Moveable Feast Cafe 2020/11/21 … Open Thread

“You are beginning to sound like a high class Englishwoman rather than a Welsh Dragon.”

We get so many Anony – mouses on here, it’s hard to tell one from t’other :-) . However, clearly you attend here often, as you know that I may take your statement as an insult.

Since it was me you were insulting, you could feel secure, since my strong impression is that it is considered perfectly OK to insult me, whereas I can say anything mildly defensive, and I’m “moderated” or even censured. Many of my responses never make it to the screen. !!

However, it’s quite observant of you in this case. I have spent my life learning how to live with a foot in 2 worlds. I am Cymraeg and grew up with Cymraeg mores, rules, characteristics;. Cymraeg Ruled, in my home. But I was surrounded by Saxons, and had to learn how to live with them, different as they are to us.

I am in Myers Briggs terms, an INTJ / INFJ. So I have had to learn to use my objective, analytic mind, while marrying it with my deeply emotional, strongly held personal standards,.. heart. I am a Sun Aries, whose fire drives my inner being, while being a strong Libra Ascendent, whose sense of Justice and vision of achieving balance rule my interaction with the outer world – and gets stronger as I grow older.

So yes, I was brought up to deal with the Saxon, as an English Lady – who NEVER needs to “wash out your mouth” {given the lack of 4 letter words, it’s mystery of what. But then again, not being specific about an insult is par for the course, n’est pas?”}. But nothing can or will ever damp my Welsh Dragon and his Fire, fed as he is by the Ruling Planet!!

There is one aspect of being both a Cymraeg Dragon with a Fire Aries, that is our “to your face, open blunt, truthfulness”. There is a line from Cymraeg Histories from the Latin: “he spoke as true Welshman, who spoke his truth bluntly and directly to anyone, even to his own Prince”. The snide, nasty little covert name dropping attacks favoured by the Saxons find no home with us. The little wordy attacks that hide behind a curtain will aways draw a flame.

You sought to insult – you can only insult if the object of your attack values your opinion. I wonder if you know the line from Rands “opus magnus” “you should refrain from giving unwanted opinions, thus saving yourself the consequence of learning their exact value to your listener”.

However, it’s been of value. It has highlighted yet again the imbalance which would always bring out the Dragon of Justice, the Scales of Balance: that is when a rule is applied unevenly.

One contributor can and does, regularly and frequently, indeed characteristically, say nothing in any post, just throw in a few words in one line, with a link, and it is accepted. I do it but once, and I draw a public reprimand [couple of Cafe’s ago].

One contributor, who will, of course, go nameless, can make nasty comments about me, calling me names using an adjective which any Dictionary can define as a highly negative character trait, and it is printed out, over and over. Let me make a demand that this needling of me stop, and the person have the honesty to name names, and again, I am publically reprimanded.

Sad to say, this sort of thing has been occurring quite a bit over the last 6 months; It seems to go, but rears it’s head again and again.

My Tarot reading tells me “watch out for synchronicities; look for tell tale signs – you’ll see them. They are there”.

Things change. After all change is the one Universal Constant; a seeming Paradox isn’t it?. The only Constant is that there is No Constant. Atmospheres change. People come and go, and what was once a happy, pleasurable place of poetry and recipes and discussion becomes a “woke” place where a difference of opinion is no longer a subject for interesting discussion, but instead draws opprobrium and insult; where rules are applied unevenly leaving one worrying about what one writes, trying to phrase words that will be “acceptable”. The “cold” effect of censorship, leaving the individual to so worry over their own self-censorship that free exchange of ideas becomes impossible.

Best not to stay. I’ve always, all my life, said, “If this is giving us angst, and not working out, I’ll just leave”. And I do. Often without even stopping to say goodbye. But to those I’ve known here, good of heart and intelligent and honest in their conversation, can I say “it’s been a pleasure to know you. Take care in these changing times, and may you find happiness”.

This problem may not be as fixable as the establishment wishes.

In the past during moments like this, the wealthy would “retreat” to their safe zones, places built far from the cities to avoid the current local calamity, while the city folks payed dearly for being packed in like sardines.

This time its global, there are no places to run and hide to and reside as a separate community, we are a higher strung version than our slower living, horse drawn ancestors, and as such speedily transport not only ourselves, but the bug right along with it.

No, I think history will show that this era of time was the beginning of a great global depression, one that has yet to be recognized by the majority.

Rob,

I remember from back in March, reading an Iranian recommendation to clear the nasal passages and gargle – I think it may have been with hot water and salt – it’s the same principle as the mouthwash. We in the UK, on the other hand, are being encouraged to submit to a gene altering / irrevocable vaccine – and some are advocating that it be compulsory – or de facto compulsory because you will be effectively under house arrest if you don’t take it.

Meanwhile, it has emerged that SAGE, who were the first to call for lockdowns, used Wikipedia for its modelling,

“…The new documentary ‘Lockdown 1.0 – Following the Science?’…..also revealed that SAGE did not have a single expert in human coronaviruses in its ranks in early spring. …”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coronaviruslockdowns/video-2295648/Video-SAGE-used-Wikipedia-no-experts-investigation-reveals.html?mwv_rm=rta

The article from which I copied the above quote has disappeared.

Cheers Sand.

So I guess you believe in bleach too!

Honestly I have not read so much rubbish for many years (since i believed in Santa Claus).

As with every single disease known to humans, various things may help – a little bit.. Sure salt, even sugar or bleach will reduce the virus load and may reduce the chance of getting sick, but it is sort of a bit like using glad wrap as a condom. failure rate is high.

This should be obvious to everyone and i find those who propose any single solution – diet, bleach, mouthwash or even masks as utterly stupid. Diseases enter our bodies in may different ways – mouth, nose skin etc and various precautions will each help – a little bit.

However what i find offensive in these sort of comments is that it is an elitism of the healthy. Sure young and fit or the healthy can fight off the virus by good food, fresh air and common sense, but not everyone has this luxury. The old are obviously more at risk as are those with health conditions.

Implicitly I think those who dismiss the virus are anti age ie they reckon that death of those who are 80 plus is OK. let em die and save society the cost burden of pensions etc.

Re. the claim that Sidney Powell is “not on Trump’s legal team”: is that indeed true, or simply fake news – propagated now by no one else but … “Sputnik”?!

Who is that “Ben Jacobs” whose tweet “Sputnik” was so quick to quote? There have not been corroborations from any other news source whatsoever.

A card has yet to be played Bob, one that could cripple todays financial and educational establishments.

But the poor and middle classes will also take the hit, much like they are taking the covid hit right now.