Note: in my analysis yesterday I quoted Margarita Simonian, the head of Russia Today. Today I have asked my director of research, Scott, to translate yet another thought provoking series of comments made by Simonian yesterday. Now that we see that Biden has imposed even more sanctions on Russia (right after his phone call), her words take on an even deeper meaning.
The Saker
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In regard to Biden’s phone call and his summit with Putin. The phone call took place, so what? Will this negotiation take place, or they won’t take place, regardless, it won’t change anything in their attitude towards us. Our relations towards them is our reaction to their actions. We don’t want the same things for them as they want for us. We don’t have the aim to destroy the USA, and to break the United States apart into 50 small independent countries. We don’t seek to disarm the US and strip away their nuclear weapons, and to take away their every potential in every way. In other world, everything they are trying to do to us. We don’t have plans against them similar to those they, actually, harbor towards us.
Interviewer: We don’t even want to democratize them and to demand from them to stop human rights abuse. They elected a new president, but their police officer just again killed an Afro-American. They have unsolved racial problems. Biden criticized Trump for exactly the same Trump criticizes now Biden.
Simonyan: The United States’ attitude towards us will not change. The United States, due to their nature, won’t tolerate anyone who even in theory could threaten their existence. We are, in theory, threaten their existence and they cannot agree with this. And they will continue to do everything to make sure that we as such would disappear .
In these conditions, a meeting between Putin and Biden will be just a protocol event. The meeting will be just for pictures. There cannot be any serious discussion and decision taken during such meeting. Even if something were decided during this meeting, it will be overwritten and nullified the very next day. I don’t believe there could be any substance and any common sense to this meeting.
To stand by their word is not a part of American mentality. It’s something we do. And our president follows this rule. He does certain things, not because it’s profitable, but because he had an agreement. They don’t have the same attitude to their agreements. Gorbachev had an agreement about the West not extending NATO eastward towards Russia’s borders. What had happened to this agreement? Or, take, for example, American national pastime of bringing troops home from Afghanistan.
An American easy attitude to words explains Biden’s words about a “killer”. They simply don’t attach the same meaning to words. I don’t know what exactly took place there, but I imagine that a fame seeking journalists, a Lary King wannabe,RIP, asked a provocative question and Biden responded as he could. It was impossible to cut it out, because everyone leaks there. They leak even secret government negotiations. Everyone would know in ten minutes that Biden’s people demanded to cut out a part of an interview concerning president Putin. Biden would be forced to explain himself for the next three months. I would incline to thing that it was a guff, not as serious as it looks from our point of view. We take this things seriously. We say that since you call our leader a “killer” then we won’t communicate with you and will be in a state of war. Listen to their election debates and how they verbally abuse each other. We would be terrified, but for them it’s absolutely normal.
As for the Ukraine, I think that the United States as they urged Georgia to attack back in 2008, they are trying to push the Ukraine to do something equally stupid. The most important are Patrushev’s words about a provocation that might take place with the participation of Ukrainian military that would provide the Ukraine with a chance to start a war against, and I am quoting here, against Crimea. In simple terms, to start a war against Russia. America, like a Santa-Clause of steroids, presents us with such “presents” for many years, now. We wouldn’t recognize an independence of Ossetia and Abkhazia for twenty years. But we had it done thanks to an American gift. We would never consider to start creating a sovereign internet, if it weren’t for the American gifts of blocking us online and demonstrating us a need for such thing. We wouldn’t be able to develop our agriculture and food production if it weren’t for their sanctions and our contra-sanctions. And, there wouldn’t be reunification with Crimea, if we had normal relations with the Ukraine. This new gift in a shape of the Ukraine attacking Crimea is unavoidable. Its a medical fact.
“This new gift in a shape of the Ukraine attacking Crimea is unavoidable. Its a medical fact”. This remains to be seen. Yes, I can accept Ukraine attacking the Donbass, as Ukrainian troops and equipment are facing it. But an attack against Crimea ? How ? By land ? The land border between Russia and Ukraine in Crimea is very narrow, and from the tactical point of view an attack would be suicidal, as Russian tanks, artillery – classical and rocket – would be concentrated on that narrow piece of land, not to mention missile systems and combat planes.
An aerial attack ? The Ukrainian Air Force would be blasted out of the sky by Russian combat planes and missile systems.
A sea attack ? The few ships Ukraine has would be sunk by Russian combat planes and coastal missiles systems.
And yes, Ukraine could launch some sort of symbolic attack against Crimea, using a combination of possibilities, as described above, all in order to provoke Russia and accuse it of “aggression”. But that would only be a symbolic attack for which Ukraine would pay a huge military price.
Crimea has been turned into a fortress even NATO cannot take. It has been reunified with Russia, where it belongs. End of story.
You projected logical thinking on the other side or “partner” as Putin would put it. Know this is not about facing a thinking enemy.
To Margarita Simonyan ,your Truer word’s have never being spoken . As long as there is an America the world will never have peace ,Especially Russia and the Russian people and their soul !!! the soul is what is missing in these EVIL Bodies , so they are not real Humans.
But we know that America is just the military arm of the evil satanic group and we known who they are and where they are living on this earth !!! they are not in America their pupits live in American ,out of 250 years , American has being at peace for only 23 of those years. Russia is a at a cross road ,Like Putin said ,if their is no Russia why have a world ,Russia is the last hope of freedom not only for Russia but the WORLD.
Putin Should known by now . Evil and Good can not exsit together for Ruusia and the world to have peace!!! Margarita Simonyan would make a great president for Russia and the Russia people.
Tom
It’s one or the other !!
remembering this isnt a war between nations. its way deeper than that. this appears to be the battle lines. we know who the enemy are. they have spoken this for centuries.
A Future Vaccine to Prevent Knowledge of Soul and Spirit From The Fall of the Spirits of Darkness (Bristol: Rudolf Steiner Press, 1993; GA 177), p. 85.
October 7, 1917– “The time will come – and it may not be far off – when quite different tendencies will come up at a congress like the one held in 1912 and people will say: It is pathological for people to even think in terms of spirit and soul. ‘Sound’ people will speak of nothing but the body. It will be considered a sign of illness for anyone to arrive at the idea of any such thing as a spirit or a soul. People who think like that will be considered to be sick and – you can be quite sure of it – a medicine will be found for this. . . . The soul will be made non-existent with the aid of a drug. Taking a ‘sound point of view,’ people will invent a vaccine to influence the organism as early as possible, preferably as soon as it is born, so that this human body never even gets the idea that there is a soul and spirit. “. . . the heirs of modern materialism will look for the vaccine to make the body ‘healthy,’ that is, make its constitution such that this body no longer talks of such rubbish as soul and spirit, but takes a ‘sound’ view of the forces which live in engines and in chemistry and let planets and suns arise from nebulae in the cosmos. Materialistic physicians will be asked to drive the souls out of humanity.”
How cleaver, how humble. How different of the media boss in France.
Bravo.
USA suffer because of geography.
If USA were Roma , it’s like Carthago and Parthians were neighboors.
I can’t understand why they did all they can to throw Russia in China’s arms( vice-versa)
Do they want to totaly isolate the heartland? A little bit big to chew.
I think that sooner or later Russia will have to liberate entire Novorussia and to kick America and NATO out of Ukrainian Black Sea coast.
At this moment it would be very costly in economical meaning but West is pushing Russia and maybe very soon Russia will not have other choice.
USA does not have guts to fight Russia or China or both of them but they will continue with these provocations.
They will not stop and that is why all of this become really dangerous.
Margarita is giving Maria a run for the title of ‘best of class’. Powerful words that sing loud the truth of the relationship of America with Russia.
She has it right: Russia Dead is the goal for the US.
Biden, a rabid Russophobe has no skills or ability to sit with Putin and negotiate.
He wants to beat Putin at some propaganda event.
We wait for President Putin’s retort.
Meanwhile, Margarita said it well.
(Thanks to Scott for the translation.)
i expect putin will agree to meet. not b/c he respects biden bt he respects negotiation & peace. russia has already won, how isn’t entirely clear, whether the build of troops or some electronic display, bt it became clear to the mic that it would lose badly & its arms sales would suffer, so i view this meeting as essentially what happens after a defeat. putin will o/c be gracious bt unrelenting. america will be allowed to bellow & blow bt things evermore will be different. biden & mic are playing for time, in hopes to catch up, they won’t, how can they with education & r&d in disarray? russia, china, iran are full steam ahead on all fronts. america is lagging behind in everything save propaganda. it will play out like the flight from saigon…years before americans admit or realize they lost. thank you, saker, your threads & posts have been golden.
Thanks for the translation. Yes, it is a gift. A war with Russia even by proxy will only weaken the American Ruling Committee although they believe otherwise; whereas, a War with Russia will only strengthen it as a whole.
All my hope and trust for final peace and prosperity for mankind is based on Russia, the last bastion of sanity and christianity and final peace on this globe.
IMO, we the last sane people of this planet have an obligation to support Russia in her effort to keep the peace not only between Ukraine and Russia but for all.
For if Russia “is gone” the planet is lost for everyone. The Illuminati or whatever name is circling around the planet or is underway to another planet to try their satanic luck.
They were “lucky” on planet “Sheep”.
Russia is not the enemy. Now Satan have “opened” their game we can clearly see how dark and ugly they are.
And it took about 35,000 years before we realized!
To Larchmonter445
‘ Margarita is giving Maria a run for the title of “best of class”
Your right on ,the problem that Maria has, she can not say what she really want’s to say because of her posisition
in government ,which gives Margarita and advantage.
But they are both Great !!!! We are really in living in historical times and exciting one’s.
Tom
The saying “While you didn’t give the word – be strong, and after gave – keep you promise” Russian children learn in infancy. People who don’t keep their words lose trust of society an it is almost impossible to return it. This is a life position of the nation. For Russians the United States has long been “nedogovorosposobni” (non able to agreements), because it is not able to keep its word.
how/why is this lady the leader off that cnn clone rt that prints mostly garbage now?
her words dont match the reality of the news network she runs imho.
i do not disagree with her, i just cant process her words here and the stuff her rt is publishing..
Agree.
RT is now just another “tabloid”.
Days and days of naked Ukrainian models – butts on the balcony.
Something every sordid clickbait was covering (or uncovering).
All those resources to have an “alternative” to western trash media….. only to outcompete with trash.
And RT should monitor the feed From Our Partners….. where their partners trash Russia.
Mr. White Whale, if you have a personal issue with beautiful women just don’t go to RT. Regarding the channel’s political line I and millions of users are happy with it. Everyone is free to make his or her choice.
It is called “expanding the circulation'” – You think that a Russian media op should just stay ‘highbrow’? – but Russia Today aims to attract as wide an audience as possible. I feel more pragmatic about such things.
A comparison with CNN is certainly correct: The compartmentalised format of CNN is a good one to copy.
CNN however has a reputation for telling the most outrageous lies, particularly from Christiane Amenpours mouth. In contrast i feel that the political/economic articles of RTs journalists are quite informative, incisive and trustworthy.
apparently you miss warmongering on RT. RT is perfectly in line with the president. So why don’t you attack Putin instead?
Yes, it comes down to what you are, at core.
“The Scorpion and the Frog — Aesops’ Fables.
A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion
says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”
The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”
Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature…”
Nothing will stop the EuroAnglo’s of Oceania from trying to destroy Russia. Nothing will stop them harassing smaller nations by killing innocent people, including children, as they are dong now in Syria. The world will never know peace – as long as these “scorpions” exist. Why? Because they are scorpions. They do it because ti’s what they are. Then only solution will be to destroy them utterly – and that will probably happen, because in order for the nations of the world, especially Russia, not to be driven to do it, America would have to change.
And it can’t.
Study what it took the German army under General von Manstein to take the Crimean peninsula. As far as I see it Ukraine neither has the means nor the military for that task.
“We don’t want the same things for them as they want for us. We don’t have the aim to destroy the USA, and to break the United States apart into 50 small independent countries. We don’t seek to disarm the US and strip away their nuclear weapons, and to take away their every potential in every way. In other world, everything they are trying to do to us. We don’t have plans against them similar to those they, actually, harbor towards us.”
I know that Simonyan is talking about the American govt and officialdom.
Still, it bears repeating that the American on the street—I won’t even say “average” because I think this goes for 99% of Americans—don’t bear any animus toward Russia and they in fact don’t even have a clue as to what is going on. Don’t know where Ukraine is. I don’t watch the MSM, but I reckon there is no mention on CNN, NBC, etc. and certainly no analysis of the dangerous situation Biden & Co. have created.
I look out my kitchen window and I see my fellow Americans wandering along, carrying their takeout coffees and soft drinks, wearing their masks, and I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry. OTOH, ignorance is bliss. OTOH, the picture of cluelessness . . .
Meanwhile (https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/royal-navy-reports-russia-closing-5304504) . . .
“Russia has reportedly announced it will close a crucial strait in the Black Sea to foreign warships, including the Royal Navy, for the next six months.
It comes amid growing tensions in the region – with the UK and other G7 nations demanding that Russia ‘ends provocations and de-escalates tensions’ in Ukraine.
Royal Air Force (RAF) Typhoon jets, armed with Paveway bombs and Brimstone missiles, have already been sent to Romania amid fears President Putin is preparing to invade its neighbour.
Earlier this week, UK defence chiefs confirmed the multirole fighter jets will police the skies around the Black Sea.
And, yesterday, Russia warned America – as two US destroyers headed towards the area – to stay away from the region: “For their own good,” reported The Mirror.
Meanwhile, Reuters reported that the United States had cancelled the deployment of the two warships, according to Turkish diplomatic sources. [[[[Ha ha!–K]]
Now sources in Ukraine report that the Russian Federation has announced it will close the Kerch Strait, from next week until October 2021, “for warships and state ships of other countries under the pretext of military exercises”.
This also “closing off the Ukrainian ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk to [maritime] traffic.”
It’s about time.
Katherine
Dear Margarita knows the US pretty well, as she lived there for an extended time. Her opinions seem, honestly, a bit strident in tone…valid, but a bit strident. Which quality, I judge, is hysteria with the prospects of the unspeakable actually happening. A mild hysteria is entirely understandable, given what we know.
I assume she knows things we don’t. If she’s worried, so am I.
Classy gal.
My best to her.
If it is to be the unspeakable, well, my best to you all.
One thing that is infuriating about Americans is that they always accuse others of what they themselves are doing. Their level of shameless projection is on such a level of chutzpah that it simply leaves you speechless.
“Their level of shameless projection is on such a level of chutzpah that it simply leaves you speechless.”
That we are dealing with “chutzpah” at all betrays the hidden hand behind the curtain.
I just think, they call Putin untrustworthy, shifty, thug and pretend THEY are the ones upholding international law bla bla. While he truly does stick to rules and international law. And America itself do nothing but break it, lie cheat and steal. It is enraging.
Regardless, I am not American. I can not sift through the internal workings of their political system or their power groups. I attribute all the actions and official statements and the tone of their public debate to America itself. If the Americans feel their actions for some reason is not a true reflection of what USA is, that is for them to do something about and not anything for non Americans to have an opinion about.
That is an unusual statement – that it is “a medical fact” and “Unavoidable” that Ukrainiacs will attack Crimea. It does make sense and, God Willing, Christmas will arrive early in World-Cup-Host-Nation Russia.
Am I the only one who realizes the change of tune in the interviews with Margarita Simonian?
She is developing a political voice that should be reckoned with in future.
But she obviously developes her patriotism, her self consciousness as Russian, her political stance as a thoughtful person.
I wish, we here in Germany had only one classy woman like her or Maria Zarkharova.
Unfortunately for all of us we only have to offer Angela Merkel or Ursula von der Leyen. What a difference ….
We are doomed ….. ;-)
Margarita Simonian smiles with her eyes. It is a beautiful smile, full of honesty and generosity of heart. I always trust people who smile with their eyes.
The smile of heart is the smile of God’s creation ;-).
I still believe there will be no war. The empire will try to tease Russia with small provocation “accidents or mistakes” too small to make a full fledged response possible. I don’t like Margarita and to put her on the same level as Maria is according to me a big mistake. Sure one cannot blame the weapons per see although these sophisticated weapons have a “mind” of their own. But it is those who would use them that have to be eliminated one way or another. As long as the Empire lasts no peace on earth is possible. People do not seem to realize what would be the outcome if the dark side of falsehood and evil wins. To my opinion Orlov is mistaken. Sure evacuation of children and those incapable of resistance should be brought to safety. But there are other forces higher then the rational mind in the human integer. There are sources deep within and if they are awaken they don’t care about worldly prudence. The Donbass people will stay because they will fight for a fundamental purpose. Abandoning the struggle means abandoning their own true Selves. and an insult to all those who did heroic sacrifices since 14,.and Russia would have to abandon Transnitia ( sory for the spelling) etc. one position after the other. Auslander will stay because there is a larger goal to secure a future for those who come after them. I appreciate and honor him for his unflinching stand and courage
Ever since I came across Margarita Simonian I thought that she would make a brilliant Russian president if Putin ever retires. If I were Russian I would vote for her. She knows extremely well what is going on in the world and she is also extremely intelligent to be able to work with it all.
This also describes the way I look at what she says.