Moveable Feast Cafe 2021/09/10 … Open Thread

anon you hv good sincere Q there :) and you shown some glimpse of ‘self-awareness’ and willingness to ‘self-correct’ I giv you that.
I am sure both Sudhi and Dimitar will offer their best reply to you as they hv been. I hv enjoy this little discussion as w many here :)

your Q: ‘And what is ultimate liberation, if not freedom from oneself, and one’s self-imposed limitations?’
I’d be having too much fun if I even begin… but let me point you to the only word that is repeated twice here – what is ‘Self’?
in you are unable to separate that, ‘Self’ from, for the v crude language limitation here, ‘non-self’ then everything might as well be… well… Maya :)

I thought you said you do OBE?!?
‘what’ is being separated from ‘what’?!?

xD Ha HA
dont forget to hv a ton of fun along the path of twist and turns, seeker!

I yield the floor to you both Sudhi and Dimitar :)
both of you are great teachers :)

bwbs

“And finally, have either one of you remembered any past lives?

If you haven’t, then please humor me, what is it that makes you believe in reincarnation?”

(34) Arguments on Reincarnation–I: The Single Source
(35) Arguments on Reincarnation–II: Mind and Matter
(36) Arguments on Reincarnation–III: Is There A “Soul”?
(37) Arguments on Reincarnation–IV: Nature of Memory
(38) Arguments on Reincarnation–V: The Independence Of Mind
(39) Arguments on Reincarnation–VI: Reincarnation or Revelation?
(40) Arguments on Reincarnation–VII: The Underlying Law
(41) Arguments on Reincarnation–VIII: Law and Justice
(42) Arguments on Reincarnation–IX: Memory and Justice
(43) Arguments on Reincarnation–X: Actual Memories
(44) Arguments on Reincarnation–XI: The Animal Question
(45) Arguments on Reincarnation–XII: Reincarnation and Heredity
(46) Arguments on Reincarnation–XIII: Reincarnation and Environment
(47) Arguments on Reincarnation–XIV: The Social Cycle

https://blavatsky.net/Wisdomworld/setting.html

Anonymous
This is not the proof you are looking for but may be of interest for you. From Mahasaccaka Sutta the Buddha describes the night of his enlightenment.

“When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward recollection of past lives. I recollected my many kinds of past lives, with features and details.

This was the first knowledge, which I achieved in the first watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed and knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute. But even such pleasant feeling did not occupy my mind.

When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward knowledge of the death and rebirth of sentient beings. With clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, I saw sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. I understood how sentient beings are reborn according to their deeds.

This was the second knowledge, which I achieved in the middle watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed and knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute. But even such pleasant feeling did not occupy my mind.

When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward knowledge of the ending of defilements. I truly understood: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’ I truly understood: ‘These are defilements’ … ‘This is the origin of defilements’ … ‘This is the cessation of defilements’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of defilements.’

Knowing and seeing like this, my mind was freed from the defilements of sensuality, desire to be reborn, and ignorance. When it was freed, I knew it was freed.

I understood: ‘Rebirth is ended; the spiritual journey has been completed; what had to be done has been done; there is no return to any state of existence.’

This was the third knowledge, which I achieved in the last watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed and knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute. But even such pleasant feeling did not occupy my mind”

Anonymous wrote… “Nothing is true; everything is permitted.”

Nothing or no-thing, is true in the sense that we’re dealing with Truth as eternal, as First Cause,
and that everything else is necessary in order to give Soul(s) experience. Remember, Soul is here to gain a number of realisations, and eveything it does is for this particular end, so every lifetime will contain a set of experiences that move Soul along slowly but surely.

It’s long journey through the worlds of duality is in order to cultivate a great love for all life. When It develops this love for all of life, then It begins to live and move and have Its being above and beyond the law of karma. It may still be in the realm of karma, but It will live and move and have Its being in a world that is invisible to all but Itself, ( and the spiritual hierarchy ).

“…everything is permitted.”

While in the worlds of action and reaction, everything that falls under the law of karma will bring a consequence.
Soul learns from what It does, b/c there is always a reaction ( though the reaction may not be immediate ), and thus develops an understanding of right and wrong action.

In truth, the greatest and simplest Law of Life, is that Soul exists because God loves It. Soul Itself, must one day live by this supreme law, and in so doing, give detached love to all of life. One also retains one’s individuality throughout eternity. Remember, “God created Soul then threw away the mold”… ie; made each Soul unique, and Soul must find the key to “Soul exists b/c God loves It” within Itself, hence ‘nothing is true’ but this law within Itself, as the supreme code to live by. We become an example of that love in expression.

Why love? Because Divine Love is the golden thread that holds the tapestry of God’s universes together, and when Soul has solved the problem of Itself It moves on to the greater problem of aligning Itself with God.

Mixed message twitter link, ideally requiring more info and input. Strikes me as a contradictory conundrum to talk about censorship around here, a nice elitist chosen privilege, given or permitted by anyone who either dictates or supports censorship, well, no doubt eliciting a certain satisfactory superiority, enjoy !

Uncle Bob, I don’t want to depress you but there are some horrifying facts and figures here. Everyone in Russia should read what is being done and hopefully gain immunity through anger and knowledge.

How the West “feeds” the opposition and NGOs in Russia
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A hybrid war is going on against Russia. Once again, this war is being waged by the collective West. No matter how home-grown liberals tried to convince us that no one is interested in Russia, that it seems to us, quilted jackets, that we are surrounded, to put it mildly, by ill-wishers, that Russia is only one percent of the world economy, but the facts indicate the opposite. Russia is very interesting for both Europe and the United States.

To be precise, for the United States Russia is not only interesting, but, as Biden said , “poses the greatest threat in terms of undermining America’s security.”

So Russia is not a regional power after all, as Obamushka stated a few years ago?

Realization of this in the United States came, but too late. Well, that’s how Putin intended it. While it seemed to them that they were tearing our economy to shreds, he unexpectedly made Russia a world-class power, which greatly influences world processes.

Over the years, the American establishment has gone through two stages of accepting the inevitability of a return to a multipolar world: denial and anger . With the arrival of Biden, they entered the third stage: bargaining is now inexorably approaching depression , and there, even before the inevitable is accepted, it will remain to take a small step.

Militarily, as we have seen, the United States is a colossus with feet of clay, because it has always been defeated by a weaker adversary. Almost all of their attempts to resolve the issue by force in different regions of the world have failed.

But let’s be honest, until recently the United States could refer to the fact that Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea were assisted by another superpower – the USSR. Even after the defeat in Syria, they could refer to the fact that Bashar al-Assad was supported by Russia, and not they were there at all, but bearded barmaley. However, the failures to forcefully overthrow the unwanted regimes in Syria and Venezuela still dealt a painful blow to America’s credibility, showing the whole world that it is possible to deal with Russia, and we can, if something happens, take our ally under the protection.

But the most serious blow to American pride and image was inflicted in Afghanistan, from where, despite the infusion of trillions of dollars and the latest weapons systems, the high-tech army of the hegemon shamefully fled in turmoil, abandoning weapons worth hundreds of billions of dollars, from guys in shales and turbans, for the first time in the life of those who saw power trainers. This speaks of the complete moral and spiritual degradation of the American army, unable to withstand a stronger in spirit enemy.

But let’s go back a little and think about how the United States could stop Russia?

Only by changing the government to a government loyal to them.

But the use of force to change power, of course, was impossible under any circumstances, and the United States had only one thing to do: connect forces inside Russia that would work to weaken the power and, under certain conditions, could carry out a coup.
They have already worked out the technology of carrying out color revolutions in other countries and reasonably hoped that it would work flawlessly in our country as well. The key condition for the success of such a revolution is the introduction of discord in society, the constant feeding of citizens’ discontent with the help of pain points, which, it must be admitted, in Russia, as in any other country in the world, are full. It was only necessary to put pressure on these painful points in the right way and “turn on” the people.

Navalny was chosen to play the role of one of the oppressors, and the financing of the non-systemic opposition created by him began. In the United States, this item of expenditure was called “promoting democracy in Russia”, and billions of dollars were officially allocated for this “promotion”.

As you remember, Navalny has consistently argued that he has no Western funding, that he is sponsored exclusively by supporters from Russia. This was said so that his brainchild “FBK” (an organization recognized as extremist in the Russian Federation) was not branded “a foreign agent”, and he also did not want to lose the trust of his adherents.

And so, in order to hide foreign funding, almost win-win options were chosen.

In February, a former Russian citizen, video blogger Alexander, who lives in the United States, told us about the first on his YouTube channel Sanya in Florida. He decided to see where the transfers come from to Navalny’s bitcoin wallet and found out a very interesting detail. The names of the owners of bitcoin wallets from which bitcoins were transferred for FBK, of course, it was impossible to establish , but it turned out that from one of the wallets in October 2019, Alexey was transferred 10.45734373 bitcoins, which at the rate at that time is $ 10115.98 = 1 bitcoin amounted to $ 105,786 or 6,665,594 rubles.

Of course, this was not the only payment. Such payments were made regularly, and the amounts appeared there approximately the same in dollars, if you convert bitcoins to dollars at the exchange rate on the dates indicated in the left column.

In principle, even seeing this, one might think that a certain Russian billionaire, dissatisfied with Putin and dreaming of overthrowing him, but at the same time wishing to remain unrecognized so as not to happen, is monthly supporting Navalny.

But Alexander decided to dig deeper and see what kind of wallet it was from which the transfer came to the date indicated in the uppermost line on the left. He entered his number and got acquainted with the movement of funds that were carried out using this bitcoin wallet, and it turned out that this was not the wallet of some worker from the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant or a student – that is, ordinary Russians, as Alexei usually said, but a wallet , to which and from which not just large, but huge sums of money are transferred. In total, more than one million bitcoins came to this wallet:

If you translate this amount into dollars, then it will amount to a fantastic $ 30 billion . Even Russian billionaires “nervously smoke on the sidelines” from such sums. And here we remember that billions of dollars are constantly allocated in the United States to promote democracy in Russia, which the Americans did not even try to hide.

Bitcoins, probably, turned out to be one of the most convenient means of feeding all kinds of NGOs and NGOs in our country, so that they could avoid being assigned the status of a “foreign agent” in Russia and without any problems receive foreign funding, telling that they live on donations from their sympathizers. Russians.

And a few days ago it became known that, in addition to America and Europe, it again decided to participate in promoting democracy in our country – another source of funding for Navalny’s team was revealed.
This was the conversation between Semyon Bagdasarov and Associate Professor of the RANEPA Sergei Karnaukhov.

First of all, Bagdasarov said that the “smart voting” system promoted by Navalny’s team is not a creative invention of a Berlin patient, but technology from the CIA manual.

It was with this technology that the “Muslim brothers” came to power in Egypt. So even in such little things
Navalny lied to his supporters, saying that “smart voting” was invented by them. Sergei Karnaukhov confirmed this and said that, unfortunately, for many people participating in protest activities, this was not obvious for a long time. But when those who called for participation in protest actions and coordinated them fled the country and were distributed among different states, forming there the most real centers of attack on Russia, it became obvious to everyone that the Western special services had created even non-oppositionists in our country. with bright faces, dreaming of making the Russian people happy, but real emissaries, that is, agents who carried out well-paid and protected work to attack the constitutional foundations of the Russian Federation.

This did not surprise me at all, as I think it did not surprise you, because for thinking people, Navalny’s destructive activities, cultivating people’s hatred of the authorities and trying to incite them against law enforcement officers in order to force them to retaliate harsh actions, and then try to carry out a coup d’etat, was visible to the naked eye and without any evidence.

Remember how many videos about the “atrocities” of the Russian Guard were posted on the Internet after each protest action. So are our law enforcers really such beasts? Well no. It’s just that the video material about this was submitted in cropped form.

This scheme is often used by schoolchildren who want to persecute an unwanted teacher. First, they behave defiantly in class, be rude, show disrespect or even beat the teacher, and then turn on a recording of the response, which is then posted on the Internet.

The protestors act according to the same simple scheme. Some provoke law enforcement officers by insulting them, throwing various objects or striking them, while journalists from opposition media or other protesters present there are filming when someone is harshly detained, dragged onto buses and allegedly taken to the police department “for nothing”. Then they post these videos on YouYube, showing this “picture” in order to raise a buzz in the West and put pressure on the Russian authorities (they suddenly tremble, Yanukovych flinched), as well as cause even more indignation of people from “injustice”, and try to bring them out to the streets (in Ukraine, this is exactly what happened). Sometimes on the Internet I still came across videos filmed by different people, where the events preceding the arrest were shown.

I repeat that it was not this that surprised me, but something else that surprised me. It turned out that the sponsors who financed all the extremist structures of the Navalnists were our citizens working in foreign embassies. Do not think that they donated money to Navalny from their salaries. They were simply a transmission link that legalized Western funding.

Back in April, at a press conference in Serbia, Sergei Lavrov announced that in response to the unfriendly actions of the United States from now on in their embassy, ??Russian citizens would be prohibited from working as service personnel. To many then it seemed a shallow and toothless revenge, but I thought it was a very logical action. After all, such a ban was supposed to reduce their opportunities for espionage and for influencing the internal political situation in the country.

Agree that out of the many Russian employees working at the US Embassy, ??there will certainly be one or two people who can literally be recruited for “cookies” and, through their mediation, without attracting special attention to this, contact the people they need: oppositionists, representatives of the legislative and the executive branch, employees of various law enforcement agencies, defense scientists or carriers of state secrets.

And the mirror option was also possible, they could specially hire the already recruited persons needed for such mediation, officially employing them for any minor and technical positions in their embassy and paying them a salary.

In fact, it turned out that my assumptions were incomplete and I did not see the full potential of such employees. It turns out that they served not only to maintain secure communication with non-systemic oppositionists, but also provided an opportunity for their covert financing, that is, to transfer money directly from the embassy to them, and the most offensive thing was that this was done without using a cash register and paying taxes. (joke, otherwise you will think that it is serious)

But the second surprise for me was that it turned out to be not only the staff of the American embassy, ??but also the German, French, Danish, Swiss, Spanish, Italian, Canadian, South Korean and New Zealand.

Sergei did not just talk about some employees from these embassies, but gave their names and surnames, which means that this cannot be unverified and unsubstantiated information. Indeed, otherwise, the people named by him can go to court, demanding monetary compensation for the damage caused to reputation.

And since he is not afraid to name them, it means that he has strong evidence of this work of theirs. It turned out that funds were donated directly from these embassies for the activities of Navalny’s structures. And it was these citizens working in the embassies who passed them on. In total, there are 99 sponsors of Navalny, 49 of them worked at the German Embassy.

It also turned out that representatives of diplomatic missions of Great Britain, Israel, Canada, employees of the embassies of the Netherlands, the Republic of Korea, Ireland, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Singapore and South Africa have registered on the site of “smart voting”.

In addition to these donors, there are ten more people who do not work in embassies, but are employees of NGOs and the media, who now have the status of “foreign agents”, and this suggests that our law enforcement officers have not yet suppressed this multi-headed hydra – NGOs. Under the guise of freedom of speech, these people literally dig the earth in order to find negative moments in the vastness of Russia and present them to people, purposefully undermining the people’s confidence in the authorities. The status of “foreign agent”, of course, deprives them of some part of their income due to the lack of advertising, but it allows them to conduct their subversive activities, because financing from their Western sponsors will continue.

You are probably wondering how our law enforcement agencies will react to this information and what will they do with respect to the citizens of the Russian Federation who support extremist and anti-state activities in Russia for “Western cookies”?

It turns out that there is no way. Since the attempt to carry out the “Snow Revolution” in 2011, our benevolent government has not bothered to criminalize anti-state activities, for which in the very countries for which “our” citizens work, they can give a term from 10 years to life. And even now they can, without fear of criminal prosecution, continue to carry out their subversive activities, because the most terrible punishment they face for this is the status of a foreign agent.

I hope that after the publication of these data, our deputies will seriously concern themselves with this problem, because in Russia they can almost officially work for the collapse of the country, in fact, recruited agents, without fear of being accused of high treason, because their activities do not fall under this definition, and there is no other article of the Criminal Code, according to which they could be involved, for example, this: “Activities damaging the national security of Russia” does not exist.

Perhaps, after my words, someone will think that I am ready to shut up any media that criticizes the authorities.
But this is far from the case. In my opinion, there must be media outlets that do not sing the praises of the authorities.

Moreover, we on our portal, although we support the authorities, but also sometimes criticize them. You remember that I have repeatedly pointed out serious problems in migration policy and the lack of effective leverage by the state on retail prices .

But I believe that the media should criticize the authorities constructively, calmly and reasonably proving their point of view, and be objective. And objectivity lies in the fact that they should not only collect all the negative, encouraging and charging people with them, but also show the other side – the success of the authorities.

And if I see that a certain media outlet does nothing day after day that it seeks out negativity and problems in the country, throwing them out on citizens, that it cultivates in people a feeling of dissatisfaction with life and creates a persistent feeling that lawlessness is taking place everywhere in Russia and is dominating injustice that deliberately does not report on achievements, successes and other positive events, then it immediately becomes clear to me that it is conducting well-paid anti-state activities aimed at replacing the authorities that are objectionable to the West and protecting our national interests.

Perhaps the government underestimates the threat posed by these biased media and the “opposition”, but for illustration I will give an everyday example.

How does a mother-in-law usually act to upset her son’s marriage to an unwanted daughter-in-law? She begins to look for all sorts of flaws in her and day after day drip on her son’s brains, presenting them in an exaggerated form. She calls her bad words: dirty, clumsy, squandering and the like, ridicules the words spoken to her, and when her son tries to resist and look for dignity, the mother looks for bad in these virtues. If the son is not strong enough, then over time he is imbued with a feeling of dissatisfaction with his wife, and if earlier he did not attach importance to minor flaws, seeing many advantages, then the daily absorbed poison acts and irritation begins to accumulate in him, which at one point leads to a break in family.

Well, this is exactly what the emissaries funded by the West in Russia are doing, spitting on the authorities and presenting everything and always in a negative light, finding even good flaws.

For example, remember how much mud was poured at the 2014 Olympics that we held in Sochi. They just took the plus sign and changed it to a minus sign. In chorus they ridiculed that the Winter Olympics were being held in the subtropics, they showed that it was extremely expensive, saying that Putin “squandered” the people’s money, as if forgetting that the money went far not only to the construction of sports facilities, but to the development of a tourist cluster on the coast … The infrastructure of Sochi and Adler was completely replaced, roads, tunnels, bridges, electrical substations and much more were built, which made it possible to make comfortable resorts out of these cities.

Therefore, there should be no place for such media outlets in our information field, even with the stigma of a “foreign agent” or without it, because, as we are convinced, some “our” opposition liberal media still manage to hide foreign funding in fairly simple ways.

PS Often, our “light-faced” people on various talk shows reproach Putin for the fact that we, Russians, are not liked in the West, they are hated in the post-Soviet countries, allegedly because we somehow behave incorrectly. In fact, the point is different. Resources and energy will soon come to the fore in the life of mankind. And our country is in the most advantageous position: we have a large territory, a lot of fresh water, forests, minerals and everything else. Now take a look at the map.

The black arrow points to an area where 514,660,583 people live, including British citizens, and where, accordingly, there are few forests, minerals, practically no oil and gas, and the red arrow points to a country where 145,975,300 people live, who, according to In the opinion of the first, they undeservedly own such a huge territory and all kinds of resources – almost the entire periodic table. That is why we can earn their love only in one case, if we commit “suicide” and fall apart into a bunch of small principalities at war with each other. Then they will help both of them to quickly destroy each other and liberate the territory.
In the meantime, in order to at least get an appendage of raw materials obedient to their will, and not a competitor, they are promoting democracy in Russia, feeding the opposition and NGOs.

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