2020/03/16 06:00:01
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Repeat of a late post in last cafe.
Update of situation down under.
Medical martial law in full swing in Aussie… the mood in Coles supermarket this morning was surreal. No chatter just very quiet people stocking their trolley with the few basics that are still available. Just doing as told by Govt in case they have to self isolate.
As of midnight all persons entering the country will have to self isolate for 14 days… but they can catch a taxi to their home. Go figure?
All sport cancelled but schools will remain open because having kids run around the streets unsupervised is no good. And their parents perhaps work in the health care sector– so we need them to stay at work.
Social distancing – stand 1 metre apart – no handshakes. No one allowed in your house if they don’t live there. (kiss Easter family gathering goodbye).
This is madness on steroids… didn’t have this panic during 1950’s polio epidemic… but then they quickly rolled out a vaccine.
Hegelian is working overtime: problem — reaction — solution. Virus… panic… vaccine/micro chipping or whatever.
Some 4 people have died in Oz… from something! Every death is a sadness, but the reaction seems too much.
Soon they will be knocking on my door to take me to some ‘isolation’ place… if we follow the UK model.
Peace and blessings to fellow cafe dwellers because soon we won’t be able to enjoy a cafe coffee… we will only have this virtual cafe.
Btw – I am a different person to Babuška, who also lives in Aussie and shares her wonderful wisdom in the cafe.
I did a few sums, now that it seems that the epidemic in China is virtually over.
According to online stats, China had 80,850 cases. [Deaths 3,200]
In a country of estimated population 1.5 Billion, that works out to 0.00538 of the population.
The virus was first noted early in December 2019, lets assume 1st.
This means that the epidemic ran for 15 weeks, over which time 0.0053 of the population were infected, and and even smaller fraction died, nearly all older, health compromised males.
And for this, the Anglo Empire world is going insane with first of all hysteria, then panic, and now it seems a sort of Government competitiveness. Aus slaps on huge fines and 1 yr in prison for breaking house arrest. UK has a longer house arrest time, with Armed Forces patrolling streets – supermarkets. US bans ALL European entrants. Aus slaps a mandatory house arrest on those returning from overseas!!
I know we all knew we have little reason to have any faith at all in any intelligence, insight, courage, honesty and integrity in our Ruling Class, but are they truly this stupid??
Or is this all the name of some damn thing they are planning for down the track.
Of all things most damaging to aged persons it’s to be left alone. To be condemned as many will be to stay isolated, perhaps unable to cook, clean, get food. with no human warmth, contact, support. The fear of what to do if they fall, get sick, cant feed their beloved cat!!
It’s the cruellest thing I can think of.
And more and more what with Cuba, North Korea, Russia, ‘Stans, getting few to no cases – I wonder if it was deliberate – but as a form of “blow back” as Saker puts it, from China to a West which has been hitting her hard with sanctions, smears, military threats and Hong Kong.
My son-in -law works FIFO in Saudi Arabia. I guess he’ll come home for his 2 weeks leave to find he cant leave the house!! What a place.
It has nothing to do with deaths……………..it’s how quickly it spreads and how many people it incapacitates. So what if two of your three thousand employees die, what happens when 2998 of your employees are home sick………………..and if you run a hospital, oy vey! Forget the death tally, bad factor to judge by. Sis, a frontline heatlh care worker has mom locked down (they live together), not too difficult here this time of year, but that’s where it will hit the worst and contain most of the deaths, just seeing the obit colums from saturdays paper from North Italy, very sad.
OK Sean – sorry, but like the proverbial bad penny, here I am. :-)
[They say, you can take the woman out of nursing, you’ll never take the nurse out of the woman :-) I think the same applies to being a scientists and an educator !! ]
I wont say much more in response to your comment, because there is a highly educated and very experienced man who says it much better than I have been able to. I’ve tried to show how scientific reasoning works, and I think I failed. I tried to explain, to calm everyone down, to help as I thought would be helpful in other words. I dont think I succeeded.
But maybe – just maybe – someone like this good doctor can do it better. He certainly is very understandable, and clear, and a lifelong expert in pulmonary diseases.
Before offering the link to the 10 minute presentation by this good doctor, I’d like to summarise what I said :
1. The Corona viruses is a normal mutant variety which is arising all the time as part of the host – parasite relationship between ourselves and the microbes we live with, and is going on all the time. This is just another variant.
2. the Corona virus is one of the main causes of the Common Cold [along with the Rhinoviruses] about 200 other viri cause a few % of them.
3. This panic first arose in China. They began the ferocious “mask, warning, containment, shut down Wuhan” movement.
4. Now, what we can’t determine is, did China do this out of ignorance, a cascade of Unintended Consequences and errors? Or – knowing that nothing spreads like wildfire faster than panic, and wanting to hit back at the Empire for it’s launching of warfare by various means on it, the Chinese politicians Deliberately instigated a panic situation, then sat back and watched the wildfire go. [since I know nothing of tactics and strategy Saker might have something to say about this].
5. Russia going along with it is possibly another of the those very clever ways Russia manages to stay part of the wallpaper. She seems to be going along with something just enough to avoid drawing attention to herself, but not enough to cause herself any damage.
6. We know also that the Empire + is on the edge of an economic disaster – this has been coming for a few years now and has been widely predicted – it needs something to detract from the fact that massive collapse is coming, and wants something to blame to cover it’s own guilt.
7. However, again, it would be a fantastic “return fire” from China to have staged this at the exact moment the Empire is easiest to push over.
So – along with Sakers request to not just post a link, I give you the background to what this man is telling us from the careful and very rational scientific background he has, and I add the economic aspect from two good Australian economists [whose rational about economics I honestly cant pass any comment on. I know nothing about it, and as soon as they start with the jargon, I get a violent attack of MEGO. However there are certainly others here who can understand it and comment.]. All I can say is, the gentleman reporting here has been predicting this economic disaster for years, has been mocked as a ‘”tin foil hat conspiracist” and now stands validated.
What if there is NO pandemic at all?. What if it’s the biggest hoax of all time, playing on mass ignorance of the science of microbiology and disease? What if the CoV-2019 is just another variant causing no more illness than the standard winter sicknesses but has been used as a political tool??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0xiKXrWKelTbp6HiNsoLX29jfUd6OntQxu_dk7i_p34sEVewMrEdq8oNc
What if the manufactured hysteria has been a ploy used by Govs and their GovProps to cover an unavoidable word wide economic collapse. ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLKkBXc8f0&t=1237s
I’m offering this merely for discussion and information. I offer no personal comment.
“What if the manufactured hysteria has been a ploy used by Govs and their GovProps to cover an unavoidable word wide economic collapse. ??”
Definitely not unavoidable (95% marginal income tax rate above $100,000 and 100% inheritance tax), so would be by design:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-reinfection/
However, at this juncture it’s difficult to determine whether such reports document that fully recovered COVID-19 patients truly became infected anew, or whether those persons may have relapsed or not completely recovered from their first bout of the illness. Problems with diagnostic testing techniques have been raised as one possibility to explain why some patients might have retested positive for COVID-19 after seemingly recovering:
[Such cases] are raising questions in China about the reliability of diagnostic tests, the possibility of reinfection and whether patients are wrongly designated as “recovered” and released too early from hospitals.
Scientists in and outside China agree that reinfection is a highly unlikely explanation for the patients who retest positive. They say testing errors are more likely to blame — either false negatives that resulted in patients being discharged too early, or false positives when they retested and were taken back into hospital.
Those errors could be attributed to contaminated test samples, human error while taking swabs, or an oversensitive nucleic acid test that detects strands of virus.
Pamela, yes, your numbers are the formally correct ones, and the insane response of most governments is just that .. insane. We know that governments want to look good and will do insanely stupid things to look good. Referring to the masses of Americans forced to return from Europe and having to stand in big crowds on the allowed airports for up to 5 or 7 hours, just to eventually get to a testing station. This is a special kind of stupid.
But your depiction that this has run its course somehow automatically instead of the aggressive methods that were and are still necessary and will be necessary into the future, ignores a few very salient points.
1. No, it is not over. They have only improved their medical care through hard experience in order to have a smaller death rate as well as their ability to contain. This is a containment strategy. It does not lead to something being over but leads to continual more containment. There are still literally millions of people in quarantine and if that quarantine is lifted too early, it will lead to a 2ndary wave across China. This is actually the expectation . they are ready for a 2ndary wave. The real information is that multiple Fangcang style hospitals are being constructed now in Jinzhou – a long term containment strategy is being put to work here. If it looks like it is gone from the numbers, it is not really gone.
2. No, it is not over. Two cities in Hubei opened for one day (i.e., no more containment, no more forced quarantine) and after testing, they were locked down again after opening for only one day. Yesterday the first buses taking migrant workers back to their workplaces since January started operating. Even after all this quarantine some workers were not allowed to leave and had to go back into quarantine.
3. No, it is not over. There is no immunity in the population and a person discharged from hospital or coming out of quarantine can walk down to the corner store and be re-infected again. We will live with this for a long time to come.
4. No, it is not over. All supply chains are broken. These will not be stitched together easily and there are forces working against that.
5. No it is not over. That absolutely ignores that it was brought under control with brutal methods of isolation and of quarantine of millions of people from mid-January about to mid-March. So, for 2+ months most people were not active economically. It will be over when the economics are stitched together again, and there is immunity in the population.
6. No, it is not over. Immunity will take forever to develop naturally or for some kind of treatment modality to become real. (Israel just working on this specific virus and coming up with a solution .. just now, and just by sheer coincidence .. does not count I don’t think).
8. No it is not over. The +- 80,000 infected people have such suppressed immune systems and are organ damaged (perhaps even neurologically according to recent data) to the extent that their full recovery will take a long time. So, this number of people have for all practical purposes been removed from the labor pool. In addition, around 25% of medical personnel has been laid literally lame – at this stage, removed from the labor pool So, the burden of care is increasing sharply.
9. No, it is not over. We don’t know who dun’it – we just know the political fallout is starting now and this phase will bring things in its wake that we dont know, and we cannot foresee.
10. To say it is over, is to avoid speaking about the tremendous fiscal, economic, social and psychological cost only starting to be dealt with. And to ignore completely the possibility of re-infection and lasting damage in the population.
11. No, it is not over. In each country where there was a outbreak, the virus changed form – it morphed – I use that word because the facts here are outstanding. We don’t really know as yet what we have on our hands.
12. No, it is not over. To have a sharp eye on this, one would know that there are now children infected with this virus. Look it up.
Finally, the scenario in China is now being repeated across the rest of the world .. country after country. It is not over for us – as some of my family are now in danger because some are out in public with their jobs – where the infection rate was in 1’s and 2’s, like we’ve seen in other places, it is now jumping up in the 10’s overnight and soon to double that. We personally have kicked in our self-quarantine measures yesterday. We have friends and long time commentators on The Saker blog, as well as other groups, working now to safeguard and strengthen their communities. It is not over.
The first infections in one of the biggest camp for displaced people were found just a few days ago in Iraq. This is a scenario that is truly terrifying. No, it is not over.
A presentation that it has run its course in China is in my view premature and does not present reality as she is right at this moment. This one is not a drill. Russia in fact was the very first and very early on to close borders with China and their caseload today is 55. Let this stand in reminding us that extreme measures are needed to bring this under control .. It does not go away by itself, and governments are exceedingly stupid. So, we are on our own.
There are personal ways to deal with panic. One can close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears and shout Don’t Panic very loudly and continuously. Or, one can simply face the real facts here.
amarynth I did say the epidemic was “virtually” over and in “China” . I just checked last 24 hours stats – in all China there are 34 new cases. This is a considerable drop from those recorded at the hight of the wave. IN epidemiology terms, this is a case of the wave being virtually “over” since you rarely to never get a situation where are there are 0 cases. There will still be one or two.
I understand that the main field hospital which China put up in 2 weeks is now closed.
It is good enough to draw a first conclusion from that the full wave is ~ 15 weeks, or at most 4 months – which I note is the length of time over 70’s have been condemned to house arrest for in UK.
I think as an early first figure mine are Ok. But I dont want to argue.
This might throw a new light to consider on the current situation
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/epidemic-continues-to-ease-in-china-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases-fall/story-OgAH6FHUW1v4iAMV9RaCsM.html
Not to mention this one:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/10/china-epidemic-cases-with-no-coronavirus-what/
Rappaport has a very interesting take on the social background in China, specifically the very bad air pollution problem – haven’t we all seen pictures before any epidemic, of Chinese people out in the streets wearing face masks? – and the normally high rates of pneumonia there too, and how these figures which are normal for any winter months there could well be conflating the Corona virus figures.
He does’t include the high rate of smokers among older Chinese men though, which would have broadened the picture considerably I think.
Hear, hear. Amarynth!! I intend to survive this without permanent organ ( pulmonary fibrosis) and with steely courage ( i.e. managed, appropriate fear) requiring a disciplined negative mind. I remember in the 1990’s a book called, ” You Can Not Afford the Luxury of a Negative Thought”. which I thought was treacly -sweet and a bit maudlin.
However, watching the most negative people in my over 55 community die the most quickly, I wonder if perhaps I have been a bit hasty in my judgement.
What I am discovering is ” Do not throw pearls before swine”. Now there are all sorts of higher esoteric meanings to this but as the most excellent spiritual meme maker of his times, what that Man meant on a practical level was: Do not offer pigs what they cannot assimilate. I want to rush in with “re entry into your house protocols” for my community here which might make then feel safer and maybe even in the long run make them safer; however, I can see that may not be possible. I received mental shut downs over Dr. Chuchalin’s article and over any discussions of martial law.
We have been discussing this virus here for several months and with some sophistication, but this is just blowing people new to the game out of the water . The mind set is already either/or, right or left. I can’t believe someone thought I was a Russian agent for sending them the article by Dr. Chuchalin. sigh. grrr old people.
I think we have death for the greater purpose of survival of the species—-could you imagine the likes of Biden, Hilary etc. living for a long, long time? and ruling us all.
The world has changed and the rain, well, the rain falls on the just and unjust alike.
“One can close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears and shout Don’t Panic very loudly and continuously”.
Well, as a one time front line ward nurse that is certainly not something would recommend, nor have I ever either recommended it nor done it. Indeed, having had to gown mask and glove up to handle dangerous recombinant material in a lab, I would never have broken the rules of containment – I know the dangers of hazardous waste probably better than most here, who have never had to handle it.
I have recommended balance,; I have taken the eagles view, of looking over an entire field of information and seeing a bigger picture – typical of my Jungian type I guess as an INTJ, and presented an additional picture.
I have pointed out that on the figures, the stats, the history, the biochemistry and genetics, while there is an issue to be dealt with mostly for and by those in the demographic most at risk, the overall action of certain governments and most of all their compulsive lying so-called media, who lied the West into wars in the Middle East and North Africa which have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, are the least reliable sources of information – yet are they are for some reason being accepted with the validity of Angels, and that everything they say should be discounted.
I notice another commentator reminded us of the biblical advice of “do not throw your pearls before swine.” He didn’t finish it though.
It says ” Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you
I have had, I think, enough of the rending lately to remind me of the pearls. So – I think I ‘m out of here.
Have fun folks.
You have been caught out seriously misrepresented the facts regarding CV-19 on several occasions.
The problem here is that people who believe these misrepresentations are highly likely to put themselves at added risk, just as some would do following Trump. This too is a dangerous situation …just on a much smaller scale.
I know one thing for sure… if I had been unfortunate enough to have listened to your advice from day one I would more almost certainly be dead before this month is out. And the reasons I say this…
#1 I reside in a very high-risk area that has accepted thousands of international cruise ship visitors in the last
few months
#2 I have a serious COPD pre-condition
#3 I turn 66 this year
“You have been caught out seriously misrepresented the facts regarding CV-19 on several occasions.”
Please give exact examples quoting my exact words. Since a misrepresentation is deliberate, a euphemism in fact for lying, a thing I never ever do, I regard this as a very serious slur on my character. I ask, therefor, that you substantiate it.
You are very seriously misreprenting my words here Col.
Either that, or perhaps you just dont understand. I never, ever, at any time, made any sort of representation that people like yourself, who are high risk demographic should not take all precautions, nor should not be the target of Government activity to protect. I’ve actually said as much.
I stated that the degree and amount of panic being generated by Govs and mainly their GovProps was way out of proportion to the widespread degree of risk to the community at large.
How is that “advice” that you should listen to?
You seem to have confused a generalised estimation of government behaviour with actual medical advise to a single person.
such was, most emphatically, not the case.
Please don’t go Pamela. You have a lot to contribute here. I have learned much reading your comments.
Hey guys ! Why don’t you let me rest for a while and replenish my spiritual supplies ? Pamela – you have an impetuous temperament, once I dared to give you an advise…keep it calm, nobody is hunting nobody here, what must come will come anyway, needles to hurt each other via this Cafe which is open for everybody ! I think we should be grateful for having this opportunity to talk with each other as long as we can still do that in the wake of events occurring under our eyes. As you see, I didn’t leave, how can I, when the pressure is growing by the minutes ? Col – don’t precipitate the things, keep it calm and in good manner, we are part of a gentleman agreement also, everyone has its own contribution and we have to deal with that and as a team, we have to make compromises if we don’t want to witness daily resignations for the benefit of those who want this site going off.
Excuse my intervention but I had to do it in the name of Cafe brotherhood.
Ah. I have a son and grandchildren there – Alberta. It seems the man in charge has closed your borders now – so no visits!!
I’m confused now. How did you know I’m from Alberta? Or did you refer to someone else? I can’t see anyone else commenting here in this cafe saying they are from my province. Or did I miss that? I reside in the Edmonton area.
I got mixed up siljan. It was Sean who said he was from “Canuckstan” and I meant to answer him about my family, but for some reason I hit the wrong reply button. I’m sorry – I truly didn’t mean to do that. My family dont live in Edmonton, but further North.
ioan – I’m a bit puzzled.
By impetuous,I take it you mean I reply as soon as I read a comment? Is that right? I dont otherwise know what you mean. I am strait forward, I dont try dress my words up to sound “right”. is it that? You say, keep it calm, but I am calm. I assure you ioan, I’m not throwing things here. It would upset the dogs to start with :-)
I am Welsh. We dont have a fire-breathing dragon, right forepaw raised, claws extended on our flag – for nothing. It says, “come at me and I’ll damn well flame you”. I am fine with pleasant discussion – I love it. Exchange of ideas, yes. But when someone comes at me with smear and insults, I flare.Thats me. It’s as much me as me being an Aries and also an INTJ with INFJ mix.
I recall a Russian saying, I identify with very strongly – “as you come to me, so I will respond to you. If you come to me with a sword, I will answer you with a sword”.
So – I have also noticed something sad though. The entire world, it seems to me, is getting less and less tolerant of an alternative opinion. It wasn’t so many years ago, when I was young. It’s not even “I dont agree with what you are saying. It’s more “if you say the opposite to me then you are bad, evil, wrong, stupid” In other words “either you’re with me or against me”.
I haven’t attacked anyone, even if I’m blunt and straightforward. I haven’t insulted anyone. I just have a different perspective which arises from how I view the world, my reading, experience, studies. And from some I always, everywhere these days get the “how dare you be so wicked, believe such things” etc etc. It’s as though the tension Sean mentioned, the nervous angst everywhere leading to fights over toilet rolls, is finding its way into everywhere. Even discussion forums everywhere.
it’s a bit unnerving, and I need to digest it.
Stay well, and keep with the poetry.
Thanks for your kind intervention, by the way. \
Warning signs coming in
Shots about to be fired
Community is wired
And not a little tired
Emergency powers derived
From wars too far contrived
By the powers that be
This is plain to see
On the other hand
They sit on thrones of sand
So this time is come
When truth will surely stand
what a moving contribution, ioan: “what must come will come anyway, needles to hurt each other via this Cafe which is open for everybody ! ”
I like your moderation.
Thank you very much Siljan – I came around to see if anyone had written something to me as you did – I never like to leave such comments unanswered.
I do appreciate your words, very much, and I’m glad I’ve been able to help in some small way.
“Please Miss, don’t you be leaving us!”
Those words were softly spoken into my ear by a male voice, as I had turned my face to the wall, so to speak, as I lay in the transit lounge at Papeete airport. I had been harangued by a female ground staff who literally treated me as tho I was trash.
“Do you think you can get on your flight?
What did you eat and drink in the last 24 hours?
Do you want us to call a doctor?”
“Please Miss, look into my eyes and let me know if you can hear me”
It was the gentleness that moved me to turn my head back, and I saw the beautiful brown eyes of a paramedic who proceeded to put the oxygen mask over my face.
Unforgettable moment. Unforgettable kindness
Which I repeat here for you Pamela
Please don’t you be leaving us!
Please keep saying your words and contributing your pearls.
They nurture many of us
We don’t want arguments
Let everyone say what they need to say
We all know how to scroll…
Peace and Strength to You
What a lovely story Babuska – and thankfully a good outcome for you.
Good that you had such a good person standing by too – as you say, sometimes the small words and kindness in eyes become unforgettable. It’s something I like to remember too – we seem to have so many in the West who think only “we” can practise the skills needed to save a life – you have shown how well many people despised by our nations are very very good too.
As you say – we dont want any arguments [they can cause you to burn the mango chutney you are making and have to throw it all out, as I just did :-) ].
Thank you – Peace and Strength to you too.
The image of you burning the mango chutney in your anguish reminds evokes images from my most favourite movie ever
Like Water for Chocolate
Each time I see it I weep more and laugh more
I dont know that movie, although I’ve heard of it. I’ll have to look for it.
:-) Glad it evoked a worthwhile image Babuska.
One last comment.
As a scientist with some knowledge of epidemiology and also how to structure experiments to prove or disprove hypotheses, I would like to add that, as of now, you cant really say what, if any effect, any activities, that were undertaken to contain and control this epidemic had.
We have two strands of activity running side by side. One is a viral infection. The other are some human behaviours. If we want to say “the human behaviours, ie. containment, close borders etc reduced the number of infections that WOULD have occurred had we not”, we need to question that, and say “how do we know ? Have we mounted a control where we can compare one place with NO controls and another with, and compared their stats”.
Remember, Co-relations doesn’t equal causation
Just because various containment activities were performed, we dont know if they had any effect on the virus infection wave, because we have no way of measuring that. All we have are suppositions, projections, computer models based on a variety of assumptions — but NO proof. It’s actually a very difficult thing to do, because there are so many variables to cover for; maybe Russia does have a lower rate of infection, and also closed borders with China, but there could well be another reason for he lower infection rate, and the border closures didnt have any effect.
All I have done, as is usual in these cases, is look at when it first reared it’s ugly head, and the date the numbers became substantially less, little above background for all colds for example. That how epidemics are measured. For example. we still have the Influenza A N1H1 which caused Spanish Flu 100 yrs ago – but we dont consider that it’s same epidemic.
Dear Pamela
There are people here, I’m sure, unaware of the ethics and protocols of ‘the scientific method’, which are rigorous and strict.
This being a Café, when scientists refute each other’s facts and statements, the resultant effects on some readers ends up in confusion / bewilderment etc. Most here have already reached their own positions and conclusions.
I agree with you that personal boundaries have been crossed. You are of course, free to leave. Like Raskolnikov, your Presence would be sorely missed.
As ioan has said, and we mostly know, in these times it is better to co/operate and help each other through tough, sad, lonely and confusing times
Yes,you are right about my referring to a method not common knowledge.
I am at fault there, as it didn’t occur to me that thats what I was doing. It’s the only way I know to refer to such things, not being trained in diplomacy :-)
Also I hate to seem to “talk down” by using a language when I haven’t explained myself. My standard default is to offer an explanation as help. As I said once to my daughter after I got confused about her needing her “eyepad” and me saying “But what’s wrong with your eyes, do you have an infection” and her explaining what an ipad is, I said “You have to remember darling, I always default to the medical model” at which she laughingly agreed. I guess I always default to the scientific as well.
The times are certainly bad and likely to get worse – and it makes me so angry. I feel so many thousands suffering from a combination of ignorance – at government and bureaucrat levels, with some purely oligarchic manipulation thrown in, from GovProps making money by generating scare headlines, to Gov leaders doing a sort of “anything you can do, I can do better” – and on the ground thousands of scared, frozen people running out of money because how can you do your cleaning from home?.
I just got a message from a friend in Aus, asking me if I think the problem will blow over soon. He has just come from a meeting with an investor who was going to start up his new business – now of course, it’s “sorry but..” He tells me “”””the markets are crashing fast here [Aus]. major panic on around jobs, airline announcing a 90% international and 60% domestic flights to be cancelled within the month. Friends in mining are calling me to see if I know of any work. I dont’ in fact, if there is no work for a couple of weeks my only hope is to try my luck going racing!! I’m trying to live on an exchange rate 0.58 and sliding – and all due to this.
As you say, it’s better to have friends and co-operate through such times.
“but we dont consider that it’s same epidemic.”
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic
Although the death toll attributed to the Spanish flu is often estimated at 20 million to 50 million victims worldwide, other estimates run as high as 100 million victims—around 3 percent of the world’s population.
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When the 1918 flu hit, doctors and scientists were unsure what caused it or how to treat it. Unlike today, there were no effective vaccines or antivirals, drugs that treat the flu. (The first licensed flu vaccine appeared in America in the 1940s.
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By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.
Almost 90 years later, in 2008, researchers announced they’d discovered what made the 1918 flu so deadly: A group of three genes enabled the virus to weaken a victim’s bronchial tubes and lungs and clear the way for bacterial pneumonia.
Some more numbers on the back of a cigarette packet…
https://ourworldindata.org/spanish-flu-largest-influenza-pandemic-in-history
How do these estimates compare with the size of the world population at the time? How large was the share who died in the pandemic?
Estimates suggest that the world population in 1918 was 1.8 billion.
Based on this, the low estimate of 17.4 million deaths by Spreeuwenberg et al. (2018) implies that the Spanish flu killed almost 1% (0.95%) of the world population.
If we rely on the estimate of 50 million deaths published by Johnson and Mueller, it implies that the Spanish flu killed 2.7% of the world population. And if it was in fact higher – 100 million as these authors suggest – then the global death rate would have been 5.4%.”
If this were true (no idea if it is reasonable) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/25/spanish-flu-pandemic-1918-forgetting-100-million-deaths
“But when you read that a third of the entire global population probably caught the Spanish flu”
and we assume, mid-line, that 2.7% of the global population died then we have a death rate, among those infected, of
2.7% x 3 = 8.1%
If CV-19 is both as contagious and as deadly as A N1H1 then, at the same level of containment effort as occurred in 1918, we might expect (without vaccine) total global deaths of
7.7B x 2.7% = 162 million
Will isolation techniques cause more death by starvation (economic impact) and psycholgical effects (loneliness) than that while the $billionaires continue to party like it’s 1999?
I don’t know.
No Martial Law here, yet, but what I saw when out shopping was something I have never seen, zombified looks on faces, dour actually, basicly, controlled panic, if that exists.
Where is your “here” Sean??
Canuckistan
Which bit? you is bigger than Europe.
I did reply to this but somehow managed to hit a reply somewhere else :-)
I just said that my son and grandchildren live there – Alberta.
your Big Boss him No.1. has close the borders n’est pas- so no visits for the foreseeable.
Cheers to the Welsh, are you still there, my cous from Belfast just married a Welsh bloke and moved there……one day, if age and covid don’t get me, I’d love to go there, but alas, I have this anti English stumbling block……..it’s a Northern Irish Catholic thingy only cured by death!
I’m in Manitoba about an hour outside the Peg. We actually self isolated ourselves from the big shitty about six years ago.
No to my sorrow. I married an Australian years ago, and because I believed in the Naomi Principle – in fact still do [“whither tho goest will I go etc” ] I went there with him.
I’m in Ecuador now because of economics – I want to be in Russia as a regular visitor to Wales, but cant be.
And like you, I wont live there {Cymru} because of the **** English. Like Northern Ireland, we are still too much under the stick of a Westminster which loathes and despises us – so I’d rather visit .
Sounds like your self – isolation move was a good one. My son and his family went as far north in Alberta as Garden River, – where the road north runs out and you have to hike to go further!!
Now they are closer in, but planning for an off grid home, away from any town. He teaches his kids to shoot and they take karate lessons as part of his self sufficiency away from the Big S*. You’d sympathise i suspect :-)
sorry Babushka -the older I get-the more confused.
It’s definitely a ridiculous big lie face-saving measure in the first world.
I just found the stat for the EU, with 500MM appx, there’s 12 intensive care hospital beds allocated per 100,000 citizens at any time.
I assume that bed would include a dedicated ventilator, 24/7 nurse bedside, etc…
Yet they are all, every country like Italy UK, France somehow homed in on spouting 50-80% of pop. to be infected within 12 months!? (UK has the high-end bingo call, at 80%).
so all the numbers are so hysterically out of whack, they’re meaningless in the real world.
Another stark statistic mentioned on a internet talkshow a week ago, not seen or heard mentioned by anyone since, is “why in 2003 with SARS was there zero orchestrated panic by/in the west to the degree we’re seeing now in 2020 with this beer virus?”
Answer takes you right to the heart of it: in 2003, China had a mere 3% of value of all global trade (despite being only slightly less pop. then, perhaps 1.3B). In 2019, it was 17%.
That’s very interesting tom, and you raise a good point i have not seenbefore – the link iwth China’s share of global trade.
In fact, later than 2003, in 2009 we had this epidemic which I mentioned below, but it’s more relevant here I think.
Deaths l location Yr Name Cause / microbe
151,700 – 575,400 Worldwide 2009 2009 flu pandemic Influenza A virus subtype H1N1
The Influenza A subtype H1N1 is the same virus which caused the 1918 “Spanish” flu which killed millions – it is therefor to be much feared. Does anyone remember anything like this in 2009 – 11 yrs ago??
I wonder what Chinas’ trade share was then.
So – perhaps it was a boosted natural variant designed to damage China, not just to cause deaths and big social issues but to make her look bad on the international trade stage thus damaging her credibility as a trading colleague.
And what we have now is exactly what Saker forecast would happen if you use biological agents — blowback.
There is also another aspect to this background of Economics as the business of Politics, and perhaps where and why the current viral panic stems from.
We do see that the Occult Gov and USA have been mounting attacks on China, but we also know that the Anglo Empire own economy has been reamed out, debt based and worthless and on the edge of collapse.
This link might illuminate for many.
I admit that finances aren’t my sphere – I dont get the jargon, – but I think these two economic experts may have something valuable to say.
They certainly seem to be of the opinion that it’s not a virus “its’ the economy, stupid”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLKkBXc8f0
Hi Babushka
I too, live on the beach but without a husband or car. And no television.
So I’m expressing deep gratitude here for our virtual Café, and for the excellent job Woolworths is doing honouring its online orders/deliveries and now opening an hour early for the elders.
Kudos to the staff of these supermarkets as they deal with the hordes that follow
I took advantage of the early opening this morning and am happy to report how sweet and thoughtful people were in general. One picked up my dropped glasses; another helped me with mushrooms and a paper bag; another woman walked straight into my face and whispered the zip on my jeans had slipped down.
Laughter!
But yes, a lot of empty shelves. How do we expect new supplies when so many are isolated?
Yes it’s all mad/chaotic and I do believe it’s a manufactured crisis to create opportunities.
I tell my kids that there is a global pushback against the agenda that so many recognise as belonging to the globalists.
I was meant to fly back to my mother’s house today and all three of my kids, remembering the last time I fell off a plane, begged me to not go, after hearing about the 77 year old who died in Sydney yesterday.
As we already know, these people have underlying issues. This lady did. She had been infected by her daughter on return from San Francisco.
I know you probably know this, but I mention it to illustrate Sean the leprechaun’s point about the spread of infection and how inexpressibly sad it is for the families of those who died. The stories out of Italy are truly sad.
So I did not travel back to Sydney. I’ll wait this out, aware that all sorts of systems are concomitantly collapsing…
We all face ‘new normal’ whatever that is
Thank You for your kind words
Peace and blessings to You also
The new normal is better than the old normal b/c the old normal was based on an accelerated insanity that has pinnacled to create the new normal.
In the end it will be a better place if we never returned to the old normal, but being humans, they probably will, its their nature.
Dear Alabama the new normal is what you and I make it :-)
Peace and blessings to You
I never abided by the old normal to begin with, insanity was not my thing, i only had to manage it to the degree it did not affect me, and it hasnt, nor ever shall. Tks and same to you and yours.
Hi Babuška
We seem to have so many similar experiences, that people were beginning to think we were one. So I felt the need to express my earlier statement.
Sydney is closing down. Just heard from daughter — PLC (girls school) closed from Thursday, grandaughter said Macquarie University just closed…
I went to usual pilates class this morning, but I think this will be the last for some time. My pilates teacher is a single mother with two children and a mortgage – she has no hope of surviving this economic storm. My usual cafe was bare of customers … I think this will be my last cafe coffee for some time.
I follow this food newsletter written by Nagi, from Sydney north shore… she has some good tips on meal plans, a shopping list of pantry staples, what you can use as substitutes and what to substitute or what food can be frozen etc. (I didn’t know you could freeze butter, for example). Others might find some useful tips here.
https://www.recipetineats.com/coronavirus-menu-plan-1/
Blessing and virtual hugs to everyone – ‘social distancing’ is the new normal.
At least a walk along a deserted and breathing salt air is still allowed.
@ Babushka in Oz and Babuška
Ladies, because you are so lovely and good intended, here’s a nice piece of music :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxidjMJK9f4 What Is A Youth – By Glen Weston – Lyrics – full song (Perfect version)
A very big Thank You dear ioan from my heart, for your exquisite offering
Well do I remember those fierce passions of my youth. Glad I survived them to deal with on-going ‘grown-up’ issues
You are integral to the well-being of our community 🙏
Blessings of Peace and Joy to You
Babushka in Oz and Babuška
I’m feeling two Slavic grand mothers down under, wide horizon.
My question: will there be, or is there in Oz astrological mind, doing what
no other mind can do for your hemisphere. In three days we start Spring,
what an constricting Spring, Mars in Capricorn + Pluto+ Jupiter. While you
are settling for the Winter-half year.
But you use to use our northern code, winter-end = Pisces, Spring is Aries.
And , the South waives to use an own, e.g. aborigine-born heavenly calendar,
may it be so, but then with consciousness, that the heaven in the south ascends
right-hand and descends left hand having consequences for the southern zodiac.
These are my questions, to you mothers in the south dealing with the s y m b o l i c l i f e
which is the other non-temporal existence – in time – which we call spirit.
We are all going to leave the temporal existence, some earlier some later, who knows?
But what will be the meaning of the remaining time – – –
What is the meaning of this break? We got extra – time, northern time, northern crisis rules the planet.
Where is the southern heavenly spirit, when we need it?
Hug, to you two,
mundo
Dear friends… thank you
I have been here a long time, since 2014, and feel the love that encircles the world via this cafe. I have goosebumps and its not because our celestial heavens and equinox have moved to a new season. Autumn down here brings a coolness to the mornings and a dew on the ground. Usually a season of calm and winding down after the rough summer.
But instead we have a weird calm before the storm fills the air… what will the govt do today. A few steps away from total lockdown.
Each night I look at the stars and see our Southern Cross constellation and the Pointer, and Big Dipper and remind myself that we are all connected by the same sky.
Safe save everyone… we will get through this.
Thank You dear mundo for your kind words
I’m not sufficiently knowledgeable to answer your astrological question, I’m sorry
In the temporal space I’m very much a hybrid misfit but in Spirit I am with all the indigenous races including and especially the Australian dream time and the Russian Soul.
In my early days in Australia I lived three years in an immigration centre administered by colonist Anglos. I questioned and hated this system, accustomed as I had become to all things Dutch, in my first seven years on this Planet.
What ‘saved’ me was the total freedom to mingle with hundreds of other kids from all nationalities displaced during WWll. All our parents went out to work and we were provided with a school, cinema, churches of varying denominations and hundreds of acres of glorious ‘bush’.
It was with these families that I came to understand/identify with the Russian /Slavic Soul, and something in me absorbed like a sponge, the Spirit of the Australian Dreamtime. I literally floated through life avoiding the Anglo/Australian strictures to the best of my abilities.
Of course, this also brought many real life difficulties…which were resolved, one by one, only with the help of Saints and Angels in the service of the One
In 2010 I was resolved to leave Australia, but again, my way was not God’s way, so here I am
I understand at some intuitive level your astrological exposé, but I’m inadequate to the task of discourse. I don’t know anyone here who does the work to your standards.
I’ll leave it here, as I go to find a you tube video to sign-off. It’s the “how” of the name I chose many many years ago, in honour of all the grandmothers our world has ever known, and my own grandmothers from whom I was torn asunder at the tender age of 7
It was when I came to the inescapable conclusion of the cold-blooded cruelties and sadism practiced by those who rule over us
Blessings of Peace and Grace to You dear mundo
You too are integral to the well-being of our Café
Oh! Babushka
By The Fureys & Davey Arthur
Dear mundo I could not find it on you tube but is available on Spotify
I have had the CD for many decades: it moves me every time
Dear Babuška, thank you for your warm reply. It’s indeed the intuitive level of our understanding
to which the symbolic language of the zodiac talks, helping us to live what Jung called the symbolic life,
as we got to live two lives, one in the realm of what is now and one in the realm of what is eternal.
Stay well and Blessings to you two old Ladies, young by heart, in Oz, glad to have you in the Cafe.
P.s. The Fureys & Davey Arthur are fine for me to listen to, in the kitchen when I do the dishes. That’s my
favorite musical corner.
Thank You dear mundo
What you say is amazingly, totally true yet so many folks discard what is so freely available to everyone.
I have done serious dream work with a spiritual director for many years and my dreams are veritable ‘movies’ which over time have been either prophetic or compensating or showing me how God sees me when the ego-ic me is blundering.
Again, I’m no physicist but I intuit the quantum field as you say. It is truly miraculous and no one and nothing can take it away from me: it is
You may remember when I first came to this Café I would have said something about living in Germany with my young family when my husband was posted to British Army on the Rhine – 1973-5
We even went thru the oil crisis – I was last stage labour taken to BAOR Hospital Hannover from our married quarter in Wolfenbuttel, in an army land rover through frozen ice and snow-
ouch
It was the ‘fairy tale come true’ for me and I really adored our life for two years in your beautiful country. We travelled a lot and I can just ‘see’ you in your cosy kitchen- is there a kitchen in Germany that is not cosy? – with your bride as you do chores together with music.
Ah German food – seriously yummy.
Thank You for the great work you do here mundo
I also live in Australia. Look on the bright side, no Anzac hoo-ha and no public sport. Hooray!
Yes, the host & denizens here at this forum are waiting & cringing for the onslaught of indigent sports fans assaulting the ramparts, so rudely tossed out of their regular haunts online since there are no more endless streams of sports stats & trivia from the past day for them to analyze & dissect.
I picture the scene in Beau Geste where Telly & Beau et al are assaulted by those unruly & rude locals, miffed that the stinking (from the desert heat, you know) FFL Frenchies dared to build a fort on their lands.
and speaking of sports cancelled:
Here’s how the NadaBasketballAnywhere league initially proposed to handle this —pretty hilarious:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28897195/inside-nba-coronavirus-shutdown-how-tense-hours-changed-everything?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Facing concerns over the coronavirus outbreak, the Golden State Warriors had announced that they would host the Brooklyn Nets on Thursday with no fans at the Chase Center in San Francisco. Then, at 3:30 p.m. ET, the league’s owners had met via conference call and left with the expectation that NBA commissioner Adam Silver would soon declare that all games would proceed without fans.
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The thread of the analysis of this crisis is fairly clear now.
The effects witnessed are what one might expect when viewed from the perspective of a multi dimensional hybrid war.
To be honest none of what is playing out now is surprising given all we already know.
This learning stretches far back into history.
I am an Irishman and know well the perversions of “Perfidious Albion”and its minions.
After all it was Oliver Cromwell,
a general much lauded in British history,which,interestingly does not mention his genocide of Irish people (in the tens & tens of thousands).
Cromwell’s campaign in Ireland was financed by the ancestors of the banking cabal that now seeks to take over the assets they were unable to steal following the 2008 crash.Again in this little island a lot of us know this clearly.
Already in UK the gov is proposing to quarantine,a euphemism,lock up people over 70,(our wise peers and loved ones)in their homes in a “shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted” exercise.
On Friday they referred to their citizens as a “Herd” in the context of “Herd immunity”
In law the “Power of words “is well understood.
It’s well known that one ideology refers to people as “animals to be farmed”
Cheltenham horse racing festival was allowed to proceed last week ….I mean what could go wrong when you place thousands of arrogant drunken rich in such an environment !!!
BTW …GCHQ is virtually next door to this racecourse.
There are multiple dimensions to what we see in front of us and we all bring a unique perspective.
I am merely an observer here (the world)trying to live a peaceful existence and make sense of the physical manifestations of conniving,free thinking,morally unrestrained behaviour.
I have a strong sense that many here are similarly disposed.
Hopefully,together we can think and feel our way trough this …we ain’t seen nothin yet and to a large extent we are on our own now.
We must step back a few paces to observe and be very careful what we say and do.
Laws will be passed in panic curtailing our already limited notion of “freedom”
Governments,in the western sphere will be incapable of any response that is going to help us ….the damage is already done in terms of the spread and the “mind virus” is far worse than the physical.
God bless all
tom, don’t worry!
The NFL is showing strong leadership, refusing to cancel the Spring Drafts of athletes and early gladiator trading …..calming the childish sports addicted masses that their fantasy world “normality” will not be interrupted for anything short of nuclear war…..while those weenie girlie men in the NCAA have cancelled the College “World” (the main part of it…for college baseball…don’t be offended. Rest of the World…LOL) Series….many months from now…in summer!
So, what’s the problem?? You have the whole human spectrum, from hysterical overreaction to stoic stubborn denial to choose from!.
Or one can calmly wash hands, eat healthy food…and go into hermit mode while pondering more deeply the causes of things,as Harley Schlanger does this morning.
You said:
“To be honest none of what is playing out now is surprising given all we already know. This learning stretches far back into history.”
Yes it does!
But it also stretches forward right up to the present day…in more places than Albion…but let me draw particular attention to the statements of the UK Science Advisor there, Sir Patrick Valence..(Sp???) …..who literally praises the situation as a Godsend….providing the needed opportunity….for the UK to gain “herd immunity”.. (such a charming steward of the land….lol) and to cull the UK’s own “home herd” of the elderly “expensive excess”….”useless eaters” echoes the Daily Telegraph’s Jeremy Warner:
https://youtu.be/_LjFqrNrpGU?t=331
Those gentlemen may grasp some of the principles of farm animal husbandry and governance.
But those principles are not the same as the principles of better human governance……demonstrated far better today in China…..than what these two throwbacks to feudalism, a few miles east of you…. recommend.
Source Reveals Why NATO Warships in Black Sea Can’t Collect Intelligence Against Russian Fleet
https://sputniknews.com/military/202003161078578603-source-reveals-why-nato-warships-in-black-sea-cant-collect-intelligence-against-russian-fleet/
“NATO warships sailing near Russia’s borders in the Black Sea around the Crimean peninsula are virtually incapable of carrying out any useful reconnaissance thanks to the Russian military’s powerful coastal electronic warfare systems, a source in the region’s security apparatus has said.
Commenting on the alliance’s “attempt to penetrate” the region’s “communications and digital networks,” the source indicated that this was made impossible as a result of the deployment and real-world testing of the latest electronic warfare countermeasures.
According to the source, Russia’s electronic countermeasures are powerful enough not only to make snooping impossible, but to screw up warships’ navigation systems, resulting in false readings on their current coordinates.“
The pindos have to cease their threatening anti-Russian posturing in Europe for a little while:
US milit ary says that in response to the current outbreak of COVID19 & recent guidance by Esper, Defender Europe2020 has been modified in size & scope. As of March 13, all movement of personnel & equipment from the US to Europe has ceased.
If nations claim a 200 mile zone for economic development off-shore, they should (Russia, China, Iran–the capable ones) claim 200 miles from their borders as no intrusion for drones, ships, planes seeking to probe their defenses.
The incessant NATO and US push toward and pressing forward against Russia should be greeted with a warning and then a punishment. Particularly, all UAVs should be taken down. No loss of life. Loss of big investment in some of US’s big birds. Also, soon heavily armed UAV bombers will be flying the same intrusive and dangerous routes. So, stop the program now with significant costs to the warmongers.
There’s only one way to stop a bully who invades your space. You have to break his nose and kneecap. Cripple the thugs.
The thing is, can Russia do that under international law, given that apart from her sea borders, she would be demanding to have jurisdiction over a neighbouring nation?
If she could i agree with you – this bringing of more increased numbers of military, tanks etc to conduct ‘”exercises ” right up to Russias border is beyond rude – its dangerous.
Good news, US-Led Coalition Closing Several Bases in Iraq Following Rocket Attacks – Reports
I think they need to go home, and take care of their families. Enough is enough.
Promises to keep?
Its early days, but seemingly Benny Gantz has been asked to draw together a coalition. Netanyahu will be out seemingly, but bear in mind Gantz is equally military and has threatened the Gaza strip many times.
Anyway, fwiw. (financial times – perhaps you do not want to give them a click :-)
https://www.ft.com/content/dba66d28-66db-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3
There are no tangible differences between Israeli war criminals:
David Ben-Gurion (first time, 1948–53)
Moshe Sharett (1953–55)
David Ben-Gurion (second time, 1955–63)
Levi Eshkol (1963–69)
Golda Meir (1969–74)
Yitzhak Rabin (first time, 1974–77)
Menachem Begin (1977–83)
Yitzḥak Shamir (first time, 1983–84)
Shimon Peres (first time, 1984–86)
Yitzḥak Shamir (second time, 1986–92)
Yitzhak Rabin (second time, 1992–95)
Shimon Peres (second time, 1995–96)
Benjamin Netanyahu (first time, 1996–99)
Ehud Barak (1999–2001)
Ariel Sharon (2001–06)
Ehud Olmert (2006–09)
Benjamin Netanyahu (second time, 2009– )
Can anyone honestly point to any on the list that sought genuine peace with the Palestinians?
All have waged wars of choice and perpetrated assassinations, torture, land theft, house demolitions and daily murder.
Pick anyone from the list and We can guarantee that a documented massacre can be easily attributed to same.
Selah
Selah
Gantz’s goose is crook-there are bigger places than Israel.
Yesterday Pamela linked a video of Ukrainians attacking the Russian Embassy in Kiev within this comment:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2020-03-12/#comment-774439
and asked, “what is the gang chanting?”.
I don’t know but my wife follows the news back home in Russia and she warned a few days ago that there is a new movement in Ukraine demanding that Russia cede some neighboring land (in addition to Crimea…and not Donbass….maybe just east of Belarus???)…and make it snappy!
I hadn’t heard anything about this demand from anyone else. Maybe we’ll see an article here about it, but it is possible that COVID-19 will take the starch out of the stiffness of these demands…….and disperse the crowds of chanters with swastika flags, as several of the comments belwo Pamela’s video suggest.
A few of the most ironically, stoically Russian in character:
አንቻሮ/Ancharo Tube
1 day ago
We all know who is behind these barking dogs!!! But the bear ignored them!!!
Bee be Cee
1 day ago (edited)
Maidan 2.0
Nuland handing out dog biscuits in the back there somewhere.
ℛɛᴛʀᴏ ℛɛᴅ
1 day ago
The Russians won’t have to do anything, cause Corona will do it for them.
My view from a safe distance:
It seems like massed troop exercises and threatened invasions by larger, more complex organisms (humans) (as well as demonstrations of closely packed persons expelling large volumes of pulmonary air to be breathed by others ..) are somewhat passe these days……but that message is slow to penetrate some brains in Ukraine.
I did reply to you Bro93 about this, and thanked you for the information. It seems to have got lost!!
Actually it was (innocent) disinformation!
It is not a slice of Russia east of the Belarus border with Russia they are demanding. But now I know where Kursk, the Mother of ALL Tank Battles is located! I can see why they might not want to contest that area again. (sarc)
I finally got a more specific briefing from the California Russian monitoring news back home:
Their Ukie brothers have been blowing fuses about blowing up the new bridge at Kerch for some time now. but some deeper thinkers among them are calming them momentarily, saying,
“NO, we shouldn’t blow it up, because the bridge is good. AND, it is good because it should be ours, and we can claim it, since Crimea is ours. But we are owed more in reparations than just this bridge, so to secure its eastern end, we need that land over there,”
She says they call this land either Kuban’ area…after the Kuban’ River that goes through it…or Krasnodar…after the biggest town or city within the area they demand as compensation.
But who knows if these are the same demands as those of the Russian Embassy attackers in Kiev??
I get a sense that the list of demands may never end……
If you bury your dreams to deep,
you have nothing to complain about when they dont come true.
If you have no mask, here is some bio-protection :-)
https://www.sott.net/image/s28/560584/medium/bioprotection.jpg
Hahahahah, yellow onion would work much better.
I was thinking to utilize full face snorkeling masks, such as these.
It would be relatively easy to integrate hepa filter plugin.
Actually, I like it better!
Only I would hollow out the green part, leaving a narrow breathing tube within the mask……..on the assumption that inhaling fresh air from that part of the onion mask would still add sufficient onion molecules from the interior of the mask, while keeping one from asphyxiation due to inhaling too much of one’s own carbon dioxide.
I was at a construction site indoors about ten days ago, where the project manager handed out the standard fiber masks because they were installing insulation that day. I noticed that it was mainly a liability protection move on his part, as all the guests touring the project, except for 1…AND the manager and I, as well soon removed their masks. It is so much nicer to breathe cool air! Unless you actually see insulation fibers floating around in it.
The Mexican construction workers, on the other hand…ALL kept their masks on indoors, and apparently all day
Meanwhile my TaiChi brothers and sisters cancelled practice at the center but gave everyone an App for their smart phones so everyone could “meet” remotely. The two presenters wore masks, as though (I observed….lol) the virus might be transmitted electronically.
NO. What the mask does, mainly, it seems to me…is raise consciousness in others noticing it to exercise unusual caution. So I don’t ridicule any type of mask……
N-95 masks( disposables) have filters which do get wet which is why you carry another one in your pocket–there are others with charcoal which last longer before needing a trade out ( my permanent mask has a valve which unscrews and is exchangeable, replaceable.)
in Illness
Haiku, by Kobayashi Issa
Utsukushi ya
Shoji no ano no
Ama-no-gawa
What loveliness
Seen through a crack in the wall
The River of Heaven
stirred up in passing,
ripples on the surface;
a human life once lived
MSM out hyperventilating blowing heavy smoke for their favorite smokescreen story now for sure.
look where this magazine article is published.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
Wuhan-based virologist Shi Zhengli has identified dozens of deadly SARS-like viruses in bat caves, and she warns there are more out there.
i’m since reflecting on all this over the weekend leaning toward this entire unfolding as a biblical backfire on those who financed,designed, & released this, because China many pointed out locked down about what 500MM people in those cities in a flash, before any news was even out in the west about it. almost like they knew it was coming & had many months or years to prepare.
CHINESE FINGER TRAP?
https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/puzzle-game-logic-games-concept-260nw-1329933914.jpg
Course, even if they were asleep on everything and all the machinations right up until they heard that turk ultra-nationalist bragging openly & serially on twitter last August 2019 about what China had coming & when,
that alone would have given them 3-4 months warning.
But really most interesting of all is that stark comment at a forum in russia by putin on nov 14/2019, a comment far more exact & foreboding than anything i’ve ever heard him say in 15 years, that “the us dollar will COLLAPSE very soon”. Not just ‘soon’.
It is now burning out (hopefully, what fraction of 1 % it affects) in the west, inflicting enormous collateral economic damage.
even our illustrious leader mr. muppet emerged from his hidey-hole, like some tardy groundhog weeks too late to be relevant to anything.
Perhaps it would help to put the current situation into some sort of perspective and explain why people like myself, Jon Rappoport, Marcus Papadopoulos [guest speaker on RT’s Crosstalk] et al have taken the view of the current Panic-demic we have.
Here is a list of known and recorded epidemics from recorded history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
and yes, I know, Wikipedia, is usually about as reliable as a chocolate tea pot but in cases like this where there is no real Occult State political advantage to be gained and too many people world wide can openly dispute it, I suspect it’s OK.
First, it shows how much a normal part of human life on this planet which we share with many microbial parasites, such waves of “new” infections are and how often they occur everywhere.. Most of these bugs live in the background constantly – typhus, cholera etc. It takes either a bad break in social controls such as good potable drinking water, controlled sewerage etc, or, often a new mutant will survive [the vast majority of mutations in all animal forms are deleterious to the organism] and break human immune barriers for a short while.
Thus, the current epidemic is nothing new and in fact is natural, and to be expected. It’s no Black Swan, that’s for sure.
Secondly, it shows an interesting fact from recent times.
Look at this:
Deaths location Yr Name Cause / microbe
151,700 – 575,400 Worldwide 2009 2009 flu pandemic Influenza A virus subtype H1N1
The Influenza A subtype H1N1 is the same virus which caused the 1918 “Spanish” flu which killed millions – it is therefor to be much feared.
Does anyone remember anything like this current hysteria then? It caused between 150 – 575 K deaths. CoV-2019 has caused – 6,700 world wide but most in China
So – why no hysteria back in 2009? No lockdowns, house arrests, panic buying, dropping of all public venue activities?
Do you see what I ‘m getting at??
Now I’m asking myself – what would an aggressor have to gain from having a targeted people terrified, locked in their houses with Armed Forces patrolling the streets as in UK?
I dont know.
Are they about to announce something which would have the masses rioting?
Are they going to launch some damn stupid war – as the Chief of Russians Forces, Gerasimov said only recently “we have come to the conclusion that they {US, NATO} are planning war!!
I dont know, and I wonder what Saker would think of this as a strategy / tactic.
I dont know, but I dont like it.
I am with you Pamela. Our MSM hold this corona curtain in front of our eyes while there is something else happening behind this curtain.
Shortly Canadian PM is holding press conference, I don’t care what script he announces I be watching for his tone of voice to spot lies.
Here he comes
Did his reappearance look like this?
https://digitalshortbread.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/gopher_caddyshack_feature1_fotor.jpg
I’m allll-rrrrright
Nobody worry ’bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can’t you just let it be?
Do-do-do-do-do
I just found this link popped up on my YouTube Index page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBi7YHbNdWA
Its from a good, small stream monitoring the world events around us, called Truth Stream. It has a lot of subscribers, but I cant say I know it well.
But this is good – and interesting. It’s called “Fear is the Killer” and its actually taken from an episode of The Twilight Zone – she incorporates some of it’s closing lines and scenes, but mostly she documented the panic sweeping her home town, the insane behaviours of people not remotely threatened by anything – her county has not one single case of CoV2019..
She has a balanced, interesting presentation of another perspective on this entire scenario playing out, and as she says, panic, the stress it causes, has so many bad physiological effects, and does attack the one thing you want right now, — a strong immune system.
Anyway, I was curious about its cropping up unsought – I dont know how many have heard of the Library Angel, But I’m definitely starting to converse with an Internet Angel !! :-)
I just thought Id’ share for anyone interested.
Pam-me and my step-son were discussing this in depth this very morning-well,you know, as deep as it can go between like minds-the fear will compromise or even kill isolated people who are not even allowed to panic.It’s all right for me and him-we don’t give a toss.Panic is the safety valve for people who do care.
https://youtu.be/erCCzcd9eYA—–never been all that keen on this guy-but there again I ain’t too keen on myself atmo.
Italy has friends.
China has sent medical teams and supplies.
Cuba has sent doctors and supplies and a Cuban medicine that has been effective against several viruses.
Venezuela has sent medical support.
While Trump has apparently tried to grab a European scientist who is developing a vaccine and make it exclusively an American vaccine. If this story is true, it is abysmal. I don’t know if it is true or fake news, so don’t go nuts over it.
All the while, the US demonizes China but China has been testing US medicines under US controls.
So the news is mixed. Some of it is beautiful. Some of it is filthy.
The German company CureVac CEO Daniel Menichola visited with pres. Trump and v.pres Pence in the WhiteHouse. CureVac had publically claimed developing a potent vaccine within a few months. Now the top representatives that met with pres. Trump have been replaced after german politicians became aware that pres. Trump had offered CureVac a billion dollars for exclusive delivery of the production vaccine to the US. The story is spreading among the anti-Trump MSM and seem to have a basis in facts.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/not-for-sale-anger-in-germany-at-report-trump-seeking-exclusive-coronavirus-vaccine-deal
The death toll from Italy are surprisingly high according to MSM figures : 7.7 %
2158 deaths of covid-19 from 27980 diagnosed cases.
So, just out … Russia is closed for foreign nationals until May – outdoor events banned, schools closed, indoor crowds restricted.
Canada is closed for everyone excepting US nationals until further notice.
Check RT for details.
This virus is going to turn our world upside down in ways that we cannot envisage today.
I have some ‘gossip’ in terms of the underlying finances, but it must wait a little more.
“This virus is going to turn our world upside down in ways that we cannot envisage today.”
May I respectfully disagree, it will be those rulers of ours who will turn our world upside down, facilitating current crisis to achieve that. we will give them our permission while singing their song on the way to slaughterhouse. One or two enlighten don’t matter.
Yes our world will end up upsides down.
“None are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”
Goethe
Excellent comment IMHO – and thank you for it.
This is indeed something that is getting lost isn’t it? We see so much in GovProp outlets of “The virus is causing an economic free fall”,. “the virus is causing social dislocation “etc etc.
No. The virus is causing a number of 5 day colds which are uncomfortable, except among the health compromised elderly where it i causing severe illness and some deaths, as do all of it’s kind, every winter
EVERYTHING ELSE is being caused by those who confer the benefits of misbegotten, self seeking but above all ignorant, Governments, everywhere.
To your excellent quote from Goethe, may I add one from Gustave le Bon ““The tyranny exercised unconsciously on men’s minds is the only real tyranny, because it cannot be fought against.” Gustave le Bon “A Study of the Popular Mind”
This is the discussion America will be having soon . My friend is driving LA to pick up her daughter from UCLA, to clean out her dorm room on Wednesday and then they will be off to a small town in N. California . So We are to live at home, educate at home and self medicate at home so who needs the central government any more? let’s self rule at home!
I expect the powers that be shall have to bring the armed means of state repression back home soon in order to put us all under martial law. These Dim-Dem Techie elites will not go quietly for sure.
My brother called from Puerto Rico and says no one trusts the government and so everyone is stocking up on food. I advised him that he might consider leaving the island because what is easier to quarantine than an island? The black market rate off on a private boat might well be thousands of dollars, plus having to deal with unsavory characters who already no how to slip in and out of the island might be fraught with complications.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/things-have-changedat-least-wartime-bars-stay-open
Sweden and Great Britain will seek to have 60 % of their population infected with SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus to achieve herd immunity. It seems like a crazy idea, and it certainly is one, as it is based on vaccine propaganda.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidemiologist-britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-covid-19
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fji2x4/sweden_state_epidemiologist_our_plan_is_the_same/
Great Britain have become a totalitarian superstate that do not care for the well being of its people. Sweden have for a long time been known for radicalisation of the government.
Coronavirus is certainly no vaccine and it is a very bad idea even for people that normally endorse vaccination which also have become a bad idea since vaccines have become the tool of the totalitarian new world order which is for depopulation.
Stateside, GS aka Vampire Squid now calls out their bingo number in the roll call–50%:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/half-america-will-get-sick-here-what-goldman-told-1500-clients-its-sunday-conference-call
The health of different nations citizens will be determined by their ability to fight this virus called corona.
Have no fear, yet are you here?
Those evil Commie Cubans are at it again. First they send doctors and useful anti-viral drugs to Italy.
Now they assist the UK with a Cruise ship full of people no other country would let in.
The Brits will go from ship to Cuba and be flown to Britain. Obviously, the Cubans are inhumane, unlike the US, Barbados and Bahamas who all refused entry to the passengers.
https://sputniknews.com/uk/202003161078582138-cuba-grants-refuge-to-brits-on-coronavirus-hit-ms-braemar-after-us-barbodos-bahamas-refuse-entry/
I’ve watched Cuba since 1959. They have always offered their doctors, nurses and pharmaceuticals in emergencies around the globe. A tiny nation with a huge human heart. God bless the Cuban people.
Judge people by their actions, not the ideology of their government.
https://youtu.be/4_7zkXv17QE
Living on this vast island continent, but having had the privilege of living in other, disparate cultures, I soak up whatever I can of those not yet experienced.
Hence my love for the beautiful, talented and humble persons whose lives are depicted in the Bueno Vista Social Club. I view my DVD copy often;
Thank You Larch for your always-welcome contributions in The Vineyard
Víctor Jara “A Cuba”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGXk0iPxvAI
As the Cuban say, Hasta la Victoria, Siempre!
Really good vid here, chock full of insights nowhere else, MAR16. He’s been one of a very shortlist of regulars i’ve listened to for years now.:
The Money GPS
FINANCIAL CRISIS PART 2 IS HERE! Fed Cuts Rates To 0% and Launches $700 Billion QE5!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96yGE9P5Sd8
keypoints:
things must be beyond bad if FED preempts its own mid-week FED FOMC by picking a Sunday evening, dropping the FF target range by the last .25%, to 0-.25%, AND announces a further $700B to buy (for now) only Treasuries & MBS.
But noted is they must yet get “special permission” from Congress to directly buy….stocks!
So that’s coming; this guy says it’ll be QE6, maybe spring that one next weekend.
5:20 mark powell mentions “need tools to address small business”, which runs on short-term CP notes. maybe not by coincidence, today another daily bus. vid i watch said there are reports out there (usa) today monday that the CP market has locked up! (last happened 2008 Sept. when lehman blew up).
main reason there’s a huge air pocket under the stock market: NO insider buying, because they don’t see prices of their stock going up for quite a while yet, if ever.
.
see 8:30 mark showing all the corporate stock buybacks past decade, all from cheap munny gushed out by the FED. It’s basically a CEO check-kiting scheme, where they load up their balance sheet with this cheap debt to buy up thus reduce the shares o/s, thus driving up the EPS & thus the perceived “value ” of the shares,where the insiders (CEO, VPs, directors) dump them, bought months earlier at “options to insiders” granted at prices ridiculously lower than market even at that time.
just for the record, monday aftn near market close 4 PM ET, DOW down near -10% from friday’s close:
https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=YM&p=h1
How Many People Have Coronavirus?
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/15/how-many-people-have-coronavirus/
Vimeo censors interview with Catherin Austin Fitts
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/sars/
Coronavirus archive
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/sars/
those who love me, love me for what I am,
those who hate me, hate me for what I am not
Why does Government Executive Media Group, Defense One sound just like North Korean Broadcast (State Propaganda). State propaganda in the USA was previously according to my knowledge targeted towards foreign countries (VOA, Radio Free Europe etc.). The emergence of cyberwarfare directed towards social media which goal was domination of the narrative ended with censorship, and expanded into control over the internet by government propaganda goals . That is why Atlantic Media Group and others has morphed into North Korean Broadcast which blast out extremely loudly the government information to the world.
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2020/03/breaking-weve-got-vaccine-says-pentagon-funded-company/163739/
Defense One on criticism and the views of alternative media regarding coronavirus.
Sorry, wrong link. The comment was based on reading this :
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2020/03/iran-and-russian-media-push-bioweapon-conspiracies-amid-covid19-outbreak/163669/?oref=d-mostread
“Thou shalt know Him when He comes
Not by any din of drums-
Nor the vantage of His airs-
Nor by anything He wears-
Neither by His crown,
nor His gown.
For His presence known shall be
by the Holy Harmony
That His coming makes in thee.”
An anonymous fifteenth century poet cited in Jung and the Bible – Wayne G. Rollins
“For Jung, the ‘individual human being’ was that ‘infinitesimal unit on whom a world depends, and in whom, if we read the meaning of the Christian message aright, even God seeks His goal.’
–
Wayne G Rollins
in your presence
I open like morning glory
opens to the sun
This is an amazing poem ….mind blowing,I cried while I recited to my wife .and as for str8arrow62 comment re toilet paper I laughed so much I nearly cried
LoL
Did you forget to turn the sarc button off by any chance TJT?.
By the way, I meant to say, I liked the poem you wrote a bit back. It’s good.
When it is all said and done, my tee shirt will say “I Survived The 2020 Toilet Paper Apocalypse”
What are the chances the money grubbing Governors are allowing misdiagnosis to cash in on the emergency federal funding? Since there isn’t a ‘reliable’ test for the covid and it shares essentially the same symptoms as influenza, most certainly not out of the realm of possibility cases are being misdiagnosed for financial gain. The cheapest most effective means to test is by taking a body temperature. If you become infected and begin shedding virus, your body temperature will be noticeably elevated.
Now we find our so called ‘leader’s’ showing a total commitment to ‘burn the village down to save it’ mentality by forcing the closure statewide of many gathering places which already operate on razor thin margins. Their employee’s have little recourse. I will always look upon ‘government’ officials with a great degree of skepticism, as they have tripped my BS alarm too, too many times. It’s ringing loudly with this psyop too. A lockdown exercise to see how we all react to having our life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness flushed down the toilet? Just a bit of Overton window pushing going on.
History of Bioterrorism
Scientists without morality and conscience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3lo88_ptQ
in other NON-Corona virus news, turns out the Mueller report about “Russian meddling” was pure BS.
https://www.rt.com/usa/483279-concord-russiagate-charges-dropped/
DOJ drops charges against ‘Russian trolls’ after they dared demand evidence in US court
The US is dropping the much-hyped indictment for ‘election meddling’ against a company supposedly behind the so-called Russian troll farm, closing the opening chapter of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russiagate investigation.
Further pursuing the case against Concord Management & Consulting LLC, “promotes neither the interests of justice nor the nation’s security,” the Department of Justice wrote to the federal judge overseeing the case on Monday, in a motion to drop the charges.
DOJ lawyers cited “recent events and a change in the balance of the government’s proof due to a classification determination,” saying only that they submitted further details in a classified addendum.
The DOJ rationalizes the motion to dismiss by arguing that Concord is “a Russian company with no presence in the United States and no exposure to meaningful punishment in the event of a conviction.” That has always been the case, however. What really changed since the indictment was filed is the complete implosion of Mueller’s case, helped in part by Concord fighting the case in court.
The motion inadvertently reveals that Mueller’s prosecutors never intended the case against Concord, two other entities and 13 individuals to actually go to trial, otherwise they would have anticipated what ended up happening: Concord’s lawyers demanding discovery documents from the DOJ, which the US authorities say risks “exposure of law enforcement’s tools and techniques.”
The Bee in Irish Folklore
http://www.ucd.ie/pages/99/articles/chaomh.pdf
Kadyrov recommends, besides not dying before our time, a little honey with lemon. And why not do this to restore ones health? After all the Egyptian pharmacopoeia is a honeyed toolkit, and it surely worked for them.
Are bees creatures of paradise? To what ecosystem are they endemic?
Corona Storm: The Movie
What I am picking up is that a movie script is what is unfolding. It is primarily an American movie, but other nationalities assist in the production….and Hollywood is NOT involved…except as villains on the run.
And it goes like this:
1. The Main and Very Questionable Hero in all of this script/production is a certain patriotic faction of the US Military. If you think such a thing might still exist after Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and Syria and you might want an advanced peek at the script, keep reading. If your life would lose all meaning were there any decent human beings still left in the US Military……skip the rest and just order something else. There are lots of other choices. But do they weave current events unfolding together as well as this one? THAT is the Question!
2. Start the script or preview with the virus. COVID 19 is a Psyop. Pamela is correct, even if we’ve lost her ( “OK…that’s IT. I’m outta here!”, didn’t I hear that several times? Pamela there’s a rule against such drama, if no one informed you yet.)….for good. It is a real virus, but causes little mortality. Like she says, it is less of a concern world-wide than influenza. Don’t shoot me, Colonel. I’m just conveying the script outline. I didn’t write it.
3. The VIRUS is not the Main Villain, but it can be problematic, in the background and the foreground of Our Story……..er…Their Story. In Their Unfolding Script anti-virals such as remdesivir will be useful in ICU treatment.
4. The Virus was engineered by the Deep State at the University of North Carolina, Fort Detrick and AAHL, Geelong. Don’t ask me where that is. But call the Colonel back. He will be largely vindicated as well. On a few points. It wasn’t created in China. It was created here, by the Deep State Villains.
5. However the virus has been attenuated, neutralized by The Good Fellas. No, not Pesci and DeNiro. We’re talkin’ White Hats …as in John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Eastwood etc. Two of the four HIV inserts have had base pair additions to ameliorate the ‘gain of function’.
6. China, Iran and Italy are all on side with Trump. They have largely manufactured the crisis by controlling the release of Psyop Disinformation. OK, all you way in the back, that haven’t thrown your Cokes at the screen yet, you can move forward now and take all the empty front and second row seats. LOL But WAIT! Those of you who were leaving: Remember, Italy was involved in Spygate and needed to make amends. There are empty seats way back in the back.
7. Most deaths will have had intercurrent influenza. Hence, conservative prevention/treatment is important. China released the virus at the designated time. The purpose was to create PANIC as cover for operations.
8. Quarantines will be staggered throughout major cities of the world. For instance, Sydney is likely to start this Wednesday, March 18, 2020. The level of action will be entirely inappropriate for the actual risk posed. Pamela will be pissed. The Colonel will be Lovin’ It.
9. The MSM is hoping the virus is very deadly and will succeed in getting rid of Trump. So are many of you. I’m not quite there yet. I’m teetering on the edge, however…almost ready to pop the Black Pill. The Virus will fail, so the script goes. But MSM and Deep State will ramp up the PANIC because they have no other choice, no other ammunition left. They are still hoping that The Virus is still in its more potent Deep State form.
10. During these Quarantine Periods, there will be arrests of low level Deep State operatives. These include MS-13 in the USA, Mafia in Italy and Canberra Raiders supporters in Australia.
11. These nasty individuals will be put in Quarantine by the World Wide White Hat Military…not just American special armed forces.
12. Locations in the US for such Quarantine are Seattle, WA, Fairfield, CA., San Diego, CA, Omaha, NE, Fort Carson CO, Dallas TX, San Antonio TX, Honolulu HI, Chicago IL, Newark, NJ, Atlanta, GA, Detroit, MI, New York, NY…and Washington, DC.
13. We will not hear very much about these arrests, although some have already subtly been announced. Silence and suspense building is the best theatrical option. to keep both Trumpers and Anti-Trumpers glued to their seats.
14. The world wide city Quarantines will continue from the staggered individual commencements until they all end on April 10th, Good Friday. Superimposed on this will be 10 Days of Darkness (No TV, no radio…..some say no internet…only Presidential Emergency Communication System.) The Ten days will begin April 1 and end on April 10.
15. Immediately before the Days of Darkness, Trump will tweet: “My Fellow Americans…..The Storm is upon us.” The morning of April 1. April Fool’s Day will lessen initial worries about darkness occurring.
16. When Darkness occurs, there will be Peak Covid-19 PANIC and martial Law, World Wide.
17. Quarantine, Medical Martial Law will have been in place in most major cities for some time before April 1, 2020. Many people will be self-isolating at home.
Most will have already prepped for food, etc.
There will be barter by some of toilet paper for food with those who have food but no TP.. (Sorry, I couldn’t resist. That’s not in the script but I think it should be. )
18 In Australia the Unemployed/Pensioners will be given $750 on March 31, 2020. Other countries will have contingencies, too. This means few will starve. Some emergency shops will be open to provide supplies if needed, but generally, most shops will be closed.
18. The Ten Days of Darkness will involve no social media. There will be electricity, but no TV or radio. No newspapers will print. The military of each country will close these down.
19. Trump will have the only available method of mass communication throughout the Ten Days of Darkness and that will be the Emergency Broadcast System. He will transmit from AF1. Each military in the Storm Plan will retransmit D.J.T. to their populations through their TV and other devices….which will be dark in ‘Murica.
None of this could happen without prior agreement of XI, Putin, and the presidents of Italy …and Iran, so Trump will not declare himself Emperor of the World. His initials just fit the script better than anyone else’s : 4-10-20 (Sorry, I couldn’t resist. Strike 2.)
20. Trump will either be aboard AF1 or be abroad during the Ten Days of Darkness, for optics. The excuse for the use of AF1 will be safety and/or infection risk. The EBS will be transmitted from AF1. There will effectively be a total news blackout except for 4-10-20….er I meant to say D.J.T..
21. The purpose of all this is to use the ten Days to Decimate the power structure of the Deep State World Wide while it is nearly impossible for them to move around or communicate with each other.
22. Justice Is Coming! No, that’s not my prediction. None of this except the wisecracks are mine. That’s the name of The Sequel to The Storm. (No, that’s my last wisecrack. Strike 4…….4 this evening, that is….)
Goodnight.
(Bummer! Someone took comment 93!)
Bro 93 … Your suggestion is excellent and much appreciated and I will keep you informed on any progress.
(have just emailed links and details to Dr Nassim Haramein and the research team)
Павел (Paul):
Message received.
Anxieties relieved
Much pleased
Markets plunging
Storm nerves jumping
Shoppers lunging
King in castle,
No Queen, no Hassle!
Rook, or Vassal?
Blooming Iris
Coded papyrus
Crown’s own virus.
Morning cup
Chin up, Buttercup!
Storm stirring up.
Just warming up.
Darkest hour
Do not stay sour!
Time to shower.
Good to get a laugh from this — this — whatever it is Bro93. Thank you – very much. I’ve posted a comment to Sean above which contains a link that might please the scriptwriter. From a German doctor and investigator. ADds to the James Bondian “villain who wants to control the world” aspect.
However, I do have queries – where is there the appropriate, nay essential, young, busty, sexy feminist female lead? Also, there must be at least one of all minority types. Just a note of caution.
Is it possible the end will include a scene of a cute family holding hands and walking into the sunset to the music of — Oh, I dont know but I think Enrico Morrecone should write it. :-)
Again, big :-)
Oh – no, “Pamela there’s a rule against such drama, if no one informed you yet” – NO!? What is it. :-)
Does the testing reveal a scam?
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.2020200642
Results
Of 1014 patients, 59% (601/1014) had positive RT-PCR results, and 88% (888/1014) had positive chest CT scans. The sensitivity of chest CT in suggesting COVID-19 was 97% (95%CI, 95-98%, 580/601 patients) based on positive RT-PCR results. In patients with negative RT-PCR results, 75% (308/413) had positive chest CT findings; of 308, 48% were considered as highly likely cases, with 33% as probable cases. By analysis of serial RT-PCR assays and CT scans, the mean interval time between the initial negative to positive RT-PCR results was 5.1 ± 1.5 days; the initial positive to subsequent negative RT-PCR result was 6.9 ± 2.3 days). 60% to 93% of cases had initial positive CT consistent with COVID-19 prior (or parallel) to the initial positive RT-PCR results. 42% (24/57) cases showed improvement in follow-up chest CT scans before the RT-PCR results turning negative.
Conclusion
Chest CT has a high sensitivity for diagnosis of COVID-19. Chest CT may be considered as a primary tool for the current COVID-19 detection in epidemic areas.
Summary
Chest CT had higher sensitivity for diagnosis of COVID-19 as compared with initial reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) from swab samples in the epidemic area of China.
Key Points
■ The positive rates of RT-PCR assay and chest CT imaging in our cohort were 59% (601/1014), and 88% (888/1014) for the diagnosis of suspected patients with COVID-19, respectively.
■ With RT-PCR as a reference, the sensitivity of chest CT imaging for COVID-19 was 97% (580/601). In patients with negative RT-PCR results but positive chest CT scans (n=308 patients), 48% (147/308) of patients were re-considered as highly likely cases, with 33% (103/308) as probable cases by a comprehensive evaluation.
■ With analysis of serial RT-PCR assays and CT scans, 60% to 93% of patients had initial positive chest CT consistent with COVID-19 before the initial positive RT-PCR results. 42% of patients showed improvement of follow-up chest CT scans before the RT-PCR results turning negative.
https://www.diagnosticimaging.com/ct/covid-19-pneumonia-traits-help-id-and-distinguish-virus
The majority of patients who develop COVID-19 pneumonia share several characteristics visible on CT scans that could help radiologists determine the extent and severity of disease, according to new research.
In a study published online Tuesday in the American Journal of Roentgenology, researchers from China revealed evidence from a multi-center study that indicates the shared findings seen on the lung scans of infected patients could help medical professionals rule out other infections that present in similar ways.
“Infections by other viruses, such as influenza A and influenza B, can cause the same clinical symptoms as COVID-19, which makes clinical diagnosis of COVID-19 pneumonia difficult, especially during flu season,” wrote the team, led by Wei Zhao and Zheng Zhong from The Second Xiangya Hospital and First Hospital of Changsha, respectively.
To determine if COVID-19 has some hallmark traits, the researchers reviewed CT scans for 101 patients from four institutions in China’s Hunan province – 87 non-emergency and 14 emergency cases. Roughly 70 percent were between the ages of 21 and 50. Most emergency patients were older, but the rate of underlying disease between the groups wasn’t significantly different.
Based on the image analyses, the investigators determined patients with COVID-19 pneumonia shared these findings on CT scans: ground-glass opacities (86.1 percent), mixed ground-glass opacities and consolidation (64.4 percent), and vascular enlargement in the lesions (71.3 percent). In addition, identified lesions were more likely to have peripheral distribution (87.1 percent) and bilateral involvement (82.2 percent), as well as be lower lung predominant (54.5 percent) and multi-focal (54.5 percent).
It’s important to note, the researchers said, that the rate of underlying disease between the two groups wasn’t significantly different, pointing to the importance of viral load when determining the severity and extent of COVID-19 pneumonia. They pointed to the statistical differences in architectural distortion, traction bronchiectasis, and pleural effusions that could reflect the viral load and severity of COVID-19 pneumonia between the two groups as a way to distinguish emergency cases.
Additionally, they said, the CT involvement score could play a role in determining the seriousness and extent of each case of COVID-19 pneumonia.
“Chest CT had higher sensitivity for diagnosis of COVID-19 as compared with initial reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) from swab samples in the epidemic area of China.
Problem with this is that there is no way of telling even with RT_PCR that you have all virus RNA. Dont forget most RNA in a human cell is human RNA, so determining it is CoV is very complicated without being able to follow Koch’s Postulates, i.e. re-infecting another person with it. And I’ve not heard of any lab doing that yet. As the good Pulmonary Disease and Influenza expert Head of Health Department, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg explained in his excellent video, we dont even know the demographics of sampling, nor the method of validation of samples. So it’s pretty much all a furphy, i.e. the masses of people are being “blinded by science”.
He says “what is missing at the moment is a rational way of looking at things. We should be asking questions like “how have you found out [i.e. proved] that the virus is dangerous; how was it [i.e. the stats from same time of year, same demographic before this virus was alleged]; Didn’t we in fact have the same thing last year ? Is it even something new? And all that is missing. The King is Naked [the story of the boy who said “The King is Naked” when all his panderers were assuring him he was wearing the latest and best outfit].
The thing is, we have a world that is increasingly becoming specialised and highly technical. It’s a world in which much happens which is only properly understand by a very few. The rest are living in a world they have no way of grasping – should the equivalent of the microbial scare be one on computer graphics — I’d be as lost. I have no idea how computers “go”. I push buttons, and hope the right thing happens. If it doesn’t I scream for my specialist helper and assume he is telling me the truth.
It’s the same with this I guess. Hardly anyone outside of microbial and molecular science understands the first thing about this, and it’s not their fault, but we have self seeking, very ignorant politicians being advised by equally self seeking scientists, and the mass of uninformed people writing off the scientists trying to inform, to call a halt to a runaway express train of panic and irrationality, to stop the damage which that alone is going to do, being written off and sneeringly dismissed; i guess they would call Dr. Wodarg “ an Einstein with his head in a bucket refusing to see and having cognitive dissonance”</i? !!
The mind boggles. What happens if you are hanging onto a runaway train and struggling to hold it back, but it's too heavy and your arms are being torn? You let go, shrug, and mutter "Oh the hell with it. I dont think I care anymore"
Appreciate your detailed reply Pamela.
Have to say i’ve currently turned 180 from keeping hands in pockets to thinking 911 was nothing on this.
Wow. I hadn’t thought of that, having been stuck in the track of microbial infections and comparing the totally insane hysteria now to the utter lack during previous recent epidemics that were clearly being caused by a recognisable agent, e.g. Influenza type A sub: H1N1.
I didn’t think about 9/11 – and you are so right. Some unknown group smash into two highly recognisable landmarks, kill 3000 people, many many signs that all is not at all what was claimed, but ME wars are launched, Patriot Act deprives Americans of liberty — yet no world wide hysteria. No planes grounded – ordered to avoid the Tower of London and Eiffel Tower. Just carrying on as usual.
Nice point
RIP Rachael Corrie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4
What the Palestinians have to endure!
A true martyr!
Brother Blue
What has happened to the guy from PressTV who used to report from France about the Yellow Vests? Hasn’t been around for a while.
Achtung, Achtung!
Ten minutes Blitzkrieg against Corona panic – English subtitles:
Stunning insights into the Corona-panic by Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI
https://www.wodarg.com/
Info in German and English
Current social lock-down & awesome gubbermint scenario designed ten years ago in Rockefeller Foundation study:
LOCK STEP: This is No Futuristic Scenario – 10.03.2020 F. William Engdahl
https://journal-neo.org/2020/03/10/lock-step-this-is-no-futuristic-scenario/
Thanks for the good information, yes there are many things to be taken in consideration.
For what it’s worth. One friend in St. Petersburg is not so worried. His take is that older Russians have been through a lot, and figure they will find a way through this. Another friend is about 40 years old, she’s very worried. Meanwhile straight of the Russian govt website:
http://government.ru/en/news/39161/
The agenda includes efforts to control the incidence of new coronavirus infection and to provide stable economic performance.
Mikhail Mishustin’s opening remarks:
Meeting with deputy prime-ministers
Meeting with deputy prime-ministers
I have signed a directive to form a Coordination Council to control the incidence of coronavirus infection and to appoint the members. I will head the council myself. You know that the President is paying special attention to this problem. We have established a task group in the State Council to control the incidence of coronavirus infection. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin will be the head of the group. He will also be my first deputy in the Coordination Council. Tatiana Golikova will be working in the medical and social sectors, she will also be my deputy. Andrei Belousov, in his position as deputy council chair, will be coordinating and submitting proposals on reducing the influence of the pandemic on the economy and what instruments can support small and medium business. Dmitry Chernyshenko will have a similar role, he will be responsible for monitoring key indicators and also for the communication lines that are important to guaranteeing control of this disease in Russia.
We will soon build a system of continuous notification for people on the developments in this area, including the social media. We will also start a unified telephone hotline. We will be posting up-to-date information all over the country, all regions, regarding how many people have fallen ill and how many have recovered. We will provide full online monitoring of the most important economic and social parameters.
Coronavirus is a variety of respiratory infection that has been insufficiently researched so far. This virus was brought into Russia by people who returned from countries where it had spread. And the growing number of cases in Russia, which we have observed recently, is the result of contact between their family members or between them and others.
In many countries the situation is developing unfavourably. There are significant risks to people’s lives and health and to normal business operations.
More to be posted soon…
Mikhail Mishustin
Quick tip from a shelving stocker. If you are low on supplies do not go first thing in the morning to beat the rush, it’s there already. The shelving stocker says show up an hour or two before closing, that’s when staff stock the shelves for the following day.
Let’s get real and refute and get rid of some of the persistent nonsense from the ‘einsteins’ in our midst.
First, is there a wide government fear op. operating – Yes and if we are not wide awake, we will see the problem-reaction-solution effect kick in.
Antidote, to take proper responsibility for ourselves. If you are in self-seclusion, they cannot very well put you in a fema style camp.
Is there a highly sophisticated economic op. operating – Yes, I know that for fact but, nobody has to accept my word for it. When I feel comfortable with the information I will share it but at the moment, I don’t yet.
Will we see a global full on economic collapse? Your guess is as good as mine but some countries will collapse and certain governments will collapse.
Then, we were told it is only the older population that is at severe risk and those with other underlying conditions.
Turns out the infected in France and Italy are over 50% younger than 60 and 50 years old.
Antidote – we have to take our health into our own hands and despite all the warnings that the governments want ‘to take away our guns’, and ‘close our interstates’ and such type messaging. We would be well placed to be aware of, but mostly ignore all government messaging and educate ourselves in a hurry.
And of course, young people get better quickly. What is missing there, is that irresponsible young people if they contract this virus, shed the damn thing and become a walking Typhoid Mary for upwards of 25 to 27 days. In addition, if they do get seriously ill, they come out of there almost certainly in a state of suppressed immunity and mostly with some kind of organ damage.
Antidote – manage the young people around you. If they do not do what is necessary stay away from them. Of course kids are contracting this virus now. Its ‘just the oldies’ eh? The oldies are just a more fragile population.
Oh, and then we had the story of the warmer weather will stop this virus – that also turned out to be nonsense. There are enough tropical and hot countries now with infection rates following the usual pattern, one or two .. and then exponentially rising just like the other countries, so kick this idea right out the door.
If you are really ill, go to a hospital? This is a sword with two cutting edges and this is of course truly one’s own decision. Hospitals are overworked, care givers, nurses and doctors are getting infected by bunches, and the environment is probably questionable. Bear in mind the triage system – if you are in a high risk category, they will probably only give you minimum palliative care, hoping to rescue the younger population with a better chance at survival. I have no recommendation or antidote here excepting to strengthen the immune system and fully self-isolate so that you don’t get infected.
Self-isolation works. I draw your attention to this video, that with cool graphics show you the effects of isolation. It is common knowledge US is going to go into full-on quarantine and lock-down. It is not Trump decimating the Deep State. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=efaDuE-XEi4&feature=emb_logo
Even if you feel hopeless, do not lose hope. Many of us here are available for chatting. There are many of us that understand that our role now is to support others because we’re done safeguarding ourselves to the best of our abilities. But do quarantine yourself and if you do not want to take pharmaceuticals – consider the immune strengthening advice that we worked on in the health forum. I must give you a little warning though .. non-pharmaceuticals are also medicine – it is also a full-on protocol that needs to be used properly. The three basics here is Liposomal Vit C, Vit D (in the sun), and Chaga Tea for prevention. We are now getting enough anecdotal evidence of this actually doing some good, to pay attention to it. Please read everything and don’t pick and choose. It is a protocol, and not a a-la-carte restaurant. It cannot harm you and it may help you. We have clear information that Vit C in various forms is now part of the management of virus cases in China.
And then, with no immunity in the population, I’ve said that China is now preparing for the 2nd phase infection. Others tell me that China is pulling out of it. Well, really?
@HuXijin_GT
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20h
Preventing a 2nd outbreak caused by imported infection cases is a new challenge for China. But I believe it won’t be more difficult than controlling severe epidemic in China more than a month ago. On one hand, Chinese society is more vigilant, on the other hand, it has confidence.
We probably know that this guy is the main mouthpiece and also the Editor-in-chief of Chinese and English editions of the Global Times – so this is formalized .. directly from the Chinese goverment’s mouth. This is what they are expecting and hardening themselves for, in addition helping out other countries. (Viva Little Cuba!)
With this kind of non-immunity, the future is of course only one of containing and instead of questioning Chinese social habits, it would be much better to become completely humble and learn from them as much as possible.
Numbers generally – our poster who did some numbers on the back of the cigarette packet started so at the right place .. at the previous real plague in our world. This is my own thing, but I discount the others that came by .. ebola, swine flu, bird flu and so on.
So, cigarette packet man :-) do you know if your numbers include the tropical countries? I think you are on to something for sure in thinking clearly about numbers.
Numbers are generally just putrid and bad and excepting guidelines to hang our hats on for a level of comfort, are generally meaningless. They can only measure what is there to measure. We know that testing whole populations is almost not possible – so, we may be catching only a few now, with the current methods of testing. I will say that despite learning from China, I do not think they are reporting numbers honestly. This would be for their own purposes and political wiggle room. They almost certainly do not want to publish the real death rate, especially among their military.
So, new cases cannot be accepted as ‘all cases’ within a country. It is only those that they’ve found. Nevertheless Iran at +1,178 and Spain at +1,338 overnight is chilling.
Please do not let your own brilliance blind yourself and others from re-learning daily. Because there is a fear op, and economic op running, does not mean we’re not dealing with a real virus.
There may be good it this as well. Perhaps this does act as a ‘reset’ of some kind. The cost of it though, in lives, is just a little too overwhelming for me today. We will probably go and post up the Russian government’s actions on the blog a little later, when the transcript is fully available. Its good as they are managing the hysteria.
NATO’s troops are now recalled from the big European Operation. Thank the heavens for these types of mercies!
amarynth
You said….”Please do not let your own brilliance blind yourself and others from re-learning daily. Because there is a fear op, and economic op running, does not mean we’re not dealing with a real virus.”…well said!
Me, well I’m sick to death of arguing the toss with the “variant of the common, it will go away” head in the sand brigade. I can’t deal with this farcical level of cognitive dissonance. I do however continue to admire your extreme patience.
So I thought instead of continually bashing my head against the proverbial brick wall I would do some very basic maths on different countries reported mortality rates for QV-19 as a ratio of reported cases. These are the mortality rates of the seven worst countries in terms of total reported cases to date…data taken from…
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I left out China and Iran as I don’t believe their reporting is accurate enough to make meaningful comparisons and then ranked them in descending order with Italy coming in as the highest MR and Germany the lowest.
Italy 0.079
Spain 0.044
France 0.02263
USA 0.0169
South Korea 0.00973
Switzerland 0.0098
Germany 0.00279
If you relate the two best-performing countries in this list, South Korea has only 12.3% of Italy’s MR in spite of the fact that it has been heavily infected early on.
Germany, as I have pointed out before on this site, is a complete outlier in this list as its MR is only 3.53% of Italy’s. In other words, so far Germany has had less than 4 deaths for every 100 in Italy.
This needs to be investigated by experts as to why this anomaly exists as the answer could be absolutely critical in saving many lives in the future. It could be particularly revealing given the similarities between Germany and Italy in demographics and with both countries having highly ranked health systems.
Cheers
Col
We gotto be patient. The future events will show up clearly what is valid, and what is not – yes, there will be a cost. Remember a comment from Teranam13 early on – more towards the esoteric picture – something like there is a strong ‘whisper’ in the esoteric realms that say die, die die. Well, some of us are not tuned in to that radio vibe and are not receiving that message. I agree with Teranam’s early vision esoterically.
We have to trust people to come to their own decisions and this is very very hard to do. I went through some US info this morning and the hate on China is fully in the open. I don’t think – judging from the language in the public US sphere – that it is outside of the realm of possibilities to have some kind of sick war played by sick armies. There are even groups that are trying to start memes like : “Chinese Communist Party has POISONED all of humanity with bioweapon covid19. CCP or humanity? f@ck Xi & CCP.” And of course again, Trump tweeting about “China Virus”.
So, I’m trying to get a handle on the political and mainly the economic picture because there is stuff happening behind the scenes. I am also trying to watch closely what happens in the Chinese community – did they in fact eradicate this virus in their community by sometimes brutal methods of quarantine? Again Chris Martenson has a good overview with his current research and he is fact based as much as what one could be. What he deals with generally is much the same as what I posted in this post. But he has some questions toward the middle and end on the financials and the blockhead decisions being taken there. At the end there he makes a prescient statement – we have to understand the objectives of the different players and we have to understand that their interests may not align with our own.
Peace!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmhsNdW24BM&feature=emb_logo
Germany?
This may form part of your answer to your research. “Analysis tree of German #COVID19 cases – they are from 4 different virus branches – this means there are multiple different points of introduction of cases which seeded German epidemic. ”
https://nextstrain.org/ncov?f_country=Germany
Just one further comment Col … the story of ‘it is just the flu’ is in any event over.
Europe surges past Asia with Covid-19 death toll of 3,421
https://www.rt.com/news/483407-coronavirus-deaths-europe-asia/
And besides that, we have now sufficient lung conditions scans and pics of various nature, that shows lung damage which is nothing like ‘just the flu’.
And here is a reporter from Dallas … who was after the real numbers for a while now:
@AllisonFox4News
Just received confirmation on this from Dallas @JudgeClayJ
chief of staff — patients who have coronavirus and are in their 20s and 30s being treated now at Dallas hospitals are in critical condition and have no underlying conditions.
For a long time, each time ‘the goverment’ said anything, we ‘alternatives’ of course questioned .. did not believe .. laughed at panic and all of that. Perhaps now we will start recognizing that this one is not a drill. Who know about all those crazy toilet paper buyers – they will have some after we’ve long run out (grins). Who will have the last laugh here?
See, that’s a good question. Its entirely possible that if the gvt was prosecuting the only people who shall survive this bug, payback will be a bitch, and if so, i’ll be first in line to accuse them of such crimes against humanity along with no sympathy for the devil here either.
Absolutely amarynth, as you say…”the story of ‘it is just the flu’ is in any event over.”
That story should be over…even the Moronic Trump has wised up to that one.
Sadly an awful lot of damage has been done because this mantra was parroted globally. It gave ample opportunity for this “Honey Badger” virus…as CM refers to it…to establish itself with such a global footprint that we now have an out of control emergency situation on our hands.
It is so disappointing to see self-appointed experts, some in an extremely supercilious manner, endlessly parroting this nonsense. What they have done is highly dangerous…they have directly added to the death toll. In Trump’s case, his cavalier attitude and denial will result in thousands of extra avoidable deaths.
The US is now, because of this same attitude, a ticking time bomb. It will track the exact same exponential growth curve of cases and deaths that other countries who were not pro-active enough followed. In fact, I predict it will be worse because of their dysfunctional health system and the multitude of other characteristics of their culture.
These are not functions of the Capitalist system gone mad because this no longer is a Capitalist model by any stretch of the imagination. It is an obscene out of control dystopic concoction of reverse socialism and plutocracy. As this tragedy unfolds it will reveal just how broken this model really is.
This virus is only the black swan catalyst… it is not the cause. It will be simply the final straw for this inevitable wreck. The US could well be the biggest loser in this fiasco for more reasons than I could poke the proverbial stick at. The most ironic part of the whole sordid episode will be the culprit being revealed right at the time that the boomerang effect arrives with such a vengeance.
When it comes to the ‘fix’ no amount of monetary or fiscal remedies will suffice. It is totally absurd that the monetary side will be more huge dollops of MMP [read QE] which is the root cause of the completely unsustainable financial model in the first place.
In all of this fiasco, the cui bono [who benefits] aspect is so completely obvious that you really don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to work this one out.
My Latin is not great so I don’t know how to modify it to what it should read…namely…
“Who on earth is dumb enough to think they could benefit from this heinous act”.
Best regards and stay safe
Col
Ah yes, Einstein
We are shaped by our thoughts. We become everything we think {said Buddha} thus,{said Einstein} We cannot solve a problem using the same thinking which caused it.
“The ideals which have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth”
ALBERT EINSTEIN
Before you speak, let your truth pass through 3 gates:
Is it true
Is it necessary
Is it kind
Rumi
Mods, …..Knight or Vassal? would be a better line…but I was short on time.
Meanwhile on CUBA and the CIA and Psy-war and Bio-war:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-wuhan-virus-cia-biological-warfare-cuba/5706466?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com&utm_campaign=dbr
Downward market spiral
Shopping becoming feral
Could Truth Go Viral?
http://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=1361
India’s Self-Destruction
The Narendra Modi’s BJP-RSS nexus has pushed the whole of India into the über-nationalistic quasi Hindutva-fascistic fire.
The contentious citizenship bill is bringing to the country nothing but shame and ignominy.
The mob attacks on peaceful protesters by RSS hoodlums in New Delhi took the lives of
at least 50 people !!!!!!!! While Trump was praising Modi !!!
It was a premeditated attack ignited by local BJP leaders at the behest of the establishment. The role of the Delhi police during the whole episode was really despicable. Instead of protecting the innocent, they facilitated the attackers. Many videos are being circulated on social and mainstream media where one can easily see the cops breaking CCTV cameras to save the perpetrators.
A couple of heads up from front line Sis. She studied the SARS and MERS epidemiology, says the majority of transmissions and the most infected places were public or communial wash rooms. Since Covid is in that family she feels that’s how it spreads so quick……..ala wash hands a lot. She also said Ex PM Cretien’s brother is in the medical field and went to China………..one thing that may help and they have anidotal evidence, is to soak any mask you plan on wearing in a salt water solution then dry them before wearing………….hmm I’m thinking perhaps, the electrolicis of the salt particals interferes with the virus. Seems practical, can’t hurt.
The Market-Crashin’ Blues
I got a real live Communist in my own office
In an online course in tradin’ future options
I got the market jitters feelin’ mighty noxious,
She can’t capitalize? Whipsawed emotions!
Workin’ on getting cycles under control
Feelin’ the Whip, steelin’ for the Saw,
Family of four goin’ on the Socialist dole?
Crashin’ feelin’ DOWN–in my Capitalist craw!
I know it’s rough…it’s a Work in Progress
Somewhere here’s a metaphor for Life
Politics, I fess, this mess, God bless!
Will kill me yet! I’m countin’ on ya, wife!
The associations are richly aggregating, but can they be mastered….. in Time???
As below, each’s Bottom Line – So Above….the Universe…Celestial Market…So Sublime Cosmology!
Ed Sekota—- The Trading Tribe with The Whipsaw Song….for y’all of any range of ideology:
https://youtu.be/LiE1VgWdcQM
The Whipsaw Song
Volatility…Ed on Banjo:
You get a whip and I get a saw, Honey
You get a whip and I get a saw, Babe
You get a whip and I get a saw
One good trend pays for them all!
Honey, Trader, Ba-by mine.
Banjo (Ride Your Winners):
What do we do when we catch a trend, Honey?
What do we do when we catch a trend, Babe?
What do we do when we catch a trend?.
We ride that trend right to the end!
Honey Trader, Baby, Mine!
Mandolin (Cut Your Losses):
What do we do when we show a loss, honey?
What do we do when we show a loss, Babe?
What do we do when we show a loss?
We give that daggone loss a toss!
Honey Baby, Trader, Mine!
Fiddle (Manage Your Risk):
How do we know when our risk is right, Honey?
How do we know when our risk is right, Babe?.
How do we know when our risk is right?
We make a lot of money and we sleep at night,
Honey Baby, Trader Mine.
Guitar (Use Stops):
What do we do when the price breaks through, Honey?
What do we do when our price breaks through, Babe?
What do we do when our price breaks through?
Our stops are in so there’s nothing to do!
Honey Baby, Trader Mine!
Bass (Stick to the System):
What do we do when a draw down comes, Honey?
What do we do when it gets real big, Babe?
What do we do when it’s even bigger …
We stick to the plan and pull the trigger!
Honey Baby, Trader Mine!
Banjo (File the News):
What do we do with a hot news flash, honey?
What do we do with a hot news flash, Babe?
What do we do with a hot news flash?
We stash that flash right in the trash!
Honey, Baby, Trader Mine!
(for international geopolitical antiviral anti-empire purposes…just replace the word “hot” above with FAKE….)
I’m outta here….goin’ to Trader Joe’s
One Good Trend….Pays for it ALL.
In ANY ism!
You just need to get the right SYSTEM down, as Ed the Serbian makes clear, (“It’s a System….and WE….not the Capitalist Fat Cats…….have to own it!”)
Honey Trader, Baby Mine.
And now a light hearted(not) alternative explanation of whats happening. Just look at the symbolism and listen to the words !!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3WkiL0d_U
For useful information and guidelines to protect yourself and loved ones, friends and associates:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/index.html
I have never been particularily negative to pres. Trump, I was initially very negative to the prospect of Hillary Clinton and the Democrat’s party winning the election and Donald Trump did not alienate me in any way during the election process. Then Pres. Trump turned into a zionist servant of which I have disliked enourmously.
Now, I think that pres. Trump has handled the Coron crisis really well from early on, closing unrestricted travel from several countries. There was not really anything the president could do to stop the virus from entering the USA, the president had to act on factual development. There is just now another press conference from the White House, the information has been forthcoming almost on a daily basis.
On another note, I am really sick and tired of Fox and other media 24 hours coverage of Corona Virus, it is a unnecessary overload, and means that they are exploiting the virus crisis for business purposes and even more importantly, for crisis maximization. So turn off.
Then it is really boring not having any real news channel that I can rely on. RT has become irrelevant propaganda a mix of zionist and dems , BBC is ridiculous fake news, Al Jazeera an arabic equivalent of US fake news and BBC that they run from Qatar, Euronews is total propaganda, France24 liekwise and so on. There is a lot of chose from on modern television services of course they are all a propaganda disaster in different ways news, actualities and analysis are all manipulated for political purposes whether politics or editorial all over at this time in history.
We must also remember that the economy is based on trading , and that this is a natural process. What is unnatural is the attempt to end what makes our civilisation great, industrialisation and the emergence of the
working class slowly making their way into wealth of which is available to anyone at this time. Shutting down the economy is walking backwards into the future. Our modern economy is based on trading one thing for another, work is a change for wealth, and wealth is based on value, value is based on tradeable assets which is expressed as money as the most useable commodity. Now pushing for the collapse of the money , the petro dollar and so on, is extremely shortsighted, the end of the oilproduction is likewise very shortsighted and dangerous. Things may happen slowly if naturally occuring, and activism is extremely dangerous and counterproductive.
China has expelled all “reporters” from the NYT, WAPO and the WSJ:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bloody-tuesday-unprecedented-move-china-expels-all-foreign-journalists-working-nyt-wsj
All I can say is, “it’s about time.”
The NYT, WAPO and the WSJ are propaganda outlets. Why China tolerated their presence this long is beyond me.
Now, we have see if we can get them expelled from America as well.
All I can say is, “it’s about time.”
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Pamela on March 17, 2020 · at 9:43 am EST/EDT
4. Now, what we can’t determine is, did China do this out of ignorance, a cascade of Unintended Consequences and errors? Or – knowing that nothing spreads like wildfire faster than panic, and wanting to hit back at the Empire for it’s launching of warfare by various means on it, the Chinese politicians Deliberately instigated a panic situation, then sat back and watched the wildfire go. [since I know nothing of tactics and strategy Saker might have something to say about this].
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Whhat if it was, in reality, the first part of Pamela’s paragraph?
I was not posting about the virus, but rather about letting disinformation platforms operating in China in the first place. The Chinese have allowed this to go on for too long. I am glad that they finally put an end to it.
American media simply is not journalism and it is time to stop the pretense that it is journalism.
Only problem there is once you tell a lie often enough, the people actually believe it, this is what our media has become. It has worked well for them, and they have no incentive to change behaviors at this late hour.
Alabama,
I agree that the media will not change.
But I disagree that people believe them anymore.
For example. places throughout the nation have sold out of Vitamin C.
Vitamin C isn’t being pushed by the Main Stream Media. It isn’t even being attacked. So why are people buying it. It is because they are getting their information from someplace else.
That is just one example among many.
Here is another.
Zerohedge.
Zerohedge is the bane of the Main Stream Media. It has been deplatformed. But its daily hits are through the roof..
People are getting their information from some place else.
I think vitiman c is mostly a myth, b12 helps the oxygen get to the muscles giving a temporary boost, that’s my go too one or twice a year. Most of these folks feel better simply if they believe in what they are told, and badly if they admit to themselves they were lied too.
Many feel better after battling at the hedge, the place was filled with zoo animals and thieves with keys as far as I was concerned, not worth the time of my day.
And its too early to predict anything concrete of course, but the health care system is about to be overwhelmed and once its all said and done with, most of these people affected are not going to wake up each morning any better off than they did prior to the event.
There is a lot of clinical evidence that Vit C does well crazy wonderful things – they do it intravenously nowadays and also by injection. Here is a start ..
https://www.globalresearch.ca/three-intravenous-vitamin-c-research-studies-approved-treating-covid-19/5705405
Well, I’ll continue my liposomal Vit C :-)
But did they do a placebo testing along side the vit c one?
Ive tried most everything at one point in time, only to find once I gained full control of my health, I didnt need anything beyond 3 square meals a day of my own making.
the placebo would be those not getting the IVC, and went ahead and died.
This is not a forgone conclusion.
Ever hear of Linus Pauling?
sad…………..
Yes, but that is not my point. My point is that if people got their information from the corporate media there would not have been a run on vitamin c, since it is not mentioned there – either pro or con.
They are losing their grip on the masses.
Exactly Mike;
A surprising # of people are informing themselves about natural/herbal non-pharma tactics, this is reflected in the empty shelves: lemons, raw honey, vit.C, peppers, oil of oregano, elderberry. It is becoming so obvious the collusion of media and the corpro-nazis who own it, this crisis may be a catalyst for change. We have to think also of generational demographics. Altho I despair watching a lot of millennials stumbling along staring at their poisonous phones, I also sense a sea change in perceptions, of distrust and challenge. Not that that might have much muscle beyond complaining. Until they put on some sturdy shoes and hit the streets like we did in the sixties it doesn’t mean anything.
pariah,
Some millennials (at least those in my family) don’t buy into the mainstream narrative. And from what I have heard, there are a lot of them who don’t buy into the emptiness of a Facebook way of life.
It gives me a sense of, maybe not full optimism but at least, encouragement.
I think its just the need for people to have enough of what they rely on to survive, whatever that might be.
I noticed all the eggs gone, most of the flour, naturally all the tp and a lot of paper towels missing, they were restocking pepsi like mad, who knows how long that will last, all the chicken was gone except for the thighs.
You’ll be fine as long as you can do most everything yourself, the more one has to rely on others to do the things one cant do, the more fragile life becomes for people.
ZH is owned by ABC Media Ltd UK, a SERCO Holding Company
Serco was called RCA-UK back in 1920’s, aka owned by Prescott Bush Family bankers to Hitler and main supplier of electronics to Germany, Today Serco not only runs the worlds private prisons, but also most ATC (Air Traffic Control & Satellites ) on earth. SERCO also got the obama-care contract for their infamous website that cost $1B USD ( Why is a UK company developing USA medical database? )
Serco is 100% Zionism ran out of City of London.
Now pray tell, I need to know how ZH is not part and parcel of MSM? They just run everybody in circles back to the same place.
Yes, people are getting their information same place, but the Hasbara Talking Points, are all written by the same team in Tel Aviv.
Seldes,
I don’t take everything on Zerohedge as gospel.
But they have a huge redeeming feature. They offer different points of view.
For instance, you’ll see articles from the World Socialist Website as well as from the Mises Institute.
That is a huge range of opinion.
This is something you would never see on the MSM.
A couple of articles with brief excerpts to illustrate two points:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/maximum-pressure-march-us-hybrid-war-venezuela-heats-up/5706559
excerpt:
The effects of the sanctions are most noticeable in Venezuela’s health sector, which has been decimated over the past five years. These measures have impeded banks from carrying out financial transactions for the purchase of medical supplies. In addition, they have caused a 90% decrease in Venezuela’s foreign income earnings, depriving the health sector of much needed investment. Were it not for the solidarity of China and Cuba, which sent testing kits and medicine, Venezuela would be woefully ill-equipped to handle the coronavirus. The sanctions are worsening an already dangerous situation, forcing Venezuela to spend three times as much for testing kits as non-sanctioned countries.
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my comment:
-the us govt depts, i.e zionist dominated state dept and sanctions dept in dept of treasury are composed of depraved ghouls intent upon making vulnerable population segments of target countries suffer at risk of death because of sanctions on medical supplies;
Contrasting article:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/cuban-drug-could-save-thousands-lives-coronavirus-pandemic/5706643
excerpt:
Cuban medicine could treat thousands of coronavirus patients as production of a “flagship” drug known to combat the disease is set to increase significantly, pharmaceutical bosses said at a press conference on Friday.
President of the BioCubaFarma group Eduardo Martinez explained that the socialist island has developed 22 drugs that are set to be used to contain the outbreak.
So far it is known that one of the drugs manufactured by Cuba, Interferon B, has managed to effectively cure more than 1,500 patients from the coronavirus and is one of 30 drugs chosen by the Chinese National Health Commission to combat respiratory disease.
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my comment:
-cuba is sending doctors et al to italy, seriously striving to develop and/or distribute vaccines and medicines elsewhere; (what a contrast with the ghouls in state dept).
Obviously, it is too soon to tell if these efforts will be effective but importantly the effort is present.
The israeli quisling trump regime’s actions around the virus remind me of similar moves undertaken by the ray gun regime that were obviously designed to make sure AIDS got a sufficient start.
Biowarfare is not something new to these freaks.
Reagan is widely idolized in America.
But the collapse which is happening in America right now can be directly traced to him.
Deregulate? Scam artists took over the country at every level
Militarize? The country is not only hated throughout the world, but is virtually bankrupt.
Glorify greed? Financial predators destroyed the middle class.
If you name something that is collapsing in America, the roots of it can almost always be traced back to Reagan.
That was fast, fastest transition ever: from bubble economy to bubble home economy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/the-family-lockdown-guide-how-to-emotionally-prepare-for-coronavirus-quarantine?utm_source=pocket-newtab
These 14-day isolation periods involve individuals or families staying within their homes, and not having physical contact with those outside. With the prospect of school and daycare closures, as well as workplaces shutting down or moving to remote working, many more families around the world face the prospect of precisely the kind of long days the Diener family is experiencing.
But what can families expect and how can they survive not only the virus, but each other?
From Gilad Atzmon’s website: The Corona Future
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/544680b5e4b0149c3cfddd3b/1582875322538-99LN1JWF7APZSY10WW8A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kH23KVWagbNOYpajbj_MQLNZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZamWLI2zvYWH8K3-s_4yszcp2ryTI0HqTOaaUohrI8PIJtg7yny0RBSV5PxpX1XPrwAROGqRUCBAuccPtaePpQsKMshLAGzx4R3EDFOm1kBS/corona+future.jpg?format=750w
We just spent a pitiful day of survival prep, I give it a c at best, running around trying to find things people already bought and then trying to time the next truck so the missing items can be had. Its hard to believe the human race could get any worse at living life.
A friend at Costco today was told that three tractor trailers full of TP (just TP, nothing else) was cleaned out in one hour, he said canned goods, store had none……….what a freak show. Since Iraq War two, which precipitated the big move to the counrty for us, I live by the moto “I ain’t no prepper, but I am prepared” ‘sept I gotta stock up on some ammo, cause you just never know.
btw Alabama, gut feeling, this is just getting started………..likely gets worse for awhile from here on out.
“likely gets worse for awhile from here on out.”
At this point, that sounds very like Blair on the Late late show:
https://www.rte.ie/archives/2015/0831/724728-tony-blair-on-weapons-of-mass-destruction/
Blair responds by describing it as a decision of life and death that was not taken lightly.
“The evidence was also that he had them, that he was developing them… With this man and the hundreds of thousands of people who died under him, it wasn’t worth leaving that risk in place.”
The argument goes around in circles.
I don’t watch late shows, I don’t watch any shows save for maybe the wilderness/reality survival shows, for effect only. In fact, you even get the odd tip on how to survive without. As for Blair, wouldn’t give him the time of day, and if, just an if, I had a gun…………….I’d tip the Rarey.
People dont understand they wont need a years worth of tp when they cant afford 3 months worth of food.
The elderly health care system has gone martial, no one in, no one out, resturants closed, they deliver the meals.
This could be the point in time the bible referred to as being the time you did not want to be an elderly person.
Being immune has its advantages, but I think you are right, the carnage has just begun. People are saying that once you get this bug, it feels like ice picks stabbing your muscles.
If the carnage is true (based on spanish flue) – more than 90% of humanity is unaffected.
Devastating for individuals but only strengthens the species (as is usual).
You dont really know that, those stats were unreliable, if 100 million were dead or part of the walking dead in areas affected, the percentage is much higher.
And the species never gets strengthened, body mechanics still limits the painless to the very very few, the rest look into the mirror and deceive themselves and anyone willing to listen.
People idle, with nothing to do,
talking online, too we don’t know who,
People affected, far and wide.
They worked on planes and trains,
cars and bars, ships and for tips.
Peoples lay still, they go no where,
They used to be here, they used to be there,
as the minutes turn to hours, the hours to days,
they say it could be weeks, but the peoples say no f in ways.
“There is no reason
Good
Can’t triumph
Over evil
If only angels
Will
Get organised
Along the
Lines
Of the mafia”
Kurt Vonnegut in A Man Without a Country
From the same book:
“While we were being bombed in Dresden, sitting in a cellar with our arms over our heads in case the ceiling fell, one soldier said as though he were a duchess in a mansion on a cold and rainy night, ‘I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?’
Nobody laughed, but we were still all glad he said it. At least we were still alive. He proved it.”
Gratitude takes us a very long way Alabama.
My precious son who used to be a heroin addict put me onto Kurt Vonnegut in order for me to learn a thing or two.
Vonnegut is one of the few.
:-)
Please stay present to us vot tak
I have no doubt that a mechanism exists to ensure that remains so, but for angels to overwhelm the omnipresent wicked that rules the masses, gambles have to taken, and losses have to absorbed as the odds of winning are slight and the costs to overwhelm are great. Keep up the good fight babuska and lets see where the chips fall.
Thank You Alabama and the same to You
Fighting the Good Fight is worth everything
Keeping our eye on the Victory
Survived USSR: Russians NOT panic-stricken over Covid-19 adversity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0nDSzzTvo0
Deep state organisations internet propaganda media and MSM attacking pres. Trump taking the side of China, whose communist gov is pushing war retoric against the USA. ( Tucker Carlson Fox News ). The elite seem to be behind the coronavirus outbreak, it is exactly within their objectives as they are trying to create a fascist world government controlling all corporations and people, a pillar of their economic austerity against the west is moving production to third world countries, other low cost countries in Asia and around the world, and communist China. This will create a population dependant on government control and few real jobs for the western civilisations including USA. Socialists support such nazism and fascism naturally, seeking government control over people is part of the party programme, democratic socialists in Europe or social democracy have also proposed a government payment (universal income) since many years now adopted by Dems Party socialists in the USA, which proves that USA has not been attacked by Russia, but by countries like Norway and Sweden (social democracies) which has infiltrated the Dems Party and interfered in the elections.
Mentioned before at least once, but many moons ago here & thus buried untold thousands of posts ago, but to see the controllers in action, in hindsight, just go back to the last week of Feb/1972, when he just up and got on Air Farce One & flew to see Mao in China for 1 week!
To “open up China” was the line used. That was of course the cover lie for the real reason,
Ask yourself “with usa on top of the world then, barely any debt as % of GDP worth mentioning despite the $1T Vietnam war (adjusted for today’s dollars), still all its factories intact, self-sufficient in food,… WHO was holding a gun to Tricky Dicky’s head demanding he do that?”
Then ask second question, similar vein, with name changes: China/Clinton/ WTO, when china was admitted late days of 2001?
so to put that in time perspective that’s about 6 months after Nixon took the last remaining checks & balances out of spending to the moon with printed nothings given to the foreign CB’s,
The convertion of China and the end of the Soviet Union was clearly engineered events by the world elite and there are solid proof of that as Gorbachev was involving the Trilateral Commision in the planning, the National Bank (of Rothschild Syndicate) was established in 1989 and there are records of meetings with the Supreme Soviet as Gorbachev kept them in the loop as they unfolded the dissolution of the Soviet Union. At the time Boris Yeltsin was a secretary for the Supreme Soviet working with Gorbachev.
The world elite are clearly behind the Coronvirus outbreak since they are in (covert) control of institutes developing and researching bioweapons grade viruses meaning taking relatively harmless viruses for humans (like coronavirus patent owned by CDC, Phirbright Institute (officially a vaccine developer linked to the British Bioweapons programme Institutes (Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation involved), researched by DARPA (Pentagon) (Ft. Detrick US Army and CIA involved, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation involved), so there is a definitie link to the world elites, Bill Gates stole the CP/M operating system for the IBM Pc by running a licensed company software of CP/M illegally, calling the operating system his own company name Microsoft, IBM controlled by Rothschild Syndicate was also involved in providing computer to nazi Germany used for controlling jewish population and prosecuting them. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are specifically established in China, are within all the loops of this virus, and work on behalf of the world elites for depopulation and vaccines officially.
A couple virus updates from Canada:
Problem #1: 50-75% of our medical equipment is Made in the USA. With the concerns about border travel, the auto sector answers the call and steps up:
https://twitter.com/PerrinBeatty/status/1239902239805841410
https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/local-auto-sector-capable-of-meeting-emergency-need-for-medical-equipment/
Problem #2: fiscal chaos due to shutdowns. The Big Six (that’s the name for the banks here – it’s kind of an oligopoly) step up (or are convinced to step up) and provide some financial relief:
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/big-six-coordinate-relief-including-six-month-payment-deferrals-1.1407842
Steady on. Canada / UK / France / US joint military exercise cancelled. For obvious reasons. Cough cough.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-army-cancels-its-largest-training-exercise-of-the-year-because-of-covid-19
Paul (Павел):
I doubt that it is the same Paul (the Павел is missing….) but over in the article China Locked in Hybrid War with US (which I very much doubt is the implacable, eternal reality…..this is NOT the time to discount 100% that there is a movement against our rotten elites as never before in our history….even though it still needs much growth and maturation…) I make some points to that Paul
/china-locked-in-hybrid-war-with-us/#comment-775503
in a more serious tone than I made earlier in this Café, regarding the General Lockdown April 1- April 10 thesis.
There you will see in my comment to Other Paul,,,,, the fact that the April 1-10 Trump Strategy to Cripple the Deep State USING the unusual conditions provided by the hysteria and small thinking people are so energetically contributing to here..(Trump.might thank you….would that hurt??? LOL)……is doubted by Frank…..and outlined briefly by Dave of X22 Report….but originated from a certain Dr Russell McGregor.
People can get it directly (without my wisecracks…..which greatly annoyed my wife…..who has rebuffed my minimum “prepping” suggestions for 3 years……………”I lived through the nineties in Russia….there is NO problem here….this is NOTHING!”……but is now in Crisis Response Mode..LOL.)……… in yesterday’s X22 Report ….at about the 18 minute mark:
https://youtu.be/sYVVvMIqKbo?t=1104
Now in Frank’s interview of Dave today (linked within the link to China Locked…..Other Paul Comment) Frank reacts with much doubt at Dave’s and The Doc’s suggestion that BOTH Evil and Patriotic forces might use COVID 19 to their own…..opposing purposes.
I think this is Quite Naïve, Quite Frankly!
This IS a WAR. There have already been millions of civilian casualties…especially ..in the Arab world. There will likely be MORE before this is over! And unavoidably….
HOWEVER, Frank, consider this for a moment,…………….as we mull over Dr McGregor’s April Fools Day through Good Friday Hypothesis.
Despite some innocents unfortunately succumbing…..is it not the case that the general GLOBAL LOCKDOWN using this COVID 19 Theater (played by BOTH DS ….and Patriots..)….produces Political Battlefield Conditions that could be so favorable to the White Hats…..and so disastrous to the Black Hats…that despite some collateral damage of innocents infected by COVID 19………… it is very , very hard to imagine any OTHER circumstances that could result in winning the war….of Crippling the Deep State…..than exactly Dr McGregor’s scenario………which we might be living…right NOW….that could be concluded WITH LESS casualties of innocents!!????
Ummmm???
Still, the very idea got my dear wife momentarily quite angry with me…for daring to even run the scenario by her…..or perhaps just the world of Men and Fighting and other Not So Nice Things…upset her….As The Opposite Of the Way Things Should Be…
Countdown to 2 weeks guys…for the Proof or Disproof of the McGregor HYpothesis!
Bro, I will always be “Paul (Павел)” on this website. I saw the post you refer to and that is definitely NOT me.
The research team at Torus Tech have quickly responded positively to my email and two complimentary copies of Raising Stone 1 are in the post.
Bro, I am wondering if your son has read RS1 and understands the content ?
I do not profess any special knowledge of ancient building constructions outside of Egypt.
Let me know anytime about “out-flanking stuffed-shirts” … LOL.
I hear California is in lock-down so there may be ample time for some reading. The Torus Tech research team have been introduced to Saker’s Cafe as I linked your post and they can read our conversations.
https://saker.community/product/raising-stone-1-paul-hais-racks-and-pinions-theory/
Bro’
MY wife is on board. April (1-10) showers bring May Flowers. Enjoy the show. Wolfhound
How the Worm Turns while hysterical viral overreaction grips the masses:
“WOW! The DOJ moves to dismiss the charges against the Russian company (Concord) who conducted the alleged “information warfare against the US”.
The case will be dismissed with prejudice.
How embarrassing for Team Mueller!
This case has been quite entertaining, as Concord defense attorney Eric Dubelier has, at times, run circles around Special Counsel and DOJ lawyers.
Starting with his claim that the DOJ indicted the proverbial “Ham Sandwich.”
Tweets Techno Fog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4nUjkFSeq8
Red/Green Castle Ready, Clock Activated, Stage Is Set – Episode 2124b
X-22 Report opening minutes…..on the ridiculous Fear Mongering of the Deep State invented “RUSSIAN BOT FARM”.
“They never expected the Russians to show up in the US…..and defend themselves. They had an excellent defense case. The DOJ had nothing…..except the wrong assumption that the Russians falsely accused would never appear in US Court.”
The cover story justifying the dismissal is that they could not go ahead with the prosecution without revealing state secrets. Of course, that is nonsense. If they could not prosecute the case without revealing state secrets, then why did they win the chargers in the first place?
There always seems to be something going on in the private sector that finds a way to be discussed in the public sector, then once public sector wishes cant be met b/c of private sector concerns, the public sector conversation then reflects those concerns. This was probably one of those.
… peripheral evidence … a telling piece of the jigsaw puzzle … ?
US imposes fresh sanctions on Iran amid coronavirus outbreak
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/03/18/621105/US-fresh-sanctions-Iran-coronavirus-outbreak
(Psychopaths Unlimited Ltd, USA)
…Psychopaths Incorporated strike again … 17 March، 2020
Hasaka, SANA- The power plant of Tal Tamir area in Hasaka western countryside went out of service on Monday evening after targeting the power lines which feed it by the Turkish aggression.
https://www.sana.sy/en/?p=188356
Tub to tub
The whole journey –
Just hub-bub !
Tarai kara tarai ni utsuru chimpunkan
Kobayashi Issa
My not-quite yet Red-Pilled sister asks by email:
“Not sure whether this is funny or sad. How did we get this far as a species?”…..about a video
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=228034e032&attid=0.1.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1661453797114239104&th=170eab6cfbb7d880&view=att&disp=safe
that IMHO is just more social Corona nonsense
My reply:
don’t think that toilet paper neighborhood corner “drug score” video is real. But its myth feeds into the whole Dark to Light meme regarding April 1 till April 10 upcoming, setting the stage, so to speak…of the scenario according to Dr Russell McGregor:
https://youtu.be/sYVVvMIqKbo?t=1067
SO….. I wouldn’t stress over it.
But neither will I be the least bit surprised if the Dark to Light GLOBAL LOCKDOWN beginning the first of April…..and lasting TEN DAYS until 4/10/20 …………..occurs largely as outlined in the above link.
4 = D
10= J
20 = T
Donald John Trump
Don’t get weirded out…. all it means is that CODE IS IN EFFECT………….like every single time Trump misspells something and gets called an idiot.
Doesn’t matter…what it means is NOT that you are smarter than the president…..it means he’s using code that is accessible if considerable effort and interest are present in the curious…… or isn’t accessible if the observer of the “mistakes” merely wants to remain on a self-consoling ego trip and has zero curiosity as to what is being communicated in code….and WHY it is in code.
Expect MORE CODE in the next 14 days either solidifying…or altering McGregor’s April 1 thru April 10 Global Lockdown (“Dark”) hypothesis.
The toilet paper caper,
makes you go aper,
unless you are at the saker.
the toilet paper keeper
makes you go deeper
unless you read the saker
(apologies for riding your words my friend but I couldn’t abstain)
I’m going to watch Trump’s news conference today – have an idea there is ‘Big Sh!t? coming or in the brewing up. Look at the tweets – insisting on calling it the Chinese Virus. Are we going to see a direct accusation? Or a veiled accusation? Hmmm .. if so, the political stuff is probably hitting the fan. And if so, the economic data that I am sitting on, is right on. We’ll see.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
2h
I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the “borders” from China – against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240243188708839424
·
2h
I will be having a news conference today to discuss very important news from the FDA concerning the Chinese Virus!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240234698053431305
amarynth
I think Trump knows full well now that the virus didn’t originate in China but it suits his mentality to double down on the “China did it” mantra… so he will keep up with this infantile behavior.
He is by nature a compulsive liar but he also knows full well that if the MSM is on board with a particular narrative then joining in and repeating it endlessly, results in it becoming a fact for the majority of Mainstreet, even if it happens to be a totally reckless and outrageous lie. This is arguably the greatest weapon in the Deep State’s arsenal and it is in constant use.
If the US persists with this strategy the situation becomes very dangerous for humanity. As I understand it, viruses can be traced back to their original point of origin absolutely conclusively by competent scientists. The stakes here could not be higher because this is an act of warfare in its most vile form.
The problem for Trump now is that even if he wasn’t privy to the plot initially he too is a culprit now because he is covering for them. He is now up to his eyeballs in it…his position as POTUS depends on this being kept under wraps and so too for the sake of the reputation of his nation.
If it gets out that the Hegemon hatched this virus and lied about every aspect of it whilst it spread around the globe the US’s diplomatic reputation, or what remains of it, will be in total ruin.
Regards
Col
Exactly ! as the lies have been growing exponentially, the actual situation has become the last desired timing for telling the truth, there’s no way out just another lying from the sleeve to be served. At this level, and in this situation, it is dangerously inadequate to tell the truth…a self made trap, accumulated in time.
I don’t know where this will lead, although it isn’t hard to imagine nowadays when the hell got loose.
there should be a cafe only for the corona affair it is of nothing else in the world is happening I am getting sick of this corona stuff
Something constructive put in place would be good, but how and what is crucially important, as more divide and conquer is the last thing needed right now.
Maybe simply drawing attention to corona-information-saturation and geopolitical overkill – numbed brain disease – will help tn letting people step back a moment, pause for a deep breath, read a few of the many, many links, or take some time out to contemplate, reflect, before contributing once more.
I’m too … sick of it. But I really think we will settle down now. I think the ‘storming’ period is now over and we will all go into some kind of reflection now and form into a very new reality.
(I’m not using ‘storming’ here in the sense of the 17th letter of the alphabet nonsense, but as a psychological construct (just before Bro jumps on the use of the word – give it up Bro93).
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-diagnosis-ct-scans-lungs-2020-2?r=US&IR=T#scans-from-a-27-year-old-woman-who-worked-in-wuhan-showed-a-ground-glass-halo-white-patches-that-surround-a-small-nodule-5
According to one cases study, a 33-year-old woman arrived at a hospital in Lanzhou, China with a fever and five-day-old cough. Her temperature was 102 degrees Fahrenheit, her breathing was “coarse,” and she had a low white blood cell count — a sign of infection.
In an initial CT scan, researchers at the First Hospital of Lanzhou University found the recognizable ground-glass patches in the lower corner of her lungs.
They gave her a protein used to treat viral infections, called interferon. But three days later — and further into her treatment — the patches were more pronounced. Lakhani said the same thing occurred in SARS patients.
“If you didn’t know about this outbreak, you’d read the scan and you would just say, ‘Okay, this patient has pneumonia,’ because that’s the most common thing we see,” he said.
But Lakhani added that “pneumonia usually doesn’t rapidly progress,” so it could be ruled out in this case.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pneumonia/
The symptoms of pneumonia can develop suddenly over 24 to 48 hours, or they may come on more slowly over several days.
Somebody is telling porkies.
https://reason.com/2020/03/17/italian-daily-death-rate-up-20-because-of-coronavirus-lombardy-up-about-80/#comment-8170417
This calculation seems faulty since at least some (possibly between 15-20%) of those “extra” Coronavirus deaths include people who would have died even without the Coronavirus. This isn’t the case with something like the flu that kills people of all ages and even the healthy.
But even with the flu (or regardless of the cause of death), it seems incorrect to add the number of deaths reportedly caused by something in particular onto the daily average because doesn’t the average already include those kinds of deaths?
For example, there were 24,981 flu deaths in Italy during the 2017 winter season. That works out to around 278 deaths per day. You can’t add those 278 deaths onto the daily average because the daily average included those kinds of deaths. Coronavirus is not as seasonal as the flu, but viruses like it are and kill people every day.
Report from the hot zone:
The Governor of California is talking “martial law”… if people who bought guns in LA think that they will be able to drive up to the store and pick them up after the mandatory 10 day or so waiting period, I think that they will have some rethinking to do. Also anyone with a registered gun had better do like the Viet Minh did in 1956, bury them deep.
So I was out filling up on those necessities which will not be delivered possibly very soon by Meals on Wheels for Old Folks. These meals will not include distilled water for making colloidal silver, or vodka for medicinal use.By the way, those who want to read an excruciating story by Scott concerning his bout with SARS can check his comment under the article he translated by Prof Chuchalin.
Meanwhile like minded people are communicating survival hints and thus organizing on line. There will be those during these times who have to leave….time’s up!!! And there will be those who stay to serve and to guide the discussion into a Renewed America. And the great seething middle will be those who want to duke it out.
But I see the embryonic form of the future. ( wish I could do one of Dimiter’s knock out koans on that metaphor, but it is not leaping forth or swimming up from the depths to rise and splash.) But for now there is grief out in the public realm– loads of suppressed grief, and anger that things will never be the same, that we can’t really blame the Chinese, and we will have to collectively realize that, yes, Americans too have to suffer as part of the human condition. Wake up and smell the Coffee, oh exceptional land!!! And join the human race, again in humility and service to one another.
Two important things to know:
For those who absolutely hate neti pots for nasal lavage:
https://ndnr.com/bacterialviral-infections/alternative-treatment-for-chronic-sinusitis/
I am gargling periodically especially when I enter back into my home from outside but I merely stare at my neti pot which I found covered with dust on a back shelf where I was hoping it would stay forever!!!
Then for those with a certain amount of dietary discipline ( give up food that grow yeast inside you…whatever)
Here is something regarding pH ( high pH is anathema to Viruses) and the use of sodium bicarb.
https://drsircus.com/general/viruses-are-ph-sensitive/
And lastly a Youtube video …basically immunology 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNxXfwlP3A
Here’s a ‘feel good’ article:
Volunteers produce 3D-printed valves for life-saving coronavirus treatments
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184308/coronavirus-italy-medical-company-threatens-sue-3d-print-valves-treatments
The text in the URL above may be a bit misleading and, assuming they work and absent anything more to the story, I seriously doubt anyone would want to sue in the present situation.
Since weeks I hold my breath, facing the constellation of these days. I nearly can’t believe the mightiness of the current synchronicities. An economical crash never seen since 1929 and the silence in the streets of the cities on our planet. A very first paradox collective planetary event, synchronized with the horoscope of the northern hemisphere. This week takes the energy of lock down to the top.
https://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-master-of-breaks-starts-new-thinking.html
For all those who have had enough talk for the moment
Here’s a wonderfully happy crowd giving their all
https://youtu.be/1-YtH2ETgnY
Virus?? Someone mention a virus?
First I’ve heard of it.
Someone say something about “a storm”?
Maybe where they are……
But not where I am, in the OC.
We don’t even have weather here…..
But I’m not takin’ any credit nor commanding anyone to pray for either sunshine or rain, no matter where they are, nor say or not say anything whatsoever.
As though that would do any good!
I just leave them be…..and let the elements unfold……. as they will.
The Big News I’m hearin’ is that Google has been brought to heel by Trump ….and things that were formally censored are now popping up in people’s searches……Ray Chandler……Pedovores …..and even a 9/11 documentary that reportedly could not be pulled up using Google for many years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BqXQQFvOWM
9/11 Loose Change
They say someone in control wants people to start learning, fast.
Could be.
It’s about time, is all I can say..
But I don’t know. I haven’t used Google as my default search engine for many years.
a virus on the wing
a storm on the run,
he aint takin’ no credit
or commanding anyone
the don’s on the loose,
prayin’ on fears,
but ol’ bro’s been de-googled
already for years…
Bro, the Google thing … No my friend, Trump did not do anything (or perhaps he did).
What Google did though is to create manually curated “bias lists”. After you work through your bias list which Google gives you nicely, their algorithm works yet again. So, those that are back on Google because Trump supposedly made Google toe the line, are seeing what Google wants them to see and only a little of that anyways. This time, if you look for say Alex Jones, you will find him. But, you will find all of the other ones that look so good, but are .gov mouthpieces, not really independent media, and so on – and it looks like a treasure trove. It is not that, but rather a sleigh of hand.
So, you ask for source. I cannot tell you but I can tell you it is from a tech that I have a great respect for, closely aligned with the people around The Saker blog. I actually tested this yesterday and hotdamn! manually created bias lists – even if I have not used Google in many many years. Seemingly even if I don’t use them, they try to use me as a fool :-)
So, you think Trump did it? Uhmmm … Anyways, can you work in your circles to let people have the correct information? We would be doing the folks that are streaming back to Google, a kindness.
No dear amarynth, just like you, I’m a creature of habit. So, I won’t be going “back to Google” in this life-time.
I love your declarations of absolute fact: “No Trump did not do anything…..” by which I intuit you mean “anything good” ….as your emotional default setting there (as with “Aussie Man Bad”) is absolutely dead set against ever admitting to that possibility.
But the problem with such rigidity …is its brittleness……… its breakability
Careful now!
But you are getting more careful: (“or perhaps he did”) Amazing progress!
But it’s not that amazing, that surprising…..because you’re not insane and everyone of us that isn’t completely insane will eventually correct our most critical errors, change our assumptions based on premature, incomplete, emotional prejudice…..and….in the simplest example…..refrain from placing our childish hand back on a hot stove….ever again.
Sorry, but your third paragraph is too mysteriously coy for me to get anything useful out of it.
What’s The Big Secret?? If one is needed for security, why even hint around at it?
The Illumined One…..keeping The Light to herself???
Such a tease! LOL.
I’m not trying to be difficult but just pointing out that I make no such declarations of absolute fact in this thread, as you attempt to….but also offer “perhaps”….the opposite!
Your Last Paragraph: Did I say “I think Trump did it.”?
Did I say, “Now everything is completely wonderful..Whoopeee! Everyone in the Google Pool!”:?????
NO!
What I did say in effect, is that there is “a delta”….”a change” …in the news…..and maybe “keep an eye on it out of the corner of your eye……your peripheral vision” instead of proceeding rigidly ahead, not wanting to admit that any new deltas….are even possible…because you love your present direction SO much…..it would be…just TOO emotionally painful…… to ever “sleigh_ly” …… ( I assume you dropped the “t” because of your sleigh_ emotional prejudice there against a certain surname that starts with that letter ???) ……pause ever so briefly for any curious investigations off to the side of the Straight and Narrow Path of Absolute (but substantially hidden) Truth.
Can I work in “my circles” to let people have the “correct information”.???
I don’t know if I have any such “circles” that will imbibe “the straight poop” (I can see why they hesitate…..LOL) from either me…… or you. Most people intelligent enough to be worth talking to have a healthy scepticism of ANY absolutisms….. and reserve the right to make up their own minds as to what is “correct”.
And the ones that correct their course the most often…with small adjustments (corrections) are the ones whose intelligence most attracts my attention.
However, Major Storms….often do call for departing from our previously charted courses…….a bit more decisively….and radically.
Cheers!
Sorry, Bro93, that is as much as what I am able to say. You may feel free to throw it away – I won’t be offended :-)
I hope Trump did not do this – the Google ‘hand curated bias lists’. Maybe he was involved, maybe not. I don’t know and I’m not bothered. I am more bothered about the folks that think Google is now ‘speaking truth’.
What a quiet world can be this one. Who would have thought?
This man gives a calm lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP-mCfo4-f8
Folks that don’t feel like listening to this, do yourselves favor and go and listen to The Sounds of Silence, at 4:15 time marker. It is a feat of human ingenuity. Lovely, just lovely what these damn humans will get up to.
I agree! And
Laughter is the Best Medicine,
Swami….
Mundo pauses
From Celestial search,
Finds a gem…on Earth!
A bit more levity..
and anti-gravity,
To healing the Rift,
To assist the Shift
The Big Shifty
The Times, They Are A Shifty.
And I don’t mean Adam…
Or only Eve-ning. No Sirree,
Mein Herren und Damen!
Its so “Global” and “All-Gender”!
Its morning, noon and midnight
Pole to shifty pole, legal tender
To TP, shuffling Left to Right!
And Right? Well, what’s Left
Of it is hardly recognizable….
And what Remains is Brexit?
Confused? You’re too reasonable!
Shift on your axiomatic axis,
Give a new spin.. or brain will stop!
Please! Coronal virus prophylaxis
Be swift, make infection rate drop!
What was 29 K… is comin’ down
Who was gloatin’s…. cryin’ now!
Some blame Trump, others Crown.
Ying -Yang, The Way, The Dao.
“And Right? Well, what’s Left”
well turn your eyes to noon:
The right hand points to the evening called west
the left turns to the morning called east
but in Oz, or SA or Lat.A. Sun rises to the right hand
and descends to the left
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2016/11/cephalopods.html
Anything has it’s place in the given order
and the symbolic life is to be lived in it,
a perfect unconscious mirror to the material
life, which also is to be lived, waiting to become
conscious of the rhythms of things in Sun’s Universe.
Oh, he’s talking about handling disease gracefully, this is a beautiful concept altogether !
Then in the next breath he speaks without blinking in line with the scientific model so prevalent, “fight the virus!”
We must fight the virus, virology is a war, a battle, the survival of the fittest !
But healing is grace.
On here we have seen the battle of the bulge – ever expanding threads on Covid 19 with virulent verbiage…
Ras
“I say more: the just man justices,
keeps grace:
that keeps all his goings graces.
Acts in God’s eye what in God’s eye he is-
Christ –
For Christ plays in ten thousand places,
Lovely in limbs and lovely in eyes not his,
To the Father,
Through the features of men’s faces.”
Gerard Manley Hopkins
Welcome back Ras
Rumor, sad rumor, has it that Tulsi has endorsed Biden. So ironically I salute her with a song from a culture that knows how to lay down a better battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkpiwHo0Po0
this one stanza comes to mind but in respect to this site, I’ll only post the final line.
… ” tis the final conflict, let each stand in his place, the international working class will be the human race.
Tis indeed true. Here is the tweet.
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1240650484546859008
The musical salute is very appropriate.
Enough said about the CCP ( I do not for a minute believe their hype anymore than I believe the hype of the Wall Street Journal). but this man is one of my heroes and he deserved at least this much:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-apologizes-wife-whistleblower-doctor-who-died-after-contracting-coronavirus