2017/04/16 15:00:02
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Someone noticed something funny about one of the pointless little spats that occupies the news media.
https://gregfallis.com/2017/04/14/seriously-the-guy-has-a-point/
Short version: there’s a statue of a little girl fearlessly standing up to the Wall Street bull which has supposedly made some people annoyed or aggressive. But the news media are not mentioning that the statue was paid for by an investment fund that controls $2.4 TRILLION of the world economy.
To make this totally obvious, for these investment fund vampires, the welfare of those of us making $10k/year doesn’t really matter. What matters is only that we feel no alternative to accepting their plan. They don’t want us to recognize that their Empire is collapsing. They want us to think that protests or violent uprisings against Empire are necessarily bad things because “they can’t change anything” and people get hurt, while careful, systematic reform is the best way to keep everyone happy.
This statue embodies that. The stated justification, this blogger found, is to support something called the “Gender Diversity Index” fund. But the real justification is bigger than that. See… it doesn’t matter that most Americans are living in poverty now, or that half the wealth in the world is controlled by less than 50 people… it doesn’t matter that the institution of the family is being demolished, doing massive damage to women… because now women can suckle at the teat of the ultrarich just as much as men. We’re supposed to think of that as a great improvement for the human race.
The symbolism of secular society is full of purposeful inversions and distortions like this.
Nice posting. I think your summary was better than the original article.
I agree, The author of the article basks in too much impotent ambiguity.
He analyzes well enough, but is torn and indecisive.
Whereas JLSeagull digs deeper into the fact that psychopaths can easily and artfully manipulate feelings into an obscene agenda that is occulted, hidden from almost everyone who isn’t paying very close attention, and manipulate the unwary to take the side of the “little girl” and her not so little sponsors far too quickly, before they even realize what they are doing.
And that’s how advertising and more subliminal mind control manipulation works. People are in a hurry. They aren’t seeing. They are reacting. They are feeling, not thinking.
Here’s a little thing I remember seeing recently on how Madison Avenue has our dear sisters played like puppets, around feelings and symbols:
https://youtu.be/sT_3Tm1Twz8 at 18min30sec the Betty Crocker commercial as an example.
However, males are just as effectively targetted, if not more, because we are not as intuitive, generally speaking, as are women and little girls.
I am certain Mr Passio could break down how occult practitioners might have turned the Donald inside out in the last few weeks, without him even being conscious of how it was done to him.
So dismiss art, symbol, number etc at your peril. , folks!
BTW, since Larissa brought up Jared’s condo address (666 Park Ave If I recall correctly…..) and I said it might be nothing…(..there are people who could care less about 666, the 13th Floor…etc…. me, for example) but if there was more like that associated with him, I would be on high alert, I heard about an office of his, ALSO with street number 666. 5th Ave???
Given what has happened since and his age, I doubt if he’s the grand wizard hypnotizing his father -in law. But also given his wealth (100 + million??? and that perpetual grin on his face, like some idiot in Vegas on a lucky streak, I would suspect someone behind the scenes coaches him to riches and influence, and they are perfectly content to avoid any fame and don’t need 1/10 that amount of money, for themselves. Because all that is small, small potatoes compared to the value of pulling off the kind of coup we’ve been witnessing.
I’ve got an anomality, a diary of the coming week instead
of normal German Sunday-Tagebuch posted on Monday. Tomorrow I will translate it from English into German. Hes never been like such;
Charlies Day and Adolf’s Week
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2017/04/4_16.html
Thank you MM.. Oh may we hold strong long enough …
Jupiter, ancient ruler of Pisces, has given tutelage:
After the Mercury and Mars switch back
until one very long week when
Venus in resonance with the two
speaks
Into the breech of Solar Taurean feedback
and aligned with the Spirit Sun
makes bold Peace.
Saturn, hold Mercury’s hand and make Mars steady
Let all humanity for a different path make ready
@mm
“this new week beginning with Moon
in Capricorn
watching the preparing of a sober
period in the dreamers days”
Nobody, not even Capricorn, shall interrupt the dreamers and those in the lyre’s thrall. Bon nuit..
This is just like i see things happening. Listen:
” In a situation like this, the strategy of Moscow and its allies is to produce weapons systems capable of inflicting considerable damage to the United States at low cost, given that Moscow cannot simply print more money and pour debt on the rest of the world in order to finance its wars. A great example of this can be seen with the anti-ship missiles Moscow possesses, which are capable of destroying American aircraft carriers, considered the backbone of the US war strategy. A missile that costs hundreds of thousand of euros can cause damage to an aircraft carrier worth tens of billions of dollars, inflicting a mortal blow to the credibility of American military posture.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-political-suicide-pushes-china-iran-and-russia-closer/5585362
James Gibson on his brilliant study “Techno War – Perfect War” explained how NLF and NVA were so lightly and flexible organized in South Vietnam that their forces needed just 10 trucks supplies per day to keep fighting. Cost effectiveness is the key thing.
Indeed, the capacity to sweep the table of more or less all surface ships is from time to time in the grasp of an increasing Russian Navy – and liable to find some employment.
But it is almost always necessary to permit an opponent to retire with some grace…
If the sea is swept, then the opponent will attack in whatever way he can. It has become a domestic matter. Such instability is what I worry about…
Do not force an opponent to attack, leave him an exit.
He’ll beg for help soon enough…
The Vietnamese calculated the maximum ability of their people to sacrifice at 20:1 as enough for victory. So they did sacrifice but at what scale I do not know. Maybe 10:1? However, it was cut very close, plus, the old Soviet Union’s aid was critical.
In reality NVA/NLF losses (deceased soldiers) have been much lower than wildly exaggerated US body count claims.
https://faculty.washington.edu/charles/new%20PUBS/A77.pdf
Page 807: medium estimates 966 000 Vietnamese casualties, both civilians and ALL military forces.
Some 350 000 were civilians and some 600 000 – 650 000 were soldiers. When Saigon regime had their official figures of over 200 000 deceased soldiers then clearly NVA/NLF losses were about 400 000 – 450 000 deceased soldiers. Far from over million. Nowadays even Americans has admitted the problems with their body count claims (like in Operation Speedy Express in Mekong 1968-69)
And unlike Americans were thinking – the main force fighting against NVA/NLF was almost always Saigon army and its paramilitary forces, not Americans (in 1972 almost as many Saigon soldiers lost their lives as was killed US + ARVN/param. soldiers together in 1968). I’m not quite sure but it looks like NVA/NLF losses were likely 70-75% vs. Saigon army and paramilitaries and about 25-30% vs. US/S.Korea etc. Americans were not near as effective in battleground as their very selective official Vietnam War history is claiming. James Gibson had data showing that American battles there were 70-80% cases were GI’s were ambushed by NVA/NLF. Not a very good way to “search and destroy” to just become ambushed by enemy.
Anyone who “somehow” doesn’t understand what it would mean for Syrians (at best) to see the jihadis or as the US says “moderate terrorists” win in Syria. Here is what life even without war is like in the state the jihadis prefer to emulate the most. And the state that along with the US (and Qatar) is their main sponsor,Saudi Arabia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXje-RM314g
This is Holy Paska, or, as we say, Paaska or Påsk. The “å” is like “o” and it is wellknown Russians don’t distinguish between “a” and “o”. So why do Scandinavians use almost the same word? The Lord is risen. Psalm 116.
Sergei Lavrov on beltway strategy and George Orwell on war….
“…. Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, knows the score. He recently conceded that Moscow has a pretty clear grasp of the imperial grand strategy in Washington. He called it “managed chaos.” Couldn’t have said it better. Look at the Middle East and you’ll instantly see the plan in action. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Congo, etc. All flaming dumpster fires with no firemen in sight.
Men like Bill Kristol know this, too. As FAIR’s Adam Johnson astutely noted, Kristol penned a flurry of pro-vengeance puff pieces for various mainstream papers in advance of the Libyan demolition job in late 2011. Once Gadhafi was deposed, captured, brutally sodomized, and slain, Kristol banished Libya from his byline. Not a word in five years. Beltway cowards that hyperventilate about conflict remind me of George Orwell’s comment about war, “It’s the same in every war. The soldiers do the fighting, the journalists do the shouting, and no true patriot ever gets within a mile of a trench, except in the briefest of propaganda tours.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/14/opportunity-strikes-becoming-a-war-president-may-yet-salvage-trumps-presidency/
He needs to keeps close eye on Donbass at the moment….”drumheads of Ukraine troops”have been reported recently and today 300 NATO military advisors have arrived at Mariupol etc reports DNInews………Turning has said Ukraine should move east metre by metre, kilometre by kilometre…….
Kristol is one of the first on my list of criminals for speedy trial and execution at Nuremberg 2.
Sorry Franz, I am going to insist John McCain is given the spot at the head of the line.
Christopher Black has a very fine piece:
America Aggression: A Threat To The World
“Here in Canada the government and press proclaim their slavering support for the American war crimes, and are glorifying the useless slaughter of the First World War as the nation’s “defining moment.” Not the linking of the nation from Atlantic to Pacific by a great railway built at great human cost, nor the defeat of the American invasion in 1812, nor the defeat of the fascists in 1945; no, for they have become the fascists and relish the symbols of death, of slaughter, and all but worship war as our destiny and the death of others as a beautiful thing”
http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/17/america-aggression-a-threat-to-the-world/
For the French speaking crowd who purchased Thierry Meyssan’s latest book “Sous nos yeux”, there are several words and names which were censored by the editor in the French version. The Turkish version is uncensored and I filled in the blanks.
http://www.librairie-voltairenet.org/fr/home/85-sous-nos-yeux.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/article196007.html
Turkish version of the book as a free download in .pdf – http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Go_zlerimizin_o_nu_nde_11_Eylu_l_den_Donald_Trump_a.pdf
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Brice Hortefeux
Ziad Takiyeddin
Roland Dumas
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Roland Dumas
Conseil Constitutionnel
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Nicolas Sarkozy
Michèle Alliot-Marie
Amis
Carla Bruni
Cécilia Sarkozy? Pas de certitudes pour se nom car la version turque ne le précise pas non plus, parlant d’ex compagnes en commun avec BHL.
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Fahd Alargha-Almasri
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Alain Juppé
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Claude Guéant
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Roland Dumas
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Anne Lauvergeon
Alexandre Adler
Joachim Bitterlich
Hélène Conway-Mouret
Jean-François Copé
Henri de Castries
Augustin de Romanet
Laurence Dumont
Claude Fischer
Stéphane Fouks
Bernard Guetta
Élisabeth Guigou
Hubert Haenel
Jean-Pierre Jouyet
Alain Juppé
Pierre Lellouche
Thierry Mariani
Gérard Mestrallet
Thierry de Montbrial
Pierre Moscovici
Philippe Petitcolin
Alain Richard
Michel Rocard
Daniel Rondeau
Bernard Soulage
Catherine Tasca
Denis Verret
Wilfried Verstraete
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Gérard Bapt (Parti Socialiste)
Gérard Bapt
Gérard Bapt
Gérard Bapt
The Daily Mail’ s peter Oborne questions the authenticity of the alleged chemical attack nu President Assad and corruscates the weasel Rycroft as having form on false ‘ intelligence ‘ to justify attacks on sovereign counties – like the non- existent Iraqi WMDS:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4413520/I-feel-fearful-future-says-PETER-OBORNE.html#comments-4413520
Well apparently it may be possible to bring Blair to account for malfeasance sso it would be great if this person(ye gods, this kind of person representing uk population at the UN) would join him at the dock…..,.but so many seem unaccountable……??.
It would indeed JJ.
Can’t understand why the Russians at the UN don’t capitalize on this.
Rycroft has to be exception ally dim not to realize there is increasing pressure to hold Blairites accountable for the Iraq deceit.
Right now, Parliament is trying to block accountability, but the public is extremely hostile to Blair and associates.
Relevant and worth reading, iMO : https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/steven-latulippe/why-do-they-hate-him-so/
Travels over, for now and back home.
In view of the coming crash, it is liquidation time for rental real estate. All of it. It is predicted that tenants will not be able to pay rents and eviction courts will begin to seriously back up. Once you get to 6 month delays, people that never ever considered such behavior as being evicted will, if desperate enough, decide that they will join the crowd of non payers and unlawful detainer (eviction) courts make back up 18 months or more a common occurrence throughout the land of the enslaved and the home of defiant tenants.
Those of you who hate Google and Facebook will probably like this article:
http://www.thetradingreport.com/2017/04/12/silicon-valley-bubble-about-to-burst/
But it’s hardly limited to such “high end” places.
And behind it all is the simple fact that the Empire and its phony paper money schemes are failing because too much of the world’s territory and people are not totally in their shackles. Hence the drive for regime change and war, Donald Teeny Weeny Brain. Remember??
Here, a Russian named Safronkov is clear:
“Russian Deputy Envoy to the Security Council, Vladimir Safronkov, turned directly to the British Ambassador Matthew Rycroft, who had just denounced Russia for backing Bashar al Assad in Syria (and who had earlier been an aid to Tony Blair when the British launched the criminal war on Iraq). Safronkov correctly identified the British motive in their lies and war mongering: “You are afraid that we might work with the U.S. This is what you lose sleep over.”
This is exactly the British purpose. The British have used the United States as their “dumb giant” to fight their colonial wars ever since the assassination of John F. Kennedy – from Vietnam to Iraq to Libya and Syria, and now perhaps North Korea, which would bring all of Asia and the world into a nuclear holocaust. The British are willing to risk global nuclear war in order to prevent the U.S. from breaking the imperial division of the world into conflicting East and West, from uniting the entire world behind mutual peace and development, and ending Empire once and for all.”
From the daily briefing I have found well worth a quick look, almost every day for the last 39 years:
https://larouchepac.com/20170416/stop-war-party-shut-down-british-system
On the way here to the cafe I stopped at the main page and read the article by Scotty on Trump and the Generals. This is an old story since the military is always the ultimate power under the regime of patriarchy. That’s why in the current reign of power we speak of Anglo-Zionists where the Anglos come first.
Roman generals became emperors. Prince William hired Amschel Rothschild. Trump is just the last of a line of realists. He’s not selling out; he’s doing business as usual. What was the first thing Putin did upon election in the Chechen wars? He visited the generals and gave them what they wanted; he is still dong that. Putin and Trump are realists in realpolitik.
I have a hunch that the real military are the Anglos behind Trump. The Anglos are sending a message to the Zios that Roman Anglos come first in their arranged marriage. If Jared Kushner is really with the Zios and 666, Trump has a real problem, not just with a Roman praetorian guard but with his closest family. It’s the Jesus story of the Judas kiss of death.
I appreciated Bro’s link to Info Wars’ Lee Ann McAdoo interview of Mark Passio. Mark and I are on the same page but my book is different. He talks of a major and minor arcana. I use tarot as the framework for The Love Government, arranged according to Consciousness Cards. I do not use tarot in the usual way but as a conceptual system with the pictures as icons.
Mark speaks of five main archetype symbols: the circle, square, triangle, star and cross. These occur throughout the tarot which is based on ancient lore. The middle symbol of the triangle I reverse into its original orientation which is the Womam Sign of her pubic hair pointing down to her vulva.
This is the sign of signs and the archetype of archetypes. In the Love Government system it is the Lover or loverarchy which was rebelled against by the Patrix or patriarchy. The occult hidden Eye sits atop the male patrix pyramid to this day; and rules us all with an iron fist in a velvet glove except when the gloves come off.
I had to smile when Mark talked of the Betty Crockett cake mix psy-op. Add One Egg is deeper than we think. It’s not just a feminine symbol of her eggs but of the Lover’s vulva which is also egg shaped more or less; or like an almond or the human aura field.
These deep signs are sacramental which effect what they signify through the unconscious. And even below the conscious and unconscious is the motherlode of them all: the lovscious level. To implement Mark Passio’s solution we have to integrate not just the conscious and unconscious but the third element,, the lovsciousness. By doing so we can overcome ignorance and treat causes, not just symptoms.
I’ve been applying that diagnosis (dia-gnosis) to the vineyard’s causus belli, a carpe diem matter. In my opinion. Mark does not go deep enough. Gnosis or knowledge is not going to cut it. We have to go deeper than knowledge to love. In the Middle Ages the schoolmen debated the primacy of love and knowledge. I come down on the side of love.
Mark makes much of natural law, the binding, immutable, absolute, universal, non-man made creative force. He says call it God… “or whatever you will”– which ironically reveals the force that relativity has over him despite his best intentions. The use of words, and of God in particular, has unforeseen consequences. God is the Patriarch in Chief which is why I use the word love rather than any kind of god. The use of goddess by feminists is another trick of patriarchy by which women get hooked, “Goddess” being a diminutive God.
Passio rightly says freedom and morality are directly proportional. He wrongly says there is no moral relativism which he contradicts by his relativism statement regarding the use of the word God. Of course there are benign patriarchs and malignant patriarchs, an important distinction which I’ll get to.
There is no better modern illustration of patriarchy than Abby Martin’s story on Saudi Arabia linked to by Uncle Bob. The Saudis and their handlers, the US of A, still crucify contemporary Jesus archetypes and torture by terror and beheadings. This is just the open side of the Hidden Eye. “So sleep with one eye open in your slumber; every little sound just be be thunder, the thunder of his gun” (or beheading or crucifixtion).
The male masters mostly hidden target is womem who they have turned into women. In the patrix there is no legal opposition as in Eben’s house of Saud. The monarchy of patriarchy is not just medieval but evil for all ages. Monarchy is Moneyarchy. In the mind of Mark money versus moral are the two poles but like I said, he misses the middle which is loverarchy.
The House of Saud is just a misdirection from the Temple of Jerusalem as the Saker pointed out in his latest and greatest article. The Saudis are the scapegoat on the sacrificiai altar of Israel. 9/11 opened the path to the destruction of Yemen and all freedom lovers of sovereignty. Russia is the final solution where violence trumps biolence.
Trump is a wild card and so he had to be compromised early on. One person speculated that Ivanka was slipped a drug in her drink on a romantic night to make her fall in love with Jared. False love is blind as the saying goes and Ivanka may be undermining if not killing her father, a real tragedy.
[Just now my neighbor has discovered a dozen chicken eggs in a patch of dead leaves between our two places. I’ve been driving the chickens out of where I live so he is getting rid of the nest and giving the eggs to a lady who lives here. I bring this up as a synchronicity with Mark Passio’s take on the symbol of the egg. I do not wish to be an egg-head. I also am a vegan.]
This is already long and way past the attention span of our fast-food culture so I’ll get to the main dish later in this moveable feast cafe, which moves in synch with the Easter Pascha.
Finally, thanks to mundo for pointing out my 1054 error. I need to be corrected on my mistakes which is the point of this Communal Cafe.
Love, Dennis
Hi. No, both these links are not me. I did not know of them but they look interesting. To get to mine search thelovegovernment.com. The “the” is important. My work is also at youtube but I haven’t gone there in a couple years; I go to my own site so I don’t know what condition they are in on youtube. I’ve used the term “love government” for a few years but I don’t know if they copied me or I them unknowingly or if it’s coincidental that we have the same name. There is some of my very early work on youtube from 7/7/07 when The Love Government was inaugurated but that was before my website.
My work is not very professional in today’s terms. It’s a work in progress and only half done. I want to get away from youtube because it’s going the way of google which is pro-empire. My new work with Sex Tarot features nakedness so I need to get away from youtube not just because of my political views. I do not accept comments on my site but I do have an email contact address at the bottom of my home page. Cheers.
The Grotesque is so close to the Good but warped minds happily mix everything up into a disgusting witches brew called a love soup.
Well, break down the bad ingredients for us and show Dennis what to substitute, nonanonan, that makes all the difference between that which is good and that witch that’s bad.
It seems like, at a minimum, it extracts bile. Which might be almost as good for you as if it produced a smile.
Sup de Jour
Go for the gusto!
Demonize the lusto,
Say what is cussed so,
And what recipe we must know!
Let’s effect improvement,
Add spices and condiment,
Some ingredient or late gloop
That mitigates the hate soup.
French Onion, in a day built?
Nyet! Borscht neither! May guilt
Improve the briny Cafe broth
And whip the joint into a froth?
Maybe so, I don’t know!
Milk the cow, Cat Calico.
Conduct the choir, make it sing,
Take a chance, try anything.
Leary soup is no bland bisque
That Irish chef mixes his risk!
So,though sex is oft overrated,
At times it helps the constipated!
A pinch of nectar of the Gods
A dash of Star Anise
Essence of Eden
Some salt of the earth
And gold saffron fronds
Voila, sup de jour
Sans “middle finger is the sex finger” fresh from O’Leary’s site. You like that? Go ahead, smile, eat, drink and be merry, tomorrow we die.
Certified donor for The White Helmets.
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/George_Clooney_White_Helmets_Faces_of_Evil.jpg
And a poster (slightly altered).
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/The_White_Helmets_Faces_of_Evil.jpg
Kent
There are protests in the streets of Turkey’s major cities now as outrage grows over the referendum that gave Turkey’s leader new dictator powers.
The country is ripe for civil unrest and possibly civil war. Another mideast nation is led to chaos and mayhem.
Interesting item at
The Daily Bell detailing the decades- duration collusion between the UK-US “alphabets” and terrorists – which we know – but this also includes supplying and training in chemical weapon use.
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/false-flag-how-the-u-s-armed-syrian-rebels-to-set-up-an-excuse-to-attack-assad/
Really enjoyed this piece, written in modern news-speak, adopting a narrative that would be applied by today’s controlledMSM. An interesting interpretation of events that were the catalyst for the first Christian Easter.
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/body-of-executed-terrorist-mysteriously-goes-missing/
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201704181052728043-infowars-alex-jones-court-antics/
Infowars’ Alex Jones in Court: Antics Are All an Act as ‘Performance Artist’
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A child custody lawsuit pits “America’s biggest conspiracy theorist” Alex Jones against ex-wife Kelly Jones, who is seeking payments from the Infowars founder for child support. Kelly claims her husband is “not a stable person,” but the man US President Donald Trump once praised as having an “amazing” reputation is simply “playing a character.”
That’s according to his attorney, who says the antics come with the territory for the “performance artist,” the Austin American-Statesman reported.
[…]
Kelly Jones says Alex Jones’ Infowars rants are evidence of felony or that he is “unstable,” but Naranjo insisted the case is not about his profession. “This case is not about Infowars,” she said.
Alex Jones’ attorney, Randall Wilhite, also denies that his client’s words and actions can be a basis for evaluating Alex Jones’ capacity as a father. Basing a character assessment on Jones’ on-air shenanigans “would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute,” the report says, based on Nicholson’s portrayal of the Joker in the 1989 film Batman.
Wilhite argues that the opportunistic and extreme persona is solely a “character” Alex Jones plays. “He’s a performance artist,” the lawyer says.
[…]
Re Alex Jones_ It’s a good defence. Who or what is real anyway?
And he is in “show business” : each day he puts on a radio “show” and it’s his business….
A lot of people are suspicious of Alex Jones.
I have a sort of “fake or real” assessment tool.
Harsh, but – are they alive or are they dead?
Over the past almost 15 years since I clicked on “Building 7 explained”, most of the “real” ones ended up dead:
RIP Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Bob Marley, Michael C Ruppert. (Among others)
It’s only more recently as I explore Soros* have I come to understand “controlled opposition”.
Alex Jones has done some good stuff – but he mostly keeps people inside the sheep paddock…
In my view he is controlled opposition.
*for fun and diversion just wiki how many countries have had “color revolutions”… I was shocked at the roll call….
Some will argue (as they did with me), that it’s better to get at least some part of the truth (even if misleading and compromised) rather than listening to the total rubish of MSM. I’m not sure about such a pragmatic approach.
Anyway, I’m convinced that “who seeks, will find”…
This is both interesting and simultaneously controversial: ” Will the “Alt-Right” Hijack the Antiwar Movement? ”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/17/will-the-alt-right-hijack-the-antiwar-movement/
I haven’t visited many times Breitbart but it looks like the movement itself has been divided. Most of them were neocons angry to Bush economic disaster. Majority are what they are: “patriotic gun lovers”. The main point on that article is that old left peace movement is now dead fish. None of them are marching. Even when they hate Trump. None of them are marching. And Chomsky & Co are Russian/Assad loathers. In many ways US and western leftist peace movement is part of PC and mainstream liberal propaganda machine.
“Pro Assad”…
Question, for anyone. I keep hearing things like Col. Ann Wright on Load and Clear tonight saying ‘Assad did terrible things’. I can google up all kinds of accusations and propaganda, but I keep wondering what exactly did Bashar Assad do to the Syrian people that was so horrible beside not being able to change the brutal and authoritarian things hat were already being done and established over time, and reinforced by the grave threats to the country from being attacked (which, as with NK, throws into an emergency situation). As near as I can tell, Bashar Assad improved the situation significantly despite the horrible circumstances.
@blue. I second that request. It was something I was curious about myself from some time back.
I was not paying attention to anything geopolitical in the 1990s.
All I heard was Slobodan Milosovich was a terrible, terrible tyrant who “massacred his own people” . He’d committed terrible atrocities – which had to be stopped as this could not be permitted to happen happening “right in the heart of Europe”. President Clinton felt he just “had” to intervene : he had a “responsibility to protect”.
After the bombing stopped Bosnia dropped fro the pages of my newspaper ( yes, I bought 2 a day back then) and I forgot all about him.
It was only this year I “discovered!” he died in prison, and he had been exonerated.
Since then Saddam Hussein has come and gone as the tyrant de jour, then Gaddafi, now Assad and of course, the daddy of all Bad Guys, Vladimir Putin.
Having watched a serious amount of Putin on YouTube, and a fair bit of Assad, I too would like to understand – what are the charges against this guy?
“I too would like to understand – what are the charges against this guy?”
Too independent. Too secular leader of too secular Middle East country. But wait – i’m not claiming that USA is pro Jihad country at all. It just happens to be that Jihadists are working for interests of Empire. Being dictator or democratic leader, bad or good, crook or honest, is not preference of US foreign policy. They are irrelevant things. Both Merkel and Latino gangster could make Empire thumbing up.
Weight of Chains is worth watching in relationship to Milosovich.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08&list=PLUEYXYFtAOo4hConGyHe-tfzBelzz_RE1&index=2
I think I remember there was a lot about thousands political prisoners being tortured, photos of victims I think have been proven fake-questionable, certain doctor promulgating this kind of thing-just like a “discredited ” doctor being part of the recent chemical attack situation? Maybe if would be good to have an article with accusations -allegations being assessed and rebuffed….,.
LIke the US, and like all mideast countires, Assad has a brutal mukhaburat secret police/intelligence service that dealt with many subversives trying to overthrow his regime, and presumably this is what the west objects to.
Assad doesn’t always gas civilians, but when he does he apparently has Moscow tell the US when and where it is going to happen.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40222-new-revelations-belie-trump-claims-on-syria-chemical-attack
“The two unnamed senior Trump officials who briefed journalists Tuesday sought to discredit the Russian claim that the Syrian airstrike had hit a warehouse in Khan Sheikhoun that was believed to hold weapons including toxic chemicals. One of the two unnamed officials said that a Syrian military source had “told Russian state media on April 4 that regime forces had not carried out any strike in Khan Sheikhoun, which contradicted Russia’s claim directly.”
This Trump administration official appeared to be suggesting that there was no evidence that a weapons storage site had been hit by a Syrian airstrike. But an internal administration paper on the issue now circulating in Washington, a copy of which Truthout obtained, clearly refers to “a regime airstrike on a terrorist ammunition dump in the eastern suburbs of Khan Sheikhoun.”
More importantly, the US military allegedly knew in advance that the strike was coming: Russian military officers informed their American counterparts of the Syrian military’s plan to strike the warehouse in Khan Sheikhoun city 24 hours before the planned airstrike, according to the former US official who spoke with Truthout. The official is in direct contact with a US military intelligence officer with access to information about the US-Russian communications. The military intelligence officer reported to his associate that the Russians provided the information about the strike to the Americans through the normal US-Russian Syria deconfliction telephone line, which was established after the Russian intervention in 2015 to prevent any accidental clash between the two powers. The officer said that Russia communicated to the US the fact that the Syrians believed that the warehouse held toxic chemicals. “
It appears like the US and Japan are teaming up to try and lay off the “Korean Crisis” on China. I’m thinking their plan is to say “see,if the Chinese would do more.We wouldn’t be seeing this problem”. It’s the height of hypocrisy. But then we are talking about the “empire”. And that is always their MO.
On RT: “US, Japan agree China should play larger role on N. Korea
US Vice President Mike Pence and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe agreed on Tuesday that the two countries need to persuade China to play a larger role in dealing with North Korea, a Japanese government spokesman said. The two confirmed that China’s role was important in dealing with North Korea, and they needed to work on China to take on a bigger role, Japanese Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Koichi Hagiuda told reporters. With a US aircraft carrier group steaming to the area in a show of force, fears of a confrontation have been rising. (Reuters)”
Same old pattern, just like Russia is constantly blamed for not doing enough re Minsk , controlling Donbass ,or being more responsible for getting rid of Assad and agreeing/submitting to set up western style democracies in Syria made up from goodness knows what kind of moderate rebel-terrorist.
Folks who come here to read these stories have probably seen this following link, but incase you missed it, here is an entertaining 45mins – http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/meet-brad-birkenfeld-lucifers-banker
The US harpie at the UN is attacking Russia over the reports over homosexuals in Chechnya.
It never ceases to shock me that Russia stands silence when attacked like that. They seem to not understand that by not fighting back at the UN over things like that,it just feeds Russophobia in the World. They shouldn’t talk about the gay issue. Since almost all Muslim countries have anti-gay laws. Including ones they are friendly with. So that would be counterproductive.But the US has a huge “Achilles Heel” of racial relations in the country.And there are numerous police killings, almost daily of unarmed people. Its a national disgrace. Which they do nothing about. It is the “perfect target” for Russia to bring up in the UN Human Rights Committee. Turn Haley’s words around on her.And say ,” the police killings of unarmed people in the US can not be ignored” that “those people’s killings, targeting mostly racial minorities in the US must be stopped. And investigations launched to punish the guilty”. The US would be livid,and its doubtful they’d try a human rights attack on Russia again. There are countless videos showing those killings. So it would be easy for the Russian Ambassador at the UN to play some of them. And take photo shots from them to hold up in picture form.The sooner Russia starts to defend itself like that. The sooner the US will back off from those provocations.As long as they don’t defend themselves,the US will continue the provocations,one after the other.
http://theduran.com/nikki-haley-says-america-will-not-ignore-unverified-reports-that-chechnya-is-persecuting-suspected-gay-men/
@unclebob1
So you’re suggesting something like this:?
Experts find traces of US intervention in Russia’s 2016 elections
The problem is far bigger than attempts at meddling in the 2016 election process, experts warn
© Vladimir Lamzin/TASS
MOSCOW, April 18. /TASS/. General Director of Russia’s Political Information Center, Aleksei Mukhin, has said that his center has identified direct evidence of US intervention in Russia’s 2016 elections.
“As my colleagues have pointed out quite fairly, the problem is far bigger than attempts at meddling in the 2016 election process.
My center has identified direct traces of such interference and very serious and deep ones,” Mukhin said at a meeting of the State Duma’s information policies committee.
Legislators and experts are focused on whether the offices of the Voice of America and Radio Liberty radio stations, as well as the US television network CNN operating in Russia observe Russian legislation, and if they caused influence on Russia’s elections.
“As soon as Russia took the trouble of looking into the activity of some non-governmental organizations in its territory and adopted laws restricting that activity [it happened during preparations for the 2016 State Duma elections] it became clear that the United States had taken measures to create special units, including those within its armed forces, secret services, government agencies and also non-governmental organizations, for direct information confrontation with Russia,” Mukhin said.
In particular, he said, “the number of centers producing anti-Russian content, addressed mostly to the Russian-speaking audience, was increased.” Russia in fact became a direct target of such technologies.
“At the legislative level [in the United States] strategies of causing resistance to Russian information policies have been enhanced at the legal level,” Mukhin said. “Their implementation is a sure way towards intervention in Russia’s internal affairs.”
In March, the first deputy chairman of the State Duma’s committee for CIS affairs, Eurasian integration and relations with compatriots, Konstantin Zatulin (of the United Russia Faction), came out with a proposal for scrutinizing the activity of US mass media in Russia. He explained it would be a response to US Democrat Senator Jeanne Shaheen’s demand for investigating the Russian television broadcaster RT.
She argued that Russia’s multilingual channel telecasting its programs worldwide, including the United States, was in breach of US legislation on the registration of foreign agents.
More:
http://tass.com/politics/941917
Good morning. I want to “refresh” myself by a reprise of the latest cafe news before I launch out on my own enterprise.
@ Anonymous 4/17 11:29 pm: I checked out facebook.com/lovegovernment. It seems to be a flashy flash in the pan, combining new age American and Hindu cults. It’s a year or two old but has very few hits. It’s nothing like my website thelovegovernment.com.
@ a non anon: “The Grotesque is so close to the Good but warped minds happily mix everything up into a disgusting withes’ brew called a love soup.” Agreed. That’s why I distinguish between true and false loves. For that I need a clear mind which for me only comes by practicing the ten principles of the Love Army or the ten commendments of The Love Government (thelovegovernment.com).
@ Anonymous 4/17 11:14 pm: the Trump phenomenon is confusing. At present I find “Stefan Molyneux’s State of Trump address; week in review up currently at youtube the most correct. I also think that Trump is backed by the Anglo part of the deep state split. This is tentative so my opinion could change as time goes on. I remain hopeful with Trump.
@ White whale 4/17 11:19 pm: I also enjoy the Daily Beast’s news-speak on the early Christian Easter but I don’t think it reflects the MSM. It pretty well shows the story from a redacted scholarly and reasonable approach to that part of history. Faith, of course, is of another order.
@ blue 4/18 12:39 am: thanks for the Alex Jones in Court article where Kelly Jones is suing for child payments. She is apparently already getting $43,000 a month so don’t know what’s up with her but the case is the most expensive the judge has ever seen. After reviewing much of the evidence, I think Kelly Jones is correct that Alex is “playing a character, a performance character and not a stable person.” If it has not been already scrubbed, the top google search has a truthful video but much of the other ones against Alex have been already scrubbed. The “testimony of two witnesses” that the true video gave have been misdirected by tons of bible “two witnesses” in my opinion. This all refers to the case of Bill Hicks’ false death and reincarnation as Alex Jones. You can read the conflicting views and come to your own conclusion but before too long most of the material reflecting badly on Alex Jones will have been scrubbed. Same goes for Miles Mathis and Bob Dylan.
@ White whale 4/18 2:22 am: “RIP Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Bob Marley, Michael C. Ruppert”– other than Bill Hicks, I don’t know. I have checked into others like John Lennon and Charles Manson and think they were faked deaths. I think that Miles Mathis is an agent of the Anglo part of the deep state. I agree that Alex Jones is controlled opposition but not by the Zio faction but by the Anglo one.
@ Matthias 4/18 6:29 am: thanks for the Shamus Cooke article at Counterpunch on Trump. Like most leftist sites I think Counterpunch is either confused or bought out. I find Stefan Molyneux’ take more correct, especially his “State of Trump Address” from a couple days ago.
@ sadness 4/18 10:15 am: I tried to read the Zero Hedge article but could not get through the thicket of ads. Saker is right in rejecting advertising.
@ Uncle Bob 1: the Duran’s Nikki Haley speech on Chechnya gays does suggest that Russia is soft on responding to attacks but Putin is somewhat like Trump, caught in a power struggle of realpolitik. Again, I must defer to Stefan Molyneux’s late “State of Trump Address” and apply that kind of analysis to Putin and Russia.
Thanks for allowing me to clear my mind and get things off my chest here in this public forum. I need to take a break with break-fast before I get into the main course of my thought-dreams which Dylan sang about with regard to a guillotine. There’s a soft rain falling on my outdoor kitchen and office but I’ll fire up the woodstove so it will soon be comfy here. I hope you are well and comfortable too.
Love, Dennis (Ojai, California, 7:37 am Pacific Time)
There’s a new “charity” campaigning in the five eyes nations for all of us to stop using cash, just fancy that!
http://www.gocashless.org.uk/about-us
An interesting ‘ potted history’ of Chabad and its discontents with other Judaics:
http://religion.wikia.com/wiki/Chabad-Lubavitch_related_controversies
If one consistent trend emerges, it’s that most of the infighting centres not on religious interpretation, but on money, real estate and influence.
Many know what the Viking ships looked like, but how many know about the Russian ships? Take a look. Almost the same thing. Dragons.
Finns call the Russians “venalainen”, the boat people. Who where the boat people in the North? Do not expect todays politruks to tell you.
“Song of Stenka Razin. Russian folk song. Из-за острова на стрежень.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXc4AXAm7l0
Beautiful! I’m a boat person!
And I spent 3 years on one in the Bering Sea that had “Viking” in its name.
This Russian baritone reminds me of Baranov and the video of coastal waters reminds of Southeast Alaska and old Sasha Baranov’s command post at New Archangelsk (Sitka). Or maybe Puget Sound and the San Juan Islands!
Oh how I wish I could translate the lyrics! Soul Stunning!
Oh and the Love and the natural gender of it all!
The softness of the calm sea and gentle breeze, as tender as a sea maiden’s cheek.
Turns masculine with a sudden squall, as rough and stinging as the salt spray hitting the unshaven face of the man of the sea, sailing into the wind, like a viking knife.
Of course the vessel (boat) is feminine and we boat guys speak of “her” lines as being “fair” as in beautiful. Well maybe “just ” also. I never thought of that interpretation before.
And the sea itself is feminine, of course. The mother of all life that we all come out of.
What could be more sexy??
What do we do with drunken sailor,
What do we do with drunken sailor,
What do we do with drunken sailor,
Ear-lie in the morning?
Put him in bed with the Captain’s daughter,
Put him in bed with the Captain’s daughter,
Put him in bed with the Captain’s daughter,
Ear-lie in the mornin’
I want Dennis to have a good Wednesday. Being called a male witch is a whale of a bitch.
Of course that song “Way hay, up she rises!” is made famous by the Irish Rovers.
https://youtu.be/qGyPuey-1Jw
But like my shipmate on the ____– Viking, Ragnvald used to say about the Irish, “Everybody knows they’re just a bunch of shipwrecked Vikings, anyway!”
We always put the drunken sailor ‘ in the loft til he gets sober’ – not with the ‘ Captain’ s daughter’!
Any Captain’ s daughter worth her ( sea) salt would trash him sober and the rest of them too!
“Well, not long ago Pytor Andreich composed a little ditty. And when he began singing it to me today I joined in with one of my favorites :
Captains daughter, stay at home!
In the moonlight do not roam!
We had a difference of opinion. Pytor Andreich got very angry, but then he realised that everyone is free to sing what he likes. And that was the end of it”.
From: The Captains Daughter, by Alexander Pushkin
The adaptiveness of this ditty is endless… For all you Okie’s ( Courtesy YT poster ‘ Lenny):
Lenny Leggo Show
MEANWHILE IN OKLAHOMA ..
What do we do in a giant twister?
What do we do in a giant twister?
What do we do in a giant twister down in Oklahoma?
Way, hay, that house is rising!
Way, hay, that house is rising!
Way, hay, that house is rising down in Oklahoma!
Run out to the funnel and then take a group selfie
Run out to the funnel and then take a group selfie
Run out to the funnel and then take a group selfie down in Oklahoma!
Way, hay, that house is rising!
Way, hay, that house is rising!
Way, hay, that house is rising down in Oklahoma!
We’ll, run around in circles till it’s over
Run around in circles till it’s over
Run around in circles till it’s over down in Oklahoma!
Way, hay, that house is rising!
Way, hay, that house is rising! Way, hay, that house is rising down in Oklahoma!
Some propaganda filth from the IBT:
Strip Syrian President Assad’s British-born wife of her UK nationality Home Office urged
“social media posts allegedly made by the 41-year-old former investment banker backed Bashar and accused the West of lying over her husband’s use of Sarin gas” -nicely loaded propaganda.
https://ca.yahoo.com/news/strip-syrian-president-assad-apos-045935499.html
Fancy that -supporting her husband and telling the truth!
Outrageous! -It simply will not be permitted in a ‘free, democratic society’ like the UK.
“In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act”
Orwell or anonymous
The US has just sent troops into Somalia. One would wonder “why” would the US put new troops there. The last time the US sent troops to Somalia ended with “Black Hawk Down”. Well in answer to that question.There are reports that US oil companies believe off the coast of Somalia may be one of the World’s largest oil reserves. That one Somali region,”Puntland”,alone is supposed to have 10 millions barrels in reserves. So,one more massive looting of African resources is beginning to start.
@UB1
Yeah, but it’s Somalia which rates right alongside Yemen as “who gives a | **** |”.
Oh, and the obligatory /sarc, disclaimer, for those who lack the intellectual acuity to discern this themselves.
Hey! wait a minute, Wasn’t Somalia one of the “7 countries in 5 years?”. (See Gen Wesley Clark)
::::: back from a quick search, yep, yep, yes it was …….
So now, isn’t this Interesting??????
The rolecall to recap was : “starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”
I do agree. It’s not because Somalia or at least not mostly. The main target is Yemen.
Yes,I hope the countries on that list have paid attention to it.It should be “mandatory” study in those countries.But to my point on Somalia,the Duran has an interesting confirming article on the subject:
http://theduran.com/president-trump-now-bombing-somalia-can-guess/
The “Heroes” of Syria (and elsewhere).
Small: http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/White_Helmets_Photo_Op_Faces_of_Evil_resize.png
Large: http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/White_Helmets_Photo_Op_Faces_of_Evil.png
Kent
“Abd Alkader Habak rushes a wounded boy to an ambulance after a bomb attack Saturday in Syria.
Photographer Abd Alkader Habak calls himself an “anti-Assad” activist. He works in areas controlled by al Qaeda and turns out “fake news” photographs of Russian bombing victims and other minor holocausts staged for western audiences. This is false flag terrorism at is sickest. He works closely with a CNN producer named Waffa Munayyer, who we know to be an officer in Israeli intelligence.
The children on who were killed with their families were fleeing those Habak works for. His people killed them. He was there to be part of it. As Jim W. Dean so often says, “You just can’t make this stuff up.” Habak and his friends had been shelling these kids and their families since 2014, had cut off their food supplies and water, had made their lives a misery because they continued to hold out against terrorist rule.
CNN misses this part of the story, we don’t.
We see him in the photograph above running with a child, identified in the CNN article below as a dead child. Problem is, Habak works for the people who killed the child, he is a paid propagandist for Jabat al Nusra that blew up the bus. He was brought there with the bombers themselves who couldn’t resist one last terror outrage, this time dragging one of the bodies of their victims out of the wreckage and defiling it for propaganda purposes, something done all the time in Syria.
You see, we know Habak very well, we have followed his work and that of his network of friends, some Israeli trained, others paid by Qatar/al Jazeera, some paid by MI6 and the CIA, that being the White Helmets.
Every bomb that hits an al Qaeda command center is depicted by Habak to hit a school or orphanage. We have confirmations that, in order to get needed photographs, al Qaeda will butcher locals and throw their bodies around and we also have confirmations that this is done with full cooperation of the photographers who work safely in their region. Any real independent journalist who got near al Qaeda would be beheaded instantly, let’s be clear about that. Those that work with them are al Qaeda.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/17/busted-idlib-gas-attack-fakers-murder-68-kids-in-bus-slaughter/
How about this one: Veterans Today blaming RT-News becoming another media infiltrated and co-opted by Israeli assets?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/18/rts-love-affair-with-trump-and-fakery-in-full-swing/
“There was a time when RT produced some good material, including some good work on 9-11, but long gone are the days when they can be trusted, they have become just another part of the MSM, controlled by the same people as all the rest and playing the role of controlled opposition. It is obvious that RT has been deeply infiltrated and co-opted by Israeli assets, what is less clear is why this situation has been allowed to exist for quite some time, at least a year, maybe two. The current state of RT is damaging to Russia on many levels but sadly it seems that the Kremlin fails to grasp just how damaging it is to continue to allow this state of affairs to exist at what is a state funded broadcaster.”
The Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting was awarded to the New York Times on April 10 for reports on Russia’s foreign policy.
Writing propaganda for the Empire really pays off in the west.
The Saker deserves a prize for writing about Russian policy.
More:
http://tass.com/politics/942112
When they start referring to the legitimate Syrian government as ‘ regime’ you’ll know its all over bar the shouting.
The website is 80% liberal propaganda to 20% actual truth.
It regularly includes some porno clickbait – practically free ads for Pornhub in the thin guise of ‘ news.’ And always LGBT ‘ victim’ stories – though they’ve become a lot less frequent compared to last year, when they were an almost daily occurrence.
Hardly representative of Russia’ s civilisational direction under Putin…
Good only for an alternative to MSM on geopolitical events – total MSM crap at every other level.
Recommend its docs though – they are pretty good.
But for how long?
Re: attacks by the Death Star on RT and why not to join in.
We must have some sense of core issues or the agents of the Death Star will delight in their divide and rule over us.
Yes, RT is “soft” on some issues but if you want “hard line” go to fortruss.com.
RT does very credible reporting on the MidEast but without much depth, say on Mosul, features some helpful talk shows, and reports items like this ( although they seem to have lost interest in Donbass)
https://www.rt.com/news/385299-kadyrov-interview-chechnya-syria/
Horrible results when collection data which media in my country has published VIPS-memo to Trump or MIT professor Theodore Postol’s critic to Idlib CW case in 4th of April 2017. Only one provincial main newspaper published the VIP-memo having readers to just 1% of citizens of my country (Finland). 99% of people don’t know anything of this:
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/11/trump-should-rethink-syria-escalation/
and this…
https://www.scribd.com/document/344995943/Report-by-White-House-Alleging-Proof-of-Syria-as-the-Perpetrator-of-the-Nerve-Agent-Attack-in-Khan-Shaykhun-on-April-4-2017
funny the twister-song, yes even in Sakers Cafe, the news-twister is roaring
of comments, while while without God and Vladimir all smart analyses would be
in vain, so keep it a bit less hysteric calme a bit down, try to leave the first – comment-a -day alone as long as you can
while everyone of us commenters is moves about 0, 00…% of the world’s details.
The only thing one can move is onself and the only war one can stopp is
in onself.
This is love, given into the heart by no intellect or moral, Sun is heart, Mercury is intellect, Venus is moral but only God might ignite a heart to burn – when it has becom child enough … and cold-hearted hot-headed analyses and “beware”s keep us running
but well in the Vineyard I take refreshment in our sometimes poetical breathing
and in my own poetical weekly game
You should give this one a trial because it is a merger of “mundanes Tagebuch” and “atromundane diary”, which never happened before,
I sat down on Easter Sunday to do a Tagebuch and came down with a diary.
On Monday I posted the first ‘German- American astrological diary’
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.de/2017/04/der-ouroboros-von-mars-und-merkur.html
And this is today to the point 4. 19. 2017 : 10 Years after the first blog on 4. 19. 2007 . The start of the current 10 years after 25 years of astrology before then.
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.de/2007/04/20.html
Cheers, (freebeer for all)
A very interesting article in The Duran. A US “body language” expert has studied Assad’s body language in an interview he gave after the chemical and US missile attacks.And says he is being truthful about those. They also studied a recent interview with McMasters (NSA for Trump) and found his body language saying he was lying about the US’s actions in Syria. According to the expert,they think,McMasters and Nikki Halley are “calling the shots” in Trumps Syria policy. So I think from that we know what to expect from the US in Syria:
http://theduran.com/body-language-expert-says-assad-telling-truth-syria-chemical-weapons-mcmasters-lying/
Viktor lost a lot of money when he came out as a Christian. Here we hear him sing a Russian hymn that is wellknown around the world. He is Finnish, but he is multilingual.
Viktor Klimenko Psalm 100 (Russian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZHkIt5XPo
When my mother died, the Lord helped me understand her better. I was raised as in the 19th century, in a cruel way, and ran away from home when I was perhaps 12. I never came back. Now I understand women better. She did what she thought was right, but it did not work in the 50s.
Виктор Клименко: «Мама»
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SanBeFRvBmQ