2020/11/28 17:00:02
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https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/11/17/lord-malloch-brown-revealed-the-british-hand-behind-coup-shows-its-scales-again/
important summary on the evil cast of characters involved in Russiagate, the attempted coup on trump, and the ongoing coup/fraudulent elections: “lord” malloch brown, soros, strobe talbot, obama admin players, sam power, cal sunstein, et al.
Insidious, evil, and wide spread and hugely funded!
Despite the number of ‘deaths’ and ‘cases’ rising, it seems we have the flu under control here in Canada.
Scroll down to figure 3b.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/fluwatch/2020-2021/week-46-november-8-november-14-2020.html
It’s interesting because this has been shown to be the case in all Empire nations, however Russia has had a decline in Influenza for years – steadily every year, it has decreased significantly.
That this is in line with the increasing overall health of Russians, with jobs, incomes, good food, alcohol consumption falling, pollution especially of chemicals from inefficient industries falling exponentially; smoking falling, and participation in sports rising hasn’t been noticed. Sadly, I suspect most Russians will think its due to a “vaccine”.
Had to look it up, and it seems you’re correct: global decline in influenza. Of the 108k test, only 100 reported positive.
https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs_laboratory/updates/flunet_globalviruscirculation_20201120.pdf?ua=1
NoNickYet
Same here down under!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122476223/coronavirus-while-covid19-takes-lives-around-the-world-new-zealands-response-has-led-to-fewer-deaths-from-all-causes
…a quote from this link…
“As Covid-19 causes a significant increase in death rates for much of the world, New Zealand is likely one of the few countries where the global pandemic has caused a reduction in deaths.
Nearly 1200 fewer people have died this year than had at the same point in 2019, data from Stats NZ shows.
The data show the weekly number of deaths from all causes. As of July 20, 17,955 people had died this year.
It is the lowest absolute figure since 2016; when accounting for population growth, it is the lowest death rate per 100,000 people in at least 10 years, the period in which data is available.
It puts New Zealand in an enviable position. While other countries find hidden Covid-19-related deaths in excess mortality figures – which, in hard-hit areas, can be more than 50 percent – New Zealand’s death rate is running around five percent lower than the average rate over the previous five years.”
Cheers
Col
Finally the Common Sense meme has made it’s first firm foothold on the cliff of insanity looming over us:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/
A ruling handed down by a Court of Law in Portugal – which is a major EU nation – has found for 4 Germans who claimed they had been illegally detained in a hotel in Portugal because one of them had supposedly returned a +ve to a Covid test. Among the rulings and reasons given, the judges stated that :–
The deliberation of the Lisbon Appeal Court is comprehensive and fascinating. It ruled that the Azores Regional Health Authority had violated both Portuguese and international law by confining the Germans to the hotel. The judges also said that only a doctor can “diagnose” someone with a disease, and were critical of the fact that they were apparently never assessed by one.
They were also scathing about the reliability of the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test, the most commonly used check for Covid.
The conclusion of their 34-page ruling included the following: “In view of current scientific evidence, this test shows itself to be unable to determine beyond reasonable doubt that such positivity corresponds, in fact, to the infection of a person by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.”
In the eyes of this court, then, a positive test does not correspond to a Covid case. The two most important reasons for this, said the judges, are that, “the test’s reliability depends on the number of cycles used’’ and that “the test’s reliability depends on the viral load present.’’ In other words, there are simply too many unknowns surrounding PCR testing.
Tested positive? There could be as little as a 3% chance it’s correct
This is not the first challenge to the credibility of PCR tests. Many people will be aware that their results have a lot to do with the number of amplifications that are performed, or the ‘cycle threshold.’ This number in most American and European labs is 35–40 cycles, but experts have claimed that even 35 cycles is far too many, and that a more reasonable protocol would call for 25–30 cycles. (Each cycle exponentially increases the amount of viral DNA in the sample).
Earlier this year, data from three US states – New York, Nevada and Massachusetts – showed that when the amount of the virus found in a person was taken into account, up to 90 percent of people who tested positive could actually have been negative, as they may have been carrying only tiny amounts of the virus.
The Portuguese judges cited a study conducted by “some of the leading European and world specialists,” which was published by Oxford Academic at the end of September. It showed that if someone tested positive for Covid at a cycle threshold of 35 or higher, the chances of that person actually being infected is less than three percent, and that “the probability of… receiving a false positive is 97% or higher.”
It will surprise no-one that this has received ZERO publication in any MSM outlet. INdeed, in the insane UK the madness is escalating, with orders to “not hug Granny” and for groups together in a house not to touch etc.
But – the more this news is spread, hopefully, the more the tide of Common Sense [although thought by many to be extinct] may grow and grow.
Also Pamela,
did you see this link from PerNorway ?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/johns-hopkins-study-mysteriously-disappears-shows-spite-covid-no-deaths-2020-prior-years/
From it :
“….Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same…”
MSM trying very hard to make thee sort of stories disappear.
Very interesting sandy. Good link.
It’s beginning to be more obvious and deeply suspicious the way the MSM tries ot lose and bury everything which shows a truth, isn’t it?
It is scientifically incorrect to make judgement based on ONE country. Sure Norway does seem to have done very well but compare that to virtually every other country and you get a very, very different story re excess mortality. Germany has also done very well.
Additionally a decline in death from other infections diseases eg flu will OBVIOUSLY follow the introduction of infection control measures. If people are not mixing the flu and common colds and even most pneumonia bugs will not have a chance to infect others. There is probably a decline in vehicle and boating accidents too if people are not travelling. Possibly of course suicides might increase although the evidence does not really support this.
Hi Pamela,
I am not sure that Portugal “is a major EU nation” – “major” are those that are obeyed when they tell the others what (not) to do, and these are Germany and its signal repeater, France. It will be instructive to see how this Portuguese ruling will be flushed down the drain like all other arguments that make sense but contradict the current warmongering needs – in the ideological war against all normal behaviour and judgment, and this in the preparation of the next “real” war against, how original, Russia, that we already have a pretext for (‘Russia poisoned Naval’nyj with a military weapon, Novichok’, still not officially withdrawn by top war mongering liar Angela Hitler) and are, in the eyes of RU, now really preparing for, so that Germany’s minister for warmongering, the catholic hurling dervish from the Saarland, Annegretkrampkarrenbauer/AKK, is taken seriously with her latest statement that ‘Germany has to deal with Russia from a “Position of Strength”‘.
I am happy that you were allowed to make clear, quoting the authority of judges in a small peripherical member of the EU, that “a positive test does not correspond to a Covid case” and that “they were also scathing about the reliability of the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test, the most commonly used check for Covid. (…) This is not the first challenge to the credibility of PCR tests…”
and: “… the results have a lot to do with the number of amplifications that are performed, or the ‘cycle threshold.’ This number in most American and European labs is 35-40 cycles, but experts have claimed that even 35 cycles is far too many, and that a more reasonable protocol would call for 25-30 cycles. (Each cycle exponentially increases the amount of viral DNA in the sample).”
But “It will surprise no-one that this has received ZERO publication in any MSM outlet.”
What about non-MSM outlets like The Saker’s Café?
When someone – me, a BND-official “you do not exist” case – posts here 5 days ago –
“(…) 1. The first main argument why the talk about the dangerousness of the Corona”virus” is ridiculous, fraudulous and criminal is that THIS VIRUS DOES NOT EXIST. (…) Ion Rappoport’s blog “nomorefakenews.com” explains this in detail – I pointed to these articles before already. (…)
2. The second main argument is that the search for the nonexisting virus (or rather for specific junks parts in human cells that are THOUGHT to be correlated “with” the “corona …” uh, malady), the “PCR-test”, by medical test stations may be done in a reasonable, honest truthful way – or, as another criminal trick for inventing problems, in a criminal way to produce illegal effects out of knowingly produced “false positives”. The PCR test – which was NOT invented for finding the coronavirus – treats cell material taken from a person and tries to find the sought material by applying the search method several times. Some days ago I read that a Chinese corona specialist said: with 24 repetitions all the material that is found is genuine – there will be no false positives. The recommended (by who? W.H.O.?) number, however, is 33 passes – thus you also get some material that should not be taken into account. However, the standard number of tours is 34-37, “and with 40+ you can prove anything you want”. Again, we do not know what degree of sincerity or truth the results have in a given real test, because the number of rounds is not mentioned….”
– why is this censored until another cafeista comes up with the same findings ca one week later from another source, quoting their wording without an own statement on the content…? My arguing was longer, not restricted to two points where thankfully Portuguese judges have spoken truth ex cathedra, and went to the heart of the corona matter: corona verdicts from lay politicians without base in reality but with a very clear goal, stubbornly stuck to brainwash the public until everybody accepts everything just to be left in peace so that the next steps, like inventing a war for equally bogus causes, will be accepted without resistance.
On Nov 23 I also did recomment the great work done by Ion Rappoport on nomorefakenews.com in debunking “THE VIRUS” and the methods to falsely “prove” its existence and “dangerousness” – how nice that now SeptikSceptik was allowed to do the same thing and recommend reading Rappoport.
One possible genuine answer to my rhetorical question is that after sending my text out, my laptop suddenly trumpeted that “There is no internet”, and “The internet” or any connection to it did not return for many hours. So, the censorship I did not appreaciate may have executed by our BND-/Gestapostructures.
Generally speaking, I am not sure that ever more commentless presentations of url’s or copypasted texts of others are what God wanted when He created this Cafe.
bp
Anonymous
You said…”THIS VIRUS DOES NOT EXIST”…
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/11/16/kochs-postulates-covid-and-misinformation-rabbit-holes.html
…to quote from the link…
“Take a 19th century German scientist, a 21st century disease and add the internet – the result is a dangerous upsurge in Covid-denial nonsense, writes Associate Professor Siouxsie Wiles.
I’ve had quite a few messages from people who believe they have evidence that Covid-19, or more specifically the virus responsible, SARS-CoV-2, doesn’t exist. They even believe they have the paperwork to prove it. And that paperwork is convincing if you don’t know otherwise. It comes in the form of Official Information Act requests to governments, universities, and scientific and academic institutions all around the world.
But this is no global coverup. Instead, it’s a case of the internet finding the work of a German microbiologist who died over a hundred years ago combined with people sticking rigidly to a specific definition of the word isolation.
Let’s start with that German microbiologist. Robert Koch was born in 1843 and by all accounts was a very clever chap. He trained as a doctor before becoming one of the founders of microbiology as a field of experimental science. Before his death in 1910 he made lots of important contributions. In the 1870s he discovered that anthrax was caused by the bacterium Bacillus anthracis, the first time a specific microbe was linked to a specific disease. He followed that up in 1882 with his discovery that the slow-growing bacterium Mycobacterium tuberculosis was the cause of tuberculosis (TB). Better known back then as consumption, TB had long been thought to be a hereditary disease.
Koch’s postulates, aka how to tell whether a microbe causes disease…
Robert Koch is also famous for his “postulates”, the four conditions he and his mentor Jakob Henle postulated had to be met for a microbe to be considered the cause of a disease. It is these postulates that have now been discovered by the internet and (badly) applied to Covid-19. This is how Koch’s postulates were first laid out more than 130 years ago:
1 The organism must always be present, in every case of the disease.
2 The organism must be isolated from a host containing the disease and grown in pure culture.
3 Samples of the organism taken from pure culture must cause the same disease when inoculated into a healthy, susceptible animal in the laboratory.
4 The organism must be isolated from the inoculated animal and must be identified as the same original organism first isolated from the originally diseased host.
So, in the light of the 21st century how do the postulates hold up? Well, the first one was soon abandoned by Koch himself with the discovery that people could be asymptomatic carriers of the microbes responsible for cholera and typhoid fever. In the years since, we’ve come to understand that many microbes can live in and on people and only cause disease under certain circumstances. We’ve also come to understand that some microbes can set off a chain reaction that leads to disease long after the organism in question has been cleared by the immune system.
The second postulate should really read something like: it would be nice if the organism could be isolated and grown in pure culture. That’s because we don’t even know the conditions under which many microbes grow outside of their host. Take Mycobacterium leprae which causes leprosy. As far as we know, that can only grow in humans, nine-banded armadillos, and a mouse’s footpad. Just because we can’t grow it in pure culture doesn’t mean it isn’t responsible for leprosy. Indeed, using genomic sequencing, we know there are way more microbes than we’ve ever been able to grow in pure culture.
Obviously postulates three and four suffer from the same issue if the microbe can’t be grown in culture. Postulate three would also be better phrased as should cause the same disease when inoculated into a susceptible animal in the laboratory. I say should and specify susceptible because we also now know that some microbes can’t cause disease in a healthy host but can if the host is immune-compromised.
So regardless of what people believe about “virus theory” or what they think their seemingly vexatious requests for evidence show, Covid-19 continues to cause devastation around the world. The sad thing is, bad faith arguments like these are undermining attempts to bring the pandemic under control. And the consequences of that are deadly.”
…unquote…
It is tragic to see an argument this fundamentally flawed still being repeatedly regurgitated on this site. One of the main premises was abandoned by Koch himself over a century ago and yet it is once again being dragged out of the dustbin. This is both dangerous and irresponsible…it will potentially add massively to the death toll, which is escalating out of control in the US right at this moment.
Tell me bp, when the death toll in the US hits 400,000-500,000 sometime in 2021 will the virus still be a harmless hoax that doesn’t exist?
YCHMTSU
Col
I tend to visit this site after a heated debate on Covid
https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/people-and-poverty/trade-and-poverty/effects-of-poverty/story
And to quote from the site:
“ Every hour of every day more than 700 children die. The causes of death vary, but the vast majority can be traced down to one single cause: poverty.
The leading causes of death for children under five include preventable or treatable diseases such as pneumonia, diarrhoea, and malaria.”
It puts things in perspective, and reminds me there are bigger things we need to focus on.
But then again, that is just mho.
Yes I think those behind this hoax on the worlds people is their ability to use poverty hence unhealthy humans and sick from gmo food etc.
here is a brilliant article that I encourage all to read, that explains the PTB attempt at there great reset with their idea of a great reset opposed to what a true great reset for humanity looks like.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/11/25/zero-point-our-4th-industrial-revolution-against-their-great-reset/
“It is tragic to see an argument this fundamentally flawed still being repeatedly regurgitated on this site.”
https://livingfullynourished.com/news/en/2020/04/23/0001/virus-and-exosomes
“Koch’s postulates for microorganisms were redefined for viruses because viruses don’t fulfil the first requirement of the initial Koch’s postulates. Since then, the criteria for virus causality of a disease have evolved over the years (8)
Current postulates for viruses are Rivers’ criteria (9):
1) Isolation
2) Cultivation in hosts cells
3) Proof of filterability
4) Cause the same disease
5) Re-isolation
6) Detection of specific immune response
Dr. Andrew Kaufman states that the main problem is that it is not possible to isolate a virus and the cultivation is not made in hosts cells. (12)
It has been claimed that Rivers’ criteria has been shown to be fulfilled for SARS-CoV-1 (the virus related to SARS epidemic on 2002-2003) (10). Dr. Andrew Kaufman (12) gives a closer look on this paper, and argues that this is not correct.
1) They didn’t isolate the virus, they just found genetic material.
2) They used monkey kidney cells for culture, not the human host cells.
3) They did not prove filterability.
4) They inoculate the virus obtained in a culture of monkey kidney cells (not the human host cells), and only 1 of the 2 monkeys got respiratory syndroms.
5) The did not re-isolate the virus. They just did a genetic testing.
6) The antibody response was not described as specific.
Concerning Covid-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2), there are not studies up to date that met the first three criteria and any studies address the rest of the criteria. (12)
My question is: can we be sure that following these postulates is a guarantee of cause-effect relationship between a certain virus and a certain disease?
I’m fairly certain that, if tested, exosomes could follow these criteria.
If a person is inoculated (injected) with exosomes, the body will react as if these exosomes have been produced by the self body: they will be replicated in the recipient cells and they will start to execute the message, such as activate the immune system (inflammation). These actions are what is commonly identified as a “disease”. So of course, exosomes would be responsible for the “disease” in the same way that viruses are.
However, this doesn’t proof that viruses, or exosomes, are contagious. In Koch’s postulates the inoculation or transmission from person to person is via manual intervention, by retrieving a sample in the source person and injecting or introducing the virus to the recipient person. The contagion theory has never been shown.
In Natural Hygiene we believe that people doesn’t catch viruses from other people, because we are protected by our skin, mucosa and immune system. Every person carries trillion of viruses inside. (11). There are always billions of symtomatic and asymptomatic persons in the world of flu, cold, SARS and all kind of viruses. If they were contagious, we would be continually experiencing pandemics. The only way to get a virus from another person, or other living being, is by injection.”
“The only way to get a virus from another person, or other living being, is by injection.”
…what complete and utter nonsense…and posted anonymously!!!
“…to quote from the link…”
Her’s the author (microbiologist Siouxsie Wiles) referred to in another link https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121881009/how-a-kiwi-media-company-became-the-world-health-organisations-latest-covid19-weapon
When an email arrived at Kiwi media outlet The Spinoff floating the idea of its Auckland-based team developing content for the World Health Organisation, no-one could believe at first that it was real.
Contributing artist Toby Morris had been working with microbiologist Siouxsie Wiles on a series of animations and illustrations explaining key concepts and messages around Covid-19. They had quickly drawn widespread attention – viewed by millions around the world, and picked up by governments in Argentina, Australia and Germany among others.
Somewhere along the way, they had also been seen by Diane Abad-Vergara, communications officer at the World Health Organisation (WHO).
“Increasingly people would forward me various pieces as great examples of clear analysis and explainers,” she said. “I got in touch with Duncan [Greive, founder of The Spinoff] and asked if they would be interested in doing some work to support WHO’s efforts.”
Bill’s never ending tentacles.
Finally someone did some research! You put it better than what I could. Thank you.
I will break my rule of not engaging in dialogue here just this once {my previous cafe dialogue with Anonymous regarding the beautiful poem of e.e. cummings, was —- rather special}.
I regard myself more as a postman, who delivers items which might be of value to the frequenters here; maybe it’s just interesting, maybe it’s informative, and maybe it just is “stuff” that needs spreading. Having left my package, I jump back on my bicycle and ride away. I wont enter into dialogue or discussion.
I can say two things. One is that I do understand the emotion you are expressing, and have expressed it myself a few times. I agree very much with your last sentence. Certainly there is a flaw here sadly, which I feel could do with some addressing.
However, the second thing I feel needs to be clarified for anyone interested is this: it is the argument about whether the “Covid-19 virus exists”.
There are those who seek to argue it does – without clarifying what they mean. Let me be more specific.
Any cellular level biologist with access to an electron microscope knows that among the cells of bodies, specifically mammalian, there are minute biochemical products, called exosomes. These are “membrane-bound extracellular vesicles (EVs) that are produced in the endosomal compartment of most eukaryotic cells.[1][2][3] The multivesicular body (MVB) is an endosome defined by intraluminal vesicles (ILVs) that bud inward into the endosomal lumen” Wikipedia.
That these exist is not doubted. However, quite why and what they do is still not understood {they were first observed only in 1983}.
However, the same degree of lack of knowing is found about viruses- where they come from, how they exist and so forth are not really understood. I am talking true Science here, not Political Tool Science.
One scientist – who has doubted the Covid issue and now I cannot find on a Google search – stated in a video I saw, that while working with cells producing exosomes he compared those particles to viruses and they were identical to the particles found in cases of measles, and said to be causative of measles. i.e. an exosome which was seen to be produced by a human cell line was identical to the Measles Virus.
There are now a growing group of molecular Biologists positing the theory that what we have long called “virus” is in fact an exosome; i.e. a natural product of the cell of a human [or other living being of course] which has been affected in some way that causes this minute particle body to be produced and that we have, in effect, been mistaking correlation for causation.
It’s been a common error for a while now – since the so-called “intelligent and educated” of the Empire + stopped being truly educated, or being able to think.
It’s very like the case of a friend of mine, who complained that his otherwise clever dog would keep barking at all the low flying aircraft overhead, with her typical “get away from here” bark. I had to ask “well, have any aircraft EVER landed in your property? No?. So she’s been validated, you see”. My cat hides behind my clothes hanging in the wardrobe during a thunder storm even when I’m there to comfort her. She has worked out by observation that whenever she hides, the noise doesn’t harm her. Ergo, that “truth” she deduces is that hiding is what you do, is clearly a fact, in order not to harmed by the big bangs.
It is possible that something so far unidentified assaulted the body, and the stressed cell response was to make this exosome. We, on seeing the exosome called it a name – virus – and said, person sick; .virus present, therefor virus causes sickness.
It’s been a massive logical flaw, because it eliminates the possibility, and therefor the perception which drives thought, that anything else could have cause the sickness. In fact there is even a name for this logical fallacy: “ Post hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin: ‘after this, therefore because of this’) states: “Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X.”
It is the job of the True Scientist to find the truth. This means you have to question the current, Accepted Narrative. This always makes many people unhappy, uncomfortable and irritated. And that’s just too bad in an era like this one, where ANY dispute of Accepted Narrative is met with a barrage of vitriol ,anger and rejection. Because we may just be overlooking a vital truth.
When people say “the virus doesn’t exist’ they dont mean that a discovered particle doesn’t exist. They mean it may well not be what is claimed – it may not be a causative agent, but a resultant part of a system. And that more and more evidence is beginning to point that way.
Again, I advise reading Liam Scheffs “Official Stories for a Culture in Need”.
Thank you giving me a chance to express a much needed clarification.
Great points Pamela, keep delivering your mail your comments are full of great info!
This may or may be the video you speak of seeing on the scientist who questions the cov/I’d issue. Clint Richardson has put together a nine hour documentary can’t recommend enough, even if you just watch bits and pieces. Clint always does a substantial amount of research with documentation in all his works.
https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/new-documentary-part-1-wagging-the-dog-the-story-behind-the-story-of-covid-19/
“Thank you giving me a chance to express a much needed clarification.”
Yet again, tremendously informative.
A first, cursory, search returns https://livingfullynourished.com/news/en/2020/04/23/0001/virus-and-exosomes
“The viruses / exosomes that are found in a person should come only from the same person, produced by their own cells. This is one of the reasons why vaccines are so dangerous, because we are directly injecting a message into a person, even if it has been “attenuated”, when there is no need. We are telling our body to combat a bacteria that doesn’t exist, or to have an immune response to something that doesn’t exist, or to heal a part of the body that has not been hurt. This is, I think, one of the reasons why allergies, hypersensitivities and auto-immune diseases rise; we are making the body to go crazy with misleading messages.”
Thanks Pamela you a warrior in the struggle against falsehood Thanks for bringing some sanity to this issue.
the so-called virus could as well be the result of a dis-ease in the body.
Maybe you read a piece from Dr. Lanka in Germany about exosomes! He was fighting against the measles vac, now is bringing our idiot Drosten to justice for unprofessional behaviour concerning sarscov! The same Drosten who made panic 2009 with swine flu in the same way as now with fake sarscov. Then he was terribly wrong(like the Empire’s Ferguson liar)…and is wrong now!
Then he was stopped by UN,through a experzose by Dr. Wodarg,Germany,who now again is acting against Drosten! Hopefully again successfull!
To follow developments of amecan election almost in real time but in French : https://www.dreuz.info/2020/11/26/elections-americaines-en-temps-reel/
And here for those who have time in English compilation of all the evidence.The false media consensus has begun its ebb. Soon there won’t even be a little backwash left on the beach.
https://hereistheevidence.com
Pamela, here’s that link again… Michael Hedges; I Carry Your Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwczXm64eRk
Lovely — thank you very much Dimitar.
“’Therefore, we examined the capacity of SARS-CoV-2 to infect and replicate in several common primate and human cell lines, including human adenocarcinoma cells (A549), human liver cells (HUH 7.0), and human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293T). In addition to Vero E6 and Vero CCL81 cells [monkey cells]. … Each cell line was inoculated at high multiplicity of infection and examined 24h post-infection. No CPE was observed in any of the cell lines except in Vero [monkey] cells, which grew to greater than 10 to the 7th power at 24 h post-infection. In contrast, HUH 7.0 and 293T showed only modest viral replication, and A549 cells [human cells] were incompatible with SARS CoV-2 infection’.”
“What does this language actually mean, and why is it the most shocking statement of all from the virology community? When virologists attempt to prove infection, they have three possible ‘hosts’ or models on which they can test…”
“The third method virologists use to prove infection and pathogenicity — the method they most rely on — is inoculation of solutions they say contain the virus onto a variety of tissue cultures. As I have pointed out many times, such inoculation has never been shown to kill (lyse) the tissue, unless the tissue is first starved and poisoned.”
“The shocking thing about the above [CDC journal] quote is that using their own methods, the virologists found that solutions containing SARS-CoV-2 — even in high amounts — were NOT, I repeat NOT, infective to any of the three human tissue cultures they tested. In plain English, this means they proved, on their terms, that this ‘new coronavirus’ is not infectious to human beings. It is ONLY infective to monkey kidney cells, and only then when you add two potent drugs (gentamicin and amphotericin), known to be toxic to kidneys, to the mix.”
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/26/the-missing-virus-answering-critics-objections/
In order to cultivate the virus in cells, you need to cultivate cells first. Healthy mammalian cells cannot be cultivated for long as they will age and cease to function after a while. There are few exceptions:
1. Cancer cells (i.e. adenocarcinoma cells) switched off their “get old and self-destruct after generation X” instructions and divide ad infinitum – killing its host in the process. With cancer cells it is unclear what else changed in these sick cells’ metabolism.
2. As liver and skin wear rapidly, liver cells and skin cells need continuous renewal.
3. Stem cells or embryonic cells (i.e. embryonic kidney cells) feature among the longest lifespan just because they are forever young (stem cells) or just newborn.
What did we learn then?
Neither liver nor newborn kidney cells are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2. It is known that SARS-CoV-2 docks to a specific enzyme (ACE2). No ACE2, no issue for two of the tested three cell types anyway.
Thank you for pointing this out. Didn’t even think of newborn cells and lack of AC2.
In Physics there was the conflict over the nature of light . Was it wave or particle? Then, grasping the true wisdom which underlies all of physical reality, those tasked with grappling with these questions came up with the conclusion: “It depends”.
OK. let us look at the academic conflict over the nature of disease way back in the 19th century…so long ago?
Was it due to terrain or agent? Those in control of the media and institutions of the time came up with the conclusion that it was agent….( of course a” weakened ” host, blah, blah and more blah). Louis Pasteur ruled supreme and those who wished to benefit financially from this orthodoxy moved in for “the kill” so to speak and truth began to solidify into the concrete of “Science”.
In my mobile home park of elderly people, folks are beginning to get the “thing-ie”. One woman is hospitalized with double pneumonia and a positive PCR test but another woman with a positive test and a ground glass X-ray result was sent home equipped with a pulse oximeter and given instructions to come to ER if O2 Saturation falls to 90. Both are the same age with similar co morbidities. Evidently the clinical presentation is different or perhaps the health insurance is the deciding factor. It is hard to tell since I live in a world of non-transparency which deals social death to truth-tellers.
In Winnipeg, one of many senior’s complexes had an outbreak……………’of something’. Staff and residents were tested……………..for ‘something’. Of 63 residents tested, 49 were positive………for something. Several residents were hospitalized, some have since died of…………..something, or at least some form of comorbidity.
Of the 49 positive tests, average age over 70, most with morbidities, 42 were asymtomatic for………..something, and did not know they had…………anything. They still live. Not every old person who gets……….something, dies.
I will add though, every old person, shaking my head as that includes me………….should follow the sound advice of the natural health practictioners that frequent the MFC……….take all your vitamins and suppliments, get lots of rest, and make sure your dog walks you several times a day……mine so kindly does that for me.
Cheers, M
“In Winnipeg, one of many senior’s complexes had an outbreak……………’of something’.”
Meanwhile,two Province’s right:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/montreal-nursing-homes-massacre/5713324
“We bring to the attention of our readers this important article by author William Walter Kay. The article raises two fundamental issues:
The first pertains to the deplorable heath care conditions (and the lack of personnel) affecting patients in Quebec’s nursing homes and geriatric wards which inevitably have an incidence on mortality. And that mortality has nothing to do with COVID-19.
The second relates to the outright manipulation of the statistics pertaining to the causes of death in the Province of Quebec. Patients are either diagnosed by a medical doctor, and/or “tested” for COV-19 with the standard antibody test plus respiratory tract specimen. Neither of these procedures prove unequivocally the incidence of COVID-19. Moreover, in many cases patients are arbitrarily categorized as COV-19 without a test or diagnosis.
Once the patient is categorized as COVID-19 (“presumed”, with or without tests) COVID-19 will be included as “a cause of death” (on the death certificate) irrespective of the actual health condition of the elderly patient who has passed away in the nursing home.
And then this mortality data (based on COVID-19 as a cause of death) will be tabulated and entered into the COVID-19 data banks of the Province of Quebec and Canada. And these data are then transmitted to the WHO, which will then integrate them into the global COVID-19 data bank.
In all probability, the majority of the terminally ill patients in the nursing homes did not die of COVID-19.
These recorded death statistics (arbitrarily assigned to COVID-19) will then be used to sustain the illusion that the coronavirus in Quebec is increasing at an alarming rate, thereby providing a justification to maintaining the lockdown and social distancing.
It’s a big lie. And the medical personnel and Quebec politicians know it. Yet it is not being reported by the media.”
I raised a question on here not too long ago.
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The Lovers
your mouth is sweet,
your tongue sweeter,
your words sweetest
Your love…whether unspoken…unwritten…sweetest of all expression and being..
The reek of ambition and jealousy are very strong on this site today. Jabs of it are very powerful and destructive. In the name of the true gentleness and beauty of the header image, not those with good intentions, nor those who confront the opinions of other’s they think false or worthy of criticism, but all other’s, please respect and resist.
opinions are
poor markers of character
for poor men, mental
passions are poor substitutes
for true Soul passion
If you read Straight-Bat’s long and very interesting article on India you might enjoy this read as well
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-opinion-india-and-modi-are-losing-china-battle/
I got the link from https://www.unz.com/news/ .
“If India stops turning inward and embraces an open, transparent partnership with global investors, hundreds of millions more would get a shot at prosperity. A stagnant world economy could tap a new source of future demand. The West might win a strong and reliable security partner in Asia. The ’90s optimism will renew itself.”
And of course this article comes one day after 250 million Indian workers strike & protest, with no mention of the ongoing event. Western corporatist propaganda–but it’s Bloomberg, no surprise.
Today in my morning FB from Mir y Russia :
Hello there!
I Am A Russian Occupier.
This is my profession.
This has happened historically.
I once occupied Siberia ;
Now they produce oil, gas, aluminum and many other useful things.
Now there are cities with kindergartens and hospitals.
Now you can’t sell women for a bundle of sable skins there – as it was before the Russians.
I occupied the Baltic States ;
I built up her farms with factories and power plants.
The Baltic States made high-end radio equipment and cars.
Famous for perfumes and balms.
I was asked to leave.
Now they produce sprats there, and part of the population cleans toilets in Europe.
I occupied Central Asia;
I built canals, factories, spaceports, hospitals, and stadiums in the barren steppes.
They built space rockets and planes, developed industry, and grew wheat and cotton for the entire country.
I was asked to leave.
Now they are developing American loans and growing cannabis, and part of the population has left to work on the construction sites of the former occupiers.
I occupied the Ukraine ;
Together with the Ukrainians, I built aircraft engines, ships, tanks and cars.
I was asked to leave.
Now they are destroying everything that remains of the occupier.
At the same time, nothing new is being built there, except for endless Maidans and dictatorships
Yes, I am an Occupier!
And I’m tired of apologizing for it…
They say I’m “an occupier by birthright”.
They say I’m an aggressor and a bloodthirsty freak.
Be afraid!
But It was I who endured the atrocities of the Polish interventionists during the time of the Troubles. And how did their intervention end?
It was I who burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon. And how did Napoleon end up?
I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, knowing that the Nazis would not be deterred. Where are those Nazis now? Where is their damned Hitler?
They came to my house by all and Sundry.
Turks, English, poles, Germans, French.
There was enough land for everyone-2.5 meters each!
I don’t want your hypocritical “freedom”.
I don’t need your rotten democracy.
Everything you call Western values is alien to me.
I have other interests!
I politely warn you for the last time: don’t run into it!
I build peace, I love peace, —– but I can fight better than anyone!
Sincerely, Russian Occupier.
By Anna Gaidarova
I have slightly edited the translation, such as correcting a couple of prepositions, and splitting into paragraphs, to make it more amenable to English understanding.
I think it’s a great piece of poetry, summing up so much in so few, accurate words, which is what poetry does { as Samuel Coleridge Taylor said “the best words in the best order”} .
My Sunday morning contribution.
Thanks for this Pamela, great words with human feelings.
Gift to you Pamela from Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFlveRou7Es
Hi Pamela
Please keep delivering your packages.
This one is a gem.
3.Burning Bush
There is a fire burning in the heart of creation
And attainment to its presence is a lover’s boon.
“We wish to speak with thee!” I said
Those flaming words hurling you headlong into ecstasy.
Three days passed and I approached again.
You were immovable, incendiary, immolated;
A fiery feast of heartfelt love.
Am I still that youth
Or ancient of days?
4.Jump
When I say jump you’re on the way up asking “how high?”
You’re out the gate and on the way
Before apprehending my command
And that’s the crux of the matter.
You’re a true believer in love
If ever I knew one.
5. Words
My words are unsettling.
They shake me and mine.
I know they’re true and their truth
Impinges, impels, completes;
Sets in motion things and events.
Many seem to be set aflame thereby.
I was.
Brother Blue Iconoclast
Beautiful poems Brother Blue Iconoclast, thank you for sharing them and please continue to be here.
thank you for being so kind.
I do not know why I feel the desire to write this here or if it will be published. But I want to say to anyone who cares to read here, from this day onward I declare myself to be Orthodox and try and seek unity with the true eternal entity that bought us into this world in Theosis.
If anyone else has been moved to become Orthodox from a agnostic backgroud can they explain what experiance they had that stimulated it? For me i was laying in bed after being very ill with food poisoning, and while drowsy I started listening to music online, and this song SlaviteGospoda by a serbian choir or something came up, and i was filled with a rising feeling of joy that even if I were to die, it was not to be feared, and then I decided to stop laboring for gold in this world and look for this feeling to come again.
Remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The social consciousness is the great leveller, so it’s best to apply discrimation when speaking about your inner experiences, or risk losing them. May the blessings be!
That song is really beautiful and inspiring, going deep inside, no wonder that you were taken with it. You have my deep respect for your decision, God bless you my friend.
Perhaps this is the music? Indeed music for the soul.
Spasi, Gospodi, Iyudi Tvoya (O Lord, Save Thy People)
The Slavyanka Men’s Chorus singing this popular Russian Orthodox Church hymn, probably most recognizable as the opening theme of Tchaikovsky’s “1812 Overture.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUWVhBnMQG0
Slavite Gospoda – Psalam 136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnGO-1dK_I
Kent
Thank you for sharing your experience of awakening. There are messages for us in so many places. May you find a community who share a love God.
k
3rd Annual M’s ( the mayhem and mendacity awards)
First Prize to the 1% of the 1%
For their engineering of the aggravated eugenic assault on the whole of humanity!!! The depth, the sweep the pure effrontery of it all makes it a 10 of 10 in the sweepstakes of H-ll. Whole nations rush over the cliff of self destruction and economic ruin . In addition the cooperation to create the dreaded “thing-ie” was masterful in its level of treachery and greed. !!!!! Hear the thunderous applause from the minions of evil.
2nd Prize : To Donald Trump and the Deep State
For murder most foul of the former and the pure gall of publicly acting appalled of the latter. The level of hypocrisy of the Deep State deserves an honorable mention to the public gloating of Donald Trump over the charred remains of Soleimani and his entourage which nonetheless still gains full 2nd prize honors. Does one hear the shouted “Bravo” from the depths?
3rd Prize: to the Corporate Media of the West.
Honorable mention to the techno-fascist accessories to the murder of Truth. Their joint efforts to effect a four year long, slow motion coup against the people, the legal traditions and all that is good in a country is truly breathtaking. Although its being only the 3rd prize….the Satan’s children stand in silent awe of the spectacle of mass spiritual suicide lead by those who pride themselves for their “learning and intelligence”. Ahhh, the “best of the best”—special place awaits for prideful ones.
sowing death,
destruction and disaster;
the demons among us
congratulating themselves
on a job well done!
Why is Moon of Alabama not covering fraud?
Why is he talking about Bidens choices?
Just like there’s nothing to talk about….why?
With total honors to JJ. I repost his awesome Fall poem….when you read it….just tune your ear and listen.
This Autumn Day
Hold up my hand to a lighter autumn sunshine not golden
but a refined color platinum trying to match up with silver
moon.
Some pale warmth as todays white frost retreats and sinks
into the ground.
Seems like even the trees are chattering with the rustling restless flocks
of starlings fluttering within
Echoing the sound of soft brittle fragile last leaves gently deciding to
release and drift down like first snowflakes.
Last of the geese going over and winging sounds of their flight,
feathers a part of this symphony and robin returns for shelter.
I hear a scrabble in the fallen leaves and a patter on the path.
Repairing the garden and snuggling it down.last harvest is over
Caring that friends are set for winter separateness
Wondering
What color today will be the sunset?
Sorry JJ for missing it earlier, wonderful poem indeed, you should post more of them.
Ta for thoughts….not written anything since. Very glad to.see you here.
San Antonio,TX celebrating thanksgiving in the failed state that is America; miles and miles of vehicles in line to get to a food bank. Jimmy Dore calls them poverty traffic jams.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2020/11/24/pandemic-and-food-crisis-highlight-failure-of-capitalism/
“There are no magic formulas …”
Noam Chomsky: Breaking the Ignorance: The richest and most powerful among us are the ones who are trying to drive the society to destruction (2:18) https://youtu.be/b_TDjbIX6TA
To continue the theme, a blast from the past: http://scott.london/reviews/lasch.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efFuRmOrDxE&feature=emb_logo
Revolt from the People.
Continuing Terenam 13’s theme,
– and the Goebbels prize goes to – the vaccine producers / pushers.
People are desperate to get back to some kind of normal life and are expecting a vaccine to come to their rescue. Would they be so keen if they understood the following :
1. actual prevention of the disease is not a criterion of the vaccine trials,
2. the vaccine will not prevent the spread of the disease,
3. the vaccines will not cure the disease,
4. the vaccines will not prevent hospitalisation,
5. the vaccines will not prevent deaths,
6. reduction of symptoms alone is deemed a success,
7. 3 of the vaccine protocols do not even require a reduction of serious disease – only that there is a reduction
of moderate symptoms in those vaccinated as compared to those unvaccinated.
The criteria for these trials to be declared successful are so minimal as to be essentially fraudulent. Why then risk a vaccine for so little potential benefit ? Best you don’t bother your head about the details – roll up roll up, get your vaccines here.
Forbes has reported on these trials :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/09/23/covid-19-vaccine-protocols-reveal-that-trials-are-designed-to-succeed/?sh=348653a65247
and Mike Whitney discusses them here :
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/heres-why-you-should-skip-the-covid-vaccine/
Sanded
Do you actually understand the concept of vaccines?
1. Of bloody course prevention of disease is a criterion. That is what efficacy is all about. The whole idea is that you compare the symptoms and disease course of two groupd one vaccinated the other not. Now the usual result of an efficient vaccine is that those who were vaccinated may contract the disease but the negative effects will be much less than for those not vaccinated. The principle is that because the immune system has already met the virus they will be ready and waiting for the next time an infection hits. a bit like a missile shield really. So the be effective a vaccine must significantly reduce the severity of infection not whether or not you get the disease.
2. A vaccine will reduce spread of diseases in most cases because it should if useful reduce the duration of the disease and the viral load. If it does not do this it will not be rated as very effective. The second obvious way a vaccine works is by ensuring that there are very dew people around who can catch the disease it cannot spread so fast. This is the herd immunity concept.
3. No of course not. Silly point
4. If a vaccine does not significantly reduce the rate of hospitalisation and other severe effects including death, then OBVIOUSLY it is not an effective vaccine. This is another silly point. All this is saying is that some vaccines do not work. Fine but no rational health agency will buy such rubbish. I prefer any car I buy to actually be drivable.
5. Same as above. If it does not reduce deaths it is NOT a vaccine
6. Yes of course. the aim is to prevent people getting very sick and dying. If a vaccine results in most people getting a runny nose and a headache for three days whereas for those unvaccinated it may mean two weeks of high fever and say 20% in hospital and 5% dead, then of course it is working.
7. Now when it comes to the protocols you ARE on stronger ground. This is where the relative value of a vaccine stops being a medical/scientific issue but rather one of political and commercial interests.
Now Mike Whitney is a great economic journalist but as a scientist he is rubbish.
“A vaccine will reduce spread of diseases in most cases because it should if useful reduce the duration of the disease and the viral load”
Only if, like one of the other WHO representative’s referred to earlier in this Cafe (Siouxsie Wiles), you assume that virus are causative of the disease that they are asserted, by some, to be.
https://hms.harvard.edu/magazine/pandemic/grip-disease
“Rosenau was prominent in the effort to find an answer. He had considered the virus hypothesis in the past, during an earlier iteration of influenza that may have been a “herald” event for the 1918 pandemic. As early as January 1916, after a new strain of flu had begun to sharply increase death rates in the United States, Rosenau had organized a symposium to explore the idea that the illness might be viral in origin. No definitive answer was agreed upon, but at the height of the second wave, he renewed his interest in the topic.
Under the auspices of the U.S. Public Health Service and the Navy, Rosenau and his colleagues, in an effort to “determine the mode of spread of influenza,” tried to infect military volunteers with Pfeiffer’s bacillus at a makeshift infirmary on Gallops Island in Boston Harbor. Though human experiments were then seen as acceptable, in a paper later published in JAMA, Rosenau noted that the team “proceeded rather cautiously at first by administering a pure culture” of the bacterium.
When the “trials proved negative,” he wrote, “we became bolder.” The scientists gave each of the volunteers “a very large quantity of a mixture of thirteen different strains of the Pfeiffer bacillus, some of them obtained recently from the lungs at necropsy.” They also inoculated the men with specimens taken from the throats and noses of influenza patients and later with the patients’ blood. Still no symptoms, so next the volunteers shook hands with, talked with, and were coughed on by the actively ill. They remained healthy.
“We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person,” Rosenau wrote. “Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.””
Watcher,
well, you are right, I am not a scientist either. Is it not a fair point to say that people expect to be made safe by taking the vaccine – not just have reduced symptoms ? The trials are designed to succeed – as described n the Forbes article – so very small +ve effects are deemed good enough – that is not what people are hoping for from a vaccine.
From virologist Marc Wathelet’s letter to the Belgian health authorities posted by Paul Craig Roberts :
“…..I remind you that none of the vaccines in development are designed to induce mucosal immunity, the only kind of vaccine that is potentially sterilizing, and therefore likely to have an effect on the transmission of the virus.
The criteria for evaluating these candidate vaccines are limited to a reduction in symptoms but not a reduction in deaths or an effect on virus transmission: the bar is set very low to ensure their approval. The reduction of symptoms, if achieved without serious side effects, is certainly desirable, but it is very likely to promote the transmission of the virus because it is the appearance of symptoms that prompts the change in individual behaviour that can limit transmission….”
Thanks for your explanations. I am trying my best to understand.
Election Bombshell
the US Constitution Goes to Court
https://www.unz.com/article/election-bomb-shell-the-us-constitution-goes-to-court-or/
“Petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene Pa. Const. Article VII Section 14 as the plain language of that constitutional provision is at odds with the mail-in provisions of Act 77.”
– PA Judge Patricia McCullough
If you recall, I was never worried about the fraud of millions of stolen and switched votes being defeated, turned back….invalidated for Biden…..ever.
The only worry is the natural laziness of a materialist society resting on its laurels and allowing its near destruction to recur……again…..and soon, at that.
To prevent that you need to flush the imperial virus out with the neocons utterly and completely and….. THEN….a cultural moral improvement now made possible by the crushing edge of the Red Landslide That Will Soon BE Proven. the far too large margin that overwhelmed The Big Steal by too big of a Landslide to be “credibly” stolen and rammed down Deplorable throats……….. can be credited to remarkable political maturation of black and Hispanic American citizens who freed themselves from Deep State captivity in the largest percentages…… in half a century at least.
People who remain irretrievably disgusted with Trump, like spoiled children, because it was not even possible for him to do what they wanted (fire more than 1 neocon every 2-3 months) during term # 1 ought to allow a little time…at least some weeks….maybe 2-4 months, before getting back to raging again…in harmony…. in the Orange Man Bad International Cry Baby Choir..
Because signs are that the Orange Wrecking BALL…..WILL wreck the Great Controlla Virus Reset of 2020-2021…..and probably force the Malthusian Genocidalist Swine to go back to the Drawing Board and switch the 3 in Agenda 2030 to a 4 or a 5.
They play the Long Game and the essence of their agenda for modern times is at least a century old, already. They have had several postponements of their bloody AGENDA1.0 …2.0…….3.0
They try to outlast the the attention spans of the societies they intend to cull.
But tonight it’s time to shift gears and go way, way back in time, despite my lingering doubts after a 3 hour movie…..about the Global Impact of Egyptian Civilization asserted in stunning and surprising boldness that may surprise, shock, offend, inspire…or all of the above…simultaneously……!!!!
The Movie Great Pyramid K 2019 – Director Fehmi Krasniqi
414,139 views•Premiered Nov 1, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4
…….which asserts that the Egyptians of some few millenia BC were a deep ebony in skin color ,,,,,rather than brown skinned like the ones I know of among those masses in Egypt I saw in the 1950s or from Egypt living in California today.
That epidermis detail is not that important….except that the movie just might shock a BLM rioter or two into swelling with awe and pride…..rather than rage and victimhood
And these are the kinds of changes needed to fill the American Cultural void of every color of American.
It won’t hurt too many others either……anywhere in the world…except MAYBE our Paul Pavel….because its amazingly “far out” (But NO aliens! NONE!) technological conclusions……are WAY different than his “LIfting Stones” rack and pinion study of how the Great Pyramids were built.
That may be rough on him.
But at least there might be some fellowship between our Paul Pavel and Great Pyramid K 2019 Director Fehmi Krasniqithe in terms of the Egyptian Archeological “Authorities” refusal to consider EITHER “proof” …or “unproven hypothesis” as the authorities may have it!
“Conspiracy Theorists!”
Baseless Claims of Election Fraud. You know the drill.
ALSO: This this is a long shot….that may shoot down Great Pyramid K 2019 definitively from an Australian perspective……or be either inspiring or deeply troubling confirmation of Fehmi Krasniqithe …..because near the end ….the astonishing claim is made……that the Egyptians brought their advanced mathematics, geometry, astronomy and human formed by “pouring” rock…even granite…and even harder stone…..as in concrete (rather than cutting) pyramid and temple building tech,,,,everywhere in the world…..AND (true or false?? Amazing discovery or archeological quackery???) Egyptians are said to have visited the East Coast of Australia …..(are the inscriptions real or fake???) and named Khufu and his architect, if memory serves….
At 3 hours 2 minutes 30 seconds https://youtu.be/KMAtkjy_YK4?t=10905
“Over the years, the Egyptians circumnavigated the world several times….”
WHOA!…now this will either intensely annoy…or inspire y’all Down Under…just 20 seconds later:
“Sometimes accidents occur. Their boats ran aground at Gosford, Australia”
If Paul or ANY of you down under can get over to Gosford…..supposed evidence of the Ancient Egyptian Mariners….and Pyramid Builders….. IS THERE.
Interviewer asks Yousef Awyan and Mohamed Ibrahim of their assessment of the Gosford Glyphs, after their conclusion of inspecting them:
“So, now, I think an important question would be: Do you think the Gosford Glyphs represent Egyptian Heiroglyphs??”
Egyptologist and Tour Guide Ibrahim:
“Yes. From the first look I felt it….we felt it…..Yousef and I both of us reached the same result, without contacting each other for more than 2 weeks, so definitely, it is ancient Egyptian writings.”
Come on, Man! You gotta be pullin’ my leg hairs!
What say those writings according to these bold Egyptians discoverors in Australia …or quacks …as the case may be??
“The names of Khufu, his father Sneferu, and his son Djedefre…..appear in these hieroglyphs.
Colyn Hayter, independent Australian researcher, Australia, does the translation:
“Sneferu came around (two boats…a line depicting voyage) here ( Australia) twice….child of Ra (Sun God) Ruler of Egypt…”
I’m sorry…this is wilder than than those Nibiru Cats…Enki and Enlil…sons of Annu.
The Annunaki and all that Zacharia Sitchin stuff, ya know??
I’m also highly offended, Paul. I have Sitchin’s 7 volume The Complete Earth Chronicles and Krasnigi debunks my whole collection, (which at least was very fun to read…..like science fiction if FAR from fact….lol) accusing Sitchin of “forging” some other writings on some wall in Egypt early on in the movie.
“The pot calling (the now 1 decade deceased….1920-2010) …. Sitchin’s kettle ….. black???
Some of The Great Pyramid 2019 is remarkably compelling. Other parts???
I have my deep reservations. The proofs vary considerably in quality of convincingness, near as I can tell. Some quite impressive..(the chambers and tunnels construction especially…very early in the movie…Mystery Solved…is the first impression!).some maybe a wee bit …..flaky???
YOU decide!
Bro … The Gosford Glyphs …
David Coltheart visits the “Kariong Egyptoid” site near Sydney, Australia …
Alan Dash, a surveyor with the Gosford City Council between 1968 and 1993, first noticed the carvings about 1975. Thoroughly familiar with the area, he revisited the site several times over the next 5 years, each time observing that more and more carvings appeared on the rock face. He considered the engravings the work of an irresponsible vandal.
Neil Martin himself found the man responsible. “In 1984 1 was in the area helping to put out a fire”, he told me. “As I came around the base of the hill, I could hear a noise like someone chipping stone. I walked over to the cleft and found an old Yugoslavian man, chipping the stone with a Sidchrome cold chisel. Because this was national park property, I confiscated the chisel and the man left. Because he was mentally handicapped, we took no further action, but I later gave the chisel to the local historical society. We never saw the old man again.”
Sourced from …
https://donsmaps.com/hoax.html
(Sidchrome is an Australian tool brand-name …
“Sidchrome – You Canna Hand a Man a Grander Spanner”)
The idea that Tutmania of the last century or two could easily lead to mass publishing of Egyptian writing forms that someone from Sydney could then take into their head to carve on a rock face is an entirely plausible explanation I hadn’t considered.
Although unrecorded or poorly, and lost recorded accounts of voyages thousands of years ago seem totally possible, that account near Gosford struck me as considerably “sketchier” than FAR more plausible notions in the film…that can’t be faked or denied as real (although the attribution DIRECTLY from Egyptians could be inaccurate??) :
For example, the spread of the monument and pyramid building mathematics, geometry, astronomy…and especially the Chemistry of man-not nature-cemented forms of “rock” blocks (one of the films more startling and bold conclusions!) to the Americas, India, Angor Wat etc etc.
A mentally handicapped man, especially one without books on Egyptology on site, to refer to (Neil’s account only mentions a chisel….not reference guides!) is unlikely to be capable of rendering glyphs that would impress two egyptologists…in the movie…Youseff and Mahamed… .unless, of course, their ambitions and enthusiasm for fame and the jealous admiration of others in the field (scorn is more likely…..LOL) carried away their better judgment and more sober imaginations went out of their own control.
But yes, the Gosford glyphs could conceivably just be prank glyph “graffiti” both ancient and modern…or all modern….all fake or partly genuine/partly fake. …partly Egyptian (but I doubt it….Where is the monumental evidence in Australia?? ) AND The idea that a king of course would undertake a long sea voyage seems absurd….so a representative of Sneferu seems a million times more plausible as a voyager than “Sneferu.has come here twice.” come on!…just as Carlos, King of Spain had Cortez or Francisco Pizzarro using his name..and authority………..but Carlos wasn’t going ANYwhere: He was sending others in his name.
But anyway, while I love the beautiful philosophy the movie ends with…………. there are other doubts as to some conclusions much more than others (A few seem VERY strong!)
For example: The Easter Islands heads might be a lot easier to mold and pour than carve, and transport…..but the numerology of PI……3.14 Kilometers from any old part of the coast to a nondescript location in the middle of Easter Island…..seemed weak, weak, WEAK “beyond belief”….and left me shaking my head…..like WHAT????
But there’s a lot else there. From very slick and convincing to…..causing much more doubt than certainty….in the instances cited…and some more:
Those LENSES concentrating the sun’s rays….melting rock??? That seems extremely unlikely compared to ancient chemistry and concrete techniques.
But what do I know?
Check it out.
“But what do I know?”
“Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think”. – Werner Heisenberg
Cheers
T
“Because signs are that the Orange Wrecking BALL…..WILL wreck the Great Controlla Virus Reset of 2020-2021”
Do you think he’s going to cancel Operation Warp Speed and demand the $Billions he’s given away back from Pfizer and the rest of BigPharma.
No, I don’t think whatever he does with Pfizer in the short term is that determinant of his real, larger intentions in terms of wrecking the Reset of his Globalist Enemies……versus his own version of what I suspect will be a far, far preferable “reset” through the managed bankruptcy ….and reorganization of parts of the “portfolios” of those those enemies…that have any redeeming value for society.
Including considerable confiscation of vast fortunes gained through Crimes Against Humanity….and in the Case of Big Pharma and Big Tech….proven .sedition and treason……….. breaking them up..
Meanwhile on a more positive and less punitive flank…..the digital one….and intention therein let’s put some calculation to work there, starting with this:
https://www.martingeddes.com/the-digital-coup-and-the-great-exposure/
Now THAT could be “off the charts” beneficial to the upside for Sandy from Edinburgh and other alert persons on the microcosmic level…..but the Macrocosm of Human Society and its Evolution ………..comes first…..the personal, the fleeting….the more ephemeral ………….as a mere by product of a Greater Societal Good..
A couple of excerpts to whet the appetite for Victory and Justice amongst any budding Warrior Angels here:
Geddes says,
“I get to watch various tech industry email discussion lists and WhatsApp groups. These are overwhelmingly dominated by Biden voters. They are currently in a bubble disconnected from the reality of events past and present. This bubble is about to burst. Many of their political idols will be executed for treason, or spend life in prison for sedition. There is wisdom in advice not to worship idols.”
and:
“You have been hoodwinked by a system of social engineering that was covertly established, mainly after the 1963 de facto coup following the assassination of President Kennedy, and installation of a permanent criminal shadow government.”
“No, I don’t think whatever he does with Pfizer in the short term is that determinant of his real, larger intentions in terms of wrecking the Reset of his Globalist Enemies”
The Pfizer (and Astrazeneca) vaccines are forecast to start rolling out in England tomorrow (1st Dec).
JudasDoctor’s incentive at £25 per double dose and minimum of 975 per week to ensure government payment:https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/covid-19/gp-practices/covid-19-vaccination-programme
With every surgery in the land (6800) jumping on the bandwagon tens of millions of jabs will occur in a few weeks.
With all sorts of nasties in the vaccine’s (an outsourced AI database just started operation to record the “HIGH VOLUME” of “ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED%3ANOTICE%3A506291-2020%3ATEXT%3AEN%3AHTML&src=0&fbclid=IwAR2CF1YylyNNGyF9yw1P0shDxPSiXINBV5q2KDySUQKqZLCArdze2td8Y3k), how long do you imagine DJT considers “short-term” to be before he starts to wreck the people that will already have wrecked tens/hundreds/billions of people globally, at least partially by his own Operation Warp Speed and his funding of it:
https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html
?
Ra 1 and 2 Expidetions, show that Egyptians sailed to the Americas, why not Austrailia also? And anywhere else for that matter. Have boat, will travel, anywhere and everywhere…………..a feat humans have been doing for millions of years………while others swung from trees……3000BC the Chinese sailed to the Americas, they have records of the trip.
I believe the dark skinned Egyptians you mention are likely Nubians, they hail from the heart of the Nile and settled it all the way to Alexandria.
Cheers, M
I know we’ve all just returned from tanksgiving, but their are some troubling signs in the years ahead, b/c the bills are coming due in 21 and there are some tanks on the horizon.
Tanks like the oil industry, the health care industry tanks, the appliance industry tanks, and possibly the stock market tanks, all these industry’s are strained to the max as the bills are scheduled to arrive on time and Casey drives toward the cliff again.
Troubling signs indeed.
Magnum opus credo
Jimi, Blue, and God
6. Will
Sincere, innocent, innately apprehending
The light of faith
Spontaneously living the life
“Wise as a serpent and
Harmless as a dove” was he.
We as Albion’s distant child
A people of the book
Remember beloved Will.
7. Last Day
The “last day” is always the
Last day of some one person.
The almost undetectable knock on
Ones heart’s door—
The realization that “yes it’s true!”
The sinking of one’s soul over the horizon
And the descent into the gloom of the abyss.
One sees the children of God
Dancing, singing,stars in their hair
And on their cheeks, so close,
Yet so far.
Have mercy on us most high!
You know I don’t care for the bottomless pit!
8. The Pit
I don’t like the pit
But it helped me see the light .
The sinking of one’s soul over
The horizon of one’s life
On a particular day,
A real physical day,
Of a real physical person,
Human, man—
Slipping beneath the waves,
A sinking, setting sun.
Apprehending eternity like that—-
A great big whack to the heart—
You realize “I’m alone!”
And the truth of the saying
“God was alone”
Strikes with the clearness
Of a bell.
Brother Blue Iconoclast
I would like to leave this link with it’s news with cafe-istas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5vvzb9nvec
It’s a Duran broadcast and I have to say now, I have, in the main, little time for the opinions of Mercouris. However, in my searches for this Open Letter to Soros from Hungary and Poland, everywhere I went had been deleted, and banned by YouTube, including the original broadcast by Hungary’s Viktor Orban.
I can only find details of it on Duran; and as they say, it is, actually, very important. As Mercouris says, watch for more “Regime Change”. Not like Ukraine maybe, but in a form we can recognise.
However, its also a beacon of hope – for the nations of the world are beginning to stand up and refuse to be bullied by the ersatz “Liberal Empire”.
Another small nation President standing up to the Empire: In this short clip of a longer video of the entire interview, President of Azerbaijan puts an arrogant accusing BBC journalist right back in her box.
Watch for the sheer pleasure you’ll get from it :-)
https://yandex.ru/video/preview?text=BBC%20interviews%20Aliyev%20who%20talks%20of%20Assange&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1606758538080756-31842658346850670200163-production-app-host-man-web-yp-100&wiz_type=vital&filmId=8883379407153720001
Incidentally, ignore the Russian language headers – President Aliyev speaks very clear, good English!!
Priceless !! She brought it up herself after all with her questions about a free media…
As the late Bill Blum used to say: ‘hypocrisy of this magnitude is not meant to be criticized but respected’
More and more hints are percolating into the media about the danger of a cyber attack. The first link below is from James Corbett who tracks some of remarks from politicians over the recent years. The second link contains clips from Klaus Slob and cohorts who held an event in July 2020 that simulated a cyber attack. Quote “It would hit faster and harder than Covid and make the pandemic seem like a minor event.” Sounds like a plan.
k
https://www.minds.com/CorbettReport/blog/when-false-flags-go-virtual-1179969088558407680
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cp190eDFltU/
Thanks K, there’s quite a no. of problems with Klaus:
1. he’s an honorary professor of the University of Geneva, the Ben-Gurion University of Israel and the China Foreign Affairs University
2. he’s a former member of the Bilderberg Steering Committee “Former Steering Committee Members”. bilderbergmeetings.org
https://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/background/steering-committee/former-steering-committee-members
3. In 2004, Schwab set up a new foundation, The Forum of Young Global Leaders, using the US$1 million prize money from the Dan David Prize he received from Israel
Cheers
toxic people
@Tyson
Re The Forum of Young Global Leaders.
Names I recognised from this “forum” include
Macron
Tulsi Gabbard
Pete Butigeig…
How fortuitous that these and others of this group have risen to prominence.
Confirming that nothing is as it seems.
And there are few “accidents”
Dmitry Orlov has posted a new article on is blog site and Patreon, in which he asks – and answers – the question “Are Americans Rational?”.
He kicks of with some data he got from Paul Craig Roberts. Given it’s source – I’d be prepared to accept it.
It’s this.
Just this morning I got a missive from Paul Craig Roberts containing the following bullet points:
• Joe Biden’s Twitter account has 20 million followers. Trump’s Twitter account has 88.8 million followers.
• Joe Biden’s Facebook account has 7.78 million followers. Trump’s Facebook account has 34.72 million followers. How likely is it that a person with four to five times the following of his rival lost the election?
• Joe Biden, declared by the biased presstitutes to be president by landslide, gave a Thanksgiving Day message and only 1,000 people watched his live statement. Where is the enthusiasm?
Trump’s campaign appearances were heavily attended and that Biden’s were avoided. Somehow a candidate who could not draw supporters to his campaign appearances won the presidency.
• Despite Biden’s total failure to animate voters during the presidential campaign, he received 15 million more votes than Barack Obama did in his 2012 re-election.
• Biden won despite under-performing Hillary Clinton’s 2016 vote in every urban US county, but outperformed Clinton in Democrat-controlled Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philadelphia, the precise cities where the most obvious and most blatant electoral fraud was committed.
• Biden won despite receiving a record low share of the Democrat primary vote compared to Trump’s share of the Republican primary vote.
• Biden won despite Trump bettering his 2016 vote by ten million votes and Trump’s record support from minority voters.
• Biden won despite losing the bellwether counties that have always predicted the election outcome and the bellwether states of Ohio and Florida.
• Biden won in Georgia, a completely red state with a red governor and legislature both House and Senate. Somehow a red state voted for a blue president.
• Biden won despite the Democrats losing representation in the House.
• In Pennsylvania 47 memory cards containing more than 50,000 votes are missing.
• Pennsylvania 1.8 million ballots were mailed out to voters, but 2.5 million mail-in ballots were counted.
Worth Reading the rest of the article – and Orlov’s excellent summing of where America stands now.
But those points PCR made are valid, are known by most of the nation – and yet they sit in sullen silence while a crazy system puts a person with dementia in the top post, thus validated firmly the widely held conviction, that it doesn’t matter who sits there after all.
Yes I saw that one Pamela. Another gem by Orlov.
In the meantime, back here in Canada:
‘To know who rules over you find out who you are not allowed to criticize’
Canadian Court forbids dissident Arthur Topham from uttering the word ‘Jew’ for the next 3 years
As the result of political pressure brought to bear by B’nai Brith — an international Jewish supremacist group — Arthur Topham, a Canadian dissident who was convicted of an online ‘hate crime’, now faces strict new probationary rules on his public expression concerning Jews after allegedly breaching his sentencing conditions:
Arthur Topham, who ran a publication from his rural home near the central Interior city of Quesnel, was convicted in 2015 of communicating online statements that wilfully promoted hatred against Jewish people.
As part of his sentence, Topham was forbidden from publishing or publicly posting information about “persons of Jewish religion or ethnic origin.”
But in October, a provincial court judge ruled Topham had breached that condition by creating new posts throughout 2018.
Late last week, the judge sentenced Topham to a 30-day conditional sentence and three years probation for the breach, placing strict new conditions on Topham’s public posts.
For the next three years, Topham is forbidden from publishing or printing publicly any reference to or information about the Talmud, Zionism, Israel, and the Jewish religion, ethnicity or people.
Topham is also forbidden from publicly posting the names of people he knows to be of Jewish origin.
According to court documents, he will still be allowed to publicly name his wife and her family, but not to mention their ethnicity or origin. During his original trial, Topham told the court his wife is Jewish.
In addition to the terms of his three-year probation, Topham will serve a 30-day conditional sentence, with a nightly curfew and a requirement to remain in B.C. He’s also prohibited from having weapons, liquor, or alcohol.
“Justice has been served,” said Ran Ukashi, National Director with B’nai Brith, a Jewish advocacy group that’s been closely following the case.
“It serves as a deterrent for others, to realize there are consequences, there’s a price to pay,” said Ukashi.
“There are limits to … free speech and promoting hatred against identifiable groups is not on,” he said.”This person has been given opportunity after opportunity to not behave this way.”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-man-faces-strict-conditions-after-breaching-sentence-for-anti-semitic-hate-crimes-1.5812976
Btw. Gilad Atzmon travelled to BC at the original trial in 2015, to witness in Topham’s defence.
Canadian Rountable the trial of Arthur Topham;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHooY_aI0_w&feature=youtu.be
Pamela,
PCR has decided, ” The proof is in – the election was stolen. ” :
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/30/the-proof-is-in-the-election-was-stolen/
He concludes that if the stolen election stands – America Falls – never to be restored to government by the people, ( did that ever really exist ? ). He doesn’t offer any suggestions on how to stop the coup.
I note in a post by Bro above he quotes someone called Geddes claiming that people are about to be executed and imprisoned for life. Who ? Brennan, Comey, Biden ? I can’t imagine it. I could see some lowly election workers being scapegoated, and backroom deals done but I really can’t imagine any significant figures coming to grief. Not least because so many were involved in the faked Russia collusion canard, have doubled down ever since and now a stolen election too.
How many would have to be ” executed…spend life in prison.. ” ? I just can’t see it. Perhaps it’s just my above described ” microcosmic level ” brain that , like Scottie’s engines, just ” can’t take it “.
Really appreciate your various posts above Pamela,
Thanks, Sand :-)
Just in from Dmitry Orlov:
stumbled across something that, if true, would be very interesting. You be the judge.
Barack Obama, a former President of the US, was arrested on Nov. 28, 2020, on a charge that he conspired with a business partner of his who also was a former CIA officer to communicate classified information up to the Top Secret level to intelligence officials of the People’s Republic of China (PRC). The Criminal Complaint containing the charge was unsealed this morning.
Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, U.S. Attorney for the District of Hawaii Kenji M. Price, Assistant Director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division Alan E. Kohler Jr., and Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Honolulu Field Office Eli S. Miranda made the announcement.
The judge has imposed a “media blackout”, but Canadian outlets like Conservative Beaver are not subject to those rules. Other Canadian and Spanish-language outlets have already reported on this development.
“The trail of Chinese espionage is long and, sadly, strewn with former American intelligence officers who betrayed their colleagues, their country and its liberal democratic values to support an authoritarian communist regime,” said Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers. “This betrayal is never worth it. Whether immediately, or many years after they thought they got away with it, we will find these traitors and we will bring them to justice. To the Chinese intelligence services, these individuals are expendable. To us, they are sad but urgent reminders of the need to stay vigilant.”
“The charges announced today are a sobering reminder to our communities in Hawaii of the constant threat posed by those who seek to jeopardize our nation’s security through acts of espionage,” said U.S. Attorney Price. “Of particular concern are the criminal acts of those who served in our nation’s intelligence community, but then choose to betray their former colleagues and the nation-at large by divulging classified national defense information to China. My office will continue to tenaciously pursue espionage cases.”
“This serious act of espionage is another example in a long string of illicit activities that thePeople’s Republic of China is conducting within and against the United States,” said Alan E. Kohler Jr., Assistant Director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. “This case demonstrates that no matter the length or difficulty of the investigation, the men and women of the FBI will work tirelessly to protect our national security from the threat posed by Chinese intelligence services. Let it be known that anyone who violates a position of trust to betray the United States will face justice, no matter how many years it takes to bring their crimes to light.”
“These cases are very complicated and take years if not decades to bring to a conclusion,” said Eli Miranda, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Honolulu Division. “I could not be more proud of the work done by the men and women of the FBI’s Honolulu Division in pursuing this case. Their dedication is a reminder that the FBI will never waiver when it comes to ensuring the safety and security of our nation.”
Obama’s lawyers did not respond to a request for comment.
Ooooops!!! ???
Hi Pamela
Just looked on Orlov’s blog site, cannot find any reference to this. Can you post a link to where you found it so we can do some verification.
Perhaps news cannot negotiate Bass Straight and is therefore restricted for Antipodeans.
Cheers
Nick
It’s on his FB page Nick. I dont know how to post a link to a single post on there. :-)
Denied here Pamela
https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN28A2TU
Related topic altho no names
https://youtu.be/dpdAF3frRMY
And- can you believe
Search domain tapnewswire.com/2020/11/how-the-chinese-communist-party-and-western-tech-globalists-sold-the-world-a-lockdown/tapnewswire.com/2020/11/how-the-chinese-communist-party-and-western-tech-globalists-sold-the-world-a-lockdown/
Klaus Schwab also has close personal ties with China. His son Olivier Schwab is married to a Chinese woman and has headed the WEF office in Beijing since 2011. The West can learn just as much from China today as China does from the West, Schwab Junior enthused about the trade newspaper (28). Schwab Senior told the Chinese news magazine “New China TV” that China is on the right track …
9 hours ago — An article circulating on social media claims that President Barack Obama was arrested on Nov. 28 for espionage. This is false. The fabricated article includes segments of a press release by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) on Aug. 17, on the arrest of a former CIA officer
https://www.reuters.com/article/instant-article/idUSKBN28A2TU
Just so you know several media outlets reported on Ma’s arrest
see here: ‘Former CIA officer arrested and charged with spying for China’
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-spy-idUSKCN25D2H1
here: ‘Ex-C.I.A. Officer Is Accused of Spying for China’
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/us/politics/china-spying-alexander-yuk-ching-ma.html
here: ‘Former CIA officer charged with spying for China’
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-cia-officer-charged-spying-china-n1236976
and here: ‘Judge orders ex-CIA officer detained in China spy case’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/judge-orders-ex-cia-officer-detained-in-china-spy-case/2020/08/27/c705dd38-e8b6-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html
Please dont post obvious fake news stories – its difficult enough to get our heads around whats *actually happening without having to debunk all the agitprop and fake news that abounds on ‘the net of a thousand lies’ ie the internet.
Cheers
Its the not so obvious ones that cause all the trouble.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/29/biden-twisted-ankle/
This guy is a walking, talking, balking disaster.
The problem is Tyson, that until you investigate it, you dont know if it’s fake news or not. And sharing it to find out who knows what is a good quick way to get some substance.
As Ive said before I went to the specialist on the last day of the 1st month of Spring – so winter was well and truly over. Covid came up in the conversation. My specialist volunteered the info that in my country the seasonal flu accounts for 1500 deaths per year on average – this year that number was down to 80!!!
Here’s more evidence (via Dr Paul C Roberts)
Keyquote: “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.
A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19
The original content here: https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
PS This is *not to say that Covid doesnt exist , nor that it can be life-threatening
Regards
Vaccines are potentially more harmful and helpful so one needs be careful about claims of “herd immunity” occurring from mass vaccinations: See below for a healthy dose of survival skepticism:
http://newsletters.newsmax.com/blaylock/issues/D20922D/1120_BWR.pdf?ns_mail_uid=4db8c050-1e80-490d-a783-3fe0649129c7&ns_mail_job=DM165257_&s=acs&dkt_nbr=
I think I remember that you imagined covid-19 as a real (and significant) health concern for an extended period.
If so, do you still?
From your link:
“Of course, this means that only 0.2 percent of people who contract COVID-19 are at risk of death. And those deaths are not random. Rather, they occur mainly among people with two or more serious medical conditions, as well as individuals at the extremes of age — the highest risk being for people 80 or older. But most people with serious medical conditions do not live to reach their 80s. That explains why the death statistics are so deceptive. A person with very serious heart disease in his or her late 70s or 80s is essentially approaching the end of his or her life. Even if they catch a common cold virus, it can precipitate an untreatable progression to heart failure and death.Mental stress, poor diet, exertion, fear, and a number of other everyday conditions can trigger events that lead to death for these people. For example, we know that people in nursing homes have an 8 percent mortality rate when exposed to a common cold virus that would never kill a healthier, younger person, or even a healthy older person. The same is true for diabetes, morbid obesity, hypertension, and other diseases.”
Here’s the real deal:
“Investment bank Goldman Sachs has forecast that more than 70% of people in developed markets will be vaccinated against the coronavirus by fall 2021.”
The virus-thing-ie is real but greatly exaggerated so, yes, I have changed my mind somewhat—this play is still not over on the epidemiological scene. Also the virus became part of a greater plan obviously as we can see a techno fascist cabal aided in the USA by the CCP or elements within it. ( Apple has its servers in China and you can bet there is a price they paid for that –probably willingly but then, no special forces squad from the US military can raid them, can they?
The mortality threat is not just for older people as many younger people in the USA have poor health–diabetes and overweight conditions being very common. And nursing home deaths are high (40% can be) in a flu season where people are discharged from hospitals and concentrated in these homes. It can run rampant depending on the ethics and quality of the home’s administrators.
More, hopefully, much more will be revealed.
“but then, no special forces squad from the US military can raid them, can they?”
It’s not a problem, they all go by there with a moniker that ryhmes with ‘Henry Kissinger.
There was another “livestreamed” “public hearing” earlier today, starring Giuliani et al., this time held in Arizona. Complete with The Real Estate Buffon “calling in” (devoid of any content, as always). A gathering of typical American primitives – there to resist no less than … “Biden’s plan to turn America communist”!!! :-)
Bob
Listened to parts of that hearing. Most people understand that the latest US election was rigged. But again and again you keep hearing that Hugo Chavez supposedly invented a machine or software to rigg elections not only in Venezuela, but in America as well. It can be rejected out of hand. It bothersome to listen to Trump’s lawyers and other ‘witnesses’ repeating those falsehoods. The level of support Chavez enjoyed in Venezuela was unprecedented. No fraudulent elections needed.
“Of the 92 elections that we’ve monitored,” said former President Jimmy Carter, whose Carter Centre is a respected monitor of elections around the world, “I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world.” By way of contrast, said Carter, the US election system, with its emphasis on campaign money, “is one of the worst.”
http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-war-on-venezuela-is-built-on-lies
The Achievements of Hugo Chavez;
https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/14/the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez/
@ siljan (Шиљан?)
You hit the nail on the head. Contriving “involvement of Chavez” is not only 100% contradicting the facts about that great leader of his people, it is also so, shall we say, “passé”, that it will hardly gain any traction even among the otherwise poorly informed American sheeple. A safe bet is that this entire pitiful legal manoeuvre will fizzle.
As for the “choice” between the Buffon and Cadaver, Assange’s words prior to the 2016 election charade again apply: it is like choosing between cholera or gonorrhea.
You guys don’t get it.
There is an information war on and war is deception…and the combatants couldn’t care less as to what is “bothersome” to y’all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lWsOC7C4w
The Democrat Plan for Trump (Part One) by Thomas Wictor
20,170 views•Nov 30, 2020
Wictor (raised in Venezuela, by the way…but pre-Chavez) puts it realistically:
“Everybody is lying. Trump is lying to keep his enemies off his scent.”
The same way DT fooled Bob into thinking he’s a stupid buffoon, BTW, guys…meanwhile, every-single word-he -uses on such a call as into the Pennsylvania legislators is carefully chosen, for a purpose. You just don’t care about the purpose …….so of course you couldn’t care less about understanding what Trump is getting at……………because saving this republic IS NOT YOUR PURPOSE.
Far from it. That’s obvious.
continuing:
“The Democrats are lying, in order to muddy the waters and make you think certain things are happening when they are not happening.”
“And then there are rank opportunists who are just trying to get views and clicks and, you know, giant audiences, so you would be extremely well advised to not draw any conclusions………”
………From ANY one source ..especially your own experiences and ideological preferences…………but do a lot of crosschecking. And work on your pattern recognition. Then, should you discover that Trump is your best weapon against the globalism of Klaus Schwab….and THAT :Dystopian Slave System “Great Reset” you may begin to comprehend what this Intensifying showdown in the US ,,,,and more …actually affects you.
If you make no such discovery, none of you may be conscious active agents of Klaus Schwab…….but Mr Schwab would NEVER consider your thinking to be “bothersome” in any way.
Which is precisely what is needed at the present time: That is, to so bother and hinder Schwab’s Great Reset,,,,,that it fails enslave the planet to the mind control, human energy control ….and even genetic control through forced vaccines….all..for the “greater glory” of psychos like Mr Schwab and his bosom buddy in Technocratic Globalism and Human Herd Culling…………Bill Gates………of Hell.
Cheers!
“Which is precisely what is needed at the present time: That is, to so bother and hinder Schwab’s Great Reset,,,,,”
Or, rather, the opposite thereof:
https://wrenchinthegears.com/2020/11/24/new-york-london-india-and-australia-recent-interviews-on-human-capital-finance-and-the-great-reset/
“Karen Bracken says:
One day Americans will realize what President Trump tried to do by telling the WEForum to stick their Great Reset where the sun don’t shine and for getting the US out from under the Paris Accord which is the funding mechanism would use US finances and private property to fund the reset. Of course all the other countries jumped on board to get a piece of the American pie but little do they know none of this has anything to do with climate or environment just like lockdowns and mandated vaccines have nothing to do with health. The only people that will get a chunk of the American pie will be the global elite and Quid Pro Joe (Obama) has us all lined up for the slaughter.
November 25, 2020 at 8:10 am
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wrenchinthegears says:
Well, I would just say we are going to have to be our own heroes. Ivanka next to Benioff at the WEF
reskilling panel in January shows that much of the media circus is a spectacle meant to divide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlpMomsOWxA“
Jesse Ventura’s phrase: 2 party dictatorship.
SCOTUS will review and not take up the case. The legal remedies brought by the plaintiffs are too extreme.
Donald Trump is going NOWHERE. The USA is in a de facto state of undeclared war. The enemies are foreign and domestic. Featuring interviews with Gen Mike Flynn and Lt Gen Thomas McInerney from WvWtv.com. Fintan Dunne reports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7r-IMpFZNM&feature=emb_logo
Kent
No harm Kent but I think the guy in that video is trying to take you to the, non-existent, pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
Had to stop listening after:
“Thomas McKinerney is 83 now and was a Vietnam era fighter pilot in his day and a very accomplished individual”
Maybe he piloted the occasional C-123 to become accomplished at dropping Agent Orange indiscriminately over women and children in North Vietnam too?
This is now being pushed relentlessly – the title of that video.
IT’S WAR! – USA v. CHINA, IRAN, RUSSIA & US ELITES
The US warmongers want to pretend that it is what they call the constitutional republic of the USA that is the good guys, and everyone else is the bad guys. Take is a look at it .. combining the US Elites with those that they want to make war against. They want to pretend that it is China, Iran, Russia and we can continue with this list. They want to pretend that it is not the shameful actions of those in the US itself and they work with the remnants of Russiagate, the war on China, the continual sanctions and destabilization of Iran, and Venezuela, and whichever little country they can try to steal from.
These are the people that are jonesing for war, a big one, which is indeed raging, a small percentage kinetic at the moment, to become kinetic, and let the blood flow over our earth yet again. Warmongering and criminal SOBs and all in some way or another connected with the war machine. Believe them at your peril. And re-read from The Saker – Each “click” brings us one step closer to the “bang!”
/each-click-brings-us-one-step-closer-to-the-bang/
I think the first speech of Flynn is included in this posted video. I listened to it somewhere else. Your attention needs to be drawn to where he smoothly says .. there is a coup in the US (which is true) and the US – way back in the past – may have done these things as well … way back in the past and he smoothly and quickly moves on, leaving quite an erroneous impression that they are not doing it still today. So smooth the lie passes his lips – this man must have taken lessons from Pompeo.
The US official classes are very well skilled in blaming the other ones. This is called deflection and these patriots are deflecting like crazy. This is dishonorable and egregious.
Ray McGovern says: “Flynn now on the loose with like-thinking retired generals – not good.”
https://raymcgovern.com/2020/11/30/the-good-and-bad-of-the-flynn-pardon/
He goes on to say: “Are saner generals now in charge? We may be about to see. Meanwhile, most Americans have no clue as to whom to believe.”
Just above here a quote from Bro: “Everybody is lying. Trump is lying to keep his enemies off his scent.” I guess one time Bro got it right. And they all call themselves Christian.
Perhaps they can consider honesty as a better policy? (By this I don’t mean stupidity, but honesty).
Here is another quote.
“If wars can be started with lies – peace can be started by truth” | Julian Assange
“If wars can be started with lies – peace can be started by truth” | Julian Assange
How ironic that you would say that and then continually publish lies by commenters who regurgitate CIA disinformation about Iranians killing Serbs.
The Serbs are ethnic Iranians, for one thing. They are descended from the Sarmatians of old, who were later Slavicized. And what on earth would Iran have to gain from the killing of an absolutely irrelevant people in Eastern Europe? To further Sunni imperialism?
What’s next? Iranians killing the Saami people of Northern Scandinavia?
Jamshyd, I am not the publisher here. I don’t choose comments. I don’t control who thinks what. I don’t know what is next. I fear with the trajectory overall it will be bigger war. My great condolences to the Iranian people after this killing. I personally worked here around the clock for about 14 days solid all hours of the day and night after Gen Suleimani was killed. It was abhorrent. Take a look at how much we posted at the blog at the time, and much of that came from my hands on the administrative level. This killing is equally abhorrent. I am not your enemy. Don’t kick out against what you do not know. Ramin’s posting actually had me in tears yesterday.
A good response will be to go back to Ramin’s posting and calmly break apart the allegations made there. I actually opened it for you, hoping that you will take the realistic opening and not kneejerk. Don’t prove me wrong. I would like to see you neatly and strongly take those allegations apart with the wisdom that you have shown in the past, and with clear knowledge and not kneejerk all over the place. The mods will just put the knee-jerk postings in the trash. I don’t moderate. My allegiance is to the resistance countries – resistance against empire and empirical forces. As such, I consider myself a friend of Iran. Don’t kick your friends because you are pissed off. Now, please go and do the work, as I am not as skilled with that history as you are. I was really hoping you would do that work. An apology is also in order.
Finally, this comment of yours probably should have been moderated, because you are insulting this blog and the people that work for it. But, I am glad it was not moderated.
You are right, mate. I was pissed off. I apologize.
You are very wise, and patient. I am a hothead, and an idiot.
Cheers
Definitely not an idiot Jamshyd but neither right all the time – none of us are.
You’re better than most, but not in this lady’s genius league yet:
https://youtu.be/7sYRF99IT3w
(very long at 1hr 42min)
I am definitely not a genius, mate. None of the ideas that I have presented here in the cafe are original thoughts of my own. They are all part of the teachings of a very ancient and very secretive tradition of knowledge. Teachings which have been passed down from generation to generation. I did not make up a single word there.
My asinine political analyses I can proudly take credit for as being my very own. And let’s be honest, they are clearly the work of an idiot who barely has half a clue. I am way out of my league there.
And I am really not “better than most.” I have always been just average. There were kids I went to school with that were real prodigies. I was just an idiot. If I seem to have elevated myself slightly above average, it is only because of the teachings which I have been entrusted with, which I have put out there for any who care to learn them.
Do not sneeze at those concepts and ideas, they are older than the oldest nation on earth. And they can lead you to true mystery and magic, if you contemplate them.
BTW, I cannot make sense of what the lady is saying. I am unfamiliar with many of the terms and concepts. Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain?
P.S. What’s with the Anonymous?
BTW, I cannot make sense of what the lady is saying. I am unfamiliar with many of the terms and concepts. Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain?
So was she, not too long ago. It’s not all that easy, but this one, closer to the beginning of the plandemic, might be a better place to start:
https://wrenchinthegears.com/2020/04/19/vaccines-blockchain-and-bio-capitalism/
“P.S. What’s with the Anonymous?”
It’s an old story that began not too long after the beginning of the Ukranian Maidan but came to a head around the time a now “banned” commenter here used to to refer reverently to VVP and highly recommend him in a series of videos called “The Unknown Putin”. I was, at least, slightly, influential in changing his reverential attitude during that period.
The less said about that the more likely one’s comment is to be published, so, probably, better not to open that can of worms again, directly.
We are going to be implanted with nano-devices that will constantly measure and collect all of our biological/biometric variables, and transmit them to databases, where they will be analyzed and parsed by supercomputers.
As such, whenever we are given a vaccine or a drug, for example, the reaction exhibited by our bodies will be documented.
Eventually, enough data will be collected that the manipulation of the human organism will be as simple as it can possibly be.
When people come out and explain such things down to the smallest elaborate detail, and with the cold ruthlessness of a reptile at that, they are usually mouthpieces of the enemy, announcing the enemy’s intent.
Thank-you and fully accepted. I can be a hothead too. Peace.
Kent,
Thanks for posting F. Dunne’s calm recitation/presentation of what most combat vets can feel in their bones. I feel it. Actually I and other brothers in arms have anticipated what is now coming to the surface. I knew what had to be done and as it unfolds it is no surprise. Yes, it’s only beginning. I envision hardships to come but anything worthwhile requires it. I and others have stopped all MSM in our lives as the “noise” is designed to mask their real motives. The “Frankfort raid” is probably not the first kinetic action and many will follow. “Treason” has cornered the rats and all would be naive to think that the “empire” is only ensconced in the USA and only cleaning our house will solve the problem. This is global. Other “houses” must be cleaned by the patriots of those “countries. You, me, Trump, etc cannot and should not be the ones to do such. We can help in concert with those foreign patriots and most likely have. My old combat regiments motto comes to mind. Nec Aspera Terrent
“No Fear on Earth”. Stay calm; it confuses the enemy.
God bless the Patriots of earth.
hound
“Thanks for posting F. Dunne’s calm recitation/presentation of what most combat vets can feel in their bones…[]…God bless the Patriots of earth.”
I will assume you were involved in Agent Orange distribution too.
Anon……
“Agent Orange distribution?” No. I was a recipient of the “distributors” along with the Vietnamese. They were defending their homeland and in my youthful ignorance I was sent to attack it. We both were “rained on”.
If you think all veterans of unjust war are evil people, you would be wrong. Misplaced “patriotism” in the service of the “empire” is not necessarily the sole province of USA war veterans. Ignorance is “not knowing”. Stupidity is “knowing” and doing it anyway. I would not do that again. I will if needed fight the “empire” no matter where.
What are you willing to fight for, “anon”?
Steve Pahs/Wolfhound
“If you think all veterans of unjust war are evil people, you would be wrong.”
I can’t quite bring myself to say that inculcation/gullibility/ignorance that causes the harm/death of an innocent is still not evil.
“What are you willing to fight for, “anon”?”
The opposite of what the Global Elite have planned for us – signaled eloquently by DJT with his “patriotic mask” and insidious Operation Warp Speed.
It seems you will be fighting for the wrong side – your own Jailer’s – once more.
Your self-described difference between ignorance and stupidity is meaningless since, for you, they are one and the same thing.
You have form.
” by DJT with his “patriotic mask” and insidious Operation Warp Speed.”
Don’t let those fool you, Anonymous. If there are therapeutics that cure this over hyped thingee……no need to be vaccinated…..nothing compulsory.
But if someone other than me or you is worried sick maybe they’ll choose one. But I pity them.
I won’t, because I am not worried about it.
I am more worried about errors in thinking that are plain as day…..and your error error is not “meaningless”. It has unfortunate effects.
But I see no error in Steve’s distinction between young, ignorant draftees or enlistees thinking “My Country Must Always Be Right (a very ignorant assumption, throughout human history…) or worse “My Country, Right OR Wrong…..which is STUPID……….and getting some sense.
“If there are therapeutics that cure this over hyped thingee……
no need to be vaccinated…..nothing compulsory.”
The over hyping has been meticulously planned by the entire Global Elite:
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
DJT’s minion part in the “new normal” is enacted by the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine cure:
https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html
“Warp Speed’s goal is to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021”
The creeping vaccine mandate is proceeding apace. You should be very concerned (unless, of course, you have an exemption certificate just like The Donald’s):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55143484
Nadhim Zahawi has been appointed as a new health minister to oversee rollout of the vaccine in England.
Asked on Monday whether people who get the Covid-19 jab will receive some kind of “immunity passport” to
show they have been vaccinated, Mr Zahawi told the BBC: “We are looking at the technology.
“And, of course, a way of people being able to inform their GP that they have been vaccinated.
“But, also, I think you’ll probably find that restaurants and bars and cinemas and other venues, sports
venues, will probably also use that system – as they have done with the (test and trace) app.
“I think that in many ways, the pressure will come from both ways, from service providers who’ll say, ‘Look,
demonstrate to us that you have been vaccinated’.
“But, also, we will make the technology as easy and accessible as possible.”
Mandatory Vaccine or, in the end, total societal exclusion – spot the difference.
PS:
this “over-hyped thingee” is commonly, as you know, called SARS-CoV-2, a virus. If this virus is created by human cells as a result of disease rather than as it’s cause (as Pamela suggests could be the case) it would then not be a part of the problem but of the body’s immune signaling solution to the disease (whatever that is).
Why would you then consider, if it is a part of disease solution, that the therapeutics that have been developed could be beneficial since they have been developed on the basis that the virus is actually part of the problem?
Anonymous you need to put this in broader strategic CONTEXT.
Take your pick, the globalist fearmongering leading to Agenda 2030 vast reduction in human population beginning early in the second quarter of the present century…………or Donald Trump coming out of his “case” in less than a week, saying “I haven’t felt this good ibn 20 years.”
Your hysteria even on “our side” of the Stupid 19 divide is something I wish you’d stifle in yourself.
The only good it’s doing is providing a great example of paranoid overreaction and TDS mixed together…for others to catch themselves…thinking …and avoid doing….in terms of expressing just another form of fear.
Something which seems, on the surface, in todays world, to be of marginal interest. However, it may carry the straws indicating which way the wind may be blowing in a few years, for Russian leadership.
I have slightly edited this to keep it short but from todays “Putin Today” we have :
“ Deputy Prime Minister {a man some in Russia have marked as ” a man to be watched” } Dmitry Grigorenko clearly pointed out how many development institutions {need to be } – and now will be, reformed.
Here I would like to note the following fact. All these years, development institutions have been the “feeder” of the liberal clan of Russia. And, specifically, the so-called “Family” — a group of liberals close to the family of former Russian President Boris Yeltsin. Despite the fact that Yeltsin left office 20 years ago, the “Family” managed to maintain its influence, even if now it does not act in the first roles. In particular, the “Family” controlled most development institutions.
But now that is over. Dmitry Grigorenko expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that in previous years the development institutions were not controlled by the government, and the tasks that they implemented were actually invented by them. Now everything will change. Due to action from P.M. Mishustin, the Development institutions (DIS) will be subordinated directly to the government. Ah, that’s it:
The IR activities will be focused directly on achieving national goals. Grigorenko notes that previously their activities were practically not linked to the development of the state
IRS often duplicated the functionality, which reduced their effectiveness and did not show results
Now there will be a strict monitoring of the activities of R & d ORGANIZATIONS, and they will be given concrete and tangible goals
I would like to note that among all the development institutions, only the industrial development Fund has performed relatively well. However, it was not controlled by the Family, but directly by the Ministry of industry and trade, which is headed by Denis Manturov.
Well, now the most important thing. According to Deputy P.M. Grigorenko, the initiative to reform development Institutions came directly from Russian President Vladimir Putin. This fact suggests that striking a blow against the liberal clan is the desire of the President himself. And this is quite logical.
We are waiting for a difficult period related to the transfer of power in 2024. In this regard, it is necessary that the liberal clan be maximally weakened, and the statesmen are maximally strengthened. That is why at the moment it is necessary to deprive liberals of both political and economic resources.
I wonder, could this indicate that, perhaps, V.V. is not contemplating using the Constitutionally given ability to run for President in 2024? As the writer says, if he doesn’t, it’s essential that the strength of “Liberals” be substantially weakened, and it appears that it is V.V. himself who is promoting this.
Food for thought. In 2024, a new leadership in both Russia and America??
There is one comment so far to this article, but it received 6 “thumbs up”. It’s one word. “Molodcy” Attaboy”. !!
Agree on watching and weakening the liberals; I have long surmised that the so-called atlanticists, the western cabal, et al is an aspect which is worrisome in Russia. kudrin et al to my mind represent the vipers’ nest.
They were in control under yeltsin but have been kept at bay by putin but nevertheless caution and watchful observations is key.
Someone mentioned that the Central Bank has now been brought under more control of the govt than before-cannot find a link for that, however.
A nothing article but it does illustrate the breathless hope of the liberals for Russian to be brought under zionist/neo con control.
https://english.pravda.ru/russia/145289-russian_liberals/
Magnum opus credo.
Jimi, Blue, and God
9. Abyss
The abyss is a true thunderclap!
“I’m alone” Gasp! Of course there is
The Lord Most High, but (gasp!)
He doesn’t need me!” And
With the gasp goes an expletive
Perhaps “Jesus Christ!” Or “by
The seal of the prophets” or “by
The blood of Husayn!” —- you know
(We’re friends here) The Lord’s name,
And you realize: ” I can recite the
Names of Allah from times past
Until times future, but this
Ship of eternity will not move!
10. Stuck
This ship will not move! Christ!
I can be as pious as his mercy
To the worlds or Jesus, but
Here I am!
I could carry on with rage
But I’m still here!
I could do either or both
From time immemorial to
Time without end, but
My situation remains unchanged!
Curses! I seem stuck! And
Allah knows, and I know
He knows, and He knows
I know! Good God!
11. Down
By noon on day two in the pit
My heart was at its nadir:
“I wish I hadn’t been born.”
No one could see us and
We were so alone.
I was aware of his presence
And thought ” oh well, it
Is a good thing to just know
The truth for oneself whether in
Heaven or hell. And besides, what kind
Of lover would be swayed
By heaven or hell?”
Brother Blue Iconoclast
Thank you for slipping some Soul work in between the rest of humanity’s concerns.
Two posts today from Paul Craig Roberts on the election. One on disputing the election results in Pennsylvania – overstepping of election laws – which I’m guessing a judge can easily find a way to dismiss :
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/30/remember-the-presstitute-lie-factories-claimed-there-was-zero-electoral-fraud/
But the second is Dr Shiva’s mathematical analysis on vote weighting, which is not easily debunked, surely a more effective strategy :
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/12/01/mathematician-shows-that-in-arizona-the-dominion-machines-counted-biden-votes-as-1-3-votes-and-trump-votes-as-0-7-votes/
dispatch from the belly of the techno-fascist beast:
December1st. An eerie quiet permeates the neighborhood. I encounter few out walking and those that I do act furtive scurrying away, crossing the street etc. A coup has fallen quietly like 6 feet of soft snow.
I am taking a zoom course in astrology to systemize my views. since my knowledge is here and there with various teachers of various specialties. My current teacher ( psychological-spiritual astrology) gave a brief talk last class about astrological ethics ( and an e-mail warning aside—evidently astrologers can get on the hit list of the 1%). One of our assignments was to look at prominent people’s charts and compare them to their biographies. We are talking celebrities. Well, of course, who else but Putin for me? O-M-G!!! I think I will need the next level class to answer in depth questions like what was going on in his chart when he first took prominent office and why? But for a beginner, I can say and defend in this system why this man could have been the head Abbot ( or whatever it is called in Orthodoxy) of Mt. Athos. Easily. And it would have been Mt. Athos.( that would be harder to justify given my current state of knowledge however.).
During one assignment I did reconstruct a mystery chart ( it was a real person we all had to guess) logically but totally wrong—he was laughing and shaking his head in a kind enough way..ahhhh, humility .
ternamam13, I have question for you. Last year,in reference to the upcoming year of 2020, an astrologer who posts here (not sure if it was you or mundo or another), wrote that in the astrology systems of several different great cultures, it was predicted to be an important year full of huge changes.
It was also suggested that the leadership of different countries consult their astrologers.
What are the major different ethnic schools of astrology?
I understand from site I visit, that we have a rare conjunction with a moon in Gemini eclipse this December, which has not happened for about 600 yrs. When Genghis Kahn was rampaging, I think.
Any thoughts ? “-)
Re V.V.’s astrological profile, how did go regarding the fact that we dont know his ascendent, which many I’ve read hold to be at least as important as the Sun sign, if not more so. How do you regard this?
Interesting study to get into teranam, better than reading about the antics of swamp creatures :-)
There are various anonymous’s in the world, not to mention on here, and some work for the good, other’s the lesser good.
Intuition and the open heart will, in time, teach how to recognize which is which at a glance. Also, I might add, without any external prompting of any kind, at any stage.
Re this : “better than reading about the antics of swamp creatures :-)” That is of course funny, but perceptive in respect of antics of one kind or another, from any source, tending towards having irresistible fascination….
teranam13, great people-snow and astrology dispatch, but why from such a dubious source ? The human ego lives continually in the potential for geographic and individual freedom, what glorious opportunity. I think you know this.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ag-barr-no-evidence-fraud-would-have-changed-election-outcome
Jeez, if “anyone” had any doubt about the vipers nest of doj with its swamp, holdovers, etc, this should just about do it; Barr has been deep, deep swamp since the days when he was the go to guy for Casey, Ray gun’s cia chief. Trump has had sessions, rosenstein, huber, fbi wray, what the hell does he control, if anything.
Recent reports from, admittedly, a UK newspaper, but probably based on some data; however, I would agree it’s interesting, but maybe needs to held over until verified.
However, it’s interesting.
https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/archives/peru-brutal-lockdown-but-worlds-highest-excess-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR2YgINVXec3cpuSAhUrmniVugUgvro_4B_7UWs_xQ9g2w3Ho8x5ylXlY_8
I was especially pleased with this piece of news from an African Medical Paper:
“Peru remains in the grips of what may be the most intense COVID-19 outbreak in the world. Officially, there have been more than 28,000 deaths, in a population of 31m. But, reports The Daily Telegraph, when all fatalities are taken into account, including those without a formal corona-virus diagnosis, the Andean nation now has the worldʼs highest rate of “excess” deaths compared to historical averages.
Africa knows better than to label this an “anything American” nation. It’s an Andean Nation. Well said Medical Brief out of Zimbabwe :-)
Basically the paper is stating that the nation with the strictest, most Draconian lock-down measures also has the worlds highest sickness rate!!!!
Go figure, as they say.
And there we go folks.
And this now will have to hit MSM. What ARE the cute little panty-waisters who sit in seats of Government going to do, I wonder??
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508383-fatal-flaws-covid-test/
A global team of experts has found 10 FATAL FLAWS in the main test for Covid and is demanding it’s urgently axed. As they should”
“ The 10 deadly sins
Among the fatal flaws that totally invalidate the PCR testing protocol are that the test:
is non-specific, due to erroneous primer design
is enormously variable
cannot discriminate between the whole virus and viral fragments
has no positive or negative controls
has no standard operating procedure
does not seem to have been properly peer reviewed
Oh dear. One wonders whether anything at all was correct in the paper. But wait – it gets worse. As has been noted previously, no threshold for positivity was ever identified. This is why labs have been running 40 cycles, almost guaranteeing a large number of false positives – up to 97 percent, according to some studies.
The cherry on top, though, is that among the authors of the original paper themselves, at least four have severe conflicts of interest. Two of them are members of the editorial board of Eurosurveillance, the sinisterly named journal that published the paper. And at least three of them are on the payroll of the first companies to perform PCR testing
I wait with baited breath. Will it make it to MSM? Will the Evil Empire PropaUnit squash it? Will Bojo change his tiers with his pants and get covid for the 3rd time, forcing him into seclusion while he has hysterics? Watch this space and tune in for the next mind numbing installment.
Pamela,
you did make me laugh about Boris getting covid for the 3rd time – but actually, it wouldn’t even surprise me if he did ! Also this on same subject :
https://www.globalresearch.ca/external-peer-review-rt-pcr-test-detect-sars-cov-2-reveals-10-major-scientific-flaws-molecular-methodological-level-consequences-false-positive-results/5730889
Never mind – we’ll still be told to take the vaccine ( every 3 months ? ). Doubters have been described as not having empathy, being selfish psychopaths, terrorists and more. I don’t think this will end.
We’re living in a post logic world and it would be funny – if it weren’t for the real threat of compulsory vaccination – or enforced house arrest / social isolation.
Yes, that there is either an agenda, or the people who hold the power have gone completely off their heads, is becoming clearer and clearer Sandy.
Re the threat of compulsory vaccination – I’m already working out how to dodge that one. But details are secret Lol.
You are correct though – a “post logic world” at least in the Empire +. Describes it perfectly.
By the way, I read a piece from Russia about how they are all in hysterics about the Psaki woman returning to front and centre. Apparently she gave rise to an adjective – to “psaks” – to keep putting you foot in your mouth in the most hilarious ways.
And here she is, regaining centre stage.
Poor poor Monty Python. did they think, I wonder, that a reality would come along that could outdo anything they could ever think of.
It won’t be long then before someone finds the footage where she’s at the podium and lets out a huge fart – then hides her face in her hands. I’m surprised that hasn’t surfaced yet. I suppose she may have been picked because she gets everything wrong – so blundering Biden won’t look so bad.
On avoiding the vaccine, surely vegetarians / vegans have the right to refuse a squalene containing concoction ? No doubt some daft reason would be conjured up to disallow all refusals – national security or some such nonsense. Come to think of it, that’s already been used by an MP wanting to criminalise anyone questioning the covid narrative.
Re Psaki.
Plot twist.
With the Russia phobia now so deeply embedded in the psych of many…. I have seen a pick of her with her arms around Lavrov and Maria Zacharova (with John Kerry who was SoS at time).
Pick is used to Screeeeech Psaki is a Russian bot, tool, agent (pick your scary label).
It’s both funny, and terrifying.
Pamela,
I just remembered the name – Gilbert Doctorow – he coined the phrase ‘ post logic world ‘. He was talking about the recent Navalni pantomime, but I think the phrase applies more generally.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/75°00'47.8%22S+0°03'55.3%22E/@-75.0172827,0.0558168,1814m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-75.0132701!4d0.0653576
What is this?
In the antarctic ice it is quite normal to find structures/things in perfectly straight lines i guess, seems to be “very natural” and not at all weird…
I am intrigued and curious.
Looks like a stranded, iced in sled line. Hard to determine size and scale but they make sleds for the Australian Antarctic division here in Tasmania and they are seriously big.
Or just your standard garden variety aliens.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6367937.html#cutid1
A huge FWIW on German govt answers pertaining to Navalny farce; basically no information!
There’s something definitely afoot: Trump’s Zio-minder hiding in plain sight, Jared Kushner is to visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar
“Jared Kushner’s planned trip to the Gulf comes after the assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist and a high-profile visit between Israel and Saudi Arabia’s leaders”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-usa-kushner/trump-senior-aide-kushner-and-team-heading-to-saudi-arabia-qatar-idUSKBN2890VJ
As I’ve said before one of the fave tactics of the TPTB is to commit a greater crime to obscure a smaller one – the assassination of the 3 richest, & most vocal, opponents of a US central bank in the sinking of the Titanic springs to mind – with passenger airline crashes being quicker and easier to plot these days
Given that under the cloud (“the first casualty of war is the truth”) of WWIII, the zionist entity under remote control by the City of London (a mile² of banksters’ head offices) will extend its borders to absorb KSA, Jordan, Lebanon, the eastern 2/3 of Syria, the western 1/3 of Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Yemen and Oman, aka the Greater Israel Project – and thereby control the World Island (Afro-Eurasia) and ‘whoever controls the World Island, controls the World’ – Mackinder’s words to the effect
The 1982 ‘Oded Yinon Plan’ and the 1996 ‘A Clean Break’ report will then be exposed – but by then of course the populations of the western so-called ‘liberal’ democracies will be fully under techno-surveillance – and powerless to protest at wars for land conquest which were prohibited under the post WWII Geneva Conventions
To be forewarned is to be forearmed!
T
Israeli occupation cost Gaza $16.7 billion in past decade – UNCTAD estimates
“Israel’s military operations in the Gaza Strip and the ongoing blockade of the Hamas-ruled enclave have caused as much as $16.7 billion in economic damage, the UN said last week.
In a report submitted to the UN General Assembly, the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) put the estimated cumulative economic cost between 2007 and 2018 at $16.7 billion, a sum that is six times Gaza’s annual GDP for 2018. The agency said the poverty rate reached 56% in 2017 …”
https://unctad.org/news/israeli-occupation-cost-gaza-167-billion-past-decade-unctad-estimates#:~:text=As%20a%20result%20of%20the,million%20(constant%202015%20US%24)
… and I’d like to wager that you wont see this in your nation’s MSM (aka Empire’s News) any time soon …
Iranian commander killed in airstrike on Iraq-Syria border
“No one has yet taken responsibility for the bombing that killed the IRGC commander”
https://www.reuters.com/article/iraq-iran-syria-militias/air-strike-kills-irgc-commander-at-iraq-syria-border-iraqi-officials-idUSKBN28A2SB
Irish Biden, who Wants Britain to stay in the European Union, because of Ireland and other Countries also Want Britain to be Trapped in the European Union, whereas the British People Want to be Free and Sovereign.
It Appears that Irish Biden has Volunteered for the Vile and Odious Nazi Task offered to him by Israel’s Prime Minister, Adolf Netanyahu, of given the Bill Gates covid 19 Dangerous and Poisonous alleged vaccines to the Palestinians.
This is in order to commit Genocide as Israel’s Final Solution to its Genocide Program of Palestine that they began in 1948.
Many People Perceived this, because even though President Donald Trump has been a very good friend of Nazi Israel, Yet, Adolf Netanyahu congratulated Irish European Union Biden for Allegedly winning the Election, before the Votes were Scrutinized.
Australia’s Prime Minister, did the same, and this Shows that England’s Puppet Colony of Australia was following orders from its Colonial Master to thwart Brexit.
We Know that this process began before the 2016 American Election, with the efforts of Alexander Downer, Christopher Steele, and others of Anglo Saxon ancestry, who were Wrongly melding in American Elections, and while it is better to wait and see the who is inaugurated in January next year, it appears as though the English succeeded this time in having their Puppet in the White House.
The reason is because the English Establishment are Traitors to Britain, and they may have been Secretly Filmed in Acts of Paedophilia on Epstein’s Flying Brothel called the Lolita Express on which both Bill Gates and President Bill KKKlinton and Many Others have been Passengers.
What the English Establishment did Not like of Donald Trump, was that he was Keen on giving Britain a Free Trade Agreement, but they Wanted to be in the European Union, as did the European Union.
They now have their Irish Puppet Biden, and it is Sad and Shameful to Many Americans, that America has once again become of England’s Puppet Colony.
We have seen how the European Union do Not accept the Vetoes of Poland and Hungary, Even though it is European Union Law, and their Sovereign Right, because they do not like Democracy, and we Know that Ireland was a WW 2 Ally of Nazi German, and they like an Irish American Leader who does Not put America First, because he Stole an Election to be a Puppet of Germany’s Fourth Reich.
America has Disgraced itself to the World, and People Will Know that the KKKlintonite KKKoruptocrats Stole the 2020 Election, with the Help of a Corrupt and Puppet Judicial System.
Senile Biden says that he wants to heal America, after a Rigged Election, but what he and Harris want is to Bring Americans to Heel, and they Want them to Ignore the Unamerican and Undemocratic Act of Stealing an Election.
It would be pResident Biden and Vice pResident Harris, because they are Puppet Residents of Hillary KKKliton’s Whites’ House, and Hillary KKKlinton calls Harris, Harry, because of being a Fan of Harry Belafonte, and it is because Harry sounds like hillHarry, and Perhaps Harris has received a Secret KKKommission from covering up, the 10 Billion Dollars of Withheld Haiti Donations, by the KKKlinton Foundation.
This is an updated comment, which contains more information and explanations that what the other comment did on Brexit Betrayal. Attempt.
We have seen how the Traitors in the British Parliament have Betrayed the People again, and this time it is with regards to Brexit, and it is because the English Establishment took Seriously what Nazi Germany said, and that is that Europe is More White than English Colonies, like India, and which Also includes Largely non white American Colony.
This is Why the English Establishment Wants their Puppets in the British Parliament to Backtrack on Brexit, and we Know that Scotland Wants to stay in the European Union, because Scotland is a White Country/English Colony, and this is Why Nicola Sturgeon wears that Unnecessary and Useless dog muzzle (face mask), because the American Jews and Nazi Germany, Need each other, because Germany does Not want any Country to leave Hotel California (European Union) and the Palestinians are No price for Nazi Germany to pay to try to keep Britain in the European Union,
This comes as No surprise to Many British People, because they Think that they have been Betrayed by Traitors with the Climate change Scam at https://www.youtube.com/user/1000frolly/videos , and where carbon dioxide does Not affect the Climate, but Deforestation and Reforestation affect the Climate.
There are Many British Voters who Think that Boris Johnson simply took over from Teresa May, with a Subtle Deceptive Version of Backtracking on Brexit, with his oven ready Brexit Backtrack.
Perhaps the next step Could be to Rig an election over the matter that will be Rigged to have the British Labour Party Steal the Election, even as All Analysts that I Trust as Honest and Competent, say that the recent Election in America was Rigged Against President Donald Trump, and they Knew this, but Corrupt Puppets said that such Evidence had no standing, and I Think that Mitch McConnell is of the Swamp, because he recommended to President Trump those Fifth Columnist Corrupt Supreme Court Judges, who acted Corruptly regarding the Election.
The Concerning thing, Regarding how some of the Supreme Court members, who were picked by President Trump or Puppet Mitch McConnell (or Epstein Videos will not Snitch on Mitch), said that Trump’s Election concerns had no standing, but failed to say Why at https://electroverse.net/dr-roger-hodkinson-on-covid-hoax/ .
It is the opinion of People that if a Person Cannot or does Not want to give a reason(s) for their actions, then they are either Insane, or Corrupt, or lying for some reason, possibly even a legitimate reason, and so which one is it, and for what reason or reasons, and Secret Swamp Judges Should do the Honorable Thing and give Explanations, or Resign.
Perhaps Senile Biden, who Wants Britain to stay in the European Union, even as Ireland and others do, and he has been given the task of getting covid 19 Dangerous and Poisonous vaccines to the Palestinians, for the Nazi Jewish Leadership, and Germany is Not upset with Israel, because Germany got More Jews, than what Jews got Germans.
We Know that Biden and Harris Want to stay in Syria, even though it is Thoroughly Unjustified, Corrupt, and it is Genocide, and so they will have no qualms over Palestinians.
The KKKlinton Foundation has 100 Billion Dollars, and has Withheld 10 Billion Dollars donated to the Black People of Haiti for the 2010 earthquake, and the Psychopathic Swamp, and Psychopath Hillary KKKlinton herself, who is of the Swamp, Wants to be the Secret, but Real President of America, and do that by Blackmailing her Puppets, Puppet Biden, and Harris KKKhameleon, and at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3819671/Man-claiming-Bill-Clinton-s-illegitimate-son-prostitute-continues-campaign-former-president-recognize-him.html .
This is Especially True because Hillary KKKlinton Probably HAS the Films of (p) Resident SWAMP Selected Biden and Others being Secretly Filmed on Jeffrey Epstein’s Flying Paedophile Brothel Know as the Lolita Express.
Senile Puppet Biden has said that he Would Fake an Illness to let Harris KKKhameleon, who was Very Popular among White Democrats because of InKKKarceration of Black men, become the Resident of Psychopath Hillary KKKlinton’s White House at https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/17/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud .
Boris Johnson and others KNOW Prince Andrew (Randy Andy), who stayed at Jeffrey Epstein’s Paedophile Apartment on Many Occasions, and we Know that Bill Gates was Good Friends with Jeffrey Epstein at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
There is a Video Titled: Prince Andrew (Randy Andy) and Epstein Interview Body Language Analyzed (2020), and it is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFYTBMfVqr0 , and Even some Judges in America are of the Swamp.
Perhaps Boris Johnson Offered Nigel Farage and Others to take a Harmless saline solution as a safe Pretend vaccine, while Most Brexiteers Will get the Bill Gates’ Dangerous and Poisonous Palestinian vaccines, in order to keep Britain in the European Union, and to Keep Scotland in Britain.
There is a True Saying which says, that we see what you do, and we hear what you say, but what is the Real Reason Behind it?