Armenia is in a deep political crisis after losing the war in Nagorno-Karabakh and signing a peace deal with Azerbaijan. Despite Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan’s claims that “the loser is only he who thinks himself defeated,” agreeing to the peace deal was in fact the least Armenia could do to salvage a situation which was becoming more untenable for Yerevan with each passing day. In its turn, Azerbaijan, which was on the brink of capturing the largest regional city, Stepanakert, and cutting off the Lachin corridor linking Armenia with Nagorno-Karabakh, was forced to accept the de-escalation due to the intervention of Russian diplomacy and the deployment of Russian peacekeepers who are currently taking up positons in Karabakh.
How did the Armenian state manage to lose most of Nagorno-Karabakh? The order of events is here:
Back in 2018, a pro-Western coup took place in Armenia, which saw the government fall and Nikol Pashinyan, a Soros-funded ‘democratic’ activist back then, become the leader of the country through mass protests and the arresting of political opponents.
Since then, the Pashinyan government has proved one thing – they have no actual authority, as they even had to stage mass riots to attempt to enforce their political plans. The economic, political and military situation in Armenia continued to deteriorate despite the ‘democratic’ pro-Western government in power.
One area where the Soros-trained government was quite effective, however, was in spreading anti-Russian hysteria, and for two years Armenia’s main foreign and internal policy has been focused on distancing itself from Russia, which nevertheless continues to be its only real ally and the guarantor of Armenian statehood.
Through all these years, Azerbaijan was actively preparing for a military push to retake the territories of Nagorno-Karabakh, which it had lost during the Karabakh war in 1988-1994. After testing the water on a few separate occasions, the most recent of which took place in July 2020, the Azerbaijani military with support from Turkish military specialists and Turkish-backed Syrian militant groups launched a large-scale military operation in the region on September 27, 2020. The ill-prepared Armenian forces, overwhelmed in the fields of manpower, equipment and firepower, were defeated after about a month and a half of war and as of November 9, Azerbaijan had established full control of the key stronghold of Shusha, which oversees the capital of the Armenian Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (also known as Artsakh), Stepanakert.
Throughout this losing phase of the war, Armenia tried a very questionable bid at “multipolarity” looking to get help from any direction, all the while not attempting to restore its relations with Moscow.
Essentially, no significant forces, equipment or hardware were actually deployed from Armenia to fight in Nagorno-Karabakh. Whatever forces were present in Karabakh fought, with limited support from “mainland Armenia.” Also, officially, Armenia did not send any of its regular troops to fight. What was there instead of that? Livestreams of Nikol Pashinyan in Facebook and multiple PR statements claiming victorious counter-attacks by Armenian forces.
The lack of any real action was covered by a very wide and loud media campaign calling for other countries to recognize Artsakh as an independent country, hoping that it would happen and that the Armenian government would not need to do anything on its own. Ironically, while Armenia was demanding the world recognize Artsakh as an independent state, it itself as a state made zero steps in this direction. These factors led to Armenia ultimately losing the war.
The peace deal, which was a “very, very difficult decision” as per Pashinyan is a fact, and he’s now struggling to find whom to blame. He’s blaming other officials, other countries for not recognizing Artsakh as an independent country, his own military for not doing enough, and for sure the lack of support from Russia, who came to rescue the Armenians.
It is not known exactly where Pashinyan is now. He fled the government building amid protests demanding his resignation and is now mostly focused on making victorious Facebook livestreams. If patriotic forces do not take power in Armenia and the globalist-controlled government led by Pashinyan or a Pashinyan-like leader remains in power, the destruction of Armenian statehood will continue in the coming years. At some point, this process could become irreversible. As to the remaining part of Artsakh, its security is now guaranteed by the Russian military presence. Therefore, Stepanakert and nearby areas, including the Lachin corridor, just became areas of Russian influence and a further social, political and economic development of the region will not be possible without Russian involvement.
Sorry, not directly related to interesting article above..
but wasn’t for the moment, CIA Director Gina Haspel who has “done a great job” !!! also Ambassador/CIA spook creating havoc in either Baku or Armenia, a few years back!
Please clarify..thanks.
From wikipedia.. Gina is one hot cookie!! She’s ma gal!!!
Trying to get an Christmas invite with her and Hilary Clinton. Care to join me!!!!!
QUOTE…
“From 1996 to 1998, Gina Haspel served as station chief in Baku, Azerbaijan.(22 years ago…)
Her first field assignment was from 1987–1989 in Ethiopia, Central Eurasia, Turkey, followed by several assignments in Europe and Central Eurasia from 1990 to 2001.
From 2001 to 2003, her position was listed as Deputy Group Chief, Counterterrorism Center.
Between October and December 2002, Haspel was assigned to oversee a secret CIA prison in Thailand Detention Site GREEN, code-named Cat’s Eye, which housed persons suspected of involvement in Al-Qaeda. The prison was part of the US government’s “extraordinary rendition” program after the September 11 attacks, and used torture techniques such as waterboarding.
In 2005, Haspel was the chief of staff to Jose Rodriguez, Director of the National Clandestine Service. In his memoir, Rodriguez wrote that Haspel had drafted a cable in 2005 ordering the destruction of dozens of videotapes made at the black site in Thailand in response to mounting public scrutiny of the program.
After the service in Thailand, she served as an operations officer in Counterterrorism Center near Washington, DC. She later served as the CIA’s station chief in London and, in 2011, New York.
On February 2, 2017, President Trump appointed Haspel Deputy Director of the CIA,[51] a position that does not require Senate confirmation.
Republican Senator Rand Paul said he would oppose the nomination saying “To really appoint the head cheerleader for waterboarding to be head of the CIA? I mean, how could you trust somebody who did that to be in charge of the CIA? To read of her glee during the waterboarding is just absolutely appalling.”!!!
It appears Pashinyan was lying to his people about their military superiority:
https://mobile.twitter.com/NathalieSetian/status/1326594726838095872:
“They kept reassuring us that the frontline is under the control of #Artsakh defence Army SEVERAL times since the beginning of war. Even the day of, admitting having LOST after 3 hours and where our lands were signed away. ”
Unbelievable how poorly Pashinyan has played this,…however, the deal the Armenians got is still a good one, given the reality of their situation. Hopefully this will sink in once the shock from the lies they were fed by their government wears off..
My bet is Vucic will be like Pashinyan when in the future the Republic of Srpska gets overrun by her enemies.
Exactly, and Russians will again find a reason not to go to “nuclear war” :) and send statements of concern protecting international UN law :).. It is sad to see Serbs waiting for their brothers without realizing that an ordinary Russian decides nothing but to put paper in a box every four years. Maybe would more seriously to write for a help to Elvira or Kudrin and even Sreder who bombed them.
I understand your disappointment, but Russia has no debt to anybody, you Serbs included. Sorry for having to spell it so rudely. Russia historically made a lot of sacrifices on behalf of others, only to be ultimately met only with ingratitude. I could even argue that such sacrifices almost cost Russia her own existence!
What is Russia even supposed to do for Serbia and Armenia, in practical terms, as long as those nations allow obvious traitors such as Vucic and Pashinyan to govern them?
You are 100% correct. I am ashamed when Serbs complain of Russia not helping in this or that war. If there were Serbs in Serbia really caring about all of this, they should/would do something about that. Serbia either 1)supports Vucic en mass, or 2) there not enough patriotic Serbs to make any difference. In any of those cases help from anywhere would have been useless wasting of resources needed elsewhere.
If people do not want help, no help. If people who want help are to few, again any help cannot help enough. Russia wanted to help, and had been actively helping, until Vucic sent them off in very rude way. I am sure that many Serbs did not like it, but again, not enough critical mass to produce a leader necessary for taking the country back, if it ever belonged to people
Let’s say Putin removes Vucuc for us? Then what? We cut each others throat cause we cannot elect a leader. Leaders are born, not elected. Obviously it is not Serbia’s time to produce a leader, so others will give us leaders.
As long as Serbs do not help themselves, we deserve no help.
Exactly. And let our friend meditate on the significance of Vucic sitting on a “strapontin” in Trump’s office like a misbehaving schoolboy called to the headmaster for a scolding.
Then said schoolboy seen scratching his foolish head as Trump read a statement that he seemed to hear for the first time – or it had been pre-written by the Americans and then read to him, but he was so awed by the extraordinary opportunity of being in the august presence of the Big Man that nothing could register in his befuddled mind.
And what does he want Putin to do for Serbia while such a one runs the country – who does not know where the good of Serbia lies, and can’t even represent it with a minimum of dignity?
You’re exaggerating. Vucic is their medal man. How many times were they visiting Vucic just before the elections to give him support so there would be no revolt due to the pipe business with “partners”. You know what the Serbs say for international politics of Russia and Greece …… poor is the one defend by the Russians or feed by Greeks.
Nothing, you are right. I write sarcastically. It can’t do anything “concrete” because it is not allowed. That’s the whole truth besides his cheering.
And what exactly is responsibility of the Serbs?
Whining about Russia not been prepared to come and save us from ourselvs?
There is a saying in Serbian: “помози себи и Бог ће ти помоћи” (“help yourself and God will help you too”).
Yeah its Putins fault.
Come on…..Three palms below. Where do you write from, where do you live? Are you ready to die tomorrow for Kosmet or “heroicly to knock on the keyboard from a safe distance”.The only thing the Russians have to do, and they don’t (except for the buckets they send in agreement with their medail-man Vucic to fool the people), is to give us a “effective” weapons. If they respect as they say every legaly elected government. The same goes for Syrians, Iranians and others. Which will be paid, a way will be found. And don’t worry about the rest of what will happen. Especially not for the souls of Serbs. But somehow, they can not…….they are part of international SBUN building donated by Rockfeller.
Why is there no Russian army base in Serbia? Because of Vucic. Why don’t Serbia give a semi-diplomatic status (which is normal to do) to a Russian humanitarian organization in Serbia? Because of Vucic.
Serbia cannot join the EU without Nato membership as pointed out in the Nato partnership agreement with Serbia which mentions the EU dozens of times, the EU and Nato are interlinked.
Vucic betrayed Russia in Washington ( on paper) with the agreement he signed with Trump
Vucic likes to pretend to sit on two chairs as a show for the local audience but in reality his goal is Nato and the EU. Vucic would even formally recognize Kosovo if it was not for the death threats he received from Serbs.
Vucic sacked Dacic, the minister of foreign affairs and Russia’s man. Putin’s planned visit to Sebia is not going through so isn’t Lavrov’s planned visit.
Djole, Russia doesn’t owe anyone anything, but to it’s self. Armenia betrayed Russia with pro western policy. Armenia did nothing to help their brothers in Nagorno, didn’t recognise them as an independent, but no, Russia should have done all this instead?! Bollocks!
Ego fanaticism and an authoritative cult of personality are present in all Serbian nations in the Balkans. Serbs are bigger Russians than Russians, Croats are bigger Catholics than the Pope and Bosniaks are bigger Turks than Turks. I remember Putin when he withdrew troops from Kosovo and offered the Americans to be part of NATO. It is also part of the tactics of a great strategist.
Djole, If Serbia had offered Russia to have a military base in Serbia, Russia would not have withdrawn from Kosovo where Kfor (Nato) was officially “invited” and legally had a right to a military presence and a base according to the peace agreement with Serbia.
Djole, Vucic is not “their” (Russia’s) guy, Vucic is a con man, he conned the Russians and Serbians pretending to be pro-Russian, in reality he is Nato’s guy. Vucic is a coward, he is scared to offer the Russians to have a military base in Serbia. How can Russia give protection if Vucic refuses? It does not work without a military base.
Pashinyan betrayed the Russians, wanted to have the Russian base removed so Armenia could join Nato and the EU and yet the Russians still saved the Armenians in NK from physical annihillation.
….. If Serbia had offered Russia to have a military base in Serbia, Russia would not have withdrawn from Kosovo …..
what you write is not true.
Putin withdrew his army because he did not want to have further problems in addition to the existing ones, he wanted good relations with Westerners. Nothing to do with Djindjic or any Serb politicant. Furthermore, from when the Superpower asks a small country if it wants something or not? We are waiting for them for years now, the same as Chinese…..but although they are part of SBUN and can open base when they want( like US or EU), nothing happens. they rather twist reality with our DB international and take shelter behind some story of “fire station”. A force with 7,500 nuclear warheads??? To keep the fans entertained. Since when do Russians become nice with gentleman manners? Simply at a given moment, when such a policy suits them. The problem is that Serbs, like Armenians as a periphery are target for deep subterfuge with the West. So, in both cases the enemy was dealing with the periphery while Russia was getting stronger. Is that so or we were buying more time for a “transitional business people”? The man has no problem with that, just ask yourself how long this lasts. Stalin created a machine in a couple of years. Putin has been dragging Russia through the transition for twenty years, but today, apart from indulging in business, this man does not point any advantage on the ground. From my point of view. Only now will the Armenians angry with the Russians, want to join NATO and wait until the Anglo-Americans reject Turkey in their future plans. And instead of Turkey on the borders Russia will have the EU and Anglo-Americans. Turkey is not sovereign either, but a protectorate of City and Damneh Masonic society.
Pashinyan betrayed the Russians……Milosevic did not betray them, but did exactly what the Russians demanded and what is difference?.How about that it suits them what happened, corresponds to the affairs on the ground, and they do not care to much about the Armenians. Especially the ones in NK. The same as they don’t care about the Serbs from the RSK, they have never mentioned them later but rather stay in prety good relations with the Croats. Balance of power politics. There is no “holy Russia” there.
Djole RS Krajina was betrayed from Serbia same as Nagorno from Armenia.
Russia did nothing, as has not done nothing to defend Slavic interests on Balkan 100 years ago. We celebrate 100 years of Rapal treaty with grimm taste as we lost Trst, Gorica and half of Triglav then…and Russian foregin minister then said that Russian army would not fight for Slovenija-Jugoslavija for a half of one day.
Our last partizans who fought on Srem front were disgusted to see ustase from Stalingrad returned to Jugoslavija to kill Serbian children again(on russian tanks)..but karma is more than interests, money, pride, honour, more than Vatican, Zagreb, London,Moskva…everything will be balanced sooner or later. We are waiting you mother Russia…with love!
River Soca on and towards Linz. Vienna is even today state in a state, UN center on a hold. However for such wet dreams you need Nationalist and an Orthodox who does not dance at weddings. Would be interesting to see what EU citizens say about uranium from the first hand. They told Serbs that it is healthy and do not cause health problems. I believe Israel will push a button, others only serve a purpose. Check a Bernard Lewis Princton map.
Forgive and despise personal enemies, enemies of the fatherland wipe out.
Uroš Šušterič would be soglasen with your last statement commrade. He said he would be happy with at least 10 km border with Serbia ;)
Harsh assessment for an Armenian but accurate. Based on the situation on the battlefield, Armenia got a better deal than warranted all due to Turkish respect for Russian power. As Armenians we have to look within, correct our mistakes and correct out course. No one is at fault. Russia did more than they had to even at this moment. The current administration is a disaster. We need an Armenian Putin or an Armenian Xi. Instead we get weak, naive, or corrupt leadership. The #1 goal is to repair relationship with Russia, with gratitude and humility.. In return for guaranteeing Armenia’s survival as a nation, we need to be grateful and listen to their advice. We need to move away from the West, who say nice things but never act in our interests. We need to improve relationship with Iran. We need to re-evaluate our relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan and see what Russia thinks. We always look at what other countries have not done for us, but the better question is what have we done for them, and to focus on the good that other countries like Russia are actually doing, not what they have not. I agree that without repairing the relationship with Russia, Armenia has no future and no security. Without Russian military base, Turkey would overrun Armenia in 1 week. The West would put out a statement condemning Turkey and life would go on for the West.
The President today seems to find quite a few reasons to berate the army……from lack of motivation in parts to poor strategy….and there seems to be a feeling by some that too much was held in reserve……..anyways…lots “happening” re peoples -government….ultimatums…arrests……..
This was wan’t lost in 45 days but for the past 26 years. They didn’t fortify the region and build up defenses. We built schools, churches, and cultural centers over there but not the military aspect. There was massive corruption. We have 100,000 protesting in Yerevan and in Los Angeles with thousands of young healthy men but leave the poor on the front line with no equipment. I heard a rumor there were Armenians in high command in Yerevan who sold the location of the air defense systems to Azerbaijan for the sum of $40 Million dollars. Not sure if that last part is true. Too much was held in reserve and the Artsakh army had no chance against Azerbaijan, a country of 10 million. Armenia did not send its troops to help, for unclear reasons. Removed. Please stick to facts not speculations. Mod. They only sent volunteer regimens to Artsakh which was not enough. Lots of lies from the start including the chance of victory without support of the main forces. Naivete, incompetence, weakness, and diplomatic blunders. We have to accept, learn, and fix our own problems.
Thanks for the ” report.”…you seem to be on the ground there….hope you do more.
Really, some countries have it rough. How can a head of state berate his army in such circumstances? Doesn’t he realise he’s the commander-in-chief and thus responsible for the army’s performance, and should blame himself instead of when that performance is poor?
This fellow is just a cheap trickster, and one hopes the Armenians have learnt their lesson and will not so easily fall for Sorosian and other demonic propaganda next time…
This was a very sober analysis. Yet I keep hearing many voices who yet again accuse Russia of betrayal – what was Russia supposed to do, exactly? Perhaps allow to be manipulated and dragged in yet another small war (or rather another theater of the same one) which is exactly what the Imperialists want?
I fully agree with the position expressed multiple times on this site, that Russia owes nothing to anybody except its own citizens. And the hotheads who expect Russia to be everybody’s savior are just mirror images of those who believe in Russiagate and similar nonsense.
The protests in armenia are against the Russian arranged cease fire and calling for pashinyan’s ouster for signing on to that Russian arranged truce.
These protesters are not Russian friendlies, as this report seems to promote, but those aligned with escalating the conflict, as per zionazi-nazi orders.
The pashinyan zio-quisling is what he is, but the zpc/nwo want the fighting to continue. This is obviously behind the protests against the ceasefire agreement in armenia.
Things are no so clear cut. Apparently one of Soros’ Open Society outfits in Yerevan has been looted and trashed. Maybe other actors are working under cover of the chaos?
https://rusvesna.su/news/1605068947
Maybe the solution is to send those protesters to the front line where they can continue the good fight. I know who they would be calling for to come and help them and it wouldn’t be Soros.
Clarification. The recent flare up by israeli friendly regimes in both armenia and azerbaijan is zpc/nwo buggery to create further zionazi-gay orchestrated strife in Russia’s near abroad. The zionazi-nazi-gay interest here is not about whether armenia azerbaijan prevail, but about creating disruption and chaos, which the things will then take advantage of.
The Russians stopped this, the israelis are frustrated once again. Expect zionazi-gay trolling up the ying yang now. Oops, already in progess here….
Israel was also interested in opening a northern front against Iran, presumably via ISIS proxies. My guess is that pro-Azerbaijani Iranians would be encouraged to stir up trouble. All of this would have required Iran to split its forces, making an attack against the ‘nuclear’ infrastructure somewhat easier. I suspect the Israelis would rather have the US do the heavy lifting, and lo and behold, a Democrat is deemed to be The New President(TM). The Democrats do love some serious kinetic action. They also have to up the ante on what Trump has done for Israel, and what left is there to do?
Then Trump sticks his ground rather than caving as expected. No wonder there are wails of anguish.
See the last sentence of my previous 6:10 comment.
Interesting development is that Trump sacked the minister of Defense, he was rumored to be in Erdogan’s pockets. Perhaps the Americans encouraged the Turks to “help” Azerbaidjan join Nato by solving their territorial integrity?
Russia, Turkey Sign Memorandum on Creation of Joint Centre to Control Ceasefire in Karabakh
https://sputniknews.com/world/202011111081132496-russia-turkey-sign-memorandum-on-creation-of-joint-centre-to-control-ceasefire-in-karabakh/
“The joint centre will be located on the territory of Azerbaijan. It will collect, summarise and check information on the observance of the ceasefire regime.
“Following the talks, a memorandum was signed to establish a joint centre to control the ceasefire and all hostilities in the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict”, the ministry said.
He noted that “the decision to create a joint monitoring center will allow reliable control over the parties’ compliance with the ceasefire regime and will form a solid basis for resolving the long-standing conflict”.
The centre will become the body to deal with any complaints, questions, or concerns related to violations of the agreements.”
Sorry israelis, but you lost. Again.
Why has the Azeris allowed Turkey to act like they run Azerbaijan?
Aliyev needs to be careful that his country doesn’t become radicalised like Turkey?
Turkey has territorial ambitions – they are in a whole section of Georgia as well.
Does this “memorandum” means effectively Turkey controls actions of the Azeri side? so they don’t fight?
Aliyev need to protect his sovereignty!
P.S. How many countries has Russia helped and then the country turns and spits at Russia.
-Bulgaria – south stream
-Hungary- nuclear energy plant
-Greece and Cyprus voting for Continued sanctions against Russia – well done Orthodox brothers
-Greece – accepting the fake Ukrainian church
-Serbia – Vuvic humiliated by Trump yet finds his voice only to insult Russia and Maria Zakarova for pointing out his fact.
-And last but not least Armenia – why put a statue up to Nazi : ban Russian schools etc
And this is just in the last 5/6 years
Yet they all think Russia should fight a war against Turkey and Azerbaijan???
I listened to the Duran on YouTube one Cypriot and one Greek – saying how Putin has lost it blah blah blah.
That Russia should have entered the war blah blah
The casual way they talk of sacrificing Russian lives just to prove a point -is nothing short of disgusting.
All of the countries in the EU could bring down Turkeys shaky economy via sanctions if they disagree with Erdogan and Turkey so much …. yet it is Russia who is the target of hate and sanctions by all of the EU.
Turkey gets tacit approval for their actions as they are acting to provoke Russia this suits the EU and the USA
Finally – Putins job description is to defend Russia’s interests. He has done so
Dear James, you listed Hungary as helped by Russia and turned and spit – for the nuclear power plant. You may be less familiar with Hungarian issues but bold enough to assert. First Hungary has never been helped by Russia, quite the opposite (I can give you lessons on that, starting by the 1848 revolution against Austrian occupation in which Hungarians were the victor, only to be beaten militarily by Russia for the request of the Austrian ceasar to the Russain czar. pffff).
Second, the nuclear power plant is being realized, its a cornerstone of Hungarian energy strategy, going to be realized unless sorosites take over Hungary (unlikely).
Third, Hungary actually nurtures a quite good relationship with Russia, not by love or by slavic brotherhood (we are not slavs anyway, if that counts anything – see Ukies, Poles, etc.), but by sharing similar vision of politics, desired future and sovereignity (of which Russians were never a big friend during the history if not theirs). Of course its true only for the Orban government and main street, sorosite opposition wants obviously otherwise. Still Hungary is and remains both geographically where it is, in the German sphere of interest and can try to resist American policies but can afford only slightly more resistance than what Germany does. V4 is a counterweight even to Germany, the geopolitical knot is that Poles as main power in it are rabid Russophobes – for good reasons – and even if Russia has learnt the lesson the hard way how not to behave in the neighborhood, still their relationship with the Poles and with Europe in general is still to be solved. I hope in the prevail of the sovereignity bloc in the EU, which will help a lot, but thats still a fierce fight for the future of the EU. If Germany will find its will and sovereignity in a post Merkel reality, Poles will be forced to accomodate when Germany will finally make the deal with Russia. Hungarians will be partners. America even started to overthrow the Orban governement by colour revolution during the Obama season for not toing their line.
Thank you for not posting bullshit.
Hunguy,
This is an interesting post.
Thanks.
Katherine
I would like to add, nothing Russia does is altruistic. Everything James2 listed are business interests. Russian companies and The State actors monetarily profit from these deals. Therefore, there is no Slavic brotherhood. It’s only business.
The world has changed. It’s all about the money. Everything else is noise.
Cheers,
Crazyczar
Let me dissent. Money is maximum tertiary, as it represents purchasing power. Kinetic power can take whatever at will, no money needed (thugs). But power if used improper hurts own interests on the long term (thug state actors – like nazi germany, sovietunion, usa). It takes for a while until it yields the results, depending on the extent of impropriety. Nazis destroyed themselves in 7 years, soviets destroyed themselves in 70 years. The less destructive the abuse of power is, the longer it can go.
As for Russia, their – and of everyone – the supreme goal is survival. Russian leadership knows very well that it can be achieved on the long term only if the play their cards very well. No margin for serious blunders. Even so, the trajectories are not beneficial, the ultimate goal can not be achieved without cooperation with other powers. So Russia is destined to play the cooperative strategy after the confrontational way failed. Or else. Thats why now Russia cooperates with all who is willing and capable. Thats about money too, but not primarily. Btw money is needed for development anyway.
Hunguy,
Your last sentence says it all. He who has the gold makes the rules.
All the best,
Crazyczar
And Russians could be keeping a close eye on the Turkish presence and sponsored militants too….one hopes.