Intro by The Saker: I am extremely fortunate to have readers all over our planet, and I am even more fortunate that these readers often correspondent with me and share with me their views of what is happening in their side of the world. I often ask them to write an article for me, but a lot of them shy away because English is not their mother-tongue (neither is it mine) or because they are not “professional” journalists. I always tell them not to worry about their level of English as it is almost always much, much, better than the ability of most readers and/or commentators to speak my contacts’ native language anyway :-) As for being “professionals”, we know that nowadays the vast majority of journalists are only “professionals” in the sense of “professional working girls” (albeit one could argue that with the latter you at least know what you are getting, which is not at all the case with the former). In my experience I will always prefer a passionate “amateur” to a “professional” journalist/reporter. There are still exceptions (say, Seymour Hersh, Gareth Porter or Glenn Greenwald), but they have become extremely rare. I am deeply grateful to my Vietnamese correspondent (who wishes to remain anonymous) for not being deterred and I encourage all of you reading my words here to emulate his example and send me your articles: if you are passionate about the topic then it will be a real success!
What Wrong With Vietnam Today?
by A Vietnamese Reader for The Saker Blog
Dear Saker readers,
I decide to tell you guy about how my country, Vietnam, lost its direction, and Vietnam future is really unclear. What I say right now is the mixing of my personal opinion, and my researches on the history of Vietnam so I could be wrong (I am in fact I hope I’m wrong).
During the 90s, despite the fact that Soviet was fallen, Vietnam was still maintain the friendship with Russia, and Vietnam was successful normalize relationship with the USA. Vietnam still maintained its neutral position until 2008, Barack Obama was elected to become USA President. When Obama became president, Vietnamese suddenly was impressed on the US how democracy US is during the time, and they even believed that US was changed slowly because it had a first black US President. Bizarrely, Vietnamese, that including me of course, began to believed Hollywood propaganda about how brave US soldiers is. Vietnamese don’t even know that US soldiers is not brave or strong like the Hollywood version, and most of US soldiers don’t even fight for patriotism reasons. However, during the Obama first term, Vietnamese government, despite the fact how corrupted it is, they still successful maintained their neutral position in the world.
In 2013 (I think so), there are two factions was born in the Vietnamese Government, pro-US faction and pro-China faction. Two factions, in fact, was received fund or bribed from the two governments, USA and China. However, pro-US always won pro-China because Vietnamese people had good impressed on US due to the propaganda of Hollywood, and bias viewpoint on US from their relatives who live in US, mainly in California and New York. In 2013, Vietnamese government had begun suspect that China had some plan in the South China Sea, so they decided to invite US come to South China Sea for help. When the Neo-Nazi Ukraine began attack Novorossia, and Russia, and then MH17 was shot down, most of Vietnamese Newspapers, especially the Vnexpress, began write many anti-Russian news during that time. When China boat or ship began ramming Vietnamese fisher and coastguard in South China Sea, Vietnam government began to ask US army for their help in 2014.
During 2016, US election, pro-US faction had shown their ignorant, greedy natures when they begin to pride Hillary Clinton such as angel and saint. Most of the Vietnamese Newspapers attack Donald Trump, and supported Hillary Clinton in many stupid ways by copying the content from CNN, BBC, etc. without critical thinking skills. Let me tell you guys some main reasons why Vietnamese both in Vietnamese and overseas want Hillary Clinton win:
1. She is woman (LOL).
2. She made fear monger that Donald Trump will kick out immigrant out US no matter legal or not legal.
3. She had visited Vietnam in 2007.
4. They believe that Donald Trump is mean or racist (LOL).
5. They believe that Hillary will protect Vietnam from China.
After Donald Trump win, we already know that US power in South China Sea was really weak due to Trump incompetent and passive policy. In fact, I try to explain some of my fellow Vietnamese that the reasons US want to have military cooperate with Vietnam because Vietnamese Army, until now, is the only army in the Asia that have experience to fight China, and Vietnamese army is the only one can stop China Army, and USA Army doesn’t any experience to fight the country that have ability to protect themselves like Vietnam, China, and Russia.
In 2019 until now, despite the fact that the US military still maintain relationship with Vietnamese Army, pro-US faction is really weak in Vietnamese government right now, and pro-China is growing strong one by one. In 2017, when I have vacation in Da Nang, I asked local around here about the Chinese restaurants, and I found out that most of the Chinese restaurant are surround the Vietnamese Military Base especially the Air force one, and they restaurant make the oversee ability from the base to beach or anywhere weaker, and the government don’t do anything to stop them thank to the pro-China faction.
Sinophobia in Vietnam is, in my opinion, is the big issue that Vietnamese doesn’t even admit or are crazy proud about it. Today, blaming Chinese is the thing that Vietnamese are usually do to “save the face.” Vietnamese, in general, are really stubborn like a rock, and they don’t have or they just lack of self-awareness on their flawless. For example, the high speed train ray that connect from north to south project in Vietnam are destroying Vietnam economy one by one, because it has Chinese funds so Vietnamese blame China for this but this is the fall of the corrupted Vietnamese directors who don’t know how to use the money that they had been funded. By the way, to get more ideas about how idiot Vietnamese are, I suggest you guys read “What’s Really Behind Anti-China Protests in Vietnam?” in Journal-Neo.
About the Vietnam-Russia relationship, I cannot tell you guy how good or bad on the relationship between two countries especially when Vietnamese media always threw Russia under the bus during 2014-2016. However, according to “Deputy Defense Minister Visit Spotlights Russia-Vietnam Military Ties” from The Diplomat, Vietnam and Russia are still have good relationship on military cooperate. However, I, as an Vietnamese, suggest that Russia should not trust Vietnam right now because Vietnamese Government is too corrupted and degenerated, and pro-US faction is still strong in Vietnamese media, and pro-China is too strong in Vietnamese Government.
Vietnam also have some secret relationship with Israel. This is what I really fear about this especially Vietnamese from top to low don’t understand what Jews think about the Goy. Israel, in fact, work with Vietnam on defense and agriculture technology to Vietnam for some reason I really don’t know or understand what Israeli want with Vietnam. I also have some acquaintances who have relatives that work for General Department of Military Intelligence (Vietnam) or Tổng Cục 2, they tell me that MOSSAD really respect Department of Military Intelligence (Vietnam). However, when I tell them that MOSSAD just respect Tổng Cục 2 like respect the dog or any kind of useful animal due to their Talmud ideology, they just call me paranoid.
This is just all what wrong with Vietnam today, and Vietnam future is really unclear right now. I hope the information can help you guys understand more about Vietnam. I also love to receive and review feedback from you guys.
I am surprised that there is a pro-China faction given the long history of China trying to conquer Vietnam. America has a lot of internal issues, while the generals and Admirals are bellicose, the military is decaying due to incompetent organization, political correctness, and corruption.
Not a thousandth as amazing as that there are Vietnamese who are well disposed to the USA. Remind me, how many million Vietnamese did the Chinese murder within living memory? And how did the Chinese do their level best to destroy all Vietnam’s forests and crops?
I don’t think that the Chinese made much of an effort to ‘conquer’ Vietnam, save under the Yuan ie Mongol dynasty, and the Vietnamese sent them packing. And there would be no united Vietnam today if not for the aid that China and the Soviet gave Vietnam when it was attacked, in the usual genocidal, fashion, by the USA, the puppet ‘South’ Vietnames regime and South Korea, Austfailia and sundry other Imperial boot-lickers,
Having spent some 30+ years living here in Asia, I can say that “Chinese” are everywhere and they be the owners, I don’t care you say Vietnam, Malay, Singapore, Laos,… anywhere you go if you find wealth, or a BIG building, or a sucessful biz, you will find old Chinese money. Often going back generations.
You will also find “Chabad House”, almost everywhere in SE Asia ( well except Malaysia ), I find it funny, I’ll stop open the gate when I see the sign, then dozens of giants guys fresh out of the “French Foreign Legion”, give me the 1,000 yard stare, I wait for service at a table, then they I ask why u here, “I think about saying I’m Mossad, or a Rabbi” but they know not :)
The MOSSAD/CHABAD is a club, and your NOT in it, – George Carlin
Let’s remember the Pentagon Papers, lets remember that SHELL found vast oil reserves in the “Sea of China”, let’s remember that this was always a NEO-CON/LIB job to take-over all OIL in SE ASIA.
It’s also remember that the USA murdered millions of people all over SE-ASIA in relentless bombing. For this oil on the behalf of Israel proxy kissinger and other professional mossad killers
Like IRAN, you will find hold-overs to USA all over USA, but they were “SHAH” people lifted out, but most Iranian’s I meet hate the USA.
Like Vietnam in USA, most, and I should all I meet are 100% pro USA, but these too were the traitors that supported their country being occupied by USA.
When I’m with real nationalistic local Vietamese, they have nothing good to say about USA.
WRT to Hollywood, sure kids like it, and kids like Facebook too, and ice-cream.
Lastly, the biggest thing here is the author loves the WITCH from HELL, Mr dTrumpf maybe a MORON, but he’s not a Natural BORN Killer, the fact that this author loves the witch is telling.
I find that most Vietnamese are/were enamored with OBAMA, “The first USA black prez”, but I have never seen anybody in SE-ASIA, or Vietnam tell me they like the witch.
Please calm down, and read again what I write so you will see that I don’t love the “WITCH.” :p
Nobody on earth loves the Witch, if they’re human.
Obama was the “First black USA prez”, there was much hope, but nobody had a clue about his history, that his father was INDOnesian CIA, that he was groomed for the roll, that his grandma was a MOSSAD banker, which makes Obama Tribe.
Nobody has ever heard of dTrumpf, from what I can see he is ‘persona non grata’
Probably real question here is WHO IS the Witch? She is old blue-blood money, which is why Bill married her,
Bill is more interesting, his father was Winthrop Rockefeller GOV of Arkansas, out back of ARK white-house, old Winthrop kept a trailer of whore, one of which was Viginia-Kelly, mother of Bill; Winthrop took a liking to Bill and got him at Rhodes Scholarship, and the rest is history. Along the way Bill met Carrol Quigley ( Chief historian for CIA), and Carrol showed Bill the way, who to meet&greet, where to get the money
Thus the witch&her bastard are just employees of Rockefeller Foundation, doing the good work of the Tribe.
Dear Vietnamese Reader (and now, author),
Thank you for the personal report on Vietnam.
I live in a community on the West Coast that is the primary ‘home’ for Vietnamese. Best neighbors anyone could have. People of great energy, work ethic, love of education, and smart business people.
They tell me the same story about Vietnamese government. Hanoi is totally corrupt. The Communists are stuffing money in their pockets and getting away with it. Unlike China which has prosecuted officials, Vietnam has yet to begin reforming.
The US would love to use the Vietnamese military as a proxy to fight its battles with China, particularly in the South China Sea where oil, gas and fish are the prizes for the winner.
There is one nation which plays a large role with the Vietnamese military and that is Russia. I think the chances of any war again between China and Vietnam is made very remote because of Russia’s diplomatic and military liaison role to mitigate the conflict.
We appreciate this SitRep. I am sure you have more to relate to us. Please do so in the future and in your comments on relevant topics.
“Hanoi is totally corrupt. The Communists are stuffing money in their pockets and getting away with it. Unlike China which has prosecuted officials, Vietnam has yet to begin reforming.”
The issue here from my limited understanding of their history is their history. Corruption was part of life. Another super corrupt country in their neighborhood is Cambodia. It turns out it was that way for centuries. Old habit dies hard if they ever die at all.
I was in Saigon not long ago and near Uncle Ho’s statue (to the left of his left hand) you will find the most expensive brands of fashion from Paris locating themselves in that innocent looking 6 story building complex (probable from French colonial times). Uncle Ho didn’t fight to bring those shops to Vietnam but there they are draining money from the super rich Vietnamese.
Agree with you about this.
The word I get from Vietnam is that they are nationalists. Period. If the USA messes with them everyone will be united to defend their land and culture. And the same against China. I think that this article is too either/or in its presentation.
And the basic fact is that the Vietnamese military buys Russian. Also, the Vietnamese Communist Party has no where near the total control of its society as does the CCP.
As for lack of corruption in the CCP ? And illusions about its benevolence??? Please, don’t make me get banned by the moderator here!!!
That’s my experience as well, first and last the Vietnamese are nationalists, maybe there are tiny elites that care about the global thing but most just want to get on with taking care of their own. They might even see Thailand as their competitor on a regional basis than anyone else. As an aside, Lao P D R still sends it’s young Communist Party cadres to Hanoi for training.
The CCP hardly has ‘total control’ over its people. You can criticise anything but the ruling leadership, even local Party figures, and there are tens of thousands of popular demonstrations every year. You just aren’t allowed to work for foreign enemies and call for the overthrow of the State. As for ‘benevolence’, ending dire poverty, educating the people, emancipating women for the first time in Chinese history, improving public provision of all the decencies of life, and creating a real cultural renaissance, sounds OK to me.
Back in the 1980’s while living in Shanghai, a cop raped a women near where I lived, there were a few witnesses, that afternoon, the cop was taken behind the police station and shot in the head.
Now imagine if JUST-US was that swift in the USA police state? Where cops can rape or trade on parking tickets forever, and the judges 100 back the cops.
CCP is trying, much more than I can say about the USA.
The courts ( 1950’s decision in LA ) in the USA have officially ruled that the only purpose of the police is to protect government property ( & lives of the rich (((TRIBE))) )
Thanks Saker and Vietnamese Reader for the wonderful piece! Much appreciated :)
I broadly agree with all your points
but I don’t think its alarming (yet? hopefull never)
With the current situation in Vietnam, I would put it down as “cultural-influence”
Yes all the points you listed on the Vietnam gov is true and other foreign forces inflitration
but I don’t think Vietnam can stand-alone in the HUGE unstoppable wave or BRI
and USSA is going into visible ‘damage control’ if not worse…
The entire ASEAN is signed up w BRI – Vietnam cannot afford to go alone
or else it will get the Taiwan-treatment
Again I am not saying this is right or wrong but just what I see as most likely ‘reality’
Also, China is increasingly moving lots of their factory to Vietnam
There’s your sign of ‘freindship’ :)
At the end of the day, Vietnamese ppl are great business man (and woman) too!
Your ppl drive a hard bargain!!!
The Vietnamese friends I have are mostly middle class w slightly higher pay or have their own business
Daily life is just business as usual in Asia-style
So at this stage, I won’t worry about anything :)
I would REALLY REALLY REALLY worry if there is a color-revolution pull in Vietnam
The whole region will shake
and USSA will find out very soon how things are done in the east
But having said that, Vietnam desperately need a new generation of leaders, new thinkers, that can break of from the old ‘tradition’
which by the way is the same ‘problem’ in each and all the Asean country.
Vietnam may have to re-define if it want to stay as a communist country
or try something like China – a blend of few ideologies
Or something like the new reinvented Russia
pls do be safe :)
I agree with you what you say except the part:
“Also, China is increasingly moving lots of their factory to Vietnam.”
Since the 90s, Vietnam, possible were bribe by the first world country in the Asia, had imported ton of waste every year until 2019:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vietnam-waste/vietnam-to-limit-waste-imports-as-shipments-build-up-at-ports-idUSKBN1KG0KL
In my conclusion, China move factories to Vietnam because they want to low the polluted as much as they can not because friendship, we know that there is no recycle technology, the whole recycle thing is scam, and Vietnamese corrupted officials receive money from China and let their people die by the polluted factories (I blame Vietnamese corrupted ones, not China of course).
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
HA :D VR you are right and a true local! :)
That’s what the narrative spun in the west… the actual event is almost totally different!
Yes you are right… but I think you agree too its a double edge sword…
On one hand we have the problem you highlight there
On the other hand, ppl or kids – uneducated kid got a job, some for the first time ever in their life,
and I would guess, it would be higher than the Vietnam pay scale,
and they get paid in Yuan (if I am not mistaken) – the local get what that means.
This could be like the China-Africa model in action?
So its kinda … well… hard.
Also notice too China (currently) still stick strictly on their non-interference policy.
But I am NOT worried that much atm.
Like I mention, I think this is ‘progress’ in the Vietnamese ppl dialogue ‘what does it mean to be a Vietnamese?’
There was a campaign launch in Singapore some time back – “what does it mean to be Singaporean?” and the result was astonishing – they dont know what it means to be Singaporean – ie they have no distinctive culture of their own. Yes they are rich and safest city on earth, but their ppl are just ‘Shadows’, be it a happy one. Its not bad thing but in the longer run, say a thousand year history time frame, such model will 1000% fail.
So it is here too – What does it mean to be USA-er?
Here I put it down as ‘cultural influence’ and I think the Vietnamese ppl are strong – you are off the block of a great ancient civilisation – Never forget that!
Peace I leave with you, VR.
And be patient with your ppl, send them more love and they might listen to you more :)
Thank you Vietnamese Reader for your writing. Don’t worry about the English – we understand it and that is all that matters.
Yes, we do get news of the corruption, but I understand (I don’t know rightly or wrongly) that this corruption was inculcated and encouraged even as the US left the country. They kept their contacts and they are meddling up to today .. like in many other countries.
Otherwise all I know is that Vietnam is a growing economy. Is this true for the normal person? Or only for a few? How strong is the concept of communism? Is the country more socialist, communist or capitalist. Those would be fascinating to read through your eyes. With the trade war, many big business is seeking alternatives in Vietnam, but it is also reported that Vietnam is not yet able to bring full supply-chain to big business.
I would like for you to keep us updated and again, thank-you for this writing. Who do you think will win the hearts and minds of the people :-)
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Dear Vietnamese Reader for The Saker Blog … This website is truly fortunate to have readers and contributors like yourself. I’m sure I speak for many when I say how grateful I am to be able to read the insights you provide into an area of the world geographically remote from where I write, but whose people have long proven an invaluable source of inspiration to those in the unequal struggle between on the one hand, the Talmudic and Sabbat Goyim puppeteers of the Anglo-Zionist nemesis, (not excluding Uncle Sam : I’m pulling my punches and being generous in using this epithet when so many less charitable expressions so easily spring to mind !) and so many oppressed nations around the globe. Even if you must remain anonymous – possibly for personal safety reasons – please do keep your countrymen and women briefed on what you have so ably summarized here. It may not always appear obvious, but all things considered, there really is a light at the end of the tunnel, so be of good heart. All the best … TMWNS
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«… The study of social groups, of their way of they are constructed, of the links that structure them, allowed those who want to control crowds, to act on their members, to modify their behavior, or even to destroy them as individuals and groups, the one dependent on the other. Because the individual disconnected from any group, hierarchy, representation, or “stereotype” can only survive by developing psychotic symptoms. By attacking natural links, oedipal links of male/female differentiation, but also of the parents/children hierarchy, by abolishing the notion of limits, whose subjugation in psychology is called perversion, the whole society is under attack. Deconstructed, made malleable – we speak of a “liquid” society – it will then become the plaything of a small oligarchy that will have nothing to fear from people whose souls it has appropriated…».. Born in 1972, Lucien Cerise has a training in the humanities and social sciences, with a specialization in language and epistemology. Coming late to politics, he understood in the 2005 referendum that the issue of national sovereignty was essential. Taking his thoughts further, he is interested in the concepts of borders and limits, both in the political field and in the psychological, ethical and behavioural fields. Neuro-pirates – Thoughts on Social Engineering https://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/neuro-pirates-reflexions-sur-l-ingenierie-sociale.
The central attainment of ‘liberal democracy’, and the one that keeps the parasites in total control, is the mass indoctrination, or brainwashing, system. The average Western drone is bombarded from birth by a fakestream media propaganda system without any discernible variety of opinion. Capitalism is a given, and, as we see with the ecological Holocaust, a good drone can more imagine the end of Life on Earth, than the end of capitalism. This brainwashing is consolidated by the education system, the advertising Moloch, that amoral manipulator of emotions and psychologies, which breeds feelings of personal dissatisfaction and inadequacy in order to feast of them. PR, think-tanks and the ‘entertainment’ business. They all preach greed, egomania, suspicion of others, the ‘virtues’ of belligerence, self-assertion, consumption and competition, and the insufferability of socialism, collective action, personal frugality and sundry outrages like pacifism, veganism and non-violence.
The societies created by this brainwashing speak for themselves. The term ‘dystopian’, hardly does them justice. And ‘non-sustainable’ for good measure. And let’s not forget ‘neoplastic’, in recognition of their infinite insatiability, soon to ‘hit the wall’.
Dear Vietnamese Reader, I am touched by your letter. At New Years Eve 1972 my friends and I were running around in our neighbourhood shouting “Victory for the NFL!”. End of April 1975 our dream came true! On this background it is really shocking to learn that the victors forgot everything. I mean, forgiving is not forgetting. I recommend the following about this subject:
Neoliberalism and “The Vietnam Model”. Who Won the Vietnam War?
After a couple of million deaths chemical weapons used on Vietnam and other South East Asian Countries,there should be no such thing as a pro US faction,who are these people?they must be new blood as the old guard die off,wonder what that great Vietnamese General Giap would make of it?
It’s the propaganda – Western media and other forms of propaganda. Soul-killing.
Dear Vietnamese Reader, please keep informing us, and keep working to open the eyes of your fellow countrymen.
Is it possible that no one teaches the country about the war against the US, so that the people are so easily brainwashed by this poisonous propaganda that has slowly devitalised the Vietnamese people?
I am an American living in Vietnam over 20 years and speaking Vietnamese at home (not a typical expat). I would like to add three insights to the many interesting viewpoints expresaed in this discussion:
(1) Attitudes towards foreigners: Why Vietnamese don’t hate Americans, or French, or Khmer, is very simple and very practical. In the past foreigners came to fight, so the Vietnamese fought (and won). Now foreigners come to do business or have fun, so the Vietnamese do business or have fun. Many peoples in the world would benefit from this wonderful Vietnamese trait of letting by-gones be by-gones.
(2) Foreign influence. Actually the Vietnamese government has done a good job of balancing competing foreign influences to maintain hard-earned Vietnamese independence. I don’t see any one foreign power being strong enough to buy off enough leaders to betray their national independence. Rather, government leaders play foreigners off against each other and profit from it.
(3) Corruption. Yes corruption is rampant, but nowhere near the scale of corruption in the West. Whereas in the West corruption is monopolized by the elites and the political class, in Vietnam it is more widely distributed. So, for example, citizens must pay off police and businessmen must bribe authorities, but the middle class doesn’t have to transfer most of their wealth to large banks through quantitative easing.
Thank you for your sharing. I am really happy when you find many things positive about my country.
1. Completely agree with you about this (I may be bias, of course).
2. Unfortunately, this is just right before 2013.
3. If corruption is still be limited like the time before 2013, I am confident to say that Vietnam life is happier than Western. However, corruption today is not stop only on government and police, it is also spread like infection to many workplaces like hospital, schools, market, etc.
I also hope I’m wrong but I afraid that I’m right about 2 and 3.
Best regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
Thanks, Vietnamese Reader. Nice to exchange views with you. You are correct we all hate the corruption here. My family recently bought land, built a house, put two kids in the local school, etc. We dealt with corruption, but I still say its not half as bad as corruption in the USA.Every Vietnamese is aware of thw corruption here, but most Americans don’t realize that high-level corruption is behind income inequality, extortionary medical and education costs, high incarceration rates. etc etc. That was my point.
“(3) Corruption. Yes corruption is rampant, but nowhere near the scale of corruption in the West. Whereas in the West corruption is monopolized by the elites and the political class,”
Many people have a very hard time grasping this. Unless a person does the research themselves there is little hope in convincing them that corruption is alive and doing very well in the West.
Why do Asians and the rest have to let by-gone be by-gone? So white colonialists can kill as many as they want then after a few decades we just let it go and forget about it? It’s been happening for 250 years across the globe with the West constantly attacking countries after one another. Its very easy for white people to tell the rest to forget. If that happened the other way around you’d hear no end to it. Just look at all the games and popular culture depicting the Nazis. I believe there will be a day when Asia is rich enough to start producing games, media and music that depicts the struggles they went through. They have enough material to fill countless stories. Let start with the My Lai massacre!
“who are these people?they must be new blood as the old guard die off,wonder what that great Vietnamese General Giap would make of it?”
personally, i think these ppl are the same aparachiks/bureaucrats of the former s vietnamese govt that was more aligned w the us, than the n vietnamese. even w the full unification of the country, the s vietnamese still have an internal hatred of their n’ern brethrens. why? cos they were corrupted and had worked and benefitted financially w the us that once they lost that connection they were treated not as well as before, if not treated as traitors to their countrymen. hence, when the reforms came, it was more of the s’erners that were more biz oriented and entrepreneurial (besides their level of education was higher than the n) that the majority of the economic growth is located in the s. this also lead to certain jealousies that has cos’ed a split w in the govt between the pro-us/pro-china camps. if you look carefully, the n is more pro-china, while the s is pro-us. hence the author’s talk about the split w in his country.
so to answer you, these people was always there. tho the old guard left, their children and families in the west has helped their pro-us stances…
In every society there are scum-the greedy, xenophobic, violent, arrogant. This type are always attracted to the American Model, of insatiable greed, boundless egomania, love of violence and hatred of others. Other innocents are brainwashed into a self-destructive stupour.
Mein guter Herrn, G. von Kafkainen;
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. I am totally in line ad sympathize with Your 1972-1975 moods and ego, but also ask to be allowed to take the opportunity to differ as to who and what won which victories or who “won” the war in Viêt Nam: And first of all, remember there’s a difference between ‘victory'(Sieg),’to win'(wInnen) and especially who ‘gains the most’ in the longer aftermath of a conflict(was nutzt das wem).
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1: The destruction of the original Front for National Liberation (Frot de liberation nationale) in the southern half of Viêt Nam by the Roman Catholic-dominated tyrants there and the system og massacres and asassinations carried out under the leadership of North American “advisers” meant that the struggle had to rely on the Northern armies under the leadership of the Communist Party ruling in Hà Nội. This lead to a system of dominance that was skewed in favor of the potentially potentatic elements of the Army and in the Party and openesd up for financial, economic and political corruption — including openness for being bribed from abroad powers and interests. Thus a partial victory against the Vietnamese people.
2: The terrible loss of lives, the destruction of nature and ecology and poisoning, sickness and birth defects for many generations into the future shows the world what the Yankee tyrants are willing to do in their struggle for “full power dominance” of the whole world. Hence serving as a warning to all those national freedom struggles and social justice rebellions and socialist movements going on in “The third World” in the post-WW2 age. A victory for bullying as a weapon against justice.
3: After the devastasion of Viêt Nam and the rest of former French colonies (Laos and Kampuchea), outher half-friendly-to-their-cause State and semi-private actors such as Sweden and Norway and many semi-private do-good groups there started helping those lands by sending assistance consisting of funding, experts and dogs to clear up areas contaminated by US of North America’s land mines and chemical warfare poisons. Free of charge when of course they should demand that the North Americans (and maybe their allies) must pay for gathering up their lethal leftovers. Thus, they lead the neutral do-gooders to act as if the war was just like any other natural catastrophy and not wilful destruction carried out by Washington D.C., the Pentagon and Langley, Virginia.
4. The crime cartel’s inheritors: Where I have lived in Europe and West Asia throughout the last four decennia (in seven very different countries), the criminal elements among the local Vietnamese diaspora are not direct committers of crimes, but rather in acting as fences (receivers, handlers, and resellers of stolen goods). A set-up or sat-ups?
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A very big ‘thank You!’ to Vietnamese Reader for the exposé and for valuable references to background readings on the Internet!
Thanks very much for your article! You are very severe with your country and with some of your colleagues. Of course, I respect your experiences. My impression is that Vietnam performs not so badly. This is a dynamical region with many new questions. Some kind of laboratory for mankind. So, solutions cannot be found on the first try.
Hi Vietnamese reader!
Thanks for this info, very helpfull. On top of this you inspired me to to make a translation of the first 5 minutes of what I consider a watershed interview with our Dutch former chief of combined forces that I posted in the movable feast cafe of the 1st of this month so thanks for giving me that push to do so!
Do you know Larouche pac? Their vision is basically the road and belt initiative added with space (what the Chinese aim for now as well). Truely amazing. So sad that vision for humanity was destroyed and
mr Larouche was imprisoned while aiming for presendency in the 80s.
Really, in short the human question is, if you ask me, the question if we continue this distopian future like the collapse of Rome or go into space. Even if you do doubt that it will bring any profit, it is still a win since no weapons are produced that will kill eventually.
Can you imagine a world where humanity would be united to become a space faring species? Would it waste tons of money, sure, but at least it would be spend on things other then killing, that is a plus. Helium 3, super mega (and not an understatement) is super rare here, plenty on the moon. I was a doom thinker a long time but since I seen bright lights of hope for humanity, yes, we need to promote that as well. Ah well, rambeling off, thanks for reading.
Regards,
Hugo
I really don’t know anything about the Larouche pac but I will take a look in my free time. Thank you for sharing about this.
About Humanity unite thing, I afraid that people around the war cannot unite right now because people don’t equal to each other on the culture and ideology, and history has proved this. May be in the future about more than 1,000 years, people humanity will be united, I think so.
Best regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
Welcome VR! Thanks for your report. Don’t worry, your English is perfectly understandable. No errors worth worrying about. Please keep contributing. It’s exactly the sort of person-to-person viewpoint which the West’s lamestream propaganda media never give us.
Thanks again for your report, friend! :)
Absolutely. Passionate amateurs way better than “professionals” who get paid. Paid stenographers is what they are. But I am reluctant to call the passionate ones amateurs, as I think professionalism implies a level of reporting that excludes stenography.
Dear Vietnamese Reader
In reply to your comment from yesterday /russia-china-and-the-european-peninsula/#comment-716869
I can only say that from my experience people always think the pasture is always greener on the other side of the fence. Sadly however, this still doesn’t help me to understand the deaths of so many Vietnamese in a refrigerated truck? Sure there is ‘brainwashing of the populace’ and ‘inferior complex’ but I got to tell you the stories I hear in my home town here in Western Canada the Vancouver area is puzzling. In fact imagine just today in our lunchroom I overhead Frank tell Bill about a guy he worked with from the Philippines here in Canada. He made 2300.00 hundred a month and said for half that amount I could live for a whole year in Philippines quite well. 2300.00 a month here however will just get you by really.
What gets me however, is the number of British who are leaving England. I worked with an expat Brit and he said to me two things the “smart ones leave England” and the “queen should retire” lol!
I run into more and more expat Brits here in Canada and I always say hi and then ask if it is true the smart ones leave? they just look at me with a knowing smile. One guy we just hired in fact I had to have a conversation with him and he said to me did you here about that guy who got knifed etc etc and how worried he is for his sister who thankfully is farther north?
England is a land that is fast no longer a country for English people but for every race under the sun? This population replacement that is going on is a dreadful thing and the website Occidental Observer spends a considerable amount of time on the subject.
jobs and money, jobs and money in the end that is what always matters and what gets me about this to is why are so many good jobs going to immigrants while those born and raised and are tied to their country are left out? I if one can believe it can’t even afford to live in the place I grew up? Further to this I have a dear friend from India in fact who sacrificed terribly to make a life for his family here. He works in shipping in an managerial role and told me how to make it work in this country after university he worked 7 days a week for a full seven years and then another 3 years 6 days a week. He has a lovely family and lives in a home worth 1.2 million dollars of which I wouldn’t give you 500,000. for it! He is a great friend and is still in debt terribly and wonders about his retirement how is he going to make it work? He doesn’t know? That my friend is Canada and why moreover we have so many homeless here. Imagine this to in the news just car insurance is a staggering $6300.00 a year for a new 18 year old driver! I a 60 year old pay 2000. a year?
Vietnam can’t be any worse and why a young girl died while on the phone with her family on the other side of the world after paying an enormous sun of money will leave me asking questions for quite some time? Tell them stay home and never ever go to England. Even Carney our former central banker when he moved to London to take over a similar job he couldn’t find or afford a home in London? A millionaire with no place to go? lol would love to know how he manages?
Hi, milan
Thank for sharing the story, it help me understand about what wrong with Canada today.
Well, about the girl, I can only explain in the simple way that Vietnamese truly don’t understand what happen right now in Western society so they just keep the “free land dream.” Right now is the Second Cold War, I am in fact hear some acquaintance who are merchants working at the border between Vietnam and China tell me that China are building very high border wall between Vietnam and China, and they tell me just look like Vietnam and China are prepare to war to each other. I truly don’t know or understand the border wall thing can be proof to prove that the war is coming but Vietnam Government never talk about and they hide the information. In my own conclusion, the 30 Vietnamese who died in truck and the girl try to immigrate illegally because they afraid war is coming so they try to escape the war or their life in Vietnam may be too pressure on bribery, corrupt, etc. Take note that patriotism spirit of Vietnamese today are very weak, Vietnam have mandatory conscript for the age from 18 to 26 yrs and being conscript to Vietnamese Army mandatory or volunteer still has same result is Nothing, and Vietnamese people know that they join the army they just serve the government not country or people so they don’t want themselves and their children be conscripted (I think so).
I hope my explain will help you understand more.
Best regard,
A Vietnamese Reader.
@ VA
8 years tp spend in mandatory Army service? I find that quite troubling and expensive. How does Vietnam pay for this? I remember visiting Israel back in the early 90’s mandatory service for them was 2 years for girls 18 -20 and three years for boys 18 to 21? This is a truly must have for their society? Vietnam however, what threats do they actually face that its populace must spend 8 years of their most productive years in military service and anyway if China decided to invade who or what is going to stop them really? The whole of south east asia is theirs for the taking if they so desired. This is all very curious and serves only in the raising of many questions?
I’m sorry, I mean age being drag to military from 18 years old to 25 years old (My bad please forgive for this) and time to serve mandatory military is about 6 months to 12 months (I heard from my friend).
Vietnam is a unique holdout of traditional farming practices, something their current politics continues to support, so despite the perceived economic weaknesses the country remains cultural strong. Perhaps Israel is keen to outsource cheap, and high quality, homegrown foodstuffs, that are most certainly free of any chemical admixtures, since traditional practices don’t necessitate them, and the industrial agricultural economics just don’t exist to make them widespread, as they tend to be everywhere else.
I really concern that Vietnamese, from top to low, really don’t know or understand Jews Talmudic Ideology. So I really suspect Israel want feed Vietnam like feed dogs so the dog can prepare to die for their master.
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/
/a-crash-course-on-the-true-causes-of-antisemitism/
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
Dear author
Thank you for your article. Please give use more sitreps like that.
I am myself Vietnamese, living in the US. I agree with you about the amazing fascination Hollywood US has on the Vietnamese in general and the youth in particular. I also think, like you seem to do, that a lot of people in Viet Nam are influenced by their relatives / friends in the Vietnamese diaspora established in the US regarding the appreciation of the US nature and actions. I witness that psychological bond between the American Việt Kiềus (Overseas Vietnamese) with the US (government, country, people, culture, etc….) is like the one of children to parents. Yes, no kidding.
From what I see, the Vietnamese regime, as super corrupt as it is, manages to balance between the great powers’ winds blowing in different directions and VN diplomacy is pretty good for a small nation. As for the relationship with China, they kind of follow the “behavior” set by our ancestors since we got independence from China in the 10th century: treat China as a suzerain. Fight the Chinese only on existential matters; and even after “victory” against them, ANY Vietnamese emperor would seek Chinese benediction and recognition of the Annam throne. And you are right that the Chinese influence is powerful in Vietnam and that is a very sensitive issue. Just a few days ago, VN authorities confiscated a Volkswagen model at an Auto Show in Saigon and the show organizer got a hefty fine because the GPS screen in that car shows the nine dash “cow tongue” line in the South China Sea, the one officially put by China and contested by Vietnam.
I am really happy to read your sitrep from inside VN.
Thanks
I am surprised that Mossad is connected with Vietnam. This was a very interesting article. As the empire pushes to keep its influence, Vietnam sits apparently fragile and conflicted with many world powers competing for a place in its future. This account relays so well how mislead every day people often are, and this is true not just in Vietnam.
To: A Vietnamese Reader for The Saker Blog
Thanks very much for your report on Vietnam from within Vietnam. For me, it was an eye opening report as I am a vietnam vet, having spent some 27 months in total there in the 1960’s.
One of my tours was spent as a “advisor” with ARVN armor units in 1964-1965 in Tuy Hua and Quang Ngai. Please do not hold that against me as i respected the vietnamese troops and officers and I believe they respected me; we were all caught up in the hysteria and propaganda of the time.
I too am truly amazed that the general dispostion toward the us seems to be favorable after the obscene destruction of your country by the LBJ/Nixon governments and the corrupted military leadership.
This certainly can be considered as a cop out but these are the obscenities that the Empire is about on a historical basis. And I, with much reluctance in this response, I admit that I was part of it.
I look forward to more of your reports.
No worry, I don’t hate American soldiers, I am really sympathy for their suffer, and I really hate US government for their psychopath.
Best regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
I rather sympathise for the millions of victims of American soldiers. than the killers themselves.
Vietnamese sympathising with American soldiers suffers from Stockholm syndrome.
Dear Vietnamese Reader,
I am a Canadian living in your country one year now. I thank your country for hosting me. The country, and its people, is very beautiful :)
Very good information to learn more about what is happening in Vietnam. Many Vietnamese I speak to know nothing about anything going on in the world.
I have one friend and she recently traveled to Hong Kong and she says “people seem very serious and worried. I don’t know why…” I tell her, very big protests in Hong Kong. 8 months now. She did not know :(
Anyhow, thank you. Keep writing my friend!
Hey Vietnamese Reader, thank you for your insightful article about the current situation in Vietnam. I would like to ask you a few questions; how do average Vietnamese nowadays feel about the US role in the Vietnam War, or as in Vietnam it’s called the Resistance War Against America? To me it’s very strange that there could be any trust of Americans after such a brutal war where 2 million Vietnamese civilians died (majority inflicted by the US).
Could it be also because of the divide in the area that used to be South Vietnam? I bet many veterans of that war are against the pro-US positions and would be more willing to side with China despite the Sino-Vietnamese War..
One more question, which governmental groups show the most pro-US positions and pro-China positions? I find it odd especially if there are any politicians in the National Assembly from the Communist Party that view the US in a positive way.
Bizarrely, Vietnamese today (I hope this is not majority) consider the US war crimes against Vietnam are the thing that cannot be avoid in the war and can be forgive. Due to the thousands conflict between China and Vietnam, and every China Dynasty want to invade Vietnam for some kind of unhealthy obsession that I cannot understand, Sinophobia is developed from self-evidence from the crime of China Dynasties again Vietnam Dynasty, the secret cooperation between China and US is China stop the Soviet supports to Vietnam in the land and US stop the Soviet supports to Vietnam in the sea during the 60s to divide Vietnam to North and South like what they had done to Korea, China invasion of Vietnam without reasons in 1979 (I heard some argument that China invaded Vietnam to punish Vietnam for invading Cambodia or stop VIetnam invade the whole East Asia but I am confident to say that the argument is absurd), Chinese supported Khmer rogue attack Vietnam during 80s, and right now China Navy harass Vietnamese fisher in the South China Sea right now have given an absolutely conclusion is China is the most dangerous country to Vietnam without considering the crime of AngloZionist to other countries around the world.
About Vietnamese Veteran, I afraid that they are lost hope to Vietnam right now due to how corrupted Vietnam is right now, and some of them are immigrate to other countries especially US or Canada.
Pro-US and Pro-China factions are pretty vague, like the mafia, sometimes against each other or sometimes working together, they have only common thing is pro-money. Current Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc can be considered pro-US and the majority of VIetnamese media is extremely pro-US right now. Truong Tan Sang and Nguyen Phu Trong can be considered pro-China too (If my memory serves me right) with other officials. However, take note that former PM Nguyen Tan Dung were also Pro-US too but he also let Chinese Companies (he was bribery by Chinese so I blame him) went inside Vietnam and looting Vietnam materials, and they don’t even hire the locals and they use Chinese worker until now. In conclusion, both pro-US and pro-China are double face, and they pro-money.
I hope my explain help you understand more about this.
Best Regard,
A Vietnamese Reader.
That does clarify it a lot, thank you once again. You’re absolutely right, at the end of the day, it’s all about pro-money. I feel bad for the veterans that fought in revenge of their families getting massacred, only to see a new corrupted Vietnam that has lobbies in support of the same imperial country that hasn’t changed a bit. Let’s hope this trend will be reversed sooner than later.
Xin Chao and Cam on for the article.
I have lived in Dong Nai for the past 3 years and remain curious about Viet Nam’s geopolitical position.
I agree that many Viets simply copy and paste their thinking from MSM and critical thinking skills are often not highly developed.
Similarly i am surprised by the huge anti Chinese feeling that is widespread in VietNam.
VietNam is a beautiful country. I am priveleged to sometimes see the Sukhois from the local san bay.
I am very surprised at this. I had my suspicion that something was going on between Vietnam and the U.S. but I didn’t realize there was a general feeling amongst the people that somehow the U.S. was now the good guy! Have they never seen the picture of the little girl, naked and running down the road with her skin falling off because of burns from napalm? What about the lingering effects of agent orange sprayed all over your country? This was not a one-off for this empire, a mistake. This is how they continue to behave all over the world. Since the 90s they have been using depleted uranium in their munition rounds. It is the gift that keeps on giving long after the military killing has ended. One country after another like a savage beast. Is this the power of propaganda that has left your people so dumbed down? Because if they were really doing a survey of history up to the present day, you don’t have to be a genius to see the habitual course of a nation. I live in the west and I don’t trust a word coming out of the mouths of many politicians in the U.S. or Britain or Israel. France is not much better, just a bunch of snakes. It appears to me the U.S. already has what they wanted from Vietnam all along. They have a military base there.
Let me ask you this: after the U.S. invasion ended, did the IMF or World Bank ever get into your country with loans?
Vietnam should have trade relations with counties that show diplomacy and are not showing aggression around the world. The U.S. has more people imprisoned per capita than any other country on earth. This system is run by the prison-industrial complex. Prisons for profit. This is not the land of the free and for any that doubt that the growing police state will soon snap them out of their lethargy.
IMF or World Bank or something like begin get into since the 2000s (I believe).
After murdering four million Vietnamese and other Indochinese, running death-squad operations like Operation Phoenix with its 50,000 victims, poisoning the country with chemical toxins in an ecocidal attack that will have consequences for centuries (the Vietnamese are lucky that depleted uranium was not yet available)and bombing the country with utter savagery, the USA imposed sanctions on Vietnam after 1975. That ANY Vietnamese would consider the USA, with its continuing record of aggression and genocide around the world, as anything but a force for absolute Evil, is beyond me. One could happily be well disposed towards individual Americans, but towards the US regime-it simply defies logic and belief.
I think about this post.
It seems that the North of Vietnam is cool, I mean culture, old building’s, proud strong people.
But the South of Vietnam, is not unlike the worst parts of the USA, people lost, aimless; Waiting for uncle-sam to return on the white-horse ( hollywood imagery); Like a fourth generation logging town USA, where everybody has been on welfare for 3-4 generations, now cooking meth, 14yr old girl push strollers carrying their own baby’s.
There is no doubt author of this post is South-Vietnam, pro-USA, team-lost; Pro Israel, Pro Hillary Clinton, aka Pro-Death, pro-Nazi, Pro-Zion, Pro-anglo-saxon MSM BS
Prior French Colony ( Zionist ), French lost power, vacuum brought in CIA-USA, they bombed everything within 2,000K radius;
Post Tet, USA air-lifted the Nazi Sympathizers to USA, those stuck in South Vietnam were re-educated, thus the dysfunction found today.
Dear Mr. Vietnam, did I miss anything?
If you read the whole thing I write, you find out that I’m not “South-Vietnam, pro-USA, team-lost; Pro Israel, Pro Hillary Clinton, aka Pro-Death, pro-Nazi, Pro-Zion, Pro-anglo-saxon MSM BS.”
I think you are right to push back a bit on what sounds to me like a know-it-all post from someone who is eager to judge others as not measuring up. The whole point of welcoming your contribution is to gain insights unavailable elsewhere. Not to judge.
All I do know for sure from my reading is that the question of loyalties during the Vietnam war was very complicated, made so partly by traditional local conditions and exacerbated by the recent presence of the Japanese conquers, the French colonials, the Catholic influence, the introduction of villagers from North Vietnam into the south, the meddling in the country of Graham Greene type characters and the CIA, the role of Communist ideology and Ho Chi Minh, etc. Into this lumber the American Green Berets and then the full-fledged US military with “support services” supplied by corporate giants such as Kellogg Brown and Root making billions of dollars off the war, all run by American “cowboy” thrashing around in traditional Vietnamese society, flush with bucks. What a brew for a small country to absorb. And then, the violence at all levels.
Judging is pointless.
Katherine
Thank you for your kind words, Ma’am,
In my opinion, I know what I say may sound arrogant, but I think the reason they angry about this because I just again something that they truly love or believe like “China will save the world” or “Vietnam is OK right now.” I mean they don’t even read the whole thing I write or try to debunk or point out the mistake of what I write at least. I’m pretty sure that if Linh Dinh from Unz Review write something about the imperialism nature of China or how corrupt Vietnam is, and I believe he will write more better and details than me, and I also believe he can point out my mistakes from my article if he read it right now, the pro-China or Pro-Vietnam government (the term I use for those Vietnamese who just trust anything government said and they don’t even notice what happen right now) will attack him viciously.
By the way, you can read more Linh Dinh article in the Unz Review. He writes so much about daily life in Vietnam and he is current in Vietnam now (I know from his articles in Unz Review).
This is another example when people write again something they believe:
https://www.unz.com/article/why-harvard-is-right-to-discriminate-against-asians/
Read the comment from Chisala article, you will see they attack him viciously because he against the believe “China or Asian in general is very innovative.”
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
Thesaker.is là trang web tôi thường đọc để theo dõi tình hình Trung Đông. Vừa rồi bạn đã đăng bài viết gửi từ Việt Nam…Quả thật đây là một bài viết rác rưởi, đăng nó lên mà không kiểm chứng chỉ làm mất uy tín của trang web này.
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Thesaker.is is a website I often read to keep track of the Middle East. You have just posted an article sent from Vietnam … Truly this is a rubbish article, posting it without checking the credibility of this site.
Nếu anh/chị cho rằng bài viết của tôi là rác rưởi, thì tôi đề nghị anh/chị viết một bài viết phản biện lại những gì tôi viết. Anh/Chị sống ở Việt Nam mà anh/chị không biết Việt Nam bây giờ suy đồi như thế nào à? Tôi còn đang mong tôi sai hoặc hoang tưởng về Việt Nam đấy.
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If you think my article is trash/rubbish, then you should a counter-argument article to response what I write. You live in Vietnam and you don’t know how corrupted Vietnam right now? I really hope I’m wrong or paranoid about Vietnam.
The prime Colour Revolution tactic these days is to accuse the targeted Government of being ‘corrupt’. Coming from the most morally and economically corrupt regime in history, and its subversive stooges, this is truly rich.
Mein guter Herrn, G. von Kafkainen;
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. I am totally in line ad sympathize with Your 1972-1975 moods and ego, but also ask to be allowed to take the opportunity to differ as to who and what won which victories or who “won” the war in Viêt Nam: And first of all, remember there’s a difference between ‘victory'(Sieg),’to win'(wInnen) and especially who ‘gains the most’ in the longer aftermath of a conflict(was nutzt das wem).
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1: The destruction of the original Front for National Liberation (Frot de liberation nationale) in the southern half of Viêt Nam by the Roman Catholic-dominated tyrants there and the system og massacres and asassinations carried out under the leadership of North American “advisers” meant that the struggle had to rely on the Northern armies under the leadership of the Communist Party ruling in Hà Nội. This lead to a system of dominance that was skewed in favor of the potentially potentatic elements of the Army and in the Party and openesd up for financial, economic and political corruption — including openness for being bribed from abroad powers and interests. Thus a partial victory against the Vietnamese people.
2: The terrible loss of lives, the destruction of nature and ecology and poisoning, sickness and birth defects for many generations into the future shows the world what the Yankee tyrants are willing to do in their struggle for “full power dominance” of the whole world. Hence serving as a warning to all those national freedom struggles and social justice rebellions and socialist movements going on in “The third World” in the post-WW2 age. A victory for bullying as a weapon against justice.
3: After the devastasion of Viêt Nam and the rest of former French colonies (Laos and Kampuchea), outher half-friendly-to-their-cause State and semi-private actors such as Sweden and Norway and many semi-private do-good groups there started helping those lands by sending assistance consisting of funding, experts and dogs to clear up areas contaminated by US of North America’s land mines and chemical warfare poisons. Free of charge when of course they should demand that the North Americans (and maybe their allies) must pay for gathering up their lethal leftovers. Thus, they lead the neutral do-gooders to act as if the war was just like any natural catastrophy and not wilful destruction carried out by Washington D.C., the Pentagon and Langley, Virgunia.
4. The crime cartel’s inheritors: Where I have lived in Europe and West Asia throughout the last four decenia (in seven very different countries), the criminal elements among the local Vietnamese diaspora are not direct comiters of crimes, but rather as stichers or busy receiving, harbouring and selling stolen goods. Has this any relevance for the Vietnamese Reader’s description of home-gown like faults in the current VN opper crusts?
I completely agree with you about 1, 2, and 3. About number 4, I will explain:
The situation in Western is really different to Vietnam so come Vietnamese criminals in Western countries to Vietnamese criminals in Vietnam is look like compare orange to apple. I will explain in the simple way that corruption things like bribery from top to low, at the work places school, hospital, police, etc. is really grow day by day. Vietnamese moral, I hope i’m wrong, is really low right know and I am confident to say that VIetnamese today is immoral than Western people at least right now. Vietnamese today can use anything to milking money at each other.
I hope my explain help you understand.
Best regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
I can just imagine a ‘Ukrainian Reader’, c. 1985, say, waxing wrath at the ‘corruption’ from top to bottom, in Ukraine, and the need to ‘free’ the Ukrainian people from their ‘Communist oppressors’, in the manner of this so-called ‘Vietnamese Reader’. The Vietnamese emigre community here in Austfailia, despite being on the whole fine citizens, contains an element of revanchist, fascist, elements, ever ready for any ‘anti-communist’ agitation, flying the banner of the death-squad puppet regime of ‘South Vietnam’ with great fervour, just like their Ukrainian comrades did during the 50s, 60s and onwards, until they got their chance to ‘liberate’ Ukraine to neo-liberal fascism and gangsterism.
BINGO Mulga,
You Get IT!
Removed. No attacking other commenters. Mod.
It’s clear with Trumps tariffs that all manufacturing is MOVING to Vietnam, so thus the BIG PUSH by USA to re-OWN Vietnam No&So, its clear that our Vietnam boy here is a patsy owned by Mossad, and mostly like breast-fed by the Hilda-Beast.
Perhaps this is the plan all along, build up manufacturing in China, move it to Vietnam ( lots of ports and ocean access ), then USA controls ASIA/SE-ASIA manufacturing and silk-road navigation of all oil to/from MENA, best of all by controlling the SeaOFChina the USA gets vast oil reserves.
The only people who support this are lovers of Zionism. The only people who buy into this “USA is helping the Vietnamese people”, are people who are getting a paycheck from uncle-scam.
Please be calm down, take a rest, and read again the whole thing so you will find out that I’m not “a patsy owned by Mossad, and mostly like breast-fed by the Hilda-Beast.”
Hi everyone,
This article just confirm what I said about that Russia should not trust Vietnam and their secret relationship with Israel:
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-here-s-who-really-attended-the-u-s-embassy-gala-in-jerusalem-1.6095501
Vietnam may make some excuses not to attend, of course, but Vietnam must had done something for Israel (like secret voting open US embassy in Jerusalem) so Israel must invite Vietnam to so their grateful of course.
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
Dear Vietnamese Reader,
Thanks for this very interesting report.
It sounds as though Vietnam, because of its strategic position in Southeast Asia, is the target of a lot of interest from powerful outside entities.
One of the most interesting facts about Vietnam is the popularity of the USA, the country that decimated Vietnam a generation ago. Of couirse at that time many Vietnamese were on the Americans’ side.
Still, after all the bombs and napalm and Agent Orange, this popularity and implied trust is really incredible.
You imply that the new close relationship stems from the positive identification of Vietnamese Americans in California.Is this because Vietnamese Americans enjoy the California lifestyle and think that California = the USA? Is it also because maybe the Vietnamese distrust China more than the USA and they count on the USA to protect Vietnam from China? if so, it seems like a stance that is fraught with dangers for Vietnam.
As for what is Mossad doing in Vietnam, wherever the USA goes is the Mossad/Israel far behind?
My gut reaction would be extreme distrust of any Israelis I see sniffing around my country. They cannot be up to any good.
Katherine
“You imply that the new close relationship stems from the positive identification of Vietnamese Americans in California.Is this because Vietnamese Americans enjoy the California lifestyle and think that California = the USA? Is it also because maybe the Vietnamese distrust China more than the USA and they count on the USA to protect Vietnam from China? if so, it seems like a stance that is fraught with dangers for Vietnam.”
Simple answers are yes.
“As for what is Mossad doing in Vietnam, wherever the USA goes is the Mossad/Israel far behind?”
I truly don’t know or understand what Israeli want to Vietnamese. Even the part:
“I also have some acquaintances who have relatives that work for General Department of Military Intelligence (Vietnam) or Tổng Cục 2, they tell me that MOSSAD really respect Department of Military Intelligence (Vietnam). However, when I tell them that MOSSAD just respect Tổng Cục 2 like respect the dog or any kind of useful animal due to their Talmud ideology, they just call me paranoid.”
is not exist, the three links:
https://thediplomat.com/2018/10/whats-in-the-new-vietnam-israel-defense-dialogue/
https://www.vir.com.vn/vietnam-israel-agricultural-co-operation-to-see-new-breakthroughs-59047.html
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-here-s-who-really-attended-the-u-s-embassy-gala-in-jerusalem-1.6095501
are the proof that good enough to prove that Vietnam must has connection with MOSSAD.
Best Regard,
A Vietnamese Readers
It takes some courage to write a passage in a second language. Cheers for the insight.
It is so good to hear directly from someone living in Vietnam who can tell us directly what is going on there. A big thank you to A Vietnamese Reader and to the Saker for this. I hope Vietnam will find a way to deal with the corruption.
Japan, where I live, is very much under US control. The CIA et al. use mostly the threat of shame to keep public officials in line. Years after Shinzo Abe got elected, right after the Fukushima disaster, the people I talk to here still don’t know what part of the Japanese public voted for him–a really huge silent majority? Or how he has lasted so much longer than Japan’s past Prime Ministers. But he implements a lot of US-friendly (neoliberal) policies, and a lot of people here are quietly suffering. Most of the young people I know live with their parents and have very poorly paying work. Very few can consider marriage. My younger students have no hopes for the future. None. The girls want to marry someone. The boys want to win the lottery. Like the States, Japan employs rose-tinted statistics that no one can believe, but there is no big left-right divide, no civil strife, and the people are very stoic.
Japan is simply horrified of China. They used to be horrified of Russia, too, and the right wing is still anti-Russian mostly because of the territorial dispute, but there is growing respect for Putin because of his sensibility and non-confrontational stance. Also it is recognized that he likes Japanese culture.
At least that is my view from a deeply rural part of Japan.
Thank you for sharing the your story about Japan! I also hear so much about many serious problems that happen Japan like hikikomori, low birth rates, elders live too long, etc. but I never think Japan is really worse like what you describe. Look like my suspection is right, the so-call Japanese experts (if I use the words correct) like Black Pigeon Speaks (A Zionism), Rachel and Jun, The Japanese Man Yuta, and Nobita from Japan etc. never describe or being honest about what truly is going in Japan right now (Japan like other Asian Countries does not have freedom of speech).
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
The Japanese are true believers in technological advancement and have outstanding achievements there. I think part of the reason for their stoicism, in addition to it being a traditional virtue, is that they see the current situation as a temporary set back and that their former prosperity will return if they are patient and give their technological wizards free reign. I happen not to share that form of optimism, and it colors my own view of the situation. You are right about it not having freedom of speech. There are tacit rules and self-censorship governing the press. There is no discussion of the downsides of technology, for example.
Chanda Chisala also debunked the myth that “Asian is the smartest race, especially Chinese and Japanese” in his article:
https://www.unz.com/article/why-harvard-is-right-to-discriminate-against-asians/
By the way, from the article below:
https://justjapanstuff.com/2017/03/07/japan-myths-high-tech-japan/
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/11/25/voices/japan-surprisingly-sensibly-endearingly-low-tech/
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/gallery-a-practical-low-tech-japan/
To be honest, I never see any co-call Japanese inventions has any practical useful in the daily life, and Japanese don’t have any product that can competitive with the US or Western products like iPhone, Nokia, etc. If I wrong, please correct me.
Best Regards,
A Vietnamese Reader.
I think the blue LED was a Japanese invention that really made a key difference in displays and is part of what made smart phones and stuff possible. I recall the individual who invented it wanted credit for it, which his company had taken. It is still a collectivist society in many ways.
But I just received this link from a relative regarding western society: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/11/07/777276474/western-individualism-may-have-roots-in-the-medieval-churchs-obsession-with-ince
And it caused me to consider how Japan has been trending since World War II, after which it has had western ideals imposed, such as monogamy and discouragement of marriage among kin, which breaks up society into nuclear families with a high degree of individualism. Each subsequent generation of the Japanese has become more and more individualistic, and I think this has contributed to the sense of hopelessness I see among the young. “Hikikomori” (shutting oneself off from society) is a well-known manifestation of this. (I think the proliferation of radiofrequency-emitting technology is another factor in hikikomori. It reportedly had a sudden onset in 1996 when digital towers went up all over Japan. Also, when my junior high school students get their first smart phone or i-pad, they become unable to focus on class work and act disruptively, even with their devices off. This has happened each year for the past four or five years, since the local junior high adopted an IT class. There is a black-out on this sort of news everywhere, not just Japan.)
Rural towns, like the one I live in, resist the sort of changes America has imposed, but the result is the children just move away as soon as they can and the town gradually dies. My town is extreme in this regard, discriminating against spouses who marry in from other towns. (As a foreigner, the bullying just goes over my head, and my husband never wanted to participate in the town’s affairs.)
BTW, thank you for the links!!
Very interesting article, thank you for sharing.
By the way, LED was in fact research since the 1907 by Captain Henry Joseph Round. So technically, the Japanese just inherited and finished his work not invent. In conclusion, without the the original research and inventor, Henry Joseph Round, the Japanese will never invented the blue LED (I’m not surprise that Japanese just invented the LED around 2000s if Henry Joseph Round was not exist).
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode (I know wikipedia is not reliable but I think the like is right).
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/history/pioneers/captain-h-j-round.php
https://www.lime-energy.com/led-history-lesson-part-1-the-led-origin-story/
The first LED from 1907 using carborundum crystals – H.J Round (youtube link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYZfjB3GKs
Best Regard,
A Vietnamese Reader.
If any of your friends forget what was done to your country BY THE US then you tell them (I am being polite) that they are not very smart. The amount of blood that was spilled to get the US out should not be forgotten and should be a warning as to what this country represents. It does not represent the little people in the US. A snake will always be a snake, a leopard even without the spots is still a leopard. The US is STILL the US of the 1960’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_conflicts_involving_the_United_States
Vietnam is not the only country where a considerable portion of the population thinks the US is on this planet to help others. Putting Obama up to be the president was one of the best con jobs that succeeded in fooling the US population and the World. It takes time to learn the truth but if you don’t you will pay like the people of Libya and Syria recently paid (there are more nations). US of the 60’s is the US of 2019.
” morticia on November 05, 2019 · at 5:08 am EST/EDT ” has the whole plot. The problem one would have in any country to explain “how it is” is that it is complicated and requires knowing some above average understanding of History. That requirement basically disqualifies 70 to 80 % of the population. The remainder don’t have it any easier because they come up against “How will this impact my XXX (career, school life, friendships …) if I say it how I see it ?”. What you will be left with will be a small percentage of people who understand BUT THEY HAVE NO POWER to effect anything. Checkmate.
Be careful Vietnam. It might be better to have your own crooks who you know than foreign ones you don’t know.
Correctly and dangerously, Vietnamese are bunch of High IQ Idiot (Term is invented by Jonathan Revusky).
http://www.unz.com/article/battling-the-matrix-and-freeing-oneself-from-the-roger-rabbit-mental-world/
https://www.unz.com/article/a-framework-for-reclaiming-reality/
I know what I say is sound arrogant or narcissistic but I afraid the people like me are the very tiny minority in Vietnam, and I, like them, don’t have any power influence in the society at least.
Best Regard,
A Vietnamese Reader.
I love Vietnamese coffee.
I never knew until I visited your country (that’s how well Western propaganda machine works) that Vietnam is a huge coffee producer. In the West we hear about Kenya, Colombia, Indonesia etc but NOT Vietnam. Now isn’t that lovely way of making your country disappear from coffee lovers consciousness.
Hmmm, it really is time I went and visited Vietnam.
On Amazon you can find this coffee.
“TRUNG NGUYEN COFFEE SANG TAO – Vietnam coffee Sang”
I think it is one of the best. My favorite is #2 which however I did not see there when Googling.
Enjoy :-)
more arrests have been made including three in Vietnam!
and imagine 39 deaths times 30,000 dollars if true is mindboggling to me
Essex lorry deaths latest: Names released of all 39 people found dead including two 15-year-old boys
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/essex-lorry-deaths-latest-names-released-of-all-39-people-found-dead-including-two-15-year-old-boys/ar-BBWvknK?ocid=spartandhp
Thank for the news!!
Well here we go finally an answer:
The same pattern is witnessed across the varying ethnic hues of mass migration, even taking into account the dead Vietnamese in Essex. In a study of Vietnamese illegal immigration to the UK and Germany, academic Trang Nguyen found that “immigration agencies and brokers that are affiliated to the Vietnamese government” have been providing logistical support to illegal Vietnamese in Europe because “illegal immigration to Europe is widely recognized by Hanoi as a welcome solution to their unemployment problem and as a source of growing remittances.” Remittances from what? The Vietnamese have rather quickly established themselves in Europe as the dominant players in the sale of illegal cigarettes (Germany) and the mass cultivation of cannabis in indoor plantations (UK). In 2012, more than 60% of UK arrests for cannabis production involved Vietnamese migrants. The title of Nguyen’s article, and his central thesis, is that this is “government-sponsored crime” in the sense that Hanoi is providing logistical support for the activities of its illegals plying these illicit trades on European soil. Nguyen continues:
They developed methods to turn networks of large houses into clandestine cannabis plantation farms (Luke, 2012). Information from Vietnamese-language online fora in the UK indicates that these houses are rented from housing agents using fraudulent or stolen identity papers. Set-up costs for an operation vary between £15,000 and £50,000 while annual profits from a single ‘grow house’ run from £200,000 to £500,000. According to interviewees and other media reports, Vietnamese-run cannabis farms are mainly located in the suburbs of London, Manchester and Birmingham.
The background of Vietnamese migrants is almost uniform. Nguyen remarks that they overwhelmingly tend to have a rural origin and low educational attainment, and have few ambitions other than finding illegal work in cigarette and cannabis manufacture (males) or in nail bars (females). Despite quasi-Romantic narratives proffered by the Left-Liberal media, these individuals do not come to Europe with visions of cultural synthesis and embracing European “values.” Rather, Europe is seen as a lucrative cash cow, to be milked for welfare or criminal proceeds. Nguyen relates how one illegal told him that “Many of them (cannabis “gardeners”) went to the UK and made a fortune, but came back not knowing a single English word. They probably did not even see the Big Ben tower.”
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/11/08/on-migrant-deaths/
I also heard the thing like that from the so-called patriotism Vietnamese blogs(They are in fact the gatekeeper on corruption of VN Government) but the link you share is more details.
Thank you so much!!
Best Regard,
A Vietnamese Reader.