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Hi Saker,
what do you think about this Russian analysis?
“Below is an overdue critique of the essentially anti-Novorossiya propaganda massively pursued by the Kremlin, its Western bedfellows and all the believers in the myth and fiction of XPP–Putin’s cunning plans, which required rather directly and plainly a suspension of critical judgment, sense of reality, ethical principles, common sense, and conscience. ”
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2015/07/russian-analysis-of-moscows-rejection.html?spref=fb
Suchan is from the Gleb Bazov/Mark Sleboda school of “Russia should invade and destroy anyone who threatens Russia or Russians anywhere they think should be run by Russia.”
They are a coterie on Twitter and blogoshpere who never get the big picture, think they have the only correct analysis and attract attention because they persist regardless of the facts.
They wanted to use the militia to sweep all of the Donbass, all of Novorossiya, all of Ukraine, all of wherever. This displayed their total amateur military analysis.
And Putin should just kick out all the Russians who have a different POV, aren’t four square in lockstep with their notions. In fact, they would kick Putin out.
And Putin is a fool. A sucker. Dupe of the West.
And Surkov is really the brains of all Putin’s policies.
And Strelkov is really the reincarnation of the greatest Russian general ever (better actually than whoever was the greatest ever).
And Mozgovoy was the greatest of the militia, if you don’t count the guys who really were the best.
I could go on and on. Suchan, Bazov, Sleboda. It’s a broken record, click clack, click clack.
Read one and you get the other.
Minsk 2? None of them understand it at all. It is far beyond their comprehension.
Oh, and they have been wrong about everything, every time.
Yet, none of them go and pick up a rifle or drive a truck or do anything but hope to send Russian boys to a war NATO is drooling to launch using proxies.
Idiots!
If you read them once, you don’t ever have to read them again. They merely reiterate their inanities.
Before that, how can one say that Putin hates Novorossiya when Novorossiya would be long gone if not for the Russian supplies? If nothing else, it is beyond obvious that a friendly land path to Crimea is a vital necessity for Russia to exert its influence anywhere west of Krasnodar in decades to come.
No complex analysis here, just a look at the map.
Ironically, had Crimea not been taken, the naysayers would have gotten their “patriotic” war! So why are they not against Russia annexing Crimea? No one can be that blind to geopolitics, so my conclusion is that they have an obvious agenda.
Haters and criticizers should start using their brains! I live in EU and I can tell you that the USA still has not left the idea that they will push us all to a war with Russia. Are you ready to fight not just against Ukraine, but against NATO, EU, USA, Canada? Our stupid politicians are now even talking about obligatory military conscriptions, because the USA is pushing for that. They want to make a cannon fodder out of people of EU. They are attempting to find any excuse of pushing us all into war with Russia. They even resuscitated the MH17 flight lie. I am dreading every day, what next terrible lie they will tell us to make it seem like another Pearl Harbor and push us to war with Russia. So please don’t help the USA to do it. This is no game for children. What the USA now needs is a huge war (perhaps even a world war) to save their economy, which is collapsing faster every day and the USA elites are getting desperate.
I think you should read the article below, so that your views are not so black and white: What Kremlin has accomplished. And the comment below that. “One day we will learn just how dangerous the world has become, how many threats and efforts have had to be thwarted and how many “moves” had to be made to secure these successes.”
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/a-short-list-of-kremlins-accomplishments.html
In terms of MH17 surely it is time for Russia to release the audio recordings on the Black Boxes to skewer the Western narrative.
What are they waiting for? Can someone enlighten me?
Who says they ever had them?
Many on this very site assured us last year that was so. Am I to believe those folks were lying?
See http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/mh17-black-boxes-handed-over-pro-russia-rebels
but also search results
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+mh17+black+boxes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb
for various rumors, stories, spin, dysinformation, etc.
I think the Guardian was being straight on this. I don’t remember posters here saying Russia ever had them.
I would add – surely you don’t think the Russians would be so stupid to hand them over without getting a copy?
Given all that had happened in Ukraine that would be beyond stupid.
The black boxes went to Netherlands. Russians never were involved. They have been excluded.
This has been a coverup of a false flag event staged by Ukraine/CIA/Israel/NATO.
The coverup includes OSCE/Netherlands/Ukraine/Australia/EU/US.
The only thing that the Russians probably did after the crash is send some experts to the site to take a close look, some digital pictures to verify what they already knew and had evidence from radar, audio intercepts, and satellite imagery.
This is the Tonkin Bay ruse all over again. It took 40 years for the CIA to confess that was total fabrication, lies and bloody false flag used to send over 2 million men into war for 12 years, killing 2 million Vietnamese, killing 58,000 Americans and proving that the American military cannot win a land war anywhere.
I would suggest instead that you in the EU stand up for yourselves.That “you” demand your regimes stop being US stooges.Its totally ridiculous to ask Russia to suffer and let her ethnic family suffer under fascism to save you from war.That is your job to save yourself.As for the conscription issue.Tell your governments you are ready to follow the US’s lead.As soon as they institute a draft you will. Politically in the US that is a “hot potato”.And a losing issue for any political candidate to suggest.Which is why it hasn’t be brought back.
Don’t worry Bianca – Kiev is educating the Ukrainian public about the Cunning One’s evil designs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLEcw_ia9tE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
U can either think your nation is supreme, or you can worship it.
Difference between a Pindo & Putin.
These are like Pindos
OK.
The Kiev Kommando Killers [KKK] shoot to the East. Does the East shoot back [as we never see any counter barrages]?
Without verifiable evidence [aka pictures/stills/video clips\ both sides can claim anything they want and these vids begin look like the Nam era body count crap and we begin to skirt the propaganda line very closely.
Locals very ‘upset’ at arrival of RF forces in Rostov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixc37CeKAkw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Just love these Ruskies :):):)
Yay! Ensign Chekov is back as the narrator!
This post suggests Kiev preparing for more war with Donbass
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/07/gearing-up-for-more-war-in-ukraine.html
I always thought from the very first that ISIS was created (and strengthened and enabled and allowed to steal huge amounts of Iraq’s military equipment) as an excuse to have airstrikes within Syria, and all for gradual steps to work towards more control over Syria’s skies and ground with the final goal of overthrowing Assad and getting a puppet government installed:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/23/report-us-may-now-launch-isis-strikes-from-within-turkey/
Turkey agrees to allow US to use air base for strikes against ISIS
The United States may now launch manned and unmanned military strikes against ISIS from inside Turkey after the government there agreed to allow Washington expanded use of a key air base, a senior defense official confirmed to Fox News Thursday.
Prior U.S. airstrikes against the Islamic State have originated from aircraft carriers in the Gulf. However, Turkey has agreed to allow the U.S. expanded use of its Incirlik Air Base, located near the Turkish-Syrian border.
The reports shows orcs amassing a large force in the south, around Mariupol. Does that mean the next major orc attack will be in that area and that they wish to lose Mariupol to the Novorussians in their next defeat?
Means that side is weak they already withdrew from the village shirokino.
Makes most sense to mass there
At least old voice is back for videos.