2019/07/23 16:00:01
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For the Canadian Sakerites: this blog has a fantastic cadre of dedicated, politically involved Canadian readers. You are making a real impact. In the previous cafe, there was a comment about Vancouver, BC turning into Monaco-nouveau. One non-political perspective on how to address this: implement a special visa regime for residents of Vancouver. (Data housed in the Dept of National Defense, overseen by CSIS. Yes, they spy on us and we spy on them back.) This is how you keep Vancouver functioning as a city and not as a playground for the very wealthy. Any business or organization with a head office, or primary operations, based in the states of Washington or Oregon is not permitted to establish a branch office in Vancouver. (They might consider Chilliwack, which incidentally would be the nearest permitted location for a Starbucks.) Otherwise, we can starve them back to their home countries. (Ordinary residents will stand in food lines when there are shortages.)
Thoughts?
I have to add another, separate opinion for a correction. The proper procedure for handling rose hips in Canada, as opposed to England, is to have the First Nations grow, harvest and process them and then smuggle them in. Just for future reference.
Thoughts
by ioan
Our time is running out, like carpet under feet
My mind begins to doubt the future and my needs
The sorrows of the past, convulsing in my soul
Long will gonna last until I reach my goal
Oh God, please take me out, take me in Your home
My soul is screaming loud, within his inner phone
But be it on your will, You’re the operator
I pay my daily bills while You’re the navigator !
What else can do a man, than listen to Your call
Then doing what he can to liberate itself, for all…
How to get along; laugh at the ‘unlaughable’ together…
Dedication; Raskolnikov.
Laughing at the Unlaughable
Oh laugh,
ye merry men, laugh!
Be boisterous,
come join the fray!
See the roisterer roar,
down on all fours –
Laughing the
unlaughable away.
Oh laugh,
ye merry men, laugh!
Don’t hold in
contempt the day!
Where tempers once flared,
now rounds are shared –
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
Oh come,
ye merry men, laugh!
And drink the
long night away!
You’ve raised the stockade.
Overcome the blockade –
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
Come laugh,
ye merry men, laugh!
The price of resistance
is paid!
The day is but young;
Dreams are still won –
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
Come laugh,
Ye merry men, laugh!
Come while there’s time
make hay!
Men they will sport,
and women hold court –
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
So laugh,
ye merry men, laugh!
Leave the houses
you’ve built of clay!
For men in the earth
have no time for mirth –
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
Come laugh,
ye merry men, laugh!
May the blessings be
always in play!
The unlaurelled have come;
Awaiting the sun…
Laughing the
unlaughable away!
In Macedonian, “raskolnikov” means ‘the schismatic” or “the heretic”. Yet under the listed definitions, a ‘schismatic’ is listed as ‘a dissenter, a freethinker, iconoclast, nonconformist, revisionist, skeptic’, and so on. We human beings are in a delicate situation, by the time we’ve ‘built the altar’, the Spirit has already moved on. How do we remain abreast of developments where Spirit is concerned? Well, one way we can notice that we’ve ‘missed the train’ is how angry do we get? Another way is, how easily can we let go of an idea we fought vehemently for ‘only yesterday’? In the end, we have to rise above the band of human emotion/controversy and look dispassionately at what the inner wisdom is telling us, and what the outer conditions are, and go from there.
I felt that Ioan’s line; “What else can a man do, than listen to Your call…?” was a fitting introduction to this piece. The idea of the “unlaughable” came out of an exchange with ‘Raskolnikov’, last Cafe, so ‘laughing at the unlaughable’ is essentially, the first step at being able to rise above an impending “impossible ask”, whatever it may be. As Blake said, “great things happen when men and mountains meet”.
P.S. The “unlaurelled” are the ‘schismatics’, the true freethinkers, iconclasts etc. who live in “eternity’s sunrise”…
Beautifully, poignantly put Dimitar
Heart and hale, to you, dear Babuška!
Now if only we could line up all the persons we think deserve our mocking and laugh out loud at their follies…..would that not be a kindness to them….? Protests and words do not really seem to have an effect but only reinforce their schizohrenic entranchment and projection. How else can we get across to them that their should be true engagement with us the peoples unless we lock them all up for compulsory societal re-education involving compassion…true moral and spiritual laws of responsibility?
Good question. But who are we to teach anyone anything? The individual’s state of consciousness is sacred.
If we don’t understand that, we eventually learn it the hard way. As for developing a high standard of ethics, experience teaches the individual that very thing. Many of us – esp. those that are privileged, are still struggling with the idea of karma, for example. But karma is interwoven in the very fabric of day-to-day life, and none are exempt. Its like a two sided coin, with both “good” and “bad” faces, which then directs our future experience. There’s a lot to say on this subject, but the most important part is we can only live our own lives acc. to the principles we consider good, right, charity etc. and become an example to others.
“The individual’s state of consciousness is sacred.”
With this statement you can close the universities which in the 13th century displaced the
place of scholarship from monastery to university, from remoteness to city.
But You are right, it’s the individual’s state of consciousness, that matters. There is no
discipline like astrology, to open the consciousness to times to man.
Under the stars there is no such thing like a New Yorker, Londoner or Berliner. But there are bulls and fishes and lions and Capricorns … in the shape of man, desperate to find their place in the chaos
of daily terrestrial life under the meaningful stars.
I finish with your finish:
“the most important part is we can only live our own lives acc. to the principles we consider good, right, charity etc. and become an example to others.”
Cheers from Bavaria
and here my contribution for this week:
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2019/07/heart-power-for-man-god-and-conception.html
turning to you
when the odds are against it;
knowing what to do!
walking the earth
navigating the heavens –
the treadmill of time
one more hour left –
can’t wait to come home to you!
late afternoon crowd
Tricky energy
Kind thoughts to Raskolnikov
Dispelling the clouds on high
A good seventeen syllable Haiku dose at the cafe, pass the vinegar luv will ya, time for some cirrus Q updates…
Ras
a life worth living;
nothing ventured, nothing gained –
vinegar or sauce?
Hi, Andrei. Please see:
North Korea’s New Submarine
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-23/state-media-posts-photos-kim-john-uns-new-powerful-submarine
We have previously discussed North Korea’s submarine capabilities. Something like this takes years to design and build. What else might they have?
They might have made peace if it wern’t for all the U.S. gvt stooges ruining the human race.
Well, of course. And those stooges are to be found all over the planet, of every race and ethnicity. And stooges of other corporate entities, too. It’s all corporatism, don’t you see?
But my comment simply expressed a concrete fact and asked what other military technology North Korea may have that has not so far been revealed.
We just don’t know Richard.
Call it what ever you like, I see a problem that refuses to be rational and listen to reason. And why should it be a known to the opposition until a/the confrontation is reached? All things that are a known are reacted too so the damage becomes minimum, by revealing something you eliminate the element of surprise, this is what I see.
Yes.
So why, then, did the North Koreans reveal the weapon system publicly, in advance of a military confrontation, thereby eliminating the element of surprise? Presumably to forestall military adventurism on the part of the Pentagon, would be the obvious guess.
To be sure, reason and rationality have precious little to do with nuclear brinksmanship. If reason and rationality governed this world, nuclear weapons would not exist in the first place.
All they are asking is for the U.S. to stop their military manuevors in their back yard, then all is well and good. You cant force someone to give up their defense as you bulk up your offensive year after year. They have seen many times over that the military can not be trusted, these offensive gestures do breed trust, so who is it that is not being rational here?
Comment: from my perspective you appear to be arguing with yourself.
I absolutely fail to understand the sense of this phrase:
“They have seen many times over that the military can not be trusted, these offensive gestures do breed trust, so who is it that is not being rational here?”
What offensive measures are you referring to and precisely how do they breed trust? Who is it that does not trust the military, i.e., who are “they”?
And forgive me, but your last clause, “…(W)ho is it that is not being rational here?” — completely escapes me.
I simply observed that in a rational and reasonable world nuclear weapons would not exist to begin with.
If you find that to be a controversial or combative statement, I’m sorry, I don’t know what else to say.
I’m done. I wish you well, “Alabama”.
Laughter. The news is becoming so unreal that RT just posted a hilarious article with the title Shrodinger’s Drone
Leaders of the Free World
Bully and Buffoon
When Alice’s Wonderland
Plays with Looneytunes
We’re late we’re late
for an uncertain fate
We’re doomed, we’re doomed
So gag me with a spoon!
Shrodinger’s Drone
Ah It’s one of those pesky known unknowns
That bedevils the pert world of right
And wrongs
Your seized ship becomes our contraband asset
Our seized ship just shows your
Criminal facet
Continue this way for long
Will sound Earth ‘s swan song
Ending not with a bang but a simper
… not so “smart” technology …
Tencent Keen Security Lab Experimental Security Research of Tesla Autopilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QSsKy0I9L
… with a 1960 pop song …
Seven Little Girls (Sitting in the Back Seat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cjaheraq8
Recorded at the Little Theater in New York City on January 16, 1960.
… correction …
Tencent Keen Security Lab Experimental Security Research of Tesla Autopilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QSsKy0I9LE
(there are many videos and reports related to this topic)
Cafe header photo 7/23/19
Too Hot to Trot
Outside it’s sizzling
Plans start frizzling
It’s too hot to trot
At Cafe Stress-Not
Let’s meet at cool midnight
Under serene moonlight
To sip and sup and chat
Philosophize chewing the fat
Attn: Amarynth:
This is too overwhelming for me to process but maybe it will be of use to you and others. From PaulCraigRoberts
http://www.5gfrequencyfreefairbanks.org/
… it’s too overwhelming for anyone.
Thanks for posting as I am acutely electro-sensitive to WIFI and cordless phone radiation.
Looks like BS science, everyone should be dosed with 5Gs every day for at least one year. Hopefully within an evolutionary short time we’d start growing antenna from our heads, thus eleminating the need for an intermediary devices like a smart phone or tablet. How many lives that would save, no need to fall off a cliff capturing a selfie, just look and the mind with it’s 5G atenna will capture that pic forever. Crossing the road, no need to step out in front of traffic. And it would save the environment, all those chemicals used to make disposable phones wouldn’t be needed, well, except for those needed to build the 5G network.
In a corporate world it matters not what 5G does to humans cause someone (you know who) somewhere (you know where) is gonna make a lotta moola. Place is overpopulated anyway, right?
Ok, quantity is not quality. And that horrendous list starts with a pretty baby – makes you think eh. And then, we have the weasel word, peer reviewed.
Let me give a topical example. If one looks at the mass of ‘Russia Bad’ articles published, we all would believe now that Russia is Real Bad.
Lets see what ‘peer reviewed’ actually means.
It simply means somebody somewhere has judged the paper as good enough for publication.
It does not mean that experiment was repeated and that it is qualitatively correct. It just means somebody published it. That is all. This is good to bear in mind on the Climate Change debate as well, where thousands of ‘studies and measurements and thousands of scientists’ are thrown at us, to make the issue come out the way that The Powers that Be want it to be presented. Many times a scientist listed did not even work on that specific piece of work, but got his/her/its name included for the next grant application process. The scientific system is broken. It works on propaganda, and on seeking grants. In the 5G or radio frequency world, there is so much propaganda now, that the noise is attenuating the signal and one must be careful how you approach these things and how you read.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/
In terms of 5G, no longitudinal health studies exist. None at all. But again on this ‘very scary list’ presented, it is headed as 5G. That is nonsense and quantity does not indicate quality. The 3G and 4G technologies are sufficiently different to not accept one of those in place of a 5G decent study.
In terms of 3G and 4G, the only properly constituted longitudinal health study that exists, is the one by John Bucher of National Toxicology Program (NTP) and Jonathan Samet an epidemiologist and dean of the Colorado School of Public Health. This was a 10 year long study where they blasted mice and rats with 1,000 times more frequencies (not in strength, but in duration) than anyone with a cell phone is able to do. From before birth, these rats and mice were blasted right through their lives till death with 10 minutes on, 10 minutes off 3G and 4G radio waves.
Here is something relatively uncomplicated and the links in there can be followed to the study itself. It has not been repeated. They found some possible tumors developing in male rats/mice, in their hearts and in their lungs. Somehow the females did not show this.
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2019/04/30/is_5g_wireless_dangerous_no_but_science_may_never_end_the_debate.html
Here is something relatively uncomplicated as well, a discussion of 5G followed by a discussion by these 2 scientists – top of the page – radio interview and discussion – titled The Future of 5G – the second part of that interview has the health issues.
https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/the-future-of-5g/
With the standard of 5G we find the scary, the political, the trade wars, the technology, and a mess of sheer propaganda. The concept and the technology is absurdly politicized. It is going the way of the climate debate. The 5G technology has kicked off for real the issue of who owns the internet, and who owns the airwaves. This is another reason for being very careful of how this thing is approached.
Finally, I use a quote that I’ve forgotten who said it first. Analysis is not Advocacy. Because I am not following the ‘quantity is quality’ crowd, and neither ‘the sky is falling’ crowd, and I am not one of those wanting to ‘save the world but they cannot save their own families’, does not mean that I am not absolutely skeptical – about almost everything and we can start with the history of humankind and go right through to 5G.
Bear in mind that I have no problem with all the many anecdotal testimonies of people that feel sensitive or affected to and by radio waves. I’m sure they do, and personally we are very careful. Analysis is not Advocacy and neither is a head in the sand Luddite approach the right one to take in my view. It is clear that on some level this species has decided to make their future technological.
This is my take on the 5G standard.
– 5G will be a short lived technology and will be replaced by other technologies in a relatively short period of time. I don’t base this on nothing, but on adoption rates for 3G/4G. 3G was a standard in 2001 already. The adoption was slow. At the end of 2012, 30% of possible subscribers only used 3G. This is now 2019 and we’ve been through 4G and the standard of 5G is appearing already. What makes you think that 5G will be a long-lived technology and something else will not leapfrog it in a relatively short period of time? People are carrying on as if we’re all going to be killed in one fell swoop? Does this not make you think that equal to the climate change debate, this 5G stuff is not being pumped up to further divide and conquer the discussion in the commons no matter whether it is good tech or bad tech?
– 5G will not easily be rolled out in rural areas, because it is too damn expensive. This is unless the governments force the vendors to roll out in rural areas as a quid pro quo to give them spectrum to use in the densely populated areas.
– If one is personally worried, what we’ve done is to walk around our area and figured out (remember this is short waves, so distance is your friend) .. where we could live with possible placement of a 5G tower in our neighborhood – how far away before we think about protective measures if necessary in future.
If you are more worried than that, get a measurement device and start measuring background and existent electro-magnetic levels even now, and keep good records. This will allow you to scream in future, with good records.
And then, (and I can see the knee jerking), I trust that everyone that is so concerned about all of this, are not using cell phones or anything like that. I trust that your computer in your home is cabled, and you are not using any wireless technology.
I don’t even hold my tablet in my hands for reading, because I think that is not good for me but I have no evidence – I just think so. So, 3G/4G is a very different technology than 5G. Because there are no existing studies on 5G, nobody has any evidence for what they are saying. Most of the negative publicity that I read, the folks could not even express the technology correctly. And now we get We Are Going To Be Microwaved. Just like me with my tablet, you have no evidence, you just think so. If anyone wants to kill us off, there are easier ways to do it than with slow cooking – and as you all know, low heat does not really cook stuff.
Those that have sensitivities should protect themselves for sure. Bear in mind that distance is your friend, and also, time of exposure is your friend, and also, rural areas will probably not get anything like 5G for a long period of time. There is now a whole industry developing .. 5G protective paint, 5G protective roofing and so on. I remind you of the previous ‘sky is falling’ methodologies .. the ebola scare for example and the ubiquitous ‘prepping’ movement where people bought masses of long life foods and did not even get to eat it. Go and take a look at how many of those we’ve had just in our own lifetimes.
Those that get credit for keeping humankind confused and scared have hit it on the sweet spot this time, with 5G, that is going to cook us.
So, in my book it is fine to ‘just think so’ and it is fine to look at the anecdotal evidence. But be sure, all of the anecdotal evidence is based on 3G/4G, and not 5G. I think we need to keep competing thoughts in our heads for a while longer – and that is difficult. Caitlin Johnstone wrote something very good about cognitive bias and selecting for cognitive ease over cognitive discomfort in ones own thinking process.
Don’t select for cognitive ease, not in the 5G issue, neither in the climate issue.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/07/23/the-just-world-fallacy-why-people-bash-assange-and-defend-power/
I’m in a very mild state of mind, watching deer snack on lawn grass, ignoring the visitors to the Mammoth Hot Springs Dinning Room and Lounge.
If they can all get along without fear or loathing maybe more powerful arrays of beings can as well? LOL.
I found much balance to agree with in your comment…..and must keep reading to find a commenter to argue with.
Or just give all that workout a rest today!
This is some raunchy humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYEKg1gNBc
Thanks teranam, I haven’t laughed so much in days.
‘Diversity and multiculturalism for Israel’, LOL, I like cynical humor.
If you put this on Twitter you would we banned for hate speech, that’s for sure.
Cheers, Rob
… Xylitol toothpaste and chewing gum …
Epic Xylitol Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_AX8onzWXY
Using Xylitol Effectively Pt. 1 | Xlear with Xylitol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhW4RfrTI2I
Fluoride Does Not Reduce Tooth Decay-But THIS Does!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApV8anfDvfI
… in Australia …
https://www.grantsofaustralia.com.au/collections/oral-care
(learned all of this today, some from my dentist … so I’m sharing)
Normally when you start to learn dental things from your dentist, its actually too late to do anything about it.
5G technology. The debate reminds me of those who point out that vaccines ,regardless of how pure or how well double blind studies ( never happens in the USA) are done with new vaccines on human populations, will kill a certain percentage of people who receive them. Boom ! dead or disabled. Granted it is a small percentage and a necessary sacrifice for the sake of so-called “herd immunity” ( another shibboleth of modern science), but if you happen to be one of the small percentage, well, too bad.
Laboratory controlled situations….like our ordinary reality…are rarefied and run by folks with bias and agendas which of course never, never affect the outcome of their experiments no matter how well paid they are by high tech companies, pharmaceuticals, government bureaucrats, etc.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa8bpk/5g-wireless-rekindles-fight-over-cellular-health-risks
“Of concern here are not just the potential effects of 5G-associated radiation, but what might result from the combined impact of 5G-radiation with other sources of non-ionizing radiation in our environment,” Phillips said. “Certainly, a more careful and thorough assessment of the risks to human and environmental health are warranted.”
Just saying….
I’ve not been able to discover whether long-term cohort studies of health trends in large populations have ever investigated the differences, if any, in health outcomes over the life-span between vaccinated, part-vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals. I think it might be revealing. Then, of course, one would need to get an honest account of ALL the adjuvants and preservatives added to vaccines. The recent discovery that one vaccine contained glyphosate, presumably as an adjuvant, was very interesting, as they say.
Could one of the tech people here please advise me about what exactly is the meter I would need to purchase in order to measure 5G fields?
… all concerns are prohibited by a US telecommunications law …
Claiming health issue Intervention in mobile phone tower rollout is prohibited by law …
because there are NO health problems whatsoever … and that’s that !
5G Health Concerns Raised By Pepeʻekeo Resident (May 2, 2019)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHSjMFogGlE
… some reading …
7.8.7Conclusions—public health
There is growing evidence that our society’s growing addiction to wireless technologies could bring a lurking health time bomb such as was the case historically with tobacco, lead, and asbestos. Much of the disproportionate reliance on wireless is driven by policies purported to enable competition and innovation, that, perversely, result in concentration of monopoly market power, promotion of technology for its own sake, and churn of planned obsolescence. Beneficial and vital uses of wireless may be crowded out of radio spectrum or drowned out in the unnecessary radio noise through a proliferation of applications of dubious value. It is time that the FCC reexamine the basis of its exposure guidelines, and the FDA and other public health agencies take seriously the health risks associated with electromagnetic radiation and require pre-market health testing and post-market health surveillance, as would be required for a biologically active drug, process, or procedure.
source:
http://electromagnetichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ReInventing-Wires-1-25-18.pdf
… and a traditional song to go out with …
Manaʻo Company – Welcome To My Island Home (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPpacIgnU2o
What is more likely is an extension of the survival of the fittest realm, just as it is ones choice to smoke knowing the declared health risks, if said risks become a known and are published, it is still a choice to use said destructive technology just as it is still a choice to smoke. It could just be gods way of thinning the heard through the mechanism of convenience.
Now the fact that health care profits have been privatized and health care losses have been socialized, this would simply be an extension of what soon will be the norm. so ergo, their is nothing to see here.
Choice? Individual choice when the solution is a social solution? The ( radioactive) rain falls on the just and unjust alike. And an organic celery carries just as much rain-sourced pollution as a non organic celery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGI8A6g-wrI
I think its speculative nonsense better left alone than beating the drums of trouble.
OK…here is a quote from techie talk about RF meters sold on Amazon: Attn: Amarynth and “just buy a meter suggestion” which is still a good suggestion because at least one can become somewhat “grounded” in their assessment of EMF threat.
The G in the new 5G cell stuff means “generation”. 3G was third generation, 4G was fourth generation and 5G is fifth generation. The best info I have been able to glean indicates the 5G cell phone stuff, with all the transmitters every few hundred feet and 20,000 low orbit satellites, will broadcast using frequencies between 6 GHz and 100 GHz. I have read that different carriers have purchased rights to different frequencies (frequency ranges?) in this range. I have read that there are technical difficulties with developing hardware that broadcast it this range, but I would expect that to be overcome in time. As far as I know there are NO meters that measure very far into this range. 10GHz is the highest I have seen personally,
3. “rf up to 10 ghz”: rf stands for Radio Frequency. 10 ghz means it can measure signals that vibrate as fast as 10 billion vibrations per second (10 GHz). I have an Acoustimeter AM-10 that claims to indicate the presence of signals up to 8 GHz. It is probable that these specs are accurate, but I have no idea whether anything is broadcasting in this range so I have no idea how test the claim without the equipment manufacturers use. I have heard people who should know say that there are no meters yet existing, available to us anyway, that measure up to 100 GHz.
Yes, the 3G, 4G, 5G is just different technologies. Software is in versions. This is in G – its a number that signifies a standard of technology so that everyone speaks the same language.
Searching for what you should measure?. I don’t want people to hate me. But if people do not know what they should measure, and I tell them, they’re gonna hate me. And I don’t want people to hate me. People want to be all upset about this. I say it is too early.
So, what are you interested in measuring. You are interested in measuring frequency and power.
So, frequency is expressed in Hertz and power is expressed in Watts.
So you can gauge the impact relatively now, vs after an installation. Once you have those measurements, what does it mean to the human body. And here is the rub … there are no longitudinal studies of the effect of 5G (in its different frequencies and powers) and the effect on the human body. And where was that human body and for how long and how far away?
Yes, Teranam13, one can measure 100 GHz.
OK, let’s talk about standard FM radio waves which is in the +- 100 MHz range … If you stand in front of a radio station’s transmitting antenna, that is transmitting 100,000 Watts of signal, you’re gonna fry. I’ve done a lot of satellite earth station work, and rule 1 is not to stand in front of the transmitter unless you feel like frying – this is a focused beam though but it is between 3GHz and 14GHz, i.e., same as out of the box 5G. Because the up signal is a focused beam, the down signal is omni directional, not focused beam, the end result is the transmitter will fry you, but the receiver will not. In 5G the transmitter is the 5G station, little mini ones, and the receiver is the cell phone or a modem. Attenuation, i.e., reduction of power to sustain the radio wave, happens according to the square of the distance, i.e., 2 feet away, you will experience 1 quarter of the power. 4 feet away, you will experience 1/16th of the power. This is true of all radio waves.
You are proving my point for me … you don’t know what to measure … and don’t hate me please don’t for saying that. People need to go and learn the basic physics principles of electromagnetic radiation i.e., frequency and wave theory and power. One learns that from textbooks, library, internet, talk to electrical engineers or physicists. Engineers will give you the practical. Physicists will give you the theoretical. And then you also need to figure out what it does to the human body .. the medical folks that have studied this will tell you that.
What we will measure at our house is Frequency and Signal Strength (Power). (And I live in the house with an electrical and electronics engineer with a few higher qualifications and once I was married to a nuclear engineer who still answers my questions if I have any.)
I did say that most of the anti stuff that I read have no clue. I mean that. Don’t hate me please. Please, I don’t want to be hated … but you all are calling this very very bad technology but you don’t know what it is. It is not difficult to get a meter that measures radio wave frequencies and power. However to do it properly and understand it, you need a calibrated receiver, an oscilloscope and a spectrum analyzer. We cannot afford all of that, so we will measure Frequency and Signal Strength and that will give a good enough base indication for before and after. There is also heat and how deep the heat penetrates the skin. I believe it is negligible.
This thing is being blown up out of all proportions and only a fraction understand the base physics. I don’t understand it well and my knowledge comes from medical use and asking a whole bunch of questions to those that do get the physics. Please do not hate me for telling you what it is. It is a balance of frequency and power before we can even know what we are talking about and how it affects the human body.
Again, analysis is not advocacy.
Just a comment or two more .. waves don’t really vibrate – they oscillate … this can be measured. But vibrate is a good word I guess. Distance from transmitter and length of time of ‘exposure’ is also critically important.
Hate you? Gosh no. I hope I don’t sound too polemically deranged when I comment on the American social scene which is insanely repressed, anxious and angry. Everyone is afraid to talk to one another. Lack of effective leadership will do that to a People. Sigh. Before diversity we had melting pot—now we have a food fight in a communal kitchen. No unity in this diversity.
Au Contraire, I really really thank you for your commentary and clarification. And I appreciate your information on processing of good foods as much as I enjoy Bro 93’s declamations of the hows and whys of Bitcoin/cryptocurrency.
Yes, this is a new amped up technology that will work its way out one way or another. Where I live on the far side of a park with 150 mobile home units ( typical low income pensioner hang outs) there is a very tall cell phone tower. Last night I was up late ( it is super hot ) and I heard a rumble, rumble of a heavy truck . It seemed close by but I figured that since it was night time, sound travels and is perceived differently. . But when I woke up and looked yonder to the East there was a huge cherry picker which was lifting who-knows-what onto this cell tower. They were working in the early AM to be able to rest before the heat rose I suppose. Forget asking anyone just what they are doing.
Another thing the tech guys were taking about is how the affordable meters pick up many sources and will reflect the 5Ghz oscillation from different sources depending on which is predominant. So differentiating what one is being “washed with” (frequency) and where it is coming from and what underlays it ( accumulated watt power) may be more difficult than what it seems especially if you are not an electrical engineer or have access to one with the correct technical equipment as you pointed out. My military Guru overseas was a communication engineer for Argentina’s broadcasting network during the Falklands war so I suppose he is my go-to knowledge person on this.
I enjoy your comments on the derangement. And thanks for not hating me. This is not easy stuff and I’m going against the herd here and to boot, I’m a product of a failed experimental foundational math teaching methodology – stupid stupid .. I suffer to today having to go back to learn some basic principle. But, if there is reincarnation, next time around I’ll know better and take all the STEM courses.
Something like this looks like a start to look at (not making a recommendation here ….)
https://www.enertech.net/html/EMDEXLiteLFSpecs.html
And here is a video that looked fair to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYx2mPNfCQU
I would go and take a look at the lowest level of field type meters .. not the Amazon stuff … If your measure today is x and tomorrow it redlines, of course something has changed. This should be enough no? Background radiation, of course it is always there. We’re dealing here with a force of nature that man is trying to tame so we can use it. And with a go-to person, you’re golden.
This is a nice basic on the basics: https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry_Textbook_Maps/Supplemental_Modules_(Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry)/Spectroscopy/Fundamentals_of_Spectroscopy/Electromagnetic_Radiation
Heat? surprisingly here in the tropics we are fairly comfortable – the rain pattern has kicked in and the afternoon tropical showers keeps us and our world nice and cool. Its only 28C here today – whereas usually we kick up to 38C late afternoons in summer if we don’t get the regular tropical shower.
I’ll post a study tomorrow that shows the danger is much higher from actually using a cell phone which has a maximum power of say 3 Watts, than from the towers and their signals. Also note, a cell phone has its transmitter on the back … so I want to go and check how much wattage on the back where it transmits, and how much on the front of it. That little bit may make a huge difference.
Also, I’ll comment on Paul’s comment of a ‘lurking health time bomb’ .. and I got my husband interested, so, he is putting some pro info together basically about how the electricity works on the cell tower itself. It is quite a difference from what people say because signals not in use actually get closed down … to use less power. Its intelligent stuff.
Gotto go pick up some work now.
5G is being rolled out and we humans have to buy our own meters to make sure we are safe? Lovely. Reminds me of back in the day, before I was born, you could go in to a shoe shop and get your feet X-rayed, just to make sure they were your feet, I guess. No. We find out later, much later, after lots of sickness, that, hmm, xrays are not that great unless used in a controlled, very controlled situation with lots of lead in the walls. Here’s how corporations work, Chinese or otherwise. They have insurance, if some people get sick, you get payed off, end of story, regardless of how bad the ‘technology’ is. Nothing, even human suffering, maiming and death stops the mammon flow. And when governments say ‘don’t worry, this won’t hurt you’ oy vey, run hard, run fast.
https://southfront.org/documentary-on-mh17-reveals-5-year-long-string-of-lies/
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=192095
This lady is illiterate but her face shines with the love of God
There are those who might say she is ‘brainwashed’ but I say she is Love
Fairly depressing interview of Seymor Hersh but it is hard to argue with his assessments; hersh has had pluses and minuses over the years but seems he is close to the mark here:
https://www.salon.com/2019/07/23/investigative-reporter-seymour-hersh-the-world-is-run-by-ignoramuses-wackos-and-psychotics/
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The complication, of course, is the orange man, the president. We’ve never quite had a situation like this. There were a lot of things wrong with Hillary [Clinton], but there is no question that the situation and the country would be saner with her as president. But when you have a president like Donald Trump who is obsessed with being in the news, something is amiss.
I have some friends on the inside who know more than I do about most of these things regarding Trump and this administration. With Trump and these escalations with Iran I was getting nervous. I asked some of my contacts, “What’s going on?” They told me, “It is a Kabuki dance.” Trump felt like he wasn’t getting enough attention. He’s going to do something to North Korea and he backs off. He’s going to do something in Venezuela and he backs off. You name it. It is part of a pattern.
My comment: I cannot go that far as it being better with hillary, maybe just not worse, but we would have had a few more wars. This is a miss IMHo by hersh. (BTW-just heard FWIW that hillary’s father was a Chicago mob boss back in the day-maybe if accurate, that is where she learned her “gamesmanship.”)
“There were a lot of things wrong with Hillary [Clinton], but there is no question that the situation and the country would be saner with her as president.”
Really? One is a sociopathic grifter and the other a psychopathic serial killer. Both obviously bad but I’d go with the sociopath rather than be radioactive dust.
Clinton is very pure Evil. Her lunatic peddling of the phony ‘Russian interference’ meme, to please her very good and generous Ukronazi allies, is one of the most deranged and dangerous conspiracies ever put into action. We still have a fair chance of ending up ‘radioactive dust’ thanks to this vile monster.
Ha!
Seems Epstein somehow survived becoming another case of Arkanside.
People don’t usually scream when trying to suicide.
The more you know!
With Hilarious Clinton as president, we would now as few survivors in caves have had one if not two anniversaries of mushroom clouds, in the meantime chewing on whatever is alive yet.
Clinton is evil, obsessed, psychopatic and bloodthirsty. She could be the BFF of Madeleine Albright, if she not is already. I still remember the panic in the eyes of Joseph Dunford, Pentagon Chief of staff, when confronted with a Senate hearing question of implying a no-fly zone over Syria (read: exclusive bombing zone), a dearly wish of Clinton.
That woman should be in a straight jacket. She’s a danger to mankind.
Cheers, Rob
Taras
You said…”There were a lot of things wrong with Hillary [Clinton], but there is no question that the situation and the country would be saner with her as president”
You have got to be joking…as bad as the baffoon POTUS MIGA [Make Israel Great Again] is, Hitlery would have been tenfold more dangerous. I’ll wager much of the world would have gone up in smoke already if this creature had been successful.
The very first item on her agenda would have been a full-scale war with Iran…OK, OK, granted we will probably end up in the same place anyway with the Orange Crested Cockatoo holding the reins…I guess the real difference is really only the timeframe…the finale could well be the same…ie most of the northern hemisphere looking like a burned crisp.
Probably the only conclusion we can draw from this sad farce, and these two ending up contesting the Presidency is just how totally dysfunctional the US political system really is. This one fact alone makes a very strong case that the countries condition is irreparable and terminal.
Apart from Saunders, who in hindsight wasn’t a candidate at all but rather a sacrificial lamb, the rest of the bunch were largely a glorified freak-show. The remainder from both sides of the aisle were basically all warmongers if not pathetic panderers to the MIC. Even Carson the eminent surgeon wanted to increase the size of the military…go figure! Rand Paul was the only sane and genuinely anti-war candidate on the dais. Those two qualities were the very reason he never stood a snowball’s chance in hell of ever being successful.
WAKE UP Murica, you are wasting your time pining for a Florence Nightingale or a Superman to miraculously materialize as POTUS and to save you from???… well actually from yourselves. It ain’t gunna happen. And don’t bother to contemplate Trump being displaced either, because Pence would be multitudes worse too.
Could anything be more truly terrifying than visualizing Pence, Bolton, and Pompeo forming the US war council?
Cheers
Col
And Abrams….he seems also to be a bit quiet at the moment…..something is going on. A coup to remove Trump so they can attack Iran???
Israel always was great, Col. Watch out or the ‘antisemitism’ police will be after you.
Mulga
LOL…don’t sweat the small stuff!
I am old and in poor health, not to mention small fry as well.
If they went after me they would be very busy and in no time at all their jails would be overflowing. I owe it to myself and to my grandchildren to call out the absolute nonsense and the lie that is so much of Western behavior and its narrative.
Kindest regards from across the ditch
Col
Don’t worry Col-they’ll just confiscate a kidney and a slice of liver for your crime. Believe me, it’s no great deal.
Col:
I think some confusion is evident, prob because I did not post clearly.
The statement about hillery about sanity comes form hersh article. not from me. My comment is that I do not agree and that hersh misses on this.
This is important: please check the excerpt about hillery from the linked article and then read my comment labeled “my comment.”
Taras
I owe you an apology…I didn’t read the post properly and took the comment out of context.
I am absolutely with you…I too have the utmost respect for Hersh.
Good men, of course, can still be wrong and in this case, re his comment on Clinton, I believe he is. Having said that it amazes me that Hersh has survived this far in his career and has not been murdered. His honesty and his bravery much like Pilger cannot be underestimated.
It is a sad fact indeed that the world has so few journalists of this calibre.
Cheers and best regards from the south seas
Col
#Clinton body count is the third most popular trending on Twitter..
Admire your courage and sentiments Col.
Cheers from a little further across the ditch.
Hawkesmere
What a fascinating and dynamic phenomenon the English language is.
Knowing full well exactly what the word ‘Arkancide’ means and just for a lark I googled it…low and behold a whole spring of links popped up immediately. I got the spelling wrong which interestingly was pointed out by my laptop spell check.
The very first link was Urban Dictionary with the below quoted verbatim as an explanation…
“An unfortunate occurrence that involves the ‘accidental’ death of someone who has crossed or has incriminating evidence concerning Hillary and/or Bill Clinton e.g. pregnant woman who had affair with Bill Clinton found dead with gunshot wound to the back of her head; man who had affair with Hillary found dead in park with no dirt on soles of shoes.”
With this in mind, I would say Arkancide is pretty damn close to being an official part of the English language….if not then as near as damn is to swearing anyway.
Cheers
Col
Yep!
Over the target.
Why is this not commented on in the fake stream media?
Can’t ruffle the puppet masters or there’ll be mass slipping on banana peels.
RT is having a regular hoot pushing it.
Right on! Agreed! Can I respectfully suggest that if you are quoting from an article that you put said extracts within quotation marks so as to indicate it is the author speaking and not you? Not everyone has time to read everything.
Thanks.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/democrats-mueller.jpg
I think I can manage to spell Schadenfreude; what an absolute train wreck. Unfortunately, trump’s gloating will be ever present thru 2020 elections.
Jeez, dimos, get a plan, forget his stupid tweets.
Cell Towers in Public Areas: Be Aware, Protect Yourself, Nobody Else Will !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wNECzFJcAc
Neil is using an HF59B HF analyser …
https://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/en/measurement/high-frequency/meters/338/hf59b
( “Our first class HF-device” )
… cheaper meters …
http://www.ebaystores.com/Healthy-Joyful-Sustainable-Living/EMF-and-RF-Microwave-Meters-/_i.html?_fsub=3728844016&_sid=118236096&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
( email Neil for a discount before buying )
EMF SAFETY ZONE …
https://emf-protection.us/
… read the 5G information at the following link …
https://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/en/5g/frequencies-and-meters/
( I am not giving any advice … only answering some Cafe questions )
Thanks for these invaluable links, Paul. Im not even through the comments on the first video, yet, but I think the devices he mentions are necessary first of all, in order to be able to read the hot spots in the house. I’ve children and this is my main concern; to start shielding them from the EMR. They, like most kids nowadays, are ‘iDevice addicted’…
Good info…thanks Paul. I am forwarding these on.
My Yorkie Poo pups that were conceived and born under #Oakleycelltower.
They display twitching. At first I thought it was normal because I don’t breed dogs but it obviously is not normal and is not dreaming because they can’t get to that state because they keep jerking themselves awake. I did solve the problem by placing a graded cover over them which acted as a Faraday cage in which they stopped twitching immediately. I wish I would have realized the remedy sooner than two weeks.
This is just the beginning, see the rest of my videos for more as they get older.
This is a direct result of the non-thermal non ionizing radiation made up of electromagnetic fields radio frequencies and microwaves. We are being cooked from the inside out.
The FCC guidelines you not protect this from the non-thermal effects, the FCC is avoiding the conversation. Ajit Pai is an idiot.
They are making Americans weaker and sick, thereby making America weaker and they will not be number one for much longer if this continues considering it, EMF RFR, likes to cause neurological damage. brain balls breasts BBB blood brain barrier.
This is my unintended animal experiment at Oakley cell tower where 15 people have died in the past 3 years. Tower was erected in 2010. This video was taken at the beginning of January 2019 puppies born December 17th 2018 one puppy was born deformed the intestines were located on the outside of the skin the puppy was born alive but I had to euthanize it. Two puppies were born dead three survived. Six puppies total.
2 weeks cell tower twitching Yorkie poo pups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE6LlrALPdw
… more …
Born under #Oakleycelltower
Exposure in the womb and outside these little puppies are affected by EMF microwaves from Wireless technology. Unusually violent do you see the hateful expression on that one pup’s face? The one that is swatting with her paw. Intent is strong.
First intense fight 3 wks Yorkie poo puppies …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlDXe7z76UY
Sounds simillar to the plight of the common English house sparrows that used to nest in cell towers but have now disappeared, as in, don’t exist anymore. Anyone who takes the ‘lets wait and see’ approch to cell tower radiation whatever the G, are only fooling themselves.
Ever see all the towers on the top of tall building? Imagine living in a suite below those. So many people getting sick for a few scheckles. Outright greed.
Okay, So what are Xi and Huawei really up to in your opinions?
All larger forces are evil and The Little Guy must just wring his hands in frustration and dread, and head for the hills, “the sticks” to survive the horrors of urbanization?
Caution is the better part of valor, and that’s why I am slow to embrace such debilitating discouragment……….
It is a 100% clear danger of a psychologically crippling nature that offers little prospect of any happy and healthy successful “sustainable” resolution….that I can see.
… Bro, you ask the same question I have asked, and included every country also …
“Okay, So what are Xi and Huawei really up to in your opinions?”
I do not know.
There is no caution and we cannot turn this technology off.
This technology is mandated by law and cannot be stopped, so even if there is an answer it would not change anything … but we can acknowledge the problems … the elite allow us this much.
Watch the professional lecture posted just below and observe the scientific findings.
So, yes … what are the elite up to ?
I’m sure the elite is not up to slowly frying everyone on the planet. If they want to do that, there are easier ways.
Where I live, people struggle to afford cell phones, and truly, smart meters or any smart technology is way down the line so, to look at where I live, which is quite representative of large swathes of the world, this smart technology is quite a ways off and I feel as if I’m living in 2 worlds. Like I said, 5G is most probably a short lived technology and most people around me at least, will never afford it.
Yes, one can turn it off by limiting to what you must have, and not use smart appliances and checking the distance from any tower very carefully and by measuring the before and after and by taking very simple protective measures, like not holding a max 3 Watts cellphone to your head for hours. But we know that already.
Here is a rant by James Corbett. He is not talking possible health effects, but focuses more on the ‘smart’ world. There is a lot that I disagree with, but nevertheless, he is a good researcher and getting better as he goes and his voice is welcome in the conversation. He explains quite clearly why he does not focus on health effects but his depiction of the smart world is quite chilling. I can tell you now I am not going there, into the smart world, but certain technologies I will adopt. Right at the moment I’m looking at a robot floor sweeper and mopper which will save me a lot of time – these little machines work on Bluetooth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbvL0uZkrY
What is Xi up to? Well, what we’ve learned in terms of analysis here at The Saker, is that one first assumes rational actors with any analysis. And then, you point out where there is irrationality. But the point of departure is a rational one. So rationally, Xi does not want to fry the world and how do we know that? Because he has been acting rationally and consistently. There is no empire building and the influence sought by China, is over their own sphere with a full stake in commerce. This has been true in word and deed. It is so that the values are different from the Western values and from what I’ve seen in patiently reading the Chinese English news sources for about 3 years now, is that they do what they say, and they say what they do. And then, they keep a lot of stuff close to their chests. But Xi is not intending to fry the world or the Chinese, or the countries around China in their sphere of influence.
Again analysis is not advocacy and I’m still researching, understanding the technology more thoroughly and ignoring much of the hype. We are not helpless against a total onslaught of somebody that wants to slow fry us all.
Yes, there was the smoking scam and the scam around lead paint and the scam around asbestos and all of those. But, at the end of the day, we found those, and changed those. Now we are more aware, not? And we are all researching this 5G thing to figure out how to protect ourselves from any negative results. This is the difference between the smoking scam and the lead paint scam and the asbestos and so on … this time we are awake and can use rational process to figure it out.
As rational people we have to ask why 5G, even the name, is being rubbished in the West, almost occulted, but not in the East (and I’m not talking about China alone).
amarynth … you wrote … “limiting to what you must have, and not use smart appliances and checking the distance from any tower very carefully and by measuring the before and after and by taking very simple protective measures, like not holding a max 3 Watts cellphone to your head for hours.” …
you mix turning off with limiting. Limiting use is not turning “off” the transmitted microwave radiation from cell towers which are “on” … active 24/7.
The word “fry” you use is emotive language … not appropriate here because the radiation effects are subtle and are not visible until tumors and cancer result and this is not frying … it is the result of mutated DNA.
It is beyond doubt there is a “cause and effect” cancer increase directly related to mobile phone radiation from cell towers. This may be acceptable for politicians and lawmakers, but it is not acceptable for me.
The lecture by Dr Devra Davis delivers scientific facts from observations and measurements and is not emotive. I understand people’s fear and anxiety toward the situation and wanting to “make believe” everything is okay. For about ten percent of the electro-sensitive population at present, everything is not okay and turning “off” for them means radiation shielding and/or relocating.
This ten percent should be the wake-up call.
Paul, I find the word ‘fry’ absolutely appropriate – if we are in a discussion and not in an evangelizing mode. The word ‘scrambled’ is also quite fine for a non-technical discussion. And it would be fairly correct as the wave form for microwaves is similar to that of a cell phone or a tablet etc. If I remember correctly, you brought the microwave analogy into the discussion, by saying .. Turn off the microwave .. in the previous Cafe.
It is not beyond a doubt that cause and effect exists on a DNA level. But, it could, and I am open to this line of thinking. But we also know that even a rock emits electromagnetic signal. So, if humankind wants to take that very natural force, and make it work for us, I don’t complain but I get excited, even knowing that there are more questions than answers. I also do not take all the studies without a large dose of salt. At the minimum, we should know who pays for what before we accept anything.
Debra Davis delivers health cautions, and what to do in policy, and education for health and engineering workers, and then further studies. Nothing wrong with that. There is way too little engineering in this discussion here on what towers do. You are of an an engineering background if I’m not mistaken .. so, you should understand the issue of distance. You should also understand that cell towers do not work on an always on, high power mode. Like Davis says, the engineering is intelligent and power gets reduced if there is no activity. She even has a nice graphic of that early on in her lecture. She limits or mitigates.
She also recommends that there should be rules and regulations about where towers can be sited. I agree – I don’t want to live underneath one of those. Davis also delivers studies mainly focused on instruments .. phones, tablets etc., and from her models it is real clear that what they have studied so far, is when the instruments are carried on the body. We all know to limit exposure and to not carry those on our bodies. This is simple mitigation. If there are braindead folks that give these things to their babies, then they should probably be educated and Davis tries to do that. I’ve seen parents give their phones to baby to play with, and I’ve just shuddered quietly. (That is usually when we have conversation about clean food which really scrambles my brains but, evangelism at this level is simply uncalled for). I don’t think the whole level of insanity in our population is bound to wireless technologies. It is bound more to a braindead and non-questioning population I would reason as a start.
All I am really saying is one has to look at the engineering, mitigate, i.e., look after oneself because of the many cautions that exist. If you want to take this on as your issue, what is the problem? Just understand that everyone is not an evangelist on this level.
For me it is different. It is intelligent and amazing technology that may and will do harm if used incorrectly. My interest is from that perspective. The technology itself is neutral – I don’t have a passion to prove that it is bad. I think it is amazing, but take cognizance of the serious questions and study those without being unduly influenced to absolutely find something that is confirmation bias.
Health can be dealt with just like Davis says, i.e., firstly get the money and do the studies and of course re-engineer. And be aware, before the first longitudinal study is over, the technology will have changed – Davis mentions that – the playing field is changing rapidly. I’ve mentioned that more than once.
Secondly, by personal mitigation and careful deployment and use and understanding the forces that we are dealing with.
To my mind Davis is doing exactly what a public health person should do – identify a threat, and go to work to mitigate it. Studies of course should include epidemiology, specifically gmo food and food laden with toxins. That really scrambles cellular structure and we know that and can prove that. Has anyone that has done any study and announce confidently that brains are affected, looked at what those people eat? To say this in another fairly horrible way, I can make a child sluggish with only a partial functioning brain simply with food – how about another sprinkle of nicely cheesy flavored MSG on that pizza made with gmo’d flour and laboratory manufactured cheese and tomatoes dripping with monsanto poisons and shined up with wax to give it longer shelf life? Davis says studies are very complex and not easy and she is absolutely correct.
Finally, I understand that people with electro-sensitivities want everything turned off. I don’t because I know the technology will evolve and better safety standards will be developed. This is not make-believe but is an accurate statement supported by past technical development. There is too large a technological development, even a revolutionary technological development happening now, for us to take it, that what we have now is what we’re going to get for ever.
There is no ‘for-ever’ in technology. While it is being engineered and built, the further enhancements are on the planning boards and even in the test labs.
I’ve even before mentioned what I think is going to replace the wireless technologies and that is a whole new world and we’re already taking small steps into the quantum field with nary a wire in sight.
For those that are sensitive, there are folks with serious peanut allergies and will die if they eat anything with peanuts. We don’t react as a world by banning all peanuts. These folks mitigate, by not eating that. There are folks that die on the spot from a bee or insect sting. We don’t react as a world by killing all bees – we react by mitigating, and those people carry an epipen. I myself have some food allergies, and I mitigate – I don’t expect the world to just ‘turn off’ those foods. And that is probably the difference in what I call proselytizing and a pragmatic approach.
But I believe we should continue our own protection as if we are all sensitive to electromagnetism. I don’t believe the 10 percent should be a wakeup call. Again in the lecture that you recommend, Davis states clearly with a pic of her own grandchildren that different people absorb these energies differently. We can also say clearly because we can learn it from the nuclear industry, that exposure is different dependent on the length of time (besides the power levels).
We are different.
This is all I am hoping for – that we are pragmatic in our assessment of the new technologies, that if our universe calls on us to re-educate, that we do that, and that we do the mitigation where and when necessary with full knowledge and understanding. And it is probably too much to hope for that we not use this issue to polarize as polarization in the public discussion sphere is clearly the game of the day. Let’s not do that.
amarynth … to clarify what I said in a previous Cafe …
Microwave ovens are self contained devices which are fully under our control … we turn them off and on.
For heating food we might use a MW oven for about 10 minutes per day.
Furthermore we can choose to own a microwave oven, or not to.
Most things in life offer us a choice, and in most things we have an independence or some way out, but with cell towers in close proximity to where people live, work, school, sport, shop and sleep, these unfortunate people are continuously immersed in a pulsating fog of something multiple cell towers radiations. The towers operate at a set level … it is the mobile phone or the device which powers up and down. When we speak into a mobile phone power is at peak level, when listening the phone powers down … and it is this variable pulsating activity which is knocking our cells and our DNA around … and Dr Devra Davis makes this very point by hammering and tapping the podium in a haphazard manner to explain the problem.
… timed video …
https://youtu.be/BwyDCHf5iCY?t=577
(watch for at least the next five minutes)
… DNA damage … timed video …
https://youtu.be/BwyDCHf5iCY?t=1641
I set out with this 5G research to find out things for myself. And I did. And also to perhaps give people some tools and abilities so that they do not feel helpless. Really, with these answers, I know what I need to know and I’m moving on from 5G to something else.
Paul, the clips — this is what is known as cherry picking research. I don’t blame Davis for that as this is part of her job of raising interest and funds.
There are equally as many studies that show no effect. The one that I quoted before, a 10 year long study with rats and mice, showed that the male rats after extended exposure had a slight increase in tumor, the females had no effect. Long … over 10 years and that is probably 1000’s of mouse years.
There is no profit to be had in using one 3 week study to prove a point. And these studies are not reliable – Take a look at Aloe Vera, just to broaden the scope. “Aloe vera whole leaf extract showed clear evidence of carcinogenic activity in rats, and was classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as a possible human carcinogen (Group 2B) ” Aloe Vera of course has been used for thousands of years and is a well understood ayurvedic remedy.
There are very few studies done from a pure perspective and not a profit motive. One has to look at these with grains of salt.
And on the issue of waves that are ‘fluctuating madly … high amplitude, low amplitude, fluctuating for no discernible reason – I don´t see the technical explanation for that in the video that we are discussing – and there is one.
I tried to calculate this but it became too difficult – It applies to towers, antennas and transmitters and these are self-adjusting. It gets truly technical because there are many variables .. strength, type of signal, shape, area covered, signal attenuation … and so on. You know that we’ve said that these transmitters self-adjust the level of power and if a signal is not in use, it reduces the power, because it does not want to sit there and use power that is not necessary. It may combine signal, it may jump signal and things like that, once it is in use. It is there, and it probes (and this is the problem that you are stating – you don’t want it there at all). So, power gets increased once it is used or finds a cellphone that is looking for it. The cell phone itself does a similar thing. That is why the signal strengthens (actually the power behind it) and diminishes. Not because it wants to break DNA.
But overall I am done with this now and you can have the last word.
I’ve done enough to satisfy myself that 1)no, they are not killing us, 2)there are many questions still to be answered and for that one has to study the technology itself, 3)this is a political issue, 4)the fact that the other emerging technologies do not receive a fraction of the attention that wireless communication is receiving is meaningful, 5)this is an economic issue, 6)the health aspects need much more attention, 7)personally we know what to do in terms of amelioration and self-protection, 8)this is not going to bankrupt us, 9)We’ve been working with wireless technologies for radios for many years, probably over 100 years with different signal length and power (strength) – short wave, medium wave, FM etc etc, 10)the supposed ‘spectrum’ is a method of dividing near space into bands in order to sell it. It is simply a measure and is relatively meaningless for real measurement. For that, you need to hit the physics books or buy a meter. 11) don’t put cell phones into bee hives, 12)the way a cell phone works is not necessarily the way that a tower antenna or transmitter works – so in making comparisons, compare apples with apples, 13) the major problem is the devices, phones, tablets etc.
That all is enough for me, and I can now calculate reasonably accurately, after a few more tries at the calculus and the physics math, exactly distance from a tower, to a cellphone what the probable effect is, in my house. But this is complex mathematical expressions and I’d rather buy a meter or install the app on my phone.
Yes, there is an app for that, but you have to know the basics first.
Again, we are not helpless.
> “Director Mueller, can you state with confidence that the Steele dossier was not part of Russia’s disinformation campaign?”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/24/gaetz-mueller-steele-dossier/
OH SHI-
USA-2019 is no different from Ukraine-2014
Putin’s Agents are fighting Putin’s Agents to save America while Putin’s Agents discuss it on TV channels most probably indirectly owned by Putin and his agents.
Meow-meowller delivers!
If you follow the ravings of the ‘Infinite Russiagate’ lunatics that infest Merkin public life, you would believe that ‘The Russians’ attempted to sabotage Clinton, by exposing the DNC’s corruption in cheating Sanders of his victory in the primaries, and that they also attempted to sabotage Trump by concocting the Steele Dossier. The plainly more reasonable explanation, that Steele made it all up, or got the dirt from the Ukronazis, who were VERY close allies and benefactors of the Clintons, is not even considered.
One aspect of the Steele Dossier that defies belief is the proposition, repeated by Mueller and other fascists like Clapper and Brennan, that Putin PERSONALLY ordered this vile attack on the USA’s pristine and sacred democracy. They apparently have a ‘source’ inside Putin’s inner circle that says so.
Of course, if they did have such a mole, they would NEVER admit that, lest their asset’s cover be blown. The mere fact that it was exposed means that it is probably bulldust. Of course they might just be trying to make the Russians think so, and go all paranoid, but who really thinks that Putin et al are so gullible? But, perhaps there is such a mole, perhaps it is even Putin himself, but he likes the Merkins to know what Russian Government elites are thinking, so that the Merkins might make better informed decisions, and there is less chance of dangerous miscalculation.
But that would suppose that ruling Merkin elites are rational and guided by the facts, when plainly they exist in a magical reality that they ‘create’ as Karl Rove asserted in a case of dumb existential insolence that must have had foreign leaders chuckling with mirth. The thought of Rove, Bush, Trump, Clapper or Brennan as all-powerful demiurges, ‘creating reality’ perhaps explains really existing US politics, but outside that gelded circus it seems merely hilarious and frightening in equal measure.
Here is a professional lecture …
there is no stupid background music … just a stream of scientific observations …
“The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation” — Dr Devra Davis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwyDCHf5iCY
Dr Devra Davis is an internationally recognised expert on electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones and other wireless transmitting devices. She is currently the Visiting Professor of Medicine at the Hebrew University Hadassah Medical School, and Visiting Professor of Medicine at Ondokuz Mayis University, Turkey. Dr Davis was Founding Director of the Center for Environmental Oncology at The University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute — the first institute of its kind in the world, to examine the environmental factors that contribute to the majority of cases of cancer.
One element in the Consciousness E-Q-uation that might be considered both here….and…. over on the How to Kill 10 Million Afghans Thread ……….. is the quite distinct possibility that Orange Man might be trolling……….just about everybody…………. and may yet JOIN OBOR…. instead of going down in flames vainly attempting to deny a development of the planet that Alexander Hamilton, Abraham Lincoln, FDR and JFK would support…………and is actually…..the only way out of Imperial Madness and WW III………for both America and the UK!
I’m optimistic!
I just ate breakfast buffet alone next to a table of 6 over-fed Deplorables discussing Trump and Mueller and heard enough of the conversation to hear sober and serious thoughts (would you hear this in the 80s, 90’s ………2015? NO! Almost never!) ………….and learned from their amiable conversation with the server that she is from Romania and that their attitudes toward that part of the world are friendly, including positive snippets about Russia and Putin after the Roumanian lass was away attending to other tables…….
Last night I enjoyed reading Twitter threads courtesy of Red-Pilled Sister, especially THIS one regarding Maggie Halberman of the New York Times………….A Presstitute in the Molesta Brothers stable of Branded Female Whores For Empire (there are equal numbers of male slaves) (Epstein, NXIVM “Ya got the picture???”……Yes, we see! Vrooom, vrooom……Leader of the Pack!” ):
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1153021405476401153
Ah, let me paste a few them Deplorable Tweets………. for y’all, so you can enjoy those deplorable to Empire treats:
Maggie Haberman (in a pathetic attempt to neutralize the Storm of Tweets that ensues…….from her attempt to paint “The Awakening” as “violence-prone”.
Verified account
@maggieNYT
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He Wasn’t Seeking to Kill a Mob Boss. He Was Trying to Help Trump, His Lawyer Says. – The New York Times
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Maggie, still on the train I see. Well guess what, you had your chance. Nothing can stop the #GreatAwakening… because it ALREADY HAPPENED!Joe M added,
Joe M
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Maggie. Get off the train. You will not get another chance. #PanicInDC #Qanon
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#FakeNewsMedia #EnemyOfThePeople #ThesePeopleAreSick #TickTock #wehaveitall #theyneverthoughtshewouldlose #MilitaryTribunals #JusticeisComing #QSentMe #exposethemAll #DJTBESTPRESIDENTEVER #DeclassifyFISA #WWG1WGA #doitQ #draintheswamp
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Free Thinker 🖤 #JusticeForJunior
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Don’t forget this gem
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Q sent me!
Every single ‘dirty’ tactic being deployed to stop the growth of this movement.
Ask yourself a very simple Q – why?
Why are the biggest media co’s in the world…….
Q
@POTUS
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Funny Q a simple letter
And this scares them so
Thank you letter Q
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Lol
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Thanks for playing, Maggie.
🤣🤣🤣
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Truth=Freedom ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
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BOOM 💥 Q’d again!
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Thanks for the list!
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Free Thinker 🖤 #JusticeForJunior
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Don’t forget #TickTock
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HEY MAGPIE !
Q SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF THE TRAIN !
Your PROPAGANDA isn’t working anymore!
Q THE PATRIOTS
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Mockingbird Maggie is as FAKE as news gets. DECLAS is coming!!
WE, THE PEOPLE, are the news, now!
#WWG1WGA
#QAnon
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marianna seeks truth ♨️
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Maggie has a lot of explaining to do…
Mags.. where did all that money come from?
put in your kids names..???
Maggie..
Q. gave you an out ..
You FU**ED UP.
Big Big Mistake.♨️♨️♨️♨️
KARMA. 〰➰〰
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Sounds like WE are going to order more popcorn!!! Enjoying the show. WWG1WGA. Q. Patriots
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Maggie, Maggie haven’t you learned? It blows up in the fake news media’s face again. Enemy of the People..👇
“He first discovered the conspiracy theory, Mr. Gottlieb said, in the weeks after Trump was elected.”
Q didn’t show up until 10/28/17….
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Yes @AliWatkins wrote these horribly written joke of an article poorly sourced. Look who she was friends with? Buddies with Diane Feinstein 👀
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FEINSTEIN=EVIL TRAITOR
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Maggie, you realize the article is full of errors, right?
Do any of you proof-read?
Fact check?
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*sigh*
You will regret not getting off the train.
You had the chance, remember that.
You HAD the chance to be free.
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Poor @maggieNYT doesn’t seem to have read #pedo @johnpodesta wiki leaks emails.. she has a big fat sealed indictment coming her way soon.. FOR SURE.. allthat @PodestaGroup money she took.. check her children’s #trustfunds #jailbird #journalistskidsdonthavethatkindofmoney
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#Steyer likes #WalnutSauce
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I hear #Obama prefers #hotdogs and #pingpong
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Gonna stay until the bitter end aren’t you Maggie? We tried to help you get off the train. Sigh.
#WWG1GWA
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Maybe she thinks that her Wing Coven…er “Space” will somehow protect her. WRONG MOVE MAGS!!
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Yes Maggie you are featured in the expose of The Wing. We 👀you.
https://doitq.news/the-wing-coven/
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Sometimes getting Q’ed is a good thing. Sometimes it’s not…
#FakeNews
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K E K !
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Lmao. Classic. I gotta @Gifitize that. 😂
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etc, etc. Bro back:
When you encounter the kind of rebellious (to Empire “News Authority”) attitude amongst such deplorables that fearlessly and sarcastically adopt a “handle” such as……”Russian Bot” ….(more than a few did!) …….you have a disobedient American spirit that just might be something you could work with more promisingly than with Maggie and her owners.
Ya think??
” … over on the How to Kill 10 Million Afghans Thread ……….. is the quite distinct possibility that Orange Man might be trolling……….just about everybody.”
Sure Bro. I have it on good authority (of course NOT) that the folks over in Afghanistan are rolling around laughing with all this killing 10 Million Afghans trollery. So, when you speak to your fellows again, perhaps let them know that it would be good practice to keep this kind of trollery to the US of A. Killing a bunch of US of A people will make good trollery no? and perhaps the rest of us can have a chance to laugh at the trollery. But of course, that won’t happen. This stuff is not trollery Bro, and if it is, it is still demented.
Alex Jones is pushing to get people fighting one another in tandem with the idiot Congressional leftists who blow off potential allies as white racists. The American people white, black and sane all know that this is the wrong way to go and are still patiently waiting for issues and leaders to arise who can unite the working people around mutual interests ( our kids, our schools, our health, our communities).
He does mostly emotional rants and appeals. He does have interesting guests , however, who grit their teeth and put up with his constant interruptions.
He needs to come out and support Ilhan Omar’s right to criticize Israel, however, for him to lay claim to his holier than thou defender of the Constitution pose. But then he is so busy raising money as the last defender of Western Christendom to be able to see through his own self generated haze. Currently he is defaming Ilhan as coming from an Arab slaver tribe in Somalia. Who is the racist? You are the racist!
https://theduran.com/why-alex-jones-is-a-fake-anti-globalist/
Jonah and the whale. A favorite story of children throughout the years, and a great fish tale, maybe the greatest. I, personally, never read it until adulthood, having been deprived of the classical Western upbringing—but was enthralled. As it happened, in junior high school, while browsing in the campus library, I picked-up a copy of “Reader’s Digest”, half-heartedly curious as to why this magazine was such a popular coffee table decoration in America. I flipped the pages and saw immediately that it was a collection of touchy-feely personal-interest stories for the typical bored housewife—not my cup of tea at the time, as I was keen for the knock-your-socks-off Sci-fi fantasy, not sap.
Well, regardless, I checked the index of that particular Digest copy, and spotted a stranger than fiction title: “whale rescues dog at sea”. Needless to speak it, but was reading that account of that poor hapless mutt as fast as my eyes could keep up. So, as the story went, a sailboat cruising the Hawaii chain, lost the now famous pooch overboard, some fair distance from any landfall. Some time later, according to witnesses, the dog was vomited forth on Waikiki’s volcanic sand beech by a whale, whose particular identity remained somewhat illusive. The article made point to mention, that as whales are air-breathing fish who must dive to depths for food or such, they are often equipped with great, roomy, air-chambers connecting to their mouthparts, which are used for buoyancy, or ballast, or occasional kennels. Furthermore it had been known to folklore, for whales to make use of their hospitable interiors in various similar circumstances—although rarely, if ever, confirmed by “documented sources”, i.e., modern Americans.
When I read Jonah and the whale I immediately remembered this account of the dog, and right-away saw that travel by whale was by no means impossible, especially a kinder version of Moby Dick, who might encompass a vast troop in that dark sea-monster belly. Yet, there remained the obvious question mark—besides the One question, to some (or all), of benevolent guiding powers, far beyond our scope of reasoning— the question of three-days in the belly of the sea monster? How did Jonah travel from the Levant to the Persian Gulf, and then halfway up the Tigris to Mosul? —Simple reason states that such a journey, round the horn, is no small weekend getaway.
Remembered all this just today, reading the wiki article on the Suez Canal, where scarcely a few words into its heady mass, it shocked me with the paragraph: Ancient canals! Circa 1870 BC! Now, mind you, I didn’t find much depth, except the suggestion that these multiple, early suez canal attempts, may have allowed certain passage at oft times. But the details remain fuzzy. Nonetheless, the point is clear: there is no miracle in a fish swallowing a man; there is no miracle in a three day voyage up the Suez Canal; as to God, well, is He the miracle worker to command the fish— that I can’t say, except He certainly has less succès with commanding men. As Jonah, God’s reluctant prophet, himself testified
The Old Sea Dog In Me loves this report, Sourpuss!
Let me clarify: Even though I AM an airbreathing mammalian swimmer, I am not a whale and have never swallowed a Sea Dog.
I trust your skills as a Sea-Savvy Cat in discerning all of these subtle distinctions, but don’t want any other readers to get sea sick and throw up any objections.
“Reader’s Digest” … also known as “Reader’s Indigestion”.
The Soviet Superplane That Rattled America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hv2dsVkA38
The Dumbest Intelligence Mistake…………is Oversimplification!
Neon Revolt’s latest article and investigative compass illustrates this fact quite well:
“Remember, the Cabal is not monolithic. As much as we like to chalk evil happenings up as the responsibility of “the Cabal,” these bad actors are rarely functioning as a unified front. What I now think is more likely in this scenario is while the Obama faction was sheltering Gulen, the Clinton faction (and Foundation) was working with Erdogan.
That also doesn’t mean the Obama faction was working against the Clinton faction. Rather, I think quite the opposite. All these federal biofuel credits came into existence during the Obama years.”
Hmmmm! Erdogan? Gulen? A Mormon polygamy sect in Utah with properties in Turkey?
Human Trafficking???
A former Soviet Republic (Armenia) prominently featured as a major “Clown” (CIA) staging area???
But wait! There’s MORE!
A LOT more:
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/07/26/the-biggest-heist-in-american-history-exposing-the-kingston-groups-nefarious-activities-with-usattyhuber-and-genflynn-qanon-greatawakening-neonrevolt/
Lots out there, even hitting the MSM. And then the Arkanside event. Does Epy boy have an insurance policy one wonders. Otherwise, one might have expected someone to take out Epy long ago.
NAZI IDEOLOGY NO LONGER TO APPEAR IN GOOGLE SEARCH RESULTS IN SPAIN
The Lawfare Project filed several take-down notices with Google LLC after the Jews identified content in
Google search results that included extreme and defamatory racism against the Jewish people.
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Nazi-ideology-no-longer-to-appear-in-Google-search-results-in-Spain-596631
This man understands America: let me add that many, many white people died in the Civil War which was supposedly to “free the slaves”. There was a very vocal, organized abolitionist movement and skirmishes both legal ( Dred Scott) and illegal ( Harper’s Ferry and Underground Railroad) for years among the white population before the war.
As for Native Americans–that is a very grim story as in California their population was diminished by 80% from diseases brought by the invaders.
Culture war starts by rewriting history.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/465154-racism-migrant-crisis-liberals-trump/
German Lullaby – Schlafe,mein Prinzchen, schlaf ein / Sleep, my little Prince, sleep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLwbdfINnU
Boys’ Choir: Regensburger Domspatzen / Cathedral sparrows of Regensburg
Soloist: Bernhard Wehle
Componist: Bernhard Files
Lyrics: Friedrich Wilhelm Gotter
This song has long been discovered to be the work of Bernhard Flies, an amateur composer who lived
at the same time as Mozart. To sell the work, many people signed their work with the names of famous composers, and this is what happened in the case of this song.
https://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=4039