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Paul Craig Roberts featured an article from Russia Insider saying that 9 out of 10 Jews are concerned about anti-Semitism and the effects of what I can call nothing other than predation. Yes, it is time to acknowledge the harm done as a result of Jewish predation that has resulted in Jewish paranoia, that jas resulted in more Jewish predation. Yes. It is time to call a spade a spade. It cannot be denied or ignored or attributed to coincidence any longer. 36% of billionaires are Jewish, 70%of American Jews are millionaires. Jews own and dominate the banking sector, media, and tech sector. Now Jeff Bezos is making sure that everyones sex is kosher, having people in India monitor sex just to make sure that it is kosher, and that they are doing it correctly. All tech companies now have bases in Israel. Police are sent to Israel for “training”. Mark Zuckerberg wants to create his very own supreme court. It is this atrocious, gluttonous, predatory behavior that is the cause of anti-Semitism, in addition to dominating U.S. policy writing where an American can orgsnize a boycott against any and every American company, but end up in prison for supporting BDS, boycott, divest, sanction, against Israel and Israeli companies. In fairness and disclosure, censorious Twitter referred to as Twittler by some, which shut my Twitter account down, is owned by Catholic Jack Dorsey.
Part of the situation is due to the fact that contrary to the myth of meritocracy and social mobility, to an extent people are “born into” positions of power. Consider also the Pareto principle. On the other hand as Kevin MacDonald has noted they promote their own, and maintain “us (exclusive) /them” group boundaries.
I am aware of the Pareto principle, however, the fact that it exists, is not a justification for it. As far as I know, and I may be wrong on this, but I do not believe that it exists in native American and Inuit cultures.
Andrea, do you think your twitter was shut down because of the things you were saying or for violation of their terms of agreement? (breaking minor rules that most people don’t understand: aggressive following, cross tweeting, stuff like that) Did they give you a reason or just shut you down?
Random Person,
No. I was not violating any rules. I suspect that they were convinced that I was Russian, then Iranian, then Venezuelan, and wanted to ” protect” the internet from “Russian, Iranian, and Venezuelan agents”.
I do not fall into any of those categories, it was strictly an attempt to silence me. It was shut down long after I stopped tweeting resulting from another hack. They are just stubborn and wrong fascists with no legitimate excuse for their agendas.
The sccount was shut down when Twitter annonuced that they had purged many accounts for being Venezuelan bots. This is pretty funny, consideting that I am not a bot or Venezuelan. I know that I am not a bot, because I can prove it by choosing all of the street signs in a photograph, and because I am a person.
I hate Microsoft, Google and Facebook. They have no right to interfere and shape forum opinions to match their own agenda. They are CIA controlled. I have moved to Linux and Yandex as a start.
I replaced Google with DuckDuckGo. I replaced Microsoft with Apple. I have yet to find a replacement for Facebook.
Duckduckgo is American, so it falls under the Patriot Act. So does Apple.
I use Linux, and as search engines startpage and yandex. I have nothing with social media, but when you are searching for an alternative for Facebook, try VKontakte: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_(service) .
Cheers, Rob
Rob,
Switching to Yandex and Linux will not help because internet service providers and hardware make it pointless, like patching a couple of holes in a sieve.
Mike,
They are CIA controlled because they are OPM ( other people’s money) addicts and would cease to exist without gargantuan defense contracts and are forced into justifying their predation by searching for imaginary dragons to be sleighed. That means all of us! It also means countries all over the world! They are gulity of treason for endangering and threatenning the sovereign and the rights and property of the sovereign, We the People!
It is why they hate Julian Assange! Vampire capitalist Peter Thiel claims to be a Libertarian. He also wants to shut down Wikileaks and prosecute Assange. A Libertaian that opposes 1st and 4th amendment rights is as ludicrous as a Democrat that approves election rigging, or a Republican that approves of trillion defense budgets and a privately owned central bank resulting in a bank tax on citizens!
I saw Chomsky give a fine definition of Libertarianism-private tyranny.
I didn’t see it. That is really surprising though, since tyranny is the antithesis of liberty.
Libertarians do not believe in liberty for all-just for themselves.
Mulga,
That is not true. That may apply to some, like Peter Thiel for example, but not all.
Switching to Yandex and Linux will not help because internet service providers and other hardware make it pointless.
Andrea:
You know, Linux Mint 17-18 on an old-school “obsolete” Lenovo from 2008 ain’t half bad.
The ISS runs on them.
You might want to give it a try. $150 on Ebay will get you a T520 with the OS installed.
It’s at least fun to do what you want without M$oft and perfidious Apple products. I’d suggest giving it a go, life’s too short, etc.
Internal exile USA,
Why bother though, when all hardware, software. Internet service providers, or websites that are vistited have information stored on servers about visitors? To prevent hacking? They can still be hacked. Not into technology much, but I do have common sense and am aware of things taking place.
Nah, you’re totally right. I didn’t mean it that way. I was saying that if you want a computer to work on, meaning writing or recording music or creating something somehow, Linux is a pretty fun way to do it. I agree, we are totally tracked everywhere on the internet.
Also, lots of free software comes with a Linux Mint download, you will never have to suffer M$oft “Office” ever again… There is a bright side, I tell you. ;-)
Internal Exile USA,
Oh. Ok, Thanks. I have very little patience with technology. Learning about it bores me to tears, and since I don’t have the patience to learn about it, I try to stay away from the latest fads. I see what you mean about the free software though, definitely an advantage!
I may quote Voltaire on too many occasions but it is usually regarding the “Jewish Question”.
“To learn who rules over you simply see who you are not allowed to criticize”. In the recent past I have taken interest in the history of “Eurasia” and the area between the Black and Caspian Seas. The Khazar “Empire” figures into much of what took place in what we call Eastern Europe; Magyars, Bulgars, etc. The Khazars acted as a sort of blockage against the Muslims entering that area. The Khazars were pagan (I read “Phallic worship”) and have been called Mongol-Turks. They were very warlike, aggressive , intelligent, and mercenary. My reading gave me the impression that they were intelligent IQ wise because they didn’t allow their “dummies” to have kids.
At some point they were forced to choose a religion. The Old Testament seemed to fit their “values” so they became “Jews”. The “Kol Nidre” (I think that is the spelling) comes to mind. That has to do with reneging on contracts with “non Jews”, the Goy.
So, here’s where I’m going. They are NOT what I would think of as the “historic Jewish tribe” of antiquity. That’s a whole different gene pool. Semitic is a language and not necessarily a gene pool. When I hear the term “anti-semitism” in regard to Western “Jews” I cringe at the audacity. No one publicly challenges it.
The “Pale” was where the “Jews” resided in a “ghetto” separated from the general populations. When you take European cruise/tours as I have, the “Jewish Quarter” is usually part of the scheduled stops. I now understand the term “beyond the Pale”.
There was a Jewish intellectual in France, Bernard Lazare, in the late 19th century, who was a dedicated opponent of Judeophobia and an early supporter of Dreyfuss. He was, however, no fool. He wrote, in his ‘Antisemitism: Its History and Causes’,
‘Wherever the Jews settled after ceasing to be a nation ready to defend its liberty and independence, one observes the development of antisemitism, or rather anti-Judaism; for antisemitism is an ill-chosen word, which has its raison d’etre only in our day, when it sought to broaden this strife between the Jew and the Christians by supplying it with a philosophy and a metaphysical, rather than a material reason. If this hostility, this repugnance had been shown towards the Jews at one time or in one country only, it would be easy to account for the local causes of this sentiment. But this race has been the object of hatred with all the nations amidst whom it ever settled. Inasmuch as the enemies of the Jews belonged to divers races, as they dwelled far apart from one another, were ruled by different laws and governed by opposite principles; as they had not the same customs and differed in spirit from one another, so that they could not possibly judge alike of any subject, it must needs be that the general causes of antisemitism have always resided in Israel itself, and not in those who antagonised it’.
By ‘Israel’ Lazare meant the Jews, but it is quite true today of Israel, the State. Not all Jewish human beings cause this animus towards their tribe, but some certainly do. And the Jews have lived in peace and relative comity in various places, like Andalucia, Mesopotamia, etc, for long periods, but only, I would say, where strong authority repressed their chauvinistic, exploitative and supremacist inclinations, in return for protection from others. Even here there were occasional outbursts of inter-communal violence, but that is pretty true of most human groupings.
Unfortunately today we have the worst traits of Judaism and Jewish exceptionalism and triumphalism in action. Jewish human beings control the West, through financial power, mediated through political and media assets, and the increasing arrogance, nepotism and sheer criminality of the Epsteins, Weinsteins and Madoffs of this world, plus the exertions of Jewish slum-lords, human organ traffickers, sex traffickers, blood diamond traffickers, banksters, pay-day lender, binary options fraudsters, arms traffickers, pornographers etc and their tribal protectors, have put all the Jewish human beings in bad repute with many. Yet, coincidentally, these malign manifestations of elements of the Jewish communities must never be mentioned, because to do so is proof of ‘antisemitism’. Thus the worst Jewish human beings, who are but a fraction of the whole, enjoy an impunity that they, naturally, exploit, as Israel exploits its impunity to commit every crime against humanity imaginable. We are only allowed to celebrate (well, we MUST join in their self-adoration)of the considerable beneficial achievements of the best of the Jewish human beings, although exaggerating Jewish achievements is a veritable cottage industry. It is not a healthy situation, and one that would redound badly on Israel and Jewry, eventually, but other factors, like the ecological Holocaust and the fall of the US Empire will render it all pretty inconsequential soon enough.
what is your point Andrea?
Dave Salmond,
When Isrsael and the international Jewish community, particularly in America confess that they have rigged everything in their favor and at everyone elses expense, and stop the predatory, insane, obscene, corrupt, violent behavior and make concessions, then perhaps they can be forgiven.
The international Jewish community did not simply say, ok Nazis and Germany, we forgive you. They made a very long list of demands that they expected to be met.
When they are controlling everything, which they are, and everything is terrible, corrupt, violent, predatory, insane, amd obscene, which it is, they must stop and confess and make concessions.
The demands never cease. To even hesitate to comply is sign that you are ‘antisemitic’. It’s a fantastic racket, now being mobilised (check the Guardian today and its two alpha Zionazi thugs, Cohen and Freedland)to ensure that Corbyn is defeated and Johnson elected in the UK.
Mulga,
It is why I decided to break the silence and speak out, and speak directly about it. Things have spun out of control the last few years as far as censorship. To be silent about it is to consent to it in many ways.
When Isrsael and the international Jewish community, particularly in America confess that they have rigged everything in their favor and at everyone elses expense, and stop the predatory, insane, obscene, corrupt, violent behavior and make concessions, then perhaps they can be forgiven.
The international Jewish community did not simply say, ok Nazis and Germany, we forgive you. They made a very long list of demands that they expected to be met.
When they are controlling everything, which they are, and everything is terrible, corrupt, violent, predatory, insane, amd onscene, which it is, they must stop and confess and make concessions.
Jack Dorsey is a Catholic in name only, in fact he’s a liberal culture of death atheist.
Did every one get thier ‘rainbow poppy’? Dessicration!
I read that it was a hoax:
https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/11/08/upset-about-the-rainbow-poppy-youve-been-duped-by-fake-news/
Showed up front page on a local daily………………..ouch, lmao………….too funny, great gag, if true.
I always wear a white poppy, for the conscientious objectors.
Can’t go wrong there. Haha. May I ask what Mulga means? Is it a twist on MAGA, like stop focussing on Ukraine make Ukraine less great again? Not meaning that you oppose Ukraines well being, just the path that NATO is on with it?
Mulga is a tree, possessed of particularly dense and hard wood. It grows in the arid regions of Austfailia.
It’s a beautiful life, isn’t it ? the best cooks in the world wouldn’t be capable of preparing such a rich variety of daily meals, satisfying your “needs” for sadness and fun. Melancholic dreamers like myself, are but doomed to fail on reaching the funny part of it. Anyway, Life is the best cook :
When the Night is Falling
by ioan
When the night is falling like blue velvet on your face
When everything gets boring and you feel an empty space,
Your life has now arrived at the gates of no one’s land
Your father and your mother, can no more take your hand,
What can you hope for, my little boy,
You cannot cry, not anymore
Your tears are drying up,
You’re like a fish, trapped on the shore…
When the night is falling like blue velvet on your face
When every day is showing, that you fall from heaven’s grace,
Your life has now arrived at the windy, foggy stream
Your father and your mother, never wanted you to dream !
What can you hope for, my little boy,
You cannot run, not even swim
Your fears are coming up,
You’re like a ghost who failed to win…
When the night is falling like blue velvet on your face
When nobody is calling, asking you about your pace,
Your life has now arrived at the place of great unknown
Your father and your mother, have left you now alone,
What can you hope for, my little boy,
You cannot leave, you are in sight
Your dreams are coming true,
You’re like a lamb who’s gonna fight…
When the night is falling like blue velvet on your face
When everything is over, you’ll find your resting days,
Your life has now arrived at the place of love and truth
Your father and your mother, are there, again, with you !
-But whom against are you fighting sir ? I’m fighting against the darkness, against those who are keeping us in darkness, against the tabu’s, against the principals of this and other worlds, against principalities of this and other worlds, against prolonged and preposterous lies which persist at nausea, against the seen and unseen traps laid down everywhere, mostly where you don’t expect, against the lack of understanding and perseverance in theft and power, against the bad will and lack of love with compassion. I let you continue according to your experiences…
Waiting
The beggar’s cup is empty
Waiting to be filled.
The sow is fat and heavy
Waiting to be killed.
The hand lies rough and ready
Waiting to be skilled.
The heart lies beating steady
Waiting to be thrilled.
The earth is deep and rich
waiting to be tilled.
The sheaves of wheat lie gathered
Waiting to be milled.
The people stand in ruins
Waiting to rebuild.
The dream it lies in hope
Waiting to be fulfilled.
The mind it must surrender
Waiting to be instilled.
The soul it must remember
For that’s the way God willed.
Dimitar-I don’t know whether you are a poet who has sought refuge in work,or a worker who has found refuge in poetry-anyway,whichever way-you are good at it.Thank you.
Lol! Thank you, Dave, always nice to hear from you. A humble poet/worker perhaps. I believe both strains are within all of us. The poetic form is difficult, takes a lot of staying power. But the rewards are great. Apart from the occasional good poem, one learns a lot about one’s self.
Velvet, little boy – my mind flies off to this – Alanna Myles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT4d1LQy4es
Mississippi in the middle of a dry spell
Jimmy Rodgers on the Victrola up high
Mama’s dancin’ with baby on her shoulder
The sun is settin’ like molasses in the sky
The boy could sing, knew how to move ev’rything
Always wanting more, he’d leave you longing for
Black velvet and that little boy smile
Black velvet with that slow southern style
A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
Black velvet if you please
Up in Memphis the music’s like a heat wave
White Lightnin’ bound to drive you wild
Mama’s baby’s in the heart of ev’ry school girl
“Love Me Tender” leaves ’em cryin’ in the aisle
The way he moved, it was a sin, so sweet and true
Always wanting more, he’d leave you longing for
Black velvet and that little boy smile
Black velvet and that slow southern style
A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
Black velvet if you please
Ev’ry word of ev’ry song that he sang was for you
In a flash he was gone, it happened so soon
What could you do?
Black velvet and that little boy smile
Black velvet in that slow southern style
A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
Black velvet if you please
Black velvet and that little boy smile
Black velvet in that slow southern style
A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
Black velvet if you please
If you please
If you please
If you please
A magnificent new cathedral to honor the Russian Armed Forces is being built on the outskirts of Moscow.It’s hoped to be finished by Victory Day 2020.Here is an article with the design,and a video from RT showing work on it moving forward:
https://royalrussia.news/2018/09/24/worlds-third-tallest-orthodox-cathedral-to-be-built-for-russias-armed-forces-near-moscow/
https://www.rt.com/russia/472948-russian-military-temple-dome/
True and a magnificent new Orthodox Cathedral is being built with government money in Romania too. Isn’t that a wonderful development!
Lula is Free – Very good news.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Lula-is-Free-20191108-0009.html
Now I hope we can see the same news about Julian Assange soon.
Great news amarynth!!
Tragically, I can’t imagine Assange ever being let out alive.
His incarceration remains the single most salient sign yet that humanity’s degeneration into an Orwellian nightmare is all but complete.
Trump and Morrison’s complicity is as revealing as it is disgraceful. This is simply business as usual for both the Hegemon and the pathetic groveling vassal.
This one instance [Assange] alone is crystal clear evidence that both ‘leaders’ pay ultimate homage to the establishment and don’t give a tinkers for either honest journalism or freedom of speech.
It’s official, we now reward the perpetrators of mass murder on a global scale with riches and high office but murder or jail the brave souls who have the courage and the conviction to document these crimes.
Sad times indeed
Col
It’s right up Morrison’s street. He’s a sadistic thug, in my opinion at least, and he sees persecuting the weak and defenceless as a religious observation. Jesus wept, as they say.
That is great.
Maybe Latin America is breaking free of its shackles.
Bolivia says no. Latin America will never be free as long as the Real Evil Empire persists in creating, training, financing and supporting in every way, those fascist compradores who have terrorised their own people for generations, in order to please the monsters in Thanatopolis DC, and be well (but not too well)rewarded for it.
captured in passing;
just an ordinary day-
a picture postcard
Kremlin on Wikipedia: No Talk of Banning Website, Credible Alternative Needed
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201911081077255848-kremlin-on-wikipedia-no-talk-of-banning-website-credible-alternative-needed/
“Russian President Vladimir Putin referred to the fact that the information on Wikipedia is not always adequately verified, there has been no talk of blocking the website, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.
“What the president and some other speakers meant was that, with all due respect, the information published and regularly updated in Wikipedia is not guaranteed by anyone. Nobody guarantees that it is correct and or credible. The president meant that we need to create a source of encyclopedic knowledge with guaranteed credibility accessible, and that would be the Great Russian Encyclopedia. There is no talk of any bans, any access restrictions for Wikipedia, and there can be no talk of anything like that,” Peskov told reporters.
Earlier in September, it was reported that almost 1.7 billion rubles would be allocated for the creation of a Russian analogue of Wikipedia in 2020-2022. The Great Russian Encyclopedia publishing house is expected to receive the corresponding subsidy. This was mentioned in the appendix to the draft law: “On the federal budget for 2020 and the planning period 2021 and 2022”.
Wikipedia is the Jewish Mafia’s point of view, and therefore global consensus reality, and therefore THE truth. It is that simple.
In other words, another long overdue, essential, game-changer move by Putin.
smr
“In other words, another long overdue, essential, game-changer move by Putin.”
I agree. Wikipedia could have been a very useful reference tool, but has been corrupted from the very beginning, as was the intention all along, it being part of the zionazi-gay psywar apparatus. A very “1984” way of presenting “reality” where the information presented represents what the zpc/nwo wants their slaves to believe and is constantly changed to reflect their goals and policies.
I do not agree that Wikipedia can be condemned entirely as lacking credibility. i use it every day as a backbone reference source for business reasons – subjects as diverse as automotive, chemicals, construction, paper, print, pulp, packaging, etc etc and the data is well researched and factual… i have looked up historical and cultural topics in my leisure time and see nothing untoward there…
If there is any bias on specific political sections, in particular mentions of issues related to Israel, that may be so but even there, Wikipedia allows the public to correct and modify data – and these changes can be tracked for verification… and anyone who has an understanding of the realities can identify errors, outright distortions and lies and pin their concerns to the page to highlight their concerns… or create additional text, headers, pages and links to add their own perspectives…so where is the problem?
One topic i found useful was to compare eg historical accounts on the US Marine Corps website which are full of whitewash and gloss (ie bullshit) – more specifically eg on the Korean War – with Wikipedia on that topic and Wiki is more descriptive and factually correct. …
“One topic i found useful was to compare eg historical accounts on the US Marine Corps website which are full of whitewash and gloss (ie bullshit) – more specifically eg on the Korean War – with Wikipedia on that topic and Wiki is more descriptive and factually correct. …”
LOL, that is like a discussion of WW2 history based upon a comparison of what was in german WW2 propaganda vs american WW2 propaganda. :-D
Did Doestoyevsky foresee this in Demons? Lise asks Shatov about an “encyclopedia of everything” who considers it thoughtfully before realizing that the usual suspects put her the task, perhaps a way to hint at his printing press and his ties to the “orgainization.”
Seriously, will they have an English language version? It would be nice to have a different editorial bias from Wikipedia. (the question remains, how to be relatively open source and not be vulnerable concerted hasbara type attacks.)
Sorry to rain on the Lula parade but being better than Bolsonaro does not a hero make.
Lula is the Rothschild-Zionist ‘Octopus’ sponsered candidate in Brazil. He is as corrupt as any politician at his level.
BRICS is a Rothschild-Zionist project for Globalization, by stealth. Bolsonaro is the US military/pro Trump candidate, theoretically Nationalist but a Globalist criminal just the same. I think Lula and Bolsonaro actually work together, to promote neoliberalism in Brazil and shut down alternative possibilities, but that’s another discussion. Very soon Lula’s supporters in Brazil will be celebrating the Return of the King and everything he represents, something which could not have happened without Bolsonaro’s apparent coup.
You can no more vote for your own interests in Brazil than in the United States: Democrat, Republican or otherwise – many different flavours of the same Financier ordained pseudo reality.
Lula is no hero. Stop looking for heroes or you will alway get taken.
Why is Complete AI ‘Text Generator’, Previously Deemed ‘Too Dangerous’, Being Released Now?
https://sputniknews.com/science/201911081077255661-why-is-complete-ai-text-generator-previously-deemed-too-dangerous-being-released-now/
“In its announcement about the full version this week, OpenAI noted that they found “no strong evidence” of the model’s “misuse” in producing a high-volume of coherent spam (noooo, of course not -vt), but still noted that the system could be used in a malicious way through the generation of “synthetic propaganda” by a terrorist organisation (you mean like the israeli regime or its western colonials? – vt).”
“We are releasing this model to aid the study of research into the detection of synthetic text, although this does let adversaries with access better evade detection”, OpenAI stated.
Nevertheless, researchers said that “synthetic text generators have a higher chance of being misused if their outputs become more reliable and coherent” with time. OpenAI also acknowledged that it was impossible for them to know of all the potential threats over releasing the full version.”
But no doubt, they are well aware of the benefits…
@vot tak
Well the quality assurance must be completed in a live environment, to make sure it’s in place prior to the election party next year. We can expect an avalanche of ‘russian’ meddling.
A definite example of false advertising:
‘G-Spot of Europe’ Ad Wins International Tourism Golden Award
https://sputniknews.com/society/201911081077252216-g-spot-of-europe-ad-wins-international-tourism-golden-award/
“The tourism marketing campaign, which described Vilnius as “The G-Spot of Europe”, was first launched in 2018. The campaign’s main logo illustrates the head and shoulders of a young woman lying on a blanket displaying a regional map of the urban area. The woman’s eyes are closed and she appears to be in ecstasy.
“Vilnius – the G-spot of Europe. Nobody knows where it is, but when you find it – it’s amazing”, the campaign’s tagline reads.”
Perhaps an anatomical location a few cm in a posterior direction would be more accurate? ;-D
Aren’t advertising types simply the best, cleverest and most witty of all-they certainly think so!
Oh, oh, but don’t panic…yet:
Hacker Publishes Database of Account Data From Neo-Nazi Forum Iron March
https://sputniknews.com/science/201911081077251365-hacker-publishes-database-of-account-data-from-neo-nazi-forum-iron-march/
“In a Wednesday data leak, user “antifa-data” posted an archived SQL database dump of “neo-Nazi forum” Iron March which includes the usernames, email addresses, forum posts, private messages and IP addresses belonging to members of the self-labeled “Global Fascist Fraternity.”
Since the archive was published, individuals and organizations ranging from everyday netizens to journalists and law enforcement have reportedly accessed the database and have been using various methods to cross-reference and identify users.
Though there is a possibility some of the 3,548 registered users were able to mask their IP addresses by using virtual private networks or software that provides anonymity, such as Tor, it would still be possible to use email addresses, usernames and/or details provided within private messages to uncover an Iron March member’s identity.
For example, Jacob Oakley, a former congressional candidate from Oklahoma (republicrat, naturally – vt), was quickly identified as a user after journalist Elise Thomas cross-referenced his email address with FEC documents.
White nationalist James Alex Fields, who was sentenced to life in prison after he injured dozens of antifascist counter protesters and killed one woman – Heather Heyer – at the “Unite the Right” rally in August 2017, was suspected to be a member of Vanguard America, which was formed from another group that got its start on Iron March.”
Russian hacker? Hope so.
NASA Scientists Speak Out and reject human caused global warming
NASA reveals fundamental flaws in the way data is collected. Satellites do not have the resolution to measure the earth’s sea level rise to the degree of accuracy specified plus the oceans are constantly expanding and shrinking due to temperature. Water expands when it warmer and the reverse when it is colder. Satellites also waver in altitude as the atmosphere itself also expands and contracts.
Putting the doubling of CO2 into perspective, the NASA space station, allow 5000ppm CO2 in the air astronauts breath. Submarines allow 8000ppm and are under water for six months at a time.
The holy grail of climate science is to try to establish the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS), which is loosely defined by the IPCC as the global average temperature rise that will eventually result from doubling CO2 in the atmosphere. The doubled CO2 level in the climate model solutions is artificially held constant but in actuality the ecosystem of the earth uses up half the CO2 we put into the atmosphere every year like clock- work but in the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity solution they are arbitrarily holding it constant which is unrealistic. Plants require a minimum CO2 threshold, or they will die. NASA Scientists say the IPCC AR4 and AR5 reports are misleading and incomplete.
Human caused Global warming has been shaped by Opinion, Politics and financial control. The climate models are based on flawed assumptions. The models are not data. The EPA who submitting the “Endangerment Finding” through the Supreme Court 2007, based on these failed invalidated models, have backed themselves into a corner and are now reaching out to the public to create confusion, fear and hysteria.
Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time, (PNG image)
https://yadi.sk/i/XnssYeEO0MTPiA
NASA Scientists Reject Human Caused Global Warming, 720p (video)
https://yadi.sk/i/lnfIQvX1lH08mg
Absolute disinformation. Totally false. It appears to be ONE NASA ‘scientist’ spouting gibberish, introduced by a veteran denialist and alumnus of Enron. As for your assertion that the ecosystem uses up half the CO2 we emit-what of the other half? Could that be why atmospheric levels of CO2 have risen from 280 ppm (about the highest during the Holocene) to 415 ppm and 490 ppm of CO2 equivalent taking into account the other greenhouse gases, in the last 200 years? As for climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric CO2, that is now calculated by real scientists doing real science to be rather higher than previously calculated, as we can see in the rapid climate destabilisation of recent years, after the brief slow-down during the ‘hiatus’. And what of methane and nitrous oxide? Are they ‘plant food’, too? And your last paragraph is the most perfect example of projection I have ever seen. Everything you say is true, not of honest scientists, but of the denialist industry.
Mulga, It does not matter what the CO2 levels are. The environment is not that sensitive to CO2 levels. If you look at the graph you see higher CO2 levels than now when the global temperatures were at times very low and the reverse. An increase in CO2 level will over time increase plant photosynthesis and CO2 will be more quickly depleted. The graph clearly shows the depletion of CO2. Not that it matters. Not enough CO2 is more of an issue than too much. Your claim has no merit, that anyone who speaks out against human caused global warming is a denialist and speaks disinformation. What is the worst that Global Warming can do anyway if what you say is true? Please provide references to your rhetoric that add validity.
Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time, (PNG image)
https://yadi.sk/i/XnssYeEO0MTPiA
Over geologic time the Sun has warmed (1% every hundred million years) the continents have moved around and conditions changed. That CO2 is a potent greenhouse gas is absolutely settled science, so denying that fact renders your ‘arguments’ null, immediately. Then there is the evidence from reality, but you deny that, too. And, as the actual scientists, not the zealots or employees of Rightwing and fossil fuel disinformation industry state, a four degree Celsius rise in global average temperatures, reduces the planet’s carrying capacity for human being to one billion or thereabouts. In other words a Holocaust of several billion people, dying premature and hideous deaths from drought, flood, fire, pestilence and starvation caused by agricultural failure. That is not even the worst either, because if temperatures continue rising, a total extinction of humanity in a mass extermination event will occur. and that is the science that you deny.
Mulga, again you attack the people (and I have no idea who pays them) but you cannot even refute the first part of the video, which is that sea level is not rising, not even almost, in relation to the first IPCC sea level rise dramatics.
Attacking the people is called ad hominem arguments, and have nothing to do with the actual data being presented. Usually people resort to ad hominem arguments, because they cannot debate the information being presented. In some instances such debate or argumentation may be correct, as one does not take long distance running advise for example from someone who has never done anything like that. In that circumstance at least, ad hominem will be a fair debate strategy. (I’m using ad hominem in its real definition, not the stuff that is thrown around the internet).
As to your characterization of the people presenting, you are far from the actuality. I lived in the US, and saw first hand how important and active the ‘retired professional communities’ are. As far as the piece after the sea level rise, that piece is presented by 25 ‘real scientists’ but now retired from professional positions, as well as ‘real engineers’ from various disciplines .. mainly the space industry so I would only guess a preponderance of physicists. You can go and check their credentials because in this case your ad hominem argumentation is wrong in this instance.
I am very glad to see that you are now recognizing the ‘hiatus’, or the pause as it is generally known, whereas before you called that a hoax of something similar – I don’t quite remember the words, but I do remember you rejected the ‘pause’ out of hand and said that never happened. Now, I see you recognize it.
I’ve only listened to the bit on sea level rise and the nonsense that .. / sarc … well, it is not really rising now, but you just wait .. just wait, because it will rise much faster from the middle of the century. just wait, it will rise exponentially. We were just absolutely wrong so far, but in the future, you just wait and see, we will be right. / end sarc
I state again for the record my view and stance on climate change. And really, this should not even be important to anyone but anyways, to stop the incessant insults :
I think that we are in a period of natural climate change within a natural large cyclical and normal movement. I think that we are moving to a cold period, but that should not matter to anyone .. who cares what I think. If I am wrong, it is only I that will suffer from my wrong prediction. The sheer amount of human interaction in this climate change is undetermined. I accept fully that there is human interaction in such a destructive way, that it may have influenced our natural climate – I would consider nuclear blasts of various kinds as one main culprit. I state for the record that I am personally concerned about this and would hope people pay attention and do the right things from now on for our world and our earth, first being the continual wars and the sheer destruction to life, limb and environment. I say for the record that the IPCC has been in many data frauds and they are not a reliable source to base our own decisions on. Further, the idea of buying and selling carbon credits and the complete financial bourse system around that, stinks to high heaven of enrichment of the already rich. Again, I expect their whole narrative to really be exposed over the next year or so and the fear and hysteria will reduce as we get to dealing with real problems and real solutions.
In our little spot of the world, we are doing what we can and what our universe and environment allows us. Instead of sitting in sackcloth and ashes, I would ask that we change this whole conversation to the positive. The argumentation that humans did it, is almost moot (could as well be the Russians did it) – as the things to do to fix it, are basically all the same.
Your ‘opinion’ is, of course, quite incorrect, and highly dangerous. Denying the undeniable reality of rapid climate destabilisation, and the inevitable rise in sea-levels (where do you think the massive melting from montane glaciers, the Greenland ice-cap and Antarctica, let alone the thermal expansion of the seas themselves, will go?)and denying everything concerned with anthropogenic climate destabilisation goes against all the science. The science created by tens of thousands of scientists working over generations, with their results not just confirmed by reality, but outdone by the real conditions of Life on Earth, today. The word ‘unprecedented’ is being used more and more often, in regard to droughts, floods, deluges, cyclonic storms, mega-fires and mass tree death, the spread of disease, and not just in the historical record, but also from paleo-climate records going back hundreds of millennia and more.
Yet you and your colleagues simply deny it all. You deny the findings of climate science, of all the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth, and the vast majority, nearing 100%, of the climate science community, over 200 years. Instead you prefer a handful of retired academics, some alumni of the tobacco harm denial industry and other denialist cabals, and the disinformation put out by the denialist industry funded by the fossil fuel industry and Rightwing fanatics. Your critique of the IPCC is pure slander, and, in fact, the IPCC Reports have clearly downplayed the severity of our situation, as all the evidence for at least twenty years has indicated. And your plea to get down to solving ‘real’ problems is utterly futile if the greatest of all disasters is not addressed, and is nowadays a favourite denialist diversionary tactic.
“Mulga, again you attack the people”
I fail to see any personal attack in that post by MM. Disagreeing with the opinion someone presented and pointing out what the person considers to be incorrect and false information is not a personal attack. These kinds of false accusations are poisoning the atmosphere on this site.
It’s like arguing with those who use the ‘antisemitism’ slur to shut you up. Whatever you say will be twisted and contorted until it is misshapen enough to be decried, and a very good deal of pure projection is utilised.
MM
“It’s like arguing with those who use the ‘antisemitism’ slur to shut you up. Whatever you say will be twisted and contorted until it is misshapen enough to be decried, and a very good deal of pure projection is utilised.”
I agree 100%. It ruins hinest debate and creates personality contests, instead. Which is their intent.
After the catastrophic fires of the last few days, in particular, and months and years if the truth be known, in NSW and Queensland, finally the victims (and future victims)are speaking out with rage and fury at the denialists who have ignored or denied the warnings of the last forty years that this Hell was coming-and numerous other Hells, too. In return, one hard Right political thug began screeching furiously at those who dared link these fires to climate destabilisation, to be met by much virulent criticism in return. And even worse fire conditions will arrive in that region tomorrow. You can easily see where this is going, and could have done so for at least the last twenty years.
The public displays of raw hatred being seen between the victims of these fires and those who recognise that they are made worse by anthropogenic climate destabilisation, and much worse is on its way, and the denialists in the ruling regime and their media allies and other members of the denialist industry, here in Austfailia have been long expected, and will grow worse. People will simply not tolerate Evil, vicious, imbeciles deliberately driving them to destruction owing to that familiar Rightwing complex of insatiable greed, hatred and contempt for others and simple human viciousness and stupidity, anymore. And the denialists correctly comprehend, I believe, that they will soon be made to pay for their crimes against Life on Earth, and that is making them panic, and very dangerous indeed.
Forecasts of temperatures in West Australia next week are for 47 Celsius ie c117 Fahrenheit. This one month, plus a few days before the solstice and the true start of summer. I think that the climate destabilisation is plainly accelerating more rapidly than all the predictions of the IPCC etc, rather as I once feared, but have long expected.
One victim of the fires was burned out eight weeks ago, then again last week. As a leading official in Queensland, where they voted strongly for coal-mining, and, therefore, climate destabilisation, floods and megafires (and much worse to come)in May, said, once they were only worried by cyclones and floods, but now even the sub-tropical and other wet rain-forests are burning like Infernoes. At one degree Celsius rise, with at least two already baked in, and emissions of greenhouse gases still rising.
MM
“Absolute disinformation. Totally false. It appears to be ONE NASA ‘scientist’ spouting gibberish, introduced by a veteran denialist and alumnus of Enron.”
Whenever I look at these links the anti-warming crowd here present, I find either the information is falsehoods hyped by a strongly biased site, in a like what you describe above, or when lifted from a more neutral site, it is cherry picked and misrepresentative of the source to reflect the biased view the commenter wants to spam here.
vot tak, in God we Trust – all others should bring data :-)
You are a little short of data today in your comments. Come to think of it, I’ve never ever seen you bring a piece of data – you just ask others (i.e. me,) and then try to demean me because I read without a political bias but recognize which side of the big political divide people are on. That however, does not make anyone stupid in their work. Tactically brilliant, and exceedingly shortsighted, to destroy a friendly mileau in this way.
And calling the comments of commentators spam, is a little over the top don’t you think.
But, par for the course of those who swallow the Intergovernmental panel on climate change and use their techniques.
You said what you find. I’ll return the favor –
This is what I find:
attack the presenters
attack the sources
attack the commentators
call any comment outside of their own frame of reference spam
if that does not work, they try to shut the conversation down or make it unpleasant for any other person to comment because the conversation has turned to an unpleasant mileau and not a good open space for discussion
renounce all independent scientists that don’t buy into the IPCC as only a few outliers, which currently is clearly changing
continually harp back to the tobacco fraud, forgetting that as humans, we actually found that and called it out – we were not helpless
if that does not work, esoteric scientific ‘findings’ are presented on the basis of faith with no willingness or ability to look at new findings in scientific circles and enter into serious discussion.
We’ve seen all of these.
This is what I don’t find
They never ever bring source data that can be cited — kinda exactly like you did here vot tak
They never ever speak about possible solutions – like I am asking for, what you and I can do – a method to strengthen the human community and not beat them down. They present solutions that are so high level, that they do not apply to you or me, or make it impossible even to start.
There is a reason for that – it is so designed. The very idea of human caused climate change is designed to make people feel unable, stupid, helpless, guilty and ashamed, without a voice, or thinking it so technical and the scientists so smart that they will never understand it. And in this way, their voices are censored and their own spunk, spark, creativity is lost, and then they they welcome the solutions from Big Brother.
I must admit I do get a little bit giggly though —- these folks that consider all climatic changes a result of man-made global warming think they control the earth’s climate and have the remote control to turn it off or on. (Now watch a few tell me that I cannot giggle even! :-)
“There is a reason for that – it is so designed. The very idea of human caused climate change is designed to make people feel unable, stupid, helpless, guilty and ashamed, without a voice, or thinking it so technical and the scientists so smart that they will never understand it. And in this way, their voices are censored and their own spunk, spark, creativity is lost, and then they they welcome the solutions from Big Brother.”
Nailed it you did. And for my part, giggle all you want whenever you feel like it.
Obsession.
Some are obsessed with CO2 levels as course for global warming. Lack of geological history knowledge, and cyclical events I assume.
This guy is obsessed with windmills. I don’t really see the difference.
http://telemarksporten.no/Tegneserier/Don_Quixote_Windmill.jpg
Kent
The sheer insanity of the denialist cult as the climate catastrophe deepens is truly hideous to behold. Humans are not being robbed by science-they are being robbed, by the fanatic denialists, of a future. The science is not difficult. We were taught it in high school, long before the fossil fuel industry was created and denying and refuting basic settled science became a cult for the hard Right. My God, even Exxon, Mobil and the like acknowledged the science fifty years ago. While millions of rational and sane human beings are protesting a forced mass suicide, it is the denialists who are robbing them of their ‘..spunk, spark and creativity..’. and their futures.
Mulga, I am glad you mentioned School Education in regards to man made climate change. Can you provide details of school experiments that can be conducted to prove this? You talk about climate science 100 and even 200 years ago. Can you provide details of experiments conducted in those times please so that they can be repeated with the collection of data for analysis? Maybe you could ask your handlers if you don’t know?
They teach children about relativity and quantum science in high school, too. Demanding experiments be done in high schools to validate work proven by experiments undertaken by scientists in laboratories or in the field, is simply crazy. Truly mad. So in your denialist universe, every scientific theory must be repeatedly confirmed by experiments over and over again, in schools and elsewhere, else you and your fellow fanatic cultists will not believe it. Do you think that is a clever ‘argument’?
“Tactically brilliant, and exceedingly shortsighted, to destroy a friendly mileau in this way.”
Um, yeah, totally correct. The trolls do this too.
“Friendly” is the key word, and “friendly” is somehow destroyed in the digital world. I don’t know why; it doesn’t have to be this way.
I don’t even necessarily agree with Amarynth here, ’cause I simply don’t know. But Amarynth, your posts have been brilliant and you don’t deserve the negative emoticons sent your way. In other words, you’ve made a very good argument. You didn’t candy-coat anything. Thanks so much for eloquently expressing your point(s) of view.
That’s how the denialists work. Even the most discredited industry stooges are treated as geniuses. Their preposterous pseudo-science is believed with fanatic certainty, even after serial refutations. The entire science community is represented as either liars or imbeciles, and only the Dunning-Krugerite denialists know all. They know that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, although science says it is. They know that global average temperatures are not rising, although the science says that they are. They know that the seas are not rising, and never will, despite ice-caps melting furiously. They know many things, all wrong, all of which make human near term extinction more likely, and to ell with science, observation and concern for the human future. This is the way the world ends, a tale foretold by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Mulga, Climate change realists are stating including me that the climate is naturally getting slightly warmer. We are naturally moving out of an ice age. But it is not human caused global warming from CO2 emissions. Just because CO2 is a green-house gas, this is not proof that global warming is man-made. Human CO2 emissions does not prove your argument as CO2 is not as potent as you say. Increases in CO2 levels have little effect on Climate warming. To convince me and others you need to provide proof and not rhetoric without references. I am happy to listen to your proof of concept. Please provide details of experiments that prove your case? When someone makes a claim it should be backed up with proof. And I have provided many references to prove my point of view. I like to be corrected when I am wrong. Please prove it?
No-‘realists’ state reality, not ideological insanity. The world is warming rapidly, more so than for at least 800,000years, but probably since the PETM 55 million years ago. The latest Ice Age ended at least 10,000years ago, and, in the natural course of things we would be slowly heading towards another, now. You assertions re. CO2 as a greenhouse gas etc, are all simply wrong, as the science tells us. And don’t talk rubbish about ‘experiments’-they have been performed for 200 years, and of increasing sophistication and complexity, using techniques and hardware unknown to Foote, Fourier and Tyndall. You can easily look them up yourself, and attempt to comprehend them and their near universal findings. Good luck with that.
Mulga, Our Earth is still in an ice age. We are coming out of the Quaternary Ice Age. The Quaternary, in the geologic history of Earth, is a unit of time within the Cenozoic Era, beginning 2,588,000 years ago and continuing to the present day.
The definition of an Ice age is when at least one permanent large ice sheet exists continuously. At present, the Antarctic ice sheet has existed continuously.
Currently, we are in a warm interglacial that began about 11,000 years ago.
When the planet exits this current ice age, it means the permanent ice sheets are gone. I suggest you move to higher ground.
Nit-picking between ‘Ice Age’ and ‘glaciation’ doesn’t change the sciences and the observable facts from reality.
I am now just casually following actuals – IPCC ‘forecasts’ vs actuals. So, this one came to my attention and I never even would have looked at it, if it was not that Chris Landsea (arguably the best hurricane specialist in the world) from NOAA (and he is his own man and everybody knows it), recommended it.
The flawed assumptions are fast falling into dust and folks that cling to outdated, dictatorial and static modes of operation (instead of dynamic and free flowing modes of operation) do not yet understand it.
We’re talking hurricanes and the predictions of more storms and more massive storms and more and more destructive storms because of climate change. This turns out to be nonsense as I said even months ago. In fact, the IPCC is walking back its own predictions more and more, because it cannot sustain them any longer because their models are badly flawed. But, they are not telling their disciples in big MSM headlines, so, the disciples still push the “more storms more major storms more destructive storms” meme and others.
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When hurricanes Harvey and Irma both hit mainland US in quick succession in 2017, critics claimed this was the “new normal.”
In fact, those two storms, along with Michael in 2018, were the only three major hurricanes greater than a Category 3 to hit the continental US in the last 13 years. That’s a record low since 1900. For comparison, the average over the same timeframe has been nearly eight major hurricanes.
It’s vital to consider the science. In its most recent assessment, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported that “no robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes … have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin.”
(They are too mealy mouthed to say we have actually fewer hurricanes and fewer destructive hurricanes over the past 100 years – what has gone up, is the cost of course – they’re trying desperately to retain relevance and now want us to accept their new science because now it is vital they say).
Globally, the international scientific body finds “no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency.”
What’s more, “confidence in large-scale changes in the intensity of extreme extratropical cyclones [big events like Superstorm Sandy] since 1900 is low.”
Here is the full newspaper report that Landsea recommended as “Excellent summary about hurricanes and climate change, including recommendations on ways to reduce hurricane vulnerability and impacts.”
https://nypost.com/2019/09/05/what-aoc-co-get-horribly-wrong-about-dorian-and-climate-change/
And here is the initial recommendation from Chris Landsea:
https://twitter.com/ChrisLandsea/status/1179726041671258114
This article touches on something that is probably most important: “For many in America, preparedness for hurricanes is a part of life. Activists and pundits divert our attention from smart policies to ineffective ones when they insist on linking today’s hurricanes wrongly to global warming.”
The dust around the clearly created and polarized debate with all these poor people fighting the wrong fight for the wrong masters has a very very bad outcome. As the piece states .. it diverts our attention from smart policies to ineffective ones.
Further a clip from an email with a friend just recently:
“New science is pouring in only to be ignored by those IPCC clowns and for that, real solutions are being ignored and that is terribly sad.”
Here is a challenge to all that read the cafe.
Can you suggest even one thing that an ordinary person can do to assist with ourselves and our earth in these days?
Not like ‘stop all fossil fuels’ because on an individual basis this is like crying at the moon and not possible. Yet, most of the whole world understands and knows that we have to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels as power sources but this will take a few decades.
But what can be done on an individual basis that makes sense?
(Essentially I want to try and change the destructive debate to one of hope and solutions if it is possible. For that, I ask your help because what will kill the human species first, is despair :-)
This is what we are doing – mainly soil remediation, building topsoil (i.e., good composting which anyone can do), growing as much of our own veggies as possible (to avoid poisoned food and gardening is a soul uplifting activity) and planting trees mostly duel purpose, hardwoods with crops. In our area, the very best is the Mayan Nut – a highly threatened species, and Moringa for its protein, good human medicine and animal fodder – a wonderful fast growing tree that is easy to grow and one can easily start from seed.
https://mayanutinstitute.org/maya-nut/food/
A second thing that we are doing, is to be very very careful as to who we support with money. I’ve been known to put off necessary purchases for long time, because I could not find something that comes from a good manufacturer. We just try as a lifestance not to give money to destructive organizations – this is something anyone can do with the smallest of grocery budget – support local farmers and prepare your own food.
I’m 77 now, 9 years ago we dropped our car. I pull a little trolley for the daily shopping.
I have to do everything on my feet. There is nothing better for us oldies but walking,
or cycling and nothing better for the trees and the birds to be noticed by us.
The only ‘dictatorial’ ways of acting are those of the denialists, who dictate that we must ignore basic science created over 200 years, deny reality and instead join the denialist industry and its fossil fuel and hard Right financiers and controllers. As for cyclonic storms, the current state of the science, once again confirmed by reality, is that the numbers of severe storms are increasing, and the quanta of rainfall from storms also shooting up. By the way, the north Atlantic is not the only part of the world that suffers cyclonic storms.
Your current tactic of recommending useful environmental work in tree planting and soil remediation is, of course, needed, but to attempt to substitute that localised, small-scale, action for the needed global response to anthropogenic climate destabilisation is, at best, Quixotic, at worst a deflection tactic. There is no point acting locally when a deep drought kills your trees, or a savage deluge washes away your soil. We must both address anthropogenic climate destabilisation and ecological repair-not just the latter.
Oh hells bells … now you are fighting with the IPCC’s numbers on storms. Stop salivating for bigger and better storms. So far, it ain’t happening in this huge area – gotto suck it up now Mulga. You and your IPCC was wrong for at least the past 25 years and has been wrong for at least the last 100 years on mega storms in our area. And it may be bigger than you think. Most of the East Coast of Central America and around to the West Coast of Mexico in the Pacific (not only the Atlantic), the complete Caribbean basin from the Windwards to North, with a bunch of big and small islands, up to the complete Gulf of Mexico with approximately 4 major big US states and large Mexican coastal area, the total US east coast up to and including the Carolinas and sometimes a little bit more North. Some people can count and they actually know their area.
Most of us work locally and we don’t make as if we’re responsible for the whole world.
(Mind, I make no promises for tomorrow but at the moment hurricane season is over and we rest till the next season).
But here it is for those that are following. We’ve been given a gift. We now have the ideal portrait of your climate activist of today. Roll with me, and let me paint ….
Disrespecting and denigrating anyone elses work, while showing nothing themselves.
Demanding, not willing to put in their own elbow grease, not doing any remediation themselves.
Insistent on their way or the highway, even if one does good and valuable work.
Absolutely control and diktat. The diktat belongs to them and they will judge what is good or not good (and nothing is ever good enough eh. I’m telling you, the climate activist of today is scared of death and want a promise of eternal life).
They they think they’re Atlas, and they hold the world on their shoulders and you ordinary fellow, bow down before the science (even if the science says .. ooooops, we’re kinda f@ucking very wrong so far on this issue).
They are supercilious, and cannot make even one good suggestion because they have no indepth earthly experience.
They can give you the big words like remedial farming, but they don’t know what it entails.
These people cannot grow a potplant. (I mean a real indoor plant … Mind, I’m no good at that either – I like outside growies)
They have no experience of living with the earth or with anything like farming.
They’re exceedingly scared people – they do not understand that droughts kill trees sometimes – so does fire and these have been with us forever and sometimes it is necessary for deluges and for droughts.
Some medicinal seeds a friend tells me, needs 4 snow seasons to rest, before they germinate.
Savage deluges have been part of our earth forever – if you lived on a farm, you know these things and you work with them. In permaculture we design keyline systems and build swales and berms.
I guess they panic when it rains – they are completely cut off from anything natural excepting as dictatorial observer. Put in more colorful terms, they don’t know sh!t.
Just like I said before. The program is in full swing here. Keep people dumb so that they reach for Big Daddy solutions.
Check it out, this commentator disrespects what we do, and I can promise you, it is way bigger than what this commentator even thinks. And with this, this commentator discourages others to say what they do, or what seems possible for them. So, just like I said, if nothing works, they try to cut off conversation.
So, let me tell a secret. Many people working at it and knowing what they do, create massive remediation.
Few have an idea what is going on in the Latin Americas in terms of remediation. If ecological damage caused many problems, so can ecological remediation fix many problems.
But, what do you know. If they are so adamant that they alone as human beings are responsible and caused the problems for human caused climate change, I guess I wait with bated breath to see their remediation.
If you are responsible Mulga, please tell us what you are doing?
If one takes big responsibility for having done the damage, one probably needs to come up with big solutions. Let’s see. (But my expectation is that they will continue to be naysayers, doomsday prophets and plead with governments for help which is completely non-productive. But these folks do not want to see solutions).
So far, I’ve seen diktat, words and no action whatsoever. But sure a lot of diktat. Anyone good with the history of Mussolini? I think what we see here is fascism?
People are frightened, scared witless as unprecedented fires ravages areas, like sub-tropical rainforests and alpine heathlands, never burned in 200 years of White settlement in Austfailia. Twelve retired fire chiefs gathered together here recently and issued a plea that the Federal regime do something about climate destabilisation, because they could foresee a time when fires would destroy much of the countryside killing untold numbers and there would be no way to fight them or suppress them. They contacted our PM, a hardcore denier, like you, and he didn’t bother to reply. Now, a few months later, those predicted fires have arrived here, just like California, or Siberia, or Bolivia, or the Amazon, or Angola, or Indonesia, and still you deny everything, with increasing fury. And your description of the area affected by hurricanes in the Western Hemisphere, neglects the entire Pacific, the typhoons devastating the Philippines, Japan, Taiwan, China, Vietnam, even Korea, the Indian Ocean, and the cyclones that twice devastated Mozambique and Zimbabwe, Botswana etc, and India, and even Oman and Saudi Arabia. Oh, and the South Atlantic, once free of hurricanes, but no more. Your ‘argument’, if it merits that term, simply cherry-picks, a typical denialist tactic. And as I said, no amount of ‘practical’ local, environmental work will last if the climate rapidly and greatly destabilises, as it is doing, and you, contrary to all the evidence and science, deny for some bizarre psychological reason.
It is simple. It is the end of our season, and the time that we count the seasons hurricanes. Your cherrypicking insulting accusation is simply my data at end of current season.
But whatabout this and that the other – a basket full of whataboutism. Lets answer those with the reality and look at the actuals.
Wikipedia’s super extra doubleplusgoodthinking politically correct page on tropical storms, hurricanes and cyclones – super correct, because they remain with the manmade global warming via CO2 theory and quote the IPCC … who cannot hide the data any longer ….
The latest update :
The annual number of tropical cyclones worldwide remains about 87 ± 10 (Between 77 and 97 tropical cyclones annually) – there is no major increase excepting there is ‘some evidence’ that they are increasing in strength. But that evidence is nowhere to be found in the time that I have available.
And Australia? A significant downward trend in tropical cyclone numbers has been identified for the region near Australia (based on high quality data and accounting for the influence of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation)
Up to current, there is no increase in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and cyclones.
But sure, this too may change into the future. Just, up to now, it has not changed.
The hottest year – all statistics have ‘the hottest year’ and ‘the coldest year’ and so on. It makes good headlines usually.
Then, let’s move to the next goody grabbed out of a never ending grabbag of climate change goodies.
NASA: Area burned by global wildfires dropped by 25% since 2003
Suggestion for those that are scared witless.
Take a little time out and read
Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder
by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
It is a standalone but also part of a series and very very good. If you can read the whole series, it would be great.
https://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Things-That-Disorder-Incerto/dp/0812979680/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ZYDOAXHNOE0A&keywords=antifragile+by+nassim+taleb&qid=1573399982&sprefix=antifragile%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1
Get rid of the fear, get into good work and go and do the right things. Bear in mind that 120 or 200 years ‘white’ history is little. Screaming here at all and sundry ‘aint gonna help one bit and is not helping your case. Working with people in real and honest capacity building, taking correct or best decisions, finding out what can be done collectively and building those mechanisms — all of that will help given the correct leadership is displayed and information is free of bias. Assist people to become anti fragile. Such an approach clearly is much more productive than screaming in fear.
Some spiritual sustenance will also be beneficial in whichever way you interact with that.
I know of nobody that is scared around me. Folks are resilient, we’re busy, we share information and build capacity and share techniques and methods.
Fear will kill you long before a climate phenomenon does.
(And here is me horribly accused of being a filthy denialist, and I say clearly my expectation is that we are in for a tough time climatically on our earth but I don’t think I did it – if you think you did it, well, no use blaming me).
Please can everyone stop the personal attacks between commenters and just stay focused on the facts. Thx. Mod.
The U.S. military is admitting to exporting white supremacy responsible for the violent white nationalist supremist shootings in America and throughout Europe.
I am glad that they have had the realization of the PTSD effects that war has had not only on soldiers, but on the entire world- brainwashed by mass-hysteria based propaganda demonizing a group of people that have never harmed us, and campaigning the world to just let the military continue murdering innocent people.
Does this mean that all troops will be brought home?
If they put their money where their mouths are, then they should bring the troops home!
https://news.yahoo.com/america-seen-as-exporter-of-white-supremacist-ideology-says-us-counterterrorism-official-232420985.html
May Day! May Day! May Day!
We’re F.V. (Fishing Vessel…….loaded with Collusion Flounders….) Deep State …and we’re taking on water forward and aft!
May Day! May Day! May Day!
https://youtu.be/WJ1SfSxSzPc?t=857
President Putin invites President Trump to Attend Victory Day Celebration in Russia May 1, 2020………..and even the Lamestream Media is unable to respond with the usual foaming at the mouth unhinged Russophobic hysteria.
Seems they are more concerned with planning career change moves than with lunging at The Donald’s ankles, snapping and snarling …on command …with any of their former viciousness…..any more.
Hitlery in her foc’sle bunker, Brennan and “Thank God for the Deep State” former acting CIA Director McLaughlin huddle with her
https://youtu.be/gCJ9r0soNHo?t=533 (A female reporter—Margaret-I kid you not- BRENNAN is the interviewer)
and yell “May Day!” frantically into the microphone for rescue, but the Rest of the Lamestream is of no help, rowing away in the only lifeboat…..praying that the don’t get SWAMPED by a rogue wave…..or Arkancided…for “disloyalty”.
Vineyarders anticipate a fascinating article or two on this radical shift in the Geopolitical Weather.
I know people are tired, but don’t tell me that humanity can’t win, that it’s all hopeless …..and that the psychos will be able to nuke us all rather than allow peace and prosperity to “break out”.
I’m not buyin’ that corrupt BS…..at all.
May Day 2020 is less than 6 months away.
Glub, glub.
Deep Six.
plant seeds of hope
that victory may be snatched
from the jaws of defeat
Heat wave in Australia
It seems that the climate change activists are wishing for a heat wave, so they can pounce on the moment and prove their case that Global warming is man-made. Activists do not like being wrong.
What if I told you a story similar to this?
By Tuesday Jan 14, people were reported falling dead in the streets. Unable to sleep, people in Brewarrina walked the streets at night for hours, thermometers recorded 109F at midnight. Overnight, the temperature did not fall below 103°F. On Jan 18 in Wilcannia, five deaths were recorded in one day, the hospitals were overcrowded and reports said that “more deaths are expected hourly”. By January 24, in Bourke, many businesses had shut down (almost everything bar the hotels). Panic stricken Australians were fleeing to the hills in climate refugee trains.
Would that be proof of human caused global warming?
This event actually happened in Australia.
The year was 1896.
Newspaper references are available from this link.
https://yadi.sk/i/hWBmpGK5b-8eGA
A particularly vile denialist canard, given that the country is in the deepest drought ever recorded, fires of unprecedented fury are afflicting the east, in spring, with the hottest months to come, and the rivers and wetlands of the east are dying. Oh, and average temperatures in Austfailia have risen by one degree Celsius since 1896. The temperature records before 1908 when measurement methods were standardised are notoriously unreliable, with thermometers often placed where they were affected by direct exposure to the sun or reflection of heat from the ground. Using real science, not denialist pseudo-science, the summer temperatures in Bourke in recent years are irrefutably higher than in 1896. In the real world, January 2019 was the hottest month ever recorded in the country, coming straight after the hottest December ever recorded. Bourke had 21 days straight over 40 C, a record for NSW. And the wretched accusation that the sane and humane people who want to save humanity from the horrors to come, are ‘wishing for a heat-wave’ is simply filthy libel, and projection.
You all over there in the deep South must be doing something wrong. Here’s me, thinking that you have all the solutions. We’re not at fault. If y’all created human caused climate change, you better get with the program and fix some things. You can also give us the timings of that ‘ever recorded’ story. How long has it been, in reality I mean – you mention 2908, so, just over 100 years which is a drop in the bucket in terms of climatic cycles. What makes you think this is not a normal cycle? Have you worked with your indigenous with better memory and asked them what is normal and what is not? I bet the ever recorded story will change. Why do you blame everyone else?
You’re becoming incoherent. The local blackfellas, as they call themselves, agree with the observations, that the climate is rapidly changing, and they know this land like no others. As do most farmers, gardeners and other people here in touch with the natural world. As do scientists working with native species, many of which are threatened by climate destabilisation (almost an entire species of one bird were killed by one ferocious heatwave last year, and thousands of flying-foxes simply fell down dead from their roosts as the temperature reached 45 Celsius). But none of that happened, did it-the reports are all faked by ‘warmists’ or ‘alarmists’ in your bizarro world of magical reality.
Folks, remember – if you want your posts to appear here then you must do A BETTER JOB of disagreeing without being disagreeable or nasty. There are 39 posts in the Trash right now. There are going to be a lot more if you don’t all DIAL DOWN the hostility.
My first thought was if anyone had done studies on cyclical nature of heat waves in Australia.
A quick search shows that extreme heat waves in Australia have been documented from1844. Very easy to find with quick searches and a decent search engine. I went to check very quickly and see that the first mass deaths from heat related stress of those huge big amazing flying foxes was documented back in 1791. They say this has happened about 35 times already, which does not make it less sad, but of course one needs to go and look at the various heat waves, cycles, circumstances and so on, before one can conclude that this is not within normal climatic cycles. Otherwise one risks throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
But I cannot talk about that, as I have no boots on the ground experience of course.
Just, that the observation is that these are not new phenomena.
As I pointed out to Mike, heat records in Australia only start in 1908 when the positioning of thermometers was standardised. Since then ie 111 years, the hottest month ever recorded was January 2019, coming straight after the hottest ever, in the record, December. Resort to quoting events before 1908 is irrelevant. The science and observations are unambiguous.
One of the most meticulous and detailed temperature records in the world from the 1800’s comes from Adelaide, largely thanks to Sir Charles Todd.
The West Terrace site in Adelaide was one of the best in the world at the time, and provides accurate historic temperatures from “Australia’s first permanent weather bureau at Adelaide in 1856. Rainfall records even appear to go as far back as 1839.
Irrelevant. As I noted, but you have ignored, temperature records before 1908 in Australia are unreliable, because not properly measured. Sorry. Do you want to deny mass coral bleaching on the Great Barrier Reef, unknown before 1998, and for at least 800 years according to coral cores, but common since, worsening, and reducing the GBR to a ‘very poor’ condition, according to the authority set up to ‘protect’ the GBR? Or the first fires in Tasmanian heathlands, or Queensland sub-tropical rain-forests known since White settlement. Shall we deny that, too?
“Particularly vile”; “denialist canard”; “real science, not denialist pseudo-science”; “wretched accusation”; “horrors”; “filthy libel, and projection.”
This is really compelling stuff, Mulga. A sure way to influence hearts and minds. Or do you even care?
Turn it ’round and put “anti-semite” in there… maybe “racist” and “white supremacist” or “Russian” too… I’m on your side in the climate debate, but this is no way to go about it.
People can get really nasty on internet forums, why they do so is anyone’s guess, but Mein Gott, there’s a lot of it around these days. I suppose civility is an out-dated, non-“scientific” concept, kind of like treating your opponent with a modicum of respect. Let’s throw all decorum in the trash, and scream”filthy libel”, i.e., the pot calli ng the kettle black.
Filthy, filthy…
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In other comments by you I saw you wrote you agreed with MM’s basic stance on global warming, yet most of your recent comments on the subject I’ve seen here are lectures to MM on how he should behave. He’s not the only one who let’s his emotions loose here, why just pick on him. :-D
Why not help him out to debunk the anti global warming propaganda, instead?
I did try, but when that denialist tactic (add your own adjectives) of accusing the sane realists of ‘wanting’ climate disasters to happen, to simply win an argument (a pointless hope, as the denialists will go on denying to the bitter end, no matter how many catastrophes occur)I’m afraid that politeness becomes that much harder.
When the fate of Life on Earth, including billions of human beings, how would you react to individuals who deny the science, the facts and all the observations, and who accuse you of ‘wanting’ disasters to happen?
Wi-Fi Refugees. Electrosensitive people try to escape wireless technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWMNTuIZqKo
Interesting, could be expanded upon.
Are Women Really Peacemakers? Europe’s Queens Liked War More Than Kings, New Study Finds
https://sputniknews.com/world/201911091077263995-are-women-really-peacemakers-europes-queens-liked-war-more-than-kings-new-study-finds/
“The research, carried out by the University of Chicago’s Harris School of Public Policy, covered the period from 1480 to 1913, which was dominated by hereditary monarchies.
In focus were 193 reigns in 18 European polities, i.e. kingdoms or duchies, which had at least one female leader during this time (either a single queen or two co-ruling monarchs).
These include the Tsardom of Russia, the Kingdom of England, Spain and Austria. Queens had ruled in less than one-fifth of all countries analysed; they included Russian Empress Catherine the Great, England’s Queen Elizabeth I and Isabella I, Queen of Castile.
The researchers found that within that timeframe, states ruled by queens were 39 percentage points more likely to declare war than kingly realms.
“Queens were also more likely to gain territory over the course of their reigns, but did not experience greater internal instability,” they wrote.
The study concluded that single queens were attacked more than single kings – probably because adversaries saw those queenly states as a vulnerable target. At the same time, married queens were also more likely to attack than married kings, partly because they would “enlist their husbands to help them rule” while kings would rarely turn to their spouses to handle this responsibility.”
In the current period, I have noticed that female leaders are at least just as aggressive and repressive as their male counterparts. Though current wedtern leaders are mostly figureheads, script readers, so a relevant study about comparing the difference now should be focused on the real leadership operating behind the scenes.
An interesting article on ZH: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/three-deep-state-confessions-syria
I want to highlight two embedded links, I’ve looked quite stupified to it (but shouldn’t).
One, a talk with president Assad from Cristiane Amanpour, mind you, it was 2005 (!) and she warned him for ‘regime change’. The way Assad reacted is outstanding: https://twitter.com/IntheNow_tweet/status/1190327643951886338/video/1
Two, a monologue by a certain Dana Stroul from some Syria study group (I wonder whether she can even point the country on a map, and my first impression of her is a young version of that shrieking mother of Howard in the tv series Big Bang Theory, who is never on the screen). She is literally advocating “preventing reconstruction aid and technical expertise from going back into Syria” : https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1191808201177604096/video/1
I’m sure this is all in the interests of the USA that is thousands of miles away, and has absolutely nothing to do with wish lists of Israel. Amazing that US military men are following such orders, but maybe they’re all mercs.
Cheers, Rob
Dana Stroul, from the WINEP, the most vicious Zionazi hate tank in Washington. Killing Syrian goyim, by any means available, is a mitzvah.
A couple of Sundays ago my priest mentioned in passing that many societies –ours included– struggle with the demon of human sacrifice. He was specifically talking about abortion — not sure if the culture of war and death was even on his radar but never mind, abortion will suffice. Human sacrifice lies in the background of not only the institutions that promote abortion based on the secular creed, ” …liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” but also the institutions that on historical/religious ostensibly oppose it. In a sense it seems to me, but I haven’t figured out exactly why that the groups in opposition are morally more culpable than the advocates.
Anyway, I found this ancient link that others might find interesting: https://web.archive.org/web/20100918130331/http://www.coloradorighttolife.org/openletter
Someone who calls abortion ‘human sacrifice’ is, in my opinion, deranged.
Deranged, not misguided? As Heraclitus states: Strife is the father of all.
Yes, misguided, but to such an extremity of assertion that I strongly suspect derangement, at least intellectual, and possibly moral.
But what if one believes in the theory of violence being at the heart of the sacred and therefore all of human culture?
I never directly said abortion was human sacrifice, being a medical procedure — OK, maybe I implied it. But even looking at modern medicine at a comparative religion angle gives interesting results, take the procedure of immunization for example, it is a rite, and in some ways it mimics communion. There is a continuity between witch-doctors and doctors.
Good for you and your opinions and suspicions. I somehow don’t see this thread, however, becoming a wedge like the ‘anthropogenic climate change.’ For starters this discussion is above my pay grade.
@But what if one believes in the theory of violence being at the heart of the sacred and therefore all of human culture?
Well then you would come from a very strange place, b/c people only defend themselves with violence when they cant defend themselves with words.
This is the world we live in. But I am talking on a deeper level. When people don’t cooperate they don’t resort to words, but to subterfuge, to injustice under the color of law. Powerful taboos of what one and what one may not talk about in polite company hint at this. But as I already mentioned, I am out of my depths. I will try to be more prudent.
https://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-sign-of-cross.html
Sacred violence is at the very heart of Judaism, I know that. Jesus, who the Talmudists revile and who they believe is residing in Hell, up to his neck in boiling faeces, thought differently, as did the sages of the East.
In my opinion abortion is not a good. What stops it being ‘evil’ is the fact that sometimes it is the lesser evil, or greater good, than the continued pregnancy and birth. It is not a situation for one group to enforce their ideological absolutism on others. Even worse, some of the anti-abortionists also oppose contraception, and do little, if anything, to make life decent for the child and their family and community after birth. In fact quite the opposite.
Does a life become human when Science and Steven Pinker, not to mention the now defunct computerized stage prop Steven Hawking says it does? Are those who maintain that life is sacred and begins at conception, “language acquisition denialists?”
I guess my point is that the pro’s and anti on abortion wittingly and unwittingly are running interference and that this controversy is in a sense foundational in US politics.
Real life does not begin at conception b/c it can not breath and think for its self. Life begins at birth in reality and at conception in politics b/c it then places the burden of life on the parents at an earlier stage and therefore control of the parents responsibility legally at an earlier stage politically.
Tip of the day, if you want to ruin something, get democratic politics involved.
Food for thought.
There are two apparently opposing but complimentary qualities in seeds as in all living things, the capacity to reproduce and multiply with conservation of existing characteristics and the possibility to change, to evolve. Agriculture and the conservation of seeds are based on the first, while selection is based on this second quality. But there is no dichotomy between these two aspects; agriculture could not have evolved without selection.
Of all edible and ‘useful’ plants growing on this wonderful earth, the overlarge majority (about 90 %) have evolved through natural processes. The early farmers- since the beginnings of agriculture some 8000 years ago – have due to their close relation ship with nature, through observation and selection been instrumental in the evolution of about 9 % of the plants grown for food and other uses. Farmers of old have created thousands and thousands of different varieties of rice, wheat, apples etc. We in the last 30 years have eliminated 90 % of them. It is estimated that only 0.1 % of edible plants have evolved from modern breeding methods. Yet that 0.1 % bred by modern corporate seed manufacturers, in barely a wink of evolutionary time, poses a real threat to our genetic plant base. In these early times farmers also domesticated animals. Now we seem to have lost that capacity and we haven’t domesticated new plants or animals for a very long time !
We have actually fallen far back and we could be considered quite illiterate in comparison with the farmers of earlier ages. It is thus not only about genetic erosion that we have to ponder, but about mental erosion and maybe about the erosion of the inner and higher dimensions. The fact is that when climate change overcomes us whether hotter or colder we will suffer not because of this or that but because we have eliminated farmers! Now we have agricultural exploitation. Cereal growers, potato growers etc who study markets and see how they have to go about their business. If it gets hotter farmers in the North will grow crops from the warmer eco zones if it get colder farmers in the tropics will be able to grow crops from the temperate zones. Farmers will grow and select and make plants adapt to their changed condition. But there is one premordial condition and that is they will depend on heirloom seed. Open pollinated heirloom seeds have a wide genetic base and have their memory thus adaptability intact.
Modern seeds will fail during a climate change. In the twenties of last century Hybrids seed were developed. This with the false claim to improve yields due to hybrid vigour or heterosis. But the fact is that such seeds are sterile. Since a hybrid seed cannot reproduce itself it is non renewable and ecologically incomplete. The farmers have thus to purchase patented seeds every season every year. Today we see huge parasitic seed multinationals to which the farmers are enslaved. Further more the new seeds have a very narrow genetic base. In a survey conducted in the U.S. in 1981, 95 % of all wheat seeds on the market contained materials from the same few (public)“elite” strains, for maize the percentage was 83% and for soya 49% ! This narrow genetic base leads to immense risks in farming and are detrimental in case of climate change. If on the one hand these new seeds cannot reproduce themselves, on the other they also cannot produce by themselves. Such seeds can remain in the fields only when force fed and backed up with massive applications of fertilizers and potent pesticides. These agro-toxics have created a degenerative effect on the vigour of plants, brought about a severe imbalance in the ecosystem, and are affecting our very survival. Again as hybrid seeds are sterile, that means an absence of life force, this is a “quality” that is transferred to the consumer. This was revealed in the study of Dr. Niels Skakkebaek published in the British Medical journal which shows that in the period between 1938 and 1990 the quantity of spermatozoids in the human sperm had declined by nearly 50%. And these are only some of the dire consequences.
However the brainwash held up all these year by the fraudulent clique and the huge, immense sums spend on hybridisation and so called improvement have succeeded in on the one hand convincing the public of its factuality and on the other producing ultimately a technology that sometimes, more or less works. But as Hugo De Vries (who rediscovered the forgotten work of Gregor Mendel )said already in 1907, “in agriculture it is economics that influence or even determine what is “scientifically true”.
AS for agricultural science here are some fabulous quotes from leading agri genetesists “The Genetics and Exploitations of Heterosis in Crops; An International Symposium. Mexico, D.F., Mexico 1997 “ which says it all.
From the opening address of the Symposium : …”We really don’t know much about genetics, about the physiology, biochemical and molecular bases of the hybrid vigour”. (J.D. Eastin et al., CIMMYT p.174). “ The genetic mechanisms that make up the basis of heterosis are largely unknown”. (Coors J.G., CIMMYT, P. 174).“Although heterosis has been for many years at the centre of our preoccupations, the phenomenon is today not better understood then at the time of Gowen’s famous publication of 45 years ago”. (Phillips R.L., CIMMYT p. 350). “The exact basis for heterosis may never be known or understood (…) (Hallauer Arnel R., CIMMYT p.350) . But based on a similar quote: “This fact has not prevented and must not prevent to continue their utilization.” (Stuber 1994).
Beautifull.
Climate change doesn’t really work like that, hotter areas will only get hotter for longer and colder climates will only get colder for longer. This actually makes the growing of foods in those already difficult places even harder to grow or expands the area of difficult growing.
The answer is to always have a years worth of animal grains on hand so the animals dont reduce in quantity and tax the growing of food less so food can be transported to areas where growing them is labor intensive or nearly impossible. Lawmakers frowned upon this b/c globalization was the answer to storage of food and they could never get enough tax money.
Wonderful bernie …
“Open pollinated heirloom seeds have a wide genetic base and have their memory thus adaptability intact.”
Three times YES! It is an issue of vitality.
No seeds, but the very hardiest, and those only for longer periods, will survive the destabilisation of the climate, and hotter and drier periods interspersed with massive floods and deluges, and the spread of diseases (particularly fungal) and pests driven by rapid climate change. This is how agriculture will collapse.
You can bet that, as agriculture fails, the denialists will still be screeching, ‘Everything is OK’. Right to the bitter end. Their fanatic egomania and desire to be proved correct, always, won’t ever change.
“Their fanatic egomania and desire to be proved correct, always, won’t ever change.”
Hmm, that somehow reminds me of someone. I can’t think of whom. ;-)
I’d be over the moon if anthropogenic climate destabilisation was, indeed, a gigantic Greenie conspiracy to subvert capitalism, or whatever the denialists say, but, unfortunately, the chances of that being true are minuscule. On such odds one does not, rationally or morally, bet the future of Life on Earth. As for other subjects, I am often correct, but really don’t mind being proved wrong-that’s how you learn stuff. There I suffer little from egotism.
Your wish won’t save the ice caps. They are going to slowly disappear over time. We are coming out of the Quaternary Ice Age. The Quaternary, in the geologic history of Earth, is a unit of time within the Cenozoic Era, beginning 2,588,000 years ago and continuing to the present day. The definition of an Ice age is when at least one permanent large ice sheet exists continuously. At present, the Antarctic ice sheet has existed continuously. Currently, we are in a warm interglacial that began about 11,000 years ago.
The scam is to blame man made Global warming (CO2 emissions) to make money. The elite have pounced on the opportunity. The Paris accords video that amarynth submitted reveals the fraud perfectly. Sure CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but CO2 does not drive Global Warming. The Climate change models have been “Parameterized” or fudged and are not capable of predicting future climate change.
The Paris Accords, 320p Video
https://yadi.sk/i/cB_eJnG98XM_6A
NASA has released a video of the Arctic Ice cap which appears to get thinner.
NASA Arctic Polar Ice Cap, 720p Video
https://yadi.sk/i/ErSvBTUDXX6ncQ
Climate Doomsday is not going to happen. The planet will flourish with the warmer climate as it has in prehistoric periods. During the MESOZOIC period which includes Jurassic the CO2 level peaked over 2000ppm and the average Global temperature peaked at 22 Deg C. Animals and plants flourished.
The chart below also proves CO2 is independent of Global temperatures.
Global Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time, (PNG image)
https://yadi.sk/i/XnssYeEO0MTPiA
The real scam is the ability of the fossil fuel industry to use individuals to spread loony disinformation, in order to protect their assets, worth tens of trillions, and hundreds and more times more valuable than any imaginary climate scams, and, in the process, create the planet’s first mass extermination (because deliberate)event. By simply ignoring, as if it did not exist, the forcing of anthropogenic greenhouse gases, the greatest such forcing for at least 55 million years, but probably hundreds of millions more, you render your ‘argument’ null, in my opinion. That CO2 and methane, nitrous oxide and anthropogenic gases like CFCs and HCFCs are heat-trapping in the Earth system, is science so basic, so irrefutable, that to simply deny it (I won’t even give the process the distinction of calling it ‘rejecting’) renders the denialist cult anti-rational, anti-science, anti-reality, anti-Enlightenment anti everything but fossil fuel profits and Rightwing ideological fanaticism.
As a reminder of the force for change at work in America, I’m posting this blog update by Regeneration International (where grassroots involves the actual roots of grass.) They are focusing on supporting Chilean people even though the COP 25 conference is moving to Madrid. Just as a reminder that there’s so much more to America than the actions of the decision makers. (Another person who I find encouraging is Marjory Wildcraft of The Grow Network.) If you need a little uplift this weekend about what’s happening in America, I’d suggest these two places may offer some.
https://regenerationinternational.org/2019/11/08/madrid-will-now-host-cop25-heres-why-were-still-going-to-chile/
Thanks for this positive contribution.
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This is a repost of the one I did on the old Cafe, it’s meant to be between (?) and me (not eplicitly excluding anyone of course, just to clarify).
Yes let us take this investigation further between us two, deconstruct as brutal as you can !
First: Yes I am religious in the sense that there is a first creator or generator, something different from nothing which effected this world into being.
Of course from your post it is impossible for me to deduce your starting point(s), I see it as kind of poetic allegory.
But now to the case itself:
You arrive at the conclusion that there is zero free will – which I can follow to a point and acknowledge. I cannot know whether I have a free will, I rather believe it based on my (necess. very limited) experience.
If I have no free will, it makes only sense when we leave time behind and move to the plane where it is merely a dimension of the whole ‘object’ – placing oneself outside the physical universe we experience. On this plane – based on the assumption the object runs for infinite time (this includes the possibility of either parallelisms or infinite sequencing with state transfer (via any kind of processing algorithm) into the next sequence), then indeed ‘free will’ of the sub-objects within go towards zero over time.
I have no problem at all with this – I am part of an unfolding process anyway – the freedom I experience within then is akin the performance of a musician in an orchestra which plays from script and improvisation which we know works perfectly well if the craftsmanship is developed to certain levels.
The fact that I ulitmatly have no free will in no way limits my experience. On the other hand if I had complete and total free will, then obviously I would be the only one in town or more precise the void – a very frightening thought for me, I would need to be GOD for which I feel very, very much ill equipped, Sartre experienced the same.
But anyway in both cases there is nowhere any nothingness in sight – sitting in a cage – or drifting in an endless void is basically the same BUT it is not nothingness.
Nothingness precludes (falsifies it a priori !) this conversation, any meaning, any reasoning and of course any form of existence.
At the end one has to decide what meaning one can put into that which is (including outside, inside) basically a belief towards a fullfillment coupled with the ecstacy of the becoming or on the other side, nihilism – no meaning, no sense at all.
Obviously, I prefer the first one.
The point is not whether one believes – because finally nothing can really be proven – but instead what to believe.
Just some sidenotes (which from my pov shouldn’t be the subject of our further investigation) to highlight some connections to the real:
The Western audience has been f..k..ed over so hard, that they for the most part are nihilists – a perfect starting ground – to create Beasts and Monsters, insatiable in their desires and their rage against anything that is.
The religious are hated because the puppet masters screwed religion up so hard, all the while themselves being ardent believers of Satan (which the audience cannot see, must not see, even in plain sight), really a great pas de deux ! If it weren’t so sad, one could really, really laugh at it !!!
But times are changing fast the truth cannot be hidden forever to much is still in place, the Vedas are inscribed into the russian language and cannot be purged unless the Russians are purged, bad luck I suppose !
Russia is the key !
You’ve expressed belief in a First Cause, a God/Creator. Why would this God not give ITs offspring, Soul, free will?
I ask in the interest of clarity because there’s the problem of semantics, and also the limits of an individual’s personal experience, ( in fact, the interpretation of their experience ). We may all be trying to point to the realm of timeless truth, but things can get very tangled up at the mental level. Cheers, D.
So if your soul doesn’t agree with your mental thinking and then it shocks you in order to try to persuade your choices when said same situation arises next time. But only with Gods approval I imagine, am I getting close or are there too many people in the room?
“So if your soul doesn’t agree with your mental thinking…”, Who is the you if you’re referring to “your soul”?
Each and every one of us is the individual you, who has a supposed individual soul, independent of one another. Is what i’m figuring if Mr soul exists among the collective individual masses, which I actually believe they do.
For you, Alabama. An oldy but a goody; Neil Young – “Mr Soul”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMRqN0m5c-M
Already love it, tks.
@Dimitar
In any closed system (in which all sub-components, parts are to some degree interconnected via whatever alrgorithm) if you change the state of some objects within, the others will be affected as well, thus a change will inevatibly change the state of all other components.
So far so good, the system can take on any (infinite) states. If however one adds two restrictions, one: that certain changes must only happen in a certain direction like for instance that which we call time and second: that changes of states is directly linked to a source of change (energy in our universe) then the number of states or more precise the amount of possible change diminishes over time going asymptotic towards zero.
I don’t say this being exactly so, but it is a possible plausible restriction regarding we having ‘free will’, the argument is just a vehicle to make the decisive point more clear. Even under such a restriction it’s more favorable to follow the flow (which we call experience) of the unfolding in opposition to whole sale negation (nihilism).
Or more clear I and nobody within the system can know with certainty, one can only predict based on past experience or use a random generator, thus using a restrictive model for exposition of the argument.
No matter what finally one believes one or the other regarding ‘free will’ and ‘believe in god’ or ‘nihilism’, the decision will have an impact on oneself (and others).
Ok, thanks for the explanation. Cheers, D.
In simpler graphic terms, “its a fishtank”
So……..
Don’t ask a fish what is water!
As simple as that!
p/s will be back… busy shopping w 11.11 in the east atm :)
“…If I had complete and total free will,…then I would be the only one in town, or more precisely the void – a very frightening thought for me, I would need to be God, for which I feel very, very much ill equipped.”
Soul is given free will, which is a mark of love of the Creator for Soul, but it takes a long time until It brings Its will into harmony with the Divine Will. First It undergoes the slow evolution of consciousness through the mineral, animal and finally human kingdoms. God’s “stop-gap measure” is the Law of Karma, but when God’s Will becomes Soul’s will, Soul begins the Self-Realization process. Some teachings, such as Buddhism + Sufism mistakenly teach that Soul attains union with God. This is impossible as Soul would become God. But Soul can
and does attain union with the Voice of God, or the Holy Spirit and is able to see, know and understand and act accordingly at all times.
Nor does one need to fear this state because Soul cannot be lost. By the time It attains Self-Realization, and begins to experience what being one with Spirit means, It begins learning how to conduct Itself with this new reality. It cannot be lost, because to get to the Self-Realization state, It will have had responsible teachers who have brought It to this experience. Soul is not given any experience It cannot handle. It may fail tests, and go backward in Its unfoldment, but this is only temporary and It will, sooner or later, make up the ground It’s lost.
Nor will It have such experiences with God/Spirit before the proper preparation is made, so nothing to fear.
There’s a great beauty in all of this; Soul is unique and retains Its individuality throughout eternity. We are all on a unique path back to God, that we have created and are continually refining for ourselves over eons. Only we can walk it, but the Universe is ready to help us, if only we would want it to do so, and if only we are prepared to put in the effort.
Dimitar
if you ever happen to travel Bavaria have a look at Murnau and let’s have some tea and
do some re-meditation
Cheers, mundo
Duly noted! In Spirit, D.
@Dimitar (reply to your second exposition) ‘Soul is given free will’
See – we must take care of what we talk about – in this case the predicate ‘free’ what does it mean ? Does it have an opposite ? It has of course, ‘non free’. So ‘free’ is one pole of a dialectic, the principle being (as a purely logic statement) the amount of RANDOM change, not forced from anything outside the entity which the terms predicates to.
Now we can clearly see in what type of idiocy we are being kept thinking, we use totally stupid terms wholly inadequate for the subject at hand, but THAT is to be uncovered, recognized and appreciated as an increase in awareness of the truth.
Dimitar, it is even impossible for you to say with certainty which actions, thoughts are yours and only totally yours, see ?!!
In order to grasp what is going on, one has to go beyond words into pictures, music for instance, there the question of ‘free’ and ‘unfree’ is of very little relevance, instead things like resonance, exciting, harmony/disharmony, sound and rhytm IS the field of interest.
In a dance performance nobody cares about ‘free’ and ‘unfree’, however the result of the performance very well may shake the universe.
We – as beings – foremost deal with complex patterns and should concentrate on the means how to ‘understand’ and how to treat those.
As with so many things we are being led into ominous corners of self imprisonement by the usual suspects for their benefit, THEY know these matters very, very well.
I am a musician, and catch your analogy. Music lies underneath all appearances. The problem we have is knowing what we have experienced, and then expressing that. However, when one approaches the borders of the true spiritual worlds, one notices certain changes in one’s self. One knows when one has crossed certain borders/boundaries by comparing who, what we were before and so on. We also begin to take serious notice of certain spiritual principles/laws, because any transgression affects us much quicker than before. Thanks for the exchange, H Dan. I hope “?” reappears and you can continue your discussion. Regards, D.
“…is it even possible to say with certainty which actions, thoughts are yours and only totally yours?”
There are no original actions or thoughts, HDan. As, in a finished creation/universe, all experiences, all actions, thoughts etc. exist already, and when we “move in and occupy” a certain state of consciousness, we make them our experience, or reality. We may be experiencing something for the first time in our lifetime, but it already exists as a ready made state of consciousness in this world at least. An example would be Soul being born into an animal’s body, say, a camel. A camel does as instinct dictates, the bird does as birds do etc. The human state of consciousness exists with countless experiences which serve a single purpose, to give the individual – Soul, experiences, that once experienced, accumulate as wisdom, resulting eventually in spiritual emancipation. Eventually Soul becomes detached and thereby break the bonds of this world, and moves to the beat of Its own drum. What’s important is our intention, going into an experience. Is it for a selfish purpose?
“In order to grasp what is going on, one has to go beyond words into pictures…” The images we dwell on come to pass and become our reality.
“We deal with complex patterns..” These complex patterns or harmonics, are harnessed by the individual Soul, and assist in our individual mission, whatever it may be. My understanding is that all of life is supported by these patterns, and we are, in turn either working in harmony, or degrees of disharmony, with them. These multitudinous systems are all expressions, specialisations of Divine Spirit, which is the creative, maintaining and sustaining source of all life.
‘The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine’. JBS Haldane, if I recall correct.
HDan; okay, let me try and explain where I’m coming from a little better in language closer to that which you’re using.
“In this case, what does the predicate free mean?”
Free will as I refer to it, is the freedom, the individual has, to choose the path he will walk in life. The decision will thereafter, affect our experience, although we can change our mind also, at any point, and thereby, our experience will begin to change from that point on. Traditionally, in a religious, or spiritual sense, the idea of free will refers to the choice one must make between the “left-hand path”, the path of power, imposing one’s will onto life, or the “right-hand path”, the path of willingness to accept guidance from life, the willingness to change if we see that a particular course is not to our benefit etc. In short, the willingness to submit to a deeper guidance from within, generally expressed thtrough an individual’s conscience/intuition etc. We might call this path, the path of love. So we have freedom to walk either path, but we must accept the consequences sooner or later of our choices.
As far as systems go, to use your reference and using also the example of music, there is an infinite variety – even in a written composition that a musician is performing, of available choices to be made in terms of interpretation. In fact, a composition should never be played the same way twice. A system or structure, will change, ever so slowly, over time, by the new elements that are brought to it as time passes, so that one day, the system may even be unrecognisable, compared to what it once it was. In this way, life serves the individual; it teaches him not only about structure, but also about choices to be made, about the necessity of taking risks, of listening to and heeding one’s deeper nudges etc. I think of this as free will, too. To go against the grain should one wish.
Finally, to me, the individual him/herself, is the most complex of systems, and in the same way, the smallest changes, or decisions we make begin to ever so slowly affect the larger. It may be in a positive, negative or neutral direction. Change comes with new elements that experience brings. In this world, which is essentially about power struggles, the agents of change always fall foul of those whose interest it is to keep a particular system intact. So without free will, there’s only death. One succumbs, or one takes up the ploughshare and walks the path of truth. Timidly, at first, but slowly becoming bolder.
Is this a little clearer?
@HDan dear friend
After the mad rush of buying all the nonsense, after some thoughts observing the ripples of the weather in the cafe, I am sorry to say I shall chicken-out the extended discussion (which would be fabulous).
As one re-incarnated to the eastern tradition this round, I am aware this is not my backyard and I should always respect the host. I observe there is some tender objection subtly transmitted. So unfortunately neither the time nor the space is good enough to guarantee the safety of not deconstructing everything in their world, belief/narrative and ego.
Still I will seek to honour your long sharing in brief and around-about way the best I can one last time. Pls forgive me.
You have obviously done your homework. I can only imagine what your dark night of the soul journey be? What more Truth you will uncover that is not of the body-bounded (or even soul-bound). Best Wishes :)
IS-ness (to me) needs personification. And the only template for any kind of personification, (think religious gods image) by a creature/ego, who btw wants to be god (the narrative) or delude itself it is god, cannot escape from to anthropomorphise it. While NOTHINGNESS is free from that problem. Both are used as a Point of Origin (which we must start somewhere) but not necessary The Source (I resent that term) which again, in the anthropomorphise template, imply there MUST BE and NEED TO HAVE some secret codes. (which spun the secret society and its current secret regime)
The framework you have established here, (if I read correctly), is very Vedas and Vedanta oriented. If you have time, pls do consider Bernardo Kastrup. He recently posted a short live conversation with his friend explaining the juice of his ‘reality’ (SEE:youtube.com/watch?v=C4DJhdUMVJE) The good bits are the bottom half as first half is warm up and establish common terms. You can also enjoy his fabulous Hiking Vlog too. And BONUS! 24:51 you will see some unexpected ‘scenery’! BUT WAIT! There is more if you hang around another minute or so. I think Bernardo didn’t even notice that when he posted it. Did you catch it? UFO or hyper-sonic weapon? HA :D
My unfounded imagination ‘reality’ —>
So again to link it back to my ‘fishtank’, on the outside I am trouble with illusion and on the inside I am trapped with delusion. How then can I get ‘REALITY’ and not just a orgy-istic mixture of narrative and ego? And my ‘fishtank’ is nothing but Self-Reflection, that is I am. I am father, mother, some character, personality, individuality blah… How then can such creature, again, we are creature if we were to point outside and say “there is a creator out there” (again pls note NOTHINGNESS has no such problem), how can such creature ever distinguish “reality’ from the illusion (outside) and delusion (inside) called ‘reality’ it is allowed, programmed and destined to belief and not just resort to ‘I believe because I want to believe’?
As you mentioned, we can label anything and call it whatever we want, and it is TO US. NOT it is but simply it is TO US, that is we will need the narrative and ego to over-ride and suspend everything else that is not illusion and delusion. Even if and when we detect ‘something’, simply because it is not of the narrative and the ego, we don’t know what it is, there is no OFFICIAL label for it, and therefore it does not exist. That’s why its a ‘fishtank’ and a fish can never know what is water.
Put plainly, if a creature is submerge INSIDE consciousness, it cannot know what is consciousness. But CONSCIOUSNESS flow through the creature, making it feel alive, thus the creature mistaken it as his/her own individual consciousness, when it is just a CONSCIOUSNESS programming running the creature’s destiny/journey. And YES!, CONSCIOUSNESS can run through billions and trillion of the body, since there is no time nor space. really. (we have a prototype called ‘computer’ and ‘networks’ and even ‘internet’)
From here, by your calibre, you should see how I said, there is no free will.
(But we have “pseudo” free choice – that’s another long discussion)
So how do I know or how can one know all these? If OBE (Out of Body Experience) can ‘prove’ to us we are not the body, then… SIMPLE! SOUL-DEATH. YUP! Don’t even need a soul, which is another mechanism for the narrative and the ego. That is return to NOTHINGNESS and then from there, either “you” ceased to exist (which you never existed ever b4 or if one must, okie, you co-exist via your gods) or you are transformed to be a CONSCIOUSNESS. (Strangely a lot of ppl missed all the good bits in the Matrix trilogy) Check out the Ending again (if you are a visual-dominated type of creature). How many times has Mr Anderson/Neo died altogether?
The only way NOTHINGNESS can see itself, (perhaps?) is through the mirror of CONSCIOUSNESS (The Shadow and The Darkness, The Self-Reflection, The Narrative and The Ego). NOTHINGNESS is “pure light”, for it neither needs to be in form, substance or essence. It can exist as nothing and yet it contains everything. It is the same. It is surely but the unholy anthropomorphise template of ‘creator’ that needs to be materialised and imaged.
I think you will agree with me, outside of the Narrative and the Ego, that is Self-Reflection, Nothing need reason nor rhyme. Its only a anthropomorphise-thing to ‘sell’ such attribute of ‘reason’ and other blah as god-like exclusive status. What is, IS! What’s nothing, NOTHINGNESS! :)
Okie I think I have gone way too deep for the open forum here…
I hope I have at least tried to match and honour your good sharing, HDan ;)
I leave you with peace dear friend
Again please forgive my lacking
Be well
p/s russia is key I agree w you!
@?
May I call you ‘my dear friend’ too ?
I’m not certain whether you’d expect any reply at all from me or not, so proceed as you see fit, it’s fine with me as it is.
I’ve read through your reply and see that you go to the very, very bottom, Fine !
In order to gather some more context you wisely suggested me going through the Bernardo Kastrup investigation.
Let me first try to give my summary of that.
He arrives at the meta physic essence as being universal consciousness, the dissociational split
via the representational screen as the boundary layer and the self reflective representation.
Well that is basically the ‘map is not the territory’ principle although the screen analogy
highlights a structural and procedural aspect of the boundary layer and here intersting things
happen, can happen, or not happen…
One can characterize this layer as a kind of filter or/and a generator.
One ‘filter’ is already mentioned by Kastrup, the one of pixelization or resolution.
At any rate this filter has some correspondence to the input, if that correspondence is akin a
random-generator in the filter’s algorithm, then obviously the input is not necessary and the
dissociation collapses. I think you can play through the other possible variations yourself.
At any rate as a potential, this layer in principle can become fully transparent, at which point
the universal conscious becomes a fully self reflective conscious !!!
Which creates a kind of moebious paradox, AND we have found an oscillatory movement, as soon
that state is reached the starting condition is reinstated for another dissociation !
Very interesting and a new finding for me (during the writing !!!), thank you my friend !
From this point I want to go back to your writing.
You are taking the IS, NOTHING distinction very serious and to the edge of words and symbols.
We, then just inbetween us have to ask ourselves what is the minimal distinction between them ?
The minimal distinction is none, but because that’s a paradox we must name it seperatly as a
distinct one or say that they must be distinct from each other. I’m using the second solution.
I like to use mathematics (an offspring of philosophy) for that because it shows in short:
0 not equal not0 ( 0 != !0 )
So regarding to your introductory:
“IS-ness (to me) needs personification.
And the only template for any kind of personification, (think religious gods image) by a
creature/ego, who btw wants to be god (the narrative) or delude itself it is god, cannot escape
from to anthropomorphise it.
While NOTHINGNESS is free from that problem. Both are used as a Point of Origin (which we must
start somewhere) but not necessary The Source (I resent that term) which again, in the
anthropomorphise template, imply there MUST BE and NEED TO HAVE some secret codes. (which spun
the secret society and its current secret regime)”
As Kastrup terms it, the ‘universal conscious’, is not in need of personification, it rather
happens somewhere on the way when ‘life’ evolves (they don’t go into details there).
But as soon the dissociation happens an oscillatory-cycle is initiated (whether it is ever reached or
completes who knows…), as we found above, and YES you are exactly right here !
Here just as a sidenote Burkhard Heim developed a very, very advanced unified field theory AND a
theory of life which very, very nicely covers this (proto-life -> biophores).
Now your next step:
“So again to link it back to my ‘fishtank’, on the outside I am troubled with illusion and on
the inside I am trapped with delusion. How then can I get ‘REALITY’ and not just a orgy-istic
mixture of narrative and ego? And my ‘fishtank’ is nothing but Self-Reflection”.
As we have cleary seen the representational screen is a filter (if it were a generator of any
kind it would immediatly collapse back to the universal conscious level), and this filter allows
to see some part of really real reality (universal conscious), some not all, but some is not
none AND it is not totally false (if it were so again the screen collapses).
Tied to that you hint: “is a creator out there” (again pls note NOTHINGNESS has no such
problem)”
Very true ! NOTHINGNESS has no problem at all, but also exactly nothing is happening.
In case you suggest that NOTHINGNESS can contain everything (in violation of my distinction
principle, but let’s follow it anyway), well then you are welcome at the
universal conscious PRIOR to the dissociation, BUT as Kastrup highlights living beings as it
seems atleast in principle come into this union at the very moment when the screen collapses due
to it becoming fully transparent, AND NOW my dear friend we can close ranks and celebrate !
IF we then place ourselves to the uppermost viewpoint and therefore outside time, because of the
oscillatory nature of the process, WE CAN REACH that state as soon the representational screen
becomes fully transparent which is ALWAYS outside time !!!!!!!
There we are unified, brother.
Halleluja !!!
Well, we don’t know for sure because it happens only if the screen becomes fully transparent.
I hope you enjoyed it as I did !
Ahh, and just a sidenote the UFO at 24:51 is a jet with short contrail due to the very dry air,
the sequence is sped up in order to make cloud movement faster – they can be quite fast, but
very, very seldom in real at such nice weather (estimated speeds of over 100 km/h).
Very Lovely, dear friend HDan :)
I’d be lucky if I have another conversation at that open no borders level in the coming decade :)
(and not get hated, scream hysterical at or killed – HA :D)
So I thank you sincerely for the enlightenment tea :)
My frame work is more from the Tao, but the Chinese of Tao, of which cannot be named.
As you mention about Russian is key, for one to understand remotely what Tao teaching be, one must be very versed in Chinese, even ancient Chinese.
But I was also sharing, with you, for the first time ever, on NOTHINGNESS (as I label it)
but it was actually a teaching way back from the Confucius times, or even predates that.
I don’t know how to translate it :( So the meaning is totally lost. Plus we have a barrier of east-west paradigm – culture – doctrine – language etc in play here… Its impossible!
Sorry dear friend :( except to say even the ancient emperors hated it so much they buried all of it, the ppl and the books. It relatively unknown. CCP china (and all other regimes) would have hated it as well.
Anyhow by ‘destiny’, I picked up a book on that in 1970s, by ‘accident’. I have never seen another copy and any other books on that anymore ever again!
But if yo go to the prior the Vedas and Vedanta, you may find something that could be similar.
Perhaps way back when, everything was indeed FORMLESS?!
Also Quantum Physical now seems to show that as well – matter just ‘created’ by seemingly no force no law at all… A complete structure of particle can just emerge out of the ether/screen/nowhere… that is, there is zero input but a full bodied output!
I regret to end the glorious conversation here.
Let’s go back to the ‘real-fake’ world…
Xi has issued, publicly, a ‘destiny-path’ for HK and the spider tangled web of all the unholy business shall tingle and vibrate like never before,
if we never meet again, in body form or in soul form or thought form…
May your god be for you and not against you!
(YES okie okie I admit its always nice to get freebies!)
Be well HDan
p/s perhaps we should continue this journey, at the new cafe, and to provoke and trigger ‘them’ with Flat-Earth? Is there more land mass than on the alleged spinning globe? What if earth is indeed a plane, a flat plane, and we are simply a quarantined creatures at a designated spot? That could explain all the heavy handed ‘freedom propaganda’ 1984 too! Why (need – need like breathing?) so many laws? On EVERYTHING?! Are we nothing more than The Truman Show? That could explain their Mathematical Model of GLOBE! And artist impression of ‘Pale Blue Dot’?! Is the orange man hinting you something ;) HA :D You paying to play?!
Things are getting very dangerous in Bolivia, the opposition is gaining some ground against Evo Morales.They have control of the public tv now. I’m afraid Evo was to slow to react.
This a coup d’état moving really fast.
Yes, but Morales is keeping to the peace. We can do nothing but pray for Morales. It is such a coup! Clearly a coup!
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/President-Morales-Summoned-Opposition-Parties-to-Pacify-Bolivia-20191109-0004.html
Waiter,
Hope your team and regular visitors are hale and hearty. After a long break i am visiting the cafe. A cup of strong cappuccino please !
I am unable to digest the lack of planning and controlling by MAS, the ruling party during the recently concluded election in Bolivia. How could Morales and his team of leaders act is such unplanned manner, which, to say the least, handed over the zionist fascist capitalist deep state (of USA-5 Eyes-Israel) enough ammunition to foment trouble inside Bolivia and block formation of Morales government after the election ! Even if there was no manipulation of vote counting process (that showed gap between Morales and runner-up is slightly more than 10%), a second round voting would have actually enhanced the stature of Morales who could have held moral high ground (that even after securing such a lead we have called the second round to reassure everyone for a peaceful election).
Anyway, the die is cast. Unless Morales and his comrades act fast the situation is rapidly going out of control – within next 5 – 7 days the American deep state will stage a paramilitary/police mutiny at national level and seize central power with military forces as passive supporter. What can be done to turn the tide (which was fully with Morales even 1 month back) ??
The first and foremost task is to regroup the MAS party leaders and workers in each of the 9 departments – arrange very large mass demonstrations (half-a million to 1 million strong) in each of 9 capitals.
Second most important task is to out to paramilitary/police in each of the 9 departments – specifically discuss the destabilisation campaign organized by USA and its lackeys. Identify the leaders who are controlled by the Deep State, organise the rest. Simultaneously held discussions with senior-level officers, middle-level officers of Military forces. Carry out patriotic campaigns targeting the lower-level military staff – tell them what is at stake: the independence and slow progress of the country towards equality and justice VS. subjugation by USA and terrific inequality where oligarchy owns everything…
Third most important step is to open all types of channels for dialogue with the opposition parties and divide the opposition in multiple camps – pull few opposition party leaders with promise for ministry berths.
But before everything, MAS must REGAIN CONTROL OF PROPAGANDA machinery – print media, television, digital media – all possible means of campaign must be made active with propaganda to counter the zionist imperialist propaganda !
And, if Morales can form the government, take quick steps towards forming co-operatives and communes as socio-political entity along with private-government partnerships in economic sphere. Campaign within military and paramilitary organizations to reshape and restructure (if required, voluntary retirement of senior staff, and recruitment of ideology driven junior staff) the defense. Finally, take up the restructuring of Executive and Legislative bodies so that the interest of 90% common people led by MAS is always unassailable. The state structure manufactured by the 1% oligarchy-elites can never address the interests of 90% common people – history provides n number of examples…
So far I remember, about 4 years back in this blog-platform, The Saker allowed us on lively discussions on how Venezuela can carry on the fight against zionist imperialists – as ‘arm-chair strategist’ i suggested action points similar to what i write here … Hope, other regular visitors will join me this time also on Bolivia. I wonder if any Bolivian stake-holder listening among The Saker readers-bloggers ?
Welcome back you lost in space, I can see your smiling face in the corner at the table, when you read the daily fable ! Rarely thing is mostly precious, it brings light and it is gracious.
Welcome back Straight-Bat
I take off my hat !
Thank you for the warm welcome.
Lost in space ? No ! Once an activist , always an activist ! Quite busy with regular things.
The world refuses to accept justice and equality – the 1% oligarchy and 9% lackeys are shining in their ‘glorious’ accumulation of wealth and power.
Morales got enough time – two terms – to put the house in order. He squandered the opportunity and all these years, primarily tried to placate the oligarchy in internal economic affairs while pitching for unity with ‘pink tide in Latin America’ in foreign affairs. Not unlike Lula, Morales will now face the music of 1% oligarchy backed by military.
The latest Colour Revolution tactic, being peddled with vigour by the presstitute scum at Rupert Murdoch’s ABC, is that Morales must go because of the mega-fires in Bolivia. So the regime change vermin are going to use ecological catastrophes, caused by the West, made worse by the West, as weapons to be used against their enemies. The neo-liberal thug set up to take over from Morales will, naturally, be a real enemy of the natural world, as these scum always are, but once in power he’ll be ‘Our son-of-a-bitch’ and that’s all that counts.
Mulga, it’s sad that Morales had to resign and once again the oligarchy-military combination is winning in Latin America. You name any type of dis-information campaign – that’s deplorable. But how could MAS not build a mass-base for itself in last 15 years ? History has been repeating in every continent decade after decade – even soviet communist party which was completely built in a bottom-up process (contrary to media-academia campaign that, handful of leaders plotted Russian revolution) could not survive the conspiracy of global plutocracy…
I wonder when will the common people and mass leaders understand that they need to rebuild ‘state structure’ to survive onslaught of capitalist machinery ??
There comes a time when keeping up w/the Jones is no longer an option, it was already stated that for the past decade the country’s priority was getting out of debt. Now that the 50 billion dollar loan money from the IMF has been evaporated, all that is left is pay back the debt, not rebuild the military. He probably saw this transaction as a losing battle and decided to jump ship and who can blame him?
Never. Divide and Rule tactics and the prevalence of the Rightwing type, ie the psychopath driven by greed, egotism and stupidity seen in support for neo-liberal capitalism that only impoverishes everyone but the elite, and in climate destabilisation denialism and a generalised hatred of environmentalism that only enriches the elite who own the fossil fuels trillions, while exterminating Life on Earth, ensure an imminent end to the human experiment.
To deal with the issue of ‘everybody is being paid by the oil and gas industry’.
My father in law was a scientist and lectured and worked for Big Oil. The absolute best conversations that I ever had about plastics pollution and possible solutions, was with him because he held a doctorate in chemical engineering and actually knew what he was talking about. The conversations that we had, he took back to his group of retired alumni, so, it was not wasted and real brainpower was put to the issue. Some of his last words to me was .. we gotto get back to the laboratory! (In his spare time, he had a class at a local primary school, teaching the younger kids how to grow flowers).
My bestie is a highly qualified biologist working on organic biological methods to purify water, and as a bit of a sideline, worms that consume plastics and she gets paid by the state.
So, we cannot rubbish all people that have different ideas – besides being exceedingly rude, it would be exceedingly boring.
All I ask for is support for these wild statements and apocalyptic announcements that we see this weekend.
But the trend is nevermind what anyone brings to the table, it gets rubbished. That is the thing that is worrying.
I’ve linked IPCC work plenty especially that biodiversity report that was indeed rubbish and caused such an outcry, that the IPCC had to apologize for their use of bad or incorrect language.
But, in general, let me refer to 3 research papers one of which I linked here before.
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To start dealing with the so-called insect apocalypse
1. A longitudinal study from Germany that studied the reduction in insects over 30 selected plots of land. There was clear support that the reduction is because of use of land and habitat destruction, and not anything climatically. So, their ‘recommendation’ is to change land use which makes sense and I agree with that. Insects gotto live as well, and people too.
Arthropod decline in grasslands and forests is associated with landscape-level drivers
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1684-3
This is now new science which we could look at and discuss but the air is being taken out of the room with invective and mistrust and the hard attempt to silence others.
My personal solution which is positive, contributes and does some good, is to have 3 beehives, collect the wild seed of the flowers that these local bees like to consume, and scatter it far and wide, so that they have environment. They look really healthy but we don’t use poisons.
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2. The other study that I looked at quite recently and posted it at the time, is the one of a physicist at a Mexican University who studied CO2. He says clearly the warming theory (and believe me, it is still theoretical and if you don’t know that, you’re going to have to give me the actual studies resulting in clear evidence that the earth is a greenhouse and that earth’s climate takes places in greenhouse conditions) is incorrect, as carbon only carries heat for a very insignificant moment in time – it is physically impossible for it to carry and store heat.
I posted this link before and don’t have it any longer without searching for it myself again.
My personal solution here is to look deeply into carbon based tera preta, the black earth of the Amazonian Indians and a friend has this cockamamie idea that we have to start manufacturing boatloads of this, and have this go to India. I have tried making a little of this before but have not had time to figure out properly how to do it.
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3. Here is another one, new – clearly saying that: ‘A new null hypothesis of global warming or climate change is therefore proposed and argued for; one which does not include any anomalous or net warming from greenhouse gases in the tropospheric atmospheres of any planetary body.’
This means the theory of greenhouse gasses causing and sequestering warming cannot be supported (null hypothesis) and instead offers a new mechanism that changes the picture to a remarkable level and will also change how we do remediation.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324599511_Thermal_Enhancement_on_Planetary_Bodies_and_the_Relevance_of_the_Molar_Mass_Version_of_the_Ideal_Gas_Law_to_the_Null_Hypothesis_of_Climate_Change
He says of his own research: “Science can’t stop just because the results of new research are inconvenient.
Reminds me of the Pope who refused to look through Galileo’s telescope because it was an “instrument of the devil”.
Mann – made climate change through ‘greenhouse gases’ is now scientifically dead.”
I have not studied this in any detail, so I don’t have any comment yet.
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And so the new science is pouring in only to be ignored here and for that, real solutions are being ignored and that is terribly sad. We should be welcoming new work and eagerly studying it in order to make the right decisions and find the right solutions for ourselves and our world.
I read both sides of the fence and the greenhouse idea is being torn to shreds just everywhere. The MSM is still struggling to get the message evidently but they will struggle a while longer – after all, those carbon derivatives have to continue trading no?
I have my proposed solutions but again, those are outright ridiculed. So, as I said earlier, how to get to positive conversation, but I guess the modern climate activist does not allow positive conversation and communicates via invective only – looks to me – and truly feels like what I think hard fascism could be like.
Something called “biochar” is being looked at….improve digestion of cattle….goes back into soil…keeps carbon locked up but helps improve soil…….https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochar
Yes, easier known as charcoal .. people are beginning to make it .. it originally was found in the Amazon basin and was made for a long time by amazon dwellers – called black earth or tera preta. Super good in all kinds of ways.
https://regenerationinternational.org/2018/05/16/what-is-biochar/
You are really a text-book example of a victim of the denialist industry. One ‘scientist’ here, a ‘study’ there, a stunning new revelation about ‘cosmic rays’, or ‘terra preta’, or insects disappearing because of agrochemicals, not, of course, climate destabilisation (it is both, and more, as any rational mind would understand)all brought to us by the fossil fuel and Rightwing ideological forces that finance and control the denialist industry. Meanwhile you ignore all the Academies of Science and scientific societies and >99% of climate scientists, or slander them as liars and frauds, for reasons known only to you and other denialists. You believe what you want to believe, as most of us do, but your belief is against the science and the observations, itself no great problem, if it was not for the consequences. The climate destabilisation that you deny but which is very real, has a high probability of killing billions if left unreversed, and in those circumstances denialism, in my opinion, is morally suspect, to say the very least.
I am working with terra preta since 12 years if anyone wants info let me know.
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‘Military dictatorship style’: Bolivia’s Morales condemns takeover of state TV & radio stations (VIDEOS)
https://www.rt.com/news/473061-bolivia-morales-state-media/
“Bolivia TV (BTV) and Patria Nueva (RPN) radio stations were forced to cut off their broadcasts after a rowdy crowd of 300 protesters descended on their HQ in La Paz, effectively placing it under siege on Saturday.
Patria Nueva director Ivan Maldonado said the journalists, who were vastly outnumbered by the protesters, “were evicted by force after receiving constant threats from people gathered outside.”
In a comment to Sputnik, Maldonado stressed that the employees were taken hostage by the crowd.
“Protesters surrounded our studios and held us captive for two hours, threatening to destroy our equipment… if we did not stop our journalistic work,” he said, noting that the station eventually went off air and resorted to playing music and films.
The takeover was denounced by Morales on Twitter.
“They say they defend democracy, but they are acting like dictatorial regimes”
Morales also condemned what he called “a cowardly and savage attack” on a radio station run by a labor union – Unified Syndical Confederation of Rural Workers of Bolivia (CSUTCB) – of which Morales is a member.
The station was overrun by a group of protesters on Saturday, who then tied its director, Jose Aramayo, to a tree. Videos and photos of the capture have been gaining traction on online, drawing backlash from Morales supporters.”
It appears the zpc/nwo are running a similar destabilisation campaign against Bolivia as they did in the ukraine. The rioting above begs the question: where were the cops during all that? Those attacks were not conducted by small numbers and should have been stopped if the police were doing their job.
My guess is zionazia has heavily infiltrated the police and military, like with most Latin American countries. Chavez managed to clean out that infestation, so Venezuela remains secure from that angle. Erdogan also appears to have cleaned out Turkey’s security/military of similar zionazian corruption, after the gulen coup attempt. But Morales hasn’t been able to purge the quislings, probably doesn’t have the power to do it.
If the zionazi-gays are not able to scare Morales out, like they did with yanukovych, they will take the regime change op to the next level, as in Syria and Libya, where they send in insurgents.
I for one, had enough about Climate Change issues, so that I tell you frankly, I use to skip this question. It doesn’t mean that I don’t care but I strongly believe there are outer forces, much stronger than that of man. People will continue their insanity talking one thing and doing the opposite in reality. At the end, only the deeds count, that’s the way of man. What they are telling has less and less weight in contrast with what they are doing. As the insanity is pushing the limits further and further, people will get to bite their own tails instead of biting their tongues. One can think positively and expect a wonder to happen with all mankind, suddenly, in a blink of an eye but isn’t that very slippery faith ? Such a wonder may imply a revolution…but who will do that when even the main culprits on a higher level are not named ? The other positive way of thinking is, that the nature itself will solve the problem one way or another, without harming you or me and here we are close to insanity. We recognize the power of nature but not that of God, we recognize the skeleton but not the living body, we recognize the mind but not the soul. So, we recognize Death but not Life ? is that a positive way of thinking ? Maybe the script is given for the case when humanity will descend in widespread foolishness and a blackout will come next. Who is to blame ?
“I for one, had enough about Climate Change issues”, but, iaon, the issue remains, doesn’t it?
To me it’s always all right to ‘skip’ if the channel is filled, the alternative is to refuse to look anyway.
“We recognize the power of nature but not that of God”, but what is with you and me?
I recognize the power of God ‘marching’ with the battalions of a VVP or Saker or millions of unknown of their ilk.
I wasn’t that ‘enlighted’ before 2014, Donbas, Crimea and Saker.
Long since me things in a way you seem to have a blind spot with the good things pouring their hopeful solaces.
Good to have you here
mundo
The Blessings of life are all around us, waiting to be noticed.
The Blessings of Life are being obliterated, one by one, one biosphere at a time, by a combination of insatiable greed and egomaniacal stupidity. Most of the remaining koalas on the NSW north coast have been burned to death by the current mega-fires, which are still raging, but that, apparently, is a ‘Greenie lie’. Part of some ‘warmist scam’.
Inasmuch as inertia prevents most human beings from doing anything, life as we’ve come to know it, will certainly change for the worse. Faced with catastrophe, man will be forced to look within himself for answers. This is a blessing. Will we survive as a species? Probably, though many individuals won’t. Will we save the planet? It may be too late, it may not. Any practical suggestions as far as sustaining/preventing climate destabilisation?
The planet will recover, after hundreds of millennia. We’ll definitely be gone, however. The denialists won at least ten, maybe more, years ago.
Correction:
“Those attacks were not conducted by small numbers”
Those attacks were conducted by small numbers conducted by small numbers
Washington-based Organization of American States ‘deteriorated’, ceased to be inter-American – Argentina’s president-elect to RT
https://www.rt.com/news/473035-fernandez-argentina-oas-imf/
“Fernandez sat down for an interview with former leader of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, on his show Conversation with Correa, aired on RT Spanish.
“Do you really believe the OAS can be salvaged?” Correa asked. “The OAS’ main problem is that it is based in Washington, and is largely funded by the US. Fidel [Castro of Cuba] called it the ‘Ministry of Colonies.’”
Fernandez replied: “Yes, you’re absolutely right.”
“The OAS must regain its true nature. Right now it looks more like a North American organization, rather than an inter-American one. I still think we must work on its improvement.”
Low-income Argentinians have staged nationwide protests against austerity measures, proposed by Macri and backed by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
The president-elect said it took Buenos Aires decades to pay off all foreign loans in order to finally “get rid of the IMF and its interventionist ‘I give you money and you do what I say’ policy.” But then Macri undid all the progress by securing a hefty $57 billion loan, he claimed, adding that he warned his political opponent against bargaining for such a large sum.
“Why did the IMF give this money? They did it to support Macri, so he could remain president. His was the most expensive political campaign in history,” Fernandez stressed.
According to him, the funds later “disappeared” from the budget, which has exacerbated the ongoing crisis.
“We were left with a debt that makes up 95 percent of our GDP… Everyone knows the International Monetary Fund is complicit in what happened.”
If Morales is forced out, his zionazian quisling successor will do a macri.
You know the operation is a large one when no one can seemingly go after or locate said “missing”, “disappeared”, or “stolen” monies. This has the smell of a democrat to me, a severely underground type operation well organized and funded somehow by I imagine missing, disappeared or stolen money. We need some of Putins flame throwers to force them out of that fox hole.
The ‘Distraction/Diversion’ mob are always busy thinking up new ploys and memes, they are well known, even 9/11 becomes a successful distraction through argumentation. Climate change and ecocide are winners, as they are so emotive and reach the parts “other beers don’t reach” as the old ad went. Meaning human emotions run deep, and these topics, to some anyway, are irresistible, powerful humdingers !
What are they distracting from is the question. Many things, but firstly, strange to say, what it means to be fully human in body, soul and spirit in relation to the earth and to the environment, the universe, the macrocosm. We are part of it all in fundamental ways that are not really being discussed here, sadly, despite some wonderful thoughts and comments, links and so forth.
Secondly, the aggressive distraction / diversion of human-trafficking, ritual child abuse and sacrifice. These are too awful to contemplate and discuss, but at the hub of evil.
Lot of banging for an anonymous.
And what is your contribution to: “what it means to be fully human in body, soul and spirit in relation to the earth and to the environment, the universe, the macrocosm “?
As a mundo I would like to know some of your insights about “of it all in fundamental ways” and it’s
connection to my psychoid zodiacal order.
Or, where do I fit in?
Facing imminent human extinction through ecocide does tend to reach those places, like the human soul and the love of family and humanity, that are inaccessible for the Rightist, because they either never existed, or have been euthanised by greed, fanaticism and stupidity.
O glowing apricot moon
in the eastern skies rising
your pale blue-grey delineated
face bemused, amused and Quizzical,
scanning the silver continents gazing here
and there upon the globe of the mother earth
“O friends, why are you fighting down there?”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50339377 A lot of questions remain about the ambush and killing of mormon family in Mexico. It was strange that almost immediately after this happened there were people in the US advocating for sending troops to Mexico. It has been known for years that some of the most violent mexican cartels have been trained even by the military in the US http://www.intrepidreport.com/. So as usual the US complaining about the chaos in Mexico but at the same time helping to keep it going.
Interesting article on the state of affairs of US Military recruiting
https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/11/is-military-recruiting-the-canary-in-the-coal-mine-america-dumb-fat-sick-criminal-and-girlie-boy/
Only in Hollyweird cartoon world is the United States a potent military presence in terms of the quality of its personnel recruiting pool. The country would be well advised to abandon all neocon pretenses and foreign military adventures. The reality is in stark contrast and speaks to the truth about the American gutless wonder. According to 2017 Pentagon data, 71 percent of Americans between the ages of 17 and 24 are ineligible to serve in the military. That’s 24 million of the 34 million people of that age group.
“I would argue that the next existential threat we have,” Army Major Gen. Malcolm Frost, the commander of the Army’s Initial Military Training Command, said, “is the inability to man our military.”
Thats alright cause i’m going to submit a bill to end the military.
Further to this is this amazing article about the disappearing white race:
Make sure one sees the website!!!!!
https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/11/what-wrong-with-google-disappearing-white-couples-in-search-results/
The Goolag strikes again. As further proof that we live in Clown World and that Google is in the running for numero uno Bozo in that dishonest, unethical world, here are the results of certain search terms.
The print is small but the following blocks of images show Google search results for “black couple,” “Asian couple,” “Latino couple,” “Arab couple” and “white couple.” Examine these closely.
You can search these terms for yourself. The results will likely show different photos but with similar effect.
Incompetence or malice? There shouldn’t be any doubt about the answer to this question.
Google is the insidious, malicious Crime Syndicate operating arm of the New Underworld Order. This is an example of their social modeling. Whites are being disenfranchised of their autonomy and their future — by design.
And then there’s this from a Jewish Rabbi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really!!!??????????????
US Jewish leader to Israel: Stop killing Palestinians, end occupation
https://ppost24.com/post/473/us-jewish-leader-to-israel-stop-killing-palestinians-end-occupati
US Jewish leader Henry Siegman asks Israeli occupation to stop killing Palestinians and end the occupation of the Palestinian territories.
In an interview with Democracy Now, Siegman, who is the former head of the American Jewish Congress and the Synagogue Council of America, he said that Israel is actually implementing a destruction policy in Palestine.
Commenting on Hamas charter that calls for destruction of Israeli occupation, Siegman said: “The difference between Hamas and Israel is that Israel is actually implementing [a destruction policy] — actually preventing a Palestinian state which does not exist.”
He added: “Millions of Palestinians live in this subservient position without rights, without security, without hope and without a future.”
Good on him. We must remember that while the Zionazi elites are abominably Evil, there are very many Jewish human beings who are fine people. And, in any case, Zionazi barbarity is the greatest threat that Israel and Jewry face.
And have my current view on our astromundane reality:
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2019/11/in-magical-dust-of-kingsconjunctions.html
Sometimes a quiet cloudy day is IT!!
Enjoy my friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XePD7-XOnao
Kent
Well, I am in tears.
Bolivian President Morales announces his resignation. Note his reasons.
https://www.rt.com/news/473102-bolivian-president-morales-announces-his/
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201911101077274286-live-updates-bolivian-military-calls-on-president-to-resign-amid-reports-alleging-morales-flight/
“Nicolas Maduro Condemns ‘Coup d’Etat’ Against Bolivian President Evo Morales
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said Sunday that Caracas “categorically condemned the coup d’etat” against Bolivian President Evo Morales.
Cuba Slams Morales Resignation as State Coup, Urges Global Community to Support Former Bolivian Leader
Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez said Sunday that “violent coup d’etat threatens democracy in Bolivia”.
Mexican FM Says Country Rejects ‘Ongoing Military Operation’ in Bolivia, Will Respect Democracy
“In Bolivia, there is an ongoing military operation, we reject it. It is similar to those tragic events that enshrined our Latin America in the last century. Mexico will maintain its position of respect for democracy and institutions”, Mexico’s Foreing Minister Marcelo Ebrard said.
Mexico Offers Asylum to Bolivia’s Evo Morales
Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard said that the country had received 20 Bolivian officials at its residence in La Paz and would offer an asylum to former Bolivian president Evo Morales if he sought it.
Jeremy Corbyn Condemns ‘Coup Against Bolivian People’
To see @evoespueblo who, along with a powerful movement, has brought so much social progress forced from office by the military is appalling.
I condemn this coup against the Bolivian people and stand with them for democracy, social justice and independence. #ElMundoConEvo
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 10, 2019
Bolivia coup backers are burning the Wiphala flag, an symbol of Indigenous resistance. This is more than symbolic. These violent, racist groups want to rollback the historic gains made by Indigenous people. #thisisacoup
pic.twitter.com/uRc7e82W63
— The Red Nation (@The_Red_Nation) November 11, 2019
Evo Morales Denounces ‘Illegal’ Arrest Warrant, Says His Home Was Attacked by ‘Violent’ Mob
“I denounce to the world and the Bolivian people that a police officer publicly announced that he is instructed to execute an illegal arrest warrant against me; likewise, violent groups assaulted my home. The coup destroys the rule of law”, Morales tweeted.”
Looks like israeloamerica succeeded coup’ing Bolivia, the websayanim and fellow white supremacist right will be ecstatic that the financial ghouls and drug mafia (the bankstas and the gangstas) will be returning to power there.
The Bolivian Right are particularly vicious, having had a large injection of Nazis and fascists after WW2. There will be a Hell of vengeance and retribution now, and neo-liberal savagery. ‘Liberal democracy’ at work.
EU should fear the jihadists it’s backing in Syria, not refugees – Assad to RT
https://www.rt.com/news/472999-assad-turkey-refugees-return/
“How can you fear those few millions, the majority of them are moderates and they have few terrorists, while you support those terrorists directly in tens of thousands at least and maybe hundreds of thousands in Syria and you don’t fear that they’re going to go back to your country?”
“Let’s say that sending those Syrians and other refugees is dangerous, the most dangerous [for] Europe is to support the terrorists in Syria, this is the most dangerous part.”
“Actually, the relation between Erdogan and the EU is two ways: they hate him but they want him.”
Video of the interview at the link.
After all the coups and color revolutions we’ve seen in the last few years.Including the latest one in Bolivia.How anyone can argue against the use of force to prevent these crimes is beyond belief.You stop a coup or color revolution by purging the plotters. Imprison and or execute them.No plotters,no plot. There has never been a successful coup or revolution in Cuba (so far) since 1959.Though there have been countless attempts by the US to foment one.The reason is the plotters were purged before they could operate.
“I am simply a commentator in the Cafe, just like everyone else. I have no moderating duties and I do not moderate and have no responsibilities in the Cafe. I also do not know who and what gets moderated and why. I am just a commentator.
I get moderated like everyone else and go through the normal moderation assessments just the same as everyone else here and sometimes get my posts blocked as well (usually with good reason).”
I must admit I do get a little bit giggly.
Great, laughter is good for the soul but sneak and snark rots people’s brains I would think. Laughter helps a feverish imagination come back to earth. Yes, I have no moderating duties, have no access to a moderating panel, and I do not moderate and have no responsibilities in the Cafe. And yes, I get moderated with the rest of the Cafe dwellers.
I actually have no time for these feverish imaginings and crazy plot constructions. We’re guests of an honorable site run by an honorable man. Best we comport ourselves in that frame of mind. And giggle a lot.
Life is too serious to not giggle.
Just heard that most of the residual koala population in northern NSW have been obliterated by the fire Holocaust. I laughed myself silly.
Syrian War Report – November 8, 2019: Russia Captured Advanced Israeli Interceptor Missile
https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-november-8-2019-russia-captured-advanced-israeli-interceptor-missile/
“In July 2018, two interceptor missiles were fired by the David’s Sling missile defense system in an attempt to intercept some Syrian missiles. The Israeli military destroyed one of the interceptors midair, while another one did not hit its target and landed in Syrian territory allegedly without suffering any major damage. The Syrian Army reportedly recovered this interceptor and transferred to the Russian side.”
I saw an article or two about this earlier, if I remember where, I’ll post them, too. This is interesting, david’s jock strap is a joint israeloamerican saa system that supposedly incorporates the best of american and israeli surface to air tech in production. This is quite a coup, much like if israeloamerica captured a current s-300 missile intact would be.
The Russian will be able the degrade the ability of david’s jock strap to hit with their reverse engineering knowledge, and pass that info on to others. Since the transfer of the weapon happened 2018, likely this has already been done. The israelis have been marketing this saa system, no doubt this Syrian announcement will affect sales, as well. :-D
Rumours it has been passed onto Iran.
Saw this article at ich:
A Successful Coup Against Trump Will Murder American Democracy
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52510.htm
This brought laugh. Democracy in america was something america killed with its formation. The territory saw democracy before the usa was created, but afterward, the usa worked steadfastedly to make sure democracy was dead. And succeeded.
Read through the first para of the article, but stopped there. It’s silly, not even average propaganda. The usa saw a glimmer of possibility of achieving democracy after the exposures and awakening of the late 1960s to early 1970s, but the reagan regime of the 1980s killed those advances and sent the usa essentially back to the 1950s again and prepared the way for the current freakshow the country has become. Roberts was, and still is, an enthusiastic player and fan of the reagan regime and what they did to the country then. He helped create the mess he supposedly objects to now.
The Federal Reserve issued its quarterly assessment of American wealth the other day. As usual the amount of wealth (assets minus debts)possessed by the top 1% has increased yet again, while that of the bottom 99% declined, particularly the bottom 50% who now control c.3% of the total. No wonder they claim the right to lecture the entire world on how their societies must be organised, as they are simply so very ‘Exceptional’.
“Democracy in america was something america killed with it’s formation”.
Democracy does work in small political jurisdictions where you can have the ability to confront those charged with spending your money or making rules about how you can make and spend it. In Early “america” democracy worked fairly well on local levels. Fast forward past the “Revolution” (actually it was a civil war) and the Articles of Confederation worked fairly well until The “Constitution” created “THESE United States”. Democracy was confined to the “States” with the State citizens voting for only one National office, The House of Representative; the people’s house, the power of the purse where spending bills originate. The Senate which oversees the Executive and treaty powers was selected by the State legislatures and Governors who were voted on by the people of the States. The Executive, or President was and is selected by an Electoral College whose electors were appointed by the individual State governments. A loophole in the Constitution allows the State governments to let the people vote for the “electors”. The first time that happened was the election of 1828 when Andrew Jackson convinced enough State Legislatures to allow such. He won and went on to end the 2nd National bank which was a “Federal Reserve” type “Den of Vipers and Thieves”. Gradually all the States allowed the people to vote for “The Electoral College” based upon the number of Reps and Senators it has. This keeps a few large States/Cities on the coasts from dominating the Presidency over the “flyover States”.
In 1913 two “Amendments” and a law changed things dramatically. The 16th Amendment was a direct national tax on labor; an income tax. The 17th Amendment was for direct election of US Senators. The new law was the “Federal Reserve Act”; a new “Den of Vipers and Thieves”. The only real power the State governments have now over the central government is the Electoral College and that is under attack like never before.
Can a “National Democracy” of a LARGE nation work?; and for who? When politicians can tap seemingly unlimited funds from a Central Bank to buy votes with “free stuff”and no check on morality, you have the recipe for unimaginable disaster here and abroad.
No, we did not start out as a “democracy” on the National level. Thomas Jefferson warned that “democracies are as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths”. Ben Franklin responded to “what type of government have you given us?’ with “A Republic, if you can keep it”. Hamilton wanted a Central Bank.
Essentially, we have gone from THESE United States to THE united States. After the un-Civil War there will be no tolerance for any “divorces”. Texas stipulated that they can leave if they choose. Good luck with that.
“Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for lunch”. “A Republic is a family with the parents (law) in charge. A Democracy is a family with the kids in charge”.
“In Early “america” democracy worked fairly well on local levels.”
Do you mean colonial or post revolution here?
In both it was very limited who was allowed to vote, while in colonial america what or who one could vote on varied by territory. Regarding post colonial america, some basics:
Voting in Early America
https://www.history.org/foundation/journal/spring07/elections.cfm
“At its birth, the United States was not a democratic nation—far from it. The very word “democracy” had pejorative overtones, summoning up images of disorder, government by the unfit, even mob rule. In practice, moreover, relatively few of the nation’s inhabitants were able to participate in elections: among the excluded were most African Americans, Native Americans, women, men who had not attained their majority, and white males who did not own land.
John Adams, signer of the Declaration of Independence and later president, wrote in 1776 that no good could come from enfranchising more Americans:
Depend upon it, Sir, it is dangerous to open so fruitful a source of controversy and altercation as would be opened by attempting to alter the qualifications of voters; there will be no end to it. New claims will arise; women will demand the vote; lads from 12 to 21 will think their rights not enough attended to; and every man who has not a farthing, will demand an equal voice with any other, in all acts of state. It tends to confound and destroy all distinctions, and prostrate all ranks to one common level.”
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“A Republic is a family with the parents (law) in charge. A Democracy is a family with the kids in charge”.
While such cute little phrases may endorse one’s own biases, they rarely, if ever reflect the real world and are essentially useless noise.
Australia’s New South Wales Declares State Emergency Over Bushfires – Report
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201911111077275726-australias-new-south-wales-declares-state-emergency-over-bushfires-/
“The Australian state of New South Wales declared a state of emergency over severe bushfires, citing an “unprecedented” wildfire danger, Deutsche Welle reported Sunday.
New South Wales Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said that residents face what “could be the most dangerous bushfire week this nation has ever seen, and State Premier Gladys Berejiklian urged residents to follow emergency services instructions.
“Everybody has to be on alert no matter where you are and everybody has to assume the worst and we cannot allow complacency to creep in,” Berejiklian told reporters in Sydney, DW report says.
Wildfires have already killed 3 in New South Wales and destroyed over 150 homes, displacing thousands of people. The fires have also reportedly scorched 8,500 square kilometers of forest and farmland this weekend alone.
There were over 60 individual fires burning in two states of New South Wales and Queensland as of Sunday night.
Fire conditions are expected to reach their worst on Tuesday, and authorities fear they could threaten Sydney, home to over 5 million people, the report says.
“There is nothing built or designed to withstand the sorts of conditions that you can expect under catastrophic conditions,” Shane Fitzsimmons, commissioner of the rural fire service for New South Wales, said.”
Move along folks, nothing to see here, just some more hysteria from those global warming propagandists. You know they are all Bolsheviks who want to bring down the natural world order and genocide white people…
And, at last, the sane, rational, decent, humane section of society is rising in fury at being sentenced to a climate destabilisation Hell, by the fossil fuel industry, the denialists, the Right in politics and the fakestream media Evil (particularly the Murdoch abomination)to be met by vicious abuse from the Right for speaking up, in return. You can see how this will go, inevitably, as the horrors of climate destabilisation (only 1 degree Celsius so far, with two or more already baked in)finally pummel into thick skulls that the Right and the gutless and cowardly ‘Left’ have sentenced us and our children to unimaginable horror, and, highly probably, mass extermination. People are not going into that black hole without a fight, and vengeance.
It is unfortunately a common occurrence in Australia – before and after man made climate change.
https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/community-safety/bushfire
“Bushfires are an intrinsic part of Australia’s environment. Natural ecosystems have evolved with fire, and the landscape, along with its biological diversity, has been shaped by both historic and recent fires. Many of Australia’s native plants are fire prone and very combustible, while numerous species depend on fire to regenerate. Indigenous Australians have long used fire as a land management tool and it continues to be used to clear land for agricultural purposes and to protect properties from intense, uncontrolled fires.
Historically, bushfires have caused loss of life and significant damage to property. While naturally occurring bushfires cannot be averted, their consequences can be minimised by implementing mitigation strategies and reducing the potential impact to areas which are most vulnerable.”
It is a mistake to consider every fire, all rain, a volcano, an earthquake, a storm or anything that this planet has forever had as part of its make-up as proof for man made climate change. This planet has always had natural disasters of one kind or another. There is no taming it.
Where I grew up, we also had and have similar bush fires. In many instances the naturalists and environmentalists teach us that these are natural and sometimes necessary, just as the piece that I quoted tells. In many instances they tell us that some of the wild seeds actually need fire to be able to germinate the next season.
I have a friend that for six months of the year spends his time up in a tower somewhere in the wild forests somewhere in the North, to spot fires. These are old forests. He tells us that fire there is a spontaneous combustion .. it is not people, it is not deliberately set, it is not man made climate change, but that environment and the trees are prone to spontaneous combustion and there are massive wild fires that burn down massive swaths of forest. It has always been so in that area and his job is to watch out for trails of smoke, indicating that something somewhere has just combusted and then call the necessary fighters to deal with it.
I am truly not convinced that the California fires are innocent.
I do not know if the Australian fires are innocent.
What I do know is the Australia has always had major bush fires and this is not a new event for the Australians and is not now suddenly man made global warming. It has happened through the ages.
Devastating, of course, absolutely yes. We live on a wild planet.
Agreed.
An English tourist I met on a coastal redwood reserve park trail, inquired of me, curious of the difference between the California Redwood and the California Sequoia.
I explained that the Redwood is the world’s tallest tree, while the Sequoia is the world’s most massive, by weight. And that the Redwood forests were found near the Pacific coast only in northern California, while the Sequoia was found on the western (wetter) slopes of the Sierra Nevada.
He was still curious,as to why the distinction.
Luckily a park ranger overheard us, and finished up answering another hiker and explained:\
“What the two giant species of trees have in common is fire. Neither the Redwood nor the Sequoia could exist without fire. And they are both more fire resistant than other trees.
Fire burns the underbrush and kills medium sized pines and deciduous trees, allowing the immature giant trees access to the sunlight the lesser trees were blocking.
The difference between the two giants is this:
The Redwood needs rain, fog….and fire.
The Sequoia needs snow …and fire.”
With new eyes I continued my hike and noticed many smaller Redwoods with charred bark and lower branches……but alive….amidst burned larger pines…either toppled and rotting…or still standing but bereft of any light blocking needles.
In a century or two I could imagine the many “teenage” semi-charred but living Redwoods living through a dozen or so more forest fires…and eventually towering over the rest of the forest……..like their present day “parents” in the preserve do…. today..
Oh those magnificent giant trees. When I lived in the US, that was one thing that I absolutely had to see, and I did and I was awed, breathless and actually quite tearful and giggly … all at the same time. That was a moment, I tell you!
Sequoia are not as tall as Eucalyptus regnans, the tallest flowering plant on Earth. The climate destabilisation of the coming millennia, will affect every species of Earth. Sequoia may adapt and survive, but the problem for all species, particularly plants, is the rapidity of change, the fastest such in planetary history, save for the much shorter lived effects of meteor and comet strikes. Of course, if we keep denying the problem, and letting the beloved fossil fuel industry pump ever more ‘plant food’ into the atmosphere, we may cause the greatest ever mass extermination (because deliberate)in planetary history, and the Sequoia will be no more.
The fire authorities in Australia are unanimous in declaring that the fire conditions at present, and which will worsen in coming years, ie the dessication of the undergrowth due to unprecedented drought in normally wet regions, the very low humidity, the strength of winds, the temperatures experienced for longer and longer periods etc, are unprecedented. In other words your harking back to the past to deny the current inferno, is simply wrong. But I suppose these experts with decades of experience fighting fires are all in on the ‘climate scam’, and getting their instructions from Al Gore. That would be your position, wouldn’t it.
our remarkable planet
Hong Kong protesters set a man on fire because he disagreed with them.
https://twitter.com/qingqingparis/status/1193769978740146176
Hey, that’s how “democracy” works in the zionazi-nazi west.
Not ‘protestors’-‘democracy advocates’! The freedom to burn your enemies! Western Moral Values at their finest. A veritable ‘burnt offering’ to the Gods of Freedom! In good news, James Le Mesurier’s jihadist mates have defenestrated him in Turkey-he must have become a liability. He’s gone to Heaven and his Holy Virgins, like the good jihadist scum-bag he was.
This is brutal.
On the video thereunder, it can be seen what happened prior – the man chased away ‘protesters’ that look very much like organized Antifa thugs to me.
And here in the West people are whining about ‘police brutality’.
Curious when the Chinese troops are going to intervene.
Cheers, Rob
Some good news this am.
Founder of ‘White Helmets’ James Le Mesurier Found Dead in Istanbul – Reports
https://sputniknews.com/world/201911111077278912-founder-of-white-helmets-james-le-mesurier-found-dead-in-istanbul—reports/
“A law enforcement source has confirmed the death of James Le Mesurier at his home in Istanbul. However, the source added that at this time, it remains “unclear whether he was murdered, or committed suicide.”
Earlier, the White Helmets organisation has confirmed to Israeli public broadcaster KAN that the group’s founder had been found dead in his home.
#BREAKING: White Helmets officials confirm to me that Le Mesurier was found dead next to his home in Istanbul, and that police are investigating pic.twitter.com/I45mcZgR26
— Amichai Stein (@AmichaiStein1) 11 ноября 2019 г.”
Well, naturally the white helmets would contact media from their masters first…
” Sözcü, a major Turkish daily newspaper, reported, citing police sources, that Le Mesurier may have killed himself, and that he had been taking anti-depressant medication for some time ahead of Monday’s incident.
Sabah, another major Turkish paper, also reported, citing law enforcement, that police consider suicide the most likely cause of Le Mesurier’s death, with the former spy possibly jumping to his death from the balcony of his 3rd floor apartment. No traces of gunshot or knife wounds were found his body, police told Sabah.
A source close to the investigation later said that there was no evidence of any unauthorised persons being near his residence at the time of his death.
Le Mesurier’s wife was quoted by Sabah as saying that she and her husband had dinner together on Sunday. “After that we took sleeping pills and went to bed. A few hours later I woke up from the ringing of our doorbell. It was the police. They told me that my husband had fallen from the balcony and died.”
Founder of Terrorists’ ‘Propaganda Arm’
Syria considers the White Helmets a “terrorist organisation,” citing the group’s regular operations in areas controlled by jihadist militants, including al-Qaeda offshoot the Nusra Front,* as well as its creation of video fakes which seem designed to prompt Western military intervention in Syria. Independent journalists have repeatedly accused the group of serving as ‘al-Nusra’s propaganda arm’, given its alleged ties to the militants.
The Douma attack was later debunked by verified testimony from multiple eyewitnesses who appeared in the video, including that of an 11-year-old boy who revealed that he and his mother had been given food to participate in the video. Since that time, Damascus and its allies have repeatedly voiced concerns about the possibility of more fake videos and false flag attacks by the groups designed to prompt Western intervention.
Last week, the Russian Foreign Ministry urged London to investigate Le Mesurier’s possible ties to al-Qaeda. At a briefing on Friday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova pointed to independent research indicating the former spy’s possible links to terrorist organisations going back to his work in Kosovo. “There is data suggesting that there were al-Qaeda members among his team there,” Zakharova said, adding that Moscow would “very much like to hear what London has to say about these facts.”
A couple of useful articles describing the war crimes of the white helmets terrorist outfit from last December:
‘Organ traders, terrorists & looters’: Evidence against Syrian White Helmets presented at UN
” The ‘White Helmets’ are not a rescue group but an extension of jihadist militants, and should be designated a terrorist organization, Russia’s envoy to the UN argued at the presentation of evidence into the group’s wrongdoing.
Praised in the West as humanitarian rescue volunteers, in reality the ‘White Helmets’ work with Islamist militants in Syria, harvest organs from the victims they pretend to be “rescuing,” stage false chemical weapons and other attacks for cameras, and loot the bodies and homes of Syrians killed and injured in the war, according to Maxim Grigoriev, director of the Russia-based Foundation for the Study of Democracy.”
Organ theft, staged attacks: UN panel details White Helmets’ criminal activities, media yawns
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/447385-white-helmets-un-panel/
” Utter silence. That is the sound of Western corporate media days after a more than one-hour-long panel on the White Helmets at the United Nations on December 20.
Journalists were present, so the silence isn’t due to lack of access. And in any case it was live streamed on the UNTV channel, and remains available on Youtube for keen observers to watch. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thxkhGqTdPg&fbclid=IwAR2oKljqjpr8wb8NTrOELhKG-MQyLskTGVHqsAQV4JKSMIneAvENIEqfiUk )
More likely, the silence is due to the irrefutable documentation presented on the faux-rescue group’s involvement in criminal activities, which include organ theft, working with terrorists — including as snipers — staging fake rescues, thieving from civilians, and other non-rescuer behaviour.”
Link to the first article:
https://www.rt.com/news/447091-white-helmets-terrorists-russia/
What! The White Helmets weren’t there to save him?
Whether guilt, divine intervention or a helping hand precipitated the demise, this is a Remembrance day to remember.
The scum-bag was getting too ‘tropical’. It’s a guessing game who defenestrated him. MOSSAD? MI6? His jihadist butcher mates? Syrians bringing justice? Naturally the Guardian shit-hole is singing his praises. In any case, a good day.
Some rumours of cuts gashes as if he had gone through a glass window…..one UK press referencing Mark Urban as saying”state actors” might have been involved…….suggesting eg a certain country might have hypnotised him from some distance away to dispose of himself????
Oh, I think the ‘sleeping-tablets’ could easily be thought by western MSM to be a derivative of Novichok -one that specifically induces sleepwalking over balconies.
No matter, good riddance.
Bots? ‘Thousands’ of newly-created generic Twitter accounts defend ‘right-wing coup’ in Bolivia
https://www.rt.com/news/473119-bolivia-morales-twitter-bots-coup/
“There are thousands of what are obviously bot accounts trolling anyone who tweets about the right-wing coup in Bolivia… There’s a big operation going on here,” tweeted Ben Norton, a journalist and assistant editor of the Grayzone Project. He noted that the accounts have formulaic handles consisting of a common name followed by a series of numbers. Screenshots show anti-Morales messages being posted by new accounts with only a handful of tweets.
There are thousands of what are obviously bot accounts trolling anyone who tweets about the right-wing coup in Bolivia
They are spreading propaganda in English, their account names are often @ namenumbers, and they were created in November
There’s a big operation going on here pic.twitter.com/GLJ8Sw14pM
— Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) November 11, 2019
Incredibly, his observation was bombarded by denials… from generic Twitter accounts created in November.
Tfw you tweet about the right-wing Bolivia coup bots… and some of those same bots whose fake accounts were literally *created yesterday* reply and claim they aren’t bots pic.twitter.com/lQ9o3vtQCq
— Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) November 11, 2019
One user flagged by Norton had only four tweets – all of them attacking the journalist for sounding the alarm over the suspicious Twitter activity. The account was only three hours old.
Hahaha yet another Bolivia coup bot account which only has 4 tweets, all attacking me.
It was created 3 hours ago, and it follows 1 person: far-right Bolivian coup leader Camacho.
This pro-coup bot disinformation campaign is so obvious. pic.twitter.com/Vd9n2Z0PG6
— Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) November 11, 2019″
Gee, now who would be doing this…
The usual suspects, with the standard playbook.
In this article of Caitlin Johnstone she describes that the MSM is curving in any direction to avoid the word ‘coup’: https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/msm-adamantly-avoids-the-word-coup-in-bolivia-reporting-3df1752ca0e0
(including a transcript of a memorable speech of Evo Morales for the UNSC.)
Cheers, Rob
Thoughts on religious consensus viewpoints:
Three great Abrahamic faiths; which are repeated, ad nauseam, as: Muslim, Christians, and Jews. Beyond these three, the rest of the world has various forms of pagan practices, of which, nearly all handily coincide with the concept of opiate-of-the-unfortunates (save those pagan cults too much like Schopenhauer, ie, Buddhist); and having surpassed these mental crutches ourselves, by means of scientific-imparted rationality, all non-rigorous thinking, such as religious comparison, is painlessly filed in neat little cubbyholes; needless to say, actual, or virtual, file cabinets suffice, and there is no need to take the trouble, to stick this stuff in the head at all, where it will only collect dust. All that is necessary, for archiving our vast comprehension, is the recognition of the mnemonic prompt; in this case, “three Abrahamic religions” and gears spring to life, instant acknowledgment follows, and the agreed upon paradigm of foolscap mishmash springs to mind— “Yeah, yeah. I know, I get it. I already learned about it! And I’m busy with something, so . . .? Do you mind?”
In an imperfect world, such as this one, education of the masses means one thing — empty-headedness! And how better to empty a head that desires, above all, to be continually void, than to torture it with useless mumbo-jumbo jargon “for its own good” throughout its formative years of indoctrinated schooling. The empty-head believes it was forced to choke-down, all known knowledge, and recognizes that simple fact that, everything in the world, both past and present, is boring, except for its own trivial activities of empty-headedness.
Well? Is there a better answer to this comparison question than the repetitive trivialized nonsense of ersatz education; no, there isn’t a better answer, rather there is only one answer: which is the reality of human insignificance and powerlessness in the face of forces beyond our grasp. Face-up to the facts, humans don’t know anything; and all who say otherwise are liars and fools.
1.7. Right knowledge is inference, tradition and genuine cognition.
1.8. Wrong knowledge is false, illusory, erroneous beliefs or notions.
1.9. Fancy is following after word-knowledge empty of substance.
The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali
Is that a confession? The Getting of Wisdom.
“…human insignificance and powerlessness in the face of forces beyond our grasp.” Humans are not insignificant nor powerless. Many may be blind consumers, ignorant etc. and many/most may be ‘insignificant and powerless”, but a conscious human being can change from being the effect of life, to being cause, and thus effect change, in both the visible and invisible worlds.
“..humans don’t know anything, and all who say otherwise are liars and fools.” The vast majority of humans may be the most destructive of all creatures, due to their selfishness, and their position “at the top of the food-chain”, ie; the enormous power/influence they wield, but life is not a random walk, and their purpose here also, not as it may appear.
Under the pretext of education, we have reached such a darkness of ignorance that what the ancients understood so clearly seems to us almost inconceivable.
https://www.stseraphim.org/wonderfulrevelation
Time to Lighten Up, Climate Warriors!
George Carlin on Climate Change:
https://www.facebook.com/153657598048710/posts/2530430157038097/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e
click on video within the Defacebook post………..and then get as amused…or as offended as you like!
There a little of both for everyone,,,,,,Mike, Mulga, amarynth …even I am slightly offended.
LOL.
Because I am much more optimistic.
Carlin was right about one thing:
“the planet isn’t going anywhere we are!”
“When I shoot at you with my deadly and destructive arrows of famine, I will shoot to destroy you. I will bring more and more famine upon you and cut off your supply of food. I will send famine and wild beasts against you, and they will leave you childless. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I the Lord have spoken.” (Ezekiel 5:16)
“There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.” (Luke 21:11,
“See, the storm of the Lord will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. The anger of the Lord will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will understand it clearly.” (Jeremiah 23:19–20,)
“The word of the Lord came to me, Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord.” {Ezekiel 14: 12-14}
“We live in a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants, in a world that has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. We have solved the mystery of the atom and forgotten the lessons of the Sermon on the Mount. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about dying than we know about living.”
—U.S. Army General Omar Bradley to the 1947 U.S. Army Graduating Class of West Point
Milan; don’t give up hope yet, friend!
What we’re experiencing is called the collective karma of the human race, and we’re just getting to the interesting part. If you’ll permit me to share a few points I remind myself of each day;
1. I, you,we exist because God loves me/you/us.
2. Be grateful and thankful for all we have, esp. health, our loved ones.
3. Choose to be a conscious vehicle/force for love.
4. Give charity to all of life, even though you may not agree with the points of view of others, or even like them.
5. Forgive and forget. Holding grudges is an unbearable burden and will sap the life-blood of anyone.
6. Love yourself as Soul first and foremost.
7. Be the best version of yourself that you can possibly be. When you fail, pick yourself up, dust yourself off etc.
8. Do at least one thing per day purely out of love.
Regards, D.
Remembrance day folks!
Just watched a preview of pres. Bashar al-Assad on RT. People should not be fooled by CIA/Pentagon war machine on behalf of the corrupt and the sub loyal western corporate or state media. Consider how these corrupt rulers in the west outlawed syrian media on satelite and cable and started the war on Syria that was organised by the Obama presidential administration and Hillary Clinton, the full international setup during her Doha conference on Syria creating an international alliance to conquer Syria that culminated in the full occupational forces of IS and al Qaeda and their subsequent mercenaries that they and the CIA were able to enlist at the period in time called the Army of Conquest North and the Army of Conquest South. Pres Assad had the history of this invasion in mind and correctly established that IS was a US creation right out of their own military encampment of Bucca (Iraq).
The full interview is aired tongight at 2100UTC (2200 CET). RT on-air live
The word is out with diplomatic dip-shit extroirdinaire Nikki Haley’s self-elevating book, “With All Due Respect” that many in the media are alleging that Nikki Haley is using the book as prooaganda not only for a 2024 presidential election bid, but as “evidence” for Trump to dispose of Zionist, war-mongering corporate fascist Pence, and replace him with Zionist, war-mongering, corporate fascist Nikki Haley.
What is it about American presidents that they repeatedly display an uncanny talent for surrounding themselves with the worst people in the entire world?!
What is it about the American voters that despite presidents surrounding themselves with the worst people in the world, and carrying out their agendas, contrary to what they were elected to do, people continue to not only support and defend them, but re-elect them?!
(Get ready, there will be screeching and gnashing of teeth for sure but the words will have no substance).
Here is something that those that worry about ‘scientific consensus’ must watch.
There is no consensus and you can read the criticism that this documentary received for daring to say just that, even as early as 2007.
At the end of the documentary, you can see what these climate change policies are doing to the poor world. Incidentally that is what Putin meant in his comment to Greta, when he told her there is a whole world out there that she is clearly not aware of.
I dare to say just exactly that. Scientific consensus in this area is Manufactured Scientific Consent.
(Get ready, there will be screeching and gnashing of teeth for sure but the words will have no substance). You can refer to the climategate emails, (there was actually 2 climategates) the attempt in the data to make the medieval warm period disappear, the deliberately false displays of graphs to make them look very steep on the warming side even to put measurements of totally different time periods on one graph, and the continual meddling with new data of the sketchy climate records. Refer to the meddling with historic data and the changing of the climate record (which is sketchy at best). Refer to land temperatures just sweetly used for sea temperatures, because sea records were not available. Anyone that looks into this, must also then go and search on The Corbett Report, where James did a thorough debunk of this man made climate change attempt at confusing and controlling and owning humankind and milk them of any financial and other resources that they still have.
https://www.corbettreport.com/?s=climate+change
https://www.corbettreport.com/page/2/?s=climate+change
https://www.corbettreport.com/page/3/?s=climate+change
https://www.corbettreport.com/page/4/?s=climate+change
And then, anyone who looks into this, must also read the IPCC reports (usually the summaries for policy makers).
https://www.ipcc.ch/reports/
As far as those that they claim in these reports contributed data, take a look at the documentary where the one scientist explains that he had to threaten them with a law suit to get his name off a report because they skewed his contribution. This is widely reported from others as well.
You have my apologies for my part for what some experienced as an exceedingly unpleasant cafe. It had lovely bright spots here and there. But do watch the documentary and make up your own mind. Scientific consensus is clearly a dream. So, sorry for the unpleasantness in this Cafe. Allow me to explain a little.
I refuse to have my voice drowned on these issues. I will do what I can to keep the speaking space open for others as long as the owner of this site allows me. Thank you to those that are trying to make positive contribution only to face a barrage of words with piled up guilt and shouted invective with no substance. I also strangely found myself put in among the political ‘right’ which is truly a joke. And then of course, I was accused of blocking posts selectively which is another joke and a true overstatement of my importance here lol.
I refuse to have our personal and community efforts to add to a productive and beautiful earth insulted,
ridiculed or minimized by anyone. I asked in the beginning of this Cafe, for positive contributions.
– One commentator spoke about getting rid of a car and how good that was personally on many levels.
– Another commentator brought some wonderful information on heritage and open pollinated seeds.
– Another commentator gave a link on where people are doing good work.
– Another commentator made us aware of tera preta.
(Forgive me if I forget anyone).
All of these positive contributions were drowned out. I like the people here on earth, animals I adore, insects I know are necessary but I sometimes hate them, I love bees and pollinating insects, efforts to green our earth and fix it are at full swing and to me it is miraculous. I would like everyone to be happy, have enough to eat, good shelter, good education, required medical care and the rest to my mind is kinda up to the Creator Forces, or your own karma. The sheer gall of the very rich to buy and sell carbon credits as an erstwhile derivative that may float somewhere in the air and on the backs of the very poor is just evil in my book. This is Disaster Capitalism to the nth degree.
Humanity needs energy. This does not mean we do not have to look for alternatives to the oil and gas industry and fossils. Clearly we have to and there are many initiatives to do just that. I’ve mentioned some and got ridiculed. There was even this one Putin Praetorian that sold Putin out in the most vile way with a column to the most vile anti-Putin press, when Putin took Greta to the woodshed. He is so muddled that he sold Putin for Greta. You know, even if I subscribed fully to the CO2 theory of man made climate change, I would still not add my voice and my energy to these activists because I cannot support their aims and objectives. It is not about ‘saving the earth’ its about ‘killing off the humans’. More about this in a next writing.
In the documentary, the scientists that broke ranks clearly state they are not paid by coal and gas industry, and what is more, they can prove it. Also, they highlight the many bureaucrats involved in climate change conferences .. at that time 6,000 bureaucrats for one 10 day conference and the billions of dollars that is being used to pay those people and their fun conferences. The sucking sound of a bunch of created bureaucrats is getting louder and louder. And truly, they’ve accomplished nothing but radicalize a bunch of kids and supporting a bunch of clearly culture war and liberal democrat (but more to the fascist side) activists that cannot practice what they preach, are consumed by hatred, fear crazed and now moving to threatening language, right here, in our own cafe. A little bit ago, there was clear description of genocide, or sweetly called ‘humane reduction of population’. I wonder who is going to volunteer to be ‘humanely reduced’. These activists can go first, far as I am concerned.
What they have accomplished is to put the poor world further into poverty and jeopardy.
I personally expect quite a wild ride climatically here on our earth for a number of years coming and we should decide for ourselves which direction we think things will go and become strong and resilient and be part of solutions if only to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror. A friend who is a futurist considers that by next year this time most of the fighting will be over and we will have moved into a true and realistic seeking and building solutions state. Some of us are already there. Those that fully accept man made climate change (and a lot of harm has been caused on our earth – there is no denying that), must then also accept their own guilt. This is harsh, but it is true and they kick and scream something fierce if one points this out. They cannot say it is ‘man-made’ but it is the other ‘man’ that is guilty. Kinda like Trump – it is always the other fellows fault lol.
These activist are not environmentalists. They are not your “I am the Lorax and I speak for the trees” radical environmentalists that we may think they are. My next piece will go further into that.
The documentary from around 2007 still exists after countless efforts to smear it, kill it, get it dead and make it not available and censor it. (Get ready, there will be screeching and gnashing of teeth for sure but the words will have no substance). I would wish that everyone make up their own minds and remain emotionally and spiritually strong. There is this scripture that comes to mind. “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” In my home language, it is Investigate all things and hold fast to that which is good. In this space of climate change, that probably translates to verify everything doubleplusgood! These activists are not willing to put their money where their mouths are to support their rantings. They rant, and expect support on the basis of faith. Their own leaders say .. It does not matter if our science is wrong. These activists are not willing to accept reality and want someone else to make it better for them. Vengeance they say because someone else cannot make it better for them.
Toward the end of this documentary it is made clear what these policies are doing to the third world. This is not nonsense but true. We run a small solar system, and those that bleat solar have no idea of the toxicity of those systems.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpEzUqCN7M
Now, after that documentary .. all I can say is How Dare You! You that support this fascist liberal democracy and culture war just because you have not thought about it. How dare you affect the poor world in this way and condemn people to poverty. How dare you condemn children and make them unable to put on the lights in the evenings to do their studies while you sit here on your computer and spout propaganda. How dare you condemn women to picking up firewood for preparing food, and breathe in smoke all day long. How dare you condemn a rural hospital to having to choose – do we run the fridge for cooling of our medicines, or do we put the lights on?
How dare you! And some call themselves leftists. How dare you!
A quote from the Sirius report: “One wonders when the people of western nations will finally realize that their political institutions are largely the problem and never the solution. It is painful to watch them invest so much time and energy in such an illusion.”
Listen to Judith Curry and her history and when and how she changed her mind and what happened to her … and the ‘heretic’ label that was applied to her, the former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology (this is a short version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=GujLcfdovE8&list=PLFtWxQ8ICpic2fA
8J2BE7cR1fYcBVoMfk
Let’s see which company these man made climate change activists find themselves in. Besides the fact that the western leaders have often said very seriously, … it does not matter if our science is flawed, we’re gonna change the world to our way of thinking anyways. OK, the company … you keep:
These people are not interested in science evidently. These are the people that just lately supports the man made climate change intiative. (It does not matter if the science is flawed!)
– Christine Lagarde has made it abundantly clear that climate change will be a priority during her tenure as ECB president, suggesting that the central bank might use monetary policy to support a climate-friendly stance.
– The EC’s incoming president, Ursula von der Leyen, has announced the intention to create a climate plan. This includes legislation to achieve carbon neutrality by 2050, the introduction of a green border tax and the creation of a fund to advance a “just transition”.
– Morgan Stanley: “Climate Will Be A Key Driver Of Asset Prices In The Months And Years Ahead”
It is estimated that more than US$50 trillion of capital will need to be deployed into renewables, EVs, hydrogen, biofuels and carbon capture and storage over the next 30 years, putting US$3-10 trillion of EBIT up for grabs.
What will they start with? Not with reduction of war, or war materials, no, of course not.
They start with ‘decarbonising’ electricity. They want nothing less than to redraw, redesign, remake and reinvent the systems that we have today (they need to change), but into their own pockets.
Enough yet for you, or shall I continue? Are these the people that you consider honorable and honest leaders of humankind, or are these the dregs and most evil of society – only interested in big money. Do you feel these people have your interest at heart? Take very clear note of who you profess to be in cahoots with, a watercarrier for and whose soldier you are. And take cognisance of the fact that they don’t care if the science is correct.
Next, comes my very own breakdown of what a climate activist is, based on what we see here and the sickness hidden underneath the sweet sounding words of ‘saving the earth’. I’ve done some, but will gather it together in one document. (Get ready, there will be screeching and gnashing of teeth for sure but the words will have no substance). This is actually my first rodeo around the climate change activists but I’m learning fast and the deeper I delve, the more sure I am of certain things. There are solutions lying all over for us to just do.
Whaterver is false will come to a natural end. Already in 2021 temperatures will start to be reported as colder than normal. The present “normal” is the medium temperature each month or year related to a “standard” set by WMO for the period 1961-1990. It has become a source of desinformation since it does not really mean a normal temperature but rather a former temperature that existed prior to our present time. So the new standard will include the warmer period and therefore the “normal” will be much harder to surpass. Colder temperatures than “normal” will be reported all over the world. It is as simple as that. This year North America has a record low , as well as the Arctic during October and so far into November and record low temperatures has been noticed all over the northern hemisphere every year which should not happen with the socalled blanket of CO2 it would be increasingly more unlikely to reach a record low for each year passing since the industrial revolution created an increase in the CO2 level. The fact of the matter is that CO2 is not effective in this matter, it is totally overwhelmed by watervapour in the atmosphere, in fact absorbed by it and causing less watervapour by increased precipitation. The theory of CO2 AGW was defeated by science at the time the theory was put forward, and at that time science was supported by evidence as for example experiments that created proof. So there was a concensus of a false theory. CO2 appears to be causing a slight cooling effect overall.
As for the moneymakers it is clear they created the whole circle of enrichment via the developing countries to have the climate change quotas end up in their banks as they established the perfect loop.
You mentioned Ursula von der Leyen, and she is one of the political puppets from London School of Economics and Political Science, a common career politician recruiting ground of the many Robber Barons constructions, the London SE include people like David Rockefeller and George Soros . H.G. Wells, one of its founders, were a part of the original Round Table of the Rothschild platforms (for taking over the running of the empire and the world at a later stage under planning. It has already been mentioned at the World Economic Forum (Switzerland) that they have planned to dismantle democracy totally by 2032. The climate change scam is part of a more sinister total takeover as it is also totally a scam so that in order to continue it is just like communism. In order to continue in power it will need to develope into a totalitarian state.
@ It has already been mentioned at the World Economic Forum (Switzerland) that they have planned to dismantle democracy totally by 2032.
I wonder just what this entails?
A short summary:
World Economic Forum is a David Rockefeller organisation, and the leaked quote from that organistation is seen as a part of the Rockefeller policy or work of creating (for the Rothschild syndicate of which he was a most active part) a one world government without the limitation of democracy for the takeover of the world. In his own words:
David Rockefeller (leak) on YouTube
He’s more likely to be burned by the sun than complete any dismantling, I mean who died and left him maestro?
Increased CO2 and methane and other greenhouse gases, by warming the Earth, cause more evaporation, therefore more water vapour in the atmosphere, a positive feedback to higher temperatures, and more evaporation etc. The water vapour increases by c.7-8% per one degree Celsius rise in global average temperatures, and is already being seen in more frequent massive, record-breaking, deluges and floods. And all this codswallop is not even refuted by science, but treated with increasingly outraged contempt. The denialist canards, apart from their idiocy, rest on the religios, cultic, assumption that the world’s scientists, Academies of Science and scientific societies, plus c.99% of active climate scientist,s are fools, or idiots, or engaged in a gigantic conspiracy organised (God help us!) by ‘the Rothschilds, George Soros, David Rockefeller and ???!!! H.G. Welles. Paranoia does not come more lurid than this.
You don’t see the logical faults in that argumentation ? First you assume that CO2 cause higher temperatures, then you use that to produces wanted effects ? That is called looping the evidence, or false argumentation both in scientific terms. It cannot pass any inspection or report. So, when CO2 do not produce higher temperatures, actually lower temperatures by absorption into watervapour causing fallout or precipitation (decreasing watervapour efficency). CO2 molecule which by itself do only have a narrow band for emission of infrared, a totally inefficient radiator has become a reduction element for heat retainment purposes in the atmosphere. So there can not be any positive temperature retaining effect in CO2 since there is watervapour being so effective wide band radiator absorbing the CO2, and and there is contanimation of it by CO2 causing blockage of CO2 as a radiator. Unless there is a desert with an atmospere with very low watervapour we can actually find out any effect of CO2 at all. At the time I researched desert temperatures, the temperature datas were stable historically. As was the Antarctica mainland (slight cooling), and the vast masses of land in Siberia. Things change over time as well as whether patterns causing over time is called climate. It changes and becomes dry or wet influenced by ocean patters, Ocean mass are warmed by sunlight not watervapour, and not CO2. In the Pacific these patterns are known as el Nino and la Nina . There are direct influence in climate and indirect changes of climate that cannot be explained by CO2 not even by heat retainments of watervapour, it is done by ocean whether patterns again caused by solar heating itself. All the effects that are used today as political tools of climate change agenda like draughts and flooding are whether patterns and not climate. Simply put it is all false claims and propaganda, never supported by critical science .
The socalled climate change science are simply repeating a faulty theory through mass publication and supported by corporate media creating the political tool for its propaganda . And who owns those media? It has also been clear since 1850 when the Rothschild syndicate that ran the british empire, decided to control media at large, started by acquiring Reuters. While establishing the Federal Reserve and controlled the presidents of USA they did the same thing with the hidden british empire, USA. It is supported by history, it is not a theory.
The basic scientific fact is that the Earth system is no longer in heat equilibrium. The amount of heat reaching the Earth from the Sun, must be balanced by re-radiation to space, or the planet will heat or cool. The forcing of greenhouse gases, principally CO2 over the last 200 years, has caused an imbalance of c. 2 watts per square metre, building up, and 90% sequestered in the oceans, which is why climate destabilisation will continue for millennia. The lunatic theory that tens of thousands of scientists, over generations, and all the scientific societies and Academies of Science on Earth, are fools, in the pay of-who else- the Rothschilds, is paranoid gibberish. And the fate of humanity hangs in the balance.
Heat, or thermal capacity of gas is a measurable physical parameter. It is easily observed and quantified by any competent laboratory. Anyone can search for, and find the relevant laboratory data if interested in constructive dialogue.
Blighted, but easily accessible Wiki gives the following definition: Heat capacity or thermal capacity is a physical property of matter, defined as the amount of heat to be supplied to a given mass of a material to produce a unit change in its temperature.
Here are several lab reports comparing CO2 vs N2 heat capacities:
http://www.teacherpage.com/trindaw/docs/Final_Report.pdf
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/specific-heat-capacity-gases-d_159.html
All thermal capacity measurements of CO2 vs N2 (plain Nitrogen) state that for all practical purposes, heat capacity of CO2 is but identical to N2.
Partial volume of CO2 in atmosphere is measured in ppm (parts per million) and is around ~ 500 ppm (0.05 %).
Partial volume of N2 in atmosphere is ~ 78 %.
Now pray tell me again what is Mann-made human caused global warming fraud based on. Using data, not a emotion-based belief system.
So, tens of thousands of climate scientists and all the Academies of Science and scientific society on Earth, are simple fools, or lying conspirators. Is that what you are asserting? What is making the ice-sheets, ice-caps, glaciers and permafrost melt, worldwide, then?
From the BBC, this is what climate change does not look like.
Italy has declared a state of emergency in Venice after the Italian city was engulfed by 1.87m (6ft) high water levels, flooding its historic basilica and cutting power to homes.
More than 80% of the city, a Unesco world heritage site, was under water when tides were at their highest.
Italy’s Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte described the flooding as “a blow to the heart of our country”.
He said the government would now act quickly to provide funds and resources.
The historic sites hit by Venice floods
“It hurts to see the city so damaged, its artistic heritage compromised, its commercial activities on its knees,” Mr Conte, who visited the region late on Wednesday, wrote in a Facebook post (in Italian).
And pics too, of the future of living in Venice.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=people+walking+on+planks+in+venice&fr=yhs-itm-001&hspart=itm&hsimp=yhs-001&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.terrafirmatourist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F07%2FVenice-Aqua-Alta-2-walking-.gif#id=2&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.terrafirmatourist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F07%2FVenice-Aqua-Alta-2-walking-.gif&action=click
No, no, no! There were much worse floods in Venice in 1234, or 765 CE, or sometime or other. I have my science from ‘joannanova’ whose Nobel Prize in Climate science has so wretchedly been delayed by the warmists and alarmists. Oh, here it is-in the ‘Necessary Office’. In any case, the seas aren’t rising and cannot rise-Venice is sinking!!
Watching the posts on this topic, which the Mome is waging an active war against, despite the supposed rules preventing such, leads me to the strong suspicion that this is a demon — and therefore you should not engage in conversation with it under any circumstances.
When the ABC was forced to broadcast the mockumentary ‘Great Global Warming Swindle’ in the 90s, the staff went on strike at the outrage of such vile disinformation being forced on the Corporation. To still quote this melange of garbage, lies and disinformation, today, a generation later, when our terminal plight is so much worse and plain to see, is fanaticism of a particularly maniacal type. Anything you say about climate destabilisation realists and truth-tellers will simply be the worst sort of psychological projection. Climate science realists value Life on Earth above all else, unlike the denialists who prioritise greed, egomania and ideological hatred.
The consensus among climate scientists is near 100%, and is agreed with by all the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth. The consensus among the denialists, those on the fossil fuel payroll, and cranks, and the lumpen ideological fanatics, is also 100%. One, the scientific consensus, gave humanity a chance of averting catastrophe, while the consensual denialists are driving humanity to a coerced mass extermination Holocaust in a global gas-chamber.
Putin Explains Why Russia Can Afford to Spend Less on Defence
https://sputniknews.com/military/201911111077281330-putin-explains-why-russia-can-afford-to-spend-less-on-defence/
“[Cuts] aren’t related to us letting things slide when it comes to these issues, but due to the fact that the main planned initiatives connected to the need to intensify work on ensuring the country’s security…and with regard to the need to ensure the renewal of military equipment and hardware, and we have passed the peak of this work,” Putin said, speaking at a government meeting on Monday.
Putin noted that Russia’s military-industrial complex will need to continue its efforts to create high-tech, competitive equipment, and not resort to “making pots and pans” (i.e. engage low-tech civilian production) as it had to in the 1990s.
The president instructed the government to prepare “clear-cut and understandable” plans to include defence enterprises in the realisation of national projects, a series of government initiatives aimed at improving various aspects of Russia’s economy, science, and human development, and to report back on the necessary regulatory or organisational decisions which could help the defence industry in this area.
“It’s necessary to ensure the strict, targeted use of funds allocated for the purchase of machinery and equipment. I want to emphasise that we must reach absolute transparency in this area,” Putin said. “The flow of funds should be clearly monitored at all levels of government and for all types of budget expenditures,” he added.
Last month, Putin told media that Moscow would not be dragged into another arms race with the United States, and said that even though Russia was only spending $48 billion on defence and ranked seventh in the world behind the US, China, Saudi Arabia, the UK, France and Japan, Moscow enjoyed “unmatched military capabilities” thanks to “focused research on priority areas” by Russia’s defence engineers and specialists.
In October, NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance should be prepared to continue to increase members’ defence budgets, even as an additional $100 billion in spending is expected to be added in 2020.
The Trump administration has pressured all of NATO’s members to increase spending to 2 percent of GDP, and US lawmakers have approved increasing defence spending to $686 billion, up from $667.6 billion in 2018. The Trump administration has also continued the 30 year, $1 trillion programme of upgrading the US’s nuclear forces that was started by his predecessor Barack Obama, and overseen an increase in NATO deployments and drills along the bloc’s borders with Russia.”
There’s that trump fella again pushing war and preparations for war. These rightwing scum say anything to get elected, but once in place, always promote the zionazi-nazi policies they promised their zpc/nwo masters they would dutifully fulfill.
Regarding Putin’s explanation of why Russia has now reduced military expenditure, can one imagine trump saying something like this?* :-D
*Obviously I don’t mean the websayanim and white supremacist far right spamming here with that question. ;-D
“Lithium, a Strategic Resource: Here’s Why The US Wants To Break Bolivia To Bits With Hybrid War”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/heres-why-the-us-wants-to-break-bolivia-to-bits-with-hybrid-war/5542595?fbclid=IwAR0o5CBt_c4edUBmadVDnE_1PTQKuhSDwPm2mxgdsD22xfjVj8OkNR4G2y4
Written in 2016 but very accurate now. China – USA – Lithium.