by Saker’s Johnny-on-the-spot in Serbia for The Saker Blog
The regime of one of Europe’s last two tyrants (guess where the other one is, hint: also in the Balkans) has been convulsed by massive outbursts of popular discontent and disobedience during the last two days. For all his fabled manipulative skills, Alexander Vučić, the tyrant here in question, made the foolish miscalculation by taking himself and his ability to intimidate the populace he was eight years ago installed to rule by the machinations of Western intelligence services, just a bit too seriously.
The immediate trigger for the popular insurrection was the autocrat’s apparent impression that he could continue to play indefinitely and with impunity the nasty cat-and-mouse lockdown game begun after the arrival of the corona virus to Serbia several months ago. Corona resonated favourably with the mean streak deeply embedded in Vučić’s disturbed psyche, and it was quickly welcomed by him as one of those crises he just could not allow to go waste. Surrounding himself with a coterie of medical charlatans who correctly sensed their boss’ sadistic inclinations and were willing to lend them a superficially scientific veneer, disciplinarian Vučić eagerly embraced the most restrictive, Chinese model for dealing with the pandemic. Over a seemingly interminable two and half month period during the spring the populace were subjected to a brutal lockdown regimen which during some weekends, including Orthodox Easter, stretched to 96 hours of continuous house arrest. But when in June it was ordered from on high that “election” preparations disrupted by corona were to be resumed, the medical hacks dutifully announced that thanks to Vučić’s brilliant handling of the emergency, in Serbia corona was “vanquished.”
Parliamentary elections were then triumphantly staged on June 21 with Vučić’s party – unsurprisingly – sweeping 66% of the seats, and a few satellite political groups being awarded the rest. This touching expression of popular gratitude for a corona job well done, as it turned out, was strategically indispensable to enable Vučić, already neck-deep in secretive negotiations to sign off on NATO-occupied Kosovo’s formal separation from Serbia, to use fraudulently acquired total control over parliament to amend the constitution to “legally” do just that.
Believing his purpose to have been accomplished, the arrogant tyrant then foolishly overplayed his hand. The medical issues were of course unresolved by the brilliant Dr. Vučić and in fact continued to simmer under the surface (the real number of people affected by the contagion and who actually died from it were crudely falsified down) and Serbia’s hospital infrastructure was collapsing. On Monday therefore Vučić went on national TV to decree the only therapy he knows how to impose – brute force. He announced to a stunned nation, which had just emerged from two and a half months of house arrest and was left deeply humiliated by crudely falsified “elections,” that beginning on Friday he would reimpose lockdown and compel large sectors of the population, about a third in the initial stage, to submit to forced vaccination. Never mind that Dr Vučić had apparently overlooked the minor detail that even magnates most interested in cashing in on forced mass vaccination, like Bill Gates, were not claiming that presently one was actually at hand. But that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The mere thought of being forced back into their cages and, to boot, of being obliged to submit to the injection of unknown, untested, and possibly dangerous substances hastily improvised to make loads of money and get rid of useless mouths was enough to trigger a reaction even from the dispirited and docile population of Serbia.
On Wednesday this week huge crowds began to gather spontaneously in front of the Parliament building to express their boisterous disapproval of the tyrant’s plans. After an assault they even managed briefly to burst into the eerily empty parliament building, still unoccupied by Vučić’s yet-to-be sworn-in fraudulently elected deputies. At first, the police stood by and merely watched the unprecedented manifestation of popular disgust; once they regained their wits, received reinforcements, and were issued orders from above they pounced viciously on the protesters.
Stunned by his helots’ unpardonable act of lèse-majesté, a visibly rattled Vučić then went on to make his second foolish gaffe in as many days. He again appeared on nation-wide TV, to denounce the protesters as outlaws and fascists, but that was the least of the absurdities that he uttered in the live broadcast. He went on to ramble incoherently that the dissidents were not just “flat-earth” partisans, but even more outlandishly that they were infiltrated and directed by believers in a “square earth,” whatever that silly construct is supposed to mean in his mind. (One recalls with amusement the leader of a Caribbean nation pontificating several years ago on the subject of extra-terrestrials during his address to the UN General Assembly.) That was at 3 pm on Wednesday, as an incredulous Serbia watched its megalomaniacal and delusional President go off the deep end on live television, Ceausescu style.
Three hours later, around six in the evening, an even larger and angrier crowd of “square earthers” began to gather in front of Parliament. But Vučić’s tontons macoutes were also ready, reinforced by cohorts of provocateurs infiltrated in the crowd with the task of creating incidents that would furnish the rationale for the police and the gendarmerie to do a Belgrade replay of Tiananmen square. The tension on the streets was so thick it could be cut with a machete. Groups of regime hooligans were positioned in spots not far away from the parliament area, ready to assist the forces of “law and order” when instructed. As the crowd in Belgrade booed the tyrant and screamed indelicate insults inspired by his widely suspected intimate preferences, heartening news was being received of similar manifestations erupting in the streets of Novi Sad, Niš (where in a huge hint to Vučić the police and army units refused to beat up on peaceful citizens), and other Serbian cities. Broken heads and bones were everywhere.
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Sidebar: We report with sorrow that information was just received that the young man who was brutally gang beaten in Belgrade by Vučić’s Serbian police last night, as shown in the video, has passed away. The authorities are trying to hush up his death and have not released his name or any official admission of the circumstances in which he was murdered. We do not have any details, other than that by the time the ambulance brought him to the hospital he was dead. Also, information was just received that last night the police used military grade poison gases rather than regular tear gas to disperse the crowds. People exposed to these combat weapons whose use on civilians is prohibited by international conventions were losing consciousness and collapsing to the ground. The use of these illegal substances by the authorities was witnessed by French doctors who will document it. Tonight at six o’clock in the evening protesters will be assembling again in front of the parliament building.
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Eventually, of course, the thousands of students, retired people, housewives, and citizens from all walks of life retired for the evening. But as Scarlet O’Hara memorably put it, “Tomorrow is another day.”
What is now in store for Vučić? On Thursday he nonchalantly flew to Paris (colleague Ceausescu had flown to Teheran just shortly before his day of judgment) to discuss Kosovo arrangements with Macron. On Sunday he is scheduled to meet with one of the Kosovo secessionist leaders in Brussels, presumably to put finishing touches on the recognition agreement. Whatever the further course of civic opposition to the regime (civic revulsion would perhaps be a better term), it is clear that during the last two days Vučić was politically wounded, and irreparably. In the eyes of his NATO sponsors he was whacked where it hurts the most. He has been delegitimized as Serbia’s spokesman and will henceforth be perceived as being without authority to sign off on an agreement amputating 15% of the country’s territory and renouncing its cultural and spiritual heartland, whatever titles he might still officially claim to have.
The commotion in the streets of Serbia has hugely complicated the successful completion of his one remaining task – signing off on Kosovo – after which (mission accomplished) he will become a useless burden and be thrown under the bus by his Western sponsors before the Serbian people even come to arrest him. They have tolerated his moral turpitude and unbridled tyranny for the sole purpose of achieving that objective. They needed a seemingly strong Serbian leader with an appearance of popular support to perform the dastardly deed so they could then say pacta sunt servanda and make it binding on his successors. But now, the entire operation looks far less certain and even if Vučić signs off as instructed, legally and politically (never mind morally, that is of no concern whatsoever to any of the actors) the value of his signature will be greatly diminished.
Vučić is cornered. If he keeps the commitment he made to his Western sponsors to formally accept the rape of Kosovo in the name of the Serbian state, the disturbances of the last few days will be a mere garden party compared to what he would then have to face. If he continues to delay the promised act of treason and reneges on the Faustian bargain he made in return for power and plunder, he will face the outrage of his foreign handlers. There is no need to elaborate. He knows exactly what that means. One feels sorry for the man, almost.
All of those savage police officers who mercilessly clubbed and kicked that young guy to death have to take off the uniform and go home eventually. I wonder what type of reception will be shown to them by their neighbours who have been sticking their necks out trying to save the country?
I hope the people of Serbia have the heart & ability to overthrow this obviously rotten Govt. Agree whole heartedly with you re the Police response. What mongrels they are – hope they’re strung up on lamp posts & pissed on.
@James
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Thanks for this very informative article.
I hope that the popular mass protests in Serbia will have a better issue than the yellow vest protests in France. I suspect that Serbians are not as brainwashed as the French are, and that Vucic doesn’t have the elaborate propaganda tools at Macron’s disposal. And then there is one murdered protester.
Still, the Serbian people will have to show a very strong resolve, as the police in Serbia doesn’t seem to be less violent than the French police.
“But Vučić’s tontons macoutes were also ready, reinforced by cohorts of provocateurs infiltrated in the crowd with the task of creating incidents that would furnish the rationale for the police and the gendarmerie to do a Belgrade replay of Tiananmen square.”
Ziomedia garbage about the quelling of the 1989 “popular revolt” in Tiananmen Square should not be promoted in the context of a hated Western puppet. The stunt in Beijing was, figuratively speaking, Vucic’s folks in action and they failed miserably, In Serbia, it’s the exact opposite scenario. The terminally sick and rotting West holding on to a highly oppressive status quo.
I think he means that agent provocateurs in Serbia have started to escalate the violence as did the 5th column Western-backed students who began to lynch and burn alive unarmed PLA forces which eventually started the turmoil. I read out of his sentence that he implies that Tiananmen Square was nothing more than a failed Gene Sharpe-style Colour Revolution attempt.
If so, a much more apt object of comparison would have been the Euromaidan, Kiev, 2013/2014, especially with regard to the use of gratuitous, reactionary violence. I still feel very grateful for the Chinese State’s resolute dealing with the nonsense. If successful — at a time when the USSR was all but finished — the putsch in Beijing would have ushered in an era of pitch-black reaction globally. And now the Chinese are dealing also with the West’s hooligans in HongKong; thank God.
Serbia and Ukraine represent the opposite end of the spectrum. Brutally oppressed and ravaged regions courtesy of Western Oligarchy’s designs against Russia.
The analogy between the Maidan and these protests is erroneous. The Maidan has overt Western backing from the very start, Janukovic didn’t unleash his police on the protesters and we know how it went along. Yesterday the US embassy implicitly backed Vucic. The media under his control, shameless lying tabloids, have in the meantime accused Russia of staging these protests.
opzicija je kesa
vlast je kesa
narod jos mrda
nismo mohikanci
Yandex translation. Mod:
an option is a case
power is a case
people are still moving
we are not mohikanci
Bravo Milovane,
Simple yet profound.
The machine translator has not captured the subtleties of this quatrain.
“The (political) opposition is corrupt & useless
The party in power is corrupt & useless
The nation is not dead yet, still twitching
We refuse the fate of the Mohicans”
Bravo, Serbian Girl! for shouting Bravo! When I read this article I thought, Hooray for Serbia!
Many thanks for translating the subtleties of that poem. It’s not easy to translate poetry; usually, “the poetry is what gets left out of the translations”.
I agree: Serbians will not join the Last of the Mohicans.
Loosely translated meaning:
Existing opposition is about money.
Existing authority is about money.
The people are barely alive.
We have not vanished yet.
nije kesa, pobogu!!! case je slucaj..
Google translation,MOD:
It’s not a bag, for God’s sake !!! case is case ..
Mixing historical metaphors helps no one’s arguments… That this man wants to view Tienaman Square as an example of an efficient state suppressing a popular manifestation, is his choice. Please stop quibbling so much that you confuse the issues entirely with your black and white thinking.
I may have to write a poem about being stuck in ideological paradyme and about thinking outside the boxes…little boxes filled with ticky tacky…
I try to make fun of my own because it really does not serve my effectiveness here in Looneylandia to cling to it. But, of course, you have written us all off here—the American people–so I know where you stand which is why I don’t respond at all to you. Consider this an oops! on my part.
You are entirely correct. There was no “Tiananmen square massacre”; even western anti China media reluctantly admit it, but try to pretend that it does not matter because there were “massacres elsewhere”.
Thanks for the analysis: and where is the tag, #Serbianlivesmatter? The policemen who kicked the man to death should be arrested immediately or, given the way things happen informally these days, put on a list for eventual cross off.
Truly, it was a horrendous video… and the death as barbarous as GeorgeFloyd’s because All Lives Matter.
First, my thanks to Saker for the fast response to a conversation started by teranum in the Cafe, showing how ignorant of the true situation in Serbia – indeed in all small nations really – we know ourselves to be, and would wish to correct.
Secondly, this article has only been up a few hours, yet now has over 1200 views, which seems to me to show how many of us are out there, hungering for news from a source we believe we can trust.
It’s awful news to know what the people of one-time Yugoslavia have been suffering – and from no fault of their own. It also shows the kind of people the Empire Ruling Regime prefers to associate itself with, work with, and use to further it’s vile ends.
Hopefully the end comes soon – and if this man is dealt a Ceausescu end, I wont cry.
what you are about to learn will blow your mind:
donbass people are descendants from serbs
and today they both are first in line fighting the empire
read more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavo-Serbia
btw, in mid-march 2020 i predicted Vucic will fall, the West led him to slaugher
i will try to find my comment with my prediction
Not only that, Mr. Aleksandar Sargic and his team have made numerous videos published on the Srbija Global youtube channel, documenting the fact that the Serbs are actually indigenous to the Balkans, among other things, and that there are many forces in the world who wish to keep this truth obscured. Complete with linguistic, archeological, genetic analysis galore. And English subtitles.
The reference in the above poem to the Mohicans is not just like that. The Serbs, or Slavs if you like, really are Europe’s indigenous people.
And if the lockdown is a fraud in Serbia, it is a fraud elsewhere. In the UK we have an average mortality rate of 62 per 100,000 of population. So, covid si struggling to be as deadly as the flu.
Yet the hospitals are effectively shut down for most routine medical treatment and the wokest of the population are telling others to wear masks. And the churches are mostly still closed, and even where they are open you mustn’t sing or take communion. something devilish going on here as Mr Israel Shamir alluded to in his msot recnta rticle at Unz.
Agree. Even in the darkest days of WWII, with nightly bombings by the Luftwaffe, and daily death and destruction, facing an invasion only a few miles of sea away – the churches were not closed.
Indeed, although many theatres in London closed for the worst of it – there were those for whom, years after the war, it was a proud boast over their building “We never closed”.
Yet now, for a virus of minimal population damage, specific to one small part of population – everything shuts down. ?????
I dont know how anyone can not see something very threatening and wrong with this picture.
@Pamela: “Yet now, for a virus of minimal population damage, specific to one small part of population – everything shuts down. ????? ”
Especially the Church. NATZO destroyed churches in Kosovo and Syria. Bolsheviks destroyed churches in Russia (read 200 Years Among Us). This is the work of Mammon.
“You cannot serve both God and Mammon”.
This is not about the virus. This is about using the virus for political gain:
Before the election, Vucic had all public campaigns and political rallies banned due to the pandemic. His party, on the other hand, with their total control of the TV network, was able to broadcast their political message directly into the homes of the locked-down population.
Then, as election day, approached, he announced that the virus has been vanquished and people are allowed to go out and vote…
(The vote took place although voter participation is rumoured to have been not more 30%.)
After confirming a landslide victory for homself, suddenly he claims virus is back and lockdown is needed again…
“This is not about the virus. This is about using the virus for political gain:”
Now it seems that voices are speaking up on here, loud on clear for the truth that for many, many weeks had to be fought for.
Not for Serbia only, but universal recognition. So much strength and benefit for all could have been won if this had been the central, informing impulse for thought, understanding and action.
Vucic is democratically elected. He had to hold the elections in June 2020 due to constitutional requirements. The ppl and the media are free to criticise him and his government, so he’s not a dictator. Vucic is stuck between a rock and hard place because of the plandemic and colour revolution that’s taking place. Why is the Saker supporting the colour revolution narrative?
Why is Saker supporting regime change in Serbia? A good question.
AN alternative view of what is going on:
Serbia Protest Explosion – Vučić Caught Between Coronavirus and Color Revolution
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/07/10/serbia-protest-explosion-vucic-caught-between-coronavirus-and-color-revolution/
It is led by a hilarious photograph of protestors attacking the police with metal fence panels, presumably protesting the lockdown, yet the protestors wear Covid-era masks.
“If at face value we accept the uncritical narrative on coronavirus, and do not know about Color Revolutions or the ‘plandemic’, then we arrive at the view that the protesters are out of their minds and have fallen victim to right-wing ‘fake news’, are ‘Covid deniers’, and that the government has handled this following long-established procedures and relatively sound recommendations.
But once we peel back a layer – the plandemic/scamdemic layer – we reveal that the government may indeed be manipulating the data towards political ends, because this is what we’ve already seen in nearly every country to-date. Now the position of the protesters makes sense, and these mirror the anti-lockdown protests that we’ve seen in the U.S. From this, we would arrive at the view that the Serbian government is ‘on-board’ with the so-called ‘scamdemic’, and naturally there would be well founded sympathies with the protests and even with the joint opposition.
The problem is that there is still yet another layer to peel back – the Color Revolution. The ugly truth is that the same globalist forces that have manufactured this plandemic are those who are also trying to mobilize a Color Revolution against Vučić’s Serbian government.
And now we can see Vučić sandwiched between Color Revolution and the Covid-19 plandemic.”
Unfortunately, what we see, what we know, what we think, what we think we know, bad what really is, sometimes are different things.
I know from a reliable source that Srdja Popovic (of Canvas-Otpor fame) is in town, and antifa.
Now it begins to make sense.
What is the idea behind protests? Announced lock-down? Not really, the lock-down has been more or less ignored in Serbia anyways. Authorities lying? They have been lying ever since, just as anywhere else. Today is day 4 of the protests. At the beginning , it was not clear if what was happening and why. A few opposition figures were promptly booted by demonstrators when they tried to join. It looked as spontaneous. But, we are adults. Three days later, something emerges from the fog. Opposition from Novi Sad is marching on Belgrade, both official and non-official media are saying. Two provocateurs have been arrested yesterday, with Israel passports, doing what – setting up battle supplies, similar to pallets with bricks in USA, That is very strange thing, Who on earth dares catching Israelis on clandestine operations, then put it on TV and newspapers – one of many links – https://mondo.rs/Info/Srbija/a1346943/Protesti-beograd-Uhapseni-stranci-BIA-Policija-Neredi-Haos-Foto-Video.html. However, in this very link, at the end it says that they were promptly released.
It seems that new Maidan is under way – Srdja Popovic, antifa, izraelis pulling garbage containers to block the streets. I agree, Vucic is scum and no better than Janukovic, but does Serbia need Serbian Poroshenko? And who would that be?
Unless I am total wrong and S. Popovic is just visiting parents in Belgrade. An rumour about paid demonstrators is of course just a rumor.
Vucic is no Yanukovic or Poroshenko. The whole of Kosovo was administered by UNMIK according to resolution 1244. Then the liberals took over power and they only handed over the Southern Albanian part of Kosovo to EULEX while northern part was still controlled by Serbs and UNMIK. When Vucic came to power he handed the remaining Northern Kosovo (where serbs live) over to EU mission EULEX, EULEX in turn handed northern Kosovo over to Pristina. Vucic did this after Kosovo Serbs successfully resisted the handover of the borders to EULEX and Albanians. Vucic betrayed the Kosovo Serb protestors by pretending to be fighting for their cause with his right wing past, he turned into a neo-liberal with authoritarian tendencies.
Otpor is not behind the riots, it is right wing Obraz. Yes there are also the liberal Djilas local fan club participating or rather there is infighting between the right wingers and liberals.
A small correction, EULEX was installed by the consent of Tadic regime when the Kosovo status negotiations were taken out of the UNSC and transferred to EU patronage. In the last years of Tadic’s regime, Germany exerted significant pressure at his govt to dismantle Serbian institutions in north Kosovo, the courts primarily, which Tadic was unwilling to accept because he feared a patriotic uprising, and the patriots then were, ironically, Vucic and his cronies. When the West brokered a deal between Dacic’s corrupt socialists and the new founded SNS (also work of Western embassies and intelligence) and they came to power, they fulfilled German and US demands to dismantle Serbian institutions in Kosovo, by signing the Treaty of Brussels in 2012. The Albanians have as of yet failed to fulfill a single commitment they had whereas Serbia fulfilled them all. Vucic even bragged that the West gave him “oral” (sic) promises the Albanians will fulfill the terms of the treaty. Those terms were pretty mild, to form the Serbian Municipality Association which would have some minor jurisdictions. That too was too much for the Albanians and their Western patrons didn’t think it necessary to pressure them to fulfill this. Their intention is to force concessions only on Serbia and to give virtually nothing in return. The West is treating Serbia as a defeated enemy and isn’t willing to negotiate. Frankly, I don’t understand the commenters who defend the Vucic regime, he clearly is their man and there are many arguments to prove it.
Please wake up, the Israeli agents story was released by Vucic and his media which are now openly anti-Russian. If you know the story of Milo Djukanovic you will realize that Vucic is being groomed to become the Serbian Djukanovic. The Montenegrin dictator too was initially a national-oriented man who swore his allegiance to Serbdom. Now he is the chief enemy of Serbia, worse than the Croatian Ustashe or the Albanians. Nobody thought in 2007 he would force Montenegro into NATO, against the wishes of the population, and commence a vicious anti-Serbian propaganda campaign on all levels. That’s what Vucic is being groomed for. And Djukanovic is in power for more than 30 years.
There protestors who attacked the police were likely govt. hired. yesterday, a group of so called “opposition” tried to hijack the protests in the true Soros manner and turn them to something entirely else but for now they failed.
If that Popovic scum and antifa are indeed in town, they are surely tasked with co opting and taking over the protest. That will not be an easy task.
Fortunately, the protester is alive, was arrested and after few days released (not sure, maybe prosecuted but alive).
It seems more police were injured than ‘protestors’. The whole text seems straight out of CIA regime change central planning.
That is totally opposite the claim in the text:
“Sidebar: We report with sorrow that information was just received that the young man who was brutally gang beaten in Belgrade by Vučić’s Serbian police last night, as shown in the video, has passed away. The authorities are trying to hush up his death and have not released his name or any official admission of the circumstances in which he was murdered.”
If the text is wrong, the error should be acknowledged and the text should be corrected. If this is not done, the actions speak for themselves.
With sorrow I follow this Serbian experiment with Mr.Vucic and I find very difficult to understand,when I know how stupid and disoriented Serbian sheeple really are.Years ago and till now I have arguments with number of people in Serbia about this Vucic menace.For whatever reason there was a brick wall between us.They worshipped this menace of a man.Anyone who knows Americans will understand that Vucic is their construct and they need him to finish the job.Vucic love attention and to be up there as the only one.Yet ,Serbs are so gullible.I am so sorry for them.They have no leader to put Serbia in a proper place.They murdered all those who stood for their nation and they feel that this pony is a right one to saddle.How deluded they are.More pain and sorrow for that region,because America,s filthy fingers are in that pie.Another problem is that England,France and Germany have only interest there but not real friendship.Even Russia is walking on eggshells there.
An excellent summary of the developing situation. Unfortunately I do not see any future as the vast majority of the population are aware that no real political nor spiritual leadership exists outside the ruling elites, plus the country and region as a whole is utterly devastated by wars, sanctions and Western reforms. Sadly the Covid-19 crisis also means that those willing and able to escape have nowhere to go as the West is facing economic and social problems with mass unemployment… I pray that the Serbian population finally awaken and defend their last remaining sovereignty before the current bandits sign it away forever… NEMA PREDAJE!!!!
@Mad Serbian: “Sadly … able to escape have nowhere to go as the West is facing … mass unemployment…”
Good! They must stand and fight, like the Syrians who stood and fought alongside their president Dr.Assad.
“There was a stone in the middle of the road, in the middle of the road there was a stone”.
That stone was Syria, and it halted the NATZO juggernaut. The Axis of Resistance spread from Syria to Lebanon, to Iran, to Russia, to China, to Yemen, to Libya, to Venezuela. Perhaps now to a resurgent Serbia?
Not all Serbs sought refuge in “the West”. Remember how long it took giant NATZO to conquer tiny Serbia, even though NATZO (EU + U$A) dropped more bombs on Serbia than Nazi Germany did?
I remember, a few decades ago, a letter from a Russian lady who said that Russia owed Serbia thanks because Serbs fought the Nazis “tooth and nail”. I remember, even longer ago, my Greek father taking me to the cinema to see Greeks fighting the Nazis so hard that they delayed Hitler’s plan to invade Russia before onslaught by Russian general Winter. Little people in a small nation can still make a difference.
“There was a stone in the middle of the road”.
Installing a lesbian prime minister says it all about the absolute decline of the Balkans. I’m sorry to say but I must say Russia takes a lot of responsibility in contributing the loss of the Orthodox lands of the Balkans from the beginning of this mess. For instance, Russia refused Yugoslavia’s request to join the Russian Federation during the conflict of the 90’s and then would not supply Yugoslavia with updated air defence equipment like the S300. By taking a back seat, Russia failed to protect it’s Balkan brothers and wonders why NATO has managed to creep up to it’s borders.
Until now Russia’s inability to act was blamed on its horrendous situation of the 90’s but hopefully, this passive approach will change. At the same time Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia (no, it’s not North Macedonia. That is a false name decided by it’s puppet govt and Western masters) need to kick out their puppets and immediately request to join the Eurasian Union. Russia would do well to immediately accept them. Additionally, these three Balkan states need to join China’s BRI. And they need to forget any reconciliation with it’s Catholic and Muslim neighbors yet maintain peaceful relations. Simple solutions.
Accurate analysis. However, looks like the injured youth did not pass away. He is badly injured though. The ANTIFA Sorosoids and the so-called opposition which is also EU fanatical have tried to co-opt the protests. They were quickly denounced and ousted by the crowd.
Vucic has no choice but to betray. Or else his Western puppeteers will execute him on the street like a dog. It would not be their first. They, Americans, publicly executed Prime Minister Djindjic in 2003 after he reneged and started to question genocidal policies of the West towards Serbs everywhere.
Vucic has betrayed his own ideals and has now travelled a journey from a national-chauvinist of the 1990s carelessly fomenting hatred through to an EU-fanatic to an ultra-gay idealogue Clintonista contributing $2,000,000 to Hitlery’s campaign courtesy of the Serbian taxpayer (before COVID thingy hit, Belgrade was to be a host-city of the 2022 World Pride with the political homosexuals of the world congregating there). To get a picture of the total collapse Serbia is going through it needs to be mentioned that funds to pay for overseas treatment of sick children are usually collected by fund-me-like mobile phone campaigns because the state lacks the funds and/or knowledge to do it in the country.
President Vucic’s main adviser is Tony Blair. Prime Minister of Serbia is a USAid employee and militant lesbian who is also Croatian, a people that pathologically hate Serbs.
P.S.
Looks like Vucic’s advisers are setting up the stage to blame the Russians for the unrest with various innuendos being spewed by the tabloids and dailies controlled by either or both Vucic and NATO.
Marko, youa telling how it is. On Russie Today, there is fairly neutral and factual article https://www.rt.com/news/494459-serbia-protests-vucic-terrorism/
In short
– protest started after Vucic announced hars measures and lock-down
– the announcement was taken back, due to outcry (not just protests, I assume)
– NGOs and Antifa tried to take over protests, but were rejected by majority
– Right wingers decided not to participate (continue) the protest, offered to take over, offer refused
– Kosovo is always a trump card – anybody can blame anybody yet nothing could be done by anybody, because USA/CIA/UK/Germany control the situation
– Young people seem to be fed up and simmering. This occasion may easily turn to be Gavrilo Princip moment – not the cause, buut the trigger for World War I. This is trigger for something, WWI was used as ilustration, for non-serbian readers who may not know WWI and Gavrilo Princip storyu
– Vucic is out of the country, in France. At the moemnt, a joke is going around in Serbia: Serbs simply do not like rulers named Aleksandar – two were assasinated, and Vucic is number three. first two were from feuding dynasties. First Alexandar (Obrenovic) was assassinated by military officers in 190., in coup de etat which brought the other dynasty in power – Karadjordjevic. Alexandar Karadjordjevic was king of Yugoslavia and was assassinated while on offical visit to – France, in 1934. Vucic must be blackmailed by his overlords, and might become the third Aleksandar to die if he pisses them off. On the other hand, if he does not piss off the handlers, and obeys the order, the mob might do something about that.
No protest in Yugoslavia/Serbia including 1968. were spontanious. Thje fact that current oposition leaders are not accepted by majority of protesters, and NGO/Antifa attempt seems to fail,liberals trying to provoke chaos, police being much less tough than expected, we don’t know who is leading this. Might be nobody, in that case this would qualify as spontanious protest, attempts to hijack it did not succeed. Spontanious protests are the worst nightmare for powers to be. You don’t know who to chase and detain. at the end, without unifying idea and leadership, spontanious protests get squashed in ashort time. However, while protestts are under way, people on all sides might decide to take sides. It is easy to find reason for anger with Vucic and his clique, do’t even mention teh oposition and powers before Vucic, nobody wants to side either with Vucic nor with opposition. However, with spontaneous protests, people may decide to join and several factions will appear. Perfect mix for civil war. Nodody (people, police, army) is happy with current authorities, except pensioners maybe, but oppositiomn is way worse. Some of them might strike on their own – aginst NGO, corrupted officials 9plenty to choose from), corrupted opposition, judical system, evengood deal of foreign spies. Serbia is a small place, everybody knows everybody else, good or bad.
Mr. popovic, of Cnavas fame will never be prosecuted by authorities, his handlers protect him well. But, individual attempts are not out of question. Al it takes is a tenager to die, parents could blame NGO, people are under stress and do not think rationally. All the ebts would be off. Fthers, brothers, uncles may decide that enough is enough, they have nothing to loose anymore. They cannot bring the authorities down, but could scare them by example. then come copy cats and another polititian/NGO/spy leaves the world…
Prey to God to save and help Serbia. Extend that please to the whole world, from experience, when Serbia goes to war, it usually escalates.
Hmm. Deutsche Welle has an opinion piece saying “Serbia is not a democracy”, “Merkel has supported Vucic for too long”. Vucic has tried to work with east and west, but it looks like forces from both sides are reaching for power in a moment of his weakness.
Yeah, they figure he’s a goner, which he is, and need to distance themselves from the stench. Not that they smell of roses mind you.
No, that much is clear now. First he pinned it on the opposition, then right wing groups supported by Russians, the next day it was Israeli citizens arrested (!), now he’s mentioning tycoons (wtf?). It’s a right fuck up.
This is a national revolt, a real one, with everyone from war veterans, lowly priests (sadly not the hierarchy) and patriotic youth, and pretty much everyone else with some dignity and a conscience attending. He tried to turn it to his advantage, but has underestimated the intensity of the rage he has provoked over the years, and has now lost control of it. He is a goner, mark my words.
Politics is downstream of culture, and this simple fact can be elaborated on from many directions, including historically. As stated above, the donbass people are descended from serbs, and from the earliest records of oral traditions, including their later great epic texts, these remarkable connections are found reflected in the eastern European country of the Ukraine.
Lack of awareness of the significance of the Slavic lands and people does them no favors, for they are and have been a target of hate and destruction, as all of Russia, in the past and now on the world stage.
To what extent this protest has been prompted by lockdown and interrelated systems of attack on individual freedom is not clear, but it was the spur, the prime factor,
Allah be praised for the Serbian people, at last, action.
I was there, am here, and I can vouch for every word in this article. Except for that poor lad in the video, he appears to have survived the ordeal, thank God.
What I find extremely encouraging is that for the first time since the start of the protest, last night Ruptly covered the whole event live.
This is not going away.
Also, the public and the police are fast wising up to the fact that a large number of organized hools are there every day with the purpose of starting basically pointless violence. Which is in turn supposed to provoke a police reaction and make Vucic look as the one preserving law and order.
Except the percentage of people who still believe that narrative is dropping like a stone.
There is also word of a revolt in the Serbian National TV broadcasting corporation, which has always been in essence a bastion of subliminal and not so subliminal anti-Serb propaganda, with a very thin ‘national’ veneer.
He’s a goner basically.
But the real question for us Serbs is what happens after he’s gone. The existing opposition is not much better than him, save a precious few.
Also, I just want to remark regarding the title of this article, insufferable is exactly the most precise adjective that can be used to describe him.
That does not mean I hate him.
Actually, I truly wish he had the capacity to repent, to admit to his wrongdoings and beg forgiveness and protection from his people. That would be much better for us, but also for him.
But I am afraid he is way past the point of no return.
Hang on there Vojin. Thanks for the first hand account.
We, stupid as we are, are not and will never be NATO. You dont now anything about us. Only way for us is Vucic. If he is down, ura patriots will be devided, some incorporated in new sistem, and some will lament over how good their intentions were. It happend before. Only way to us being defeted as a nation and a state is leting this shit to go for days. Governmant has to proclaim state of emergency and stop this. Again, who doesnt hate us and who wish us good.
If Yugoslavia remained as a united federal state, things could have been a little bit better. A united Yugoslavia would have more leverage in global politics.
As of 2020, we have several economically, demographically & militarily weak “independent” states that have joined (or intend to join) EU & NATO as subservient states.
During cold war & Tito period, Yugoslavia was a federal non aligned state with a sizable military power and had an important economy that followed a distinct socialistic economic model (different to the economic model of USSR) .
Yugoslavia was a regional power (even though many internal problems existed as everywhere in the world)
With Soviet collapse came the Yugoslavia collapse. Much of it was fuelled by economic problems but also western actions that inflamed local & interethnic tensions.
Western powers (and mainly Germany & USA) did not want a regional power in the Balkan region.
Yugoslavia was disintegrated & split into various states that eventually joined NATO & EU as protectorates….
So much disaster & hardship so that all Yugoslavian countries to end up together in EU & NATO ….
There was no point for the Yugoslav wars (or the point was to dismantle Yugoslavia for the benefit of Western interests & local oligarchs)
Tito and his henchmen committed various atrocities in Serbia. Tito’s Yugoslavia was allowed to exist because the world needed a buffer zone. By 1953 Tito officially joined NATO through the tripartite agreement with Turkey and Greece. Tito partitioned Serbia into two provinces both with veto powers effectively paralysing Serbia whilst Croats who switched to the Nazi side straight away and perpetrators of unimaginable crime of genocide were not only forgiven but were given free hand in his Yugoslavia.
Serbia situation reminds that of Russia.
During cold war, both were the main part of a larger & stronger socialist federal state (Yugoslavia & USSR). Both states dissolved in 1990-91…
Then there was economic upheaval in the 1990s and wars (Kosovo & Chechnya)
Both countries lost sizable numbers of their people who were left outside their controlled territories
Both countries got sanctioned & isolated by the West.
Serbia is the only Yugoslav country that has remained outside NATO & EU. Russia hasn’t fully integrated into global economy
But Serbia does not have the economic & military power to play an alternative role or resist western pressure.
On the other hand, Russia is the biggest country in the world, has the 2nd largest army, a nuclear arsenal, oil and gas industry. And under Putin, Russia stabilized & played a more active role
I’ve commented here before, to a certain extent, in favor of Vučić.
Many ppl here speak the truth about there being no viable political opposition to him.
I had no problem with Vučić while him and his clique were mafia. All western power brokers are sociopaths, liars, thieves, perverts, etc. I honestly believed we needed one of our own who is like them to deal with them.
Vučić’s party, friends, and family were looting the country. Serbia, for a small piece of land, is such a rich country. There is so much to steal here, the Vučić mafia could have gone on looting for decades.
However, it is not enough. It is never enough. He has made promises to the west that he now must fulfill or risk the wrath of western spy agencies. Sorry, but western intelligence is an oxymoron. No such thing. He must sign off on independant state of kosovo. Otherwise, he risks losing power, and with the loss of power, him, his family, his cohorts, and big money backers will most certainly end up in prison. They have committed so many despicable crimes that there is no going back for Vučić.
Now, Vučić has morphed from mafia into a tyrant. An earlier comment sumned it up nicely – lockdown while only his propaganda was on tv, then hasty elections, and then immediately another lockdown. We Serbs are generally laid back and docile, so he thought he could push this scam and ban all protests against election fraud and kosovo independence. Well, we aren’t stupid and we see now that for his tyranny and treason, for him to preserve his shiny throne in his shiny Belgrade, he is willing to sacrifice who-knows-how-many lives to korona and even sell the country.
Going beyond the question of its spiritual significance, the recognition of indp. Kosovo will mean the final destruction of the state of Serbia. For, trough its recognition, Vučić will legitimize every other attemp at separatism, starting with Vojvodina in the north and Raška in the south. None of that matters, nor any Serbian lives. The only thing that matters is his shiny throne in his shiny Belgrade.
He has not yet invoked the anger of the most religious part of the populace. We still hope for peace. However, that hope is dying by the day. If Vučić politics do not change immediately, his shiny Belgrade will shine even brighter as it burns.
Plenty of targets in this city that can be incinerated without harming fellow Serbs, directly or indirectly.
Exactly. With the recognition of Kosovo* Serbia ceases to exist as a country.
Vucic and his zionazi LGTB cabinet need to go before is too late. I hope my brothers in Serbia and Montenegro go all the way this time and purge the fifth column with their supporting NGO’s terrorist scum out and begin from scratch building a new sovereign state. Of course, that would involve shutting down a few embassies and kicking them out for good, which makes things. a bit tricky, but hey, why hosting a bastion of thieves that only uses its diplomatic cover to undermine every bit of yours independence.
This piece has the hallmarks of a George Soros NGO trying to force a Color revolution. Johnny-On-The-Spot offers no evidence to back up its assertions, and the writing is far below the normal standards for the Vineyard. It’s long on emotion, missing any essential fact which could prove or disprove the writer’s allegations.
Let’s consider these allegations:
1. That Vučić was installed by Western intelligence agencies in 2012. That should be simple to show, if it’s true.
2. Vučić is a “tyrant”, has a “disturbed psyche”, a “mean streak”, is “megalomaniacal and delusional”, and has committed “moral turpitude”. But for some weird reason, “One feels sorry for the man, almost.” While it sounds comparable to a typical Democrat Party spin-doctor describing Trump, one is reminded that demonization of an elected leader is essential to a Color Revolution.
3. That the June 21st elections were “crudely falsified” 66% of the vote went to Vučić’s party, you say ? Whoa! Claiming fraudulent elections is key to Color Revolutions: Georgia in 2003, Ukraine in 2004, Kyrgyzstan in 2005, Belarus in 2006, and Iran in 2009. Without some proof of fraud, this bald assertion insults our intelligence.
4. No Color Revolution would be compleat without at least one death, if not hundreds. So we have some unidentified youth beaten to death, but … no details.
5. The tirade about the coronavirus lockdown is tiresome propaganda. “Nasty cat-and-mouse lockdown game” … “disciplinarian Vučić eagerly embraced the most restrictive, Chinese model for dealing with the pandemic.” Cut the crap. Please. China succeeded in fighting the pandemic, unlike many other nations. This China-bashing is tacked-on and looks like the usual Soros package of lies.
6. Vučić, already neck-deep in secretive negotiations to sign off on NATO-occupied Kosovo’s formal separation from Serbia, to use fraudulently acquired total control over parliament to amend the constitution to “legally” do just that. Finally we get to something that should be demonstrably true or not ! I don’t know, and I hope people on this site will come forward and comment – with hard evidence and context.
7. Huge crowds began to gather spontaneously in front of the Parliament building to express their boisterous disapproval of the tyrant’s plans. Spontaneously, you say ? Well, every other Color Revolution organized protests like that, too. An informed and impartial observer could discern the difference between paid actors and/or NPC’s, compared to the real thing. Johnny-On-The-Spot disqualifies himself with his over-the-top appeal to emotions. And of course, the police … pounced viciously on the protesters. He called them tontons macoutes. Really ? Myself, I doubt it, because de-legitimizing the police is another Soros hallmark. Recall the lies about those vicious Berkut at Maidan in 2014.
If I were being sarcastic – and I am trying to not be – the Belgrade replay of Tiananmen square could be considered a nice touch that shows the writer’s true colors.
Joaquin Flores, an American Ph.D. who has lived in Belgrade for over a decade, and editor at fort-russ.com, implies that parts of this protest are an attempted Color Revolution and in particular that the protesters in front of Parliament are backed by the American Deep State. His essay of July 10 is worth reading. Vučić Caught Between Coronavirus and Color Revolution Flores gave his analysis, but with little evidence. He spares us the emotional drama, unlike Johnny-On-The-Spot, unlike the BBC’s hysterical reporting of the (non-existent) sniper for the Green revolution (Tehran, 2009.)
I ask anyone with direct knowledge, please let us know what you know, or at least what you think you know. Give your sources and not so much your opinions, unless you are an eyewitness.
Cosimo,
I have read your linked article. I feel it misses the point about Vucic.
Vucic is a political creature similar to Macron: neither left nor right. This centrist “median” position, however, does not translate into a majority backing him.
(I’ll let you do the math but 66% of 30% voter turnout is not a majority.)
The political question is not whether politicians are left, right or centre, but rather whether they pro or anti empire.
These protests may not achieve any radical change, but they are important, as they have exposed the illegitimacy of the ruling caste and the recent sham election.
Vucic has become a lame duck president, thanks to the protesters, and the Serbian people have gained valuable time as any major decisions (eg Kosovo, EU) are likely to be delayed.
If you are laying about turnout, why would anybody believe anything you say.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Serbia
Uups wrong link, here is good one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Serbian_parliamentary_election
The 30% participation appeared in international media.
https://www.courrier-picard.fr/id93394/article/2020-06-21/serbie-scrutin-legislatif-dans-lombre-de-lhomme-fort-de-belgrade
CRTA Serbia was the source.
However, CRTA also has a different number on their website.
Go figure. All numbers are suspect at this stage.
Officially, the turnout was 49%. This number is not disputed by any overseeing agency that I am aware of.
What is the source for the claim that the turnout was 30% ?
Z,
I wrote it in my comment above in another thread: “The vote took place although voter participation is rumoured to have been not more 30%.
I will clarify my statement above:
’ll let you do the math but 66% of *rumoured* 30% voter turnout is not a majority.
Sorry for not using the “official” numbers but I find them highly suspect given how this whole election was organised.
In any case, it doesn’t change the gist of my argument. Even using “official” numbers, Vucic does not have majority support with the population, nor a strong mandate regarding issues such as EU or Kosovo.
Well, that’s not how democracy works.
Turnout around 50% is typical for any “normal” election (rumors notwithstanding). Winning over 60% in such a turnout is usually considered a landslide. Unless we are reinventing democracy, it’s safe to claim that Vucic does have majority support with the population.
PS: I wouldn’t worry about issues such as EU or Kosovo. Vucic doesn’t need a mandate for something he is not planing to do anyway.
The main question here is whether the elections were fraudulent, as Johnny Paid-On-The-Spot claims, and not the actual turn-out. Given the importance of these elections for Serbia, even a 50% turn-out seems to say voters didn’t like any of the candidates. Or did something else cause such a low turn-out ?
Cosimo,
B92 in english has a breakdown of voter turnout by hour:
https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2020&mm=06&dd=21&nav_id=108734
% refer to registered voters:
By 12h 18% had voted
By 13h it was 23%
By 14h it was 26%
The source for this was IPSOS Serbia, Cesid.
Most of the French speaking media reported 30% by afternoon. The source was CRTA.
https://www.courrier-picard.fr/id93394/article/2020-06-21/serbie-scrutin-legislatif-dans-lombre-de-lhomme-fort-de-belgrade
This 30% voter turnout number is circulating in Serbia as a rumour. It is a rumour because the final official tally was reported to be approx 50%.
The final official number implies that, contrary to the trend of the day, there was a sudden last minute surge of voter participation just before closing..
This surge is not impossible, however, put in context of the pandemic where it seems Covid numbers were manipated to allow a vote to take place, (which was basically a one-horse race since it was boycotted by the opposition) and all of a sudden there are rumours and doubts about this voter turnout.
These elections might seem important now in retrospect, but only because of the protests. When they were held back in June, there was really nothing special about them that would make the voters enthusiastic.
The ruling SNS party was expected to win handily, either on its own, or in coalition with its previous partner. The opposition was toying with the idea of boycott, but in the end they decided to participate. They were not expecting to win (or come even close), but there is a strong financial incentive for gaining a seat in the parliament. All in all, there was not much reason for enthusiasm among voters of either side.
Add to that the fact that we are in the middle of a pandemic, and low turnout numbers become perfectly understandable.
As for weather the elections were fraudulent, I believe it should be incumbent upon those making that claim to provide some evidence.
I feel the same about this article.
I also sense that the Serbian opposition would give anything for a couple of tens dead so that they would finally have some real terror to cry about.
I do not like Vucic for his flirting with the EU, declaring that he’s on the EU path and also for the farcical posse around him – so I don’ vote for him. But the fact is that he proved himself a more competent ruler than his predecessors (construction, infrastructure, GDP, income) as well as more cunning (manipulative of the media and having a non-stop political campaign) but far from terror.
The opposition keeps missing with it’s argumentation, loaded on pathetic emotions and accusations while not acknowledging the self evident truth of the quality of life improving (judging by construction, infrastructure, military expenditure, GDP and income). So since the cry of the opposition is “this is the worst time ever in Serbian history going back to stone age” is an obvious lie – the opposition discredits itself in the eyes of any lay person.
And also the China bashing is real suspect with the author of this article. People should dismiss this article out of hand as low fact buthurt propaganda.
Mr. Flores is right, this is not only about corona. This is about 50%+ unemployment for young people, almost as much for parents. Bitternes has been simmering for years. I believe corona induced lockdown was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Vucic was stupid enough to use horrific wording for restriction of movement “Policijski Cas” = “police hour” which came in use during WW2, introduced by germans. That is simply insulting for serbs. taht is whay parents are not preventing kids for protesting. It is tacit approval. people who dissagree with any deviation from government imposed thinking are mainly childless or pensioners. Thay stake in this is dfferent from youngsters and their parents.
Evidence?. Evidence is so hard to come upon in all casses political. Some current questions may have some explanation in the past. Warning, long text coming. My point was in the first paragraph. What folows is a kind of elaboration. if you feel tired, jsu skip it.
Is Vucic a foreign spy, installed by Western forces? Nobody have seen any document about that, nor secretly filmed video – no evdence, eh? Yet, it makes lots of sense to assume so. No president/premier in serbia was ‘elected’ without orders ‘from above’. Of course, no evidence for this, in forensic sense. However, each of them, including Milosevic had significant connections with foreign forces, which i assume is not so hidden.
The forces in power 2000-2012 were much more anti Serbian than Vucic. It is those forces that current ‘opposition’ represents. With Vucic, it is a bit different. In period 2000-2012, Vucic belonged to Radical party, very nationalistic, but somehow it resonated with voters – at least two times in thet period they won elections of some kind, and were forced by the west to yield actual power to – democrats or coalition of many smaller parties, easily manipulated by – democrats again (current oposition with close to zero followers). At some point, then leader of Radical party, Tomislav Nikolic (Vucic was second in command) decided (or was forced to) to change the policy – he became pro-western overnight. In few years, he was done, Vucic took power. apparently he still resonates with people – his followers at least vote. Everybody else can vote. Refusal to show up for vote is acceptance of the results. If opposition, even non-united, wanted him down, they could have mobilized their followers to go to vote and spoil the ballots. Those spoiled ballots do count. Yet, that did not happen. Hard to find evidence for this, but not doing so is evidence itself, isn’t it?
Since Radical party changed the tone, they were allowed to take power. Simple deduction. But that comes at cost – handlers from the shadow get to resume to pull the strings. All other ‘democtrtic’ leaders in Serbia were openly anti-russian and pro-west. Vucic at least sometimes makes impression that he tries to play both sides, west and Rrussia, hopefully for benefit of Serbia. Whenever he goes to Russia or China, dissatisfaction goes a notch down, and we go on, muddle through daily life. That perhaps explains appreciation losts of people show with their votes. Not too many, say 30% of the population, which is more than enough to win elections, since opposition does not have that strenght, especially when they do not vote.
Are Vucic and his government corrupted? Of course they are, no evidence needed. Again, pure deduction. Everybody in power in serbia was corrupted, beginning with Milos Obrenovic who in 2nd Serbian Uprising manipulated Ottoman sultans into giving him dynastical powers in serbia, which had side-effect of Serbia gradually becoming independent from Turkey. Gradual it was, it took from 1815. till 1867. His descendants ruled serbia until 1903, But there is a flag in ointment. in order to start 2nd uprising in 1815. He had to get rid of the leaader of 1st uprising, Karadjordje (Black george, Jorge Negro). Evidence that he was involved in the act is that he sent severed head of karadjordje to Istanbul on a platter as proof of his loyality. The insult to colelctive psyche was enormous, yet supressed inside. people clenched their teeth and life went on.
Karadjordje was a huge figure in Serbia, both psychologically and litterally. We can say that he made foundation for Milos to build upon, which resulted in Serbia liberated from Turkey, about 500 years after falling to Ottoman empire in 1389 – at Kosovo. At the moment, the act of assassination was considered a treason, and severed head on the platter, that was humiliating. In 1815 nobody knew that Milos would liberate Serbia, Whent it happened, treason and feeling of humiliation dod not dissapear.
In 1903. dynasty of Milos Obrenovic lost power. Aleksandar Obrenovic was assassinated. Payback for treason and humiliation?
Aleksandar Obrenovic was assassinated, not as much for political reasons (it could have been done much earlier), but for – corruption, unbearable corruption. That is how Petar I Karadjordjevic (grandson of Karadjordje) got the throne. It is not sure that he personally was involved in the coup, since he was called up after the assassination, to take over the power.
Peter the 1st. seems to be very liked by the people. Serbs were always divided somehow. At that time, flavour of the day was Obrenovic-Karadjordjevic rivalry. Peter the 1st was respected and appreciated by everybody, even then socialistts (later communists). He lead Serbia through horrors of WW1, and in 1918 passed the throne his son Aleksandar Karadjordjevic, ruler of Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians. That was second Aleksandar in serbian history, he was also assassinated, not by serbs, but the pattern emerges…
Corruption was rampant in that first Yugoslavia, in Serbia, Croatia, and Slovenia equally. Yet, he was not assassinated for corruption but for political reasons. in 1934, in France (Marseille?) he was assassinated in public, similar to the way Gavrilo Princip shot Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo. It was not Serbs who did it. some say it was Bulgarians with Croats, the same ones invited and received in brotherly embrace after WW1. The second Aleksandar was gone, not by serbian hand, as aresult of his own political miscalculations.
Some people feel and say that Alksandar Karadjordjevic planted the roots of horrors that happened in Yugoslavia ever since. He was offered by british to extend serbian borders way west, to encompass whole today’s Bosnia and Herzegovina and parts of Croatia (except Dalmatia and Adriatic coast, it went to italy after WW1, Tito wrestled Adriatic for Crats in WW2). Aleksandar refused, he wanted to unite slavic brothers, so he did. He invited Craotas and Slovenians as equals to the new country. For serbs it was unpleasant surprise, but they took it in stride. When he invited former Austrian officers (Croats and Bosnians) who fought Serbia in the WW1 and increased their oficer rank, that pissed off many Serbs. Serbian officer from WW1 were at once subordinated to the same enamy they fought for 4 years. Mind you, serbia lost 1/3 of entire population in WW1. theer was nota houshold in serbia which had not lost a few members, mostly men in their prime. That was the slaughter of serbs in Serbia. In WW2, croatian officers, most of them, turned the coat and sided with Germans – Independent State of Croatia, which proceeded with slaughter of serbs in Bosnia and Crotia. beside killing serbs en masse, they even managed to send a whole regiment to the Eastern front, to kill some russians, they wre orthodox as well.
That was another serious insult to Serbian psyche. Kingdom paid for that in WW2, years after Aleksandar’s death, when plenty of serbs sided with communists. There were other factors explaining communist takeover. Undisputable fact was that serbian individuls carried the war effort. Lots of them, perhaps enough to tick the scale at the end and Kingdom of Yugolavia is no more.
Therefore, everybody in power was corrupted (no need to even mentioned communists who ruled after WW2), so are Vucic and his government. Nothing new, no big deal. Serbs can bear lot’s of abuse and corruption, even when enough is enough. It is very different with insult and humiliation.
At this moment we have several copnditions for revolt:
– general feeling of no future, by itself that is bearable
– insulting insulting intelligence with anti corona measures,by itself it is bearable
– insulting and humiliating feelings about Kosovo, it has been bearable for 20 years niow
– hatred of any authorities, based on experience, as a constant, normally taken in stride
Any of these by itself could not trigger mass civil unrest. Even two or three would not be enough. But all four, at the same time. It seems that 4 is magic number, the treshold. see, even coup and color revolution in serbia are in part due to feeling of humiliation and insult brought by communists to huge part of serbians still feeling loyal to the King. sure, life under communists in Yugoslavia was rather good, for majority of people. All insults, humiliations, and corruptions were tolerated whilw life was good. human nature I guess. Serbs vote similar to Trum’s deplorables. No necessarily for the guy, rather against the other guy. That is how democracy won in Serbia, because of voting against somebody. It is easy to vote against tha guy, much more difficult to continue together after that.
Please not how police is not as rough as they could (and had been in the past). 4 conditions affect them as well.
Vucic just happened to be unlucky one that happened to be in power when the perfect storm hit.
We all know, and Vucic knows that opposition does not wish good to serbs. They did rather outrageus things in past few years, even criminal. Yet, authorities are not arresting them. Thay rather use them as excuse to cover their own corruption. Unless authorities forbid NGOs and start arresting criminals, they will get this situation. Vucic has done some good things, he still has a chance to start making things right.
When it becomes emotional, serbs may act very irrational,and do things in spite of common sense, self destructive. No organized force is needed. Small groups of vigilatntes may pop up, whack someone, and proudly go to the gallows.
Fear of western reaction? Unfounded I guess. Even letter from US ambasador was not to antii government and pro demonstrators. Maybe now is the time to wrestle some concessions from western powers, while thay are weak and busy in their own backyards? Just like Milos Obrenovic would do. Post Milosevic authorities have send “severed heads” to sultans in Hague, long time ago. And it was not Vucic. that’s why people still respect him to some extent – his hands are not thet bloddy as his predecessors.
God help us.
Thank you for your comment. It has lots of information.
If I’m not mistaken, the assassination of the king in 1934 was never fully resolved. A very important French politician, Louis Barthou, was by his side when the shooting started, and Barthou was also killed. I just checked Wikipedia, which says Barthou was killed from an 8mm French policeman’s revolver. Barthou was Prime Minister in 1913, Foreign Minister in 1934. He was one of the few French leaders trying to get a security pact with the USSR. His death effectively put an end to that. I always wondered if Barthou might have been a Deep State target, similar to the anti-war Socialist leader in 1914, Jean Jaurès.
Jaurès was the only French leader opposing WW1, the only force in France that could have prevented WW1. So his murder was huge, really huge. The French Deep State showed its hand. His killer confessed without compunction and, IIRC, didn’t even flee the scene. Nevertheless, the French state refused to prosecute him, but kept him in jail – safely away from angry mobs – for a few years before releasing him. In 1919, his widow filed a private prosecution, which failed to convict, and then the Deep State hit her with the bill for the legal fees.
The political background of the Marseille assassination was never truly investigated, true. King Alexander was the victim of the Macedonian terrorist organization VMRO-DPMNE, which had links with the Ustasha underground and, in turn, Italian fascists. It is well known in historiography that Alexander’s regime main foreign policy pillar was France, the traditional patron of Central and Southeastern European states during the interbellum. France was Serbia’s traditional ally, and in turn, relying on Paris was the means to counter the growing influence of the ever more aggressive Mussolini’s Italy and its territorial pretensions in Dalmatia.
Interestingly, the Croats and Italians were pitted against each other in Dalmatia, Istria, and Lika, these areas had a large Italian population and were thus the target of Italian irredentism. In the aftermath of WWI, the Italians advanced in Dalmatia, at that time not formally a part of Crotia, itself a constituent country of Austria-Hungary. The Italian advance in Dalmatia had been one of the primary reasons why the Croatian political leadership and intelligentsia opted to join Yugoslavia and the victorious Serbs, otherwise, they were facing the loss of significant chunks of Dalmatia on the Italians if they found themselves stranded on the side of the losers.
However, Mussolini’s fascists sponsored and sheltered the Croatian Ustasha movement which was hostile to Yugoslavia and sought to establish an independent Croatian state. Mussolini sheltered Ustasha emigres with the aim of using that at the opportune time to break up Yugoslavia.
With King Alexander’s murder in 1934, Yugoslavia had been permanently destabilized, devoid of a strong figure which would help mend the wounds of WWI and help bring together Yugoslavia’s various, ethnically and religiously heteregenous peoples. Needless to say, the Serbian leadership had been forced into wide concessions to the Croats in the second half of the 1930s.
The French were, of course, playing a double game, they didn’t intend to antagonize Mussolini over Yugoslavia in any case. I wouldn’t exclude the possibility of French intelligence somehow being involved in the murder.
Thanks whatif. I have now saved your reply as it is a perfect recount of facts. Thanks for this.
Thank you for the article which highlights only the last gasps of the once good country named Yugoslavia.
Serbia was not ‘ created’ to be a free country, it was violently carved out of Yugoslavia, same as Croatia was, to serve the interests of the elite of the world. In the 90ties.
Your president then Milosevic and Croatian Tudjman here refused the offer of the EU to join in the 2090, they both wanted war and pilfering the Bosnia.
Now we are all serfs as planned.
Read this to understand how the shocks like war, namely, are implemented to change the countries ( in our case from socialist Yugoslavia and ok to capitalist bunch of the little colonies now and miserable)
https://selforganizedseminar.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/naomi-klein-the-shock-doctrine.pdf
And this: To kill a nation, Michael Parenti,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=ApaMIJiOt-c
Thank you
Like Syria, never is enough for them to destroy the country…
@Azra No, it is Alija Izetbegovic who wanted war in Bosnia, Milosevic offered him a part of Serbia (Sandzak) with a muslim population to be joined with greater Bosnia as long as they remain within Yugoslavia, Bosnia Muslims representatives accepted the offer, but later Izetbegovic tore the agreement apart. Izetbegovic also agreed to another offer to have Bosnia independent but with Serb, Muslim and Croat cantons, Izetbegovic later tore this agreement apart too after he had a chat with US ambassador ZImmerman. Izetbegovic, the Muslim Brotherhood member, wanted a centralized Bosnia (and as written in his book Islamic Declaration he wanted an Islamic Bosnia according to Iranian model where there would be no room for Christians). Izetbegovic’ political party started to arm their members with weapons and explosives BEFORE the war, it is they who attacked the Yugoslav military, that is primarily how war in Bosnia started ( Also Croat attacks (from Croatia) within Bosnia against Serb civilians and Yugoslav forces played a role).
I’m sorry Azra, but it was Slovenia, Croatian President Franjo Tudjman and Bosnian Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic that illegally seceded from Yugoslavia. Milosevic repeatedly offered the highest political positions to the Bosnian Muslims (now Bosniaks) but Alija refused and sided with Croats effectively agreeing to be a pawn in the hands of West and Islamic extremists of Middle East which is not surprising considering his Islamic extremist past.
Also Serbia was never “violently carved out of Yugoslavia”. The Kingdom of Serbia in 1918 was the only political entity, read: a state, that brought in its statehood into the union of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (back then majority of Bosnian Muslims thought of themselves as Muslim Serbs). The Socialist Yugoslavia is just an iteration of that original Yugoslavia which means Serbia is still the only legal successor of Yugoslavia. No other state that was created out of the remains of Yugoslavia existed before 1990. I am sure that history will tell that what had happened to Yugoslavia was illegal and may as well deem the statelets created in the process illegal too. All the best.
Serbia is under pressure from western powers.
As it was the strongest republic of Yugoslavia, efforts were made to eliminate a potential Serbian re-emergence that could play an important role in southern Europe.
Therefore,
Serbia was bombed by NATO, Kosovo province was forcibly removed from Serbia & now is a NATO controlled protectorate.
Montenegro gained “independence” & joined NATO
Almost half of Bosnia has a Serbian majority but western powers would not allow its union with Serbia.
Neighbouring countries have also joined NATO EU or Eurozone….
A Serbian entry into EU will be a disaster too, as it would decimate local industry
Only solution is to remain sovereign, improve cooperation with Russia/Eurasian Union & try to unite with Bosnian Serb areas (all of the above are very difficult options to be implemented)
Also, i don’t see how Kosovo could ever be returned under Serbian control as it is a NATO controlled puppet state….
It’s a bit late to stop Vučić. The end of Serbia was foreordained the moment that they sold their last legitimate leader, Miloseviç, to NATO; it was an act of prostration and subjugation to the Empire. That Miloseviç was innocent was finally admitted, after he was safely dead (murdered?) by the so called court at the Hague, which as everyone should know by now is one hundred percent a NATO tool. So if even it exonerated Miloseviç he was so totally innocent that his own people cannot possibly have been unaware of it; and yet they sold him to NATO. It reminds me of the Russians who opposed the patriotic Soviet coup in 1991, cheering the vivisection of their own country in the ludicrous belief that the Yeltsinite regime would bring in an era of capitalist prosperity and the friendship of the west. The west has no friends, only victims. Nine years after the destruction of the USSR, the Serbs had no excuse to not know that. Now it’s far too late; the policies of their regimes over the last 21 years have removed any chance of recovering Kosovo. Saying “Kosovo je Srbija” is all very well, but it makes no difference on the ground, at all. Even if Vučić is overthrown, so what? Will his replacement do anything to get back Kosovo? Can he, assuming he even wants to? There has only been one successful slave revolution in history, after all: Haiti in 1805. And Haiti didn’t have a Napoleonic base like Camp Bondsteel to crush the slave revolution as far as I am aware.
To Johhny the author of the article,
I have left a comment, thank you for writing for us to understand what is going on in Serbia.
No info here just across the border, in Croatia.
I sort of feel that I sounded like an ass….hole, like read this and that..
It was not my intention.
I still think what I posted though, this is the continuation of the process which started in nineties last century. Ex Yu Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia , Macedonia going through the last rites…
Thank you for writing this article and bringing what is going on in Serbia.
Please read what I have posted, it is so humiliating that the techniques of destroying the countries have been so easily and efficiently applied to a remains of a country which we used to share.
Kindest regards
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From the Serbian Saker (Serbian only). Koribko would smell a color revolution if there was one afoot, though it’s obvious the pro-Western elements in the opposition and media attempted to hijack the protests two days ago, yet failed. Meanwhile, Jo Biden, who Vucic says he’s in good relations with, has told the Albanian media today the Kosovo negotiations must result in mutual recognition and respect of Serbia and Kosovo (sic) sovereignty.
A word about the elections, there is mounting evidence they have been falsified and were carried out in highly irregular conditions.
We report with sorrow that information was just received that the young man who was brutally gang beaten in Belgrade by Vučić’s Serbian police last night, as shown in the video, has passed away. The authorities are trying to hush up his death and have not released his name or any official admission of the circumstances in which he was murdered. We do not have any details, other than that by the time the ambulance brought him to the hospital he was dead. Also, information was just received that last night the police used military grade poison gases rather than regular tear gas to disperse the crowds. People exposed to these combat weapons whose use on civilians is prohibited by international conventions were losing consciousness and collapsing to the ground. The use of these illegal substances by the authorities was witnessed by French doctors who will document it
-Both these statements are not just incorrect, but downright lies. Not a single life was lost , thankfully, yet, and hopefully it will be so in the future. The very sinister allegation of ‘military grade poison gases’ is also a lie.There has been no mention of French doctors afterwards. Do these doctors have names and titles? How many were present, and with what purpose? What were they doing on street protests in Belgrade at the first place ? Where and when have these ‘poison gases’ been used exactly? How have they documented the alleged use of ‘military grade poison gases’, and in which way? If they HAVE, no doubt the so-called opposition would gladly immediately exploit these findings.
I wish to express my gratitude to Cosimo and Gorgeous George for rational analysis of the past events. On the other hand, how come the author ‘forgets’ to mention the number of injured policemen !? Some of them were stabbed in the area of the knee [not protected by riot equipment], and, one of them [two nights later] had both legs broken. According to data reported by Interior ministry after the second night, 48 protesters were injured, and 115 policemen [I’m quoting from memory]. Make your own conclusion about police brutality and peaceful protesters, as the author claims
Know, also, that provocateurs were present on both sides, and each side identified those on the opposite side without, of course, mentioning their own.
I also wish to thank my Serbian brethren for describing the situation [and the lady Serbian girl, of course] and explaining the details to those less initiated in proceedings.
Were the protests justified? Absolutely. Was there an election fraud? Most certainly – but I am somewhat older and wish to remind those younger people that ALL elections in Serbia from 1945 to date have been rigged, more or less, except those in 2000 when people ousted Milosevic by LEGAL means. Mind the emphasis. LEGAL means. What happened afterwards on October 5th and the assault on National Assembly building was the result of his refusal to acknowledge his defeat. These latest protests were an attempt at overthrow of legal government by ILLEGAL means [irrespective of how much many of us dislike present government, ruling party, their criminal politics -literally- and betrayal of national interests], and were without doubt IN PART organised and staged. As in all protests, approx one third of people come with GENUINE desire to express their disagreement, anger or revolt; the other third comes out of curiosity to observe the event and proceedings, and the last third consists of those who wish to break, destroy, pillage, burn and assault the police, real estate, overturn cars or whatever. Make no mistake, the last third was very much present on the streets of Belgrade these nights, the so-called [football] ‘fans’ and such, teenage kids , hooded, throwing the strongest firecrackers and large stones on the police who was trying to protect not Vucic, but state institutions, such as the very building of National Assembly and restore order on the streets. After all, protection of state institutions represents one of the main goals of police work in every country.
The Serbian problem, among many others, lies in the fact that it has no coherent political opposition to the present regime. It is completely disunited, with every leader [and many would-be leaders] wishing to be above the others’, many of them so vain that it defies description. They could not even agree on the subject of elections, to vote or not at all, as it was clear in advance that the results would be rigged [as Stalin put it so succintly: Ít is not important how people vote-what matters is who’s counting the votes’]. The ‘opposition’ has not put forward any coherent plan, it has not formed any ‘shadow government’ , all it did was either blame the regime [justifiably] or each other [ likewise], but they did not bother to offer any definite plan and programme to potential voters. It was no surprise that so many people abstained, me included, because I do not find ANY of those ‘leaders’ a man of such quality to deserve my vote: one is an immensely rich tycoon, the other former foreign minister known for his lavish life style with money obtained by ‘sponsors’ in hazy financial transactions, the third an actor known for his fondness of white powder and alcohol, foul language…et cetera, et cetera. Serbia is the very last item on their agenda; all they care about is their own precious selves.
To write that I am worried would be a gross understatement: on top of all that, there is pandemia to worry about…
Seeing this poor protester get beaten up by a multitude of policemen, I thought back to the wars in the Balkans in the early- and mid-1990’s. Back then, a modern, mechanized Western army controlled by the Serbs smashed & beat up two much smaller, disorganized, hastily-organized militias. Amazingly, the Serbian people supported this army’s actions. To these Serbs I would say, isn’t it time to say No to brutality & Yes to civilized, non-violent behaviour?
“Сарадник” са терена не преноси реалну ситуацију, већ увеличава обим протеста. Штета што је “сарадник” анониман. Приказивати ситуацију, као у овој “анализи” анонимног сарадника са терене не доприноси реалном приказивању ситуације белом свету. Мој енглески није довољно добар, па би ми требало сувише времена да напишем опширнији коментар. Ово је пренето на СТАЊУ СТВАРИ, али је мени Ацо од Смедерево, газда СТАЊА ускратио могућност коментарисања. Тако то изгледа у реалном животу. Склони смо, да нападамо оне који имају “власт”, а када се неки као појединци дочепају “власти” на нивоу сајт, исто се понашају.
translated from serbian via translate.yandex.com … mod
The “contributor” from the field does not convey the real situation, but perpetuates the scale of the protests. It’s a pity that the “employee” is anonymous. Displaying the situation, as in this “analysis” of an anonymous participant with a territory, does not contribute to a real representation of the situation in the white world. My English is not good enough, so it will take me too long to write a more extensive comment. This was passed to the state of Affairs, but for me ACO from Smederevo, the state of the boss was denied the ability to comment. Here’s how it looks in real life. We tend to attack those who have “power”, and when some, like people, welcome” power” at the site level, they behave the same way.