Moveable Feast Cafe 2017/09/02 … Open Thread

Get it b4 it’s gone!
ends sunday midnight sept. 3
mostly monsatanto, but of course being bought by bayer they’ll still be around, & there’s still all the others (dow, syngenta,…)

this came out of nowhere, & turns out was same ones behind it as put out the series late 2015 ‘Truth about Cancer’ which i wasn’t even aware of ,

ALL 9 documentary episodes/interviews free to watch, some are up on utube but likely not for long, i note not episodes 5 & 9 there as of today saturday.

All are well over 1 hour each, most near 2+ hours.
They also are offering various bought sets of vids & mp3’s for permanent record links on page also.

just look below the video window here episode 1 you’ll see the others.
GMOs Revealed Episode 1
http://www.gmosrevealed.com/episode-1-rw/

I guess those generals in Trump cabinet like to play hard ball with Russia. It must lost very bad in Syria, and want to stop Russia before it start in Afghanistan. Or maybe just trump trying to stop bleeding in front of deep state…

@one minion

Wounded angels comes out stronger on the other side, Always!! (might take some time and struggle)

You know that, You’ve been there. Keep it.

For you: High res. http://fotovision.no/GLP1/X_0002_WoundedAngelMiller.jpg

People ARE strange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY8jJkDoMY

And, thank you for the “mood” thing

@Bro 93
“I Like the edge, the rapid fire kinetic energy of Kent’s Target Practice at the Vineyard Shooting Range”

IF, you don’t practice. How will you ever learn to “shoot”?

No pun intended: http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/Tempelridder.jpg

Take Care
Kent

And. If you haven’t had enough of Eivør Pálsdóttir. Just one more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsl-KHGe4Kk

Kent

In the evening when I simply post articles with extracts, they are posted fairly quickly. But when I write a lengthy commentary, these are sometimes not posted, or posted with parts missing (with no explanation) or posted half a day to a day later. Around a week ago a comment I posted was posted, but then removed about a day later. This is the sort of control freak nonsense one finds on zionist or right wing sites.

This reminds me of how trump says earlier this week how he wants better relations with Russia, and does the diplo closure/search bs. Coincidentally, my latest comment to disappear just happened to be about that.

The Nordic countries are culturally close. Sissel, a Norwegian, sings a Swedish psalm on the Faroe islands, today a part of Denmark. Spread your wide wings, a reminder of how Scandinavian languages have influenced English, not the other way around.

Sissel Kyrkjebo, 1991, Bred Dina Vida Vingar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIySixoqwnU

Is this related to escalating DPRK tensions?

http://www.seoulnews.net/news/254577579/white-house-could-move-to-withdraw-from-south-korea-trade-agreement-soon

Hi Saker Community, Although I’ve been a reader for a long time this is my first post. So firstly a thousand thanks to Saker and his colleagues for being a light in the darkness.

https://www.rt.com/news/401869-moscow-muslims-myanmar-solidarity/
Usually, I’m a big fan of Ramzan Kadyrov so it is a shame to see him being sucked into this US propaganda. Myanmar has a long border with China and substantial petrochemical reserves so you know what happens next…
https://www.rsc.ox.ac.uk/news/weapons-of-mass-migration-forced-displacement-coercion-and-foreign-policy-kelly-m-greenhill
The Indian government has built a 3400km barrier fence along its border with Bangladesh but Myanmar has no such luxury so since the 1970s Northern Rakhine State has gone from 10% Bengali speakers to 98%. Several well equipped terrorist groups funded by Saudi Arabia have sprung up in recent years and declared this region to be an independent Islamic nation. The main role of the Burmese military is the suppression of secessionist armies so they have responded with predictable brutality.
Even the word ‘Rohingya’ is a postwar invention, derived from the Bengali name for Rakhine State. The original 10% Muslim minority in Rakhine State are descended from British Indian settlers from before WW2, and of course there has been a substantial Burmese Muslim minority (Pathi) happily settled in Myanmar since the 9th century, so it is not a religious conflict. The entire ‘Rohingya crisis’ is fabricated propaganda.
My guess is that the purpose is twofold; to bring Myanmar to heel and to find a way to extend the global ‘war on terror’ into Buddhist Asia. Since Islam and Buddhism have no historical conflict one has to be created by inciting nationalism (Ashin Wirathu is actually not much different from Marine Le Pen or Geert Wilders).
The true Buddhist view of Islam is briefly discussed by His Holiness the Dalai Lama in this interview with Fox News.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGWVgGfdP8

questions in ALL sorts of relations to anything.

Repeat, I know, from when? Where?

Anyway, “Majesty”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGx1Eo1nSY

Kent

I sure do love this cafe “on the rising curve, where the ways of nature will test every nerve, where you won’t get anything you don’t deserve, where we were born in time.” Dylan.

Peace to all on this Labor Day in the US of A. Some labor to get; I work to forget.

My son, Francis, has moved into my motor home, while I live in the outback thirty feet away. Yesterday we loaded up his Tundra Truck with Apolonia’s plants and baby trees, which I’ve been caring for, since she moved up north to the California Valley Carizzo Plain National Monument. Our Labor Day fun is to return them to their mother.

Before I go from this valley below, I want to do some “housekeeping.”

LZ99, I don’t know of any Bob Heinlein house here. From searching I see he did live in the Ojai Valley 70 years ago. If I get the opportunity, I’ll ask some of the local historians here.

In enjoyed the tete a tete repartee between Jar Gone and Kinterra’s poem on demand. This cafe is indeed a “information karmic clearing house.” Before coming here, I hung out at Information Clearing House, which the vineyard has now become for me + the karma clearing.

JJ, I read some of Edmond Bordeaux Szekeley, and sensed another clearing house in the desert among the submarines.

Anon, thanks for the clarification regarding Sgt. Schultz and Col. Klink. Not a laughing matter, but I did anyway.

Thanks to Brother Bro for the link to the Lone Ranger. I was raised on him. Fits my persona, and is well suited for this cafe’s mission to save the world. I can hear those mission bells ringing, and angels singing.

Love, Dennis, Ojai and the Carizzo Plain, 7 am pacific time

Federal Taxpayers Do Not Fund the Federal Government; The Federal Government Funds Federal Taxpayers
Posted on September 4, 2017 by Ellis Winningham
http://elliswinningham.net/index.php/2017/09/04/federal-taxpayers-not-fund-federal-government-federal-government-funds-federal-taxpayers/

Well that title is blunt, isn’t it? I like blunt. That’s why I chose it. As I always say, blunt cuts through bullshit. It’s my bet that it is sure to cause irritation for those persons who play immature games of semantics with the word ’fund’. Good.

Look, we all know what people mean when they say, ‘Federal taxes don’t fund federal spending’; they mean, ‘The federal government does not require an income, and so, it does not spend the proceeds from federal tax collections’. Some people simply wish to confuse others by playing a game of semantics over the word ‘fund’.

A couple of days ago, I made it clear that this long running game of semantics over the word ‘fund’ won’t debunk the operational realities of federal spending and taxation as outlined by MMT. Last night, I discussed the issue again in some detail. Once more, I’ll explain it because it seems that some people who are genuinely interested in understanding are having trouble digesting it. We have those who’ve been deliberately playing this petulant, idiotic game of semantics to thank for that. Well done. You’ve confused others and sown doubt in the hopes of thwarting the work of those who describe concepts in simple terms so that the general public could understand them.

Put simply, people who play this game have their own agenda to push. Some of these persons are completely unqualified with only an interest in economics, and they simply want to promote themselves, their blog, their livestream, their own contrived view of the macroeconomy, or perhaps a new, fantastic money-making ‘system’ that they wish to sell.

Anyway.

Back to the point at hand. I’ll explain the main purpose federal taxation once again and hopefully clear up the confusion that these persons have deliberately caused to advance their own interests.

The federal government was instituted by the people of the nation to sit in authority over the nation. Now, when we think of the federal government, we tend to think of the politicians we elect. Forget them. I am not discussing politicians. Politicians come and go – unfortunately, most don’t go fast enough – but the federal government remains.

When we speak of the federal government, we are speaking of the public institution itself, and like any other institution or entity, the federal government requires goods and services to operate as government. Again, national governments sit in authority over the entire nation, and therefore, they must endure. Since we know that the federal government requires paper, pens, computers, chairs, carpet, bullets, aircraft, tanks, buildings, etc., to operate as government, then the question becomes,

“What is the most efficient and certain way that the federal government can acquire all of the goods and services that it needs to act as government now, and in the future, without fear of one day being unable to do so, and without the possibility of an entity that is subject to its authority, or a foreign one, obstructing its ability provision itself, thus usurping its authority?”

There are two ways: The uncivilised approach and the civilised approach.

The uncivilised approach is to take what the federal government needs to operate as government by force. In other words, to waltz into the private sector and force people at gunpoint to hand over their property, and also, to round up citizens, hauling them off against their will to perform work in service to the federal government.

The civilised answer, put simply, is to operate a monetary economy, creating a market of buyers and sellers, and then issue its own currency to buy what it needs. The federal government operates on the civilised approach.

Now then, in the uncivilised method, the mechanism used to guarantee that the federal government can obtain the goods and services necessary to function as government is obvious – brutal force. But, with the civilised method, we are left in a bit of a quandry. As Minsky said, anyone can create a monetary instrument. The trick is getting it accepted. So, how then can the federal government ensure that every citizen and business will accept the federal government’s currency as payment for the goods and services that it needs to function as government?

It will need some kind of mechanism to compel the nation into accepting its own currency because begging won’t do. After all, the federal government is the supreme authority and issuing its own currency to buy what it needs means that 1.) it can operate a nation in a civilised manner, and 2.) it can never run out of its own currency, guaranteeing that it can always obtain what it needs to function as government without any possibility of some entity that is subject to its authority, or even another nation, holding it hostage. The federal government is ready, willing, and able to spend dollars into existence to do this and it has an infinite spending capacity, so, what to do? Some measure of force will be required, obviously. But that force must be conditional to be in keeping with a more civilised approach: “If you don’t do this, then I will be forced to become a tad bit uncivilised.” As the supreme authority, it certainly has the power to confiscate property and to imprison citizens. Man, this is a tough question. What to do? Wait! I’ve got it!

U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 8:

“The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises…”

Eureka! The federal government will impose a tax burden and let everyone know that if they do not pay the tax, then it will be forced to become rather uncivilised by seizing their property, or imprisoning them. And nobody wants that, right? Right. So, when the people ask the federal government:

“Say man, what will you accept as payment for this tax? Because I don’t wish to lose my property or wind up in the penitentiary.”, the federal government tells them:

“Simple. All you people have to do is to sell me your goods and services to get my dollars. And since I am the currency issuer, I get to decide the price that I will pay in dollars for those things that I need, I will spend US dollars into existence to pay for them, and you will have the dollars you need to pay the tax that I am imposing. Whatever is left over after you pay the tax, you can use for whatever you wish. You can then buy and sell with my dollars. Don’t worry: everyone else will accept dollars as payment because they need the dollars to pay my tax. Look, don’t freak out, ok? All that I really want to do here is to create a market of buyers and sellers of goods and services which operates on my currency called the US dollar. Imposing a federal tax is the civilised way to achieve this.”

So, some people begin selling their goods to the federal government to obtain the dollars necessary to lift the tax burden. The government then decides how much it is willing to pay for those goods in its own currency, and then spends the dollars into existence to buy them. Some people sell their labour to the federal government, the federal government decides the wage it is willing to pay these workers in its own currency, and then spends the dollars into existence to pay the wages of these workers. Now people have possession of dollars and they use some of them to pay the tax. They either save or spend the what they have left over. Businesses hire workers, and so, they pay wages in dollars and then private sector workers can also pay the tax in case the federal government places a tax burden on them too. Before you know it, an entire market and nation is operating based upon the federal government’s US dollar. The US dollar becomes the most widely-accepted monetary instrument in the United States and the federal government has a guaranteed method to supply itself with the goods and services that it needs to operate as government, now and in the future, without fear of ever financially being unable to do so. In other words:

The federal government can buy anything that is for sale priced in US dollars without fear of going broke. And all of this is possible because the federal government imposes a burden called ‘federal taxation’ on the nation which carries a severe, certain punishment if you fail to comply, and so, a wide-spread desire to avoid the punishment drives the demand for the federal government’s own currency: The US dollar. Hence, as MMT says, the US dollar is a tax credit.

Another way of looking at it which might help some of you to understand, is to view the US dollar as you would a movie ticket. A cinema produces movie tickets, and factually, it can produce an infinite number of tickets if it chooses to regardless of the number of seats available. Now, from your perspective the cinema produces tickets so that you can watch a film. And it does. But it also produces tickets so that it can accept them back. That might sound bizarre, but as bizarre as it sounds, it is still true.

The cinema issues a ticket and promises you that it will accept the ticket back if you have one, thus allowing you to watch the film. If you have no ticket, you don’t get to watch the show. When you hand the ticket to the cinema, the cinema destroys the ticket. Don’t deny it, you’ve seen them do it. They just throw your ticket away. The ticket isn’t the point; the movie is. Federal taxation and the US dollar function the same way. The federal government first issues US dollars, spending them into existence to buy stuff, and then promises all persons who become a target of federal taxation that it will accept the dollars back, allowing them to avoid the confiscation of their property or imprisonment. The federal government then destroys the dollars collected, because the point isn’t the dollars themselves. The point from your view is to avoid punishment, and from the federal government’s view, the point is to cause you to use dollars. Those who do not have any dollars when the federal tax man cometh are sort of screwed.

Anyone who has experienced the unrelenting pressure of the IRS coming down on them and what the IRS can eventually do to them, should be able to understand this simple premise. The only way to get the IRS off of your back is to obtain the dollars necessary to pay the tax. The IRS simply will not give up. US dollars are the only way to make the IRS leave you alone. This is the reason why everyone in the US demands US dollars and it is why you use them to buy everything that you need and want. Even if you personally have no federal tax to pay, somebody else does and they need the dollars you have because they really do not wish to deal with the IRS. Therefore, they will accept the dollars you have for food, clothes, cars, TV, toothpaste and anything else that you can think of.

So, to sum up, federal taxation is the clever mechanism that allows the government to cause everyone to accept the federal government’s own currency so that it can spend that currency into existence to buy stuff that it needs. The order of operations is very simple:

1.) The federal government places a burden on people by declaring that these people must pay federal tax. In other words, the federal government targets some people and businesses for harassment simply because it has the constitutional authority to do so. At this point, no federal taxes are yet paid. There exists only a demand from the federal government for compliance.

2.) These people and businesses who are targeted for harassment by the federal government have no way to avoid the harassment other than to give the federal government what it demands (US dollars) to make the harassment stop.

3.) Federal spending now begins and it does so prior to the federal government receiving tax payments from citizens. The federal government spends dollars into existence to buy goods and services that it needs to function as government. The people and businesses who are targeted for harassment can now give some of those dollars back to the federal government because the federal government promises to accept them back in exchange for letting these people and businesses off the hook.

4.) The people and businesses return some US dollars to the federal government to settle the federal tax burden, and, as promised, the federal government lets them off the hook. The federal government destroys the dollars collected. The dollars left over in the economy are then saved or spent on goods and services.

5.) The process repeats itself each and every fiscal year.

The main purpose, then, of federal taxation is all about creating and maintaining a demand for US dollars, and as long as the federal government can enforce tax collections, people in the US will demand US dollars.

What you hopefully understand now is that federal spending comes before federal tax collections. True, the federal government’s act of declaring that some people and businesses owe tax might come first, but federal spending must come before the federal government can collect because people need the dollars to pay the tax. Declaring a federal tax is not the same thing as collecting from those who owe it. Owing federal tax and paying federal tax are two separate things. First you must owe federal taxes, then afterwards, you must pay what you owe. The owing of federal tax is the burden; paying the federal tax is the lifting of the burden. So, please be aware that when it comes to federal taxes, people who play these childish games of semantics concerning the word ‘fund’ deliberately do so for their own interests, not yours and certainly not for the interests of the nation. They want you to believe that MMT is wrong, or that they are the ‘real MMTers’ and that MMT has been corrupted by fake ‘MMTers’, that there are real operational constraints to federal spending, and that federal taxes do fund federal spending. Total nonsense, the lot of it, because as we can clearly understand now:

Federal taxpayers do not fund the federal government; the federal government funds federal taxpayers.
This entry was posted in Federal Spending, MMT, US Economy.

In the game of life Every hand is a winning hand but :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=76&v=kn481KcjvMo

A brief reflection on British counter-insurgency campaigns since the end of the Second World War is 4 September posted at http://adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/2017/09/a-brief-reflection-on-british-counter.html

Fella is a QC and much more…

Good morning, morning minions, I got up at 3:33. The full moon was at 45 degrees to the southwest, the air was still at a cool 65 as I walked the circle of sacred art. The moon shone directly into the sacred shrine, and illuminated the peaceful sign. I walked past the circle of lovers and lay down on the sacrificial altar.

Awesome postings from vineyard lovers: Maria from the Russian foreign service, facing the empire face to face without blinking, with a little help from teranam 13; the saker, falcon, condor to the tune of Placido, assisted by Bro; and ioan assisting everyone; etc., etc.

The Love Army is on the march, and the vineyard is on the move. We’ve learned when to hold and when to fold, when to be told and when to be bold. The difficult we do soon, and the impossible somewhat later under the aegis of the moon.

I had an awesome Labor Day yesterday. I spent the day with my son and a large part of the day with my soul mate of love and hate. It was a “conjunctio hierogamos sexualis” in Jungian lingo, and Venus with Sagittarius in mundanomaniac astrolionis, if I may be so bold.

Francis and I, in his Tundra Toyota Truck, went from 750 feet above sea level Ojai to 5160 in less than an hour, on the Rocky Mountain Grand Canyon Pacific Ocean highway trail. We could have gone to 8000 feet by a side road, and gotten a view only sakers and condors enjoy. From ocean to the highland mountains of emotion in an hour is made easy by millions of years of canyon carving from the watershed mountains to Ojai’s Vulva Valley, where I live.

On the other side of that great divide is the Carrizo Plain National Monument, a huge African savannah like high plateau that reminded me of my origins. Francis and I delivered a truck load of plants and small trees to Apolonia, the earth mother and lover herself.

We’ve been married for eighteen years officially and naturally going on thirty years. Francis is our twenty-four year old son, deep sea diver and now engineering student. Apolonia has more life in her little finger, and Francis more light in his left cerebrum than I have in my whole body soul.

With an IQ of 112, I’ve had to act my way into the higher levels of families and vineyards. I actually played Romeo at Apolonia’s window balcony and now play the fool at Saker’s court. Yesterday, I played visitor to yet another Garden of Paradise in the desert, which Apolonia is creating on two and half acres in the wilderness plains of California.

She bought it for $17,000. The pot growers have moved in and offered her $80,000. Apple-onia is no Eve to my Adam and did not bite on that apple. The pot heads are now moving north to Napa Valley where the winos make more mullah on beads than grapes.

Saker created a garden vineyard in virtual Florida; Apolonia is making a physical garden eden in Carrizo California, and the Ojai Indian Maiden is using me for a Vineyard West. I’m just along for the ride, but it looks like the world is in danger of giving up the American Dream where “they paved paradise and put up a parking lot, with a pink hotel, a boutique and a swinging hot spot.”

This vineyard, with all of you lovers, is a canary in the grape vine, singing her song about a world gone wrong, and the new world that is “slouching toward Bethlehem to be born.” There’s still tons of karma to burn, but it doesn’t take a weatherman to see which way the wind is blowing.

The empire is crumbling while Russia matryoshka dolls are breaking out of boxes within boxes, faster than China can put out obor Barbie and Ken dolls. A vacuum in the spirit is being formed that makes black holes look like white. Like it or not, the Saker is in the eye of perfect storm clouds gathering for a shoot out at the OK Corral of apocalyptic dreams.

“I feel a change comin’ on
Well I’m looking the world over
Looking far off into the east
And I see my baby comin’
She’s walking with the village priest

Well, life is for love
And they say love is blind
If you wanna live easy
Baby, pack your clothes with mine”

The Christian orthodox family is based on three persons in one God. Nature’s orthodox family is mother, father and child. Dennis played that part on Labor Day with Apolonia and Francis. Within this cafe circumference, there are many fathers, mothers and adult children. Good and bad come in threes. I rise at 3:33. Some use 3’s in their nom de plames.

Jesus rose on the 3rd day. Cafes usually arise on the third day. The moon dies, is buried and rises on the third day. A community of three, four and more seems to be the basis of reality. In Genesis, God says “let us make man in our image.” Stripping away patriarchal accretions, there are these three: faith, hope and charity, in one love.

At 6 am, Francis is driving off in his truck to Santa Barbara. The light is dawning. The duality of day and night is mediated by that ever present third element, the twilight zone. What’s my point? I don’t know–that’s my point. Knowledge is a power point but love is the point of points.

War hovers in the background of this peaceful vineyard as its raison d’etre. Raw reversed is War. Raw truth is naked, the only real antidote to war. We can’t know truth; we can only love it. Says who? I don’t know. Maybe you do. I just don’t know what to do. I think I’ll go back to bed and think of you.

“Something is going on and you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?” I live on the borderland of inanity and insanity. If you value your life, don’t listen to me. I listen to you, so you’re just listening to yourself. If that makes sense, explain it to me. The only thing that makes any sense to me is love, and I don’t know what that is. It’s depressing to be so stupid, and all.

It just turned 6:33. It could have been 6:66, if the clocks allowed. If I had any talent, I’d be named Dennis Dostoevsky. I play Solari to Mozart. It’s overcast and my dark side is showing. I don’t mind–somewhere the light is glowing.

I forgot what I came here to say. Or rather, I’m afraid to say it–it’s too raw, too anti-war; besides, it can’t be put into words, but even that’s a lie. Bro is right about fears. Sis is true about tears. I play Sgt. Schultz in self-defense: “I know nothing; I see nothing–in other words, I’m afraid of everything.”

These foggy dew mornings remind me of Wisconsin; they make me melancholy and put me in the mood for a long lost home. In that respect, the vineyard acts as a half-way house from addiction to benediction. The banality of war serves as the gateway to a sweetness of body and soul that wells up from within, when I sense the nearness of home.

Parting is such sweet sorrow. But with you there’s always a tomorrow. Just for the fun of it, I’m going to end and post this at 7:06 am [pacific time], which would be 6:66 in another time reckoning. All I feel is love, and its absence; that’s the raw war of it. Until we meet again in this cafeland,

Love, Dennis, Ojai, 7:06 and 2:06 utc

This is the day, where I read the most mature statement of all my life

and this is how “the stars” were constellated when it commenced:

“Blue Moon for mankind – a Historicel Press Conference”

http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2017/09/a-historical-press-conference.html