Moveable Feast Cafe 2018/02/27 … Open Thread

Finally the neocons let Gen Votel out into the open as McMasters keeps in the shadowy back ground of politics:

http://theduran.com/russia-threatens-american-dominance/

This is it, folks—this is who runs foreign policy.

But don’t think the Russians are clueless:

https://www.rt.com/news/420036-putin-kurz-moscow-syria-ukraine/

And while all eyes are on E Ghouta:

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syria-accuses-us-coalition-massacring-another-30-civilians-deir-ezzor/

jmeanwhile on the home front in the belly of the beast: Looks like I will be stocking up on vitamins–actually my chiropractor assures me they seem to be very high quality. They are doing a ” Paul Revere” free speech marathon broadcast Thursday and into Friday on the Full Moon. Bless their clueless selves!

https://www.infowars.com/watch-live-deep-state-hell-bent-on-censoring-infowars/

Arctic front dubbed the ‘beast from the east’ by the media has hit Ireland.

The regular folks are calling it ‘Storm Dave’.

Government has ordered everyone to stay indoors between 4pm Thursday and noon Friday.

Temp to go as low as – 10.

We don’t want to let our government down, and are dutifully doing the ‘panic’ thing. Who knows, maybe Dave really is a ‘beast’…

Here’s a tweet from one ‘obedient’ citizen:

“Busy day. The panic buying of 23 loaves of bread isn’t going to do itself. “#BeastFromTheEast

A very interesting article by Thierry Meyssan on the situation on the ground in Syria. Will he turn out to be right?

http://www.voltairenet.org/article199874.html

I’d like to hear some people say, “I feel like a New Man!”

Or woman.

If you’re too much in love with your old chains, it is unlikely, however. Newness frightens many people. The old chains, particularly of Empire…… are soooo comfortable! And so “you”….like slipping into an old glove…or pair of shoes.

Sometimes my wife makes me feel like a new man. Yesterday she sent me a link from a new man (for me) from her homeland……Iskander Valitov. One presumes he was named before the missile by the same name. Or Isky Racing cams.

http://www.iskycams.com/the-legend.html

I sat in the founders office once, in Gardena, LA County and talked to Ed Iskanderian. He wanted to know more about “The Bankers”…the “Federal” (it isn’t…..) Reserve….and, of course “The Jews”. Many of them aren’t either.

The “ian” in his code (ie name) added to Valitov’s first name tells us that Ed’s forefathers were Armenian and he is Armenian-American. By chance he could just as easily, or more easily, have been Armenian-Russian.But I digress.

Valitov (I don’t know what that code means…..or Iskander either…..in man or missile code) cites Alexander (note the common “ander” in the code of both names..which means???..) Zinoviev, in the link my wife sent me, writing of his purpose to facilitate the birthing and development of The New Man:

“I see the emergence of a New Man being as the only hope we have as a sentient species, and I do hope that this miracle happens before too long. All these years we have seen the practical, businesslike, shrewd, cruel and egotistical people methodically trample down everything that’s decent and humane about people. All I want is for the New Man to survive, it is my fondest and most cherished dream. Otherwise there is no hope for our survival as a species”

The Silk Road Lady (much to the old man’s distress) also speaks of this New Man in a New Paradigm, working off a New Economic Platform code for which is the Old Lepretard-frightening OBOR or NEW Silk Road or World Landbridge.

The chains rattle under the trollish bridge, which is the only bridge that feels like “home”, And fearful stirring occurs. What about “Same old, Same old” Bridge?”, comes the complaint. “What about ME???”

OK. What about you?

Nothing personal, but what does your bridge do for taking us over these troubled waters Valitov writes of:

Nothing personal

“After Hitler, European civilization greatly advanced murder technologies: high-precision viruses that target only certain ethnic groups, various kinds of psychotropic radiation and corresponding pharmacologically “eco-friendly” nuclear weapons. In the absence of the state, infrastructure and control mechanisms will be switched off, and things will happen that we can’t even guess.”

(“So much for Libertarianism?” asks Bro 93..could it be “A Bridge Too Short”??..) Valitov continues:

“Taking into account the rulers’ love for “nature”, you realize that our chances of survival are very low. It is more important to them to save “nature” than to provide for 7 billion extra people on the planet. This is clear from the movie Avatar. What is coming is not nazism, but corporate fascism. The owners of key transnational corporations will balance their economies, and the liquidation of billions of people will be an environmental issue – nothing personal.

That is, the issue is not the “Limits to Growth” the Club of Rome wrote about in the seventies. Today’s social systems do not have room for the majority of the world’s population. Subsidized reservations will be liquidated as useless, the means are already in place, with one exception, perhaps: there is still Russia with her nuclear-missile potential and relatively sovereign leadership. And because we can prevent a program of global planetary genocide, we are no longer being “contained”; we are being weakened and potentially destroyed.”

It’s from this 2 year old article : http://zinoviev.info/wps/archives/2091

Iskander Valitov: Russia as the Last Obstacle to Global Planetary Genocide

Here’s how he ends, proposing new approaches to overcome the globalist imperatives of an old Zeussian—read “oligarchical” (Zeuss, from the cluody heights of Mt Olympus, was disgusted by Man’s Mutiplication…and had the same NWO “solution”: Wholesale Subtraction….genocide) dilemma:

“How can we (He means Russia….but I mean all of us….) increase humanity’s ability to exist? That is the question our country must answer. To be on the defensive in a siege is a losing strategy. We need to demonstrate a level of civilization that preserves humans and their ability to act. In our country, everyone has to do necessary, important, and if possible, interesting work. There needs to be a lot of work involving all an individual’s skills and potential. The true quality of human life is measured in the intensity and sophistication of his activity.

A few ideas for further discussion

First, the entire field of scientific research and technological development needs to be freed from the need to find solutions via mass production and economic outcomes. It should be structured in such a way that technologies, devices, things are designed for the sake of design. Sales volume should not limit activities. Breakthroughs should be decided by people responsible for vital sectors, not developers. Potentially there will be a lot of work like this.

Second, instead of globalization, we must bet on local diversity, freeing people from the power of transnational corporations with their unification, standardization, etc. We need to increase local autonomy in power, food production and health care, building self-sufficient economies, each with their architecture, food, health care models. All this will require complex activities, and therefore, people.

Third, we need to turn our attention to human reserves. So far, European civilization has mastered the potential of lifeless nature, including humans. European medicine treats humans as imperfect devices that need to be repaired, parts replaced, fixed, etc. Medicine doesn’t take into account human potential, foremost consciousness, that allows us to harmonize, transform, recover, revive, and even rebuild the body. Mass health practices built with this approach could provide an inexhaustible amount of new work, blurring boundaries between producers and consumers. Everyone could build their own health, supported by awareness, techniques.

For the development of these and similar areas we need appropriate policies and power. We need a new socialism, which is not concerned with liberating man from exploitation, but rather focused on his maximum involvement in complex and meaningful activities.”

Will OBOR enhance the Freedom of the New Man Iskander and Helga both speak of, or do the opposite??

What does the old, Sea Power Geopolitics of Empire offer, in that regard?

I think the new physical economy platform envisioned and partly realized by Hamilton and Lincoln is a “seed” within the “code” of the New Silk Road, World Landbridge and OBOR. (All interchageable “code”) is a powerful threat to the NWD (they’ve just rounded out the D to an O….but its real content is Disorder…..and Violation of Natural Law Rights….not the phony “defense of human rights” pretended by their stormtrooper “white” helmets.

Code can easily be corrupted. This is why the consciousness of Zinoviev’s or Helga’s New Man must rise. It can’t stay down at the low level it’s been at for several millenia. OR, we’re in for the “same old, same old”.

How boring.

Encryption is also code. Is New Money part of the New Man…..or the Same Old Disorder?? Is it Debt Slavery Usury ….or could that be nonsensical willfully uniformed “same old, same old” prejudice and slander against built in Equity (fairness) onmay levels. We shall see, and perhaps determine the better outcome, instead of fearfully awaiting our “new” chains. But that comes in the next comment. Gotta run.

Armchair Cafe Theology Part 8

Joe Atwill came up in a link at the last cafe. Miles Mathis thinks he’s a spook working for Intelligence. I am inclined to agree, but give Joe the benefit of the doubt that it’s unwittingly done. A devious intelligence can twist the best of minds and intentions.

I’ve read Joe’s Caesar’s Messiah and his Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah. I’ve read the bible; some parts many times, since I was raised on it; and I’ve read much on the origins of Christianity, since it deeply interests me. I think Joe is making a huge mistake of misinterpretation; and it’s terribly damaging to Christianity. That’s why Miles and I think he’s a spook because it’s the Jewish deep state that wants to destroy Christianity, its ancient enemy.

Don’t get me wrong. Joe has an abundance of needed information to advance the causes we support. I think Orthodox theology is critical to saving our planet. I don’t know what Joe’s beliefs are but what he is saying is damaging to what I believe. Like Miles, he is outing Jews in both his books; but he is also revealing truths about the Roman Empire’s tampering with early Christianity, like the new empire of today is still doing to present day Christianity.

If I understand him correctly, Joe is saying there was no historical Jesus, but he was made up from gods of the surrounding cultures. This contradicts what I have read citing external sources like Josephus and several others. We don’t know much about this Jesus, other than he seems to have been called Christos, but we know he actually existed.

From Atwill himself, Jesus could not have said anything good about the Romans, as the gospels do, or he would have been killed by his own people. Jesus was therefore an enemy of the Roman empire, which is why they killed him as a rebel, with the connivance of the pharisees and priests. The Romans have overlaid original Christian sources with a Jesus who was friendly to Rome. That’s impossible to be historically true.

These Christian source were extant before the Roman rewrite; it is most probable that the Romans took these sources and framed them in their own propaganda. Biblical form criticism and exegesis have described these, such as miracle stories, parables, sayings, infancy narrative, geneologies, prophecies from the Old Testament, messianic predictions, curses, gematria, Greek geometrics, a developed theology, polemics against the scribes and pharisees and their talmudism, instructions for church authority, and you name it.

Many elements came from Judaism, Greek and Roman cultures and many more. Jesus was some kind of magnet that attracted the best teachings and some of the worst. But contrary to Atwill, there was an historical character who held it all together. From reason and faith, that such a person existed is certain as certain can be. I stand by it, and against the Atwill types who doubt it or deny it.

Orthodox theology can do no less, and call itself orthodox. Orthodoxy is the only force I can see that can reinvigorate Christianity and stop the flood of liberal immorality. Such a theology must fight on two fronts, one being immoral liberalism and the other being an ignorant, fixated and fearful conservative Christianity. We need a theology that gives us moral certainty, that can awaken enthusiasm in a new key, and have a vehicle to convey it.

This vineyard cafe is just the place to do the job. Now we don’t all subscribe to Christianity, or theology at all. Very few do and I happen to be one of them. The faster way is to go directly to Love; the slower but surer way is to work back in historical theology and trace its development over time. The religious doctrines are treasures for me. Maybe some day I’ll make a card deck of them, sort of like icons but with greater variety.

I am already using tarot cards for a similar purpose, since their themes are practically nothing but religious. All individuals and societies have a religious base, although many do their best to deny it. At least they practice sentimental, romantic and comforting love. Tough love, as presented in the Love Army’s ten commandments of love is another matter.

It bears repeating that the ten new commandments are an ideal standard; and also very real. They are also a seed that will take thousands of years to turn back the clock of 75,000 years of patriarchy. No one has to do anything regarding them; especially in a fast way. As Jesus said, if the seed falls on good ground and gets water, it will grow, and become a mighty tree.

Joe Atwill is sowing seeds on rock and unwatered sand. He’s not alone–the whole world is becoming a wasteland, where we feast on false expectations. Jesus was a real human person, who became a potent sign and symbol of humanity’s hopes and aspirations. You might have a different ideal person but if he or she is imbued with true love, the name is a secondary concern; it’s the deep down game that matters.

Orthodox Theology means one that is straight and true. I go straight back to our origins in Eden, a natural paradise, which earth was at that time, and in some places still is. Eden means “pleasure where waters flow.” It’s the story of truth, told in the medium of that time, which was through myths. That’s my starting place, which develops naturally into the theological doctrines of God, Christ, Revelation, Salvation, Trinitarian Community, Incarnation, Sacramentalism, Heaven, Communion of Saints, Prayer, Authorization, Scripture, Miracles, Faith and Reason, Origin of Evil and so many more.

The core doctrines give us moral certainty, which was ripped from our hearts by deceit and lies. We can recover it in the slow way of incremental learning or the fast way of direct love, which Jesus extended to the good thief on the cross, when the robber asked for it. “This day you shall be with me in Paradise.”

Love, Dennis