Louna is in my opinion the best rock band in the world. There are four anti-fascist/anti-imperialist at : http://novorossy.ru/music/folder/louna made using Louna songs, including two set to “Storming Heavens” a rock masterpiece. Louna’s music works well as a setting for ant-fascist videos
hi anon…watched the videos…can’t speak or read Russian…I guess the second and last were to “Storming Heaven”…interesting…the build up to the Maidan, on the last (fourth) video of that link. The guys with red bands around their arms were the Right Sector ‘officials’ who knew ahead of time about the snipers and the Trade Center perhaps, as well ?
The song Штурмуя Небеса is dedicated to rebellious musicians who died young, but the lyrics adapt themselves to portraying the resistance of Novorussia readily. The band has not put out any new material in about a year or so, but have been touring. This performance from about a month ago:
Lou (vocalist) and Vit (basist) also play in another group they started at the end of the 1990s called Tracktor Bowling. This year they have been concentrating on new material with this group, which might explain why Louna hasn’t produced new material lately.
Although hard rock is no my favourite style of music, when I hear a great voice and a good message always enjoy it.
Besides, this music is a good soundtrack for the images on the hardships of war.
This is an except from the film “Небо видело всё”, which Louna did some of the soundtrack for. The music starts not right away, but a little bit into the scene. Very powerful scene. The film itself is a fictional story about Russia after a civil war breaks up the country and different factions fight against each other for control of territory. Made before the 2014 Ukrainian coup, it is surprisingly prescient about what is happening in the Ukraine. If interested, you can watch the film with English subtitles (cant find Spanish subtitles) here:
OT. I see NATO member Turkey is now attacking the Kurds in Iraq and Syria. Are they going against the US game or playing a part in the US game?
I take it the Iraqi Kurds are protecting US oilfields in Iraq.
Seems like a game changer in the area and not for the good.
The Turks attacking the Kurds now, could work against Turkey.And restart the Kurdish revolt inside Turkey itself.Definitely it should upset a great many Kurds throughout the region.If it does restart the rebellion in Turkey.Turkey might destabilize pretty quickly.Which might be a good thing for the Syrians and Iranians.I think the Turkish government is playing with fire there.
I guess in the short term it will give ISIS a bit of a boost.
I’m wondering how the MSM PR machine will spin this one. The Kurds have always been portrayed as the good guys, which they seem to be. Iraq forces portrayed as corrupt and hopeless, and Syria a brutal regime that needs destroying.
Just before turkey attacked the Kurds, Ash Carter was in Iraq running down the Iraq military and praising Kurds.
UK have also been doing a lot of PR work in the MSM just recently to try and get into the fight in Syria. This may put a dent in UK (among others) warmongering ambitions.
I think this is a “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” thing: Turkey now allows US to make use of an air base there for “bombing ISIS”, so in return, Turkey gets to do something they want to do!
I suspect the air base use by US could turn from “temporary” into “semi-permanent” !
That is a good question.I was thinking the same .Many of those injuries aren’t bad though.So many of the people return pretty quickly.Still,continuing to suffer 300’s daily isn’t a good thing for a limited military force.That is one of the reasons I oppose the idea of not striking back hard against that junta artillery.In a war of attrition those with the more numbers can survive longer.Even if the junta soldiers are, in many cases “cannon fodder”, there still are more of them.A long distance shelling game works to their advantage.
R: The KKK have tried direct confrontation a few times and got their asses kicked badly. This mindless shelling [and the silence of MSM – as if it’s the Apartheid State shelling Palestinians – oh, wait, the Ukraine is run by the same tribal members {but we can’t mention that} and supported by the same western countries…] kills sores of innocent citizens as well, but MSM goes numb and their talking heads are looking at other parts of Plato’s cave.
We don’t see many pictures of the dead and wounded NRF men and women. I think that’s wrong. We should know their names and see their faces, so we can honor them and praise them as the heroes they are, for they have paid the ultimate price for something that’s very dear to me and that’s to be a free and proud man.
It takes courage to stand up and fight against a legion of mindless killers that’s 10x bigger than ‘you.’
NRF men and women face this every day.
The only thing I have to worry about is if today’s rain will stop or not so I can put the garbage outside. Their rain is shells, mortars, GRADS and ff-ing phosphor bombs.
The west is morally guilty, but yeah, what do you expect a corrupt entity to do?
The golden calf has been parked in a nearby bank [so as not to upset a deity] and the sound of crunchy CCs has replaced the sound of rustling banknotes. Ahhhh, the banksters really care about me… [and everybody else]…
It appears fascism is rising in Sweden as well (I remember some of the nazi volunteers in Ukraine are Swedes.Blowback maybe coming soon.) In the South,the least Swedish area of the country (Malmo) 3 explosions have rocked the city in the large immigrant areas:
“Sweden is going through political period very complex and bad,” Groglopo said. “We [are witnessing] a raise of fascism and Nazism in Sweden…they are getting political power.”
That town in Southern Sweden isa hot bed of multi cultural and ethnic piece and love.
You have mass migration forced on sweden by outsiders (IMF) and as a result, the blow back of such.
Most likely it is different migrant factions against each other. That town also proudly puts Sweden on the map as the rape capital of Europe. With such behaviour encouraged by the Swedish Governent no less
With 10% unemployment and 25% youth unemployment and such a mix that is not culturally respective to each other, problems ensure.
Finland has similar unemployment stats but less migration and as a result less social violence. Not that things are good there but not as bad as Sweden. Still, the problem, real problem in Finland and around the world is growing disparity between rich and the rest of society. Growing income disparity which points to a sick socio economic system even in Northern Europe.
I saw an interesting article on Fort Russ that ties in to the Russian-NATO question:
“On the Establishment of Russian Federation Armed Forces Mobilization Reserve”
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
DECREE
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
On establishing a human mobilization reserve for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
In accordance with Federal laws from 31 May 1995 No. 61FZ “On Defense” and from 28 March 1998 “On service obligation and military service” I have resolved:
1. To establish a personnel mobilization reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (henceforth referred to as “reserve”) for the period of conducting the experiment on implementing a new system for the preparation and amassing personnel mobilization resources.
2. For official use.
3. The Government of the Russian Federation and executive agencies of Russian Federation subjects are to ensure implementing measures associated with the induction of Russian Federation citizens who have completed active military service into the reserve.
4. Financing measures associated with forming the reserve shall be done using budget allocations specified in the Federal budget of the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense.
President of the Russian Federation
V.Putin
Moscow, Kremlin
17 July 2015
No. 370
J.Hawk’ Comment: One does not issue decrees like the one above if one does not anticipate the possibility of fighting a protracted high-intensity conventional military conflict, and few of the recent developments point toward Russian government’s seriousness of intent as strongly as this one. Because ultimately the matter of who or what is deployed where in peacetime has less to do with wartime plans than with peacetime diplomacy. Measures like the establishment of a mobilization reserve, on the other hand, do more to strengthen a country’s warmaking potential than the more headline-grabbing deployments of conventional and strategic weapons.
What reasoning might be behind this move? There are two mutually complementary possibilities.
1. It’s a message to NATO which can’t very well respond in kind. Decades of economic neoliberalism have seriously damaged these countries’ sense of identity and patriotism, to the point they can only rely on small, professional, fragile “shop window” militaries.
2. It’s anticipation of far worse things to come. Let’s face it, at this point can anyone guarantee the current system of government in EU or US will be around in 10-20 years? The experience of the Great Depression shows that democracies can fall very easily and be replaced by aggressive nationalists at a drop of a hat. The growing popularity of nationalists all over Europe (Ukraine being only the most advanced example) suggests such a possibility cannot be wholly ruled out.
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And a video of, believe it or not, US military ROTC (Reserve officer training course) students marching in women’s high-heeled shoes.So they would understand how women feel I guess? I kid you not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNAXNgGTTG8
How sick of the top US Military people to do this to normal guys….but if you watched that video series of the illuminati wife whistleblower on youtube you can understand what’s going on…
part 4 the first 10 minutes gives a good synopsis of the whole series….
“Do this or we will kill your career”.
What a gift! We authoritarian perverts will turn you into a dehumanized killing machine unless you obey us now and humiliate yourselves. That is the message.
A normal healthy response of a normal healthy male would be, “Thanks very much, now take your ‘career opportunity’ and shove it. I ain’t gonna be your bitch’.
The ones who obey that order are stupid and spiritually and psychologically lost. And most of them probably obeyed.
“2. It’s anticipation of far worse things to come. Let’s face it, at this point can anyone guarantee the current system of government in EU or US will be around in 10-20 years? The experience of the Great Depression shows that democracies can fall very easily and be replaced by aggressive nationalists at a drop of a hat. The growing popularity of nationalists all over Europe (Ukraine being only the most advanced example) suggests such a possibility cannot be wholly ruled out.”
This is a very interesting remark and in my opinion Empire’s goal.
Thanks for the translation of the decree: original info that most of us would have missed.
Thank you for the video. That was illuminating. So these are famous and highly developed “Western/EU/Liberal” values that the Ukie NAZI trash are so intent on participating in? Why that makes complete sense.
I don’t think India is going to fall for the Western trap (at least one set by the British).An Indian MP (opposition party) made a speech in Britain saying Britain should pay India reparations for the colonial rule.And the Indian PM publicly approved of the speech.The British are none too happy over that.The ironic part is the lack of any historical knowledge on the part of the British public.When the British started looting India…er…I mean when they began their colonial rule there.India was a very rich country.For the age,it was far richer than Britain.It was forced over time to finance the British ” industrial revolution “.The start of that major industrialization was with textile production and sales.India had one of the worlds largest of that type of industry.The British closed it down and forced Indians to import British make textiles.Giving British industrialists the needed capital to branch off into other industries.And making Britain the first and richest industrial country of the era,all the while India’s prosperity collapsed.The British also laid countless taxes on India.And restrained any Indian industry that was in danger of competing with a British industry.Had India been free to develop their nation (all of the sub-continent).There is a strong possibility they would have progressed along the same lines as (non-European controlled) Japan was able to.
The decline of China of that time also had a lot to do with European meddling in China.The British “Opium Wars” on China being the perfect example.China was also in those days a “workshop of Asia” along with India.Chinese goods were wanted throughout the East and Europe.The British didn’t want to pay the Chinese in gold or silver for the goods.And they produced nothing the Chinese really needed.So they started sending Opium to China.As we all know its highly addictive.And many Chinese started to become addicted to it (the famous “Opium Dens” we’ve seen in movies started then).The Chinese government seeing what it was doing to their people banned the import of Opium.The British went to war against China and forced China to allow Opium imports.That was just one example of the West’s underhanded dealings with China in the age of “China’s Weakness”. The Western record in the so-called 3rd World,from the start,until today has been an abomination.
Uncle Bob–And all of that nascent Capitalism was undergirded by Slavery. Virtually none of the Capital raised by the British to finance its industry was ethical or proper, starting with Enclosure. It’s very eye-opening to read Utopia, or De optimo rei publicae deque nova insula Utopia as it was titled originally by its author Sir Thomas More in 1516. Although a fictional tale, More’s description of the conditions of British commoners being subjected to Enclosure is factual and graphic. It’s been duplicated electronically by Project Gutenberg, which is an awesome literary source, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2130/2130-h/2130-h.htm
“They do not make slaves of prisoners of war, except those that are taken in battle, nor of the sons of their slaves, nor of those of other nations: the slaves among them are only such as are condemned to that state of life for the commission of some crime, or, which is more common, such as their merchants find condemned to die in those parts to which they trade, whom they sometimes redeem at low rates, and in other places have them for nothing. They are kept at perpetual labour, and are always chained, but with this difference, that their own natives are treated much worse than others: they are considered as more profligate than the rest, and since they could not be restrained by the advantages of so excellent an education, are judged worthy of harder usage. Another sort of slaves are the poor of the neighbouring countries, who offer of their own accord to come and serve them: they treat these better, and use them in all other respects as well as their own countrymen, except their imposing more labour upon them, which is no hard task to those that have been accustomed to it; and if any of these have a mind to go back to their own country, which, indeed, falls out but seldom, as they do not force them to stay, so they do not send them away empty-handed.”””””
Well, what they describe here looks like usual capitalism, let’s say it describes modern day EU.
I wonder if it is really 500 years old.
While in pre-revolution Russia the conditions were certainly at least the same if not worse, like everywhere.
The banking system dictates the economy, the economy dictates the top 0.1%, and they rule over all the lower 99.9%.
That’s what led to the Russian Revolution. And I can tell you (as somebody who grew up in Soviet East-Berlin) : Communism, with all its flaws of implementation: It was the highest step of development of the human race.
Maybe the General-Director of a huge Kombinat had 5 times the income (rather less) than the toilet cleaners of his sawod.
Now, what is the gap in today’s “social market” capitalism???
—>> instead of 1:5 it is 1:100 Millions?? That number is probably still too small for the top 0.001%
Who never lived in a Communist country cannot know it first hand, but it was the happiest time of my life, and many folks all over Eastern Europe agree with me when I ask them personally (Bosnia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria).
p.s.: Back then neither I nor they knew how good it in fact was, many including myself were still believing western propaganda lies (RadioFreeEurope type of dirt), but now we grew smarter the tough way …
Sadly most of the people with that opinion are not the types woh organize themselves, take guns and start a revolution. Rather they work like in a mouse’s wheel, or stay at home, watch TV and become alcoholics. That’s why I have such a deep respect for the courageous men and women of DonBass, WHO FIGHT for their ideals. But as always it gets completely misrepresented by ZioFascist western media. As long as they cannot be taken offline and replaced, the world cannot be rescued. Thoughts how to accomplish this? Well, almost impossible. Because whatever happens or doesn’t happen: They will always abuse it for their benefit.
Pretty soon people who yearn for communism will be able to live in it, as it will definitely come to the West. Of course not the elites – elites always live their own special life no matter what the political regime. But the poor will get the “socializing the losses” and the elites will get “privatizing the gains” – which is communism in a nutshell.
And with all the surveillance already in the West, there won’t be long until a culture of spying on each other will develop, as it was in communism: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/east-german-domestic-surveillance-went-far-beyond-the-stasi-a-1042883.html
In Romania it was even worse, people snitched on their neighbours just for pleasure or revenge. Thousands of people went to jail and endured horrendous beatings from the Securitate (Romanian equivalent of Stasi) sometimes for nothing, just so that the goons get some exercise.
“The USSR seen almost a quarter century after its death”. by Manuel García to Blog del viejo topo.
*Includes : “10 great achievements of communism in the USSR” by blog El carburante de la historia.
*Also in references and recommendations: “The USSR a country where wages, yes, they reached”
“Lies about the Soviet Union” by Mario Sousa.
“An indispensable reflection: Damn socialism, how we miss you” by Higinio Polo.
( Note that the articles are talking about the USSR, not Romania. Communism in Romania would be another object of study, totally different and responsability of its governments and citizens ).
Hi elsi, thanks for above link and a comrade’s regards to Spain!
As for Romania: Everybody should take the hour to read this and watch the videos:
(Ceaucesco was INNOCENT of the staged “massacre” of Timisoara, it is Ukraine all over again!!!!!)
The Strategy Behind the 1989 Romanian Revolution: What Can We Learn?http://by-julietbonnay.com/2014/03/how-to-start-a-revolution/
In 2016 a quarter century of the disappearance of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is met. What follows is post about what it meant to the USSR for the Soviet people and for the people of the world.
I have not been very enthusiastic of the USSR while it existed. Today we no longer say that my opinion was the same. While about the blog The fuel of history published an entry that we remember:
10 great achievements of communism in the USSR
Source: blog The fuel of History
Published on November 29, 2012
Following tweeted a view in hastagh called #CulpaDelComunismo I have decided to write again. Today I will talk about the achievements of the Soviet Union in its 74 year history, we are used to hearing that the USSR exterminated their own people, the Berlin Wall, Prague 68, Afghanistan … and beyond These facts show us the way biased and manipulated, neither the media nor popularizers never speak of the countless achievements that got the USSR.
1 It was the first state in the history of humanity in ending hunger thanks to the collectivization of the land; many countries very advanced today (like the US) have not been able to end this scourge (or unwilling).
2nd was the state that bore the greatest burden in World War II to defeat the Nazi army ; according to military analysts, 70% of the Nazi army was defeated on the Eastern Front; some 24 million Soviets died in the greatest war in history to kill Hitler and his genocidal ideology. However, today we continue to show how the winner of the US war, thanks in part to the hegemony that Hollywood has gotten in collective thinking.
3rd The USSR led the global campaign to eradicate smallpox in the world , a disease that took millions of lives every year especially in Third World countries, in the former colonies of the capitalist states. 15 million cases of smallpox were treated in 31 countries, thus eradicating the disease. Today there is a latent danger that spread massively again. Click here for more information on the subject.
4th Soviet social security ; this point (hows the previous three) would need an entire entry; I’ll just summarize a few aspects of what was the first social security history, born of the Soviet constitution of 1936.
– Working hours of 7 hours, 6 for specialists.
– Pension system for the elderly or disabled. Retirement at age 60 (for men) at 55 for women; in hard work (mining, heavy industry …) could be lowered to 50. To receive a full pension you had to work between 20 and 25 years.
– Maternity leave from the beginning of pregnancy and one year after childbirth, some 20 months in total.
– Sick leave 100% of salary.
– A month of paid state holiday.
These are the most impressive parts of the Soviet social security, which after more than 70 years after its adoption seems unattainable for the capitalist countries.
5th The first free and universal health care system, which increased the life expectancy of the Soviets that was less than 40 years in 1917 to reach Western levels in the 80s (70). The achievements of the eradication of hunger. This medical system performed the first organ transplants.
6 The first fully free public education system , which reached the highest rates of literacy history in the 15 Soviet republics. Moreover, Soviet schools offered free food for students, so the work-family reconciliation is made much easier today in the capitalist countries. The nurseries were also free.
7 The great economic achievement that won the USSR , according to several political analysts, has been the highest economic growth in the history of humanity, make getting delayed and feudal Russia into an economic superpower, also significantly improved the lives of their citizens. Churchill immortalized the feat with his popular phrase: “He took a Russia with plows and left it equipped with atomic bomb” , referring to Stalin.
8 Space Race . A fact of special importance since managed to reach the technological level of US-and superarlo- in 40 years. Having emerged from feudalism without technological capacity, the USSR was the first country to send a satellite into space -Sputnik-, the first living creature into space -the bitch Laika-, the first man in space Yuri Gagarin- and the first woman in space Valentina Tereshkova-. However in the collective imagination it has been that we won this race the Americans, being the first to reach the moon.
9th Popular Culture . The USSR was the country where the culture reached its highest levels of expression. The USSR was the country where most newspapers were read and sold, where more books sold (also the cheapest), the country where concerts were held. It was a country where the masses of workers went to the opera, where most theaters, cinemas and cultural buildings existed.
10th Got that women had the same rights as men, equal pay, equal employment opportunities, the same opportunity to achieve public office … The USSR achieved full equality between men and women .
I wanted to leave it at 10, but fit many more points. Commodities, as well as light or water, were virtually free, like housing. Vehicles if that were harder to come by, but there was a public transport network covering the vast expanse of the Soviet Union in a good way, public transport in urban centers was free and of a quality unsurpassed by the West. They would also be remarkable sporting achievements of the USSR, both internally (country with the highest percentage of amateur sports) and the Olympic Games, as discussed in a previous entry. Not to mention the solidarity of the USSR colonized countries of the Third World, many of which achieved independence through Soviet aid; and solidarity with the nations attacked by fascism, as the Spanish case, where the USSR -along with Mexico was the only state to support the legitimate government against fascism.
It should be added that also served in the West, in capitalist countries, levels of welfare for people is reached for fear of the Soviet system. The best test is to see what has happened since the USSR disappeared .
About the quality of life in the USSR, circulating an informative post on the Web that has collected information on wages and prices in the Soviet Union, which gives a general idea of the social and economic conditions of the Soviets. It is available by clicking on this link: ” The USSR a country where salaries if they reached ” . The wording and the way the information has been collected is somewhat fuzzy, but provides an idea of how in the 80’s basic needs were amply covered.
My purpose is to draw attention in a country long overdue, having supported four wars in eight years on its territory, with the consequence of destruction and victims, reaching an economy out of capitalism, very rapid progress achieved in forty years to put the USSR between the two most advanced countries were achieved, besides defeat the Nazis in another war largely developed in their territory. Naturally, this development had a human cost and can plead objections to some liberties, but we often forget that capitalist development has had and has a human and cost much more important freedoms.
Finally, one of the myths of anti- They have to do with the “victims” are attributed to Soviet communism, and they would go from 100 to 300 million people. It is a fact based on a random quantification and also includes victims of five wars. In addition you can also put the victims of capitalism in the twentieth century, or the wars of religion and the Inquisition promoted by Christianity 2000 years. How this anti imaginary drawing a gruesome scene in the Soviet past was reached making? About this suggest reading this “Lies on the Soviet Union” , Mario Sousa (by clicking on the link you can download the pdf job). Sousa looks at who were the authors of this development, step by step dismantling the myth.
I recognized from the start what was going to happen in the West after the fall of the USSR.Without a fear of the people turning Communist. The elites wouldn’t even throw the people the “bones” that they did in those days.They know the people have nowhere to turn.So they removed their masks of caring about their own people.And we’ve see the decline of living standards throughout the West (for the working,poor,and middle-class) since then.Its not an accident that in the ex-USSR countries Western polls show 60+% of the people in those countries say life was better during the USSR.They see what has happened to themselves and their neighbors under the new “democratic” governments.
Because only few (only the most informed ones) understand, that the end of the CCCP was not only the end of fair easy stable happy living conditions for us in the East, but equally as much for you in the West.
Add to this increased automation, robotics, computer revolution (which has more severe impacts than the industrial revolution of the 19th century), plus then again all the new US started wars und bombed out homeless people, plus yet again the (until now) exponential growth of World population.
Plus: Add that the Fed/B.I.S./Worldbank/IMF/global Rothschild Central banks based finacial cyclus has reached pretty much its end once again, due to – well – also exponential growth (via interest-on-interest). The Fed was created in 1913. The West is D O N E.
Here alone the official foreignt debts of germany(!!!): http://www.staatsschuldenuhr.de/
I’m polite and don’t post the foreign debts of the USA …, but there really isn’t a single country (maybe Monaco?) which is not indebted to its upper nose-tip. Funnily indebted with “money” that was created by debts-creation. What a ponzi scheme. That’s why we need Lenin and Stalin again. Somebody must put the banksters into a very remote cold dark place, where they can do something useful for the first time in their “lives”.. Won’t work with friendly poems. Maybe with flowers? Mhh …
The first time I travelled through Romania was in 1988, then almost once or twice per year since 1992, just now last month again, and I have friends 50km east of Timisoara.
As for Romania: Everybody should take the hour to read this and watch the videos:
(Ceaucesco was INNOCENT of the staged “massacre” of Timisoara, it is Ukraine all over again!!!!!)
The Strategy Behind the 1989 Romanian Revolution: What Can We Learn?http://by-julietbonnay.com/2014/03/how-to-start-a-revolution/
As for spying: SeriouslY Is that a joke? Back then it was a child’s birthday compared to western spying now!
sandbox: It is the same fight against the same evil which morphs like a bad Hollywood Sci Fi flick from day to day into this or that form. I give all respects to the people of the Donbass ( as per Mark Sveboda) who are very much frustrated to be fixed to their role in the cross hairs of history. They are , to use an old word from an old paradyme, the vanguard of the struggle for the survival of the human race. But We do what we do where we are faithfully and in integrity. Just bought bumper stickers to distribute ” Sandra Bland, You will not be forgotten” . This is our fight on our front here in the belly of the beast. I will next approach to public radio station which organizes tours abroad to try to get one going to the museums and cultural sites of Russia next year. Seems tame compared to the mass antiwar demonstrations of the 1960’s and early 70’s. The women at the foot of the cross also gave moral witness and those people who bravely pulled out their cell phones to record beastly brutality gave moral witness. It is the least and sometimes the most that is to be done at a particular time and place. ( again apologies to moderators who have to sift through this to judge relevance).
It appears that some Ukrainians are asking for a visit from a Russian Spetsnaz unit.Hopefully they get it soon:
“Ukrainian border guards began shooting and inflicted injuries Russians on Russian territory ”
27 of July, 02:02
Ukrainian border guards began shooting two residents of the Rostov region, who decided to make selfi on the background of the Ukrainian checkpoint ” Red Talovka “, one of the men were injured and taken to hospital, informs the border Department of the FSB of Russia in the region.
yes Uncle Bob…the other day I saw something about Poroshenko too, that made me think…”I wonder if he will ask Russia for help against the Right Sector”….it would fit as he’s played both hands … signing the Minsk agreements etc….
I don’t know how it would work with Novorussia and Poroshenko even if he asked Russia to come in with the army, but if Russia was asked to protect the government from RS it would be legal internationally speaking and Putin is a stickler for keeping to the laws of the lands….
I think that chance was lost in February 2014.The legal government of Yanukovich could/should (did?) have asked for Russian protection during the coup.It would have changed everything.And the crisis we have today wouldn’t have happened.
RT had a very interesting op-ed piece on China today.I’ve often thought that Russia made a horrible mistake in the 1980’s and 90’s in not emulating some of China’s policies.I think had they done so Russia would have not suffered the Yeltsin years of decline:
“Collapse that never happened: China bounces back, discrediting Western analysts”
All the voices in the US media who gave alarmist predictions in the aftermath of China’s stock market plunge earlier in July should be very embarrassed. The aftermath of the market crash has proved China’s economy to be highly resilient.
Since capitalism in China is tightly controlled and not allowed to run rampant, the population is far safer from the harmful effects of market turbulence.
According to the Financial Times, 55 percent of the US public is directly invested in the stock market. The majority of these people have no choice in the matter. They are seniors whose pensions were invested by their employers, or they are employees whose salaries are tied to “stock options” or other mechanisms linking them to the New York Stock Exchange.
As a result of the stock market’s central role in US society, when the financial crash of 2008 occurred, unemployment almost immediately went up to 10.1 percent, the highest it had been since 1983. The rate of hours worked per week dropped to 33, the lowest number ever recorded. Overall, the median household net-worth dropped by 35 percent between 2005 and 2011, according to a Vox Media report. Many people in the United States are still suffering the aftereffects of the financial crash of 2008, despite the widely reported “recovery.”
What makes China different?
Analysts in the US media, probably basing their views on what they know about the US economy, made predictions of catastrophe when China’s stock market plummeted on July 8 and 9. The US press had already spent months describing the “slowdown” in the Chinese economy as proof of impending collapse, at the same time as demonizing China’s President Xi Jinping for allegedly being a “neo-Maoist.” When 1,400 companies filed for a trading halt after a 30 percent drop, the US press went into a frenzy, declaring that the seemingly invincible Chinese economy had finally been brought to its knees.
However, the results were very different than those predicted. Within a week, China’s economy was pretty much back to normal. US economists were shocked to see the country reach the goal of 7 percent quarterly growth, despite so many predictions that it would finally lag behind. China’s plans for massive construction of irrigation systems and high-speed trains were not halted. The “New Silk Road” foreign investment programs are still moving ahead.
How was it that a massive stock market crash had so little impact? How was it that China’s market could crash dramatically, yet society could just move on apparently unscathed? The answers point to realities about the Chinese economy that many Western analysts are unable to comprehend or even acknowledge.
First, only 6 percent of the Chinese population is invested in the stock market. The Chinese stock market is a small club for millionaires and billionaires. China’s industrial workforce, which make up the majority of the planet’s industrial workers, do not have their wages or salaries tied up in “stock options.” The pensions of China’s elderly people are also not at stake with market flexibility. Most of the Chinese population is fully insulated from the chaos of the beloved neoliberal “free market.”
State ownership of industry is very widespread in China. Fifty percent of the world’s crude steel is manufactured in the mostly government-owned Chinese steel industry. China’s state sector controls a great deal of banking and other centers of economic power.
Secondly, despite a huge amount of private ownership, the classic laws of the market studied by economists all over the world do not apply even in China’s vast private sector.
Usually, following a financial crash, there is widespread panic in the stock markets, with investors rapidly pulling their money out. This did not occur in China because the government refused to allow it. Immediately after the crash, the government moved swiftly into action, implementing a variety of “anti-selling measures.” The Chinese government threatened to arrest anyone who was caught short-selling. All major shareholders and directors were blocked from selling stock for six months.
Essentially, the Chinese government stepped in and prevented the natural results of a stock market crash. Corporations were prevented from doing what they would normally and naturally do under such circumstances. The Chinese government gave marching orders, forced market players to do the opposite of what they were inclined to do. The result was a rapid economic recovery that shocked the world.
Keeping the “Invisible Hand” in check
In China, capitalists are not free to invest as they choose, nor are they allowed to move money around based on what is most profitable. Corporations and assets are routinely nationalized, and wealthy capitalists have even been sentenced to death for harming the public. Last year, several employees of a Shanghai based food firm were taken away in handcuffs when it was exposed that they were supplying rotten meat to clients, including McDonald’s and other major restaurant chains.
The Chinese economy is watched over closely by a huge entity with over 88 million members: the Communist Party. It has direct control of the People’s Liberation Army, and all government officials are subject to its discipline. Most major private corporations have Communist Party officials who are assigned to watch over and monitor their activities. Sometimes these officials can be helpful to corporations. Capitalists can often utilize the government’s assistance in order to make more money, as this is in line with the party’s goal of expanding China’s Gross Domestic Product. However, the Chinese government has the ability to give direct orders to privately owned entities, forcing them to act according to the party’s wishes and against the dictates of capitalism’s much heralded “invisible hand.” China’s economy is now rebounding, with the stock market rising once again, because the Communist Party refused to allow the market to function naturally in response to the crash.
Attempts in the US press to blame the market crash on Chinese president Xi Jinping are highly disingenuous. Articles that make these arguments offer very few explanations why Xi is to blame. They merely quote broadly worded statements from market-oriented Chinese think tanks.
If anything, it was lack of regulations that caused the crisis. The Financial Times reports: “Since they were not subject to regulation, fund-matching companies permitted higher leverage and lower barriers entry.”
There is now widespread investigation into the unregulated practices of fund matching corporations in China, who may have greatly contributed to the events of July 8th and 9th.
Xi Jinping and the rising “Chinese Dream”
While Xi Jinping is hated in corporate boardrooms and on Wall Street, his actions are wildly popular with many people living on the Chinese mainland. The Economist stated: “He is now more popular than any leader since Mao.” On another occasion they described him as possessing “unusual popularity,” saying “Mr Xi has been winning hearts with a ferocious assault on corruption.”
It’s understandable why Xi’s “mass line campaign,” as well as his popularization and revival of the ideas of Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping, are refreshing to millions of Chinese people. Many have become alienated and frustrated by rising corruption over the last few decades, coinciding with the expansion of China’s market sector. With headlines such as, “To Reignite A Nation, Xi Carries Deng’s Torch”, the Chinese press portrays Xi Jinping as a champion of the founding principles of the People’s Republic, whipping China back toward building a prosperous socialist society.
China’s highly successful economic model should be studied by anyone who wants to improve the living standards of the human race. When the global capitalist economy reacted to decades of neoliberalism and experienced a horrific crash in 2008, China continued to roll ahead. As the world market reeled in the aftermath of the crash, China’s Gross Domestic Product increased by 9.6 percent in 2008. Chinese industrial production increased by 12.9 percent that year. Since 2009, the wages of Chinese industrial workers have been steadily increasing, with the rest of society keeping up with them. In 2012, the wages of Chinese private sector workers increased by 14 percent.
While the Western world is consumed by austerity debates and its new generation faces a low-wage economy, the standard of living for China is rapidly increasing.
The secret to China’s success can be found in the role of the state. A powerful government, which has its roots in the 1949 popular revolution, has the ability to keep the market under its control. In China, the “rule of the dollar” certainly exists, but it is secondary. It is the population, organized and directed by the Communist Party, which ultimately has the final say in economic matters. While capitalist investment is utilized to strengthen China’s economy, the country is spared from the difficulties associated with the market. Capitalism exists, but it is obedient and compliant, existing at the whim of a very strong government, with deep roots among the population.
As China rolls ahead, it should be clear that Xi Jinping’s “Chinese Dream” contains key economic lessons for the entire human race.
Thanks Bob. I got / get a lot of questions from overseas friends about the imminent / ongoing collapse. My answer has been “Huh? Collapse, you say?”
Neither the stock market’s rise, nor its fall made any noticeable impact on the daily economy in China.
Of far greater concern is the Govt’s re-inflation of the real estate bubble. Prices were correcting on a fairly orderly, if steep, trajectory. That correction was badly needed as real estate is grotesquely overpriced in the major cities. Its re-inflation bodes badly for the common people.
I would agree and disagree.
But that narrative builds on the (wrong!) assumption, that it was a number of “co-incidences” what happened to the Soviet Union and then Yeltsin’s Russia.
As for China’s current stocks crash: The situation at the stocks exchange is nowadays more and more disconnected from real economy. For average people that’s bad if stocks are in a bubble (and they cannot participate in the gambling) but good in situations like now. And, keep in mind: IT IS WAR – financial Terrorism plus western Information war:
So, China is by no means out of the woods yet.
And the WAR is just starting its hotter than before phase now.
Nevertheless no reason to completely shrug off that there is a problem.
A terrorist attack in Northwest India,near the Pakistani border is happening right now.Its very likely to be militants from Pakistan involved.This should throw a spanner in the improving relations between India and Pakistan (if not make them much worse).Anybody know who might hope to gain from that.My guess is the first initial is U and the last is S.
I know people are known to do stupid things in College. But sometimes those things portray the way they really are. And when you are a top (probably) level candidate for the President of the US (Republican),those things you did in College can be seen as disturbing.So lets check this one out.I wonder if he wouldn’t be more at home in the Ukrainian Radical Party:
and if you watched “Illuminati Wife Tells All” you would see that Scott Walker was posing for a “men’s only” club….that’s what’s in control of our country(s) right now. Pretty bad.
Ok, everybody is permitted to mature slowly by experiencing her/his personal learning curve. And what does this baby-“girl” know about the world?
That’s always a big problem with some(!) of such youngsters: All they know are computer games, Hollywood movies, expensive cars, luxus parfums and western media. That’s their religion.
They believe they are “soooo coooool”.
Often had this problem on MoiMir when trying to find the ideal woman many years ago.
But I guess meanwhile the mood is shifting towards the East in Russia and Serbia, even in that age group.
In the video in the 2nd link (Fight Club), what you are seeing there is footage from their DVD overlaid with audio from a CD of English language versions of their songs. In the English versions of their songs, the lyrics are written by Travis Leake, I believe an American working out of Los Angeles.
The first video, announcing their American tour is from 2013, before those “nice people” in the west began their brutilisation of the Ukraine (where the 2 members in that video, Lou and Vit, are originally from). I wonder if that war has opened their eyes about what the west is about and what the “liberals” in Russia really intend to do in Russia, should they regain power. I have not seen anything political from the members of Louna since the ZPC/NWO coup’d the Ukraine, so I don’t know if they are still drinking the “kool-aid”, or how they feel about their songs being used to support the people of Novorussia?
Yes, I found out later that they have English versions of their songs, but ironically my translation is A LOT closer to the Russian lyrics than the one they use. Not sure if they simply had a bad translator, or wanted to have a different message in English. I use “Reich” instead of “Babylon” because Biblical references don’t translate well, but the rest is very close.
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Louna is in my opinion the best rock band in the world. There are four anti-fascist/anti-imperialist at :
http://novorossy.ru/music/folder/louna made using Louna songs, including two set to “Storming Heavens” a rock masterpiece. Louna’s music works well as a setting for ant-fascist videos
hi anon…watched the videos…can’t speak or read Russian…I guess the second and last were to “Storming Heaven”…interesting…the build up to the Maidan, on the last (fourth) video of that link. The guys with red bands around their arms were the Right Sector ‘officials’ who knew ahead of time about the snipers and the Trade Center perhaps, as well ?
Anonymous
I only saw 4 videos at your kinked site.
Here is another similar:
Louna-Штурмуя небеса(Посвящение Новоросии)
And another:
Louna – Штурмуя Небеса
The song Штурмуя Небеса is dedicated to rebellious musicians who died young, but the lyrics adapt themselves to portraying the resistance of Novorussia readily. The band has not put out any new material in about a year or so, but have been touring. This performance from about a month ago:
LOUNA – НАШЕСТВИЕ 2015
Lou (vocalist) and Vit (basist) also play in another group they started at the end of the 1990s called Tracktor Bowling. This year they have been concentrating on new material with this group, which might explain why Louna hasn’t produced new material lately.
“I only saw 4 videos at your kinked site.”
Correction:
I only saw 3 videos at your linked site.
Although hard rock is no my favourite style of music, when I hear a great voice and a good message always enjoy it.
Besides, this music is a good soundtrack for the images on the hardships of war.
Great band!
Thank you for the videos and the links!
Elsi, you’re welcome. :)
Louna also has done some music that is not hard rock, such as this song (one of my favourites):
Louna – Во мне (“Небо видело всё”)
This is an except from the film “Небо видело всё”, which Louna did some of the soundtrack for. The music starts not right away, but a little bit into the scene. Very powerful scene. The film itself is a fictional story about Russia after a civil war breaks up the country and different factions fight against each other for control of territory. Made before the 2014 Ukrainian coup, it is surprisingly prescient about what is happening in the Ukraine. If interested, you can watch the film with English subtitles (cant find Spanish subtitles) here:
Sky saw everything
Also, one of my other favouite Louna songs uses this footage from this film in its music video (also not really hard rock style):
LOUNA – Карма мира / OFFICIAL VIDEO / 2011
In the video, the scenes shown outline the story of the film.
Also, the latest music video from Louna is a soft rock love song that is quite good:
LOUNA – С тобой / OFFICIAL VIDEO / 2014
OT. I see NATO member Turkey is now attacking the Kurds in Iraq and Syria. Are they going against the US game or playing a part in the US game?
I take it the Iraqi Kurds are protecting US oilfields in Iraq.
Seems like a game changer in the area and not for the good.
The Turks attacking the Kurds now, could work against Turkey.And restart the Kurdish revolt inside Turkey itself.Definitely it should upset a great many Kurds throughout the region.If it does restart the rebellion in Turkey.Turkey might destabilize pretty quickly.Which might be a good thing for the Syrians and Iranians.I think the Turkish government is playing with fire there.
I guess in the short term it will give ISIS a bit of a boost.
I’m wondering how the MSM PR machine will spin this one. The Kurds have always been portrayed as the good guys, which they seem to be. Iraq forces portrayed as corrupt and hopeless, and Syria a brutal regime that needs destroying.
Just before turkey attacked the Kurds, Ash Carter was in Iraq running down the Iraq military and praising Kurds.
UK have also been doing a lot of PR work in the MSM just recently to try and get into the fight in Syria. This may put a dent in UK (among others) warmongering ambitions.
I think this is a “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” thing: Turkey now allows US to make use of an air base there for “bombing ISIS”, so in return, Turkey gets to do something they want to do!
I suspect the air base use by US could turn from “temporary” into “semi-permanent” !
OK. An average of 20 x 300’s per day = 600 wounded per month, How long can NRF sustain numbers like that?
That is a good question.I was thinking the same .Many of those injuries aren’t bad though.So many of the people return pretty quickly.Still,continuing to suffer 300’s daily isn’t a good thing for a limited military force.That is one of the reasons I oppose the idea of not striking back hard against that junta artillery.In a war of attrition those with the more numbers can survive longer.Even if the junta soldiers are, in many cases “cannon fodder”, there still are more of them.A long distance shelling game works to their advantage.
@ Uncle Bob,
Q; a war of attrition
R: The KKK have tried direct confrontation a few times and got their asses kicked badly. This mindless shelling [and the silence of MSM – as if it’s the Apartheid State shelling Palestinians – oh, wait, the Ukraine is run by the same tribal members {but we can’t mention that} and supported by the same western countries…] kills sores of innocent citizens as well, but MSM goes numb and their talking heads are looking at other parts of Plato’s cave.
We don’t see many pictures of the dead and wounded NRF men and women. I think that’s wrong. We should know their names and see their faces, so we can honor them and praise them as the heroes they are, for they have paid the ultimate price for something that’s very dear to me and that’s to be a free and proud man.
It takes courage to stand up and fight against a legion of mindless killers that’s 10x bigger than ‘you.’
NRF men and women face this every day.
The only thing I have to worry about is if today’s rain will stop or not so I can put the garbage outside. Their rain is shells, mortars, GRADS and ff-ing phosphor bombs.
The west is morally guilty, but yeah, what do you expect a corrupt entity to do?
The golden calf has been parked in a nearby bank [so as not to upset a deity] and the sound of crunchy CCs has replaced the sound of rustling banknotes. Ahhhh, the banksters really care about me… [and everybody else]…
It appears fascism is rising in Sweden as well (I remember some of the nazi volunteers in Ukraine are Swedes.Blowback maybe coming soon.) In the South,the least Swedish area of the country (Malmo) 3 explosions have rocked the city in the large immigrant areas:
“Sweden is going through political period very complex and bad,” Groglopo said. “We [are witnessing] a raise of fascism and Nazism in Sweden…they are getting political power.”
http://www.rt.com/news/310757-sweden-malmo-blasts-crime/
Uncle Bob,
That town in Southern Sweden isa hot bed of multi cultural and ethnic piece and love.
You have mass migration forced on sweden by outsiders (IMF) and as a result, the blow back of such.
Most likely it is different migrant factions against each other. That town also proudly puts Sweden on the map as the rape capital of Europe. With such behaviour encouraged by the Swedish Governent no less
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMsAMQaous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMsAMQaous
With 10% unemployment and 25% youth unemployment and such a mix that is not culturally respective to each other, problems ensure.
Finland has similar unemployment stats but less migration and as a result less social violence. Not that things are good there but not as bad as Sweden. Still, the problem, real problem in Finland and around the world is growing disparity between rich and the rest of society. Growing income disparity which points to a sick socio economic system even in Northern Europe.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/pockets_of_poverty_springing_up_in_finland_report_warns/8182327
http://yle.fi/uutiset/hs_pay_of_top_execs_soars_to_record_high/8181029
I saw an interesting article on Fort Russ that ties in to the Russian-NATO question:
“On the Establishment of Russian Federation Armed Forces Mobilization Reserve”
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
DECREE
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
On establishing a human mobilization reserve for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
In accordance with Federal laws from 31 May 1995 No. 61FZ “On Defense” and from 28 March 1998 “On service obligation and military service” I have resolved:
1. To establish a personnel mobilization reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (henceforth referred to as “reserve”) for the period of conducting the experiment on implementing a new system for the preparation and amassing personnel mobilization resources.
2. For official use.
3. The Government of the Russian Federation and executive agencies of Russian Federation subjects are to ensure implementing measures associated with the induction of Russian Federation citizens who have completed active military service into the reserve.
4. Financing measures associated with forming the reserve shall be done using budget allocations specified in the Federal budget of the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense.
President of the Russian Federation
V.Putin
Moscow, Kremlin
17 July 2015
No. 370
J.Hawk’ Comment: One does not issue decrees like the one above if one does not anticipate the possibility of fighting a protracted high-intensity conventional military conflict, and few of the recent developments point toward Russian government’s seriousness of intent as strongly as this one. Because ultimately the matter of who or what is deployed where in peacetime has less to do with wartime plans than with peacetime diplomacy. Measures like the establishment of a mobilization reserve, on the other hand, do more to strengthen a country’s warmaking potential than the more headline-grabbing deployments of conventional and strategic weapons.
What reasoning might be behind this move? There are two mutually complementary possibilities.
1. It’s a message to NATO which can’t very well respond in kind. Decades of economic neoliberalism have seriously damaged these countries’ sense of identity and patriotism, to the point they can only rely on small, professional, fragile “shop window” militaries.
2. It’s anticipation of far worse things to come. Let’s face it, at this point can anyone guarantee the current system of government in EU or US will be around in 10-20 years? The experience of the Great Depression shows that democracies can fall very easily and be replaced by aggressive nationalists at a drop of a hat. The growing popularity of nationalists all over Europe (Ukraine being only the most advanced example) suggests such a possibility cannot be wholly ruled out.
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And a video of, believe it or not, US military ROTC (Reserve officer training course) students marching in women’s high-heeled shoes.So they would understand how women feel I guess? I kid you not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNAXNgGTTG8
How sick of the top US Military people to do this to normal guys….but if you watched that video series of the illuminati wife whistleblower on youtube you can understand what’s going on…
part 4 the first 10 minutes gives a good synopsis of the whole series….
“Do this or we will kill your career”.
What a gift! We authoritarian perverts will turn you into a dehumanized killing machine unless you obey us now and humiliate yourselves. That is the message.
A normal healthy response of a normal healthy male would be, “Thanks very much, now take your ‘career opportunity’ and shove it. I ain’t gonna be your bitch’.
The ones who obey that order are stupid and spiritually and psychologically lost. And most of them probably obeyed.
“2. It’s anticipation of far worse things to come. Let’s face it, at this point can anyone guarantee the current system of government in EU or US will be around in 10-20 years? The experience of the Great Depression shows that democracies can fall very easily and be replaced by aggressive nationalists at a drop of a hat. The growing popularity of nationalists all over Europe (Ukraine being only the most advanced example) suggests such a possibility cannot be wholly ruled out.”
This is a very interesting remark and in my opinion Empire’s goal.
@Uncle Bob1
Thanks for the translation of the decree: original info that most of us would have missed.
Thank you for the video. That was illuminating. So these are famous and highly developed “Western/EU/Liberal” values that the Ukie NAZI trash are so intent on participating in? Why that makes complete sense.
I don’t think India is going to fall for the Western trap (at least one set by the British).An Indian MP (opposition party) made a speech in Britain saying Britain should pay India reparations for the colonial rule.And the Indian PM publicly approved of the speech.The British are none too happy over that.The ironic part is the lack of any historical knowledge on the part of the British public.When the British started looting India…er…I mean when they began their colonial rule there.India was a very rich country.For the age,it was far richer than Britain.It was forced over time to finance the British ” industrial revolution “.The start of that major industrialization was with textile production and sales.India had one of the worlds largest of that type of industry.The British closed it down and forced Indians to import British make textiles.Giving British industrialists the needed capital to branch off into other industries.And making Britain the first and richest industrial country of the era,all the while India’s prosperity collapsed.The British also laid countless taxes on India.And restrained any Indian industry that was in danger of competing with a British industry.Had India been free to develop their nation (all of the sub-continent).There is a strong possibility they would have progressed along the same lines as (non-European controlled) Japan was able to.
The decline of China of that time also had a lot to do with European meddling in China.The British “Opium Wars” on China being the perfect example.China was also in those days a “workshop of Asia” along with India.Chinese goods were wanted throughout the East and Europe.The British didn’t want to pay the Chinese in gold or silver for the goods.And they produced nothing the Chinese really needed.So they started sending Opium to China.As we all know its highly addictive.And many Chinese started to become addicted to it (the famous “Opium Dens” we’ve seen in movies started then).The Chinese government seeing what it was doing to their people banned the import of Opium.The British went to war against China and forced China to allow Opium imports.That was just one example of the West’s underhanded dealings with China in the age of “China’s Weakness”. The Western record in the so-called 3rd World,from the start,until today has been an abomination.
Uncle Bob–And all of that nascent Capitalism was undergirded by Slavery. Virtually none of the Capital raised by the British to finance its industry was ethical or proper, starting with Enclosure. It’s very eye-opening to read Utopia, or De optimo rei publicae deque nova insula Utopia as it was titled originally by its author Sir Thomas More in 1516. Although a fictional tale, More’s description of the conditions of British commoners being subjected to Enclosure is factual and graphic. It’s been duplicated electronically by Project Gutenberg, which is an awesome literary source, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2130/2130-h/2130-h.htm
Quote from that book:
“””””OF THEIR SLAVES, AND OF THEIR MARRIAGES
“They do not make slaves of prisoners of war, except those that are taken in battle, nor of the sons of their slaves, nor of those of other nations: the slaves among them are only such as are condemned to that state of life for the commission of some crime, or, which is more common, such as their merchants find condemned to die in those parts to which they trade, whom they sometimes redeem at low rates, and in other places have them for nothing. They are kept at perpetual labour, and are always chained, but with this difference, that their own natives are treated much worse than others: they are considered as more profligate than the rest, and since they could not be restrained by the advantages of so excellent an education, are judged worthy of harder usage. Another sort of slaves are the poor of the neighbouring countries, who offer of their own accord to come and serve them: they treat these better, and use them in all other respects as well as their own countrymen, except their imposing more labour upon them, which is no hard task to those that have been accustomed to it; and if any of these have a mind to go back to their own country, which, indeed, falls out but seldom, as they do not force them to stay, so they do not send them away empty-handed.”””””
Well, what they describe here looks like usual capitalism, let’s say it describes modern day EU.
I wonder if it is really 500 years old.
While in pre-revolution Russia the conditions were certainly at least the same if not worse, like everywhere.
The banking system dictates the economy, the economy dictates the top 0.1%, and they rule over all the lower 99.9%.
That’s what led to the Russian Revolution. And I can tell you (as somebody who grew up in Soviet East-Berlin) : Communism, with all its flaws of implementation: It was the highest step of development of the human race.
Maybe the General-Director of a huge Kombinat had 5 times the income (rather less) than the toilet cleaners of his sawod.
Now, what is the gap in today’s “social market” capitalism???
—>> instead of 1:5 it is 1:100 Millions?? That number is probably still too small for the top 0.001%
Who never lived in a Communist country cannot know it first hand, but it was the happiest time of my life, and many folks all over Eastern Europe agree with me when I ask them personally (Bosnia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria).
p.s.: Back then neither I nor they knew how good it in fact was, many including myself were still believing western propaganda lies (RadioFreeEurope type of dirt), but now we grew smarter the tough way …
Sadly most of the people with that opinion are not the types woh organize themselves, take guns and start a revolution. Rather they work like in a mouse’s wheel, or stay at home, watch TV and become alcoholics. That’s why I have such a deep respect for the courageous men and women of DonBass, WHO FIGHT for their ideals. But as always it gets completely misrepresented by ZioFascist western media. As long as they cannot be taken offline and replaced, the world cannot be rescued. Thoughts how to accomplish this? Well, almost impossible. Because whatever happens or doesn’t happen: They will always abuse it for their benefit.
Pretty soon people who yearn for communism will be able to live in it, as it will definitely come to the West. Of course not the elites – elites always live their own special life no matter what the political regime. But the poor will get the “socializing the losses” and the elites will get “privatizing the gains” – which is communism in a nutshell.
And with all the surveillance already in the West, there won’t be long until a culture of spying on each other will develop, as it was in communism:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/east-german-domestic-surveillance-went-far-beyond-the-stasi-a-1042883.html
In Romania it was even worse, people snitched on their neighbours just for pleasure or revenge. Thousands of people went to jail and endured horrendous beatings from the Securitate (Romanian equivalent of Stasi) sometimes for nothing, just so that the goons get some exercise.
“The USSR seen almost a quarter century after its death”. by Manuel García to Blog del viejo topo.
*Includes : “10 great achievements of communism in the USSR” by blog El carburante de la historia.
*Also in references and recommendations:
“The USSR a country where wages, yes, they reached”
“Lies about the Soviet Union” by Mario Sousa.
“An indispensable reflection: Damn socialism, how we miss you” by Higinio Polo.
( Note that the articles are talking about the USSR, not Romania. Communism in Romania would be another object of study, totally different and responsability of its governments and citizens ).
http://blogdelviejotopo.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/la-urss-vista-casi-un-cuarto-de-siglo.html
Hi elsi, thanks for above link and a comrade’s regards to Spain!
As for Romania: Everybody should take the hour to read this and watch the videos:
(Ceaucesco was INNOCENT of the staged “massacre” of Timisoara, it is Ukraine all over again!!!!!)
The Strategy Behind the 1989 Romanian Revolution: What Can We Learn?http://by-julietbonnay.com/2014/03/how-to-start-a-revolution/
Here a google translation of some parts of http://blogdelviejotopo.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/la-urss-vista-casi-un-cuarto-de-siglo.html
In 2016 a quarter century of the disappearance of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is met. What follows is post about what it meant to the USSR for the Soviet people and for the people of the world.
I have not been very enthusiastic of the USSR while it existed. Today we no longer say that my opinion was the same. While about the blog The fuel of history published an entry that we remember:
10 great achievements of communism in the USSR
Source: blog The fuel of History
Published on November 29, 2012
Following tweeted a view in hastagh called #CulpaDelComunismo I have decided to write again. Today I will talk about the achievements of the Soviet Union in its 74 year history, we are used to hearing that the USSR exterminated their own people, the Berlin Wall, Prague 68, Afghanistan … and beyond These facts show us the way biased and manipulated, neither the media nor popularizers never speak of the countless achievements that got the USSR.
1 It was the first state in the history of humanity in ending hunger thanks to the collectivization of the land; many countries very advanced today (like the US) have not been able to end this scourge (or unwilling).
2nd was the state that bore the greatest burden in World War II to defeat the Nazi army ; according to military analysts, 70% of the Nazi army was defeated on the Eastern Front; some 24 million Soviets died in the greatest war in history to kill Hitler and his genocidal ideology. However, today we continue to show how the winner of the US war, thanks in part to the hegemony that Hollywood has gotten in collective thinking.
3rd The USSR led the global campaign to eradicate smallpox in the world , a disease that took millions of lives every year especially in Third World countries, in the former colonies of the capitalist states. 15 million cases of smallpox were treated in 31 countries, thus eradicating the disease. Today there is a latent danger that spread massively again. Click here for more information on the subject.
4th Soviet social security ; this point (hows the previous three) would need an entire entry; I’ll just summarize a few aspects of what was the first social security history, born of the Soviet constitution of 1936.
– Working hours of 7 hours, 6 for specialists.
– Pension system for the elderly or disabled. Retirement at age 60 (for men) at 55 for women; in hard work (mining, heavy industry …) could be lowered to 50. To receive a full pension you had to work between 20 and 25 years.
– Maternity leave from the beginning of pregnancy and one year after childbirth, some 20 months in total.
– Sick leave 100% of salary.
– A month of paid state holiday.
These are the most impressive parts of the Soviet social security, which after more than 70 years after its adoption seems unattainable for the capitalist countries.
5th The first free and universal health care system, which increased the life expectancy of the Soviets that was less than 40 years in 1917 to reach Western levels in the 80s (70). The achievements of the eradication of hunger. This medical system performed the first organ transplants.
6 The first fully free public education system , which reached the highest rates of literacy history in the 15 Soviet republics. Moreover, Soviet schools offered free food for students, so the work-family reconciliation is made much easier today in the capitalist countries. The nurseries were also free.
7 The great economic achievement that won the USSR , according to several political analysts, has been the highest economic growth in the history of humanity, make getting delayed and feudal Russia into an economic superpower, also significantly improved the lives of their citizens. Churchill immortalized the feat with his popular phrase: “He took a Russia with plows and left it equipped with atomic bomb” , referring to Stalin.
8 Space Race . A fact of special importance since managed to reach the technological level of US-and superarlo- in 40 years. Having emerged from feudalism without technological capacity, the USSR was the first country to send a satellite into space -Sputnik-, the first living creature into space -the bitch Laika-, the first man in space Yuri Gagarin- and the first woman in space Valentina Tereshkova-. However in the collective imagination it has been that we won this race the Americans, being the first to reach the moon.
9th Popular Culture . The USSR was the country where the culture reached its highest levels of expression. The USSR was the country where most newspapers were read and sold, where more books sold (also the cheapest), the country where concerts were held. It was a country where the masses of workers went to the opera, where most theaters, cinemas and cultural buildings existed.
10th Got that women had the same rights as men, equal pay, equal employment opportunities, the same opportunity to achieve public office … The USSR achieved full equality between men and women .
I wanted to leave it at 10, but fit many more points. Commodities, as well as light or water, were virtually free, like housing. Vehicles if that were harder to come by, but there was a public transport network covering the vast expanse of the Soviet Union in a good way, public transport in urban centers was free and of a quality unsurpassed by the West. They would also be remarkable sporting achievements of the USSR, both internally (country with the highest percentage of amateur sports) and the Olympic Games, as discussed in a previous entry. Not to mention the solidarity of the USSR colonized countries of the Third World, many of which achieved independence through Soviet aid; and solidarity with the nations attacked by fascism, as the Spanish case, where the USSR -along with Mexico was the only state to support the legitimate government against fascism.
It should be added that also served in the West, in capitalist countries, levels of welfare for people is reached for fear of the Soviet system. The best test is to see what has happened since the USSR disappeared .
About the quality of life in the USSR, circulating an informative post on the Web that has collected information on wages and prices in the Soviet Union, which gives a general idea of the social and economic conditions of the Soviets. It is available by clicking on this link: ” The USSR a country where salaries if they reached ” . The wording and the way the information has been collected is somewhat fuzzy, but provides an idea of how in the 80’s basic needs were amply covered.
My purpose is to draw attention in a country long overdue, having supported four wars in eight years on its territory, with the consequence of destruction and victims, reaching an economy out of capitalism, very rapid progress achieved in forty years to put the USSR between the two most advanced countries were achieved, besides defeat the Nazis in another war largely developed in their territory. Naturally, this development had a human cost and can plead objections to some liberties, but we often forget that capitalist development has had and has a human and cost much more important freedoms.
Finally, one of the myths of anti- They have to do with the “victims” are attributed to Soviet communism, and they would go from 100 to 300 million people. It is a fact based on a random quantification and also includes victims of five wars. In addition you can also put the victims of capitalism in the twentieth century, or the wars of religion and the Inquisition promoted by Christianity 2000 years. How this anti imaginary drawing a gruesome scene in the Soviet past was reached making? About this suggest reading this “Lies on the Soviet Union” , Mario Sousa (by clicking on the link you can download the pdf job). Sousa looks at who were the authors of this development, step by step dismantling the myth.
I recognized from the start what was going to happen in the West after the fall of the USSR.Without a fear of the people turning Communist. The elites wouldn’t even throw the people the “bones” that they did in those days.They know the people have nowhere to turn.So they removed their masks of caring about their own people.And we’ve see the decline of living standards throughout the West (for the working,poor,and middle-class) since then.Its not an accident that in the ex-USSR countries Western polls show 60+% of the people in those countries say life was better during the USSR.They see what has happened to themselves and their neighbors under the new “democratic” governments.
Well said: Exactly!
Because only few (only the most informed ones) understand, that the end of the CCCP was not only the end of fair easy stable happy living conditions for us in the East, but equally as much for you in the West.
Add to this increased automation, robotics, computer revolution (which has more severe impacts than the industrial revolution of the 19th century), plus then again all the new US started wars und bombed out homeless people, plus yet again the (until now) exponential growth of World population.
Plus: Add that the Fed/B.I.S./Worldbank/IMF/global Rothschild Central banks based finacial cyclus has reached pretty much its end once again, due to – well – also exponential growth (via interest-on-interest). The Fed was created in 1913. The West is D O N E.
Here alone the official foreignt debts of germany(!!!): http://www.staatsschuldenuhr.de/
I’m polite and don’t post the foreign debts of the USA …, but there really isn’t a single country (maybe Monaco?) which is not indebted to its upper nose-tip. Funnily indebted with “money” that was created by debts-creation. What a ponzi scheme. That’s why we need Lenin and Stalin again. Somebody must put the banksters into a very remote cold dark place, where they can do something useful for the first time in their “lives”.. Won’t work with friendly poems. Maybe with flowers? Mhh …
FLOR solitaria:
The first time I travelled through Romania was in 1988, then almost once or twice per year since 1992, just now last month again, and I have friends 50km east of Timisoara.
The poverty was there, but you should understand the reasons: WHAT KILLED Nicolae Ceausescu http://historum.com/european-history/58063-what-killed-nicolae-ceausescu.html
As for Romania: Everybody should take the hour to read this and watch the videos:
(Ceaucesco was INNOCENT of the staged “massacre” of Timisoara, it is Ukraine all over again!!!!!)
The Strategy Behind the 1989 Romanian Revolution: What Can We Learn?http://by-julietbonnay.com/2014/03/how-to-start-a-revolution/
As for spying: SeriouslY Is that a joke? Back then it was a child’s birthday compared to western spying now!
Trolling is not allowed here. This isn’t Freerepublic or the Guardian.
sandbox: It is the same fight against the same evil which morphs like a bad Hollywood Sci Fi flick from day to day into this or that form. I give all respects to the people of the Donbass ( as per Mark Sveboda) who are very much frustrated to be fixed to their role in the cross hairs of history. They are , to use an old word from an old paradyme, the vanguard of the struggle for the survival of the human race. But We do what we do where we are faithfully and in integrity. Just bought bumper stickers to distribute ” Sandra Bland, You will not be forgotten” . This is our fight on our front here in the belly of the beast. I will next approach to public radio station which organizes tours abroad to try to get one going to the museums and cultural sites of Russia next year. Seems tame compared to the mass antiwar demonstrations of the 1960’s and early 70’s. The women at the foot of the cross also gave moral witness and those people who bravely pulled out their cell phones to record beastly brutality gave moral witness. It is the least and sometimes the most that is to be done at a particular time and place. ( again apologies to moderators who have to sift through this to judge relevance).
It appears that some Ukrainians are asking for a visit from a Russian Spetsnaz unit.Hopefully they get it soon:
“Ukrainian border guards began shooting and inflicted injuries Russians on Russian territory ”
27 of July, 02:02
Ukrainian border guards began shooting two residents of the Rostov region, who decided to make selfi on the background of the Ukrainian checkpoint ” Red Talovka “, one of the men were injured and taken to hospital, informs the border Department of the FSB of Russia in the region.
http://news.rin.ru/eng/news///121787/
yes Uncle Bob…the other day I saw something about Poroshenko too, that made me think…”I wonder if he will ask Russia for help against the Right Sector”….it would fit as he’s played both hands … signing the Minsk agreements etc….
I don’t know how it would work with Novorussia and Poroshenko even if he asked Russia to come in with the army, but if Russia was asked to protect the government from RS it would be legal internationally speaking and Putin is a stickler for keeping to the laws of the lands….
I think that chance was lost in February 2014.The legal government of Yanukovich could/should (did?) have asked for Russian protection during the coup.It would have changed everything.And the crisis we have today wouldn’t have happened.
Latest MH17 theory on FortRuss: (Anonymous member of) Ukrainian military acknowledges it may have shot down flight MH17
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/07/ukrainian-military-acknowledges-it-may.html
RT had a very interesting op-ed piece on China today.I’ve often thought that Russia made a horrible mistake in the 1980’s and 90’s in not emulating some of China’s policies.I think had they done so Russia would have not suffered the Yeltsin years of decline:
“Collapse that never happened: China bounces back, discrediting Western analysts”
All the voices in the US media who gave alarmist predictions in the aftermath of China’s stock market plunge earlier in July should be very embarrassed. The aftermath of the market crash has proved China’s economy to be highly resilient.
Since capitalism in China is tightly controlled and not allowed to run rampant, the population is far safer from the harmful effects of market turbulence.
According to the Financial Times, 55 percent of the US public is directly invested in the stock market. The majority of these people have no choice in the matter. They are seniors whose pensions were invested by their employers, or they are employees whose salaries are tied to “stock options” or other mechanisms linking them to the New York Stock Exchange.
As a result of the stock market’s central role in US society, when the financial crash of 2008 occurred, unemployment almost immediately went up to 10.1 percent, the highest it had been since 1983. The rate of hours worked per week dropped to 33, the lowest number ever recorded. Overall, the median household net-worth dropped by 35 percent between 2005 and 2011, according to a Vox Media report. Many people in the United States are still suffering the aftereffects of the financial crash of 2008, despite the widely reported “recovery.”
What makes China different?
Analysts in the US media, probably basing their views on what they know about the US economy, made predictions of catastrophe when China’s stock market plummeted on July 8 and 9. The US press had already spent months describing the “slowdown” in the Chinese economy as proof of impending collapse, at the same time as demonizing China’s President Xi Jinping for allegedly being a “neo-Maoist.” When 1,400 companies filed for a trading halt after a 30 percent drop, the US press went into a frenzy, declaring that the seemingly invincible Chinese economy had finally been brought to its knees.
However, the results were very different than those predicted. Within a week, China’s economy was pretty much back to normal. US economists were shocked to see the country reach the goal of 7 percent quarterly growth, despite so many predictions that it would finally lag behind. China’s plans for massive construction of irrigation systems and high-speed trains were not halted. The “New Silk Road” foreign investment programs are still moving ahead.
How was it that a massive stock market crash had so little impact? How was it that China’s market could crash dramatically, yet society could just move on apparently unscathed? The answers point to realities about the Chinese economy that many Western analysts are unable to comprehend or even acknowledge.
First, only 6 percent of the Chinese population is invested in the stock market. The Chinese stock market is a small club for millionaires and billionaires. China’s industrial workforce, which make up the majority of the planet’s industrial workers, do not have their wages or salaries tied up in “stock options.” The pensions of China’s elderly people are also not at stake with market flexibility. Most of the Chinese population is fully insulated from the chaos of the beloved neoliberal “free market.”
State ownership of industry is very widespread in China. Fifty percent of the world’s crude steel is manufactured in the mostly government-owned Chinese steel industry. China’s state sector controls a great deal of banking and other centers of economic power.
Secondly, despite a huge amount of private ownership, the classic laws of the market studied by economists all over the world do not apply even in China’s vast private sector.
Usually, following a financial crash, there is widespread panic in the stock markets, with investors rapidly pulling their money out. This did not occur in China because the government refused to allow it. Immediately after the crash, the government moved swiftly into action, implementing a variety of “anti-selling measures.” The Chinese government threatened to arrest anyone who was caught short-selling. All major shareholders and directors were blocked from selling stock for six months.
Essentially, the Chinese government stepped in and prevented the natural results of a stock market crash. Corporations were prevented from doing what they would normally and naturally do under such circumstances. The Chinese government gave marching orders, forced market players to do the opposite of what they were inclined to do. The result was a rapid economic recovery that shocked the world.
Keeping the “Invisible Hand” in check
In China, capitalists are not free to invest as they choose, nor are they allowed to move money around based on what is most profitable. Corporations and assets are routinely nationalized, and wealthy capitalists have even been sentenced to death for harming the public. Last year, several employees of a Shanghai based food firm were taken away in handcuffs when it was exposed that they were supplying rotten meat to clients, including McDonald’s and other major restaurant chains.
The Chinese economy is watched over closely by a huge entity with over 88 million members: the Communist Party. It has direct control of the People’s Liberation Army, and all government officials are subject to its discipline. Most major private corporations have Communist Party officials who are assigned to watch over and monitor their activities. Sometimes these officials can be helpful to corporations. Capitalists can often utilize the government’s assistance in order to make more money, as this is in line with the party’s goal of expanding China’s Gross Domestic Product. However, the Chinese government has the ability to give direct orders to privately owned entities, forcing them to act according to the party’s wishes and against the dictates of capitalism’s much heralded “invisible hand.” China’s economy is now rebounding, with the stock market rising once again, because the Communist Party refused to allow the market to function naturally in response to the crash.
Attempts in the US press to blame the market crash on Chinese president Xi Jinping are highly disingenuous. Articles that make these arguments offer very few explanations why Xi is to blame. They merely quote broadly worded statements from market-oriented Chinese think tanks.
If anything, it was lack of regulations that caused the crisis. The Financial Times reports: “Since they were not subject to regulation, fund-matching companies permitted higher leverage and lower barriers entry.”
There is now widespread investigation into the unregulated practices of fund matching corporations in China, who may have greatly contributed to the events of July 8th and 9th.
Xi Jinping and the rising “Chinese Dream”
While Xi Jinping is hated in corporate boardrooms and on Wall Street, his actions are wildly popular with many people living on the Chinese mainland. The Economist stated: “He is now more popular than any leader since Mao.” On another occasion they described him as possessing “unusual popularity,” saying “Mr Xi has been winning hearts with a ferocious assault on corruption.”
It’s understandable why Xi’s “mass line campaign,” as well as his popularization and revival of the ideas of Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping, are refreshing to millions of Chinese people. Many have become alienated and frustrated by rising corruption over the last few decades, coinciding with the expansion of China’s market sector. With headlines such as, “To Reignite A Nation, Xi Carries Deng’s Torch”, the Chinese press portrays Xi Jinping as a champion of the founding principles of the People’s Republic, whipping China back toward building a prosperous socialist society.
China’s highly successful economic model should be studied by anyone who wants to improve the living standards of the human race. When the global capitalist economy reacted to decades of neoliberalism and experienced a horrific crash in 2008, China continued to roll ahead. As the world market reeled in the aftermath of the crash, China’s Gross Domestic Product increased by 9.6 percent in 2008. Chinese industrial production increased by 12.9 percent that year. Since 2009, the wages of Chinese industrial workers have been steadily increasing, with the rest of society keeping up with them. In 2012, the wages of Chinese private sector workers increased by 14 percent.
While the Western world is consumed by austerity debates and its new generation faces a low-wage economy, the standard of living for China is rapidly increasing.
The secret to China’s success can be found in the role of the state. A powerful government, which has its roots in the 1949 popular revolution, has the ability to keep the market under its control. In China, the “rule of the dollar” certainly exists, but it is secondary. It is the population, organized and directed by the Communist Party, which ultimately has the final say in economic matters. While capitalist investment is utilized to strengthen China’s economy, the country is spared from the difficulties associated with the market. Capitalism exists, but it is obedient and compliant, existing at the whim of a very strong government, with deep roots among the population.
As China rolls ahead, it should be clear that Xi Jinping’s “Chinese Dream” contains key economic lessons for the entire human race.
http://www.rt.com/op-edge/310774-china-economy-crisis-communist/
Thanks Bob. I got / get a lot of questions from overseas friends about the imminent / ongoing collapse. My answer has been “Huh? Collapse, you say?”
Neither the stock market’s rise, nor its fall made any noticeable impact on the daily economy in China.
Of far greater concern is the Govt’s re-inflation of the real estate bubble. Prices were correcting on a fairly orderly, if steep, trajectory. That correction was badly needed as real estate is grotesquely overpriced in the major cities. Its re-inflation bodes badly for the common people.
I would agree and disagree.
But that narrative builds on the (wrong!) assumption, that it was a number of “co-incidences” what happened to the Soviet Union and then Yeltsin’s Russia.
Again: The Unknown Putin. Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCU4C6ajgBI
As for China’s current stocks crash: The situation at the stocks exchange is nowadays more and more disconnected from real economy. For average people that’s bad if stocks are in a bubble (and they cannot participate in the gambling) but good in situations like now. And, keep in mind: IT IS WAR – financial Terrorism plus western Information war:
Chinese Stocks Suffer Second Biggest Crash In History, 1,500 Companies Halted Limit Down
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-27/chinese-stocks-suffer-second-biggest-crash-history-1500-companies-halted-limit-down
Why China Will End Up Like Japan http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-27/why-china-will-end-japan
So, China is by no means out of the woods yet.
And the WAR is just starting its hotter than before phase now.
Nevertheless no reason to completely shrug off that there is a problem.
The sinking Oil price also a problem:
and a falling oil price drives down the RUB directly:
http://www.oil-price.net/
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=usdRUB%3DX+Interactive#{%22range%22:%223mo%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true}
USD/RUB (USDRUB=X)
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59.6995 +0.1000(+0.17%)
Wort reading, also see the comments:
The Rothschilds are preparing their monarch for the Russian throne http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/07/the-rothschilds-are-preparing-their.html
The Rothschilds are preparing their monarch for the Russian throne
LOL, this is a very good example showing why inbreeding leads to very harmful traits in the prodigy.
A terrorist attack in Northwest India,near the Pakistani border is happening right now.Its very likely to be militants from Pakistan involved.This should throw a spanner in the improving relations between India and Pakistan (if not make them much worse).Anybody know who might hope to gain from that.My guess is the first initial is U and the last is S.
http://www.rt.com/news/310810-india-police-station-attack/
I know people are known to do stupid things in College. But sometimes those things portray the way they really are. And when you are a top (probably) level candidate for the President of the US (Republican),those things you did in College can be seen as disturbing.So lets check this one out.I wonder if he wouldn’t be more at home in the Ukrainian Radical Party:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204605331351295&set=p.10204605331351295&type=1&theater
and if you watched “Illuminati Wife Tells All” you would see that Scott Walker was posing for a “men’s only” club….that’s what’s in control of our country(s) right now. Pretty bad.
A pity that the band has chosen an anti-Putin message to pass on to their American ‘fans’ , as we can see in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLF8nBsxEp4
The English lyrics does not match the video above, does not mention the “Reich”, for example, as shown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1LMJ7xpDm4
I think it’s a shame that need of some bands to be “accepted” by the Yankees, as if it were a ble$$ing …
Thanks for the pointer.
How pathetic :(
Ok, everybody is permitted to mature slowly by experiencing her/his personal learning curve. And what does this baby-“girl” know about the world?
That’s always a big problem with some(!) of such youngsters: All they know are computer games, Hollywood movies, expensive cars, luxus parfums and western media. That’s their religion.
They believe they are “soooo coooool”.
Often had this problem on MoiMir when trying to find the ideal woman many years ago.
But I guess meanwhile the mood is shifting towards the East in Russia and Serbia, even in that age group.
Alexandre
In the video in the 2nd link (Fight Club), what you are seeing there is footage from their DVD overlaid with audio from a CD of English language versions of their songs. In the English versions of their songs, the lyrics are written by Travis Leake, I believe an American working out of Los Angeles.
The first video, announcing their American tour is from 2013, before those “nice people” in the west began their brutilisation of the Ukraine (where the 2 members in that video, Lou and Vit, are originally from). I wonder if that war has opened their eyes about what the west is about and what the “liberals” in Russia really intend to do in Russia, should they regain power. I have not seen anything political from the members of Louna since the ZPC/NWO coup’d the Ukraine, so I don’t know if they are still drinking the “kool-aid”, or how they feel about their songs being used to support the people of Novorussia?
Yes, I found out later that they have English versions of their songs, but ironically my translation is A LOT closer to the Russian lyrics than the one they use. Not sure if they simply had a bad translator, or wanted to have a different message in English. I use “Reich” instead of “Babylon” because Biblical references don’t translate well, but the rest is very close.
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