Lavrov press conference in Geneva after agreement with USA (with link to Kerry’s press conference)

This deal leaves the pro-Russian separatists out in the cold. Very disappointing!

All I can do is pray today. The globalist elites are clearly becoming more crazed and psychopathic with each day. They WANT war, both in E. Ukraine and in the U.S. domestically with the so-called ‘domestic terrorists’. They have clearly cowed Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and much of what passes for right wing opposition in the U.S. while radicalizing the hardcore III%er patriots even more with the BLM’s deliberate thuggery towards unarmed middle aged women at the Bundy Ranch.

http://www.infowars.com/harry-reid-calls-cliven-bundy-supporters-domestic-terrorists/
Harry Reid uses language nearly identical to Kiev junta, calls pissed off range land armed protesters at Bundy ranch in Nevada ‘domestic terrorists’, accuses them of using children as human shields (just like junta did to explain refusal of 25th Airborne to shoot civilians)

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Anonymous, Bundy is a scofflaw Sovereign Citizen type. Not only did he NEVER OWN that land, he and his family before him PAID their grazing fees until 1983 and then he just stopped, claiming in court (where he lost, twice, to Republican judges) that the US never had a clear deed from Mexico in 1848! BUNK!

More than 650 MILLION ACRES out there are Federal lands, they have never EVER been private property, never been put on the market, just leased, for maybe $1/acre. BLM was created in 1946 by combining a couple of other agencies involved in leasing those lands. He knows that, Beck and Hannity probably do too but they’re all playing on the ignorance and excitability of the American public, rightwing variant. All the fee-paying ranchers, btw, are livid with him; they know the law, have been obeying it and doing quite well with those nominal fees and really resent his nonsense.

Here’s one for John Kerry:

Proverbs 6:16-19
New International Version (NIV)

16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

DavidK

Nora,

With all due respect, Beck and the other controlled Right hosts are wrong (Beck is also in the back pocket of the Mormon church’s senior leadership which has turned that sect at a high level into a mafia, by tolerating Reid’s obvious corruption).

Watch the video here. I am not going to defend the ‘Mexico land title’ part of Bundy’s defense, he may very well have made a legally poor or incompetent case and should’ve had better counsel. But it’s obvious what’s going on here with Bundy the last of 52 ranchers who were once in the area. He is being driven out in a BLM version of eminent domain using the desert tortoise as a laughable pretext:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQb0qJLhea8

I won’t fill this thread any further with discussion of the Bundy case, except to say again it is the same elitist aggression. They want globalism and treasonous sellout deals with the ChiComs for themselves (I’m not talking about Chinese citizens buying private property, I’m talking about the bankrupt USG selling out taxpayer ‘owned’ public lands as part of America’s receivership to Beijing) while wrapping themselves in the flag when confronting Russia in a conflict over Ukraine THEY started.

Anonymous,

You’ll never find me defending oligarchs, Mormons, or Harry Reid! Otoh, we own (non-BLM) land out there and there really is a problem with over-grazing, especially in drought-y conditions. (You are aware of the incredible amounts of water needed both for our super-spy center, whatever the hell it’s called, AND for fracking, right?) And actually, I’m WAAY more worried about the Chinese (and now the Russians too since their kerfluffle w/Australia) buying up our beef than our land.

Nora, the same thing happens in Australia (which, interestingly and ironically,rhymes with ‘failure’). In western Queensland, which is drying out due to climate change, the very Rightwing state regime allowed a few belligerent graziers to put their cattle into National Parks, devastating the fragile ecosystems. This despite vociferous opposition from scientists. Done once off, the land will recover, but, as I am confident will happen, done repeatedly, it will simply further the biodiversity loss that this country is infamous for.
Another hard Right state regime has similarly allowed cattle back into alpine parks in Victoria. The cattle were removed because they were destroying the fragile bio-systems, of which we have very little, and which climate change will destroy in a few decades. The protests of scientists were contemptuously ignored. Whenever there is a contest, under capitalism, between money power and the fabric of life…well you know the rest. I fully concur with your observations re Ukraine, but I doubt that the Yankee Reich is in any mood to back off. Their aggression is that of the cornered rat or the rabid dog in the last throes of hydrophobia. It is something that they cannot and will not control.