2016/10/21 04:30:01
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WikiLeaks Teases ‘Surprise’ for Democrat Vice President Nominee Kaine
https://sputniknews.com/us/201610211046568271-wikileaks-surprise-tim-kaine/
“WikiLeaks said it could publish data linked to US Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine and Democratic National Committee (DNC) Interim Chair Donna Brazile.
We have a suprise in store for @TimKaine and @DonnaBrazile.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 20, 2016”
It wouldn’t have anything to do with a pet gerbil that went missing, would it?
sadly—is the writing on the wall for Assange?
Having written, the finger or hand of truth is moving on?
“The author is a licensed clinical psychologist and long-time human rights activist who lives and practices in New York City
Who would have thought it possible? Julian was such a fighter. He was so fast on his feet. He made me think of Muhammad Ali. The way he could “float like a butterfly” and “sting like a bee.”
Yet I never saw him get enraged. I never saw him lose control. No matter how savagely he was treated, he would always respond in a calm, rational way. “A splendid Judoka,” Putin would say. He was like Putin–so quietly brave.
See how I lapse into the past tense already? As though he’s dead. He’s not, they say. But his voice is gone. That voice that flowed like a clear mountain stream from a place of quiet self-confidence in him. That voice will not return.
In time– perhaps today– more likely after the election– another Julian Assange will be heard from. And he may have important things to say. We shall see.”
etc
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/silence-lamb/ri17123
Can we call International Rescue…a quick escape to the Russian Embassy with the tunnel digging machine the mole?
Seriously,getting asylum in an Embassy from a country in Latin America (except Cuba or Venezuela “maybe”) wasn’t the smartest idea. Now Ecuador has been great to him.But still,the “long reach” of the US was almost certain to come into play at some point.No country dependent in anyway on the US,can’t be blackmailed eventually.
The UN got blackmailed by Saudi Arabia over Yemen—they threatened to cut off aid to all the people they oppress and betray yet through duty as Muslims keep alive so the head of the UN was faced with a “lesser” evil choice: Back off on calling out the Saudi war on Yemen which kills thousands of children etc. or call out the Saudi’s criminal war and face consequent death of thousands of people dependent on their “charity”.
The moral choice of the times is presented as false choice Make no “lesser” evil choices which bind you even closer to the evil. …Evil is evil and evil is King of the Great Lie. That war needs to end and if the House of Saud falls, then charity needs to be found elsewhere for Palestinians, Iraqis. Maybe international banks by sanctioning can seize the funds the Saudis send to Daesh and divert them to charities throughout the region.
As for Ecuador…they made a tactical decision to try to survive in order to fight again another day. However, beware of the double cross a la Kaddafi).
Wikileaks can get the material out another way… carrier pidgeon? zip drives?
@ Uncle Bob
“Seriously,getting asylum in an Embassy from a country in Latin America”
And do you think he was in a situation of pick and choose? From memory, he and his supporters in London tried all potential sources of help but only Ecuador was forthcoming. Had he gone to the embassy of his own country (Australia) he would now be rotting in a US gaol. Isn’t that shocking – the realisation that your own state (who has the duty to protect its citizens) would be the first to betray you and its duty?
Could Trump Be Right Just This Once? US Voters Concerned Over Election Fraud
https://sputniknews.com/us/201610211046568599-trump-election-fraud-poll/
“Donald Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, recently claimed that the 2016 election is being rigged against him. According to a recent poll conducted jointly by The Economist and YouGov, the mogul is not the only one concerned about the possibility.
The poll, conducted among 1,300 US citizens of voting age, revealed that Trump’s fellow Republicans are much more mistrustful of the government’s handling of the voting process than are Democrats. Answering the questionnaire, 64 percent of Republicans agreed that they were very concerned about fraudulent ballots being cast. Only 26 percent of Democratic poll participants shared those concerns, and 31 percent had no fear of election fraud at all, as opposed to just 5 percent of Republicans expressing confidence in the process.
According to the survey, 72 percent of respondents, irrespective of their parties, are very or somewhat concerned about the security of the voting system, while 21 percent see no reason for concert.”
So far so good, right,? Think again, the zionazis are on this too.
“The poll results could possibly reflect recent accusations by Washington against Russia for “authorizing” the DNC hack, and “meddling” in the upcoming US election. At least two out of five of those surveyed, or 42 percent, agreed with the statement that Russia has attempted to interfere in the upcoming presidential election.
Anatoly Lebedev, Deputy Head of the Information Security Department of Bauman Moscow State Technical University, facetiously referred to the accusations as a “winning move.” He told Sputnik on Monday that it would have been a “serious blunder” by policy-makers in Washington to not exploit the improbable fear of Russia in the upcoming US elections, considering the tense relations between the two countries.”
The level and amount of psychological butt rape in pindoland never ceases to amaze. Didn’t the neanderthals become extinct? Election fraud in the usa, sure as long as it was Putin who is behind it.
Redacted Tonight on RT had an interview with Bob Fitrakis, who is suing the Democratic Party for rampant systemic election fraud against Bernie Sanders. It is well documented. I am pretty shocked but not surprised that a majority of Democrats seem to have forgotten what went on, just 3 months ago.
While I have serious doubts about Trump and see Jill Stein as the only candidate with an honest well thought out plan, he does have it right about getting along better with Russia and pointed out during the primaries that the election was rigged against Sanders.
You can bet it will be rigged against Trump.
It appears to me that the people backing Clinton have a collective death wish for the whole world, including themselves, though they think they can avoid it. Very similar to Hitler’s vainglorious battle against the Untermenschen, forgetting what makes Russia and the Russian people what they are. Add in the Valhalla version of extremism that glamorizes mass death, and you have a very toxic situation.
“It appears to me that the people backing Clinton have a collective death wish for the whole world, including themselves, though they think they can avoid it.”
Its really not even that.I kid you not,when I say it isn’t even thought about by most Americans.On my Social Media accounts I have “friends” from the US on one hand. And many friends from various countries Worldwide on the other hand.A few of the Americans post comments about the election on one or the other candidate (the most common sentiment seems to be “a pox on both your houses”).And a very tiny number, every once and a while post about Russia or the Wars. Probably 80% -90% only post on personal matters.While my foreign friends post 80%-90% post on matters of war and peace. Pretty much similar to what we do here.Its “two” separate worlds.The press here never really tries to “inform the public” on important matters.Unless its with the Western viewpoint.
In the moment:
Trump Skewers Hillary at Catholic Fundraiser
Nigel Farage Warns America
Trump’s Proposals for Ethics Reform
Ah, the rain has come to the cafe, just as it has finally come to my Pacific Northwest. I should feel right at home in this cafe, as we try to stop the war on my “cousins” in Russia (my Swedish ancestors came from just South of where the Viking component of the Kievan Rus came from; some went East, later some went West.)
Hello all, do you mind if I sit down for a bit, my feet are killing me? Long black with one thanks. This place seems a bit run down, but the company looks interesting. The Chestnut Tree Café, sounds familiar. Too early for a scotch? No such thing, good people. Don’t mind me, this is my first time here, I might just lean back on my chair and take it in for a bit.
So, we are saving the world are we, where to start? Politics is it, hmm, been there and tried that; pissing into the wind gets my boots wet. Excuse me, am I now or have I ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States, well buy me a few drinks first and I might tell you.
Well the hour is late my new friends, hail and well met. Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
… i hope we do not die tomorrow… i have not yet seen the first Russian, western migrating swans on the lake here on the isle of Europe’s last collapsing civilizational outpost They have settled after their long flight from the east, very early to arrive – a long and bitter winter lies ahead?in Russia, there is a saying, ‘the swan brings snow on its bill’, as they tend to move just ahead of the cold weather.
i will you buy another coffee so you will tell us whether you were ever a communist in the US or USSR . . .
waiter, a bag of hot roasted chestnuts and two black coffees, one white, one black . . .
Hi Bleary Owl,
Sorry, never a communist, but I was a member of the Greens SA (South Australia) for five years. That saying is confronting, but it both reminds us to live every day like your last, while also to enjoy the simple pleasures.
Civilisational outposts, yes is does feel like that. Reminds me of Asimov’s Foundation series, people who predict the collapse of the Galactic Empire build arks as points where civilisation might re-emerge. We need to start thinking what comes after the collapse of the West.
Good to meet you Bleary Owl.
The snow geese of Siberia, primarily from Wrangel Island, come and winter here where I live, but I haven’t seen any of them yet. Maybe I haven’t been out in the country enough. Amazing, the creatures of the wild pay no attention to man’s politics and wars. Siberia, US, South America, Russian East, European West…
Hi kinterra, in case you missed my reply and wished for further dialogue – see here
/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-10-17/comment-page-1/#comment-286370
My whole long reply to you has been lost twice now. I will try again tomorrow.
K
Ok kinterra, thanks.
PS: I sometimes copy long posts to the Windows clipboard and save as a text file to the desktop overnight if the post has not appeared online.
Greetings finally Anony,
Odd how my responses to you have failed. I sent one message that never came through. The second time the text vanished before I sent. Yes- good plan to write off line and copy onto here.
You ask interesting questions- the kind of thoughts I have long contemplated and like to converse about. That said, I presume no authority- just a friend along the path. I reread your post, and noted the two specific questions. But, I think the essence of your post is that you are angry at God. I’m sure we all find ourselves tied up in that knot. I have felt very angry towards God at times in my life. Happily, I have come to stop blaming God for things that are human problems and accept the unfathomable, all merciful, loving, eternally beneficent essence and source of the Creation who (neither male nor female, i.e. undivided in any way), unceasingly bestows only love, mercy, forgiveness, blessing, grace, and compassion upon the whole creation. This love is never withheld from us. The spiritual heart is the organ to receive it. If we are not feeling it, it is we who have distanced ourselves, and it is our toil to regain it.
The awakening of the spiritual heart is a very intimate internal change- an increasingly awareness of one’s own heart as an inner dwelling place of God’s Spirit. Nothing outside of us can cause this to occur, unless you were blessed with a kind of Damascus event. All true religions teach a way of return to this inner sense of connection. But religion like everything else has degenerated, so I believe we have each to find our own path now. The beauty of this is that we can reap truths from all teachings. This individual seeking is referred to as the Quest for the Holy Grail- the search for the hidden source of the elixir of life.
The awakening comes as result of the rapport between one’s own effort, (toil), to return to God, and the blessing of grace, which fructifies the yearning heart like rain and sun cause the green to spring forth from the earth.
It seems that the term sin just refers to the free choices we make that are not in accordance with our conscience, our inner compass needle that always aligns with Truth and Goodness. We have free will and can choose what we do, what we think, and what we feel. When preoccupied with a will to power and control, greed, hatred, envy or what ever, we have separated from that inner felling of the benevolent source of being. Degenerate forms of Christianity, and other religions, have used fear, damnation, and sin to control and manipulate people. But just as our inner sense of Truth has led us to throw off the indoctrination of the propaganda and instituted lies of the false ‘government’, our heart compass knows the false prophets from the true voice of the Love.
Enough!
K
Thanks kinterra.
You said:
“But, I think the essence of your post is that you are angry at God”
Partially kinterra, but not predominantly.
This is summary – to believe we (or I) “popped out of nowhere” is beyond fiction for me. However, having examined the Christian God in light of that (alleged) deities self description of omnipotence, omniscience & omnibenevolence but yet Evil exists (logical contradiction as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil) means I consider that deity as a construct, nearly certainly, a wholly man made fabrication.
Having said that I do entertain the (slight) possibility that the Chritian God is the real deity. Since, for me, the logical contradiction of evil is blatantly apparent I am not angry at God – rather, I hate God for the design and implementation of a flawed creation when a perfect canvas, not lacking creativity and joy for the created was purely a choice the deity decided against – the “free will” you refer to is already massively constrained by design.
You said:
“All true religions teach a way of return to this inner sense of connection.
I have no detailed knowledge of religions other than Christianity but am reminded of this:
Exodus 20:3-5King James Version (KJV)
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
So, if the Christian God is omnipotent then the deities of the other religions you refer to are an obomination to that deity, no?
You said:
“But just as our inner sense of Truth has led us to throw off the indoctrination of the propaganda and instituted lies of the false ‘government’, our heart compass knows the false prophets from the true voice of the Love. “
It seems to me the Christian God is just another indoctrination/propaganda since the logical contradiction remains unexplained. What is the truth? I speculate internally a lot but do not know.
Anyway – I appreciate your comments and it has been nice speaking to you.
You are most welcome Anony, and thanks to you as well.
We did not solve all the mysteries, but we did arrive again at the door in and out of the labyrinth, which is: “the logical contradiction remains unexplained.”
So let’s give logic a different job- something it is really good at – like fixing the leaky pipes under the sink or booking an airplane ticket somewhere exciting that the eternal child heart would really like to visit.
Here is a poem for Hafiz- and a toast to your journey.
If you were planning to move to a foreign
country and thought you might never return
would it not then be prudent to acclimate
yourself to any custom they might have
of say…drinking one certain liquid
and nothing else?
Then, dears, run to the wineshop run.
For in heaven what can increase your soul’s
expanse is all that is ever served.
Cheers, k
kinterra
I am waiting too for your long comment to Anonymous. Try to not lost it again…cause outside is rain, better take an umbrella and make happy your fella. And of course me too, till the sky gets blue.
Greetings Dear ioan,
I’ve been tracking your poems and comments in this rainy day cafe. You are the ever cordial maitre’d, stopping in to chat at every table.
A Michaelic warrior spirit sounds throughout this saker blog and cafe. A rare, and for me vital, camaraderie not found in my local hometown cafe- that agony of arrogant lukewarm neoliberal dullness spellbound under chipper starbuck slogans and swallowing whole the poison apple bites- a tedious torture chamber for any wakeful soul.
This is a thriving atmosphere. I don’t mind the banter and feel charged by opposing points of view- helps me to sharpen my two-edged sword, which must speak both for the truth and against the evil.
k
“helps me to sharpen my two-edged sword, which must speak both for the truth and against the evil.”
Since you have been unable to address the logical problem of evil your opinion of faith may be the truth but you have no basis on which to speak against evil.
au contraire
I have devoted much of my forces to overcoming the evil within myself, enabling me to recognize and name the evil without.
k
well, yesterday a friend said after the rain comes the sun…..but meanwhile we pound the mainstreet of something somewhere but certainly not paved with gold trying to find all that is meaningful: alone, wondering if there is something or someone out there…….maybe a cafe in a side street or at the end of the road, with symbolic treasure within.Maybe.
JJ have no care
and never despair
for the suns light
shines just as bright
everywhere, and here,
though for some it is night
and for others the day
ever the light of the sun
in the moveable cafe is won
Appreciated…….!
I woke at 3:30 am, refreshed.
Like a city sidewalk after a good shower.
Where am I, in Budapesht?
Cafes are open there, even at this hour!
I don’t feel like Fats Domino: “Ain’t that a shame, my tears came down like rain.”
Too personal, self-pitying.
Ray Charles is a little closer, more global strategic: “I feel like it’s rainin’ all over the world.”
But this ain’t a Rainy Night in Georgia: https://youtu.be/WFatAWbKow4
Sorry, Miles. Gotta go with Zimmerman. You and Leary argue it out over in a corner, will you? I’ll be listening, with intense interest, through the pitter patter on the roof, hoping it doesn’t turn into a hard clatter, all over the world:
A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall
Bob Dylan
Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
And where have you been my darling young one?
I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I’ve walked and I’ve crawled on six crooked highways
I’ve stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
I’ve been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
I’ve been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
Oh, what did you see, my blue eyed son?
And what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin’
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin’
I saw a white ladder all covered with water
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you hear, my darling young one?
I heard the sound of a thunder that roared out a warnin’
I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin’
I heard ten thousand whisperin’ and nobody listenin’
I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin’
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
Oh, what did you meet my blue-eyed son ?
Who did you meet, my darling young one?
I met a young child beside a dead pony
I met a white man who walked a black dog
I met a young woman whose body was burning
I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow
I met one man who was wounded in love
I met another man who was wounded in hatred
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
And what’ll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
And what’ll you do now my darling young one?
I’m a-goin’ back out ‘fore the rain starts a-fallin’
I’ll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest
Where the people are a many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
And the executioner’s face is always well hidden
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten
Where black is the color, where none is the number
And I’ll tell and speak it and think it and breathe it
And reflect from the mountain so all souls can see it
And I’ll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin’
But I’ll know my song well before I start singing
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
https://youtu.be/-ex-m-eEKsg Live at Town Hall, 1963
only the dead could have known
Zimmermann had an ear
on the dead’s mouth
so dead poetry is resonating
and the God is recognized
in the realm of the living circle
Yestarday theer was article on RT about Belgian F16s bombed a village close to Alepo, poff on russian and syrian radars, Belgian government denying it, and so on. The same thing on Tass. This morning, there is still an article on TASS, nothing on RT. Everybody else – silence – Sputnik, Saker, Fort Rus, South Front – nothing. What is going on?
This morning on TASS.ru http://tass.com/politics/907950
Alegedly, belgians flew from Jordan, all the way to Alepo, refueled in the air modway. They flew over teritory clearly covered by S-300/400 and they were undetected? What is going on?
Zidar, I was wondering about that too.. very curious incident, and no-one is covering it.
They were detected, that’s why there is a detailed report about it.
They are not a threat to Russian or Syrian troops. That’s when the S400s would be turn on them.
Same with all the US coalition planes. The Russians know about them ahead of time and/or track them.
If you expect Russia to shoot down NATO planes, you have come to the wrong war.
They will if attacked. Otherwise, Russia has decided since Oct. 2015 that the airspace will be shared if not coordinated.
Yes but these planes DID attack. They bombed a kurdish village in N. Syria. Mercouris now has an article about it in the Duran.
Link to the Mercouris piece in Duran: http://theduran.com/russia-has-proof-vladimir-putin-threatens-to-publish-details-of-secret-nato-belgian-bombing-raids-in-syria/
Syria has announced it will shoot down any Turkish planed flying without their permission .
I think it was Rus giving them 1 warning and embaressing the **** out of Belgium…hope so.
maybe Syria announcing will shoot down unapproved Turkish planes will mistake a Belgian plane for one of those–oops.
both Latvia and estonia getting very russiphobic
Russia today journo expelled from Latvia, estonia calling? for ban on russian channels-media
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201610211046585947-sputnik-threat-estonia-condemnation/
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201610211046585970-latvia-deporting-rossiya-segodnya-employee/
MOSCOW, October 21. /TASS/. Chairman of Russia’s Federation Council (upper house of parliament) International Affairs Committee Konstantin Kosachev described comments by EU President, Donald Tusk, about supposed threats coming from Moscow as Russophobic scaremongering.
“Tusk said after the first day of the EU summit in Brussels that Russia’s strategy is to weaken the EU,” the senator wrote on his Facebook page. “This statement is on his conscience, and it is traditional anti-Russian hysteria like ‘the Russians are coming!’ I just hope no one will jump out of the window.”
According to Kosachev, the EU is trying to assume exclusive rights in security and defense policy in Europe failing to recognize the interests of the non-associated European countries. Meanwhile, the task of responsible politicians is to acknowledge this equality of the parties and tackle the issue of their differently directed activities.
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“This is both the intellectual and moral challenge that EU senior officials have been unable to cope with so far,” the senator noted.
Tusk earlier asserted at the EU summit that Russia’s strategy is to weaken the European Union. He added that the EU is always ready to engage in dialogue with Russia but will never compromise on its values or principles. The EU president also informed that its leaders discussed the situation in Syria and strongly condemned “the attacks by the Syrian regime and its allies, notably Russia, on civilians in Aleppo.” However, he made no mention of the possibility of imposing sanctions against Russia over Syria.
More:
http://tass.com/politics/907857
We spent yesterday in the car. Driving about six hours around central California, we watched for bumper stickers. Previously elections have shown signs and flags all over, yesterday we saw three for Sanders, two Trump stickers, and none for Hillary. We saw many thousand cars.
Apparently ABC had an online poll after the last debate. Before it was removed, the totals were:
Trump 75%
Stein 15%
Clinton 5%.
At a second hand store I asked the five 40+ women if they’d ever heard of Porfirio Diaz. None had. I said in his thirty years as Mexican’s leader, thousands, maybe tens of thousands disappeared, yet he was never charged with a crime. No problem, right?
That was the first time in this election cycle I’ve been able to leave a democrat speechless.
In My area of Orange County Ca. I see only local and congressional campaign posters at intersections and lawn signs.
Except for a handmade sign in a center median which said “No Hillary”.
In New England, which is supposedly about as pro-Hillary as it gets, Trump bumper stickers outnumber Bernie bumper stickers which in turn outnumber Hillary bumper stickers. Pro-Trump lawn signs in Massachusetts and New Hampshire are much more prevalent than Hillary signs. Hillary lawn signs seem more in evidence in affluent areas with Trump more so in working class cities and towns. One might conclude that Trump supporters are much more enthusiastic about their candidate than are supporters of Hillary. However, many people seem to be sick and tired of the entire election process and can’t stand either Hillary or Trump.
Morality
Her man is a champion in giving
The most famous oral teaching
For young and very meaty
Learning secretary beauty
Back then she met with his meat
In exchange for scandal and split
The man of pride and moral
Was great in teaching oral
Now in shadow of his former sex
His wife comes up as a death hex
With famous words and lot of pride
“We came, we saw, he died…”
I watched this youtube video tranlsated by Inessa S where Putin explains how the west uses him to gain political points in the USA election campaign. It is quite interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnqx6PYLqoQ
I always try to find clues in there. At one point the president tells us that american diplomats whisper in his ear that everything will be fine after the elections. Since they dont know how to fix the problems of the economy, apparently, the strategy is to blame Russia. The thing that irritates me is that both sides do it. Putin does not mince words with regard to his american “friends“ as he calls them.
All I can say is that I wish I could create a place just for them to keep playing their silly games. I wonder how long they would keep playing it if they were left alone. Without everyone hanging on their every word.
Given that you are clearly equating Russia and Putin with America and Regime, and would like to sent them both to a place where they can both “play their silly games” I would really like to hear what you advocate Putin and Russia should do / say in the face of the tsunami of threats and bile pouring their way from America?
What do you think might be the case were you to just lock America in it’s “quiet room” for a while?
It’s certainly something the rest of the world goes to bed praying for every night
Excellent question. What I would do? I would blow the 9-11 false flag wide open. I would conduct a complete investigation and leak it in the media. I would not stop until I expose those criminals on every front. Like what is going on in Syria with the western support for the terrorist made obvious to everyone.
Also, I would protect Russia against private central bankers and expose them. Those guys are profiteers of the worst kind. When they charge interest on the money supply of a country, that is criminal. No wonder america is bankrupt.
Except that I am not Putin and it is wrong for me to tell him what to do. I just hope people will ask the tough questions. Exactly like you have done with me. Except that I dont have all the answers.
You’d leak it to the media? Really? And what if the media labels you, as they are ordered, a conspiracy theorist and just ignores you -as they certainly will?
Other than identifying the precise criminals, everything in your first paragraph has already been done.
So Putin wants the west to question their leaders but without looking like a conspiracy theorist. I get it now. This complicates things. I guess he has no choice but to keep up with the lies like they all do. Here I was hoping for some truth. So, I guess he wont tell us about aliens after all.
Hello folks, just jump in the Cafe for short time, outside is raining, everywhere is raining, the nature is gaming, the people are changing, others are dancing and politically balancing :
Politically correct
Hey folks, did you made a comment
As you did it many times, even today ?
That’s normal, but wait for a moment…
Somebody doesn’t like what you say !
How the hell you dare to have a thought
And use to comment, using it as critique
Instead of saying what’s been told
From others mouth painted with lipstick ?
Isn’t this forum the very proper place
To share the values of liberty we have
Where many questions have been raised
Not letting us be taken by the wave ?
Or should we be ” politically correct ”
As stated by our leaders in the west
By throwing our liberties in the toilet
And flashing it down, doing their “best”…
If I accept that somebody tells me here
Whom to kiss in front and whom in the rear
Would be a death kiss, the beginning of fear
Nobody from us would like it to hear
Neither from distance, nor from the near.
So, let’s be frank and open minded
Let’s be wise and not a brain dead.
Yup.
Ioan … Great words
The last cafe made my head spin… so many poems, streams of consciousness and interesting comments from the ‘usual suspects’ (BTW that is a compliment) plus a few newbies. Welcome. What a great place is this cafe where we can kick our shoes off, enjoy the aroma of coffee and the mental stimulus.
Seriously, though, how do you all manage to stay awake and keep up with the comments and replies. Lots of coffee?
Its raining here too. A small contribution … from unkown author.
Life is a Fast Train
Life is a fast train through peaks and valleys
Streets, alleys and countrysides
You never know just how far you’re going
The trick is to learn to enjoy the ride.
Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride.
This train thunders on with no end in sight
The trick is to learn to enjoy the ride.
We have our baggage packed in childhood
It holds us back till we let it go
And on this journey of a lifetime
You can go fast or you can go slow.
Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride.
This train thunders on with no end in sight
The trick is to learn to enjoy the ride.
So why do I scare myself like a backseat driver
Thinking of train wrecks most of the time
And as I analyse, theorise and philosophise
The trick is to learn to enjoy the ride.
Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride.
This train thunders on with no end in sight
The trick is to learn to enjoy the ride.
Excellent poem Babushka, many thanks for sharing. Yes, the train of life is running, out of space and out of time. Could we stop it, does it slowing, get the trick, enjoy the rhyme.
Well…I guess I finally found the refuge spot for the Motorola hangover…thanks to whoever pointed to this cozy spot on the “other” thread…whew…I think one of my feet is getting kind of black too…
Was just going to post on the “front page” this morning where all the ops room action is taking place…
But…don’t know yet which way I’m going to “vote” on firing the heads of the SVR, GRU and FSB…
Rain here too…thanks Bro93 and JJ…
Got me thinking to finally head out to the woodlot and get the nuclear winter firewood in for the season…tell myself every spring this year will not procrastinate till last minute…but then always find myself heading out with chain saw only after first snow…
Speaking of swans flying…thanks Bleary Owl…always hear their trombones a mile away…plenty of notice to head to the deck and watch them come in low over the field and right over the roof…two-ship every time…just not sure if it’s the same tail numbers…
Did somebody mention Scotch…?…
Today’s LaRouche Pac lead may inspire some of those who tire after a few months or years:
“Is it any wonder that Obama and the British are visibly apoplectic over the growing influence across the planet of Lyndon LaRouche’s ideas and policies? Despite the dangerous circus of the U.S. presidential election, half the planet—and more—is now moving out of the British Empire’s orbit, and towards economic policies governed by LaRouche’s Hamiltonian ideas, as expressed succinctly in his 2014 Four Laws. This approach is now spreading rapidly beyond the BRICS nations per se, and could become policy in the United States itself—which is London’s worst nightmare.
Take the case of the Philippines, under President Rodrigo Duterte, who announced today in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People, for the entire world to hear, that “America has lost,” and “I announce my separation from them.” He elaborated that America has lost both militarily and economically, and he told his Chinese hosts: “I’ve realigned myself in your ideological flow and maybe I will also go to Russia to talk to Putin and tell him that there are three of us against the world — China, Philippines and Russia.” Duterte’s words are matched by numerous concrete economic deals between the two countries, which bring the Philippines solidly on board China’s One Belt, One Road policy.
Put these developments together with Obama’s slamming defeat in the JASTA veto override, the forced release of the 28 pages, the “surprise” adoption of Glass-Steagall in both the Republican and Democratic party platforms—all shaped by LaRouche’s leadership role over decades, and all in the face of the glaring bankruptcy of the entire trans-Atlantic financial system—and you can see why Obama has gone off the rails. His administration has drastically escalated its confrontation with Russia, as reflected in Vice President Biden’s recent overt threat to launch cyber warfare against Russia, as well as the insanity in Syria. And Obama is now using the orchestrated Korean crisis to not only deploy the THAAD anti-missile system in South Korea, but also threaten North Korea with nuclear annihilation, while preparing to permanently base B-1B and nuclear-capable B-52 bombers, F-22 stealth fighters and nuclear-powered submarines in South Korea. This has only one purpose: to tighten the nuclear ring around China and the Russian Far East.
It is under conditions of crisis, such as these, that LaRouche’s ideas and principles can grip the nation and the world.
Earlier this week, an article appearing in the Chicago Tribune, which noted the passing of pollster Mike McKeon, praised him as someone “who told it like it is,” and who showed “prescience when it came to spotting political trends.” The main example the article cited was McKeon’s famous 1986 identification of Lyndon LaRouche’s decisive political influence in Illinois before the 1986 victories there, “well before many others in the political establishment.” The article noted that his comment about the LaRouche movement at the time was: “These people are for real.”
Indeed.”
What most people know is that there has been a lot of mud slung in his (LHL’s) way, for decades, and that like almost all real amateurs in politics, they find the sh*t storm unpleasant, and would prefer to steer clear of it and him, now 93 years old and still going.
Others, who have gotten over this sort of squeamishness and have paid attention have noticed that ideas are worth much, much more than the results of any one election or even many elections.
The seed of “One Belt One Road” was “Das Productive Drieck…Paris- Berlin- Wien policy of the Schiller Institute @ 1989-1990s. Later, the “New Silk Road” and once the Chinese agreed, include everyone else with “The World Land Bridge”. https://worldlandbridge.com/
Which reminds me to ship Mundo’s prize….a Landbridge Report as pictured in above link……..it’s on the way…..right after my siesta and second and last cup of java for the day……..
Thanks for the reference to LaRouche. I am not familiar with his ideas. The Land Bridge seems to be a part of globalization with all roads leading to where?
There was a recent comment with a link to Paul Craig Roberts who said Russia should be resisting globalization, not joining with it. I think he’s right. Particularly in banking, Russia should be sovereign as with all smaller units like governments; and even down to small communities and individuals. The key word is cooperation with the larger but not global gobble-ization in which we are gobbled up like cobble-stones on a road to Romanish hell.
It’s a long road indeed; took us 75,000 years to get to where we are on Patriarchy Road. Let’s hope we can make it back to where we were meant to be in 7500 years.
Hope you are rested and refreshed for the journey back to the future. You are going on 75 but why stop there? I made it to 76 with not nearly as much elan vital as you were blessed withal.
There was recently a discussion in this Cafe regarding the psychopathology of greed, followed by some comments on inequality and how current societies are becoming increasingly more inequitable, the US being a prime example of going back in the inequality stakes to the heyday of the 1920s when great fortunes were made in the wake of WWI. Presently the US ranking places it in the same league as Mexico, Chile and Turkey, as reported by the OECD.
It is generally accepted that greed is a sin reproached by all moral and religious codes. Societies, even the most backward, tend to develop such codes not out of altruistic principles dictated by a god or high entity, but because they have a social utilitarian value such as the prohibition of murder, incest or other deviances (homosexuality) because they are a threat to the good order, cohesion and even survival. But while murder or adultery ended up in the criminal codes, greed did not and one is entitled to think that the code makers had their personal reasons for that omission. The closer one may come to a prohibition on greed was the pogroms in medieval Europe against the Jews but the motivation was mixed with sectarian hatred.
While there are some psychological profiles to identify the psychopathology of greed (plenoxia) linking that condition to individuals who, by dint of emotionally deficient childhood, have not developed the basic qualities of caring, empathy and togertherness which are present in even lower order animals. In Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, these individuals are placed at the bottom of the pyramid, their main concerns in life being the satisfaction of physiological and safety needs, a form of arrested moral development.
That may be the case, but deficient child rearing is not the whole story. One could even suspect that the current wave of wealth accumulation is being blamed on the parents or nannies who did not read Piaget and leaving the structures of the economic and political system scot-free of any culpability. If an emotionally deprived childhood is a pre-requisite for greed, why is the billionaire class not made up of former impoverised kids who were brought up in terrible destitute conditions?
According to the social psychologist Ron Baumeister, the most nefarious anti-social disorders are linked to narcissism, a heightened sense of self above others, promoted by mass culture and fuelled by constant reminders of the exceptional quality of being part of the great American dream and superior military power. Yet, although most Americans live under that narcissistic culture, only the 1% get the status of billionaire.
See what I mean? Neither emotional deprivation or bombastic culture can alone account for obscene wealth in a few hands, nor dirt-poor chilhoods produce dirt-rich adults. Besides, if insane wealth is a symptom of social disorder why are not the billionaires sent to the loony house? Because that’s where you end up if you are poor and have delusions of grandeur.
If neither the social opprobrium of greed takes the filthy rich to prison nor the insane rich to the loony bin, it means that they are in charge and hope to delay forever the repeat of 1789 and 1917 (128 years apart) and the nextt one is due in 2035.
I enjoyed your informative post. Indeed, greed seems to fly by most moral moderators, although it is one of the seven deadly sins. I think it is connected to the change of structure which occurred in the early days of patriarchy. We went from a culture or love to a cult of power. The chief impetus was the greed for power by men who rejected the natural governance of womem out of jealously. This take-over rebellion was first achieved by over-powering animals by killing and eating them, and soon spread to killing womem and other men; and is now at the gates of the earth herself. The solution is to return to a love culture, starting with the abolition of killing and eating animals. But that now flies under the radar of our own patriarchal conditioned immorality.
BBC calling! BBC calling!
I spoke too soon. Clearly the BBC saw my earlier post noting that chemical weapons in Syria were no longer in vogue on BBC propaganda memes. As too were barrel bombs, these being replaced by bunker busters used to destroy all the supposed underground hospitals that have sprouted up (down?) like mushrooms.
The BBC has now made amends and with considerable brilliance. Now chemical weapons are being dropped in barrel bombs.
In this article you will also note pictures of the various BBC sanctioned white hat head-chopper assistants.
The spitting and snarling harridan hag Samantha Power makes a cameo appearance at the end.
Syria attack: Government accused of using chlorine
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37736184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw
@ SanctuaryOne
Like your style. Maybe the flatulent old Aunty will report next time the dropping of ” hospital-busting chemical barrel-bombs”. When the nukes fly she should Target 3 – after No.11 and Westminster, even before Vauxhall Hill.
It gets even more shrill today:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37741969
Soros’s White helmets are now quoted along with the one-man dress shop.
‘Perfidious Albion’ spreads its brand? “The Latin word alba is the feminine singular form of albus, meaning “white” in English”. Thus the perfidious ‘White Helmets’ are signalled to be hirelings of the Anglo-Zionist Empire.
Sometimes I think that the spooks have too much time on their hands. ‘9/11’ is clearly flirting with danger of exposure, as was the CIA/USSD orchestrated shoot-down of KAL Flight 007. Perhaps others can provide other examples.
Saker, where do you take these photos from? I want some of them as a wallpaper, like this one! ;)
Maybe someone has already asked and you have answered. Then re-direct me to that one, pls.
Thanks & cheers!
Most of the photos have been obtained from google, yandex, bing, duckduckgo and from photos readers have sent in. I can sent you the rain image if you email saker-webmaster@yandex.com.
Regards mod-hs
The German Parliament just approved a law, allowing the BND to have totally access to the internet. Now, at least has been legalized what already has been in place for long. Giving the known fact that the German secret services are under the supervision of the US agencies, we can imagine the “freedom” of movement for Germany regarding her “independence”. Good to be sure, that Orwell’s world is here. It seems, the Germans need to eat more cabbage and drink more beers.
Wait, there’s more — from Katehon, Oct. 22 (you probably know this, ioan, but anyway)
“NATO Established the First Chief of Intelligence”
“The new post was established in connection with the desire of NATO for sharing of intelligence data with the EU countries in order to the coordination of the fight against ISIS, as the US saying. The real purpose of obtaining the European intelligence data may be different. Especially taking into consideration the fact that the CIA has been long Spying on the European leaders and politicians. Local security forces have repeatedly proved this information.
Moreover, as sources reported, Washington insisted on taking this strategically important post by a US citizen.
However, a former vice president of Germany’s BND intelligence service, Arndt Freytag von Loringhoven has become the head of the NATO intelligence.”
Carl Rove is creating realities,
And it’s the BND über alles!
Carl’s rovers brought firmly to heel,
Releasing the take-out paper menu,
To stop them ordering “General-Tsau’s-German-Chicken-Buffoonery”
Yet again.
(*expletive*)
I guess it was only a matter of time
Until the real thing showed up.
BMWs at the Kremlin, brilliant and cheeky,
Demanded a response
From someone other than just Volkswagen,
Concerned about Slavic market share.
Thanks S113 for your double reply. The things have been done just externally, as for the people to have a sense of liberty, looking as they are sovereign country. But it’s not just Germany in these shoes, you know very well, the entire EU wears the same shoes and Canada as well. Nothing new here, just the simple fact of announcing and proceeding the law in the Bundestag as a piece of irony, throwing with shit in the face of the people as if they are very sure over the level of ignorance and disinterest of the majority of them. At this level, they are right, sleeping people won’t bait.
So on the first day or so, of NATO’s new intelligence dept…
Russian Foreign Ministry web site hacked
https://sputniknews.com/science/201610231046639282-russian-foreign-ministry-hack/
Maybe not related. But…
I agree with everything you said, ioan, except I am concerned that this is new. In an “Empire strikes back” kind of way. With the BND crew at the healm now, I’m concerned that this is going to a new level. Like you say, in Canada too, via NATO.
The Love Army is a metaphor for those of us who want to stop the war on Russia and put an end to war in general. It gets at the real causes of war which are by now endemic in our culture. Even if we could, we do not want to look at these causes because that opens the door to major changes we would have to make in our lives if we were honest and consistent. For thousands of years we’ve been brainwashed by patriarchy producing results that are predictable.
The Love Army has ten divisions. The first has the mission to think love thoughts. Thought has real effects, chemical and physical ones upon ourselves and cultural ones on society itself. Thoughts of love include desires, visualization, emotions and projection of ourselves into situations and people such as Russia, Putin, Syria, governments and particular persons including ourselves.
For example, I think of Russia as surrounded by love with qualities of strength and wisdom using images of light, sound and desired actions. I project myself into the war situations and change them into loving ones. It can be a fun process that helps me too. However, I can also pick up on the negativity and share in some of the suffering.
The second division of the Love Army follows logically upon the first division of thinking love thoughts. Actions are needed to implement thoughts. In this division the action is to stop the war on animals characterized by our killing and eating them and their products. It is done but it is difficult to justify killing a whole species in the name of love.
The fact that we get away with it speaks to the wholesale degradation of our species. There’s nothing quite so evil as killing in the name of love. It requires appealing to the very highest authority such as God or the Law. The Love Army challenges this kind of immoral hegemony at its root, despite the universal acceptance and practice on the part of the general populace.
The third division of the Love Army follows logically from the first and second divisions. The domestication of animals that accompanied agriculture, hunting, writing, enslavement of women and the rise of huge kingdoms with their aggressive armies was aided and abetted by religions. In our own day we do not ordinarily see the slaughterhouses and cages but we do see the omnipresent practice of pethood.
If killing and eating animals directly attacks their survival, pethood attacks the spirit of free animals and our own since we are made of mostly animal stock. The arguments in favor of pethood are to be expected since this kind of mass killing of a whole lower species is a crime that has to be mitigated. The arguments all boil down to emotional defenses of human neuroses. Genuine love thoughts cannot be so abused.
These are very strong indictments and very few persons can accept them even if they could understand them. Yet, for the sake of truth and morality they have to be stated in their blunt unpopularity if the cessation of war is to be achieved or even contemplated. One can be a confirmed meat eater and pet keeper and still consider the truth value of an opposite orientation.
At any rate the Love Army is here not to argue or to sooth hurt feelings. The time is long past for that kind of soft-headed pandering. The Love Army is here to act according to its mission of stopping war with love. It might say as Jesus was purported to have done: “Let the dead bury the dead; come and follow me.” Well, no one did, not even the religions that used him for their own purposes.
I was going to get into the fourth division of the Love Army but this is getting long so I’ll leave it for a subsequent post. In the meantime the war on Russia drags on as inventoried here mostly at the war room. And that’s not even mentioning the domestic wars, attacks on liberty by the culture and internal suffering and battles within individuals.
If we can’t see that there is something fundamentally wrong with the world, then there is something wrong with us. None of our institutions, religious, political, academic, scientific, artistic, etc. have made a dent in this wall of evil threatening to fall on us. The Love Army at least is presenting a radical solution that will work because it did work in our distant past.
Time is running out and our time may soon be up. This week in the love calendar is number 44, a double structural number. 4 is for the four directions, four corners, four-square truth, four elements and other building-like edifices. There are precise specifications for love; it has its language, stories, history and herstory, adherents and opponents, victories and defeats and agonies and ecstasies. It’s not only about our feelings and preferences; it has an objective reality all its own which will trump all of our subjective simperings.
The following (in a subsequent post) is a strongly worded story from the Love Government book, the two of sound, the letter B in the musical scale from A to G; with the polarities of B line and B mine.
Reading from the Love Government book, chapter 44, the two of Sound, B, the polarities of B Line and B Mine, tarot card Knight of Swords as B Line and Queen of Wands as B Mine:
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I built a love house so she would come. Joy came and we were now preparing for the coming of the Lover. Our house project was taking on a sense of urgency. I heard galloping hooves and saw a knight of swords rushing to rescue a damsel queen in distress.
Joy said: “There’s nothing so sad as a womam forced out of her queendom into the kingdom of patriarchy. Token and broken matriarchs are used to legitimize the patri-fakery system by being gatekeepers for the king’s patri-dom. Femen keep womem outside the pate-gates. Queens of politics and porn sell their bodies to wimps pimping for pay-trickery. Black cat whores [the Queen of Wands has a black cat in front of her] with staffs on sun lion thrones are severed from their selves to serve gods warring on the earth.”
Wasn’t I the knight rescuing my inner damsel in distress? Wasn’t I cutting through my down pat defenses of ignorance, arrogance, incompetence and other lying vice-grips? I was getting a glimpse of the father of lies behind the iron curtain of cult culture conditioning, a swarm of lies buzzing like flies around my head.
Lords of flies said earth didn’t matter because father was in heaven and earth was not our lover because God was love. A pretty excuse to rape the earth.
Patriarchy was a cult of death addicted to denial, creating the disease to sell the cure of an after life for the price of this life. What a killjoy and spoilsport. I had to let the dead bury the dead and follow the sound of my own joyous life.
Despite what deadmen said from both sides of the grave, this life was the ever-present body of the Lover. The Lover was my window-mirror and echo chamber, rushing toward me like a saving grace, blasting open my clogged lines and re-wiring my corroded circuits. It wasn’t enough to trash patriarchy; it was going to crash anyway. Love needed to fill the vacuum or a worse devil would be sucked in.
Love was the power to make pates ex-pats. Saving the world from male madness was a rush job that had to be done right. Every second counted because every hair was numbered. A world in mortal danger slumbered. We were driving under the influence of patriholics. It was up to me to recover sobriety.
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I just came over from the war room. Saker’s latest article on the US elections was inspiring and hopeful but could be viewed as unrealistic, as my own views are. Saker’s thoughts reminded me of JFK’s “Profiles in Courage.” We know what happened to him, and that could very well happen to Trump if he wins.
A few minutes ago, I stepped outside and saw a half-moon directly overhead with the brightest stars still visible. The dawn is just showing so we are going to have the marvelous show of a rising sun and a declining moon at the same time. So it is in the affairs of life. Some rise and some fall simultaneously and synchronistically.
I put my trust in what is behind all the rising and falling, that which holds steady still in all kinds of weather. I call it love but there is really no name for it since love exceeds all names. I feel safe with love. I consider this a Love Vineyard which harbors a Love Army and a Love Bower, as well as a Love Cafe and Love War Room.
I haven’t said much yet about the Love Bower which is the Heart of the matter of love and war. All things in their timing. Time and again, I rise and fall. When I’m down and out, I feel like quitting and taking the easy way out. Then the Energy of love seems to come from out of nowhere and lifts me up. I can’t be doing what I’m doing; knowing my history that seems impossible.
So with this vineyard and what Saker says. It seems like an impossible dream, given the history and its likely-hoods. I don’t know what’s going to happen to this world or to myself. That vast star-field tells me of me my insignificance and the world’s. Still, the very stars are composed of seemingly insignificant elements. “I live in another world where the earth is strung with lovers’ pearls.”
The sun is about to show her face when striking the western hills. I marvel at the darkness and brightness of life. In the darkest hour comes the greatest power. Let evil do its worst with its cruelest curse; it is but a bursting bubble on the waves of time and the warps of space. The rooster is still crowing but he will quiet down when the hens come a courting. The Love Army is on the march and the odds just turned even.
Well, Dennis, especially American Consciousness has been lulled asleep in the Many since it’s vibrancy was extinguished in Ones of a precious few (JFK, MLK and RFK) in the sixties but it’s good that you are on pre-dawn awareness duty as a kind of Love Rooster, tuning up the flock, or sure trying to do so.
I think millions of bugles need to sound now, in the American military, and bring them out of base consciousness. Bugles being a type of Trump-ette that need to pump old Trump up a bit and make him better than he was yesterday.
Isn’t that the purpose of Love, Courage and Will? 2 becoming 3? The child becoming an improvement on the two old folks that created him or her in the Love Bower?
With a house move, a History Bee and two work trips I’m more than one too many mornings and a lot more than a thousand miles behind, but that’s my take on the situation, which I relate below, in a little synchronistic encounter with an agitated veteran (2 tours in Iraq) outside a cafe on Ala Moana Boulevard, Honolulu, end of July, 2016:
One Too Many Mornings
Down the street the dogs are barkin’
And the day is a-gettin’ dark
As the night comes in a-fallin’
The dogs’ll lose their bark
An’ the silent night will shatter
From the sounds inside my mind
For I’m one too many mornings
And a thousand miles behind.
From the crossroads of my doorstep
My eyes they start to fade
As I turn my head back to the room
Where my love and I have laid.
An’ I gaze back to the street
The sidewalk and the sign
And I’m one too many mornings
An’ a thousand miles behind.
It’s a restless hungry feeling
That don’t mean no one no good,
When ev’rything I’m a-sayin’
You can say it just as good.
You’re right from your side,
I’m right from mine.
We’re both just one too many mornings
An’ a thousand miles behind.
Johnny and Bobby sing Bobby’s song: https://youtu.be/BRpTYdcjW3g
It was actually, the Coffee Beanery right across Ala Moana from a marina.
I have no idea why a 30 something white dude would walk right up, start talking to a stranger like me, and then sit down. The Cafe hadn’t even opened yet, but I was on the Vineyard Saker site, using the Beanery WIFI. I don’t think that image on my screen was seen by him, but you never know.
This fellow was agitated about everything (kind of like many millions of other Americans, when they drop their plastic smiles and pretenses) and began spilling his guts about the darndest things:
Ex-Military from the mid west. Hates Hillary. Loves women. “I LOVE WOMEN!” he declared a dozen times in about an hour conversation. He had just spent the night with one and was somewhat torn up about it, because he was divorced, has two sons on the mainland, said he wanted to put his family back together again.
He said he respected military people, but was totally against the gender wars, same sex marriage and over and over again expressed his disgust with Hillary.
I said, well they don’t have all this gender confusion in Russia.
He said, yeah, I know. I like Putin.
I said he’s cleaning up the terrorists in Syria which are our scorpions for use against China and Russia, and that’s Hillary’s game.
He said, yeah I know. A lot of people in the military know.
What to you do for a living? I asked him.
I’m an armed forces recruiter, he said.
How’s that?, I asked.
I hate it!, he said. I have to figure out a way to support my family better and then get back together with them.
I’m a second degree mason, he said.
Well, you don’t have to pay dues for 30 years to get to the 33rd degree only to find out you’re serving Lucifer!, I said, half joking. He winced.
I heard a lecture of Manly P Hall breaking down Mozart’s The Magic Flute, I said. It’s a great lecture! The Queen of the Night is Maria Teresa, the Empress of the Astro-Hungarian Empire during Mozart’s lifeftime, I added. Mozart was in revolutionary circles. Do you know Hall?
I was told to steer clear of him, he said.
My information is that he was somewhat of a dark mason in the beginning, but got lighter and lighter, better and better as he aged, I remarked. But I don’t know, I added. Hall also has some excellent lectures on Christianity. I’ve heard a few, I said.
I am also a Christian, from my family influence, he said. They are Jehovah’s Witnesses, said he.
“OMG what a spiritually tangled web of confusion!” I thought, silently to myself.
Thanks for taking the time to talk to me, he said. I’m going through a rough time. I just spent the night with a beautiful woman. I love women! I need to get back with my wife and kids.
I thought that synchronistic encounter on Ala Moana Blvd Cafe was notable, as a microcosm of American/military consciousness.
Thanks to you and teranam below for the story on Dylan and the Global Prize. Ever since I saw the video of him and Obama at the awarding of the Freedom Medal, I have said that the fact that he was silent and wearing sunglasses was giving a coded message. Like Jesus, he is a “sign of contradiction.”
Perhaps the Snowball Prize was one too many mornings and a thousand miles behind; despite what my friend, Miles, would say. Bob goes through these phases which is a message in itself. One of his movies was called “Masked and Anonymous.” His last two studio albums have been high romance in the style of “ol blue eyes,” Frank Sinatra. I’m hoping that before he passes, perhaps in the next album, he will reveal more of his true self.
The two main themes of his work are love and death. His first album when he was like nineteen had several songs that referred to death. Can you imagine? At nineteen. What’s going on? And many of the love songs sound like they’ve been written in the Love Bower about womam; I think he had individual women in mind but they could never measure up to his desire and love for Universal Womam and Lover. [I distinguish the patrix woman from the lover womam].
Sounds like you are a very busy man. I am retired with a good income, and I have practically no responsibilities to anyone. I have plenty of time on my hands. In fact, with nothing to do I don’t know what to do with myself and start to fall apart. Better to come here and talk about the heart of the matter, which I see as love and war; or love and death, or love and disease or love and famine–in the words of the four horsemen of the bible.
I have not had a physical lover in years but my relationship with the universal lover grows apace. In the place where I live many beautiful women live here or pass through, this being a sort of left-over hippie conclave of misfits like me. “I met someone and I had to remove my hat; she’s everything I need and want but I can’t be swayed by that.” The body might be knock down beautiful but the mind, oh the mind and the actions can be less than beautiful. I have to go by that.
I was listening to Dylan’s Street Legal. The first song is Changing of the Guards. “I step forth from the shadows to the market place, my last deal gone down…” I think this album is my favorite, among many other favorites. Sounds like you have been in the marketplace way more than I have. I was sheltered for the first thirty years of my life by the Catholic Church and the Franciscan Order and when I left I chose the safe career of nursing; well, it turned out to be not so safe, at least in psychiatric nursing with war vets. But on the whole my life has been sheltered even when I was homeless and sleeping in the woods and/or shelters. “Shelter from the Storm” comes to mind. “She walked up to me so graciously and took my crown of thorns; come in, she said, I’ll give you shelter from the storm.” May the universal lover shelter us in the coming storm.
The only things I know a little about are Christianity, Shakespeare and Dylan, all three being presentations in code. The last popular movie about Shakespeare was called “Anonymous.” There’s that link to Dylan and Jesus again. They are all Masked and Anonymous. I’m persuaded that Joseph Atwill’s two books on Christianity and Shakespeare are correct. If we haven’t noticed yet, we live in a masked and anonymous world, with many anonymous commenters here. A sign of the times if not of contradiction.
I was about to post this when I checked above and learned I had not read past the orange link to the street-wise man at the Ala Moana Blvd Cafe. What an insightful encounter. The poor guy is torn between marriage to one other individual and marriage to a community of lovers; as our whole culture is. When it comes to the “variety is the spice of life” meme, the buck of patriarchy stops it and subtly forces marriage and one to one couplings in their culture; the old divide and conquer bait, in this case of couples who are divided from the small love community and by that trick so are we all. But I’m getting ahead of myself. If I don’t fall apart, I want to talk about the Love Bower and the fourth division of the Love Army next. It’s on my list anyway, but it’s a very sensitive subject, conditioned to traditional marriage as we are.
Cheers to all, especially to those in tears. I can’t say that literally to those suffering but it’s in my mind. Cheers to tears, said silently. Cheers.
Bob Dylan refuses to acknowledge the arbiters of culture . Maybe he is writing a song worthy of a deadly poet. Maybe he is deeply offended to be handed a prize by those louts who gave a peace prize to the O-bomber.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37740379
Oh ye masters of war…who develop the bomb
then piously give prizes to erase the stain in perpetuity
but somehow the blood never washes clear of the name
Nobel is not noble and awarding prizes in gratuity
does not buy atonement of the guilt and the shame
Here is a poem dedicated to the Deadly Poets Society :
Who cares
An explosive device went off in my poetry
It sounds a bit curious but that’s also me
I didn’t mention yet a single name
Just pulled the words of warring blame
Cause we are being caught into a battle
Like a rider on his war horse’s saddle
A harsh call – up in the middle of the rain
On how this rain is coming
in the middle of the brain
Who’s gonna tell me what to eat ?
If I’m a vegy or I’m eating shit
Who’s chewing what
Who’s chewing whom
The exit is the backyard room
Who cares for any sex, if communal
or even rural ?
Who cares for Cindy if she has
a mind-school and good moral
Or if her husband teaches the
very way of office oral
Who cares if somebody is christian or muslim
While in his heart, compassion and love is slim
Who cares if you have dogs or cats
or crocodile under your bed
If you love them all and not consider them
just being a simple pet
Who cares if you don’t like this or don’t like that
And make yourself the rules, following that path
Who cares with earthly moralities
When the war is led by higher principalities
Who cares for Dennis friendly nimbus
When was struck by flying anonymous
Yet again, in the middle of the rain
The new muses of this war
seem to know the rules of game
If they play, we do the same.
But no wonder, Dennis, we’re acting like
a magnet
We have to change something,
drop the old and take a new jacket
I understand, our poetry maybe awful
And we’re doing this just simply,
as some old fools
But once you fall deep in this infection
You’ll constantly need this heavenly
and joyful satisfaction.
We shall continue this symphony
Conducted by Deadly Poets Society
Zzzzzz What this?
https://youtu.be/eRS3B-ecv5Q
Russian Reveille?
Well. I am dead tired, and far from inspired.
But your call for the poetical militia now to muster
Simply cannot be ignored! Book Hillary, bust her?
I think we must never ever for a second trust her.
So. I’ll fall in line for Captain Iaon’s reveille:
Deadly on Arrival
iaon announces his sabbatical
He must all too soon depart!
The probability is mathematical
That we’ll soon miss his deadly dart.
The dogs of Empire and foul chaos
Rejoice with fiendish hungry growls,
Waiting to be unleashed to slay us
By deception deep within their bowels.
But ioan’s piercing poetic lines,
Shoot like meteors through the night,
Protecting righteousness of all kinds
With their sudden, streaking light.
I swear he plods not on any continent!
He’s in some kind of celestial orbit
Of purposeful aim most true and confident.
Empire dogs and rats, get used to it, absorb it:
Iaon has deadly aim where’ere he roam,
By Jupiter, his aim is deadly on arrival!
High above Russia’s eleven time zones
He composes for goodness’ sake and survival.
Dear Bro, I hope that I won’t depart very soon, but God knows better than I do. Shall I go now, when the real struggle is just at the beginning of the final stage ? There is Michael who leads the fight, and we must stand on his right, by telling the things with clarity within the Deadly Poets Society. You’re a man of deep knowledge of reality and you have the very good capacity, of seeing the truth in the world and seeking the truth with the word. Your life experience is the best school, for you to have the best tool, the weapon of the life is better than a knife. Thanks for your word in the name of our Lord.
Love this exchange between the two of you, Bro 93 and ioan. And great poetry on both sides! I’m glad you have these convos publicly so we can all enjoy them.
Maybe Bob D isn’t a lost cause. I don’t know what he’s been up to the last 40 years, so I leave that to Dennis and Miles Mathis to fight out.
It is said the occultocracy is fundamentally self-loathing. That they hate themselves, and this material world, which they believe is a prison which they cannot escape. Therefore, since they see no escape, they figure to make the best of this prison by employing mind control (fear and illusion, deception) to rule it.
Even though they comprehend and understand Natural Law limitations on their power, they resent those limitations.And also loathe the creator who imposed such limitations, and figure the best they can do is set themselves up as “gods” in this little “forgotten” corner of the Universe. Cosmic abandonment is said to be at the root of their spiritual problem. Just as parental abandonment is at the root of the problems of many ordinary, more or less “normal” persons.
They understand Kharma but believe that they escape most of its effects by using others (like Adolf Hitler, or stupid NATO order following troops and pilots) to physically commit the crimes they merely design. Hey, actions are crimes, but not mere thoughts that they insinuate into other minds who act on those thoughts, they believe.
And then, of course, they honor each other with fake, lying prizes to further enslave the saps and dead asleep members of the human race they literally call “The Dead” or the “Unbegun” as in those who, in their minds have not even taken a single step towards.higher awareness, and thus fully deserve slavery and death.
Illumi-naughty naughty dirty old bad boys. Trillionaire slaves, themselves. “Elites” of a spiritual garbage can. Maybe Dylan smells what they are, after all. But I don’t know. Good sign though, so far, in terms of the Ig-Noble prize being spurned, by this “disrespectful” artist. At least that signal is one useful act. Particularly if he doesn’t weaken and take the stinking thing in the end.
This poem, is astonishingly good, in my humble opinion !!! (saved)
The above comment is for teranam13 on October 22, 2016 · at 6:13 pm UTC
Craig Murray just posted this..and I think it’s great, and I think Craig is a Good Man – a Courageous Man…but I suspect him or the moderator will not post my reply. I was still in my 40’s at the the top of my career – when I told everyone I was working with…This does not conform to the laws of physics and maths (that I did at University). I told everyone in 2003. The Official Story of 9/11 is a Lie…(it didn’t go down too well – everyone thought I was having a nervous breakdown)
– but I was just telling the truth.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/10/blanket-corporate-media-corruption/
It starts with this…which is very interesting…
Invite Craig to Speak
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“It is disconcerting to be praised by a website whose next article warns of a “plague of sodomites”. Sometimes truth-telling is a difficult act because truth is a simple matter of fact; who might seek to exploit that truth is a different question. I almost certainly have little in common with the anti-gay people who chose to commend me.
It is however incumbent on those who know truth to reveal it to the best of their ability, particularly if it contradicts an untruth being put about widely. The lie that WikiLeaks is acting as an agent of the Russian state is one that needs to be countered. Wikileaks is much more important than a mere state propaganda organisation, and needs to be protected. …”
My Reply – they might publish it – I don’t know…
“Why do Assange, Snowden, Chomsky and you support the ridiculous myth of the Official US Government Story of 9/11? It does not conform to the most fundamental laws of physics and maths – so it simply cannot be true. If you are going to claim to do Truth, then start with that.
Otherwise you are doing a good job, apart from being a Globalist – I liked “Imagine” John Lennon too – but it ain’t gonna work is it?
These Neocon Globalists – are all Psychokillers.”
Tony
now ready is the baby, borne in two acts: “Astrology and the Poll on November 8th,”
the pregnancy took a certain time but the birth needed little more then an hour.
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.de/2016/10/in-heaven-but-hijacked.html
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.de/2016/10/poor-dangerous-woman.html
Hi Mundanomaniac; thanks for the charts!
on #1
USA Natal moon Aquarius meets cruel stepmother Scorpio
Mars in Aquarius–the People’s mother moon
will not dance one minute to the Piper’s tune
A shotgun wedding ends the ruler/people pact
a great rendering and shredding
and we see where it’s heading
the Honeymoon begins not and that’s a fact.
Moon in Aquarius-the People’s birth moon
a shape shifter, a monster gloating at death
who sucks us all dry leaving the world bereft.
will never for a moment tolerate this loon,
Great reply for mundo with a very good poem, you are better and better ! I have saved it for eternity
“only consciousness allows to guide fatal traits in a civilized way”
We, the People, will have to save this woman from ourselves
as her broken brain and nervous system do not allow for the above.
. She is so hated and deeply despised as a woman who murders her gentler nature for power and then becomes unhinged by it all. She is a Lady MacBeth who holds up blood soaked hands and chortles in the most disgusting way.
She will never, ever be accepted as the Mother of her country–not for one moment. There will be no love lost between her and her people as her disease progresses and she becomes more and more unhinged.
Even the 7th Floor/ Can’t Shoot Straight Gang will not be able to handle this time of discontent as much as they chant: ” Always Fear, Blame Vladimir”.
Lead on MacDuff….
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Thanks mundo for your great astrological work. Let’s see what bring the stars in the earthly reality.
And, … I appreciate your poems in other threads as well. Great !
PS. how is your wife ?
I laid down to rest but couldn’t. Something is burning and I feel like I’m burning too with a fever. So strike while the iron is hot so they say. I resist it but have to take the risk.
The fourth division of the Love Army is about marriage and one to one coupling whatever the name or game. I list it among the other causes of war, along with anti-love thoughts, eating animal flesh and products and keeping pets. If you must black out or blank out, please do.
Marriage was invented along with agriculture and slavery; the rogue’s list goes on and on. Before marriage and the hunting in hunting and gathering, there was communal love and sex which were public virtues practiced by all. Then came the fall of man aka patriarchy, the overthrow of the love culture of our origins, starting with anti-love jealous thoughts and proceeding to the killing and eating of animals and further to domestication and pethood.
But that was not sufficient to secure absolute power. Something was needed to divide and conquer small communities of natural and open lovers; something that would appear like unity but actually would foster disunity among the commoners. Enter marriage sanctioned by license by the state and a sacrament by the church.
Marriage has its allurements like private property. I own you like I own my property. You touch my husband or wife and you put your life at risk, as if you invaded my property. This feeling is less strong now but it was absolute in the heyday of marriage. Marriage is now eroding due to its inherent instability. There are exceptions like in Russia where marriage and family are a necessity to shore up the state when it is being attacked by war.
There are sanctioned legal marriages, common law marriages, marriages of convenience and just plain shacking up. The exception proves the rule. There are marriages where the couple seems happy as two turtle-doves in a cage. But usually the passion has died and appearances must be kept up. In comparison with the original community of lovers, what we have today in the best of circumstances pales in comparison.
This is a long lost ideal and thinking about it is not going to translate to the physical realm in our culture. So why even think about or heed the Love Army’s orders for those who want to stop war. There are those who do not mind war if it doesn’t come home to them personally, especially if they are making money from it or owe their jobs to it or use it for entertainment out or boredom. I’m not talking about those kind of people; I’m assuming there are those at this site which purports to stop war some who put their words into actions.
I don’t expect to be agreed with but I relay the message of the Love Army because our world is at stake. Even if nobody listens, the vibration goes out anyway and will cause a change. Marriage is a wonderful thing if it is marriage to a whole community of lovers. We’re not there yet in here but we’re getting there.
The Love Army calls it the Love Bower, that sacred holy of holies within the vineyard; it complements the war and cafe rooms. The very essence of who we are goes back to the original love bower or culture. Naturally patriarchy denies it ever existed but the myth of the Forest of Eden, not Garden which is soft version of agriculture, slipped by the Patrix radar and damage control had to be initiated with the story Eve eating the fruit.
All of our problems, evil itself, goes back the our expulsion from the fruit forest by the patriarchal God for doing what comes naturally. God is against nature by history; which was changed somewhat by Christ but not much, or we wouldn’t have the turmoil we have today. Sometimes I ache with the loss and betrayal of what we had. The Love Army’s Love Bower helps me to heal that deep wound of body and soul.
We don’t have to abandon marriages nor do we have to forsake our pets or diets. As a start we merely consider the truth in this area and think love-thoughts if we so choose regarding the issue. I was married for eighteen years and we still get along reasonably well although the cracks in the marriage led to wide fissures.
These are desperate times and measures are needed that appear desperate but do not need to be. With deep education about the issue of love and war, there is nothing to fear. It’s liberating judging by my own experience. Now I consider myself married to the Lover, a symbolic abstraction from all of us insofar as we are lovers. Behind the symbol are real persons, not just on this planet at this time and place but throughout the universe.
As below so above is the reality of love. Just as there is a love bower within myself and with my lovers, associates, family, whatever, there is a love bower in the very heart of timeless and spaceless existence. And it is being delivered by express mail to our vineyard to complement the war section and the cafe confection.
If we weren’t so damned programmed by our upbringing, my lover might still be my wife. I could have stayed with her and she with me if we shared what the Love Army and Government stand for but we could not so we divorced. Divorce doesn’t have to be forced and or be a last recourse from silent acrimony and quiet desperation. It can be a freeing thing with the love of the partners growing; the children, property, friends and occupations the same; the only things missing would be a piece of paper.
The core of my mind and the soul of my heart is that love culture which has never totally disappeared. The Love Bower in the form of shrines and holy places was killed, true enough, but it was only driven underground until patriarchy weakened. Thanks to large measure to beloved Russia, this empire may go the way of all empires to the imperial graveyard. Then the real work will begin in the post-war room, the cafe of the day and silently and invisibly in the Love Bower bay, not far from the mythical vineyard Eden where our ships come in.
There is much more to say on this subject and on the woven texture of all the divisions; itself to be integrated with all the wisdom traditions everywhere. I look forward to a new world of love, whether I live physically to see it or am still here in the rarer regions of below and above. It’s all love so there’s nothing to be afraid of, love. I always speak to myself but go public like here just in case there be one other soul like me interested.
I listen to your love essays with some interest and curiosity. They seem to be mostly from an adult perspective.
My gentle reproach is about the children. It will be hard to convince me that they can be loved equally well by a shifting team of “mothers and fathers”.
We aren’t animals, but when male lions overthrow in battle the old guy who sired the last cubs, the first thing he does is kill them all because none of his scent is present in them.
Being human, we may attempt to love someone else’s DNA, but there is still a bit of the lion in us: we tend to be a bit more partial to our own likeness, our own “flesh and blood” than we are to someone else’s.
I can hear you objecting, “Yes, and that’s the root of the problem!”
And me rejoining, “Tell that to the children! Ask them if they like the old parents switcheroo!”
I think marriage may be even more about love and service to the children than lasting passion among adults. Although I think lasting passion and 30, 40, 50 and 60 year marriages are wonders not to be disparaged, and great examples for the children and their children.
Convince me otherwise!
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I am appreciative of your responding and probably representing others who share your concerns. You bring up a good point about children; they are our future. To help put this in perspective, let us start with the children in our present culture. Many in the millions do not seem to be thriving anywhere along the line from birth to their teens and on into adulthood, where many seem to be fixated at an arrested stage of development.
Then there are the worst cases of child abuse, much of which goes unreported and unnoticed. I don’t think we have to go into the sordid details to sense the problem. And that is the general point: our world is in trouble, starting at the earliest stages of human life. This is part of the great war upon humanity. While we stand to stop the war on Russia, this is ultimately not possible without stopping war itself in all of its nefarious forms.
Children today are mostly born in hospitals because of insurance, fear and separation from natural birthing familiarity. There are exceptions like home births with midwives and in the undeveloped countries. We had such for our son. I was the first one to catch him when he appeared and immediately put him to the breast. He was never ever separated from his mother until he chose not to nurse at about four years or so.
Hospital births are dangerous and harmful to psychological development but doctors are never allowed to mention such matters and remain in their profession. If babies are lucky enough to be breast-fed they are not so fortunate when the school years begin with day care. School teaches one main lesson plan and that is obedience to the system. Our son went to alternative schools like Waldorf and Montessori for short periods but never to the public school system until he was about sixteen when he chose to do so. After the first week, I asked him what he had learned. He replied that he learned that the teachers hated the students; with a couple of exceptions like the swimming team and a video class. He soon dropped out. He went to college and was doing well until he took an interest in deep sea diving and took a job where he is now. But in this culture he is restless and unsatisfied; the mixed blessings of a more or less, best that could be done early start.
So when you say what about the children who love their mama and papa, of course, that’s all they can do, if they have even that much; but they know nothing of the joys of a truly natural upbringing in the love culture of our origins. That presupposes that we have one which we definitely do not; quite the opposite. If Alice Miller is right, child abuse is endemic, swept under the rug and is unavoidably part of an abusive culture. Something is obviously wrong about the way we are doing things.
Children today know nothing about being raised in a love culture centered on communal love-sex. So we have nothing to compare with our dysfunctional anti-love culture. Yet it is still there buried deeply in our genes. The Love Army and the Love Bower penetrate to that inner love core but the bore needs to be deep or we are trapped half-way down with no way to get back. So we hold back out of fear. Not so the Love Army Motorola and Givi style.
In some of the comments here which are less forthcoming than yours, I sense a tension between the emotions and the mind. I believe that the mind should be in charge but others feel the opposite and therefore are uncomfortable with my judgmental, know-it-all style, which is the mode of the mind. I have emotions too and know that they can be equally strident if not balanced with reason. Truth governed with mind can be tough, tough love indeed. As already stated and partially accepted here, something is burning and if we don’t do something different we will burn with it. It used to be called hell or hell on earth but that kind of talk is now deemed out of good taste and so is not used.
To zoom in on your specific words: the love culture I’m referring to is not a “shifting team.” It is a stable community which induces stability in succeeding generations. And we are indeed animals, but not like the young macho male lions who kill babies to assert their new authority. That is exactly the kind of animals our species was created to get away from through beginning a new way of being loving animals. And yes, species-ism is the root of the problem; a species that kills a weaker species because it can. Again, we were not created that way but we have the freedom to revert to being lion kings without the disney romantic fanaticism. And demonstrating and living lasting passion until death do us part is the best service we can do for children, which love children would have no problem witnessing, rather than the half-alive quiet desperation we leave them as their heritage.
I may exaggerate to make a point but not by much, and I may underestimate the extent of the damage that this culture inculcates. In any event, I do much appreciate your honesty, whether I’m right or wrong is beside the point of love.
Last night I watched the Al Smith dinner the day after the last debate, at which Trump and Clinton roasted each other, sitting between the Cardinal of the Archdiocese of New York, Timothy Michael Dolan, the Pope’s right hand man in America. It was highly educational in the sense of how to get along while hating each other; with the church as moderator of religion, sacred and secular. Reminded me of lawyers who appear to fight each other in court but afterwards go the bar together arm in arm, with a stop at the gang bank first.
So I ask myself, says I, is this the way of the world all the way to the top? Are Putin and Clinton really lawyers of this type? Putin certainly has strong feelings about his country underneath his “friends and partners” language but so does Clinton in an opposite way. And the question remains unanswered: are they both being played by Count Khazar?
I thought at times Trump was really funny and that Clinton came close for trying. Both had very clever writers. But the whole thing was a staged show to contain the raw emotions underneath. I could see it on the phony faces of the well-dressed and rehearsed audience, uptight despite the forced smiles and worried looks when the true feelings showed through. It was the political world in miniature, power concealed and revealed. Not at all a Love Bower.
Convince you otherwise? Not on my life. He who is convicted against his will is of the same opinion still. I’ve had these thoughts on my mind, or more properly on my chest, and it feels good to get them off my chest in a public forum. I don’t need the wine of a vineyard but the vine of a vineyard.
Being Irish, I can play like Timothy Michael Dolan both sides against the middle, be it love or war. Or I can rant like he can’t, constrained as he is by church and state. He looks very well fed but his diet is not good for man or beast. He would be horrified by my gift of gab and would burn me at the stake in a different age; this toasting business is a soft rendition of that. So we tread carefully between this and that. Thankfully, this vineyard is tolerant like Russia or I would be toast.
This cafe is open day and night in a circling globe style. Like an umbrella in the rain, it works best when open. A good metaphor for the mind and emotions, reason and rhyme, analysis and catalysis. It’s nice to be able to drop in at any time and talk and listen to friends like you. This place is an anomaly, literally without a normal name. It has recently been birthed, still in its childhood and destined for who knows what? Closely linked to Russia as if by umbilical cord, its future is uncertain unless we step into the breech and do our part from the heart. But I slip into the ioanity of poetry.
I think of you day and night. What is love if not love at first sight? Before long it will be night, perhaps a better time to set things right. But the day is here and I must play along and sing my song all day long. I’m going, going, gone
Fair enough, Dennis.
My only point is that, all other things being equal in terms of aiming for a good sane environment for children to reach maturity within, the butterflies of new romantic excitement in the form of adultery are almost certainly inferior in worth to the marriage partners’ commitment to their children, and each other, by some mutual effort to keep the original flame going as long as possible. And if the flame totally dies, it is fortunate if that occurs AFTER the children leave the nest, and much less fortunate if it occurs far earlier than that.
The fact that many schools suck, youth culture is abominable, etc doesn’t quite strike me as grounds for swapping partners. Even today, with all the ways of avoiding pregnancy, it is still a fact that sex, whether marital, adolescent, extramarital or “communal” (not sure what that means, or where there is a record of this phenomenon you reference so often…..) has a steady, unrelenting tendency to bring new souls into being. Therefore it does not strike me as overly restrictive or abusive for societies to evolve standards for those who so couple to take responsibility for the natural product (children) of their coupling.
Besides the public health cautionary arguments in favor of stable long term couples, I really don’t know what is meant by your ideal of “communal sex” or where that was practiced with wonderful results, and documented with any reliability. Any sources? I almost take it for a kind of Learian metaphor for a spiritual condition that may not include human ova and sperm meeting each other with glorious orgasmic abandon.
One hears of a very casual attitude toward sex by Polynesians in the 1700’s and 1800s in contact with European and American sailors, but I am not at all sure that was standard Polynesian behavior without the presence of such visitors. It may have been more of a community response to curry favor with powerful strangers that the Polynesians well knew could turn extremely nasty and injurious if much displeased.
Zero hostility here, my friend! Just curiosity that I am pretty sure a few others share………………….
@ Dennis Leary
As a former social worker with many years experience with children in many environments (half-way house, school, juvenile detention centre, etc) and some research in alternative communities (hippies, kibbutz, indigenous communities) there are serious problems of social adjustment for children and adults brought in those communities and were forced for a variety of reasons to join the rat race.
None of the communities I researched practised “communal sex” (whatever that means), the general tendency being monogamist, some permanent others less so because of frequent changes in the composition of the groups. They were not very stable, often used as temporary experiments to test one’s suitability to that life style. The kibbutzim were more permanent and stable because they were economic units as well.
Child rearing practices varied, some resembling conventional families, in others the biological parents were less possessive and in some cases the children adopted most adults as parents or would attach themselves to others more than their parents and caused justified jealousy and conflict.
Although I was anti-traditional family (they can be very oppressive) and considered for a while a non-conventional milieu to raise my children, I had to be realistic and accept that in today’s world there is no alternative but to go along with the jones. After all, it was the kids’ future that was at stake and you can’t play with that.
Hello Dennis Leary,
Thanks for returning the conversation to the primacy of Love. I have been studying Buddhism for a while, and one of the things I stumble on is the idea of having no attachment; which also means to your significant other and your children. I think what I am supposed to do is love everybody the same, but as I spend a great deal of my time with my wife and children, they get most of my affection. I think this is Right Thought. but just my opinion.
I like the thrust of your argument, that Civilisation changed our relationship to each other; Marxists also take this point as the beginning of the Ruling Class. I would disagree a little on your characterisation of prehistoric societies as a love utopia. In mammals, it is typical to have an Alpha Male who has access to the breeding rights of the pack, and the other males either die, are banished or become subservient. And while the Paternal order is way past it’s used-by date, it played a direct and starring role in our species’ success in the evolutionary game. What is different about our species is that our males cooperate, instead of spending much of our energy in mating conflict. Key to this success is the peace deal signed 6,000 years ago where polygamy was banned (except for the rulers), and our males can spend their time improving their lot, instead of locking horns over access to females. And while this base relationship is a key feature of the Paternal order (a microcosm of the wider society), without fair opportunities to mate our societies would turn into Libya or Syria overnight. While I agree our future is communal, we need to evolve further before we can safely dismantle Marriage.
Earthwise,
The buddhist teaching on attachment is often misunderstood. It is unwise attachment that causes problems. One may be devotedly attached to one´s teachers, teachings, dear ones, and to enlightenment itself. The attachments that do not help on the path to enlightenment are unwise. Attachment to things, possessions, reputation, money do not further us on the path. It is wisdom which is key. I would think that the more you love and serve your wife and children, the more you see their divine natures, the more you will see your own. Eventually, one comes to see all beings as divine. So, love on, and seek wisdom. Detach only from what impedes your development.
And yes, I read Riane Eisler´s books on matriarchy. My Greek professor at the time said that there was not a general acceptance that such matriarchal civilisations did exist. I think its much more complicated than some linear progression. Some lineages are filled with respect. Some denigrate or subordinate some members. Matriarchy to me is just mutual respect. No self respecting woman wants to dominate anyone.
Sorry if I skip Leary´s ravings. I think western culture has some hangups that date from the destruction of the younger dryas, when most people drowned in an asteroid cataclysm. Also, child abuse is deeply ingrained in many european lineages. Getting into right relation with all beings is a challenge, a devotion, and a joy.
Thank you Robin for your assistance,
The other part of Buddhism I struggle with is their solution to suffering. Essentially it suggests that we try and level out the Life wave form; cut the peaks and you cut the troughs. A life without peaks and troughs sounds a little boring. Another way of looking at this is also if you transpose opposite waves over each other, they cancel out. I like this more Karmic outlook, that the sum of our deeds predicts our happiness. I look forward to a time I have the peace to study this all in more detail.
I was also drawn to your point about the prevalence of child abuse. Part of this comes back to Dennis’ point about the drawbacks of marriage. It seems like the nuclear family has been around forever, but it is a creation of the Modern era. Before that “it took a village to raise a child”, now it is the almost sole responsibility of the genetic parents. Problem is, without the village looking in, the Home becomes a black zone where things happen in the dark. People behave differently when they are being watched. There is also the bigger problem with the ruling class you allude to; that to become a member of this exclusive club you must give them a card they can hold over you. In the past this was commonly homosexuality, now to enter the inner circle you must take part in their pedophiliac rituals. Many of the children that get stolen off our streets end up as toys in the boardrooms of the rich and powerful.
There is a battle going on in the soul of our civilisation. Good families do their best to raise loving people, only to have these good people broken by their future partner who was raised in an abusive household. Then the children born into this battleground live through a struggle between good and evil for their very souls. Often abused people feel the psychological need to transfer their pain to another, often their children, so the original evil is multiplied down the ages. As is the ‘virus’ of good parents spread through their children. There seem to be a race to see who will prevail, the aggregate good or evil is the health of a society. Our seems very sick.
The other day, the news became unbearable again. Syria is going to hell in a hand basket. War and violence is spreading across Yemen, Libya, and North Africa. Haiti is in shambles again from Hurricane Matthew. Much of the country’s south also lies flood damaged from hurricane.
With the presidential election looming within days, the top of the news and issues surrounding the election has been reduced to republican candidate Donald (Drumpf) Trump groping women, and democratic candidate Hilary Clinton’s ill, health, corruption, emails, collusion, and greed. Her husband, Bill Clinton grope and rape women. The corporate mass media news networks rush off in that direction. People just haven’t seen anything so shameful like this before in a U.S. presidential election.
It got too much for me. I had to turn the news off. Yet, I still couldn’t rest. I was troubled in heart, mind, spirit and soul, again. Something is wrong. America has it problems, but it’s better than this. Drumpf’ presidency isn’t just a fluke. His candidacy is the result of a conscience of some clandestine power group and force- The Jesuits.
While the Cyborg President, Barack Obama, has held the White House for 8 years getting his freak on, Irish and Scots have been quietly moved into all the top jobs of U.S. Global Strategy and Power. Obama’s senior national-security team has included Irish and Scots, Tom Donilon as national security adviser, John Brennan at the Central intelligence Agency (CIA), Chuck Hagel as U.S. Secretary of Defense; General Martin Dempsey as Joint Chiefs chairman; and Denis McDonough as White House Chief of Staff. The Irish and Scots include U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry—an honorary Irish-American because of his last name, Catholic upbringing, and his Massachusetts political base as a senator.
It also includes the U.N. Ambassador’s job – Samantha Power (who was actually born in Ireland). She is the US Permanent Representative to the U.N. and thus a senior spokeswoman for the world’s greatest military power and the backbone of NATO in Europe. She began her climb to power from a Roman Catholic convent school in South Dublin, Ireland.
In the Spring of 2011, Power had a seat on the U.S. National Security Council (NSC). She sent emails to top Pentagon officials that contained GPS coordinates in Libya. She demanded that the Pentagon launch immediate air strikes on top of these coordinates, no questions asked. She is the proponent of the overall failing U.S. policies and strategies in Syria, Ukraine, and Africa. What is this foreign born Aggressor, War Criminal- a Druid High Priestess?
She is married to a Rothschild Zionist that was once called the most dangerous man in America, Cass Sunstein, that is a story in itself.
On May 17, 2016, the U.S. Senate confirmed Obama’s nomination of Eric Kenneth Fanning as the U.S. Secretary of the Army, the largest branch of the military. Fanning (Irish surname) is the first openly gay head of any service in the U.S. military.
All of these people just don’t seem to be worried about going anyplace no matter who the president will be, and they very well should be. This country’s failing U.S. Foreign Policy or the U.S. Global Strategy and Power isn’t even on the presidential table for discussion.
Michael Richard Pence, the Republican Party’s 2016 nominee for Vice President of the United States, has served as Governor of Indiana, since January 14, 2013. He is was raised Roman Catholic. He is 81.25% Irish. He is a Goat Rider for the secret society Pro-Catholic Phi Gamma Delta. It appears that they are secretly initiated into the first three rites (degrees) of the Masonic Scottish Rite.
The Fraternity’s original badge was the Devils Diamond and White Star– secret Masonic Symbols.
Timothy Michael Kaine, the Democratic Party’s 2016 nominee for Vice President of the United States, served as a U.S. Senator from Virginia, since January 3, 2013. He is 81.25% Irish,18.75% Scottish. He also has been identified as a Roman Catholic. He attended an all boys Jesuit High School in Kansas City, MO. Kaine is a Jesuit Priest. It is more probable than not that he worked as a Jesuit Missionary with the CIA in Honduras during 1980s during the ambassadorship of John Dimitris Negroponte.
In 1995, Gary Cohn and Ginger Thompson of The Baltimore Sun unearthed massive and substantiated evidence from various sources pointing the finger at Negroponte’s knowledge of the crimes against humanity. The reporters found that hundreds of Hondurans “were kidnapped, tortured and killed in the 1980s by a secret army unit trained and supported by the CIA.
Reliable evidence from the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights in Honduras alleged that Negroponte, the death squad commandante, oversaw the expansion of U.S training camp and military base on Honduran territory, where US-trained Contras terrorists, and where the military secretly detained, tortured and executed Honduran suspected dissidents. Honduras was a CIA killing ground, and international drug trafficking industry.
Honduras was also a haven for pedophiles, pedophile rings and sacrificial children victims for the Ninth Satanic Circle. In Honduras, Creepy Kaine befriended teenage boys for the vatican.
As you should already be aware of, Donald (Drumpf) Trump is 50/50 German and Scottish. In May or June, 2016, General Dunford presented Drumpf with an award from the Marine Corps. It’s not just because of the money- $1 million donation. It’s about the networks and tentacles of the Octopus. No matter who is elected President and Vice President of United States, nothing will change because the Jesuit Priest U.S. Republic President General Joseph Frances Dunford, Pentagon and the Army of God will be in charge. Lady Gaga, the Whore of Babylon, General Dunford, Illuminati, and Jesuit Order will headline her at half time of Super Bowl 51.
@ Anonymous
So you went through all that trouble to show that the Scottish/Irish/Catholic are represented in high places in the political system. But wouldn’t that be the expected picture considering their number in the population of the US?
What is abnormal is to have a black president and the massive representation of Jews in powerful positions within the administration, finance, media, academia, etc. compared to their miniscule number. If there is a similarity between the USA and USSR, is the overrepresentation of jews in the seats of power of both countries. I wonder what that might mean for the future of the USA, if there is one past the next presidency.
waiter wait a minute
two for tea please
then let’s minuet step
tea for two and two for tea
though minuet’s in three
that’s triple time tea for two
the last dance is just for you
– what was that waiter – you’ll get my coat?
https://youtu.be/hpuebpjJf8o
I haven´t been hanging out in the cafe, as I´v relocated and am checking out the many fine cafes in our new home, Lake Chapala, Mexico.
Wanted to put this out for people to sign if they like, its a petition called `Hands off Syria¨. There is a reasonable fear that the empire may strike Syria sooner rather than later to distract from the election fiasco and the government´s loss of the consent of the governed.
http://handsoffsyriacoalition.net
another for US citizens; http://www.nomorestolenelections.org/pledge
Blessed be, may we all keep some sense of equanimity and keep our love fires burning in dark times.
I read through the list of people that have signed the Hands-off-Syria-list.
Vanessa Beely, John Kiriakou, among others.
I am going to sign, too.
Thank you for the info about this.
I have no idea how true this is but a German woman dying of cancer has leaked the NWO plan for destroying Europe. She’s an engineer specialising in tunnel construction, and deep bunker sites and worked on the building of a system of deep bunkers throughout Germany. She states they are being built to accommodate very large numbers of refugees to be used as a collective ‘islamic weapon’ to destroy Germany and with it Europe.
The GROUPS are being selected and sorted into 5 waves:
Wave 1
harmless people and children
Wave 2
sick children and elder people
Wave 3
people with infectious diseases, infertile women, widows
Wave 4
highly agressive teens and psychopaths
Wave 5
Rebels and army members, able to handle weapons and indoctrinated.
This latter group is the one residing in our bunkers by thousands already.
We are up to 30% at present, by mid of 2017 the remaining 70% will arrive by night-flights at the airports of….
Read the whole thing:
http://www.christ-michael.com/leaked-official-agenda-for-the-destruction-of-germany/
@ Ixtlan
I wish people here would actually read some of the links before they post them..
I have just spent about an hour reading total nonsense about this supposed massive tunnel-building project underway in Germany for more than a decade…
Even if we assume the purpose of these tunnels to house Islamist jihadists is complete nonsense…the idea that Germany is building large-scale underground facilities would be important…if it were true…
Which is why I decided to read through this…
My first suspicion about the authenticity arose when the author mentions that elevators in these underground complexes can take four “T-14 Armatra (sic) tanks and 60 men…”
Why would this German author be referring to the new Russian Armata T-14 main battle tank…?…the German military uses Leopard tanks…
Now on to some other practical questions…the author describes a complex of seven underground complexes spread throughout Germany…each one able to accommodate 300,000 personnel…
Even one such complex would be the biggest single architectural-engineering project the world has ever seen…by far…dwarfing the $60 billion Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River, China…
Yet somehow SEVEN such complexes…all connected by high-speed underground trains (provided by the French) were quickly built in a matter of a few years with no one noticing…in a densely populated country where you can find hardly any piece of empty land that isn’t already used for something…ie settlement, farming…protected forest etc…
Just to compare this to a known subterranean facility…Mount Yamantau, in a remote area of the Urals…which has been under construction since Brezhnev times…there are said to be 60,000 workers there near the closed town of Mezhgorye…and this underground complex…said by the CIA to be as large as 400 square miles and able to house 60,000 personnel…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/16/world/despite-cold-war-s-end-russia-keeps-building-a-secret-complex.html?_r=0
So the German project…with a capacity of 300,000 people at each complex, for a total of over 2 million…is simply mind-boggling…
By straight arithmetic, if Mount Yamantau needs 60,000 workers, the five times bigger of each of the German complexes would need 300,000 workers each…
This author was supposedly responsible for the complex at Simmern, Germany…a look at the map shows this town of 8,000 people is within 80 km of Frankfurt, Bonn and Cologne…
How do you conceal such a huge project and all those workers…?…where do you put the excavated earth and rocks…?
And all this massive underground building…and the hundreds of thousands of workers needed…”was covered as road-building activities…”
The project supposedly started in 2004…yet by 2007 two long-distance tunnels linking the Simmern complex to the Furth and Kassel complexes was finished…this is a triangle of about 200 km per side…so 400 km of underground rail tunnel…
compare this to London’s Crossrail program which which has been going on for more than a decade and has 42 km of underground tunnels…which cost $23 billion…
The author goes into great detail about the various design aspects…including fiber optic cables…elevators…underground trains…freeze-dried HALAL food for 200,000 soldiers…hundreds of flat screens for Wahhabi videos…loudspeakers for morning prayers…a mosque in each complex…68,000 3-level beds…shower facilities for 14,000 men at a time…four hospitals with six fully functional surgical rooms each…huge storage tanks for diesel fuel…shiploads of containers of battle equipment including small arms and munitions…
The whole thing was powered by geothermal energy…but it proved to be inadequate…and planned nuclear reactors had to be scrapped because of lack of uranium…at which the translator helpfully interjects wondering why they had not made use of Tesla “free energy…”
One might logically ask, what about sanitation…?…300,000 subterranean, halal-eating jihadists are going to produce a fair bit of human waste no…?
This is not a trivial question for any mission where humans are expected to survive in an uninhabitable environment…for example spaceflight…
Not to get too far off track but how do you think astronauts and cosmonauts accomplish this basic biological function…?
The answer is not very easily…The Russian Soyuz spacecraft has since 1967 had an onboard toilet facility, while all Gemini and Apollo spacecraft required astronauts to urinate in a relief tube and collect fecal matter in special bags…the US did not have a toilet facility until the Shuttle…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_toilet
In any case…back to the tunnels…the author says that by 2005 they had finished the tunnels…but there was a problem with “waste dump”…it’s not clear what kind of waste she is talking about here…whether human or construction or industrial…but apparently the idea was to pump this “waste” to the surface and into a forest…!
That worked “astoundingly well” but caused the forest trees to die…gee who would have thought…
But this problem of dying forests above these secret jihadist bunkers was “covered” with a PR campaign about “pest infestation…”
Well…make up your own minds…but please…use some discretion when posting links…
@ Flankerbandit
Thank you for going through all that trouble to debunk the great bunker project. As you can see there was not a stampede of replies to that sensational post for some reason…
as we do not really have a Syrian current update(hope we get one soon maybe after SAA finished retaking Aleppo, Mosul “settled’, but note FSa numbers have been greatly boosted recently maybe? by ISSIS being at the head of the run away group from Iraq,but someone was saying very many had gone back to Turkey—-USA bombing Der al Zer can be read as “this way folks’ we’ll make it easy for you to re-group and head for Aleppo——–)….gonna post here but mods if preferred elsewhere please relocate……..[The moderators cannot relocate your comments- please all keep this in mind~mod dg]
“Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan claimed that the Syrian city of Aleppo and the Iraqi city of Mosul belong to Turks, speaking during an opening ceremony for an educational institution in Bursa on October 23.
Erdogan compared the way that Syrians and Iraqis have been driven away from homes because of the self-proclaimed Islamic State, to how Turkish people were once forced out from their cities”
video of his speech here
https://southfront.org/erdogan-mosul-and-aleppo-belong-to-turks-video/
Russian intelligence have you got this rogue element seeking re-establishment of the Turkoman empire in your “scoping” sights to really see the ‘scope’ of his intentions?
Here’s an opportunity for one or two who have expressed a displeasure with any of the first 4 stanzas of Alexander Pope’s Essay on Man to break down specifically what they object to in the next one, the 5th, Instead of being uselessly general and personal about it, it is possible to be specific!
I haven’t had time to read Essays on Man to the end. (It’s almost a book, in “heroic couplet” verse). But I intend to, because, as I have said, Pope’s works are said to be one of the principal sources of literary nutrition consumed by a young Alexander Hamilton, who was no slouch in his meteoric rise to historic significance, a very short time later, literally “out of nowhere”, ie orphanage in St Croix.
And I believe many judge grievously wrong in preferring Jefferson, Aaron Burr, or genocidalist Andrew Jackson over slavery hating, George Washington aiding, Constitution designing, industry promoting Hamilton.
So here you go,
Have at it, anyone
Seems to be about the ego,
And how its pride is spun:
V. “Ask for what end the heavenly bodies shine,
Earth for whose use? Pride answers, “’Tis for mine:
For me kind Nature wakes her genial power,
Suckles each herb, and spreads out every flower;
Annual for me, the grape, the rose renew
The juice nectareous, and the balmy dew;
For me, the mine a thousand treasures brings;
For me, health gushes from a thousand springs;
Seas roll to waft me, suns to light me rise;
My footstool earth, my canopy the skies.”
But errs not Nature from this gracious end,
From burning suns when livid deaths descend,
When earthquakes swallow, or when tempests sweep
Towns to one grave, whole nations to the deep?
“No, (’tis replied) the first Almighty Cause
Acts not by partial, but by general laws;
The exceptions few; some change since all began;
And what created perfect?”—Why then man?
If the great end be human happiness,
Then Nature deviates; and can man do less?
As much that end a constant course requires
Of showers and sunshine, as of man’s desires;
As much eternal springs and cloudless skies,
As men for ever temperate, calm, and wise.
If plagues or earthquakes break not Heaven’s design,
Why then a Borgia, or a Catiline?
Who knows but He, whose hand the lightning forms,
Who heaves old ocean, and who wings the storms;
Pours fierce ambition in a Cæsar’s mind,
Or turns young Ammon loose to scourge mankind?
From pride, from pride, our very reasoning springs;
Account for moral, as for natural things:
Why charge we heaven in those, in these acquit?
In both, to reason right is to submit.
Better for us, perhaps, it might appear,
Were there all harmony, all virtue here;
That never air or ocean felt the wind;
That never passion discomposed the mind.
But all subsists by elemental strife;
And passions are the elements of life.
The general order, since the whole began,
Is kept in nature, and is kept in man.”
Here is the whole, for free, online: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2428/2428-h/2428-h.htm
Should anyone of you be inclined,
To forge ahead of this, my turtle pace
To unearth treasure from this mine,
Or discover the fault, in this case.
Please take over, be my guest!
In a pre-Bistro Book Club exercise
To discover in a Café Caucus quest,
Buried truths, amid the damndest lies.
Thanks Bro for Alexander Pope, the great poet which has no equal in this genre. After such beauty, I don’t know how to tell you something totally different, something which provokes your mind…but here it is : do you remember these words : ” I have never had sexual relation with that woman…” true ! because it was a ritual. Here some pieces of that puzzle : White House, Oval Office, sperm, on violet textile, Clinton. All the rest put it together in time and space…
Bro 93 asked a pertinent question about the sources of the central thesis of my thought: that there existed at the origins of our species a love community that practiced “communal sex” as the core foundation of their society.
I will describe these sources but they are not the typical kinds that are associated with his-story history, which in my view, is extremely narrow and deliberately misleading.
Gene studies suggest that we go back to a common mother from 100,000 to 300,000 years ago. I use the 100,000 number.
Ancient myths like the Garden of Eve and Elysium speak of a Golden Age that was womam centered. These myths have been grossly contaminated by patriarchy which makes woman the source of evil; so they have to be reconstructed taking out the corruptions. The nakedness, innocence and lack of shame leave the door open for “communal sex,” although patriarchal writers would die rather than speak of open sex.
In evolutionary time, our species appeared rather suddenly on the scene with a dramatic change in features, especially with regard to the womam’s body: fur-less, no facial hair, developed breasts, availability of sex at all times, more pronounced menstruation and with a highly sensitive clitoris with four or five times the nerve endings of the male’s clitoris. See “Eve’s Secrets” by Josephine Lowndes Sevely. These and other factors suggest a society that was womam focal, and given her characteristics, sets up a probability of communal sex to satisfy her great sexual capacity.
It is a commonplace, that variety is the spice of life, so why would that not apply to sex as well? The appearance of womam indicates an ecstatic, joyful consciousness that would have reveled in sexuality unless crushed by an anti-sexual patriarchy into power.
Archeology from the stone age shows a society that was womam centered with hardly any male significance, and when it does appear it is part of a womam’s sexuality, like a female with penis necks. There are millions of female artifacts, some of which may have been sexual aids. This in itself does not prove women were engaged in communal sex but patriarchy was already taking over cultures for 75,000 years, gaged by hunting practices. The farther we go back in time towards the original love culture, the less artifacts and stone structures were necessary because we were in an immediate love state. This seems a reasonable conclusion although not provable by modern scientific prejudices.
It seems unlikely that our species could have survived at all if we had in our origins the qualities that we have today. We would have wiped ourselves out quickly if the wild carnivores did not get us first. This argues for an original condition that provided self-protection in the midst of an environment not suited to weak and fur-less creatures.
The fact that our babies are so helpless and needing a very long nurturing and protective time sets up a presumptive expectation of a society that had highly cooperative women with males who provided a defensive perimeter for them to thrive. With their highly sexualized bodies, why would womem not have sex with each other and with the men who enhanced their pleasure and co-procreated?
Nature is fundamentally parthenogenic which means virgin birth; that procreation goes from mother to daughter to mother, etc. Sexuality seems to be an enhancement of womam’s pleasure which adds variety and abundant energy to the humam experience, and perhaps experiment. Again, this would auger for a multi-relational world rather than a monogamous one. The tendency of nature is to maximize expressiveness, which is why death and decay are also necessary to leave room for ever renewed growth.
Then there is the analysis of words in ancient texts, usually written in language codes. The word Eden, for example, means basically “pleasure, where water flows.” All language ultimately reduces to a womam’s body, analogous to the millions of female artifacts of the stone ages. A womam’s body was meant for pleasure according to the maxim: destiny follows anatomy. Water is closely associated with a womam’s pleasure of orgasm when she ejaculates the waters of sexual fluids which have no overt procreative use. But they must have some value because they exist. Their value is sacramental which is to say they effect what they signify, and lead to rituals of memory and bonding.
A womam’s sexuality was communal; she ovulated and menstruated in timing with the moon and surely this was experienced together as a community. Again this sets up the probability of communal sex among womem with men also having as much sex as they could wish. The interplay of the water of wells, streams, rivers, lakes and oceans and the sexual waters of womem was experienced directly by persons uncontaminated by patriarchy.
Our lover ancestors did not have the blinders of reading, writing and ‘rithmatic that we do, not to speak of all our brainwashing. Their communication was oral, not written. That makes a huge difference in perception and immediacy of experience, sexual and otherwise.
We have lost almost all of these abilities but not all. We can also use our personal experience, internal and external, to discover for ourselves whether communal sex is real or not. Here we get into the science of “learyism.” Reliance on our own resources for truth. These may be very tenuous and ridden with doubt but they can be as proven and proof-worthy as modern methods.
With this kind of science, literally, knowing, we go from war room to cafe to love bower. In other words, we go deeper into our own natural knowing, and towards our lover ancestors of the love culture. We can touch them intuitively through the veils of time and space. In that case, this vineyard turns out to be a type of the Love Bower of our origins, community and all. A vineyard is literally a “vine yard,” a yard with vines.
The Love Bower of our ancestors need not have been a hut or a lodge. It could have been a clearing in the woods or in a meadow as large as a football field, surrounded by vines and trees, fronted by a stream or river with an artesian well at the center. Babies would have nursed, children played, teens flirted, adults went into the food forest around to pick fruit while the men kept a watchful eye on everything that moved, like the free animals piqued with curiosity at these naked skinned new-comers on the scene.
And yes, while the bright stars were out with the moon, on those warm balmy nights there was communal sex, the main pastime and pleasure of the community which all participated in according to their development and desires; all well-governed and safe under the protection of grandlovers, grandmothers and grandfathers. Eve means mother of all the living, one of the many clues that was so evident that it could not be totally suppressed by patriarchy.
Personal experience counts. I use it along with modern technologies of science. Eve ate fruit of the fruit forest. I have been on a fruit diet for a few months now in an attempt to reach into her space. The jury is still out but my body and mind are changing, that’s for sure. In some respects, I grow more and more weird according to our cultural norms but I can feel myself more attuned to a culture where communal sex was the norm, and where our lifestyles would be considered more than weird to them.
And who is to say that the imaginative realms are less real than the ones we have which lead to a graveyard rather than a vineyard of dreams? Is the Love Army real? Is the Love Cafe real? Is the Love Bower real? Is a vineyard born of an anagram real? Is a world of war real? I don’t know but there are ways of finding out.
In the ancient texts, vineyards are traditional places of making love, like the Song of Songs of Solomon. Are we in fact having spiritual communal sex now and we don’t know it? In the beginning of the Jewish bible, the spirit was hovering over the waters of chaos, the tohu wa bohu, like lightning over an ocean and a sexual sign of the waters of male and female in the original creation.
Communal love and sex is the heart of my “think love thoughts” philosophy which has a hell of a time in this war world. I want to run and hide but where can I go? There’s only one place I know and that is the Love Bower of many dimensions. Looking back on my life I see total system failure. Looking at the world through the lenses of this vineyard I see looming failure.
I look at the Love Bower as the fullness of life. It’s somehow associated with the Love Army and this Love Vineyard. “I may not make it to the top of hill, but if I don’t make it, you know my baby will.” So my dear fellow and sororal cafettes, “one more cup of coffee before I go–to the valley below,” that valley of dreams and womam’s streams, protected by mountain men of the hills.