2017/10/04 02:30:01
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Art Deco … Love Art Deco and the Music of the time …
Here is the Art and the Music …
ART DECO – Visual Learning Period Design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vndL5tTTReE
ART DECO II VISUAL LEARNING PART 2 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jaq62XlDOI
My Chinese wife has brought this comedy to my attention, and if she finds this funny, well it must be and Bro 93 knows what I mean … but then people do change, … so exciting !
Here is stand up comedy “on the edge” … clever comedy by Daliso Chaponda.
Britain’s Got Talent 2017 Live Semi-Finals Daliso Chaponda Full S11E16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMFPowCIIA
Great short routine! Thanks, Pavel!
For those in a big rush, don’t miss the Funny Guy from Malawi:
https://youtu.be/vJMFPowCIIA?t=187 ….the peak moment, IMHO
One of the most striking things I ever heard from the Apostles (there must be something yeast-like to Jesus…..) is the descriptive concept of “the quickening of the Spirit” that he imparted to them.
This is evident in the Malawian Daliso Chaponda. It is evident in quickness of mind, as well as spirit…..it is evident in quickness of wit……it is the lightning flash of TRUTH:
“It’s a wonderful time to be alive!……Two hundred years ago, THIS would have been an auction!”
Spaciba, Pavel!!
Bro 93 … 11 minutes into this video … it’s safe to watch more … Daliso Chaponda …
Golden Buzzers 2017 All Best Auditions | Britain’s Got Talent 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQgJZHJqbA
Dennis calls Art Deco “ugly” so he seeks abuse or just wants an argument.
Here’s an argument.
Well some Art Deco is “ugly”, but then Art Deco is for Creative People to consider various elements in design ; ))
Argument Clinic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNkjDuSVXiE
Brought tears of laughter to my eyes.
But help the people Pavel…where you want to start right click on the screen and choose “Copy URL at the current time” ….the link will appear with the seconds elapsed from the start tacked on to the end of the link. If they want to go back and watch it all they can……but some people are more tired than I am right now!
Thanks, Mate!
Here is the timed link with thanks to Bro 93 …
Daliso Chaponda, the short and sharp comedian …
Hope this works …
https://youtu.be/oeQgJZHJqbA?t=660
“Poroshenko extends Donbass special status law, seeks for UN peace enforcement operation”
https://dninews.com/article/poroshenko-extends-donbass-special-status-law-seeks-un-peace-enforcement-operation
may depend if it passed by the RADA or not?
BUT
another interpretation is
“The bill on the reintegration of Donbass, submitted by Petro Poroshenko to the Verkhovna Rada, allows the introduction of martial law and the president’s right to use armed forces in certain territories of Ukraine.
“If martial law is imposed in certain localities in connection with Russian armed aggression in the Donetsk and Lugansk Regions: the powers of the regional council, its executive apparatus, officials and officials of local self-government who work in these regions cease in accordance with this law. bodies – in case of the formation of the relevant regional military administration, “reads the document.”
this is from a google translate, article by Grigory May……..so I am not sure at all what is going on, although there are still threats to remove Poro, maybe even deliberate sabotage of this bill? Does another year mean theukraine will still keep on attacking-major attacks yesterday on many villages.
extract
‘Over the past 24 hours, 48 violations of the ceasefire regime by the Ukrainian Armed Forces were recorded.
In the Donetsk direction, the enemy applied artillery, mortars, weapons of infantry fighting vehicles, various types of grenade launchers and small arms. 21 mortar shells of 120-mm and 75 of 82-mm calibre were launched onto nine localities’ adjacent areas: Krutaya Balka, Yasinovataya, Vasiliyevka, Mineralnoye, Yakovlevka, Spartak, Dokuchayevsk, the Petrovsky and Kirovsky districts of Donetsk……” still a big build up by AFU
https://dninews.com/article/donetsk-defence-situation-report-10042017
note the other day the head medical guy of the Ukraine military resigned as too many returnees, injured soldiers, consriptees etc from action are suffering from PTSD etc, no budget to help them etc, virtually untreatable……………maybe because of the psychotropic drugs often in use? Also note NTO is pleased with progress of ukraine forces with matching up to their compatability standards, as they had been involved in ‘combat action”………presumably against the Donbass civilians? Maybe coming up to those standards also means a high rate of untreatable personnel in NATO too…………….
but
“The DPR public commission for recording Kiev’s war crimes in Donbass passed the materials on 34 cases covering nine people killed to the International Criminal Court this September, said the committee’s member Elena Shishkina.
“In September, the Public Commission passed to ICC prosecutors a body of evidence on 34 episodes of Ukrainian troops’ crimes against DPR population by which 54 people were affected; nine of them lost their lives, 41 sustained injuries of various degree, four minors were injured,” according to Shishkina.
The Commission has passed to ICC the information on 387 Donbass conflict victims since it began operation.”
http://nrt24.ru/en/news/international-criminal-court-icc-has-received-documented-files-ukraine-junta-war-crimes
latest
“Ukraine’s parliament has adopted, in the first reading of the bill, the reintegration of the Donbass region in the southeast of Ukraine and extended its special status for one year.
KIEV (Sputnik) — According to a statement on the parliament’s website, the bill, backed by 233 lawmakers, was approved with the amendments eschewing the Minsk agreements. The initial version suggested that these agreements should serve as the main guideline for the policy on Donbass, but now the bill proposes to focus on the UNSC Resolution on the region.”
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201710061057998413-donbass-reintegration-ukraine-parliament/
MOSCOW, October 6. /TASS/. The Ukrainian bill on the reintegration of the Donbass region runs counter to the Minsk agreements, and the fact that Russia is called an aggressor country in it is unacceptable, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Friday.
“As far as we understand, according to the information we have on the bill at the moment, it is rather declarative. It contains a paragraph, in which Russia is called an aggressor. Also, there is no mention whatsoever of the Minsk agreements there. From the purely legal point of view, this wording cannot be acceptable for us either de jure or de facto,” the Kremlin spokesman stressed.
More:
http://tass.com/politics/969364
Thanks for the info JJ. Looks that Kiev doesn’t want to let the conflict just cool down, nor they want to wake up to the realities.
very important announcement by Russian Ministry of Defense today. More betrayals of information to Daesh have taken place . This is the only and final warning—looks as if!
https://southfront.org/russian-forces-ready-to-prevent-isis-attacks-from-us-controlled-areas-in-syria-defense-ministry/
to our collective knowledge ‘God’ made the lights of our – Sun-family and our brain and heart, and they
might be watching them cause it is venturus and favorable to do the journey with the whole bunch
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2017/10/mars-venus-stimulus-on-tissue-and-5.html
Arma virumque cano. Of arms and a man I sing. Virgil on Aeneas. A high song of patriarchy and the glory of war.
Amor virique cano. Of love and men I sing. Dennis on the Vineyard. A high song of loverarchy and the glory of love.
At this moment in time, Paul (is the first name Pavel?), leads off the new cafe with Art Deco (ugly), and Britain’s Talent Deliso (beautiful), other than the added laugh track.
Paul also ended the old cafe with the hands of Kate Bush and the torso of Eve in her sexy snake garden dress, with a bevy of beautiful women, sung by Dennis Roussos.
The name Dennis caught my attention, narcissist as I am, from Dionysus of the Vineyard Bower. “Let my beloved enter my garden and eat the fruits that are his own.” (Song of Songs)
This vineyard has a way of capturing the zeitgeist in real time: in other words, love and anti-love; or Lady Love and, in Paul’s words: the “path of any noteworthy ‘khazar’ “–in my lexicon, Lord Leary and Count Khazar.
If this doesn’t make sense, don’t worry about it. Chalk it up to mundanomaniac’s Unconscious Dennis and Conscious Bro. In evidence thereof, I present the vineyard court the following items:
1. mundanomaniac’s “teacher of pure heart,” one Mao Tse Tung.
2. Dennis’ “China, Mao, Rothschild, Revolution” by Google. (2 contra 1).
3. Russia’s train stations by Paul. [Many years hence Apolonia visited Russia and spoke of them to me, with reverential awe].
4. Bro 93’s Catholic Cult at the Cathedral of John the Divine; with Banning and LaRouche, banned from Birmingham to Beijing.
5. Scott Humor’s article, which eats the cake and has it too; with Jack Ma, China’s richest billionaire, and idol of globalism, complemented by the empire’s globalism on the march against Russia.
6. The cat fight in Catalonia, which Saker himself moderated, predicting the flood of comments that followed.
Only a vineyard could bring this mess to the table so it can redress it. In my opening remarks to the court of vineyard opinion, I argue that Catalonia is headed in the right direction, but by dint of the maxim “100% is a breeze but 99% is a bitch,” it’s headed for a ditch.
In Orlov words, we were designed to live in small communities of no more than 150 persons; so we could all know one another intimately, sacredly and sexually, with all communities inter-marrying.
Patriarchy threw a wrench into this fine tuned order, and so we garner what we deserve in the deserts of war, disease, famine and miserable death. We refuse to learn and so we burn.
All covered up by the glory of war, memorialized by “Arma virumque cano…” Far be it from me to preach, but I can sing “Amor virique cano.” If only I could find real men to fight for real love, this cafe would make my day.
In lieu thereof, I submit to the court Pandora’s box of all gifts, and Patriarchy’s box of all ills, in the following story from this week’s love calendar at the Love Government, under the title of Purple Flower and Purple Tower:
“Out of the blue, Joy appeared like a purple horizon. “Your will is my command. I’m your Genie in a bottle. I love to be rubbed the right way. Service is my joy. I’ve got the cure for the patriarchal blues. Watch this.”
Hermione Joy pointed her wand and a mighty tower erected itself, rolling power towers into one, from London Tower to Eiffel Tower. “Behold Sir Phallus, from Mt. Olympus to Mt. Sinai, from Babel to Aztec Hill, lords of earth with erector sets to heaven, jacks on beanstalks and kings of hills.”
Joy was having fun, pushing sex pets to the outer limit and off the edge. “Your skyscrapers and cloud piercers take the top gun prize. It doesn’t take a locker room to show who has the biggest trophy. The 911 twin towers broke the one tower barrier, and made it two bats for two balls.”
Joy was more than a 911 truther. She was a patriarchy roto-rooter. No even 911 truthers could wrap their heads around patri-trickery. Joy blew my patriarchal blues away with her whistle-blowing victory parade.
“Here’s a truth not even 911 truthers will touch: 911 is patriarchy in minature, a symbol of Evil’s macroture. That’s a hot potato too hot to handle and keep your job and down pat lifestyle. I’ll demon-state how love speaks truth to power.”
Joy became Jove, striking the pat tower with lightning and thunderbolts, a trillion volts, sucking patri-rubble down a rabid hole. On the compost smiled a purple bower flower.
“Behold the power behind the thrones of towers: the purple vulva flower of womamhood. When the hard reign of power is over and gone, gentle genital flowers remain. The Beloved will come like a thief in the night, and steal your heart away. A man will discover who he is, and, oh, what a lucky man is he.”
For me, Joy turned out to be a purple passage to an inner sanctum of joy.
———————
The sun is up in her cups. Time for me to eat and walk up and down Love Army Road. Apolonia comes here to Vulva Valley today, after dining with Francis in Santa Barbara. She’s Apollo to my Dionysus, Apolonia to Dennis, Ophelia to Hamlet, Eurydice to Orpheus, Radha to Krishna, Clare to Francis and Mary the Magna-line to She’sus the Christ.
She comes for her plants and baby trees, as any earth mother does, to take them to her Eve’s Garden, north to the Carrizo Plain at California Valley. I’ve been watering them for her, as any caretaker would.
Mary Magdalene to the unrecognized resurrected Jesus in the garden: “Sir, can you show me where they are laid him?” Jesus turned and said: “Mary.” She fell into his arms, sobbing.
Now there’s a man for a woman. That’s the man I sing of in “Amor virumque cano.” That’s the men I sing of in “Amor virique cano”–the women and men of this Cafe Vineyard.
Love, Dennis, Ojai, California, on 10/4, the feast of Saint Francis of Assisi, posted at 9:33 am
I studied the Aeneid in private school.
“Rosy-fingered dawn” and “wine-dark sea” were each repeated many scores of times. These feminine images were the most lasting impression on me. The exigencies and urgencies of ugly conflict and murderous war may have been in the foreground…….but in the background was Beauty…..Spirit.
A bit of Latin was learned, also…useful in Philology and Etymology later on.
But of course, this was a Roman version of the Iliad of the Greek Homer.
And the original message was not the glories of war, sir. Quite the opposite!
What I have reflected on a lot lately is the reality of both the inventiveness of Imagination (Spirit) and the hard facts (Body, Matter) of the Physical Sciences.
It was thought that the Iliad was a masterpiece of pure imagination and Troy a mythical place. But hard physical reality and myth combine and enrich each other………….A Tale of Love …and WAR…..or is it all myth made up by Heinrich Schliemann’s own inspiration and imagination??
What a German!! From California to Crimea from Germany to St Petersburg:
https://youtu.be/K0jkFPDx8k0 Heinrich Schliemann and the discovery of Troy – 1/3
And, apart from Alexander’s project to smash Empire (some say to make his own……) Greeks never made an Empire but instead established as their largest Body Politics the Polis or City. Which was larger than 150 persons….and eventually succumbed to Empire….as did the Acro-Polis which Britsh Empire Thief Lord Elgin looted and removed to the British Museum.
On Seeing the Elgin Marbles John Keats, 1795 – 1821
My spirit is too weak—mortality
Weighs heavily on me like unwilling sleep,
And each imagined pinnacle and steep
Of godlike hardship tells me I must die
Like a sick eagle looking at the sky.
Yet ‘tis a gentle luxury to weep,
That I have not the cloudy winds to keep,
Fresh for the opening of the morning’s eye.
Such dim-conceived glories of the brain
Bring round the heart an indescribable feud;
So do these wonders a most dizzy pain,
That mingles Grecian grandeur with the rude
Wasting of old Time—with a billowy main—
A sun—a shadow of a magnitude.
The Oddessy of Human Development as a species.
Is OBOR the Chinese/Zionist Trojan Horse to be burned by Anglo-Zionist and neocon takfiris with our fearful blessings??
Has our discernment improved in 3,000 years or are we, like the Greeks were once described by a sage from a more ancient line, “like children”???
See the bird??
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/Molla0014.JPG
Let me help you then.
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/Molla0013crop.JPG
Take Care
Kent
Work of Art made by Mother Nature, The Bird with her Child…
The Flight of Time
I saw another water bird.
Higher up and to the left.
It is rock dusted with ice
And the water it floats on
Is solid stone. Solid lake,
Once a flowing lava river.
One bird…no three! Is that
Not a hatched one feeding
From it parent’s beak?
These birds will melt away
In Time. Iciness before
Our eyes if we linger there.
The stone one on a slant
Is also slowly headed back
To a liquid state, eroded
By ice and wind and roots.
Other birds will take shape,
In nests in clouds in dreams
In ice and fire and solid rock
In our mind’s eye and yes,
In feathery fancy, on the fly,
Rising from earth unto the sky.
My Dog’s point of View
Today, I bought a toy for my dog
a silly one, but funny
Imagine, a smiling, barking frog
a green one, as many
By pressuring it, begins the show
a good one, for dogs
Barking at high then barking at low
a good one, for frogs
Is he my pet and I’m his dad ?
No, it is much more than that
We, the cats, are playing together
We, the dogs, we’re loving forever
One, who has, can understand
Why this love shall never end
That’s why I’m barking very oft
Sometimes hard, sometimes soft,
Sometimes sniffing in the air
If there’s something to share
With another dog or cat
Gladly, taking down my hat
Sitting down, having a talk
Or just simply, take a walk.
There is barking, there is wauling
There is friendship, there is calling
No one asks what should be not
No one keeps the anger hot
Funny play with rubber frogs
For the cats and for the dogs.
That’s my point, to share with few,
From My Dog’s point of view.
I’m a little…..But I’m a Great Winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBEyCr5AoIs
Brothers of the Wind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgdc7OlMUBI
Let’s go home kids!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL3Aw2m6PJw
Good (IMO) analysis of the role Central Banks will play on Spain’s response if/when Catalunya proceeds with declaring independence.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/10/catalonia-puigdemont-promises-secession-days-king-censures-officials-acting-outside-law.html
“Reflections Of” Cafe is off to a meditative start.
But birds of a feather can catch up fast, together.
Rest and repose have a place in stormy weather,
But now it’s clear! Earth and sky call…. which part?
In response to what I heard on the radio picking up my son from school, which took wing in the nether regions of my memories, heard somewhere before…..where?…..when?….., and for the cute canine companion with the Child’s Face of Love……. his name is unknown to me but his face is on every ioanian email……., and in prayers for his Mom, (whether Roumanian or not…how would I guess right….??……except that he and presumably she spent many years there…………..in Roumania……….and might still be there for all I know….) and to atone for my use of Transylvanian not-quite as -positive imagery in the Monster at the UN Speech thread….) IT IS:
Roumanian Rhapsody # 1 Georges Enesco
https://youtu.be/dKI_TxqivLg
and that is one beautiful land! The video is really good, in other words!……….(imho)
Thanks for that music. If we are still at Romanian music, check out Eugen Doga. He is a Moldovan musician still in life. He also composed music for Soviet films in that time.
You are busy, so I will help others do as you suggest:
https://youtu.be/rB_o2K54Qxc Excellent waltz and video!
https://youtu.be/pawim692vZc Same waltz, but the video
here is good for Valentines Day email
https://youtu.be/RSqXRdSjtDU for your love, ANY day…..
https://youtu.be/zZ4uwXRJHg0 The composer Doga played
by Pianist Doga
Here the maestro Doga in one of his vocal works with
Roumanian Soprano Mariana Bulicanu…Eugene plays
a keyboard/woodwind?? instrument I have never seen
before.
https://youtu.be/NfET1JuTmwg “The Boat”
……the Vessel of Love that brought you into this world
…and She will carry you Home as your sun sets……and
your earthly voyage ends.
Dream and confession.
It’s just that I do suspect that their dreams are not like this, ever.
Substitute “Flash” with anyone of your own choosing.
But. You never know, do you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_F3KcKs-bM
Take Care
Kent
Well, a little different confession I would argue.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9xVmCL0bA
Kent
While climate scientists have little to say that people want to hear these days, the following article presents a fluid essence of our future environment.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/biological-annihilation-on-earth-accelerating-population-extinctions-entire-animal-species-destroyed/5601074
The reason behind Las Vegas shooting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWIHv7a6luY
X-ray scanners are needed everywhere, and they cost a lot of money.
Main reason is
#1 – to set the narrative(which has been this week and is continuing) of outlaw firearms in the US to eliminate the 2nd Amendment. This allows martial law and physical domination of the US population as has happened elsewhere in history so the 1st and 4th Amendments can be eliminated fully.
#2 – yes the xray machines as you mention, which enriches certain elite, and helps with increasing cancer in the US, which is another of the multi-billion $$ industries that the elite do not want stopped.
time to go off-grid with the animals we have as they provide more reward and interaction, wholesomeness than the American human.
Sorry, if I could back up one second further.
I don’t believe that Paddock, the person the US media and the Sheriff indicate did this, actually did it.
I think an alphabet soup organization either from the US or foreign secured paddock.
Through weeks of planning and coordination, they then worked with a like organization from another country to fly in the shooter to commit the act and shoot paddock in his room
The US agency then extracted the shooter immediately on site and returned him or shot him
The Sheriff then finds paddock in the room dead and puts 2 and 2 together and here we are
If you’re asking, “who would do this, even certain radicals wouldn’t do this”. Well, remember on Saker’s site here, the story of the eyesis fighters and the drugs they’re on and the Saudi prince caught with some ungodly number of the pills? If not you should read that. AND it ties to another detail from the Las vegas event. eyesis claimed responsibility for the shooting and many of us in the US said, “ohhh no!! what? that’s crazy!”
Well, the more we see what they DONT have on paddock and the more we connect things and listen, the more I think this story is right on.
Sad time in the world indeed.
I am of the opinion, that if mass shootings didn’t exist, they would have to be invented, at least as America in its current form is concerned. In this post-truth world, trauma jolts people away from their live-a-day lives, not to mention their content-streaming devices, tapping into a sacrificial substratum, carving out a symbolic space for ‘America’ along with the simulacrum of community.
Read Jim Stone, for Chrissake, he has all the details, extracted from the material there is, as always, and he is honest. Try him at
82.221.129.208.
Anon Ymaus.
Alternate view of Jim Stone, including from his ex:
http://thethrowaways.freeforums.net/thread/129/faq-wip-stone-fraud-exposed
Thank you, interesting – as any new info is somehow „interesting”.
However, this is mostly a „typical american“ „info“ – not info about facts, but (mostly) a collection of texts/remarks/suspicions about this or that, preferably about someone‘s reputation – which, in ALL cases of real refuseniks gets destroyed first, on purpose, as in „character murder“, and not by lovely, disappointed people, but by professional government cutthroats – so HAS to happen just in case he is genuine. They collected:
– there is an arrest warrant for him in Wisconsin …
– it is probably a paranoid fantasy or marketing ploy…
– „Is Jim a disinfo agent?“ – He could be, or he might be mentally ill, or he might be being mind controlled…
– „Is Jim Jewish?” His last name is one used by Fin[n]ish Jews. He claims to have been admitted to a synagogue, though isn’t Jewish himself. [NO, BS: he explained more than once that he is („partly“?) Jewish, did have his moment of awakening and started visiting the synagogue und engaging in the community, but became underwhelmed and dropped out again soon.]
– „Are Jim’s claims accurate?” Some of them appear to be very dubious. In either case, he is a liability to the truth movement due to his shady past and dishonesty.
Then, there is a long article restored from a google archive where again his articles are not judged by their content and its relation to „known facts“/told lies, but against how he did xxx while he should have done yyy: „… then it is very suspicious that such a person would …“
My net impression is that as in only a few other cases „the proof is in the cake“:
Look at how much light a Kalashnikov produces when fired in the night (since Jim published it, no great photo art, but enlightening), regurgitate that thousands of such shots were allegedly shot from the dark hotel front into the crowd, and *not one* of such light bursts was observed… and you get the idea why I think he is worth reading. An effect similar to the one which many articles of TheSaker have on their readers, by the way.
Anon Ymaus.
If it was a false flag event to promote increased surveillance, x-ray machines etc., it would be reasonable to assume that there will be another one or two similar events to stampede the herd into acceptance.
The top ten extinct animals of the last 100 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eStXV_TYFFw
Another aspect of the cynical use of immigrants for ethno-chauvinism in Catalonia:
Muslims have the highest rate of immigration in all of Spain to Catalonia which is encouraged by the independentista power elite—they are promised citizenship if Catalonia becomes a separate nation.
This is the kind of power politics that the Democrats play in California when they pass out voter registration to the illegals when they ( and anyone else for that matter) get a driver’s license.
Do I have “proof” or a internet reference to this…no. Just the popular belief of other citizens of Spain who know the game.
The end game is a rather messy state of affairs called martial law with subsequent polarization of the population and very much sulking…lots of wah-wah–hopefully few deaths. The Spanish people in power are right wing and rather harsh in their approach. They are not stupid — they did watch Maidan–and it just is not going to be allowed to happen in Spain because they have the means of state repressive power and the will to use them.
This photography is even better. California is too sunny too much of the day and most of the year. Of course subtler light conditions exist, softer colors and forms….but it is usually a bit too uniformly and harshly sunny ..with not enough water vapor……..a far cry from these magical Roumanian mists which I find far, far more romantic:
https://youtu.be/DdgRjFSR_oM Same Rhapsody
I could remain in A Roumanian Reverie for a day ot two with all the links to EnescU (previous error corrected…..U not o….. ) compositions (discovery!!!) but I want to use this milder light to explain my reconsideration of my harsh….no….I confess brutal mistreatment of Anonymouse.
Softer contrasts seem to be in the stars…….Mundo?? Why? How? Break it down for us please, bring it down to earth!
Being the eternal optimist of Leibnizian persuasion (“This is THE BEST of all possible worlds.”, he said…..or wrote………..) I think it is entirely possible that Anonymouse and I might bury the hatchet and join forces in stopping the Empire’s War on Russia. Entirely possible that he drops out of the pole position of Lepretardom (envision a race in which the cars run in reverse gear….)..like this year……………….and some years later (10 or 20…he has good reasons to be slower to give his grudges the old heave ho, ya know) I travel to Ireland without fear of being blown up.
What was the significant change? In his parting post (declaring his future policy of ignoring everything I write) he actually supported Russia!! Or was it Russian Communism? In putting the first human being, Yuri Gagarin into space. And with that link, he disappeared back under his bridge.
Hey, unlike Orlov I don’t think the rest of the Universe is 1,000,000% out of the question for human beings to visit or inhabit…..some centuries hence. So, you take that small point of agreement, end hostilities!
Oh I forgot…..John McAfee who is starting a crypto with RDS (and Cynthia McKinney???) says ditch your “smart phone”…it’s really stupid to carry a device around with you 24/7 that is spying on you.
I already ditched the I-phone well over a year ago. TWO points of agreement! (Russian Space Program is Good #1……Apple is Rotten…#2).
Now, with this milder mood of Brotherly Love I contemplate the honest questions and candid observations of “Sonny” who is not mean like Liston was, but does live in Sunny California where the contrasts are too harsh, too much of the time, for my preferred type of art photography.
I am going back to that Cafe of 134 comments that apparently shot our collective wad and try to help with what I called the “connecto” errors of strategic judgment I believe Dennis or someone close to his perspectives, could find intelligible.
My batteries are too low this time of night. There’s a video reportback from China, by a young man that I know, which report I need to watch to the end:
https://youtu.be/jYkOGRiDvX4
What China Can Teach the US: How to Revive the Mission of America
since I am pretty sure it bears, in an immediate, eyewitness way, from a person I have spent some time (1-2 hours)conversing with, in Alameda (San Francsico Bay Area) how East is East and West is West and evermore the twain might not meet on the geopolitical field of global war.
Just back from China….no, not sight-seeing. A conference he was invited to. Probably through prior events getting to know the Chinese Consul in San Francisco. With a little help from the Silk Road Lady, as well.
Now, the Empire has meddled in China AND the Soviet Union (the most pernicious inflitration there may have been through arch-imperialist Lord Bertrand Russell’s IIASA….International Institute of Applied Systems Analysis) and are STILL deployed in both Russia and China, but are things that simple, that we should give up in despair?
I think not. I think reality is richer, more complex than connecto name games, and that Castro and Stalin (and Mao! his task was not simple!!! he DID have to deal with western and eastern devils…….so will we ALL if we roll our sleeves up and get into the work of more than theorizing) even are.
But I want to be kinder to Dennis. I don’t think he’s a witting agent of Empire. Some poor billionaires are just trapped there. They fear for their lives if they say “Boo!”
YET If anyone’s ego runs away with their reason, they could certainly become an unwitting agent of empire, quite easily, quite routinely. No doubt about that. It happens every day. In a small way here, and in a small way there.
HOW, some outraged sufferors for humanity might angrily ask, could Gottfiredd Wilhelm Leibniz (a beautifully effective east west bridge builder in his own time) ever state such an apparently daft proclamation as “This is the best of all possible worlds.”? What about the evil, the pain, the suffering, the inhumanity, the hate, the murder, the ugliness???
Well, he is said to have replied, “There IS error.”
No sh*t, Sherlock!! LOL!
We do have the freedom of choice, and we are free to err. I have erred. Everyone you know has erred either greatly or minimally or somewhere in between. Even in their area of “expertise”.
What makes it fantastically good is that we are also free to correct our errors.
Love is not an error. There alone there is great promise, being already “half-way there” imho. But error can still creep in, despite us telling everyone we meet,”I love you.”
When errors are being made by myself or ohers, that I cannot see from my limited perspective, I appreciate correction. If I am able to love truth more than my own ego, I can happily say, “I was wrong on THAT. I’m sure glad I found out! Thank you! I love not being as wrong as I was before!”
It is in that spirit I will revisit a few things about the last cafe….after tomorrow. Tomorrow is a long day, and 3 hours of driving.
But before I retire for an evening of viewing and listening……..HERE: for Pavel’s Chinese wife…….Chinese Orchestra and Chinese intruments play Roumanian Rhapsody!!
https://youtu.be/PdFu4f6YmZE
Check out the comments in Roumanian, Chinese, English, French, etc,etc.
New Silk Road, Baby!
I’m just wondering-that time of day- if/when we have approved “self moderators”, whether their biographies should be available..cos yours sounds really really really interesting……….
North Korean Documentary Exposes Western Propaganda and it’s scary how true it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqF3kR_7OMg
North Korean Morabong Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gkjDV2iqkU
North Korean Wangjaesan Troupe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeX3g_O5YhcAzorka1861
Correction – Moranbong
The song “By the long road” is known as “Those were the days”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE
Composer: Boris Fomin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEthM9BzD20
This is example how US-Kurd-ISIL co-operation is all about.
“The Arabic-language al-Watan daily quoted Sheikh Mohammad Amlah al-Daham, the leader of al-Akidat tribe, as saying that the US and Kurdish forces entered talks with the ISIL to let them capture the town of al-Basireh following the Syrian Army troops’ advances towards the town of al-Mayadeen in Southeastern Deir Ezzur.
He told al-Watan that the Kurdish forces demanded the ISIL to retreat from al-Basireh region and join the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in Hasaka province.
Al-Daham further told the paper that a large number of ISIL terrorists deployed in al-Basireh accepted the Kurd’s offer and joined the SDF, but, a number of them refused and stayed in the region to continue battle, pushing the initial agreement into failure.
Reports said earlier this month that almost 500 ISIL joined the Kurdish forces in the town of al-Shaddadi in Southern Hasaka. ”
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960712001192
I went to bed at 10, woke at 2, rose at 4. Full moon sinking into the western sea; how I love her. Came in here to this cozy office.
Apolonia was here yesterday with a male friend. Took some plants. She gets half my income but wants to formalize it with the courts in case something happens to me. So this morning I completed some court papers to that effect. Hearing in early December. I’ve been giving half of her half to Francis; she says she’ll now give it to him–we’ll see.
Saker, I read your piece on Russia’s 60 Minutes, making fun of Rex and Donald; and the Young Turk link to Trump in P. Rico, playing basketball with paper towels. Why not? It’s a tragedy but we Irish have fun at wakes, at the deceased’s expense. I hope they laugh at my funeral, too. Life is for Joy. Jesus said: “I have come that you may have life and have it more abundantly.” John 10:10.
Larchmonter 445, thanks for your remarks about Trump, at the Saker piece. You said it for me. I send love to Donald.
Bro 93, I just watched your new Romanian Rhapsody. Softer, but I like the California sunny one too. The photography is fun, especially from the train. I was in Romania years ago; at Dracula’s Castle near Transylvania. At my age of 77 now, I like it warm, Southern Cal style.
Thanks for the Flight of Time, with those real and imaginary birds. And I enjoyed your remarks on the Aeneid about feminine images in the background; and the original message not about war. I recall that Aeneas was headed home for wife and family; and to rid his house of the nasty suitors.
I got chills from your link to Heinrich Schliemann and Troy; and his “romantic faith” in the Iliad historicity, the riskiest speculation of his life. Sounds like me and the Love Army. I don’t like the glory of war meme but it’s part of our patrix cult, and must have some reason for it. A love army is paradoxical but just what we need. I believe it’s holding back the hand of justice, buying us time so we can learn what is and what isn’t.
Henrich saw it as a gift of the gods. I like the gift idea, but frame in terms of love from our advanced lovers. His wife, Sophia, and her ancient necklace, is touching. Also his gazing on the face of Agamemnon, with the flesh preserved, after the gold mask lifted, was awesome.
It sure was an heroic age. I push it back further from history to herstory, and the heroine age, our original home in the love culture. I watched Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia last night–they speak of the impossibility of understanding who we are, and for what, without a deep historical context. True, but again they don’t go back far enough; being stuck in what science can prove with probability.
Love is a science and technology we have yet to catch up to. I’ll talk more about that in other places. Have a good day.
Azorka 1861, I enjoyed “I’m little but a great winner.” Thought I saw a saker falcon. Next week Wednesday, I’m taking the slow train to Wisconsin, to 4000 acres of marsh, woods, river, etc., to the home of my sister and bro in law, and that extended family, on the cranberry marsh, where I lived for eight years–and there I might see cranes and eagles, besides deer and other wildlife.
My leg injury is healed so now I can walk an hour and a half up Love Army Road to Meiners Oaks, which I’ll do in a couple of hours. I’m so looking forward to walking the roads between the bogs and reservoirs on the marsh in Wisconsin. I get a lot of inspiration there.
Kent, I didn’t see the bird in the ice, until you pointed it out. Beautiful.
I’ve got some time before I eat my breakfast of oranges or buckwheat (haven’t decided which). I want to read the new articles by Saker and others. Saker, you’ve been prodigiously writing since you got back. Great stuff.
ioan, your poems and analyses are appreciated by yours truly. We differ on the subject of pets. Your poem “Dog’s point of view” I view as your projection. I have my own projection, which is opposite. Dogs tell me the other side, which basically is that we are enslaving them, and that’s why we are pets of empire. More on that later.
It’s going on 7. The fun sun will be up in about a half hour over the eastern hills. I am drying soaked and sprouted buckwheat in the dehydrator up at the big white house. I’ll put them out in the sun later. I’m putting them away for my train trip to Wisconsin. I can rehydrate them, and take along oranges. No more eating in the train diner for me; the food is awful, and my new raw diet cannot tolerate empire food.
I’ve been listening to Dylan’s Slow Train Coming, with my trip in mind. As you know, I like to take it slow, and smell the roses, rather than travel at obor speed, but that could change if obor ever sets its track to love.
Lastly, I made another schematic of the Love Army’s ten commandments of love; five are dominant, like one of our hands, and five are negative, like our non-dominant hand–sort of handbooks or manuals, as follows:
1. Think love.
2. Eat and drink love.
3. Free animals love.
4. Marry love.
5. Make moneylove.
———–
6. No drugs.
7. No abortion.
8. No artificial contraception.
9. No prostitution.
10. No pornography.
These are just bullet points; whole books could be written on each point; with multiple shades of meaning. Then there’s the Love Bower, with even deeper and richer experiences. I want to live to 101, so I can live Love 101. All are oriented to stopping war.
Enough for now. See you later, alligator; love your style, crocodile.
Love, Dennis, Ojai, posted at 7:33 am pacifically and 2:33 pm universally
Love didn’t slow Genghis Khan down any.
In a way, it (love of forceful energy) spurred him on to teach wide expanses of the World Island something fundamentally true:
The Sacred Feminine requires marriage with the Sacred Masculine in order to defend its rights to love and live in peace without rape, looting and slavish subjugation, by putting down violence of natural law rights with justified FORCE in defense of those rights.
Bro, I just read the rest of your last comment, after the Rhapsody. Nice. I’ll reply later. Love, Dennis
老子, … Laozi, (604 BC to 531 BC) was an ancient Chinese philosopher, who wrote the Tao Te Ching.
Journey back into ancient China, listen and learn.
(https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/tao-te-ching)
Notes: When Laozi laughs after he has spoken, this ‘laughter’ is not jest, but is a marker showing respect and peace … meaning ‘no argument with anything’ … utmost politeness.
If the stringed instrument music appears ‘dull’, this is because we live in a fast moving modern world overfilled with sounds and we have lost slow ancient serenity.
This film is based on ancient history.
《老子出关》|| 1080HD【Chi-Eng SUB】 荣获美国世界民族电影节大奖 一个关于道家文化起源的故事
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiS7EzS6wbo
Lao Tse was my guide when I was in my 39th year crisis and suddenly was
cast out of all ‘adulthood’ once and for all by a touch of God
ever since he was my eastern arch superbly fitting to western arch = astrology,
which I met later and to C.G.Jung whom I met yet later in a confluence
of east and west
Russia and China, I love these east-winds
mundanomaniac, here is the link I should have left, and I trust you include Iran and the great Ancient Persian Empire (Pars) in your love of East Winds.
http://www.with.org/tao_te_ching_en.pdf
… and for you …
Immortal Iran – World Cup Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph3nMRbR5zk
My oldest astrological master is Abu Ma’shar of Balki,
a great instance of Iranian spirit and wisdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ma%CA%BFshar
I hate to say this, but IMO the film is pretty bad. The actor who plays Laozi is especially bad.
Soon after the one minute mark the film makes an error, when Laozi mentions teaching a prince and “other kings”, by which he means “other princes”. Actually, in Laozi’s times China had one king. (The First Emperor was yet to be born.) Although some feudal lords were powerful they were nominally the king’s vassals. When on rare occasions a couple of them called themselves kings, it was basically an act of rebellion. It was decades or more after Laozi’s had died, when the king became weaker and the feudal lords more powerful and unruly that a lot more of them started calling themselves kings, but they were genuine kings (of their states) instead of princes. Later in Chinese history, when emperors ruled the country, princes were often given the title “king”.
At about the seven and a half minute mark, the film makes another error. There a man writes with a Chinese brush, but the invention of the Chinese brush is usually attributed to a general under the First Emperor (3rd century B.C., while Laozi probably lived in the 5th century B.C.).
I stopped watching the film soon after seeing the second anachronism.
The Chinese title of the film on YouTube says that it won a prize at a film festival in the U.S.. I doubt whether it really did.
Besides being a philosopher Laozi wrote some of the most succinct, powerful and beautiful prose. Unfortunately the film doesn’t do him justice.
The earliest intact Chinese ink brush was found in 1954, in the tomb of a Chu citizen of the Warring States period which lasted from 475 to 221 BC.
Brushes prior to this would have decayed, broken up, turned to dust and be incomplete for proper identification.
So what ! … I think you should brush this suggested trifling anachronism aside and come to your senses, and what would Lao Tse think if he heard someone say, “I hate to speak … “, and then do so … ! ?
As for a film doing Lao Tse justice, consider how many days long that film would be ; ) and then you would be complaining of a sore backside and sore eyes ! … ; ))
A quick OT add-on post to my comment in Saker’s analysis on Kurds/Catalons, theorizing that Canada’s political class is being threatened and is buying off the Mafioso US Deep State in exchange for a little domestic tranquility (I think this is how Canada’s politicos usually do it –)
Recently, we’ve graciously hosted special visits from Hillary and Bill (at separate events), Obama and Biden. And Prince Harry – but I think that might have been friendly. (Invictus Games)
It does raise the question: how do Canadian people want to respond to the threats, assuming that is what’s happening??
A quick add-on to the add-on: this may be over the top, but Lebanon has Hezbollah. Because of the permanent threat from a hyper-aggressive militarized neighbour? Food for thought, even if it’s uncomfortable to consider (for me it is). In addition to the Anglo-imperial shake-down, are we getting it from the Franco side, too? I’m referring to the pronouncement by France’s Finance Minister that Bombardier will be absorbed by newly-merged Siemens-Alstom. Thanks, allies.
From now on the lower 48 will be referred to as “the Exceptionalist entity” :-)
Prof. Michel Chossudovsky is giving the following speech in the Philippines today. In it, he calls for the creation of a broad, grassroots anti-war movement that includes members of the Armed Forces.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/from-global-poverty-to-exclusion-and-despair-reversing-the-tide-of-war-and-globalization/5611619
“Lebanon has Hezbollah” was not my observation (And I’m sure we can all guess who is the Canadian Nasrallah!) At least, I’m guessing this call for organized civilian resistance goes straight to the top of Canada’s Armed Forces. Probably a perspective worth listening to.
That said, I’d much rather head to the still-publicly-owned beach, find some nice sand and bury my head in it for a while. Then rinse off and do some cross-border shopping. (Good people, Washingtonians.)
Let’s see if Canadians can be as resolute and resilient as Russians in the face of the threat of terrorism. (And really, at some point we are going to run out of oil to sell at discounted rates, industrial enterprises to give away, and waterfront property. Might as well face the music.)
The man that can mend broken watches: http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/_MG_8595.JPG
Also known as the “Spoon-Guy”: http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/_MG_8673.JPG
Cleaning some of my older photo hard-drives. Lot’s of pictures of this guy.
Kent
Dear Kent, Apart from being a demon, that is the entity that is known by us as S. Jobs. Am I right?
Nope. Uri Geller.
Regards
Kent
Yes, Uri Geller, who obtained a special alloy material by his connections with a Department of Metallurgy via the Tel Aviv University in Israel.
Geller claimed he was using his mind power to bend the spoons, became famous and made a fortune.
Geller is gifted but corrupt, lends his gift to the Jewish military and Jewish spooks so that they may be able to produce „wonders” to impress their targets for intimidation or recruitment or both. In preparation they install themselves in the flat below their target (in case you live as a tenant, and not on the ground floor) and find – obviously, and with the usual means – a way to make the tenant‘s landlord cooperate (or else…). In such a setup one evening I detected that the radiator in our bathroom (seemingly made of massive metal as all the other radiators in the flat) had suddenly developed a small bulge at the bottom. Touching it, I found it to be thin , easy to deform… A specialist was called, looked at it, and strongly recommended not touching it again lest it might break and let the water out…, and the next morning the radiator was replaced. My impression was that the bulge where the metall was (without damage from rust etc.) suddenly as thin as paper had been created to break in our absence, to flood the flat below and make the throwing out of such barbars by the cooperating landlord a necessity… However, in this case, Yahwe worked for us, not them.
There had been two cases of „spontaneous“ metal bending before. One was that of a small but stout hook of an Olympus camera strap. The strap was no longer usable, and there was no way of bending the thing back to normal with tongs. And then there these nail scissors with straight pointed ends. One day I saw the straight tops had become rounded tops. I put them back into my tool box, and when I beheld them the next time, much later, one top was straight and one rounded, and this until today. I keep the now unusable thing as a memento mori: MoSSad is watching and will be ditching you, with Uri Geller being one of those „willige Vollstrecker“ helping to make a certain country „finally great“.
Does the M-man have some serious issues??, or is it just because it is raining at an inconvenient time?
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/Medveyev-Putin.jpg
Kent
I wonder what was telling Putin to Medvedev, about weather ?
” Well, my friend, I thing we get soaked but that matter ?”
‘Silk Road’ train from China reaches London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQrO6kAMcA
Inside this ”Illuminati Temple” will shock you! (R$E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuT_4XElXOU
Kitaro Silk Road 1-4 & Ki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvqmrVngKIU
Radiation leaks detected in western Europe, thought to originate in eastern Europe. Would you be surprised if the Ukraine was mis-managing its nuclear facilities?
https://phys.org/news/2017-10-spike-airborne-radioactivity-europe.html
An update on the radiation leak in Europe, and yes, it seems to be originating in the Ukraine – see the map at the link.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-06/spike-airborne-radioactivity-detected-europe-source-located-southern-urals
On the subject of radioactivity … wild boars are overly radioactive in Sweden … Why ?
The animal’s radiation levels are more than ten times the safe limit as boar radiation levels rise in Sweden.
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201710061058006358-sweden-radioactivity-boars/
Just got back from my walk/trolley ride into Ojai, three and a half miles from here. For breakfast I had two oranges I picked myself. As I type, I am eating a brunch of soaked buckwheat fruit and chia seeds, which someone else picked.
Bro, I listened to and watched some of the LaRouche alcolyte’s talk on China, and a bit of the Chinese orchestra’s Rhapsody. Will get back for rest, as time allows.
I agree with Leibnitz’s belief that this is the best of all worlds. He didn’t know why, but I do, or think I do. The main reason is that this vineyard cafe has appeared here in our day. What we make of it is what will determine our fate if Leibnitz is correct.
Paul, not Pavel Paul, who is rivaling Saker for prodigious output, but Paul of Tarsus, said, after listing all the powers of heaven and earth, “There are these three: faith, hope and charity, but the greatest of them is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:13).
I would develop Paul’s thesis to this: there are these three–power, money and love, but the greatest of them is love.” Power is connected to religion; money is linked with security; and love is coincident with freedom.
Love has a thousand and one faces, most of them false. Moses’ ten commandments dealt with power. Jesus’ one commandment of love dealt with security. The cafe vineyard’s ten commandments of love by the Love Army gives a new deal of freedom.
What we make of it is still uncertain. What is certain is that “we happy few” will determine the course of the world. Jesus said from his vineyard to this one: “What I do, you shall do and even greater.”(John 14:12).
Of late, I’ve been working on the first two love commandments: think love and eat love. It’s getting so that I think love all day long, or is it love thinks me? That involves desire, will, emotion, choice, imagination, dream, body, soul and all. Love is the key word for opening the door to all. When I don’t do this, I suffer the consequences.
The second commandment, involving diet, has been a lifetime of changes and challenges. It’s still going on. I am what I eat and drink. I am what I love and think. I am taken to the brink. Nobody is forcing me to drink at the well of love, in this desert of submarines; and no one is standing in my way, other than myself.
All you relativists shrink back from going over the edge into the absolute of love. I’m a relativist, too, you know; and shirk that plunge into the depths. But the time is short, and armies are on the march. Out of fear, as much as anything else, I try to get in step with the Love Army, stumbling and limping as I go.
It’s approaching high noon, on this sunny and hot day in Ojai Vulva Valley. What’s in store? Shoot-out at the OK Corral, or show-down in Armageddon Alley? I don’t know but I’m hoping for the west, and preparing for the worst.
I’m done with my brunch. I want to get some things done before my train trip to Wisconsin. I’ve got a hunch that this will be some kind of a turning point, as I turn from 77 to 78. I’ll have to check with the stars for what they portend. 77 has been quite a rocky ride, but lucky nevertheless. I think 78 will be just great, but I’ll have to see and wait; and not be late at your gate.
Love, Dennis, Ojai Ohigh at High Noon in this Valley of the Moon, posted at 12 noon here and 7 pm there, in universal time everywhere…
A milder rebuke, because it is important, IMHO.
When I am rushed I get irritable with such statements as
“He didn’t know why, but I do, or think I do.”
The first 4 words of that formulation are a patently absurd WAG. (Wild-Assed Guess).
GW Liebniz did NOT “not know why” he said and wrote “This is the best of all possible worlds.”
He knew EXACTLY why he wrote it and said it.
I mean it is nice what Dennis says about us and the Cafe but (more generously put than my first…moderated away reply……..) it is frankly insulting to the man that originated the concept to put oneself on a higher plane than him …..apparently a day after hearing the famous phrase!!
I assure you the famous statement was made with a great deal of knowledge, and no guesswork…..Like everything else Leibniz said or wrote he knew why he said it and wrote it and amply and intelligibly illustrated his point. Though not everyone understood him or even wanted to try to. Voltaire, for example.
Anyway, read Leibniz’s argument before going off half-cocked guessing, please. It is in his Monadology.
In fact, that very point became a major philosophical and political battleground during his life and that of his opponent, the cynical Voltaire, whose novel CANDIDE was written in a transparently disengenuous attempt to avoid the deeper issues of the matter underlying Leibniz’s philosophical and scientific point.
Denis talks in the language of soul, but you in that of science.
Each of yours is telling me what I want to know: your monologue,
the “Selbstgespräch” of your oldgrown ‘mutatuli’ -brains …
I did some research on MH17 over a few years and came up with this, be interested in any comments…………
On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile. Sukhoi Su-25 combat aircraft participated in the exercise.
This why a large group of air defense systems were deployed to the militia-held regions just before the tragedy, even though the NAF self-defense forces had no planes. And also why on the day of the crash Russia recorded that Kiev had intensified Kupol-M1 9S18 radar activity, key targeting system components.
On the same day flight MH17 stayed within its flight corridor until it reached Donetsk but then it deviated from the route to the north. A Russian monitoring system registered that there were Ukrainian Air Force jets, probably Su-24’s or Su-25’s in the immediate vicinity of MH17, eye witnesses say at least one was climbing and approaching flight MH17.
Which begs the question why was a military jet flying so close to a passenger plane? It would appear that flight MH17 had been diverted into the region of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment training exercises. If that is the case then it is likely that the routes of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 and a Su-25 jet overlapped. Despite flying at different levels, they would become a single dot on the radar of the missile system and of the two the system would automatically chose the larger target.
So when the civil aviation moved MH17 to a new flight path into the Ukrainian 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment regoin doing practical exercises and may have led to the accidental launch on MH17.
Practical exercises with the Buk missiles in Ukraine had been banned since 2001, when a Russian Tu-154 passenger airplane en route from Novosibirsk to Tel Aviv was shot down by the Ukrainian military.
I also note that all norms of the International Civil Aviation Organization ICAO were violated in the investigation of the crash of Malaysia’s MH17 flight in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine’s security services are directly involved in this investigation yet much of the evidence suggests that Ukraines security services could well be responsible for the demise of flight MH17.
I also note reports of an airbase employee in eastern Dnipropetrovsk where three Ukrainian air force Su-25’s combat jets took off and at least one was carrying air-to-air missiles on the same day. This employee further two were shot down in Donbass and the third returned without missiles. The man flying this plane was captain Vladislav Voloshin, from the city of Nikolaev.
Russia Proving Ukraine shot down Mh17 through satellite images and radar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mT5g9eEFhw
Perhaps you know, or be interested to know, that MH370 and MH17 are the same plane.
If you want this information search on the website of Jim Stone, and follow the research yourself and make your own conclusions.
I am not going to argue with dis-informers, because I have done my research and have considered all information, and disinformation.
Some important information has been removed from YouTube.
Concerning your last paragraph, it is correct, and this witness gave an interview to Russia 1 Television, which was on YouTube. If I can find I will post.
In the meantime …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuoIw3jBV4g
Here is the same interview I remember …
[eng subs] KP: “Interview with new witness in MH17 case”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiH8KZOfNfg
MH370 went down somewhere around the South China Sea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370
Not the same plane as MH17.
I wouldn’t rely on Jim Stone.
Alternate view of Jim Stone, including from his ex:
http://thethrowaways.freeforums.net/thread/129/faq-wip-stone-fraud-exposed
Where do you think old, long dead bodies lacking blood came from ! ?
Potential passengers at Schiphol airport were refused tickets on flight MH17 at only 85% full.
There was no room for baggage because MH17 was carrying MH370 dead, all hermetically sealed because the air conditioning circulates, and is shared within the entire plane.
The following Russian report shows these bodies.
Viewer discretion is advised.
MH17: The facts from the crash place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu8XrvsqbaE
Funny Police Sketches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PTMO1qIyCY