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So, here’s me sitting afar and watching another coup d’etat in US. Your thoughts? My thoughts are I’m watching a tragicomedy farce happen in front of my very eyes. And I know for a fact that, to quote a famous quote, ‘the clans are gathering’, Kankle’s Deplorables will not take this lying down. In my opinion, this half baked coup is a last ditch attempt to stop the reelection of President Trump. The coup attempt will also guaranty the return of the Republicans to majority in the House.
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I though the Nationalist vs Globalist part of the speech at the UN was an actual call to arms, and from the tone of voices in the vid that Saker posted from the Rep leaders, it seemed like they were delivering the message. Hate to be pessimistic but it’s a bad vibe, unlike Russiagate which was a fun joke to watch play out. This, what’s happening now, is way different imho.
To me, shaping up what I see now, the fight is between London and Washington, everything since 911 has been a distraction. Like, what if 911 was really a Brit distraction……………they have the MO.
I don’t think London has much to do with it, London is nothing but a whimpering toothless old cat living out it’s last few days on an island that has gone patently insane, I think it’s a blatant case of the Deep State, aka the three letter agencies and the Dems, knowing what is coming for them in a second Trump presidency and they are desperately trying to stop what is shaping up to be their nemesis when he does win. This is going to get really ugly, I fear, and my statement ‘the clans are gathering’ is if anything a vast understatement. The good thing is if the fettuccine hits the whirling blades, your domestic ‘opiate crisis’ will be over in two sunrises, three at the most.
Auslander
@Auslander
Trump has enjoyed the thrill of “piling on” in the game of Regime change in HK, Iran and Venezuela…. especially Venezuela.
But he is not finding the home-grown regime change fun.
karma is a biych.
Our Dear Leader, the God-bothering Pentecostal happy-clapper, Morrison, has seen an opportuinity to play dag on Trump’s ample fundament. He’s blathering about doing away with ‘globalism’ and international treaty obligations, just as his flunkies and apologists keep on braying about the ‘Rules Based International Order’ at all times. Very obviously his prime target is Paris, his rabble of psychopaths, liars and sadists being run by the dumbest and most vicious denialists and fossil-fuel lovers imaginable. We are rapidly circling the plug-hole.
It is funny that you should write about “coup d’etat.” I just received a text message from some group called something like “Stand up, America.” They urged me to write to my local congressman and urge him to support impeachment.
Now, I don’t know where they got my phone number from, but I was formerly a registered democrat, so they probably thought that I would be receptive to their message.
I wasn’t. In fact, I was really angry.
I texted right back to the sender and told her to “take your coup d’etat and shove it up your a** ”
Because that is what it is, it is an attempted coup d’etat.
No doubt and plain as the nose on your face, this it a coup. The first coup failed when no evidence of ‘Russian interference’ in the ’16 election could be found. Remember, these same clowns were screaming impeachment as the last votes were being tallied, lone before President Trump took the oath of office.
However, you have to be more poetic in your replies to the morons:
“I texted right back to the sender and told her to “take your coup d’etat and shove it up your a** ” What you should have said is ‘Take your coup and stick it where the maid places her feather duster two minutes after your wife leaves for work’. That, or spell it out for them thus: Tango alpha kilo echo Yankee oscar uniform romeo Charlie oscar uniform papa and Sierra hotel oscar victor echo India tango Sierra quebec uniform alpha romeo echo Uniform papa Yankee oscar uniform romeo November echo tango hotel echo romeo Romeo echo golf india oscar november sierra…. or Alpha sierra sierra, whatever they understand better.
A coup? Try a soap opera designed to distract people from zionazi-nazi-gay war crimes and other crimes. The israeli quisling trump was a potential alternative, due to his lack of political place holding (record of political action), but that govno is no longer applicable. His words do not match his actions, but are simply applied psywar. He’s not a well meaning amateur, he is a fully cognizant, team player in the most fascist, far right zionazi freakshow, working his role selling likud, and worse, extremism. The guy is an extension of the raygun/bush/bush jr. team. They don’t give a flying f*** about us, or even the usa, all they care about is reinforcing/expanding massa zionazi corporate power at the expense of all the rest of us not working for subhuman sods.
As for trump being reasonable on Russia, that’s bs. The guy sometimes speaks about taking a reasonable path, such as his recent noise about “letting” Russia rejoin the g7 colonies, but look at ehat he has actually done. Total hostile actions, I cant think of one seriously reasonable action the likud owned trump has taken in regards to Russia. His rhetoric about better relations has been shown empty by his nonstop war against Russia. Why a supposed friend of Russia would promote this Russophobe begs credulity.
And that’s just against Russia, his, and his nearly 100% israeli owned/operated, neocon colonial regime have practiced this aggression across the board. Any country who disagrees with this intolerant, likud freakshow gets the same cowardly, chickengovno from these repulsive quislings. Especially when it is about israel, or israeli war criminal behaviour.
Maga is zionazi-gay “newspeak” for “keep our zionazi-gay massas in control, suckas”. And that is the trump quisling regime in a nutshell.
It’s a bit like Freedonia in Duck Soup, with Groucho Trump beset by enemy spies, Harpo Schiffty and Chico Schumer, and war inevitable because the battle-ground is still under rent. Hail, hail, Freedonia!
Auslander,
In my opinion, this half baked coup is a last ditch attempt to stop the reelection of President Trump. The coup attempt will also guaranty the return of the Republicans to majority in the House.
Agreed that this is an attempted coup and that it is to stop the reelection of Trump, but there is more at stake. If Justice Ginsberg were to fail during Trump’s first term, then there is a reasonable argument that a president facing impeachment is unfit to nominate her successor. It’s a bogus argument of course, but unless the senate rallies behind Trump, there may not be enough votes to confirm even a moderate. The crazy Dems want to ensure a liberal replacement for Ginsberg.
Another consideration is the non-war in Iran, and the lost war in Syria. If Trump is completely sidelined by impeachment, he may have to defer certain decisions to Pence, who I think is most likely to start another hot war.
I’m sure we could find other situations that require some sort of rash action in the next twelve months. So, even if the impeachment goes nowhere, if it can derail the presidency, what is the practical difference?
I hope the Republicans can find a way to turn the proceedings into an investigation of all the acts of war and corruption committed by Hillary, Obama and Biden so that if we find a Republican controlled house in 2021, the investigation, already started, can result in criminal proceedings against those people.
Meanwhile we are still left wondering what to do about an abolished Federal Reserve, the Treasury’s ship is large, but the dingy is small.
Are you talking about Trump’s hands?
Nope, the Feds bank book of debt.
Ginsberg is walking dead, they are keeping her alive in an attempt to have her replacement appointed by the next prez, but I think you are reading too much in to this blatant coup. There is little sympathy for SCOTUS appointees, the single goal is to prevent Trump from having a second term. The Swamp knows very well what awaits them if Trump manages to survive, literally, this coup and serve a second four years, it will be the end of them, and for many, in more ways than one.
Auslander
What does it matter who is nominated to be a judge? In the glorious ‘Free World’, under the Divine ‘Rule of Law’, it does not matter-does it? Dame Justice is blind, surely?
The US government refuses to take my American client off a Kill List
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52338.htm
“Does the US Constitution allow President Donald Trump to order the assassination of innocent Americans in total secrecy? Such a question seems absurd; unfortunately, a US District judge has just answered in the affirmative.
“He seeks his birthright,” wrote Judge Rosemary Collyer, a George W Bush appointee, “…a timely assertion of his due process rights under the Constitution to be heard before he might be included on the Kill List and his First Amendment rights to free speech before he might be targeted for lethal action due to his profession.”
This was a landmark ruling, and to most readers it would seem like common sense. However, the government then sought to dismiss it on the grounds that the government would have to reveal “state secrets” in telling Kareem whether or not he had been targeted and why.
Some of us may be horrified that the US engages in assassination — execution without trial — at all. Regardless, surely when someone who claims to be innocent has compelling reason to think he is being targeted, the least we can expect in a democracy is a modicum of due process?”
What is being described here is common israeli practice. They don’t like someone, for whatever reason, real or imagined, they murder the person. This is what israel’s colonial satrap, trump is now officially imposing on america. This is your trump, auslander. This is his idea of rule of law and democracy. This is what your “patriotic hero” is championing in america. He is dutifully imposing isrseli control and mores upon the usa. And he is very enthusiastic about doing so.
Personally, I view maga as an abreviation of maggot.
There was a best-seller, recently, about Israel’s innumerable State murder campaigns. Called ‘Rise and Kill First’, after some Judaic Holy Commandment or other, its author was interviewed on ABC Radio by a dedicated ‘Phil O’Semite’, and was treated with the compulsory sycophancy required of the goyim, lest they be condemned to outer darkness for ‘antisemitism’. Murder, under Talmudic Judaic Law, of ‘enemies’, including civilians, is a Holy act, a ‘mitzvah’, and the concept of ‘proportionality’ is rejected with vigour.
Cafe contributors (+lurkers) may enjoy this:
http://www.unz.com/chopkins/trumpenstein-must-be-destroyed/
So, in 2016 Trump was elected and us outsiders were relieved, basically because we did not see immediate war breaking out. We were stupid, as at least myself knew that Trump understood finances, and had expectation that he can turn the US financially into a better state, like deal with the extraordinary and totally not sustainable debt for starters. Then we entered the phase of MAGA where Trump wanted to solve US financial and economic problems on the backs of other countries and the US is not taking .. well, how to say this not to be horrible .. its punishment for raping most of the rest of the world, after WWII at least.
– Now, it is the same story – if Trump’s impeachment goes ahead, or even while he is fighting it, the focus of what others do is lessened, and we may well see some crazies again start pushing for war. Both Trump and Nancy Pelosi is shouting regarding Hong Kong and fighting China and of course Trump allows more sanctions to Russia.
– All of the lawmakers in the US are supportive of fighting China, and fighting Russia. This is clear and called out in various military doctrines, published and openly stated – there are no secrets here. As Catherine Austin Fitts said with great trepidation, with the going dark of all the federal accounting, we now have a situation where there is secret money for secret armies, i.e., clans will fight clans and will fight just where somebody thinks they can get federal funds for secret fighting (Blackwater for example whatever their current name is), will just fight.
. Trump, with his sending of troops (not too many but anyways) to Saudi Arabia, has made the US military a clear example of army for hire, i.e., clearly mercenaries, instead of a defensive force (remember Tulsi Gabbard’s words).
*This fight may be the fight that topples the US as Leader of the World inasmuch they still pretend to be that.
*This fight may be the fight that makes the economic system collapse – You all should watch what is happening economically.
*This fight may be the fight that makes the US unmanageable for a time, because of the crisis of governance.
* All of these lawmakers involved are in some way or another beholden to whichever Israeli faction – all of them – this has been so clearly outed in the last years by many people.
Trump is still trying to MAGA, but his MAGA is focused on more wealth extraction from the rest of the world, still under the guise of ‘exporting democracy’ instead of having the US join the human race in positive and peaceful endeavors. (Sanctions, tariffs, army for hire in other countries – bases), etc. It was deafening, all the ‘financial and economic punishment’ to those countries that did not want to bow to the US to be exploited since Trump took over). He is truly responsible for this despite the rich history of all US administrations doing the exact same thing – and enriching themselves in the process. Thus far, Trump has not managed even one complete troop withdrawal from the various fighting arenas.
Everyone is debating and shouting about Trump’s phone call to Zelenskii – but nobody is asking any questions about what the US actually did there, which is clear and beyond doubt – color revolution, so, this whole thing is just noise as nobody gets to the core of the matter. Who cares who screwed who if the basic color revolution is not understood. The US (according to cookies nuland) at that time had spent 5 Billion on the Ukraine and this has continued. Nobody remembers this number – in comparison, Biden’s stealing is petty cash and pocket change.
We should all look to the economics and financial status of the US as this is the one thing that can affect the rest of the world. In my opinion both Russia and China (and in various ways they have said so) is letting the US down easy in terms of finances and economics and not doing anything that can make the whole world’s applecart turn over. But Putin has said now various times and in various type of language, that the US has weaponized the Dollar and this will not be allowed to continue.
Catherine Austin Fitts made a short comment on her Twitter: “The harm that comes from disinformation and entrainment is terrible – and it is getting much worse – moving towards “Animal Farm”
Yes, that is what it looks like to me. Everybody is influence peddling and nobody is touching truth.
All I have to say is that if the US people put their trust only in Trump, they will have a hard road to walk. I would beg for clear vision in terms of what is happening in the US … Trump may be playing this up (and he is playing this up .. tweeting nights through – making just too much noise) .. to also hide an economic catastrophe that may not have taken shape fully under his watch, but no matter what he did, he could not change course on the US deep dive into horrendous debt. The so-called repo’s are not filling the bellies of the hungry banks – the US will be forced to print money as it looks now .. and the value of the currency will tumble. Most of the US agriculture is in big big trouble, and farmers now have had a 3rd bailout. All other countries are spreading their risk now, and making dollars go back to the US and dealing in more stable currency pairs and going back to massive gold reserves. I leave it to you to figure out what will happen then, to Trump and to the other factions in this US / Western fight as Trumps reshoring of the ability to produce is not working out as he wished. His madly twittering of good growth must be checked by going to shadowstats because Trump is a promoter and he will easily oversell everything. Nobody is running to go and manufacture in the US. Apple has thrown a bone just recently, but be clear, it is a bone. Brexit is at issue here, because Trump’s almost final hope for economic and financial ‘deals’ is the United Kingdom. That is exactly why in the last sanctions to the EU, many luxury items from the UK has now been sanctioned. He is hoping that after Brexit of some kind or another, trade will be backed up for those items that are now sanctioned and he can make trade flow quickly. As business people know and understand -cash flow is king.
All Hail the Single Malt Scotch!.
His personal wish from what I see with him pushing his daughter into affairs of state, is to have her be the next president. She is also making a true fool of herself, prancing through the UN with nipples sticking out from her sheer top.
All I can hope for the US, is that the economic and/or governance implosion does not hurt ordinary people. But this is hope against hope, as the ordinary people must also learn the reality of their successive administrations, and that is the difficult part. My own family have their eyes tightly closed and simply mutter the words ‘highly controversial’, and then go off to their Christian Zionist Big Church so that they can dive deeply into their Pastor’s religion of wealth. Like CAF say .. Animal Farm.
Bombs of the Great Patriotic War found near the Crimean bridge
By Regina Pak —– October 4, 2019
Simferopol, October 4. Rescuers discovered and neutralized a number of explosive items from the time
of the Great Patriotic War in Crimea. This is stated in the message of the main department of Russia in
the Republic of Crimea.
The department said that the rescuers discovered 11 explosive objects. An aerial fragmentation bombs
and a grenade were found near the Crimean bridge: in the water, 20 meters from the support.
The German anti-personnel bomb was found in the area of the Adzhimushkai memorial complex, and
the fragmentation bomb weighing 10 kilograms was found in Komsomolsky Park and in the area of the
Palace of Pioneers in Kerch. In addition, not far from the village of Bondarenkovo, rescuers found three
more fragmentation bombs. In the same place, in the Leninsky district near Lake Tobenchik, pyrotech-
nicians identified a discovered explosive object as a high explosive bomb weighing 50 kg.
“In all cases, all the explosive cargo found was delivered to a specialized training ground, where it was destroyed with all safety measures,” the Crimean Emergencies Ministry said in a statement.
In total, eight people and two pieces of equipment were involved in the operation.
In August, it became known that Crimean rescuers neutralized an air bomb and 1.7 thousand of ammu-
nition from the Great Patriotic War, which they found in the fortress of Kerch.
Source: https://riafan.ru/1217144-bomby-vremen-velikoi-otechestvennoi-obnaruzhili-ryadom-s-krymskim-mostom?utm_source=nnn.ru&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=04.10-2&utm_content=ad-9493997&utm_term=nnn_381487
The US House of Representatives demanded from Pence documents on Ukraine
By Jeremy Herb, CNN —- October 4, 2019
House Democrats are seeking documents from Vice President Mike Pence as part of their impeachment investigation into President Donald Trump and his conversation with the President of Ukraine.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/mike-pence-documents-impeachment/index.html
It was stated, ( i believe), that until a vote is taken to make the (impeachment) proceedings formal, that the administration would ignore this request.
Nearly 1,700 US Priests Accused of Child Sex Abuse Live Freely Among Minors
https://sputniknews.com/society/201910041076966709-nearly-1700-us-priests-accused-of-child-sex-abuse-live-freely-among-minors/
“Around 1,700 priests and clergy members that the Catholic Church considers “credibly accused” of child sexual abuse are living in the US with “no oversight,” an AP report published Friday finds.
In its review of more than 5,100 clergy members, AP found that out of 2,000 living priests and other church employees “named as credibly accused abusers,” almost 1,700 were “living without much supervision” and working in various roles. Only a few hundred such clergy members were being supervised by the church or by law enforcement.
AP also found that hundreds of “credibly accused abusers” remained in close contact with children.
“More than 160 continued working or volunteering in churches, including dozens in Catholic dioceses overseas and some in other denominations. Roughly 190 obtained professional licenses to work in education, medicine, social work and counseling — including 76 who, as of August, still had valid credentials in those fields,” the AP report explains.
AP also cites several examples of clergy members who were accused of abusing children on more than one occasion. For example, Roger Sinclair was removed by the Diocese of Greensburg in Pennsylvania back in 2002 on accusations that he had abused a teenage boy years before. In 2017, he was arrested for molesting a “young developmentally disabled man,” according to AP. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in August 2018 that Sinclair reportedly did not pose as a priest when he committed the abuse.”
Only 1700…
I have found that some of these people(s), have licences to commit these crimes.
Whenever I see stories of continuing Roman Catholic priestly paedophilia, which goes back centuries, probably millennia, I always think of ‘St’. Wojtyla, the pontifical patron of priestly paedophiles, who did so much to protect priests from justice for their crimes. Surely the Church must be forced to rescind his ‘beatification’.
Polish Female Boxer Kisses Her Rival During Weighing, Gets Slapped in Face – Video
https://sputniknews.com/viral/201910041076965564-polish-female-boxer-kisses-her-rival-during-weighing-gets-slapped-in-face—video/
“Polish boxer Ewa Brodnicka was slapped in the face by her rival Edith Soledad Matthysse during the weighing in preparation for the Tymex Boxing Night 9 gala on 4 October, following the Pole’s attempt to kiss her opponent on the lips.
The video, shared by Brodnicka on her Instagram page, shows how the Polish boxer leans in towards Matthysse, to which the Argentinian boxer, who holds a record of 16 wins and 10 defeats ahead of the engagement, responds with an immediate slap.
According to the footage, the promoter in charge first burst into laughter following the kiss between two boxers, but eventually was forced to intervene in order to separate the fighters to avoid a brawl.”
Should be an interesting match, no? At least for the suits making the majority of the profits.
Boxers are always trying to ‘psych-out’ their opponents. Perhaps Ali should have kissed Joe Frazier before their first fight. Mind you, old Joe probably would have laughed his head off.
I would like to see a heavy weight fight woman – man, after all we are no rascists, aren’t we ? There MUST be mixed category olympics open to all 17 genders, may the best prevail !
Global Warming
While Greta Thunberg is choking on Carbon dioxide.
A School experiment back fires on Govt Global warming propaganda. Students recently set up an experiment to view the effects of very high concentrations of carbon dioxide on plant growth. Toward the end of their experiment, I looked over at the line of bell jars each with a plant inside and said. Is that the one with extra carbon dioxide, the big bushy one? It was obvious because it was much bigger and greener than the others. They were confused about Carbon Dioxides negative publicity in relation to Global Warming. I said there are two sciences. The one that confuses you is Political Science and I will give you a clue. Political Science is different to true science because Politicians have an agenda. Political science always makes the science fit the agenda. Just record and report your results with confidence without bias. My opinion is Carbon dioxide is good for plants and our environment. Carbon represents all life on this planet and it is not hard to establish Political motive. Two very good videos by James Corbett to download and watch are:
Video – How Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/LzzY5OmFbLx2JA
Video – Why Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/R1y2at43Y_mFsg
This information also reveals who’s behind the Climate change initiative and why.
Fantastic example of hard-core Dunning-Krugerism. Everyone knows, and no scientist denies, that increased CO2 aids plant growth-up to a point and all other factors being equal.
But, and I know that this might come as a surprise, the world is NOT a bell-jar. In the world increased CO2 also brings climate destabilisation, increased average and maximum temperatures, the derangement of the hydrological cycle, therefore more and deeper droughts and deluges and floods, and the spread of weed species, pests and diseases. So, where it counts, in agriculture and in tropical forests, or in the cryosphere of ice-sheets, glaciers etc, increased CO2 will be a disaster, particularly as these detrimental changes are occurring so very rapidly. But I expect you’ll be happy in your bell-jar world.
Even this week in UK …warnings of a lantern fly and chinese hornet that can seriously affect other insects and plants eg fruit blossoms….
Increased Carbon Dioxide levels result in increased plant growth consuming more Carbon Dioxide, keeping it in balance.
Mike, Mike, Mike-then how has the level of CO2 in the atmosphere risen from 280 ppm 200 years ago to today’s 415 ppm and 490 ppm CO2 equivalent, taking other greenhouse gases into account. That, I hate to tell you, is NOT ‘balance’. The natural flux of CO2 is gigantic, but it was balanced, UNTIL the anthropogenic addition of fossil fuel emission of previously fossilised carbon.
Mulga, what you are describing is hysteresis (upper and lower thresholds). Balance is not performed in real time. There is lag. The Oceans are the lungs of the earth. When the earth cools Carbon Dioxide is absorbed by water resulting in lower concentrations in the atmosphere. When the oceans warm, Carbon dioxide is released to the atmosphere increasing concentrations. There are also many natural sources of Carbon dioxide far greater than man made. The Sun drives climate change, not Carbon Dioxide. It may seem man made Carbon Dioxide levels are out of control but it is not. I don’t like the cold. I like it warm. But what concerns me is the manipulation of statistics to achieve a higher agenda and that is to create a gravy train for the elite at our expense.
This video shows how statistics is manipulated to show the perfect cheating point that environmental alarmists are dependent on.
https://yadi.sk/i/8l2P-Ndj1Ezawg
What is ignored is HAARP, It pumps huge amounts of energy into the ionosphere. It also has the effect of repelling the atmosphere further out into space. I consider it a very dangerous exercise.
Mike, your brainwashing by the denialists is almost admirable. The ‘elite’ you decry, the global parasites whose greatest treasure is fossil fuels, NOT Green taxes, have taken control of your mind, and you have not yet noticed it. The Sun controls just about every facet of our existence, including climate, but it is NOT the only facctor in climate. We learn that in high school. The role of greenhouse gases is also vital, another high school lesson. Denialist propaganda refutes that, so from then it is just malignant gibberish, but then it descends even lower into paranoid slander that the global scientific community (save 0.001% of cranks and the morally corrupt on the payrolls of industry and Rightwing omnicidists)is engaged in a gigantic conspiracy, into which they have, somehow, also inducted the melting glaciers, ice-sheets, permafrost etc, and innumerable other natural phenomena that IRREFUTABLY establish that the climate is rapidly destabilising.
Mulga,
Who knows that you’re not the one having been brainwashed? And even if you’re right with your doom scenario what are you going to do about it?
Changing the behavior of a couple of 100k Saker readers to save the world by keeping nagging to them? Don’t you think hat there are way more important agendas than the CO2 one?
Let’s stop using plastics the way we do, clean up the oceans, put a total stop to producing shit products as well as useful products with programmed obsolescence, use aluminium or low grade stainless steel to produce cars so that they can be recycled better and repaired easier and … etc. Gradually up to a world where not profits but resource management becomes the goal.
But if we can’t and mankind dies off? So what, we’ve had our chances and we’ve screwed up, truly, undeniably, total FUBAR. Your and my genetics are not more important than the species that have already quit the game. The earth back to nature…
I totally agree Jacques Cuse, We can improve the way we deploy and recycle resources. We can eliminate Fluoride entering the environment through our water supplies. Ban dusting the environment with Depleted Uranium (Uranium 238) which has a half-life of 4.5 billion years. And close down HAARP which is pumping huge amounts of energy into the Ionosphere. But we have not eliminated the incomplete combustion of Fossil Fuels resulting is Carbon Monoxide and black smoke emission, because the issue has moved to China and third world countries when our industries were displaced. Nearly all of Australia’s products are made in China. While everyone is dancing around the CO2 clouds, which has little effect on our climate, mankind is permanently contaminating the environment more seriously in a different way.
Just more denialist disinformation. Greenhouse gases have a massive effect on the planet’s climate, which is settled science resulting from 200 years of science, starting with Foote, Fourier and Tyndall. By rejecting basic science you once again render your contribution worthless. And of course we need to address all those other disasters you mention as a crude diversionary tactic, but without resolving anthropogenic climate destabilisation all our efforts in every field will be totally pointless. I’m just listening to a radio show about wildfires in eastern Australia. A group of retired fire chiefs has petitioned the Federal regime to act against the emission of greenhouse gases, because they all, being sane, agree that anthropogenic climate destabilisation is real and making fire conditions catastrophic, and as one chief said, they are ‘terrified’. They’re lying too, or idiots, are they?
Please Mulga, provide reference links of information that convinced you that Global Warming is created by human activity, in respect to Carbon Dioxide emissions. I have provided you links of information to the contrary that are valid but you are still adamant that humans are causing catastrophic climate change. I assume you viewed all the information I provided links for. Science always should be re-examined and cross examined. My search for truth reveals fundamental flaws in the official narrative that humans are creating global warming when all factors are taken into account, but you can’t. What is it?
Jacques X. Cuse, of course I could be brainwashed, but not by others, rather by myself. And I share that possible brainwashing with all the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth, and 99% of active climate scientists. I’d rather their company that that of fossil fuel industry disinformationists and hard Right fanatics. I have no car, PV on the roof, solar hot-water, have planted 200 trees here (hundreds more in other places), and turned the garden organic, which is sequestering a deal of carbon. I eat very little meat, no dairy and grow vegies and some fruit. And I go on and on against denialists, if only for reasons of intellectual and moral hygiene.
I agree that there are other agendas that require remedying in order to reverse the ecological Holocaust, but the greenhouse effect, leading to a ‘hothouse world’ and a sixth mass extinction and human disappearance, is the worst. And I find that prospect hideous and one to be avoided by any means available.
Mulga, Your choices on recycling, diet, self-sufficiency and renewable energy is good, but you can save yourself a lot of anxiety if you review concerns on both sides. The key is to retain an open mind.
The majority of scientists that you refer to agree there is climate change but not caused by man- made carbon emissions which is about 3% of the atmosphere. You can be forgiven for thinking that as the Climate Change authorities are to blame for false and misleading statements. The planet is dynamic.
Oligarchs who are in the oil business are also promoting the Global Warming agenda. They control both sides. James Corbett goes into great detail.
Video – How Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/LzzY5OmFbLx2JA
Video – Why Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/R1y2at43Y_mFsg
It is probably a good a idea not to shit in your own nest. It doesnt matter if when how climate change is occurring. We only have one planet and whilst i will be dead and thus it will not matter to me i think it is ethical to leave the planet in the state it was before i arrived.
We used to throw our waste into the streets but stopped doing this because it was bad for everyone.
The climate talks are faulty because we are not shouldering the effort on a planetary basis. Until all countries rich and poor developed or not accept the burden, nothing will happen. The developing countries are saying the developed world made the mess and we need to make as much mess as them.
We should set a carbon balance on a per capita basis and if necessary, the rich countries could pay to meet these targets.
CO2 is not 3% of the atmosphere. It’s 0.04%. You’ve only exaggerated the figure about 75 fold.
The majority of scientists most definitely agree that greenhouses gases, including CO2 are causing climate destabilisation. To assert the opposite is just flat wrong. And, as I said, but got the decimals wrong, CO2 at 490 ppm equivalent, including methane, nitrous oxide etc, is 0.049% of the atmosphere, NOT 3%, a figure that is SO incorrect that it is beyond wrong. And, needless to say, there you use one of the crudest denialist tropes ever, and one that any high school science student knows is garbage.
@ Mulgamumblebrain I love your response and appreciate your hard physical efforts at sustainability over the years, as well as your ongoing effort at educating the deniers here. I bypass the endless greenhouse gas arguments and go straight to “Civilization is a heat pump”. Only a total fool can deny it. Everything done, or manufactured generates heat, either in use or it’s manufacture. I’ve generated about 98.6F for 82 years.
Making ice cubes makes heat and the air conditioner to work against that heat generated more heat as does the fan on an evaporative cooling fan. That civilization is a heat pump should be obvious to the most obtuse.
I think it was Amaryllis who said “you are the glass half empty type”. A half empty glass of something good is half a glass enjoyed and another half more to enjoy!
Thanks for your ongoing posts
Barry, I’m a ‘The glass is twice as big as it needs to be’ type, I fear. Thank-you for your kind and generous regards.
Until we can find another earth to experiment on, i would think it is a good idea to stop pushing co2 and other stuff into the atmosphere.
The ‘precautionary principle’ is a commonsense idea, particularly when human existence is threatened. But a few years ago, a local feminazi Murdochite………. started arguing that it meant that climate science had to be 100% undeniable before we did anything, because otherwise ‘the economy’ might suffer. This….has two daughters, now in their 20s I suppose. The same……attacked peer review a few years prior, although, as far as I know, she has no scientific credentials. The denialists will reject anything and everything in their lust for money, and hatred of humanity.
It is all ready for Global Financial Mafia Science to take over.
Central Bankers Go Green… Why?
https://theduran.com/central-bankers-go-green-why/
Leading central bankers had already issued a call for the same new green banking system which Greta and the countless masses also demanded.
While officially announced on September 22nd at the opening of the UN Climate Summit in NY, a Central Banker’s Climate Compact was unveiled under the leadership of Bank of England Governor Mark Carney that had already been in the works for over 18 months representing over 130 of the world’s largest and corrupt banks calling for a radical decarbonisation of the world economy by 2/3 according to commitments laid out in the 2015 Paris Climate accord.
Bank of England head and Chair of the Bank of International Settlement’s Financial Stability Board (2011-2018) Mark Carney announced at this venue that “climate disclosures must become comprehensive, climate risk management must be transformed and sustainable investing must go mainstream”. Carney then took on a more threatening tone by saying “the firms that anticipate these developments will be rewarded handsomely. Those that don’t will cease to exist”.
Now Mark Carney has been hailed by the environmental lobby as the leading “eco-warrior” of central bankers. So how do Carney and his fellow hive of central bankers propose the world transform?
For starters, Carney believes that a new global reserve currency must replace the U.S. Dollar.
What should this post-dollar system be based upon? Well, Carney stated that it should be modelled on Facebook’s cryptocurrency the Libra. Unlike the Libra however, Carney’s cryptocurrency will be entirely controlled by private banking institutions and totally removed from sovereign nation states, which are just too influenced by short term political interests rather than an “enlightened technocratic elite” who know how to truly think long term.
Currencies and the money supply are already privatised. You surely don’t think that the US Federal Reserve or the Bank of England are controlled by their Governments.
@Anonymus
Yes, cattle herds are huge global warmers, they must be capped to make room for CO2 neutral green fuel via corn and rape oil.
Soybean’s ecological footprint is much better than the one of cows who graze here (on land which cannot be used otherwise), they must perish and be replaced by fine Brazilian (mainly from the Amazonian basin, where there had been useless forest before) soybeans from eco-certified fine Blackstone owned farms. Meat eaters are to dine together with smokers in separated spaces in the future.
Yes the ecological future is very bright !
Does anyone know why the ‘global warming’ hysteria has changed name to ‘climate change’ ??
Oh, Dan-the hysteria over the nomenclature used to describe anthropogenic climate destabilisation is the denialist industry’s silliest furphy. Let’s just call it ‘Doom’, and be had with it. Cattle could be very useful in sequestering CO2 in the soil through regenerative grazing. Better for the cattle, who get to move about, free from hideous feed-lots. And I hate to tell you, but a great deal of the soy grown is fed to cattle in these feed-lots. In the end we need to eat less meat for health reasons, find a way to decrease their belching of methane, possibly through different intestinal flora, and humanely reduce the human population over a century or so. Otherwise the ecological collapse will reduce it catastrophically and rapidly. And the fuel for the future is definitely not oil-seeds and the like, but hydrogen produced with renewable electricity.
Mulga,
Wake up. Should HDan have put “sarcasm on” “sarcasm off” for you to get it?
With denialists one often prays that the pernicious idiocy is a sarcastic parody of utter stupidity, but it so rarely is. It is mostly quite genuine. In any case I thought Dan was half sarcastic, half not, in that contribution.
As Global Economy Weakens, Trump Escalates Trade War
https://www.globalresearch.ca/as-global-economy-weakens-trump-escalates-trade-war/5691013
“Multiple rounds of Sino/US trade talks failed over unacceptable Trump regime demands and aims.
They’re unrelated to the bilateral trade imbalance — caused by corporate America shifting operations to China and other low-wage countries.
Earlier talks were followed by US tariff increases, not progress on resolving bilateral differences — this time likely to be no different.”
What the zionazis-nazis are banking on is that the american economy will ride out the zionazi-nazi imposed economic storm more successfully than their rival in China will. This is a continuation of the capitalist oligarchy strategy of orchestrating economic depressions to bottom out their competition.
Meanwhile, at home, these rightwingers use the depression to extract more labour for less expense. IE: further empower themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
Who would survive all-out economic warfare better-the Chinese, after centuries of struggle and with a Government that makes ‘serving the people’ its priority, or the USA, riven by internecine class, race and ideological hatreds? It’s a ‘ha-ha’ question.
State of Emergency Declared in Ecuador Amid Mass Protests
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201910031076957241-state-of-emergency-declared-in-ecuador-amid-protests/
“Moreno announced the state of emergency after Interior Minister Maria Romo said that 19 protesters had been arrested for blocking roads and for other disruptive behaviour as demonstrators took to the streets, chanting slogans and burning tires, marking their anger over the elimination of long-standing fuel subsidies worth over $1.3 billion a year. Ecuador’s government announced plans to cut the subsidies as part of a broader austerity plan which also includes mass layoffs of employees from state-owned companies, and plans to privatise CNT, a state-owned telecommunications provider, and other firms, while making changes to the tax code.”
Hey, morono is just following trump’s orders, like he was when he betrayed Assange to israel’s colonial quislings. Give the poor stooge a break, it’s tough being the quisling of a quisling…
What’s happening with the Iraq colour revolution operation right now?
@Johny
Iraq: 100 dead at last report.
RT is giving coverage.
Israeli military pokes fun at Iranian ‘Mean Girls,’ but who’s really obsessed?
https://www.rt.com/news/470158-israel-mean-girls-tweet/
“The Israeli military has fired off a ‘Mean Girls’-inspired insult at its Iranian enemies, the latest in a series of hit-or-miss social media misadventures. Israel’s GIF specialists seem to be a bit obsessed with Tehran.
The tweet elicited a mix of laughs and groans. “I think we should discuss our MoD budget,” one Israeli sarcastically replied. “It’s funny because Netanyahu is SUCH a Gretchen,” another jeered.
The obsession with gif-based warfare, however, seems entirely one sided. To be fair, the Israeli military often jumps on board other pop culture trends too, with these efforts sometimes backfiring spectacularly.”
This is what happens when drama queens are in charge of pr. :-D Actually, the idf is probably the most gay military force on the planet. Though both the u.s. (starting from raygun regime) and u.k. (thatcher regime and later) militaries are not far behind.
1st Oct came and passed… what now?
While it may appear nothing happened… let dig abit more dirt out…
As mentioned b4…
Trump – “The Dude” That Won’t Back Down by Tom Luongo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4FFr12HDik
If you have time listen to the whole rant
but I want to direct you specifically to the last 15minutes or so… I foreshadow that back then… the money pag and the hotstuff
Its at a much much higher and hidden level…
but otherwise —> nothing happened…
p/s Kudos Tom! v. nice! Btw the dumbest color revo are now directly targeting and burning down any china-related store-front banks. Hmmmmm… but not HSABC bank…. Hmmmmm…
I am in the unfounded imagination that HK WILL and MUST go dark… and then let the “new game” be played… in a v. special room. Its clear to me, Xi, is not waiting to 2047. Neither Putin and all others on the OBOR. As mention, the lunar starchart is rising… and all of them have the bounty reserve of internal fortitude to stand tall…
… that leaves the v plausible v probable usual suspect – the one trick pony dance – one more time pls?! Sir may I have one more?
Or
… will it be a brand new show by some never-seen-b4 new actors —> “Aint no more?! Never again?! Who? They? Ceased to Exist.”
Again as mentioned, xmas is v.v.v.v.v far from me. Sadly.
Collateral Damage will likely be ratio. 10 million westerner for10 million easterners? Have no doubt they are talking about such things of ‘livestock trading’ as ‘warranted and necessary’ sacrifice they called ‘The Price for The Ultimate Victory’. They had WWI and WWII to practice… and its one of the one trick pony fav script…
Still a man is allow to dream —> my unfounded imagination —> dumb boys must die. Simple.
Let’s not be their collateral damage grade, you and your family and your country.
Pls be safe dear friends
Here is a movie made in the USSR in 1936. Contrast it with race relations in the USA, not just in the 1930’s but even now, where police kill blacks with impunity and refugee children escaping US coups are caged.
https://youtu.be/FVAN0A6OWE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVAN0A6OWE4
The real reasons for Trump’s impeachment. Lee Camp gives lots of reasons to impeach Trump, but they’re not the real reasons. Because the Democrats are just as guilty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CHX3Mjj0TA
Most powerful, rare and intoxicating images from the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvcjDe1Jq4
The Greta darling is now a resident of a great many households. She is a demanding guest requiring much bowing and salutation. She will give you a mean look if you should so much as dare as ask a question about her miraculous mission. A religious group I know has hailed her as the Joan of Arc of the 21st century. Ever willing to play the fool I attempt to throw a few facts into the conversation, but my arsenal is a bit low. Any links or references to the her background and that of her parents would be appreciated. I recently read that another youth gave an almost identical word-for-word speech around the same time. On the truth war path again….
Meanwhile from the ground in Ecuador. It was great to see every taxi, bulldozer and piece of heavy equipment out blocking the roads nationwide. The Ecuadorians are used to this kind of thing and are serious without losing their humanity. Unfortunately some subversive cia sponsored gangs from Columbia appeared to smudge the message. Things are called off for the weekend and negotiations will resume on Monday with threats of another strike if imf demands to remove oil subsidies continue
Lastly my ongoing gratitude to the poets who continue to bring rhyme to reason.
k
Aah, little Greta, I have something for you … not fact checked and it was waiting in a folder for me to check but … here it is.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/greta-thunbergs-family-parents/
And here is a nice comparison of the 2 ‘young girl’ speeches at the UN. Again, I have not watched this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOp5ATk_rlM
kinterra, there are a number of those comparison videos on youtube … so, just search if this one that I grabbed quickly and posted is not what you are looking for.
Muchas Gracias amarynth.
The links you suggest are consistent with the information found across the internet.
I’m likely just wasting my good time, but even worse, merely fueling the righteousness of her arch defenders. Reason has little voice against the power of group opinion, as soros and corp knows well.
k
kinterra, there is so much that is making a mockery of this IPCC stuff. I don’t want to overwhelm the Cafe, but we have feedback from the previous IPCC report, the one that deals with earth and biodiversity and so-called insect apocalypse and so on .. give me a bit of time – I’m deathly tired of this stuff. But, the opinion is swinging. I noticed this about 6 months ago, and now it is clear.
So now you are denying the insect Holocaust. That’s the thing about denialists-their ideology impels them to deny EVERYTHING. It is, I fear, truly pathological. And how well you regurgitate all the Rightwing denialist disinformation, whether knowingly or unwittingly only you know. The Heartland Foundation must be proud of you.
At least I am not bitter and twisted Mulga, or sloganeering in anger and despair. Oh, I have my times of ranting, but I don’t remain there as that is no good to man or beast.
But I will call out when others put words in my mouth. I said I have feedback on a specific report and immediately you accuse me of advocacy of that issue. That is a rooky mistake. Saying I have feedback is not denying or accepting anything and how you can come to your conclusion escapes me, in terms of sheer logic. I’m not even done reading this very big document and have said nothing and you’re already accusing with that ‘denial’ word. Such a sweet word modeled on holocaust denial because that one is already in the lexicon and in the knowledge base of people as a bad thing. So we see propaganda take shape, with little things like this.
What I do know from very first-hand experience and first-hand analysis is that we are being fed bad data from a poisoned well. This is now so frequently deliberately obscured toward a specific outcome by the IPCC and their cohorts and cronies, that one eventually has to ask the question .. Why? And then one starts finding the political control efforts. An English word comes to mind … Its a Wank to funnel money and make the taxpayer pay for that funnel!
There is something that most people do not know. We cannot expect good information from the IPCC, because they do not research the field of climate as a whole. This is not systems analysis – the only thing that they research, is Anthropogenic Climate Change – and that is all and nothing more. They are not concerned with the very intricate and cyclical nature of our climate on earth, they don’t care about biodiversity, they don’t care about non-poisoned food or clean water, they don’t care about the sun, the wind, the waves. the clouds. When they were constituted, the idea was that man was the cause of changes in our climate and that is all that they want to prove – nothing else. That is the hypothesis and instead of setting out to prove that hypothesis, they cook the data. So, to talk to them about any other climatic concept is like talking to a wall. They don’t care about that.
So, from the outset, and baked into their cake, was this flawed and extremely narrow concept, that does not take natural variability into account or natural climatic cycles. You know the saying that if you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail – so, to these people, if the bees die, it is manmade and a result of climate change, but nobody goes to look if there was poison sprayed. It is just that simple. A good example is that of the polar bears – their population dwindled and immediately it was climate change, but nobody besides a few knew that there was open hunting of polar bears. Now, the hunting has been curtailed and the population is flourishing.
And there is another thing that people generally do not know. There is the shout that anyone that questions anything, has to be prosecuted for premeditative murder. I kid you not and this is no joke. Mulga tried this accusation on Bro just here in the last few days from her arsenal of memes. So, we can take cognizance of the sheer level of hysteria and bloodsport here from those in the Church of Manmade Global Warming, or Climate Change or Climate Variability or Climate Destabilization.
Really, they want you and me to be killed if we question. Don’t believe me? (Here you will also learn that Al Gore studied theology) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z5CokMWMOE
Mulga, the rest of your sloganeered opinion is just that – an insulting opinion underscored with a bunch of assumptions which are truly all wrong as assumptions generally turn out to be. Where you have it wrong, is that I am your enemy. I am not, and even will accept an unproven hypothesis that human industrial and specifically weapons of war has an influence on climate – but hells bells, prove that hypothesis and don’t feed me bad and massaged data and set up a brainwashed child army to cover for your inability to simply scientifically prove your hypothesis. Science is not based on conformity or on consensus but on provable and repeatable scientific process.
Here is Prof. Judith Curry – a little older: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GujLcfdovE8&list=PLFtWxQ8ICpic2fA8J2BE7cR1fYcBVoMfk
and it is worth while searching for more of her videos.
And this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6zDbWMuP0&list=PLFtWxQ8ICpic2fA8J2BE7cR1fYcBVoMfk&index=3
And you all know that ‘all the scientists agree’. Well here is 500 of them that do not agree and say and sign their professional names that There is NO Climate Emergency – they are from Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China and Hong Kong, India, Japan, New Zealand, Russian Federation and the USA.
https://clintel.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ED-brochureversieNWA4.pdf
What I am also saying is that this climate change balloon is beginning to lose its air – everywhere – and I’ve said this for six months or so.
The Greta speech and antics of the kids where they did not even clean up their mess after their marches, revolted people.
Parents are pulling kids out of school if the death message is being spread.
Political parties are coming out saying clearly that this all climate change is a hoax.
Here is but one example from India, and this party is liberal. “Our party rejects attempts by UN organisations to impose the socialist model on the world in the guise of “climate change”. We remain committed to appropriate action against real pollutants and real environmental issues. “
https://swarnabharat.in/Documents/5-page%20handout%20on%20climate.pdf
Never will you see these people speak about the Peace.
Removed. Mod. And these are victims who might yet be saved, if the world acts to prevent the cataclysm. But the ecological denialists are working still, when the evidence is Irrefutable, with fanatic zealotry, still regurgitating the same lies and disinformation refuted over and over again, and peddling the same tiny cabal of denialist ‘scientists’ like Curry, themselves discredited over and over and over again. If this is not the gravest possible crime against humanity and Life on Earth, I have no idea what possibly could be.
Amarynth.
I do admire your fighting spirit (how you get the time on this subject is somewhat of a mystery to me).
However, you’re doing just fine on behalf of quite a few people in here I’m sure.
My own contribution to all “tumblebrains” might be somewhat like this: (or much worse/better depending).
http://telemarksporten.no/Tegneserier/DON_QUIXOTE_Self_Righteous.jpg
Kent
Amarynth, you have misrepresented me. I said that the KNOWING disinformers of the denialist industry, ie the propagandists, corrupt ‘scientists’, PR stooges and their financiers, must face justice for ecocide and genocide. I expressly stated, as I always do, that ignorant or brainwashed lumpen denialists should not face justice, because their bad consciences and social ostracism will be punishment enough. But I see that that comment has been ‘disappeared’.
It’s not ‘reason’, for crying out loud. It is the irrational rejection of science and evidence, and the hysterical hatred of a child who merely states the facts.
Removed. Please stop the personal attacks – against site policy. All personal attacks will go to trash. Mod.
Nobel prize winner Svante Arrhenius was born a couple of years after the end of the little ice age. He said CO2 was beneficial for us. Plants develope deeper roots and deserts shrink. Since 1850 the average temperature has gone up one degree C and that is not our doing. The 30s were extremely warm and that is being denied. Critical scientists have pointed out we can now produce more food and politicians try to silence them.
The cold period took many lives in the north and especially in Finland. All wild pigs were killed in Sweden when people starved. It is very difficult to hunt wild pigs with primitive weapons.
Greta has not studied her forefather. Her teacher was her second mother whn she had mental problems.
The UN has exploited several young girls since 1992. At least three. A british girl, a canadian and Greta. A documentary was planned for her in 2016, but was not aired. She came to the US on the yacht Malizia. What a name. A dirty diesel engine produced electricity and crew members were flown twice over the Atlantic! Now the elite has given her a Tesla. This is somebody elses project.
ABSOLUTE denialist garbage. Arrhenius predicted that temperatures would be increasing more at higher latitudes, which has happened, hence the ice-melt, but, as a typical denialist, you will now tell us that Arctic ice-sheets are growing. The upside down world of denialist fanaticism is horrific enough to contemplate intellectually, but when you recall that it is hindering any efforts to avert an ecological cataclysm, its moral and spiritual horror stands naked and incalculable.
Climate Change by Piers Corbyn
Piers Corbyn explains that the average temperatures in the world is actually declining.
https://yadi.sk/i/9uTLf1oo0z8QgA
ALL the official temperature gauging organisations eg NASA, Hadley etc, and the World Meteorological authorities and the Academies of Science of the planet say that temperatures are rapidly increasing, and the last five years have been the hottest five ever recorded, but one crank, Piers Corbyn says the opposite, so you believe the crank and reject all the real evidence. Really? Why?
Exactly. That is what Svante said after having studied high air levels, but he was not alarmed, on the contrary. He understood what was happening after the small ice age.
In Scandinavia, we have had good reasons to study the climate after the intensive propaganda day after day. Many of our critical scientists are retired and don’t risk their incomes. No oil tycoons in sight. Wise climate scientists in Denmark and in America are still active, but here you can loose your income. What do you think happened when old intellectuals said no to demented politicians and the media? Three years work on youtube was deleted without explanation and without having broken the rules. The channel found another way and came back. You see, google and facebook are being bribed with land for server halls, extremely cheap electricity and a lot of social welfare in this land. The government speaks with them regularly.
We know something is happening in the Arctic and it affects Russia and Scandinavia for good and bad. Reindeer starve in higher temperatures when rains fall and they are denied their food in winter. They can’t penetrate the frozen snow. The good thing is trade is being facilitated along the coast. However, ice breakers are stuck close to the north pole. As you can imagine, this is forbidden news.
Without being an expert, I fear more a cold period Russian scientists have been warning about for years. The sun is not static, it changes its activity, and the Earth has many times changed its course around the sun.
We have proof CO2 shrinks the deserts and that plants profit. You can even see it on google maps. The roots go deeper and they can withstand drought.
Glaciers have been both shrinking and growing for years. Black sooth from coal powerplants cover the Himalayas and attract the suns rays. This is about the environment, not the climate.
Everybody wants a clean environment. The cutting down of the Amazonas is a dangerous human thing. It may affect the rains and as consequence the Gulf stream. Some think that caused the small ice age in the north.
As you may know, some western countries ship their garbage to the third world. That is where the plastic enters the ocean and kills fish and whales.
One of our oldest scientists says the ocean level can’t rise a whole meter. More water assemble around the equator, but not even that is a very big problem, except on low islands, of course. The problem they have is also that sand is known to move with streams and weather. We have such an island and it has changed constantly for ages. I have been there and seen it.
The land is still rising after the big ice age in the north, as much as one meter per century in some places. An old man I met in my long gone youth said he had rowed where there was now dry land in the beginning of the 1900s. When journalists say Scandinavia will drown they are out of their minds.
An interesting thing is where the water comes from. It does expand now, but is that the whole explanation? Floating icebergs don’t affect the sea level. Some icebergs on land grow and kick out calves. My theory, only an amateurs theory, is that water also comes from the earth, as if it expands to the surface. I asked a good scientist about that, but he had no clear answer. Take a look at the spring of Orinoco. Nobody has explained to me how water can flow from a high cliff.
So, Mulga, I know you are no fool, we have both been here for years, so I ask you respectfully to listen to another opinion.
Anon, ‘opinion’ does not come into it. I’ll take science every day rather than disinformation. You see, Anon, when the future of humanity is severely threatened, I find myself rather energised to refute the lies, Removed. Mod. the great force for Evil in the world today – and isn’t that saying something.
How does Greta’s family affect 200 years of climate science, the Laws of Physics and Thermodynamics and the irrefutable evidence of rapid climate destabilisation from around the world?
I categorically deny the denialist label!
I steadfastly and 100% affirm humor, optimism, future scientific discovery of where past “science” was incomplete and erroneous (especially when it comes to “garbage in, garbage out” vastly oversimplified and rigged “computer climate models” by NWO Empire “scientific” whores……………and emotional and spiritual balance, as opposed to bent out of shape muddlebrains who only get one out of 100 of my jokes, because they take their Saviour of the Rest of Us Roles So Ridiculously Seriously………….even while finding themselves in bed with………….Al Gore……..Prince Phillip………….and Angela Hitler Merkel.
Booooo!
Halloween is only 24 days away.
As far as climate trends go………… (and this one WAS very very good to your ego..)…The Warming Consensus One was a good “long run”..but just realize………..A Trend Is Your Friend………..Until The Bend At The End.
This is why you should use STOPS………to minimize your losses……..of sanity, balance…and good humor.
This Café Is So Much FUN!
Pity I wasn’t able to bop in and enjoy the first 3 and a half days of it!
Maybe Café after next!
Ciao, y’all!
Near Term Human Extinction in an ecological Holocaust, one of the major drivers of which is anthropogenic climate destabilisation, is NOT ‘..humour, optimism or emotional and spiritual balance..’. Quite the opposite, actually.
Dirk Müller – “One World”: That’s why the climate is so important to the elites!
24.05.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls07THzlL9M
You can change the subtitles to English
Greta Thunberg sings Swedish Death Metal – 26.09.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kD1zubg3cA
Putin’s Not Impressed By Greta! Why Are Adults Using Children to Promote
Their Politics??? – 03.10.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTQgrjBjRwE
I agree Azorka1861,
Climate change is also important for so many other agenda’s including the NWO. One to note is depopulation. The destruction of our industries is instrumental in creating poverty. And poverty translates to increased mortality. Poverty is being engineered. And we will wave to the Gravy Train as it travels through town, our saviour of the planet.
The world listens to Greta, not because of her credentials but instead her childlike emotions, which appeals to the activists. The climate change agenda is very expensive and it is funded by the same Oligarchs who are in the oil business. They control both sides. James Corbett goes into great detail.
Video – How Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/LzzY5OmFbLx2JA
Video – Why Big Oil Conquered the World
https://yadi.sk/i/R1y2at43Y_mFsg
The Oligarchs such as George Soros, only cares about money. He finances grass roots organisations for the purpose of subversion. He is known as the lord of Chaos.
60 Minutes Interview George Soros, 720p
https://yadi.sk/i/Gj8GT7Lf9AtXTg
Ecuador, being on the Equator, will be heavily affected by anthropogenic climate destabilisation, with massive life loss and, possibly depopulation if agriculture collapses and temperatures exceed the hyperthermia threshold of a wet bulb temperature of 35 degrees Celsius. So Greta is doing great work to help the Ecuadorians, unlike her deranged detractors, and I would bet she has massive support in Ecuador, particularly among the young.
There are some concerning (troubling), red lights flashing among the so called “experts” that a technical recession is on the horizon. Consumer health is about to be tested.
Its been said that an economy can not afford two, back to back, bad 4th quarter consumer spending years. And last years was dismal. The key metric is the 6 weeks (or even 5) starting on Nov 1st to test consumer health.
The problem is that credit card and car loan default rates are rising,(in addition to the already problematic student loan(90 days or greater), default rate). If the rising tide of spending fails to show in a timely fashion, savvy investors will start to sell off the mkt in tender(retail, clothing) areas at first, then a tidal wave of selling to beat the crowd of panicked traders. I dont see how this ends well, perhaps a vision check is due for the speculators.
LaRouche PAC Exposed As Ocasio-Cortez Troller Behind “We Must Eat The Babies” Viral Video
Update 2: Just as we anticipated, the woman who confronted AOC at her town hall in Corona was, in fact, a plant sent by a pro-Trump group.
According to Gizmodo, the ‘let’s eat the babies’ woman has ties to LaRouche PAC, a right-wing group that supports President Trump. The group was founded by former Communist Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche, who died earlier this year at the age of 96, was one of the original American political provocateurs.
LaRouche’s followers took credit for the prank in a Tweet Thursday night, claiming that “sometimes, only satire works.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/woman-aoc-town-hall-insists-we-must-eat-babies-stop-climate-change
The sheer psychopathy of the denialist death-cult is growing to truly lurid heights. In my opinion it must partly be a manifestation of the spiritual malevolence of people who are doing their worst to prevent humanity from saving itself from ecological collapse (all true denialists deny EVERY ecological crisis, reflexively, like Pavlovian canines)and partly panic, as the public increasingly is coming to realise just how dire is our predicament, and, therefore, how evil and destructive the denialist death-cult is.
That’s all we need, another professional prankster.
An eye-opening article just appeared on the website Occidental Observer that deserves much exposure. It is very interesting indeed.
In my hate-article “Booty without Scrutiny,” I looked at the media silence that greeted the knighthood given by Theresa May to Ehud Sheleg, the Israeli treasurer of the British Conservative Party. It’s plain that mainstream journalists in Britain are too frightened to ask some very important questions about the consequences of a foreign national controlling the finances of Britain’s governing party.
Second to Israel, of course
Indeed, mainstream journalists are too frightened to mention Ehud Sheleg’s knighthood at all. However, that silence didn’t extend to the Jewish Chronicle, which published an article saying that the “Tel Aviv-born Tory treasurer” was “surprised but delighted” by his “knighthood from Theresa May.” The article quoted this very significant admission by Sheleg:
Discussing his upbringing he has said: “I was brought up, albeit in Israel, with the sentiment of very strong ties to Britain. In the family of nations, this has to be my favourite one. Second to my homeland, of course.” (Ehud Sheleg, Tel Aviv-born Tory treasurer ‘surprised’ by knighthood from Theresa May, The Jewish Chronicle, 16th September 2019 / 16th Elul 5779)
Sheleg is expressing a vile anti-Semitic “trope” that is explicitly condemned by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) in its list of “contemporary examples of antisemitism.” According to the IHRA, it is anti-Semitic to accuse “Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.” Sheleg has added British citizenship to his natal Israeli citizenship, which makes him a “Jewish citizen” of Britain. And now he openly admits, in Britain’s main Jewish newspaper, that he is “more loyal” to Israel than to Britain.
more here
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/10/05/minority-control-from-the-neolithic-to-the-present/
The malevolent insanity of the ‘antisemitism’ industry is fully revealed here. The industry claims that ALL Jewish human beings think alike (a proposition that is, otherwise, taken as evidence of ‘antisemitism’)in that they have no dual or multiple loyalties. This affronts commonsense, of course, because Jewish human beings are as varied a group as any human collective. Some Jewish human beings have sole loyalty to the birthplace, and none to Israel, some do have loyalties, or affections, for both, or even more if they have moved about or have relatives in multiple countries, and some, plainly, have their prime loyalty to Israel. This utter simplicity is never dared to be expressed, because any opinion in any way contrary to the thuggish thought controllers of the ‘antisemitism’ industry is immediately deemed to be ‘antisemitism’ itself. It is a putrid racket, and one that the bullies of the ‘antisemitism’ industry thoroughly enjoy enforcing on the subservient goyim and ‘self-hating’ Jewish human beings like Chomsky, Finkelstein, Atzmon and others.
Oops – North Korea says talks with US have FAILED, urges Washington to ‘reconsider position’
What I ‘read’ from this, is not good. This tells me that both China and Russia have stepped back from Trump, on a personal level. This North Korea issue was the issue that both China and Russia ‘reserved’ for Trump to make his name, so to speak – Take this, Mr Trump, and go and get your peace award! This was the soft ‘help’ that both China and Russia gave to Trump and supported, while both China and Russia really had the influence here ..
This is not good.
https://www.rt.com/news/470283-north-korea-breaks-talks-us/
Uhm, supporting what I just said …
“China will not interfere in the internal affairs of the US, and we trust that the American people will be able to sort out their own problems,” – China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi
That is a true FU statement.
Kim wanted Trump to pull a rabbit out of Kim’s hat. Now Trump can do a lot of things, but magic tricks are not on the list. And I doubt there was any “reservation(s)” by China or Russia, they are aware of the difficulties of tricks, and treats if the trick somehow backfires.
I disagree Alabama – if you’ve listened to most all the speeches, it was very clear that both the Russians and the Chinese ‘left space’ and ‘invited’ and ‘encouraged’ Trump in his North Korean initiative. It was painfully obvious.
I’m not going to look for a bunch of supportive stuff now, but it is there. The only negative that I ever heard Putin say is to the effect that the North Koreans will ‘eat grass’ before they give up on their weapons. Kim was encouraged and literally given guidance by the Chinese as to how to negotiate – this was in the Chinese press, openly as to their help to support of the peace process and Kim personally. Xi Jinping in his speeches referred to their support for the process and their specific support for North Korea to have the wherewithall to continue. Kim was given a lot of support by the Chinese and Trump was given a lot of space and both Russia and China supported denuclearization, openly. Bear in mind between NK and the US there is still only a ‘cease fire’ agreement, and not anything more than that – no peace has been signed.
Bear in mind that NK is in Chinese backyard with main border with China and with some border with Russia and other border with SK. I saw this initiative go south first because of Bolton, which the North Koreans expressed clearly . Take Bolton away! Trump got his photo opportunity walking across the NK/SK border. So, now Bolton is gone. The previous set of negotiations Bolton was sent to Mongolia (Is that not a joke!). So this was the first set of talks after Exit Bolton and NK declares it a failure. Compare this with the very successful recent visit of Kim to Russia and just before that, he went into China on trade shows to the Chinese. This is all new stuff – NK never did this stuff before.
Kim wanted a fair negotiation, which he did not get. What he was promised is development Trump style for North Korea (let’s just call this hotels and golf courses style and of course extraction of resources . one only had to listen to Trump carefully to learn all of this). But Kim was also supposed to accept the US and become a vassal. Did you really think the US strategy has changed in this one lonely example? Well, Kim would rather eat grass.
All I am saying, is that I see the opportunity for Trump disappear and I see mostly Putin and Xi Jinping pulling back from their personal support. I may be wrong, but this is how I read this failure to negotiate.
I think we have reached a point of no return in this.
Already for years a compromise at stake. NK feels threatened by the massive US Army presence, and the yearly drills at its border. Denuclearisation can be traded for stopping that.
The USA just gives orders, and with their withdrawal from he JCPOA and recently throwing the Kurds under the bus, they have again showed that ‘security guarantees’ and even any agreement with them is null and void.
The world has become a more dangerous place. Soon everybody wants nukes. And drones. München, 2007 revisited…
Cheers, Rob
Jeez, maybe there is a glimmer of hope out there; this is an article by the co-founder of Code Pink about her confrontation with the Israeli First cretin who has been administering the sanctions policy for trump admin against Iran and Venezuela. She resigned shortly after the confrontation! Yes, you read that correctly.
If it takes Code Pink to call out these cretins, I will certainly applaud them. This Israeli Firster’s sanctions to my mind personifies the “Banality of Evil” that is trump’s policy against innocent civilians in Iran and Venezuela!
(Interesting side note, the woman Mandelker was one of the lawyers who assisted Epstein in his slap on the wrist sentence in FL as she was one of the lawyers involved in brokering the Florida deal that allowed child sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein to avoid federal charges. Mossad possibility???)
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/04/why-i-confronted-trumps-architect-us-sanctions-against-iran-and-called-her-weapon
From the article:
Mandelker has made it explicitly clear that her hawkish Iran policy is acting on behalf of Israeli interests, claiming that the JCPOA did nothing to curb Iran’s threat to Israel. She has gone so far as to state that this is the reason “why we have this massive sanctions regime. Because we know Iran is threatening our great partner, Israel” at the Aspen Security Forum this year. She has been referred to as “Israeli born” and a “former Israeli” by right-wing Israeli press, but the Treasury Department has refused to answer inquiries as to whether or not Mandelker is still an Israeli citizen, an important piece of information when U.S. attacks in the region are often the result of Israeli partisans’ interests.
Her resignation is a victory for humanity. May it be the first of many of the warmongers; and then there were none.
Mandelker is obviously a good Talmudist. Killing enemy civilians is a mitzvah, or good deed, and the sanctions have killed Iranians, so she’s in good stead with Yahweh, at least according to the Talmud. Other Jewish human beings, no doubt, would see her as a murderer, as I do.
Cafe without poems ? Let me share with you one :
Thinking on You
by ioan
You tell me morning, you tell me all day long
To think on You and not to do the wrong
You tell me evening, You tell me all night long
Thinking on You, together we’ll be strong
Oh my dear Mom, I’m clinging on a cliff
From morning until evening Your memories I keep
Oh my dear Mom, how could I do forget,
The tenderness of You, which no one else could get !
Thanks ioan – I believe some of the poets are off doing work or something and life is just too fast these days. Something makes me think we’re being kept busy with useless theater. :-)
This poet is not far away, and I’m keeping an eye from the sidelines. However, as you infer, amarynth, after literally hundreds of poems/haiku since February this year, one either hurtles headlong toward burnout, or wisely steps aside. I have put many things on hold in order to provide fresh poems every Cafe, ( which has been a labour of love I might add ), and which now need tending. Love and best wishes to Ioan and yourself…
Allow me to play you a song then Dimitar and all poets. I don’t say thank-you enough, but know that he words of the prophets are written … on the subway walls …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FB9GYkIT3E
Love to the poets.
Brought tears to my eyes, thank you, such is the power of poetry, music, beauty, truth. One for you;
Synthesis; “Ljubov i Smrt” ( Love and Death )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLV2zss83TE
Am off to catch a plane yet again, ciao for now. Have just chaperoned my twelve year old daughter to the
National Baton Twirling Championships here in Australia. Been a heady weekend! In Spirit!
The Cliffhanger
high up above
the valley below,
the cliffhanger hangs
on fingers and toes
the winds up here
seldom abate,
blowing gentle, then strong
both early and late
holding the heart
in gentle embrace,
doing God’s work;
filling with grace
high up above
the valley below,
the cliffhanger hangs
on fingers and toes…
The Cliffhanger
high up above
the valley below,
the cliffhanger hangs
on fingers and toes
the wind in his hair,
the wind in his face;
his heart held aloft
in the gentlest embrace
he’s come here to heal,
away from the crowd,
to scale the sheer stone
and cry out aloud
love laughs in the day
rejoices in light,
but grows in a bed
of pain by night…
high up above
the valley below,
the cliffhanger hangs
on fingers and toes
the wind in his face
the wind in his hair,
his heart held aloft
beyond all despair
goldman sachs sees climate change as a “financial opportunity”. why am i not surprised?
“The latest report identifies urban adaptation responses and initiatives as market solutions and financial opportunities.”
no mention of degraded soils, polluted seas and air, and over-population.
https://theconversation.com/global-bank-urges-cities-to-invest-in-new-infrastructure-to-adapt-to-climate-change-124488
May, Goldman Sachs, the great vampire squid, will exploit anything, including Near Term Human Extinction. There is no ‘adaptation’ to global climate destabilisation as rapid and huge as that we are beginning to experience now. You cannot ‘adapt’ to mass extinction-you just die.
Pipe Guy and Techno Hobo – Improvised Jam (feat Annoying Spruiker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcKSFEtwyLw
Rundle Mall is situated within the CBD of Adelaide, Australia.
Many gold bullion traders in this area, with frequent ‘cultural gold’ in The Mall.
IRAN. an Amazing Country. 4k.伊朗介绍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCWQPzGzvjk
IRAN – Tehran Cafes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rn2Tfuv74o
All and every American should watch and listen (well, its actually reading the subtitles) to this. Short punchy and you will understand …
USSA Heading Same Way as USSR, Collapse Seems Inevitable at This Point!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXqi7qdngp0
Everyday brings new surprises? :Like for example the Swedes:
Technology continues to get closer and closer to our bodies, from the phones in our pockets to the smartwatches on our wrists. Now, for some people, it’s getting under their skin.
In Sweden, a country rich with technological advancement, thousands have had microchips inserted into their hands.
The chips are designed to speed up users’ daily routines and make their lives more convenient — accessing their homes, offices and gyms is as easy as swiping their hands against digital readers.
They also can be used to store emergency contact details, social media profiles or e-tickets for events and rail journeys within Sweden.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin
Marry this with China’s Social Credit System and you have the fulfillment of what is taught in the Book of Revelation chapter 13.
https://www.biohax.tech/
What’s next? Perhaps the arrival of the antichrist itself?
Watch Jerusalem regarding plans to build the 3rd Temple.
I read that one of the (main?) reasons why Israel is so against Iran is because the latter supports the dome of the rock, which stands in the way of the Temple being rebuilt there.
Virtually every Moslem on Earth is protective of the Dome of the Rock.
At a given time, the implantation of microchips will be compulsory, then we will land in 1984 as full reality.
Russian Embassy Sends Note of Protest to State Department Over FBI Questioning of Russian Deputy
https://sputniknews.com/us/201910061076971689-russian-embassy-sends-note-of-protest-to-state-department-over-fbi-questioning-of-russian-deputy/
“”She [Yumasheva] was detained at the airport in New York. She was asked to go to a separate room and an FBI officer, who introduced himself, started to question her, for an hour … Moreover, she was offered to meet with the FBI officer in a different, informal setting and to continue the conversation,” Russian Ambassador to the United States Anatoly Antonov said on Saturday.
He stressed that Russia considers such actions unacceptable.
“We sent a relevant note of protest to the State Department today,” Antonov added, emphasizing that the Russian Embassy is waiting for an explanation.
The Fort Ross Dialogue forum will be held in California on October 6. The forum is a platform for communication between US and Russian parliament members.”
In the first 2 years of their term, the Likud Colonial Trump regime not only has done more than any other previous American regime to consolidate and expand Zionazi/Israeli rule over the USA, they have done more to convert American culture into an extension of Israeli Likud/Jewish mafia organized crime culture.
Russia, Venezuela to Draft Plan on Multi-Level Cooperation For 10 Years
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201910061076972015-russia-venezuela-to-draft-plan-on-multi-level-cooperation-for-10-years—deputy-pm/
“We’ll try to draw up a strategic document for the next intergovernmental commission, which will determine trade, economic, scientific, technical and cultural relations between our countries for a long period, at least until 2030,” Borisov told journalists.
He added that he discussed trade and the process of rebuilding the Venezuelan economy with Maduro on Saturday.
“My visit to Caracas was purely technical in nature,” Borisov said, adding that from what he saw, the situation in Venezuela was stable.
The Venezuelan president stressed after Saturday talks with Borisov that the visit of the Russian deputy prime minister was very important in the wake of Maduro’s talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, held in late September.
Maduro said that he thought it was a “good idea” to work out a cooperation plan for 10 years.
Earlier on Saturday, Borisov announced that Russia and Venezuela were taking their relationship to a new level in the context of US sanctions against Caracas.”
Things may be more complicated than we first think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MN5AqOcXc
Trump speaks at Young Black Leadership Summit 2019
158,783 views •Streamed live on Oct 4, 2019 …………….Yesterday
WTF! The Zionist Empire Rag Failing New York Slimes of Russiagate Fame seems to be losing ground to the Orange Man…………..with these colored folk. What can Massas Sulzbergers Do Now?
Probably what they’ve always been programmed to do, as The Voice of the Big Apple….watch their own “The Bottom Line”:…..very, very closely…..and to HELL with the rest of the country!
Why New York City Opposed Abe Lincoln
By Bill Morgan
Disunion follows the Civil War as it unfolded.
New York may have been the largest city in the Union during the Civil War, but most of its inhabitants were strongly opposed to the conflict – if not downright hostile to the Union’s war aims. During the secession crisis of 1861, the pro-Confederate mayor Fernando Wood even proposed seceding from the Union and establishing itself as an independent city-state, neither for nor against the North or the South.
The antiwar sentiment was mostly commercial in motive: Most people in the city felt that conducting a war against the Southern states would prove to be bad for business. Southerners owed tens of millions of dollars to New York banks, New York shipowners provided Southern cotton producers with the means to get their products to markets and poor New Yorkers believed that the abolition of slavery would flood the city with cheap black labor, putting newly arrived immigrants out of work.
These feelings only grew during the war, and came to a head during the 1864 presidential race. Indeed, few people today realize that Abraham Lincoln was not the popular choice of the people of New York City in either of his presidential runs. He not only failed to carry the city in either election, but in fact lost by landslides. It was only due to his strong Republican support from upstate New York voters that Lincoln managed to carry the state’s 33 electoral votes………….”
https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/why-new-york-city-opposed-abe-lincoln/…
How little “the times” have changed with The Times types of Democrats.
But how much black Americans are freeing themselves from that NYT Mind Control…and Fake News!
Well, new york city has been a s*** magnet for generations.
The Big “Rotten” Apple???
It’s not 100% rotten. There are good people nearly everywhere. But do the worms there do more damage than the decent people can counteract, at this rate??
THAT is the question!
Ditto here on the Left Coast.
Yeah but does it smell like Paris?
Trump called Mitt Romney and A-hole. Guess what? Mitt Romney is an A-hole.
@James re Mittens.
I vaguely recall his Bain Investments had its sticky fingers in both Ukraine and China.
Bain/Romney bought Toys R Us, borrowed HEAVILY to put lipstick on that pig, pumped up the stock price, cashed in their options, watched it collapse. Thanks Mitt.
‘Mightiest army in Mideast’: Iran TROLLS IDF after officer caught slapping soldiers taking cover from Palestinian youths (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/news/470273-idf-officer-slaps-soldiers-video/
The candid moment in which an Israeli officer slapped and scolded his subordinates, after taking cover from stone throwing Palestinian youths, was caught on camera and the footage is being widely shared online.
The Israel Defense Forces officer can be seen rebuking his soldiers after they hid behind a wall to avoid stones hurled by young Palestinians in the West Bank village of Kafr Qaddum on Friday, the Palestinian news agency Sama reports.
“You are sleeping! Wake up!,” he can be angrily heard saying before smacking two soldiers on the top of the head.
The recording has gone viral on social media in Palestine and other parts of the Middle East and has drawn criticism and ridicule upon the IDF. “Is this the mightiest army in the #Mideast?,” Iran’s Press TV asked in a tweet featuring the video.”
amarynth
(Korea talks)
There is nothing new or unusual about DPRK calling trump’s actual negotiating unworkable and halting the negotiations. They see no sense in wasting further time with these israeli likudites and their demands for surrender.
The way trump foreign policy works is he makes a bunch of contradictory statements, then preliminary talks are held. These get massive zionazi-gay press as being a “breakthrough” of sorts. But the israeloamerican hybrid war continues to expand against the victim and when the real negotiations begin, we find out the trump regime position is simply a press for the original, or worse, demands.
This has actually been the practice of israel’s trump quislings throughout. It reflects their likud way of thinking where negotiating means making demands and threats and little else.
If you notice, nothing trump promised while campaigning has come about, except the most extreme likud approved things. Foreign policy became hardline likud “our way or we attack”. Economic policy favours the rich and corporate power even more than before. The rhetoric trump spewed about helping americans regain lost economic security materialized as more government welfare, less regulation and taxes for the rich and their international corporate power structure.
From the beginning it was psywar. Nothing of intelligent substance trump promised was ever intended to be delivered upon. The regime is being used to consolidate extremist, zionazi-nazi control. More censorship of independent media, more government restrictions of people’s freedom and rights. More cops. More repression.
Trump is hailed by the extremist right as a champion for the people, but has actually brought them exactly nothing. He has worsened their position, made their lives less secure and weakened their ability to get recourse.
Thanks vot tak. Yes, I’ve seen the things that you mention and that is the strategy. This is exactly how the China ‘negotiations’ works as well. So, we have to say that the specific strategy that you outline, is the one that is in effect, and will be used every time. My way or the highway, and more and more of the word are saying – OK, we’ll choose the highway. And now we are waiting for the results of this insane strategy because economically it cannot stand at least in my view.
Spot on vot talk!
Basically Trump ‘diplomacy’ comes down to my way or the highway.
These potential victims know full well that these kabuki theatre meetings are a complete waste of time and energy. Even if they did agree to all demands they know that any agreement is not worth the paper it is written on and that at the drop of a hat it could be reneged on almost the moment it is drafted.
Furthermore, they have the recent wrecks to contemplate with the likes of Libya, Syria, Ukraine etc, etc very fresh in their minds. It is probably on their minds too that Washington likes to “pick up small countries and throw them against the wall”… just because they can…Washington is overdue for this …if they wait too long they might lose some of their swagger and even perhaps suffer some profound withdrawal symptoms…besides trouble abroad means jobs, jobs, jobs for the hegemon.
Regards
Col
North Korea blasts ‘SICKENING NEGOTIATIONS’ with US, denounces their ‘hostile policy’ after nuclear talks flop
https://www.rt.com/news/470332-korea-us-sickening-talks/
“Pyongyang went further and accused the US of using the Stockholm talks as a vanity event “to meet its political goal of abusing the DPRK-US dialogue for its domestic political events.” No actual preparations for the talks had been made by the US, the ministry claimed, as Washington simply repeated the same old points it produced before.
goal of abusing the DPRK-US dialogue for its domestic political events.” No actual preparations for the talks had been made by the US, the ministry claimed, as Washington simply repeated the same old points it produced before.
Such an approach makes North Korean leadership “sceptical” about the existence of “political will” in Washington to actually fix the bilateral relations, the ministry said, warning that the country does not seek to further engage into that pointless talks unless the US changes its attitude and stops its “hostile policy.”
“We have no intention to hold such sickening negotiations as what happened this time before the US takes a substantial step to make complete and irreversible withdrawal of the hostile policy toward the DPRK,” the statement reads.
“As we have clearly identified the way for solving problem, the fate of the future DPRK-US dialogue depends on the U.S. attitude, and the end of this year is its deadline.”
Confirms what I wrote above.
Amarynth and Col…’the farmer from NZ’, thanks.
Lendman goes into more detail:
US Hostility Toward North Korean Sovereign Independence. Why Talks Go Nowhere
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-hostility-toward-north-korean-sovereign-independence/5691246
“Nor is it conceivable with the most hawkish ever US regime in power, militantly hostile toward all sovereign independent states, waging wars of aggression in multiple theaters, economic terrorism against Iran and Venezuela, and unwillingness to negotiate with North Korea in good faith.
Candidate Trump vowed to be non-interventionist in relations with other countries.
Instead, he escalated wars he inherited and wages terror war on Iran and Venezuela by other means — intended to crush their economies and immiserate their people, his actions flagrantly illegal.
Bolton is gone. Likeminded right wing extremist Robert O’Brien succeeded him as national security advisor. Militantly hardline Pompeo and his likeminded henchmen remain.
These figures assure continuation of the Trump regime’s all take and no give in dealings with North Korea — leaving things at impasse, likely as long as DJT remains president with little prospect for positive change when new leadership succeeds him.”
The rabid dog is most dangerous in its terminal, hydrophobic, death-throes.
Following a family bbq conversation…..
I am hoping to tap the brains trust/ archiving resource of cafe-istas here…
Does anyone have good links re Obama's kill list Tuesdays?
The extra-judicial murder by drone lists he approved every Tuesday morning?
(Yes…… I can use a search engine…..)
I had some links saved on a now defunct device from the Obama era.
The algorithms seem to have now memoryholed what I am hunting for.
Maybe the collective wisdom/ resources of the cafe can help?
And. Anyone got anything on Trump era? I read that he has increased the killing numbers "anything Obama did….. I can do even more bigly…"?
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Interesting article, I know nothing about the site, cannot find name of author but may be bruni of NYT; I think the title could be applied to almost everyone who works in the trump admin. This may go a long way toward explaining why trump admin cannot attract any talent other than the zionist hacks it currently has on staff.
I think the key point from the article is as follows:
“But the lights continued to burn bright, so Pompeo just put on a clown suit, put away his ethics and finagled a big role under the Big Top.
He had plenty of company in that transformation. It’s the wonder of the Trump era and one of the saddest, scariest themes of the impeachment inquiry so far: the teeming crowd of sellouts and suck-ups who eagerly traded principle for position and are in some cases doubling and tripling down on that transaction, to a point where it’s fair to ask if there was ever much principle to begin with.”
https://www.newsrust.com/2019/10/opinion-how-to-sell-your-soul-to-donald.html
Wow, I just watched something truly astonishing. Where will one find in any Western Hemisphere a love for a politician like this. A politician without any fear of anyone in his own country? Excited for his own people’s happiness? I can’t begin to imagine a politician seeing this video in the West and then going out to his own car with the thought of driving throw the streets waving with excitement for his own country and people? Heck, not even Putin would try anything like this yes?
I got to say I do not understand this? This is truly a first for me to see something like this. Truly a first!!!!
https://youtu.be/aJURNC0e6Ek
Super-hypocritical Canadian politician Trudeau in new scandal, allegedly involving an underage student of his when he was a high school teacher.
Hi milan, Thanks for sharing. This was the missing info I was looking for, for a long time. And it confirms. All wars are Central Banking wars. The common denominator the “Rothschild’s” Correct me if I am wrong. I heard that the Lockerbie Bombing of PanAM103 was a CIA false flag event for the purposes carried out. If anyone has reference information pertaining to the Rothschild’s involvement of the Russian revolution and execution of the Romanov family I am interested to know? I have heard it was the Rothschild’s. Thanks again for the info on Libya.
@ mike
All I can tell you about the Roth’s and Britain is Britain is suffering from a great deal of strange weather yes? Add to this the strange crop circles and especially the one with the encoded message from a computer disk and an alien face lol here: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/articles/01102015/01102015.html
I’m left reeling with questions about what Christ said :
“there will be great signs from heaven!!!!”
Anyone with the most basic of biblical knowledge can certainly see the connotations to biblical scripture in these words:
“Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much pain but still time. There is good out there. We oppose deception. Conduit closing.”
This is astounding and miraculous and for God to poke fun is good because for me the words
“much pain but still time” means only one thing really judgment is forthcoming and time is precious!!!!!! Yes? What strange and inexplicable weather she is suffering from. Well, inexplicable no, the bible again explains it all really.
I would further add those trumpet sounds going off quite strangely in the atmosphere is a warning of impending trouble and danger it really is. Those who know about the history of the shofar would understand this!
https://youtu.be/-dIG3sWhyuc
Thanks for the links, I personally think crop circles are a result of military direct energy machines and the crop circles are a result of their tests and the source kept secret to keep us guessing. The atmospheric noise could also be military experimentation. Maybe some future atmospheric weapon if it is ramped up. Imagine a song that you hated that was that loud. It could win wars. I think it is related to HAARP.
PanAM 103 was an Iranian hit, in vengeance for the shooting-down of the Iranian Airbus by the USS Vincennes. A bomb inside a radio was smuggled on board by the PFLP in Lebanon, having infiltrated a US DEA drug-smuggling sting operation. Thus the drug mule’s baggage went unchecked. Blaming Libya was a total lie.
Russia plans to initiate creation of ‘grain OPEC’
https://tass.com/economy/1081655
What a great idea! I’ve not heard this suggested before. Seems long overdue.
Or a multipolar version of a terrible idea albeit a logical response (Russian barons make nice with Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill)
https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html
In the Idiot The slightly drunk counselor Lebedev calls the networks of railways the star ‘wormwood’ fallen to earth poisoning the ‘waters of life’ he notes that the same networks bringing bread can “coldly exclude”
When ever words like ‘stability’ –think justification for the Federal Reserve– are bandied about a con job likely is in progress.
Or maybe my brain is feverish today.
Or as Mao once said, “Not all farts from Moscow smell good.” Come to think of it China wasn’t listed in the group of of “grain exporters.” To be sure, they are the largest consumer.
Just a couple random thoughts. I think the agri-food industry has hit maximum evil already, so, to me, it’s unlikely that a new organization is required to remove any obstacles. I think Russia knows what ‘stability’ means and uses it in a different context (like to mean stability – they are about to become the world’s largest grain producer and exporter as well, right?)
Farmers are bankrupted the world over due to commodity pricing. India should join this group too.
Man, we need a white paper. Somewhere in the mix is the ravages of fiat currency, and the transition away from the US Dollar.
WongKong … October 4, 2019 …
… (Removed language,MOD) with US accent is amused …
10月4日晚上凌晨時分實施蒙面法，香港暴徒嚴重破壞大車🔥🔥🔥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN9sdewjZHs
Patricia JANEČKOVÁ: “Les oiseaux dans la charmille” (Jacques Offenbach – Les contes d’ Hoffmann)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVUpKIFHqZk&list=RDjgpJVI3tDbY&index=4
Nice video, enjoy it.
See my comment above on this incident for background.
Russian Consulate to Monitor Plane Transfer of Lawmaker Yumasheva After FBI Incident
https://sputniknews.com/us/201910071076976163-russian-consulate-to-monitor-plane-transfer-of-lawmaker-yumasheva-after-fbi-incident/
“On Sunday, Antonov announced that Yumasheva had been detained at the airport in New York, and an FBI officer asked her “obscure and unacceptable questions” for an hour, and then offered to continue the conversation in an “informal setting.”
“We have asked our Consulate General (in New York) to accompany Inga [Yumasheva] during her transfer from the San Francisco – New York domestic flight to the international New York – Moscow flight. We hope that everything goes well,” Antonov said on Sunday on the margins of the Fort Ross forum.”
These extraordinary measures by the Russians were necessary to protect their lawmaker due to trump’s peculiar ideas of how to have “better relations” with Russia, no doubt.
The US-Iran silent war is transformed into an “Iraq uprising”- Elijah J. Magnier: @ejmalrai By Elijah J. Magnier/
EXTRACTS:
… the ongoing US-Iran war is acutely affecting the whole region. This is now evident in Iraq where more than 105 people have been killed and thousands wounded in the course of demonstrations that engulfed the capital Baghdad and southern Shia cities ……
Iraq has special status due to its position, since the 2003 US occupation of the country, as both an Iranian and as a US ally. Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi …..(is) seeking to keep Iraq as a balancing point between all allies and neighbouring countries, and to prevent Mesopotamia from becoming a battlefield for conflicts between the US and Iran or Saudi Arabia and Iran.
….. the deterioration of the domestic economic situation in Iraq has pushed the country into a situation comparable to that of those Middle Eastern countries who were hit by the so-called “Arab Spring”. Fuelled by real grievances including lack of job opportunities and severe corruption, domestic uprisings were manipulated by hostile foreign manipulation for purposes of regime change; these efforts have been ongoing in Syria since 2011.
Baghdad believes that foreign and regional countries took advantage of the justified demands of the population to implement their own agenda, with disastrous consequences for the countries in question.
Sources within the office of the Iraqi Prime Minister said the recent demonstrations were already planned a couple of months ago.
Baghdad was working to try and ease the situation in the country, particularly since the demands of the population are legitimate.
The Prime Minister has inherited the corrupt system that has developed since 2003; hundreds of billions of dollars have been diverted into the pockets of corrupt politicians. Moreover, the war on terror used not only all the country’s resources but forced Iraq to borrow billions of dollars for the reconstruction of the security forces and other basic needs.
The latest demonstrations were supposed to be peaceful and legitimate because people have the right to express their discontent, concerns and frustration. However, the course of events showed a different objective: 8 members of the security forces were killed along with tens of civilians and many government and party buildings were set on fire and completely destroyed. This sort of behaviour has misdirected the real grievances of the population onto a disastrous course: creating chaos in the country.
Who benefits from the disarray in Iraq?”
The unrest in Iraqi cities coincides with an assassination attempt against Iran’s Soleimani. Sources believe that the “assassination attempt against the commander of the Iranian IRGC-Quds Brigade Qassem Soleimani is not a coincidence but related to events in Iraq. Soleimani was in Iraq during the selection of the key leaders of the country. He has a lot of influence, like the Americans who have their own people. If Soleimani is removed, those who may have been behind the recent unrest may think it will create enough confusion in Iraq and Iran, allowing room for a possible coup d’état carried out by military or encouraged by foreign forces, Saudi Arabia and the US in this case. Killing Soleimani, in the minds of foreign actors, could lead to chaos, leading to a reduction of Iranian influence in Iraq”, said the sources.
The recent decisions of Abdel Mahdi made him extremely unpopular with the US.
He has declared Israel responsible for the destruction of the five warehouses of the Iraqi security forces, Hashd al-Shaabi, and the killing of one commander Background/analysis of “colorful” unrest in Iraq:
Bro – a note for you and a question.
Serious question. If I debunk the Craig Wright video that you posted on the Orthodox Faith discussion, would you take a look at it? Or will I be wasting my time? I don’t want to use time for this if you are not interested or for joke purposes or such things … ?
No, I wish you would!
But if I answer it will you seriously address every chapter of A Short History of Bitcoin Myths?…as they are posted.
You’d be the first to argue…agree or say ……anything….so we are dismally failing in our joint endeavor to recruit to the Cryptoverse…..we must admit!
This is a nice cool place with a very agreeable climate..(I just love the way it changes!)..but I must confess that I can’t cool my heels here 24/7 like some Lucky Vineyarders….so I don’t catch every single comment by every person…and miss some days’ comments completely!
In case 2-3 days go by without a reply, please alert me to the neglected proof via email….and if that is ignored, unread………… feel free to denounce me as a Craven and Cowardly Craigtard…(and Wrightfully so!) .publicly!
Rumors are flying around that the second whistleblower is actually Bolton – but only rumors at this stage, so, consider this as gossiping at this stage. But it makes sense no?
Also, Trump must give his personal and corporate tax returns, but now he is appealing this. This is where he is very vulnerable and anything can be cooked up. They really really want to take him out, or, this is grand theater. But for me the prospect of Pence is just too horrible to contemplate. Following Trump’s tweetstream, he has no morals, neither ethics in my view. He is now again saying the US must retreat from Syria .. but he had a lot of time to do just that. He is really working hard on his twitter to keep his base – and anything will do. He will make any promise. How is Nuttyyahoo doing? Do they have a government yet?
Generally bad stuff and a massive failure of governance for everyone involved. I cannot choose who is the worst in the bunch – they all look dirty to me, just from different perspectives.
Moonofalabama calls the happenings in Iraq another U.S. Led Coup Attempt. I’ve not had time to even look at that.
One would think with all these failures of governance somebody would just forget to go back to war.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/the-us-led-coup-attempt-in-iraq-may-further-weaken-that-country.html
Well, Bolton surely fits the profile…
I haven’t read yet that the USA troops will be withdrawn from Syria altogether. My guess is still some ‘relocation’.
Let’s not get too enthousiastic yet about the possible departure of Netanyahu, how despicable he is. He has two slight advantages for the outside world over his two competitors (Gantz and Lieberman): he is somewhat less into military adventures, other than usable in the IDF he brags a lot, and is corrupt as hell – so anyone can buy him.
But it looks like a Mexican stand-off – it may result in new elections.
Cheers, Rob
Romans and countrymen, lend me your ears for what is probably the belly laugh of the day.
This is *not* a parody twitter account of Mr Trump. He really said this, in a tweet, just a little while ago. I put the bold
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago
As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over…
….the captured ISIS fighters and families. The U.S. has done far more than anyone could have ever expected, including the capture of 100% of the ISIS Caliphate. It is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory. THE USA IS GREAT!
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end of tweet ..
Great and Unmatched Wisdom – rotflmao
I cannot even understand the rest of that tweet because there is coffee all over my keyboard.
We are warned of false prophets. One church says Greta is almost like the second coming of the Lord. She is not, but those behind her are false prophets and that church is in danger. Climate, weather and environment are not the same thing. We need to save the suffering environment. That is all we are capable of doing and it must be done, but we are not climate masters. Especially not in a solar system that is not as newtonian as we thought.
It all started with the club of Rome perhaps before infesting the UN. For some 50 years we have seen normal variations (freezing harbours on Iceland surprised us). We need at least 30 years, probably 100 years, before we can be sure the climate has changed. IPPC has not everything wrong, but reports selectively. What is missing is most interesting, according to some critical scientists.
Putin signed the Paris accord this summer and Greta is invited to speak in the duma in Moscow. This is typical Putin. He balances. I have only heard him say he knows something happens in the Arctic, not all over the world.
Children have been exploited several times. They must be young and they must be girls. Then they are replaced. Children come, children go, but the elite is always there and no friend of us.
Severn Cullis-Suzuki at Rio Summit 1992
https://youtu.be/oJJGuIZVfLM
2012:
A Date with History: 17 yr old Brittany Trilford addresses world leaders at the UN Earth Summit
https://youtu.be/karQQb-B8Uk
The global climate is rapidly destabilising, after the greatest forcing of increased atmospheric greenhouse gases, caused by human activities, for at least 55 million years. Such forcings in the past have caused extinction events through ‘hot-house Earth’ conditions, including four of the major ones. But this forcing is bigger and more rapid than them all. So, barring a miracle, we are going to lose our ‘civilization’ and probably our species, this century. and no amount of unscientific, ideologically fanatical, denialism is going to change that.
It’s alright. We can seek refuge in northern Russia in winter.
While we warm up Mars and even colder planets in other star systems ….the same way!
Don’t worry, Be Happy!
Seven billion people in northern Russia? Really? Or are you volunteering to give up your place?
Dear Mr. Putin, President of the Russian Federation
Happy Birthday, all the best and good health.
Уважаемый Господин Путин, Президент Российской Федерации
С Днем Рождения, всего наилучшего и крепкого здоровья.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a4DnEWXMHM
A remarkable audio clip from the coup in Kiev in 2014 with Nuland …and Pyatt…and Biden working their magic (and glue for the coup). 5 minutes.
American values=Banality of Evil
Sickening but it needs remembering and reminding as to what the Obama (and biden) admin was all about in this criminal enterprise:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/leaked-obama-officials-including-ambassador-discuss-toppling-ukrainian-government-and-replacing-officials-with-bidens-approval-but-this-was-ok-according-to-media/
So the signature of a color rev revealed: snipers.
Item at Moon of Alabama and here:
https://www.france24.com/en/20191006-snipers-iraq-protests-poverty-unemployment-death-toll
Snipers- as both sides blame the other for the violence and deaths.
Another account re snipers:
https://wgntv.com/2019/10/06/iraq-blames-malicious-hands-as-toll-from-unrest-tops-100/
https://journal-neo.org/2019/10/07/who-s-been-trying-to-destabilize-iraq/
……. There is little doubt that by sabotaging this Shia pilgrimage those forces behind the protests will increase the frustration of the populations of Iraq and Iran.
But this is precisely what certain anti-Iranian forces are aspiring to achieve, primarily in the US and Israel, in order to increase the scale of their military operations in Iraq, while Baghdad is busy dealing with the unrest.
Valery Kulikov, expert politologist, exclusively for New Eastern Outlook.
Giraldi nails it in this article, which discusses the Israel firster who just resigned from Dept of Treasury position of administering the vicious program of sanctions; this is news previously reported but what I found quite disturbing but not surprising was comment #3 about “dual loyalty” zionist Jews working in and for the US Govt but having no hesitation about stating that their first loyalty was to Israel:
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/are-there-israelis-in-the-u-s-government/#comments
The Zionazis directly control the upper reaches of the US Treasury and Justice Departments, and are the thugs behind much of the USA’s economic sanctions bullying and murder. These swine just put more sanctions on China, over the ‘imprisoned Uighurs’ Big Lie, but it is just shooting themselves in the foot. The Chinese will just make their own chips etc, rather than buying them from the USA, and will soon make better ones. However, you can bet that the tribe in Israel will cash in on this business opportunity created by the brethren in the US colony, and sell the technology required to the Chinese, just as they sold the secrets stolen by Pollard to the ChiComms.
I only know Aaron Mate from his appearances as a political commentator (not comedian) on the Jimmy Dore Show.
He may be a cure for “progressive” friends who are not rabid fake left Russophobes, foaming at the mouth with TDS. Like Dore you won’t catch him wearing a MAGA hat.
I watched this one tonight, but caught glimpses of several others….and .he and Max..seem reasonable….anti-Zionist, anti-regime change………kind of a breath of fresh air…so far:
Trump meddled in Ukraine, and he’s not alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACMfC4w8_NU
In other words the known DETAILS of the other “Democrat” side are orders of magnitude more outrageous compared to…….well…to practically nothing…face it….anti-Trumpers.
The comments are most interesting………………….ALL over the political spectrum
Lots of details on the Neocons and Obama-Biden coup -plotting in the Ukraine and using it as a launching pad for a coup in the USA…but the one in Kiev is not glossed over.
The Channel is called the Greyzone and it looks like they cover Syria and lots else decently and in detail.
So far. Tell me please if you catch them screwing up some issue royally…..like falling for the Central Bankers’ Climate Change HOAX to provide the Fascist Control For the Forced Depopulation of Billions.
Worth looking into their work further. So many more people at least trying to fill the Truth Void…….So LIttle Time To Know Them ALL!