Moveable Feast Cafe 2017/05/10 … Open Thread

Hysteria over Trump firing Comey has kept his meeting with Sergey Lavrov off the main page :

http://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1329731-20170511.htm?spTabChangeable=0

Let’s hope Trump was enlightened.

And who knows, but maybe the timing was premeditated?

W-H-A-T?????
Just found this:

With former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger (left) at his side, U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to reporters after his meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., May 10, 2017 / Reuters

https://www.rbth.com/international/2017/05/11/russian-foreign-minister-pencils-in-first-face-to-face-putin-trump-meeting_760699

The RBTH site has a pic of Kissinger sitting beside Trump, but the
pic is cropped on the Reuters source site.

Fascinating……. Henry “Swamp Creature” Kissinger. Sitting beside Trump. Immediately following Trump’s meeting with Lavrov.
Why was old reptilian Henry there? And WHAT was old reptilian Henry telling Trump?
Inquiring minds need to know.

How close is the US to civil war or violent revolution (or both)? And can it be prevented (assuming we’d want to) and if so how? Twenty years ago,I’d have laughed or just smirked if that topic was mentioned. But today I see that as a valid question and something to seriously consider. In the more recent past, the 1960’s,was laid the seeds of the US’s current problems of racial,ethnic,and ideological problems.

The 1960’s saw the US dramatically changed. I’m not going to argue that the US prior to that period was a “good” country. That I think would be stupid. We all know that imperialism has been almost a religion in the US from the beginning of its existence. So that isn’t the point of this comment. The point is that before the 1960’s the US was understandable,as any imperial power is understandable. Its the internal structure of the US that dramatically changed.And that changing has paved the road for a possible civil war.

As that decade began the US was mostly an internally united society. The Cold War was ongoing with the USSR (and China). But for most people in the US it was just an accepted reality.And the populace didn’t think much about it on a personal level. A new “liberal” (in the US classical meaning of the word,labor and civil rights) President had been elected to office. The Civil Rights movement in the US South was starting to move into high gear. Exposing the myth of equally much of the US’s people (and much of the World’s) believed was true in the US. To some extend it was ,in more than half the US,at least legally. But in one major region,right to equality held little sway. As the decade wore on that became ever more apparent to most Americans and people Worldwide.After doing nothing, hoping the problem would go away. The violence reported almost daily in the US South ,against black Americans, forced the Federal Government to intervene. And to make a long story shorter,the US Congress passed laws promoting “legal equality” nationwide.The long established “apartheid-lite” system in the US South was dismantled.

That alone was a massive shock in the US.But nothing compared to those to follow.The political situation internally changed almost overnight. The Democratic Party that for a 100 years in the US counted on the white South to vote for them. And who had been seen as a supporter of segregation in the US South by whites. Almost overnight was seen as the party of minorities in the US South. And the massive white vote there switched over to the US Republican Party. The Party of Lincoln. Who until then got very few white Southern votes.The Republicans have dominated the majority white vote in that region since that time.

Four (one to be talked about later and Civil Rights I already mentioned) major situations continued the shock waves in the US. The first was the so-called Cuban Missile Crisis. From the late 1800’s the US had exercised imperial domination in Latin America. With the closer to the US a country was ,the harsher that dominance was. The “carrot and stick” was the policy in South America. But in Central and Caribbean America it was more the “stick and the carrot”. With the US carrying out “regime change” at the drop of a hat. The new US President saw that policy as giving communist ideology a weapon against the US, and wanted to curtail (if not end) it. But just before he came to power one of the closest to the US of Caribbean countries (Cuba) .Had a popular revolution.Expelled a dictator fully supported, until almost the last minute, by the US. And a young revolutionary anti-US leader came to power instead.

The US’s CIA convinced the new President, Kennedy, that the way to “deal” with Cuba’s Castro was to assassinate Castro. And/or to sponsor his enemies (mostly supporters of the fallen dictatorship) to invade Cuba and conquer it. Kennedy had a lot of “irons in the fire” at the moment.The US Civil Rights movement,relations with the USSR,Vietnam,another “gift” from the previous US regime, that along with Cuba colored his short rule of the US.And also his policy of convincing Latin Americans that the “bad old days” of interfering in their countries was over. He wanted to “defeat” communism from the Left. To champion some of the same ideas that spawned support for communism Worldwide.But his support of the CIA’s plans ended his chances of accomplishing that policy switch. He continued it to the end of his rule. But it had no chance of success after his caving in to the CIA over Cuba.

He told the CIA leadership that he would support them training and arming the counter-revolutionary “rebels”. But would never allow US troops to be used in their actions.They “neglected” to tell their Cuban stooges of that. Knowing they would never had tried to invade Cuba without US air power aiding them.So they convinced the “rebels” that the US would support their invasion with military power if they were in need of it. They invaded Cuba,were quickly defeated. And Kennedy kept to his word and refused to send in the US military to save them. The rebel survivors were livid and believed they had been betrayed “by Kennedy”,not the CIA. The CIA was also furious with Kennedy and considered him a coward. He for his part never trusted them again. And spoke until his murder (was it connected?,many believe so) of dismantling the CIA in the future.

Cuba moved closer in relations to the USSR and fully embraced communism after that invasion. They were constantly worried about a repeat invasion. This time with US troops. A move advocated by the US military command of the times. Castro asked the USSR for nuclear missiles to be installed in Cuba as a Soviet guarantee of protection from US invasion. The USSR had recently seen the US move nuclear weapons into Turkey as a threat to the USSR,and was agreeable to Cuba’s idea. Once it was learned that nuclear missiles were being installed in Cuba,the US went into hysterics. That was the kind of move they make against other countries. How “dare” another country do that against them. We came as close to a WWIII as the World has ever been. Finally after much chest thumping on both sides. Kennedy made a “deal” with Soviet leader Khrushchev. The Soviets would remove the missiles in Cuba. The US would pledge not to invade Cuba. And the US would “quietly” remove their missiles in Turkey. That crisis woke Kennedy up to how close the World came to destruction. And in his last months of life he talked of deescalating tensions with the Soviets Worldwide.Trying to remove the US troops from South Vietnam. And what may very well have been the main reason for his murder. To normalize relations with Castro and Cuba. A kiss of death at that time,to the anti-Castro Cuban exiles,and the US “deep state” section of CIA and Pentagon. Regardless if the reason or not,Kennedy was murdered,and a more “pliant” President replaced him. To lead the US to its next dramatic moment in the 1960’s,Vietnam.

No sooner had the shock wave of Kennedy’s murder died down. The US populace awoke to the disastrous Vietnam War. Another “defining moment” in the US’s 20th Century. Before Kennedy the US had supported their stooges in South Vietnam with arms and a few “instructors”. But Kennedy still under the CIA’s and Generals “spell” at the time was convinced that if South Vietnam “fell” to communism and was reunited with their ethnic brothers in North Vietnam (that until the 1950’s they had been). Then all Southeast Asia if not all Asia would “fall” to communism. Much more arms aid,many more “instructors” flowed into South Vietnam.But it didn’t help. The “nationalism” of the Vietnamese was too strong.And the South Vietnamese moved slowly but surely to defeat. The US even resorted to a bloody coup,replacing their South Vietnamese puppet with another one easier to control. But nothing worked. Until the Generals told Kennedy it was either send US troops, combat troops ,or it was defeat. He agreed,but as his plans for detente with the USSR and Cuba matured. He had second thoughts. And talked of ending US involvement in the disaster of Vietnam before the US was even more committed (possibly another major “nail” in his coffin).

With Kennedy’s murder the new President,Johnson. Was convinced by the Generals to “go for broke” in Vietnam. And the Vietnam War almost destroyed the US’s social structure.Before it was ended in defeat.Millions of US troops served in Vietnam over the years.With at one time around a half a million in South Vietnam. Over 55,000 US troops died in that war. And it changed the US almost to its core. It spawned anti-government movements among the young. That eclipsed even the Civil Rights movement in its scope.The US became so desperate for human cannon fodder that they abolished college determent’s from the military draft.Causing “middle-America” to turn against the war. Johnson was forced to not run for re-election because of the war. And the Republicans gained the Presidency with Nixon as President. He won with a slogan of ending the war,claiming he had a “secret plan” to end it. But instead he expanded the war to surrounding countries bordering Vietnam.Increased bombing in North Vietnam. And only when none of that worked was finally forced to admit (privately) defeat and negotiate a peace and withdraw US forces from South Vietnam. His “peace” collapsed shortly after and the US fled from Saigon as North Vietnamese troops entered the city and united all Vietnam into one country (once again). It was the worst (most open) defeat in US history.

The legacy of those major events in that decade set the stage for today. The Civil Rights movement,the Cuban missile Crisis and the Vietnam War led to massive political turnover in the US. And spawned movements that changed drastically American society as a whole.But with all of that (and deeply embedded in it as well) was the most massive transformation in the US. There was a two fold assault on the US social structure. The first part was the rise to the heights of power of zionism in the US.

For years zionist Jews had worked to embed themselves into the US centers of power. They gained control over much of the media,and academic circles in the US. As well as traditional centers of power in banking and financial institutions. They gained prominence in science, and the leading elements in what we would call today “liberal movements”. They became some of the main contributors to political candidates,especially in the Democratic Party. Which espoused a philosophy that they helped to mold.Where they were lacking was in government service itself. But starting in the 1960’s they began to infiltrate that bastion as well. Starting to an extend in the Kennedy regime.Gaining even more influence with the Johnson,and Nixon regimes.

Knowing that depending on the Democrats alone would not give them the power they needed to control US policies. Starting with Nixon they also reached out to gain influence with the Republicans. Using Christian religious movements to create a “Christian zionist” following. Especially among Protestant Christian sects. And contributing vast sums to Republican candidates. That double pronged strategy allowed them to slowly gain control of the top elements of both parties in the US power structure.

But what was the point of gaining that control? It had two purposes.One was to assure US subservience to Israel. To make sure the US would never question Israels actions. And no matter how Israel broke the bounds of morality and international law. The US would “always support them”. But what would happen if the US population was to one day reject that control. What if a candidate was to arise who might gain power ,not under zionist control. That was a threat that couldn’t be permitted. But how to prevent the US people from doing that. The answer was to “change the population”. To change a racial majority of 85% into a minority. And create a nation in which there was no true majority. But only large minorities. Which would be easier to control (divide and conquer,is as old as time itself). Zionists, and their supporters pushed in the 1960’s to change the immigration laws in the US. And admit many millions of peoples of all ethnic and racial backgrounds. As well as not allow strict laws on border controls to be enacted. They believed (rightly) that “multiculturalism” would destroy any unity in the population of the US. Allowing for the zionists to be the power brokers in US society. It worked beautifully for them.

Over the decades since then they have branched out even more to spread “diversity” in society. They took a “liberal movement” that once was about the rights of the working and middle classes in the US. And instead has brought them to “feminism”,feminism of sexual rights,not as before, income and voting equality.They spearheaded the movements for gay rights,transgender rights,and dividing people by race instead of class.The more diversity,the more power they would gain. Its as simple as that.

Their plans worked so well for them over the decades, post-1960’s,that they worked “too well”. They’ve created so much disunity and divisiveness in society that nothing can be agreed to by a clear majority anymore. The election of Trump has given them a fright. He was the type of populist they feared so much in the past.But as he is a strong zionist himself, its difficult for them. One part of them is strongly against him. Working 24/7 to destroy him. While another group of them thinks that if he isn’t destroyed they can still control him. But in the nation itself. The racial minorities they’ve backed are beginning to not obey them. They have “wants” that aren’t in-tune with those the zionists support. And the country is so split into factions its harder for them to control the situation.

They have managed to keep most control over foreign policy. And through the neo-com movement they helped create. And are so important in. To control the US relations with most of the World. Especially in support of Israel. But also against Russia and China. The only two main threats to their globalist interests. They have managed to divide the US from its own best interests. And divide the population into so many small segments that there is a huge danger that a Civil War might break out internally in the US. Or that their insane policies globally might spark a World War III.

“Stephen Hawking among 33 scientists on offensive against critics of popular universe origin theory ”
https://www.rt.com/news/388245-big-bang-bounce-hawking-letter/

2 Thessalonians 2:10b-12
“because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: {12} That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

Note the number 33. Pathetic delusionists…

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The ”Wild 90s” in Russia, as reflected in people’s memory, Part two

http://stanislavs.org/2017/03/

Take Care
Kent

President Polymath.
Putin really is a Renaissance man.

In the span of just one week he has:
1/ Insouciantly trolled a bobble-head US journo (actually, only low points awarded here, as it is just too easy for him)
2/ Played ice-hockey (and taken a spectacular tumble!)
3/ Consulted with the Russian Security Council regarding de-escalation zones to bring Peace to Syria. Plus Lavrov’s meeting with Tillerson and Trump (signalling a major rapprochement in RF-US relations).
4/ Joined with Chinese President to open the global OBOR summit in Beijing

AND

5/ Entertained himself (and entourage) by playing piano while waiting for Chinese delegation.

More:
http://tass.com/society/945781

BEIJING: Russian President Vladimir Putin has played the melodies of two popular songs “Moscow Windows” and “The City Over the Free Neva” as he was waiting for his meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping.
Before speaking at the opening of the international forum “One Belt, One Road,” Putin arrived at the Diaoyutai state guesthouse in western Beijing where he was expected to hold a series of meetings with his foreign counterparts. While waiting for a meeting with his first foreign counterpart, Xi Jinping, Putin sat down at the piano and played a couple of melodies. (Pic!)

More:
http://tass.com/society/945781