2016/03/26 10:30:01
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Hedges: “We Bomb Them, They Bomb Us”
Chris Hedges, Pulitzer prize winning journalist, discusses the Brussels Attacks – March 24, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zYeGc7Nrb0
Hedges: “We Bomb Them, They Bomb Us”
Reality: “The Parasites Bomb Them, the Parasites Bomb Us”
This is very true.
http://journal-neo.org/2016/03/26/president-trump-us-war-machine-rolls-on/
http://journal-neo.org/2016/03/20/a-mafia-don-with-a-pompadour/
Just a couple of articles about Trump. It is a testament to the hysteresis of the political process, that the Powers that Be couldn’t just find an empty suit with opposite polarity, and that would do the trick. Nope, we have a candidate with extra zing, who’s not from Washington, who makes deals. The new boss won’t be the old boss; institutional rot is holding ‘Merica back. Expect reform, expect theatrics (e.g. 9/11) — there doesn’t appear anyother way for things to go.
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http://bit.ly/1RqI1gH
this comment has been flagged as of little/no value (possibly troll) by the sakerLet’s finish the job: Burn down the Offal Office without further delay.
And the beat goes on: The Ruling group in Washington expects no great changes so Think outside the ballot box, folks. There are no good guys or even half-decent guys running for President.
from Fort Russ:
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/the-official-and-hidden-agenda-of.html
this comment has been flagged as of little/no value (possibly troll) by the sakerNow,as the Easter is here,I have something for all of You :
“In that dramatic scene on Calvary’s hill three men were crucified. We must never forget that all three were crucified for the same crime — the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thus fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment. Perhaps …the nation and the world are in dire need of creative extremists.” —Martin Luther King Jr
And now please watch this short and beautiful film and music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbU0xociGj8
I wish You a happy Easter and God bless !
“The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment.”
This is ludicrous in the extreme. If you had perfect love, foreknowledge and power you would not create in order to judge to hell the following day.
That would be the antithesis of love & goodness.
Happy holidays.
“… You would not create to judge to hell the following day”
There is nothing wrong with doing good things like creating a perfect creation in wich human beings have their own responsibility for their own actions and are perfectly able to keep the rules.
You want to prohibit god from doing good because human being do wrong, so you are going to give human beings the role of a victim and god is then the evil one? That is diabolic, and unjust, and wrong.
We have our own responsibility and god has his own, we did wrong not god, we changed not god, blame yourself not god.
It is the same as saying you are not allowed to have children because they might be disobedient, having children is not wrong, children being disobedient is wrong.
Having a hammer is not wrong killing someone with it is wrong.
You are are shifting the blame without any valid reason.
“There is nothing wrong with doing good things like creating a perfect creation in wich human beings have their own responsibility for their own actions”
There is when you already know (before you create them) that they will choose (whatever that means) the thing (no matter how petty it is – picking an apple for example) that you (in your all knowing “I am” pettiness) arbitrarily decide you don’t like (aka “sin”).
So, the deity knows the decision (aka the responsibility) the creature takes but decides on creation anyway and the eternal punishment it will then administer.
And you think this is not wrong? rather than being “good” the deity you describe is the sickest & vilest of the depraved. A rub of the hands, hmm, lets have some more eternal punishment today and maybe a bit more tomorrow…such fun.
“and are perfectly able to keep the rules.”
Ah! those petty rules again that are arbitrarily “good” just because “I am”…please.
“You want to prohibit god from doing good”
What “good” do you refer to?
Creation? that was certainly clever – hardly good.
Creation of sentient creatures, the highest of whom (humanity) were preknown to cause such (petty) offence to the deity that they would ultimately be cast to a lake of fire for ever – that’s a fine blueprint for a creation plan…not. All other creatures (lower sentient and sundry) also had the “foodchain” to look forward to or arbitrarily die due to the deity taking the hump over man’s sin.
“It is the same as saying you are not allowed to have children because they might be disobedient, having children is not wrong, children being disobedient is wrong.”
You place extraordinary constraints upon the deity you appear to admire to such an extent that you seem to hint the deity is not omnipotent at all:
Apparently, so we are led to believe, for those lucky enough to enter Heaven there is no more sorrow or death. Before death we are currently led to believe the only reason for mortality is due to sin. It therefore seems logical to imagine there is no sin in heaven since it is described as a place of perfection, of happiness and worship of the deity. We can assume that our beings there have been changed from before death capacity to sin to after death incapacity to sin.
Do you imagine the incapacity to sin after death as a problem for you? if not, why do imagine an original creation designed without the capacity for you to sin prior to death could be repugnant?
In essence, if god is omnipotent there was no requirement for the deity to design a creation which included sin in the original creation – “he” decided to do it for “his” own pleasure and called it “good” (whatever that means) . Of course, there would then have been no need for a method of redemption – so the preknown sacrifice of Jesus was, similarly, not required.
The blood & the suffering of creation must be laid squarely at the foot of the deity. We can be sure it’s self-description of omnibenevolence was a “Freudian slip”.
And you worship this?
Extraordinary.
Think.
Anonymous says “Creation? that was certainly clever – hardly good.”
How disingenuous, Mr Reincarnation of British Empire Admirer Francois Voltaire.
Hardly good? Au contraire. As your deadly philosophical and political adversary, Godfried Wilhelm Leibniz declared, “This is THE BEST(!!!!) of All Possible Worlds”.
How so? Well, for starters it provides unlimited opportunity for complainers like yourself to sit on your hands and bitch, bitch, bitch about the Work required to rise in consciousness.
Also, it provides vast opportunities for humor and lampooning and mockery for those whose appointed role is to chide such behavior, rather than join in with it.
You want to arrive at the Ultimate Destination without travel, earn the Ultimate Reward without Work? You crack me up! Hahahahahaha!
“No pain, no gain”, dude, or dudette! But that doesn’t mean you turn pain into your pleasure and wallow in it forever. That isn’t exactly advancing the task of creation becoming more conscious of itself.
You are over-thinking this matter, and going nowhere fast!
Think, Feel, ACT, Think, Feel, Act, Think, Feel, Act. Think better, Feel more deeply, Act more effectively…………
Like the half dozen cafe clients that acted in their own way to try to guide the panhandler Some Freak that wandered by our tables some time after your amusing complaints, ranting and complaining, and asking for answers. That’s your Soul Brother, dude! (or dudette).
“Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2015/march-web-only/what-you-probably-dont-know-about-least-of-these.html?start=3
BTW, I am not religious, as Saker is. I am a lot more into knowing, than believing. But I do recognize seeds of truth in many religions, and today is a day to give some thought to one individual who had a lot to do with providing an alternative, more potentially human way of being to that bestial model of masters and slaves provided by “Caesar” and the dark occultists controlling the controllers in the regions of the Roman Empire of his day.
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Doing good is never wrong period.
So for example: i should not report a rapist because he will try to kill me, that is your tune.
I refuse to give in to your deceptive reasoning, foreknowledge of others doing evil, can never be a reason to stop doing good, good has all the right to exist, regardless of all evil that comes against it.
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Had God created us evil or unable to keep his command, you might have a point, but now that god created us good and able to do his will, with a free will to obey and our own responsibility, we are responsible and to blame for our own evil thoughts, words and actions, and face the consequenses of them.
“but now that god created us good”
The best that can be said is that “He” created us with the capacity to be good (whatever that is) or evil (whatever that is). It’d probably be easier to leave it at: “god created us”.
If you consider a decision by a creature to disobey the arbitrary command of a deity to “not eat the apple” as “bad” then we will forever disagree.
The central point that you have not addressed is that the creation designer had a free will (assuming omnipotence) to not include evil in the initial creation but chose to do so. If you consider that decision as “good” then we will forever disagree.
Do those in Heaven have a “responsibility” to choose disobedience of “His” desire? apparently not. I repeat myself but there was no requirement for this responsibility to be provided in the first instance. The corollary is that (if “He” were also omnibenevolent) there was an overriding responsibility to “design in obedience” since we (& He) know “His” tantrum about disobedience.
If I had been given the opportunity to choose for/against my own creation before it occurred and at that point been told the rules of the game (i.e. “eat the apple” and you’re screwed ad infinitum) I would have chosen never to have existed since the character of this creator would have seemed appalling to me.
Now, since I was not provided this opportunity, I am in circumstances of creation facing the direst of circumstances wherein I find the nature of this deity as repugnant and facing a horrifying eternity.
Such a deity can be feared without limit. Loving such would be as sensible as being the partner of a Black Widow spider.
Think.
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
I take the word of god over your opinion.
God did not include evil in his creation he created us very good, perfectly able to do good and obey his commands, we are responsible for our own fall and sin against god.
God is free to do what he want and he wanted you to exist for his glory, who are you then to argue with your creator, being obedient there is joy, being disobedient there are consequences, stop hurting yourself you will lose it against god soon or later, better beg for mercy now and be reconciled by the sacrificed blood of jesus christ and glorifying God for his grace, than be thrown in the outer darkness, the eternal pain, fire of hell and glorifying gods righteous punishment and justice, one way or the other, god will have it his way and be glorified.
The doctrine of the final judgement notwithstanding, Christ in his earthly ministry did not judge:
In the narrative of the passion Christ himself sat at the seat where judgements were given, but remained silent.
“The doctrine of the final judgement notwithstanding, Christ in his earthly ministry did not judge”
But he does judge – we should not be concerned with timing glitches.
Again, we know there was no need to design a creation that included sin at all (an existence in Heaven – as described – is our proof). “He” made that decision with full foreknowledge of it’s horrendous consequences for “us” (most, at least).
Place blame where it belongs – with the system designer…the creator.
I was going to say go home and read some Nietzsche, but no, the rants and dialog of Ivan with Alyosha (Brothers Karamazov) are much better. Not that it will resolve anything, but it is literature. I agree that there is crap which is “baked into the system.” I must be the opposite of a Deist, I do not believe in a creator that is not a construct.
I’m not a Deist either. Most of this spiritual jousting is semantics. “Crap is baked into the system”???
How about “challenge” is designed into the system to allow the individual Will to exercise itself, and advance individual and aggregate consciousness???
Aren’t we working on that here? If not, WTF are we doing, just flapping our lips or teasing the keys on our keyboards???
There is an aggregate Vineyard consciousness. It has advanced quite a ways since the Saker had a thought to start a blog, no? How far will it go? That depends on much individual and collective will, or lack thereof, does it not? Which depends on the waxing or waning of the aggregate spirit which moves our thoughts and actions.
What examples do we have of other aggregate consciousness that we might draw strength from in order to more positively affect aggregate WORLD consciousness?
What examples do we have of other aggregate consciousness that we might better avoid in order to more positively affect aggregate WORLD consciousness? How about Kiev, Feb 2014 https://youtu.be/T6IbEIBhb8o Yanukovich lacks the consciousness to deploy anti-sniper teams. Nuland and co have the evil consciousness to deploy the snipers. The Kiev population is (in the aggregate) unconscious of what is happening to them.
On the other hand, by contrast, what about the aggregate consciousness in Crimea, only days later? https://youtu.be/t42-71RpRgI
Happy Easter!
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Thank you. Have a joyful Easter too.
Hey, Saker “Don’t Bogart Our Joint”.
If you don’t get the joke, your buddy Pepe Escobar might:
https://youtu.be/-N0IjBgyFoE the song, “Don’t Bogart That Joint” with pieces of the film “Easy Rider” with Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper and Jack Nicholson.
Stupid potheads riding motorcycles through the Confederacy with Yankee Stars and Stripes painted on the gas tanks. Dennis Hopper gives the finger to a couple of rednecks in a pickup truck, who swing around on the country road, catch up to Dennis, and blow him away with a shotgun blast.
Dennis would have been fine if the British Empire inspired Stars and Bars of the Confedarate States of America had been in evidence instead of that Damn Yankee symbology written all over those Easy Riders.
Other songs, besides “Don’t Bogart That Joint”:
The Pusher Man: https://youtu.be/3XqyGoE2Q4Y
Born to be Wild: https://youtu.be/rMbATaj7Il8
Not Exactly Easter Fare, I Know.
More like a devilish tale
Off the country (USA) going to haill, (redneck pronunciation of “hell”
With decades of help from Hollywood.
But the cultural warfare has to be understood.
What tangled webs we weave! Of course cannabis was old school medicine (Hildegard v. Bingen, Galen and many others) which was somehow twisted into an excuse for idiocy and arsehole behavior (High Times, C. and Chong and many others). It’s just another medicinal plant, Scarlet! The story of the mutilation of counterculture in the 70’s is an interesting one that has yet to be written, thanks for some leads. I think the Steppenwolf guy was politically astute than most (see below), and of course he didn’t write the movie. As I write, the Yaqui fireworks echo over the city in a festival they take very seriously, Happy Easter!
Steppenwolf, “Monster”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IA
IE USA I just erased a 15 minute answer on the counter culture, so it will have to wait for another time, because it’s getting late…………..
But with Easter Sunday approaching I am feeling penitent, so before I turn in, I’d like to apologize to Saker (or whoever arranges these venues and pictorial guests) for the bad joke about Bogie.
Look, any dude that can show up with Lauren Bacall on his arm ought to be seated at one of the outer tables with the best view, and be given free lattes and croissants. That’ll pay off big time with the extra clientele attracted and the quality of the social interaction increased. And guests, if you hang around town into the evening, you might run into that happy couple later at a club: https://youtu.be/mFfuUu5xmMA “How Little We Know” who we might meet at the Moveable Feast!
I enjoyed the Bogart/Bacall photo also, and am still digesting your very interesting comments above. There _is_ something very interesting going on here, and it has to do with consciousness, this is the only cafe bar on the net I would ever be comfortable in. My wife and I dyed Easter eggs with all natural dyes and it’s an art of its own. This holiday is special no matter how you take it, rebirth of nature and of humankind (I know the dates are different due to calendar, but the Yaquis have been setting off sonic booms here so… Would love to hear your thoughts on the 1960’s, I have a ton to say too even though I was born at the end of them. Skol, Brother.
IE USA, I used to go by another name here but I decided it was too pretentious, so I went anonymous and then let Dennis O’Leary rechristen me and baptize me into the Church of Dylan.
If you live anywhere near the Left Coast we might get together in an actual physical cafe and accelerate in some areas. TIme is short.
I take it by the way of your use of “Skol”, that there is apparently more common ground than you might be aware of: I spent 4-5 years with a bunch of square heads (No offense, but that’s what the US Citizens of Norwegian descent ….mostly captains or sons of captains of vessels, called the fisherman that flew in from Stavanger to Seattle (or directly to Dutch Harbor, to hop on a crab vessel for the Bering Sea King Crab season. “Ja, ja, Bering Sea vinter time!”
I’ll prove it, now that Easter is past: Squareheads (I’m sorry, Norwegians……) don’t swear with sexual or scatalogical profanity (that I ever heard…….) but rather with a quaint sort of spiritual imagery: “Nai, Fan i Helvete!!!” (No, the Devil in Hell!!!”)
I miss the Kumla (round potato dumplings about the size of a baseball, that turn grey…with salt pork inside….in a thick grey potato broth……weigh about as much as a cannon ball, and keep you going on deck for many hours….delayed energy release, because digesting them takes hours………. , salt herring, fish balls, and what do you call that yellowish dried cod that most Americans can’t even taste, let alone swallow????
All for now. For some reason I am not too comfortable with broadcasting my email all over the Universe, but PJA (Durrutti) did. Maybe he sees this and puts us both in touch? Or maybe not.
Did you catch Lauren at the club later that night? https://youtu.be/mFfuUu5xmMA I thought she was cooler than Bogie.
All for now. Hasta la vista!
Better Idea, Internal Exile USA: We can both email Saker to please email both of us with the others email or cc all in one email. Then, if you are east of the Rocky Mountains and we’ll never meet up, there’s the telephone!
Then we send Saker a donation.
I just sent Saker this idea by Email. I hope he’s not too busy/…………..
I will email him, great idea. Also would happily donate again for any reason. I miss talking on the phone, and I mean the Western Electric/ATT variety. Hopefully be in touch very soon! I think our conversations could go way off topic here and if the site were a bit different we’d be pm-ing already. Hasta la mañana!
The Saker has asked us to let the Cafe know that simpatico people wanting to get in touch with another simpatico poster just get in touch with the Saker the way Brother Anon did. All my very best to the Saker, Brother Anon, and the M. Feast Cafe denizens.
For those who are watching in horror and a sense of impending doom the state of the nuclear power plants ( 14) in the Ukraine
http://russia-insider.com/en/science-tech/toxic-south-ukraine-n-power-station-shut-down/ri13579
I want to rant and complain. The subject of my rant is not about modern politics, but about schools and education.
Some things just shouldn’t exist, and among these things are prisons and schools. About prisons — I came to the conclusion that they don’t ever rehabilitate anyone, they either traumatize people or make them even more hardened criminals. Schools, at best teach children and teens to memorize facts without teaching them to think, and at worst expose them to all the worst kinds of bullying. As far as prisons are concerned, I would rather have capital execution for most criminals, then have any prisons to exist whatsoever. And as far as the public education is concerned (which whould be banned with absolute prejudice), it should be replaced either with homeschooling, or with Internet, or both.
In the next paragraphs I will use the word “target” instead of the word “victim” because I think the word “victim” suggest an element of randomness, while in reality victims are chosen with cold-blooded calculation by their abusers.
As far as the money is concerned, my life is horrible, I’m unemployed, have a lot of unpaid bills for my home, really don’t want to get a job and not because I’m lazy, but because I am araid to become a target of bullying, and also a lot of people have better situations than I do, and guess why? Because they themselves are bullies, rather than targets, of bullying.
This “education” s**t needs to stop, it’s not the only problem in the world but it’s one of my least favorite problems.
I will stop now because I don’t want this comment to really be a rant, let’s instead have a discussion. Does any of you very good people (and I do mean “good”) have any questions, suggestions, advices, opinions? Anything? What should I do to have a zero chance to ever be bullied again, in any form — yet at the same time to not live without money?
I’d suggest that you get some sort of job, it will give you something to do every day. As far as bullying goes, I think we are all to varying degrees bullies or to use an outmoded term, sinners. Pray that Christ will unite your suffering with his on the cross.
You could use the following approach:
1. Take note of the misbehavior for a while (as long as you like).
2. Warn the bully of unpleasant consequences (if you want to be nice).
3. As an employee, inform your superior and require that action is taken.
4. If bullying continues, serve a physical response cold-blooded in front of his/her peer group (no talking then). Two unexpected slaps left/right coming from your heart should be fine. However, if he/she fights back, be ready to win (it’s not about fairness).
I am against capital punishment because it has proven ineffective time and again. It does neither stop nor reduce criminality and misbehavior. In fact, capital punishment applies a black/white scheme completely unsuitable to judge individuals according to their wrong-doing.
In Texas the prison system used to cost zero dollars. In fact, it made money.
This means that the average taxpayer did not have to fund the roughly $30-50K/year it takes to incarcerate people in “private” for profit prisons.
The Texas prison farm system even made food that public school children ate, which lowered costs for food in schools.
All of this was un-done by liberals who objected to trustees. Trustees were other prisoners who were willing to re-habilitate themselves and walk the narrow path. They worked for “the man” as a snitch against their fellow more violent prisoners. Ergo: Free labor and re-habilitation and economy in one system.
In-elastic markets belong to government or must be heavily regulated. Private for profit prisons are a perversion of law, where the idea is to take rents from the taxpayer. These sort of rent schemes add inefficiency to a country, hence the U.S. becomes unproductive.
The others who objected were farmers. Today we know that extraction industries, such as oil as well as the farm lobby wield disproportionate lobby power in Washington.
Washington in turn was centralized (un-federalized) with passage of 16’th and 17’th amendments, so once again it always cycles back to money power trying to host the law and usurp political power.
S. Freak, you’re like a self help panhandler showing up at a time warp cafe that exists in a completely political universe. The concern here is more for large groups of people, nations, and civilizations than it is for those complaining about their individual lot in life.
Well, OK some of the concerns you have are not totally individual. But the short answer is that unless the big picture (world political-economic condition) changes for the better soon, you stand about as much chance of making headway toward your personal goals as a swimmer does of swimming vertically up Niagara Falls.
Meanwhile you may have more potential for a fulfilling life than most US citizens, because your reaction to a bad education system is a healthy reaction and shows that you may be under slightly less mind control than most Americans. After all, the education system is designed to create certain “outcomes” (people submissive to “consensus” or whatever the billionaires and corporations deem to be most desirable in a dumbed down workforce, producing predictable profits for them………….i.e slavery.
However your suggestions for reform of the penal system are downright fascistic in that you would be executing a very large number of innocent people. You will need to work on that one some more, after meditating on the fact that, “There, but for the grace of God, goes I” .
Of course, any more personal advice is difficult to deliver to you, because any advice would have to take into account certain data which is lacking, such as your age, gender, qualifications, geographical location, etc.
But, in general, get out of mind control (No TV! No fast food poisoning! No New Age Bullsh*t! No Republic Democarat or liberal conservative Hegelian Dialectic mind traps!) as quickly as possible, and a world of possibilities should open up to you as your consciousness blossoms. Unless, of course, we here at the Vineyard of the Saker lose and you get toasted in a nuclear holocaust before you can even cancel your cable provider. There is that risk………….
Good luck!!
Guys, thank you all for answering at all!
even despite my comment not having much to do with the blog. Thinking about it again, I came to the conclusion that yes, it was too personal, and I sincerely apologize for that — by breaking some traditions of the site was because of me not understanding and not knowing them, NOT because of any ill will, such us knowingly breaking them.
Your replies are thought-provoking and honest.
I shouldn’t be only writing about my life exclusively, but instead phrase a comment/topic/suggestion for a topic roughly like this — what do we, regular people on the internet, most of who are neither millionaires or politicians, only regular people, can do to prevent, or at least downplay, processes like mass emigration to more developed countries, and poverty and low quality of life in our different countries?
I’m not an American citizen, instead I happen to be a Russian citizen, and honestly I thought it would inevitably show that I’m neither English or American, because my English is not perfect and that’s just a fact and there’s no denying that.
Brain drain from Russia and Ukraine to America and Europe may not even exist, but a lot of people say it does (already Feodor Dostoevsky in his “Diary of a Writer” wrote a lot about Russian nobility emigrating to France), and if it does in fact exist then I assume it’s because of corruption and poverty, and bad economic conditions, in Russia in general. And as for as the economy goes — the Saker himself writes about sanctions agains Russia, which, I guess, means that the economical situation is never only economical, but is also political…
As far as Russia is concerned, would you people say that so called “brain drain” is a bad thing? I think it probably isn’t considering we aren’t a totalitarian state like the Soviet Union probably was, which also means that those who emigrated can easily return at any moment.
If it’s a good thing, then why, and how can average people, non-politicians, encourage it? If it’s a bad thing, then why, and how can they stop it or at least slow it down?
I think these two problems are not disconnected – people who emigrate sometimes rant and rave about how polite people in their new country are, which, if true, actually explains a lot about Russia’s internal problems, which, in my opinion, can be summed up as “it has a lot of bullying (for a lot of a less emotional word) in it, and not by politicians or the police.”
Yesterday I watched a long interview with Igor Strelkov (a Russian who fought in Ukraine against the Kiev “government” and then for whatever reason had to leave) and he was speaking his mind about a possibility of a new revolution in Russia (which would be bad). Hearing this has impressed me deeply. For why would we be having a revolution, or even the emigration (which is a lot more soft and optimistic variant of a tragedy) if Russia has amazing quality of life, and no poverty?
Clearly, then, life is not amazing and economic inequalities do exist
(which in my opinion can be caused by the citizens disrespecting each other and hating each other, rather than only by the government’s mistakes, but it’s just an opinion).
However, I do agree that it’s something about which mostly nothing can be done, until the situation in general singificantly changes for the better.
Thank you all very much for your replies, they are helpful, but thought-provoking at the same time.
Well S Freak, if your’e Russian, I’m sorry I called you a panhandler, and forgot to use my pseudonym, ending up with the default Anonymous. But pardon my skepticism: I’ll believe it (that you are Russian) when I meet you. Your English is too good to easily swallow that idea.
Meanwhile we are in a spiritual war. Most evidence points to the individual accounts of spirit being in better condition among those residing in Russia than in the West. All else (materialism) is second to that reality. However, you do have a bright material future ahead of you (if you are Russian) and good defeats evil. Stay strong.
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Chris Hedges calls for a sustained international movement against international capitalism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-y6DEqPtqw
Please, Let me not hear sneers of “Trotskyism” from the usual suspects on this site.
If you borrow “credit” in Midland Texas, it forms numbers in two columns on a double entry ledger. If that credit is spent in Peoria, then it must find its way back to the issuing ledger. What comes from nothing must return to nothing. The mechanics of the ledger must be balanced.
Private banks used to issue their “rag money” and the power of this money type would diminish by geographic distance. Other independent banks in those days had to convert this credit to Treasury type money (Greenbacks) or to Gold/Silver. By linking up all the banks via reserve channels (Federal Reserve) this allows the private credit system to find balance. The credit issued in Midland, but spent in Peoria, can now find its way home to its debt ledger.
This credit scheme was invented, or at least got its impetus from stock market capital out of Amsterdam. These were Sepahardic Jews that followed their money farming schemes to Holland after the Portuguese broke the east/west mechanism.
If you don’t understand these sort of mechansims, then you will be prone to assume that Trotskyites or Zionists and the like are simple victims. When in fact, the opposite is true.. the money power has been a well-spring where rents are taken to fund psychopathy.
The East West Mechanism was Caravan trade where spices and gold moved from India and Silver moves eastward. An exchange rate between the metals was maintained to benefit the Haibaru Donkey Tribes. These Donkey tribes have bones buried outside the gates of Sumer, so this goes all the way back to the dawn of civilization.
Today, an international “illuminist” consortium of banks and tied finance along with international corporations is attempting to take over all politics and law. Why? Because they want their debt’s serviced. Their debt instruments and financial markets are demanding their “credit.”
But, the ratio of debt claims to credit in money supply is about 7:1 due to fraud buried within the mechanism. The underlying mathematics don’t work because it is a con-game of the highest order. This is non-trivial as prices and money control humanity, in the same way the water controls fish.
There is absolutely no question that our “in-group” tribal friends used the East West Mechanism, then used double entry credit to further their agenda at the expense of their hosts. So, when one points a finger at Trotsykyites and Bolsheviks, and somebody disagrees or takes umbrage, usually those in disagreement are ignorant of history, or are themselves putting up a smoke screen.
One cannot fix a problem unless one is willing to look at the truth of things head on.
An anti-jew agenda is not hate, it is saying “hey” we know what you are doing and you cannot be allowed to engage in further criminality. Humanity will not survive the future unless we deal with these sort of psychopathic control systems and their attendant wet ware ideas. If the Talmud codes for supremacy, which it does then nobody can argue otherwise. If a religion is used as a shield and cover for gang-like criminality, then it should be exposed.
Likewise, if Islam codes for supremacy, it also should come under condemnation.
All it takes for Evil to flourish is for decent men to do nothing. By blocking any sort of discussion about Jewish wetware (malware) thought concepts, you are blocking discussion. You become part of the problem by censoring speech.
International Illuminism is nothing more than “improving the world” with tikkun as a cover for international money to balance ledgers everywhere. A debt in Germany must be paid by Greek citizens, even if it had fraud at its base, etc.
AngloZionism is private bank credit and international markets. AngloZionism is international private banks and private corporations forming fascist control. AngloZionism is a usurious money system that has parasitized its host, even to the point where some self censor their thoughts and demand that of others.
Indeed, an excellent tirade against the Clintons (27:50+) and a small note about the EU support of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement (BDS Movement) against Israel (42:00) — and hopefully Saudi Arabia — is ominous, given the lecture was posted 8th March prior to the recent Belgium bombing of an Israeli controlled airport.
Chris hedges on the fall of america and bernie sanders 2016
Published on Feb 22, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEkuHy29rU
Assad says the liberation of Palmira would have been impossible without the support of Russia.
So the whole world owes thanks to Russia and Syria for the recovery of a world heritage city but then this expression of multi culturalism is unlikely to be forthcoming from the likes of the US State Dept. The NWO is busy making the NWC ( the New World Culture) based on a complete destruction of the old ones, perhaps replaced by a Disneyland representation of them.
Happy Easter to the Latinate Christians! Keep it real! Think outside the Ballot box
My 2 kopecks/cents with regard to the recent posts of The Saker on Europe:
The West’s sheeple, including those of Europe, had for a long time followed the path, outlined by Aldous Huxley when speaking at U.C. Berkeley in 1962:
— There will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it…
The sheeple had been made believe (with the help of powerful mind-control tools, developed by crazies from Tavistock Institute, CIA’s MK-ULTRA program, etc.) they were exceptional individuals, living in exceptional countries. And that they were entitled to life of enjoyment and relaxation. For ever and ever. Remember Paris ? – May, 1968:
– Proletarians of the world, enjoy yourselves!
– Everything and immediately!
– Alcohol kills: take LSD!
Many “experts” have been and are persuading us that the Paris uprising had been just a natural process, nothing more.
Could be. If we forget that the man, dethroned by the events’ aftershock, was the person, hated by the USA at the time – President de Gaulle. And that the seemingly relentless “natural process” petered out very soon afterwards.
The present-day European politicians learned the lesson: they are diligently following the path, showed by the AngloZio “Elite”.
While the sheeple “enjoy the life” at full throttle:
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53028d3ae4b016fa7cad0c7e/531a7f81e4b0b17f973ede84/531a8060e4b0c205411d1cec/1394245730766/IMG_2753.jpg?format=1000w
“Rainbow tribe” gathering in the “cradle of civilized world” (USA, New Mexico)
Many of the “civilized” sheeple ridicule the “savages” of the cargo-cult sect, waiting for the Heavens manna near the symbolic “plane”:
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/tumbalele/33296132/108610/108610_300.jpg
While in reality, the “civilized” bunch are doing the same, – painting asphalt in European capitals with colored chalks with the hope that the symbolic gesture shall make slave-drivers bring them their manna:
http://cs629117.vk.me/v629117177/3bb7b/81oKXe_73Pw.jpg
That is, – bread and circus, protection of their women against aggressive newcomers, observance of human rights, freedom of speech…
Take notice, please, that very few of the Brussels inhabitants have found courage even for this “cargo-cult” gesture. The rest were trembling with fear for their lives in their houses, as ordered by the slave-drivers of their concentration camp, which has been loosing its Huxley-style “painlessness” very rapidly.
Many of you noticed that the same had happened in Boston. Where the cops had no difficulty searching all the houses they wanted, and search their inhabitants, – with their hands up. Searching even young ladies, while the suspect was a young lad… Well, it seems that the line there was: cops should get rewards for their hard work…
My country, Russia, has fought too many wars and battles for the benefit of others. Getting no condolences or gratitude for the millions of lost lives, but insults, hypocrisy and aggression.
So, when hearing sometimes, at least in the blogosphere: «Россия придэ, порядок наведэ» (Russia shall come and bring order), we have to remind the outside world, – Europe included – that Russia calls on all countries to follow MAP (Mutually Assisted Prosperity) path instead of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) path. But following the MAP path would be very-very difficult, since it’ll be calling for a lot of patience and pain on behalf of all the fellow hikers:
… Our hearts are not connected to one another through harmony alone. They are, instead, linked deeply through their wounds. Pain linked to pain, fragility to fragility. There is no silence without a cry of grief, no forgiveness without bloodshed, no acceptance without a passage through acute loss (Haruki Murakami).
That’s why, dear fellow Earthlings, cargo cult practices/colored chalks alone shall not help. You shall need to have “your boots on the ground” to fight your own slave-drivers and their masters, – and the hell dogs unleashed by them (to fight them like Syrians are fighting those hell dogs now).
As for Russia, – she shall try to help in all ways feasible and practical. Where she can. Hoping that there shall not be a need for help from the Heavens, – Syrian style.
shed
I have rarely read something like you posted above.Thanks a lot
@ ioan on March 28, 2016 · at 11:01 am UTC
Thanks for attention, ioan
My country, Russia, has fought too many wars and battles for the benefit of others. Getting no condolences or gratitude for the millions of lost lives, but insults, hypocrisy and aggression.
Yes, I very much agree. I had relatives who fought and died for the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottomans and what do we get now in gratitude? Bulgaria as one of the most abject NATO vassals. Frankly, I did not use to make a difference between northerneastern Russians and southerwestern Russians (aka “Ukrainians”) but now I totally do NOT want to see young men from Tambov, Pskov, Saratov or Tula die to liberate the Ukraine from the Nazis. For our people in Crimea or Novorussia – yes, because they proved that they are Russian, but the “ancient Ukrs” – nope. Let them liberate themselves and they will find partners in us, but we sure ain’t gonna do the job again.
Under Nicholas I we tried our hand at policing Europe and under the Soviets we did it again. Now I say “let’s stay out” take begin by tackling our own, still numerous, problems.
Cheers!
The Saker
@ The Saker on March 29, 2016 • at 12:10 am UTC
“… but now I totally do NOT want to see young men from Tambov, Pskov, Saratov or Tula die to liberate the Ukraine from the Nazis. For our people in Crimea or Novorussia – yes, because they proved that they are Russian, but the “ancient Ukrs” – nope. Let them liberate themselves and they will find partners in us, but we sure ain’t gonna do the job again…”
Unfortunately, Russia shall have to fight, – willy-nilly. Not by using young conscripts, but through efforts of Kadyrov’s “foot soldiers” (acting as secret agents in ranks of terrorists), of Air & Space Forces’ pilots, of advisors, trainers… That is, – with the help of professional polite men in uniform, who had decided that “Nobody, but them” could defend our Motherland, Russia’s interests against Aggressors/Vampires.
Why so ? – Because for the World to survive, Earthlings need Real Law & Order. Not the one of the Uncle Sam\Global Cop variety. Where the Cop shoots from hip at anyone he dislikes. Or whose blood he craves for.
Because otherwise Russia and other countries would not have any chance to start tackling their own, still numerous, problems.
Since in that case Uncle Sam and his pack of hell dogs would try and try again to continue behaving in the style of the “Asbestos Man”, Doctor Kissinger in his (and the USA’s) days of glory. That is, – creating Chaos and destruction’s “bloodfield” (in contrast to “greenfield” of construction), and then going down to the Hell created – in the Hegemon’s “asbestos suit”. Not to turn the Hell into the promised Paradise of democracy and freedoms of all kind, but into a new reality, conforming to the interests of the Doctors “Evil” of the higher order, assisted by the smaller fry: Dr. Ewen Cameron, Milton Friedman, Dick Cheney…
The future team of the “Law & Order Keepers” would, most probably, consist of Uncle Vlad and Baba Xi with their friends, and would have the following functions:
– fire fighting and restricting the room for maneuver for Arsonists;
– helping victims of the Arsonists to resist the latter (provided the victims themselves were fully engaged in the activity).
The team could turn out to resemble two characters, well known to you, dear Saker :):.
http://www.privetsochi.ru/uploads/images/00/02/73/2010/12/16/2fe7b3.jpg
Дядя Степа милиционер – Dyadya Styopa
http://sheba.spb.ru/libra/img/aibolit.jpg
Доктор Айболит – Doctor “Good”
Да хранит нас всех Господь
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“Could be. If we forget that the man, dethroned by the events’ aftershock, was the person, hated by the USA at the time – President de Gaulle. And that the seemingly relentless “natural process” petered out very soon afterwards.”
The intellectual brains, the obedient servants of the overthrow of Charles de Gaulle, moved to Frankfurt, Germany, where they now support the Green Party, the EU and sexual deviations. One is Marcuse, but there are others, whose names I don’t remember. The former Zheck (sp?) president, Claus, was under attack when he showed a little independence. One member of the gang wants to make it legal to have sex with children. These men were, are, servants of the Empire. I haven’t studied them for years and have no links.
Joschka Fischer, who used to fight the police in support of Palestinians, showed his true colours when he became member of the German government and supported the cruel attack on former Yugoslavia. A Palestinian activist in my country turned out to have Jewish roots and worked for the secret police. I am not saying the Jews were in charge, they may have been “Hofjuden”, Jewish servants of the court. Their real masters always hide behind them, as they hide behind the US government.
68 was a colour revolution. The president of France, the strong man of Europe, was kicked out just like that. When the real elite can do something like that imagine how they must hate Vladimir Putin, who stands against it.
John Pilger, one of the few real journalists, wrote a poignant article a few days ago:
Angling for WW3: Why Is US Encircling Russia and China?
“What has happened to the great tradition of popular direct action, unfettered to parties? Where is the courage, the imagination and the commitment required to begin the long journey to a better, just and peaceful world? Where are the dissidents in art, film, the theatre, literature?
Where are those who will shatter the silence? Or do we wait until the first nuclear missile is fired?”
Other than here and a few, preciously few, other places where are they? It’s a reasonable question.
Asleep and indoctrinated? Bread & circuses?
Apologies, neglected the URL for above:
http://russia-insider.com/en/angling-ww3-why-us-encricling-russia-and-china/ri13527
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/03/22/start-of-a-new-world-war/
John Pilger’s site here.
http://johnpilger.com/
For a read up on the US operation in Syria, their unconventional warfare manual is a good start.
US special forces unconventional warfare 2010. PDF
https://wikispooks.com/w/images/5/5a/Special-forces-uw-tc-18-01.pdf
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“Israel urges its Citizens to leave Turkey ‘ASAP’ “
http://katehon.com/news/israel-urges-its-citizens-leave-turkey-asap
Could it be related to the, from the begining mentioned by some authors, Israeli support for the Kurds and the constitution of an independent Kurdistan in NorthEast Syria?
“Who has paid the Stones concert in Havana?”
http://www.elespiadigital.com/index.php/noticias/historico-de-noticias/12821-iquien-ha-pagado-el-concierto-de-los-stones-en-la-habana
In Spanish, try to translate it.
MUST READ!
This is the last paragraph of an article here:
http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/question-paid-rolling-stones-play-cuba/
UPDATE: Pamela (via Twitter) did some digging on our behalf and came up with this from The Curaçao Chronicle:
This entire event is being made possible by the benefaction of Fundashon Bon Intenshon on behalf of the island of Curaçao. Fundashon Bon Intenshon initiates and supports international charitable projects in the fields of education, athletics, cultural literacy, healthcare and tourism as well as other attempts to mitigate the impact of general poverty.
It is being promoted by AEG’s Concerts West and Musica Punto Zero who extend their gratitude for the support provided by the Institute of Cuban Music in bringing this event to the people of Cuba.
Thanks! That helps a lot. Interesting, though, that we haven’t heard more about this initative.
That the Mosul dam is built on geologically unstable ground is indisputable but I never quite know how to take F. William Engdahl:
Will Obama Murder One Million Iraqis Simply to Steal their Oil?
This line obviously grabbed my attention as it would anyone interested in 9/11:
“Were the dam to blow–or be blown, which I am told by experienced engineers would be very easy to do in a concealed demolition no one could trace—it would potentially change the entire dynamic of the long US war to control Middle East oil of Iraq and Syria”
http://journal-neo.org/2016/03/28/will-obama-murder-one-million-iraqis-simply-to-steal-their-oil/
Clearly there’d be no ethical constraint on the part of Neocons to ‘assist’ the dam’s destruction but would the Hegemon get away with the consequences?
An extremely interesting incident has come out of the UN yesterday. The commission at the UN that sets the “legal” boundaries of nations maritime claims of territory. Accepted as valid Argentina’s maritime claims to expanded borders. Those claims leave the Malvinas/Falkland Islands totally inside Argentine territory. The UK has announced they defy the UN ruling.It appears they consider themselves another “exceptional” nation that International Law doesn’t apply to. Their argument will rise the blood-pressure to a bursting point for anyone who for over two years now has listened to the vile filth they have dared to push out about Crimea rejoining Russia. Here was the ironic and disgusting statement the British have made. In seeing it ,let their words on Crimea jump into your mind: ” However a spokesperson for Downing Street downplayed the ruling.
“What’s important is what do the Falkland islanders themselves think? They’ve been clear that they want to remain an overseas territory of the UK and we will still support their right to determine their own future.”
“The British government says Falklands residents cannot be forced to accept Argentine sovereignty against their will.”
So to them it “oh so important what the less than 3,000 Malvinas/Falkland residents want. But not a damn about the wishes of the 2,500,000 people of Crimea”. And they believe those 3,000 can’t be “forced” to go under Argentine sovereignty. But they believe the 2,500,000 Crimean should be forced to go under Ukrainian fascist sovereignty. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. And if I was a reporter in Russia I would be screaming that to the World endlessly.This is a perfect informational tool to use in the information war going on. And I hope Russia realizes that and uses it.
Uncle Bob,
I wonder if the racist card is worth exploring here. The counter argument used would be that Russians do not constitute a unique race. The dictionary definition however is broader:
Race
1. A group of people identified as distinct from other groups because of supposed physical or genetic traits shared by the group. Most biologists and anthropologists do not recognize race as a biologically valid classification, in part because there is more genetic variation within groups than between them.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the Celtic race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
(1) dismisses itself, (2) is getting closer but is imprecise enough as it would include previously Soviet countries etc. as does (3)
(4) works though.
So should the UK government’s vitriolic attitude towards Russia be labelled ‘racist’ and would that work to counter their vicious propaganda? I am not sure that it would but it’s an avenue for discussion.
My post on RI, the MEF should also be of interest on this site, as it also reports of the war on Russia from the economic perspective:
Russia-Insider, is this a joke or what? You fail to report on one of the most important forums in Russia, the MEF (23-24.03.2016), which reports comprehensively and thoroughly on the status of the RF! It even has an English dub to every session! Insider? Many of your contributors and RI staff do a good job on reporting from an outsider POV – time to switch to experts living in Russia, who are not giving us the lib econ government bs lines. God da*** you won’t be a first class news outlet on Russia, if you miss important events like that (the German “telepolis” news site even reported on this event!)! Here is the link:
http://en.me-forum.ru/
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