Translated by Sasha and subtitled by Leo.
One of the pieces of former Yugoslavia, the Republic of North Macedonia has decided to join the leap against Russia. This geopolitical misfortune expelled a Russian diplomat and, having heard from Moscow about reciprocal measures, they shrieked: “Daddy, don’t beat me!”
Do you know what the European solidarity is? It is when the spiritual midgets who owe their existence to the Western “divide and conquer” style policies are forced to service their masters by feigning a crowd scene of a russophobic heat. Just like the Czechs, for example. The Czechs at least have some production industry, albeit completely bought out by the Germans. What does the North Macedonia have, who even had to change its country name so the Greeks would allow it to join the EU and NATO? Nothing. Except, of course, the conceit and the will to serve its bright faced masters. The Macedonians did the service by expelling a Russian diplomat and now they squeal not to be retaliated against.
The Moscow Komsomolets: “The North Macedonian authorities admitted that they have only two diplomats working in Moscow. Those are the interim ambassador and one more diplomatic staff. According to the Foreign Minister of North Macedonia, Buyar Osmani, due to this circumstance Skopje hopes that Moscow will not expel one or two of the Macedonian diplomats in retaliation for the Balkan state’s move.”
Who said that weakness of the mind is courage? You damn Muscovites, don’t understand zilch in European solidarity. North Macedonia itched to get into NATO and EU precisely in order to ecstatically fulfill orders from the respectable Brussels masters.
The Moscow Komsomolets: “The union with NATO is based on an active contribution and solidarity. As Osmani stressed, ‘the expulsion process is tied directly to the violations of the rules of diplomacy.’”
What rules did the Russian diplomat violate? No information about it whatsoever was publicly voiced. They expelled, that’s it. Because the NATO master ordered so. He needs a crowd scene. And now the lackeys that satisfied the master’s need, squeal: “Daddy, don’t beat me!” Why do they, in the post-Soviet Eastern Europe, resemble each other like clones, huh? I have a version about this. During the centuries of either German or Ottoman conquest, the western and the southern Slavs learned to survive in any way. They became shifty and two-faced.
Their main principle is to keep their backside warm. In their mass they are not ready to suffer any sacrifices in a fight for freedom. To which the history of Czechia, for instance, is a testimony. Do you remember that in 1939 there was only one officer who, in defiance of the order from his cowardly politicians, ordered his unit to fight the Wehrmacht? Marina Tsvetayeva even dedicated a poem to him, whose title stresses the fact that this officer was the only one in the entire Czechia.
All in all, the North Macedonians are the typical representatives of the timeserving culture. Even the Bulgarians, who are becoming extinct as a result of the Euro integration, are trolling now.
The Moscow Komsomolets: “The readers of the Bulgarian news publication ‘Facts’ commented expressing their indignation at the news about the expulsion of a Russian diplomat by North Macedonia. They called the Macedonians ‘ungrateful’. One reader said that the Macedonians are russophobes. He pointed out that the Soviet Union gave those people a language, religion and ‘made them a nation’. Another author doubted that the Russian president would be able to find Macedonia on the map, alluding to its small size. He also expressed his hope that Putin had acquired a new map because he would not be able to find it on the old one. Some pointed out ironically that this shows that the Macedonians rather belong to the Bulgarian nation. Another reader noted that to bet on North Macedonia is the same as dealing with the Ukrainians.”
Indeed, that Euro Ukies belong to the same type. This is why when they howl that “we will never be brothers” they make a point. Lackeys of the West cannot be brothers to the Russian people. This is unequivocal. No matter how our Foreign Ministry reacts to the Macedonian escapade, the very fact that this NATO service staff whined in “we shat on your doorstep but you wouldn’t chastise us for that, right?” style has already harmed Skopje more than a reciprocal expulsion of her two diplomats. Dignity – this is what is the most important in geopolitics. You might be a small and an unimportant country, but if you keep your dignity, even the nuclear states will treat you with respect. Lackeys, however, will never understand this.
¿En donde está Macedonia del Norte?..
Google translation,MOD:
Where is North Macedonia? ..
To the North of the South.
So, the Quislings of North Macedonia have voided their bladder on our freshly shined boots and then squeal like a stuck pig after the fact? Mayhap they should have whined to their erstwhile managers before the fact. Now the fact is there is a puddle around our boots and a toll will be paid for such foolishness which I am sure will be accompanied by much whining from the rest of the sycophants in the rump entity of eu. A pox on the lot of them, the sooner eu collapses, the better.
Auslander
Yes, it is a disgrace. North Macedonia did everything that West demanded from them during and after disintegration of Yugoslavia. And as a result they are in much worse position then Serbia which resisted at every step of the way. North Macedonia is very depended from the West now. Their economy practically doesn’t exist. And if Slavic part of population doesn’t follow the orders, West can easily inflame Albanian part of population at any time against Macedonian Slavs…
” … During the centuries of either German or Ottoman conquest, … the southern Slavs learned to survive in any way. They became shifty and two-faced… ”
Yes, there was a lot of history in the Balkans. But not all groups are so two-faced. When it comes to Russia, it could (and can) always count on Serbs.
Dear Ruslan, did you know back in 1939 there were a lot of polish officers fighting the “russian” red army?
Excuse, which do you mean, fighting the Russian army or fighting IN the russian army?
“You might be a small and an unimportant country, but if you keep your dignity, even the nuclear states will treat you with respect.”
Opponents are often at their most vulnerable when they believe they are “winning”, whilst all are rendered spectators by believing in “winning”, thereby facilitating drowning a drowning man with the minimum of blowback with the complicity of opponents, whilst increasing the albatross population.
RE: MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT
Attempted dance steps from
It’s a Nikolai Patrushev-Yang Jiechi world
RE MagdaTam on June 03, 2021 · at 12:43 am EST/EDT
“Some seek to assign agencies and significances to themselves that others do not, whilst those reliant on binaries are at least myopic and restricted in options through enmazement in linear frames. “
VIA
RE: RE: JJ on June 02, 2021 · at 12:41 pm EST/EDT
“Biden v Putin might not occur…”
“If you wish to rely on the “great men” of history concept, perhaps Biden v Biden would prove more illuminating.
If you wish to clarify further perhaps the continuing interactions of coercive social relations and cooperative social relations would prove more illuminating, thereby dispensing with “v”, “might not” and speculations derived therefrom, thereby increasing cogency?”
Hence the hopes of some are rendered other’s opportunities of useful foolery with the complicity of some: whilst the wishes of some became/become ultra vires, as was/is the case of attempted “colour revolutions” in Russia and elsewhere facilitating processes of lateral transcendence, within which variables include, but are not limited to, trajectories and velocities. “
VIA
MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT
“Opponents are often at their most vulnerable when they believe they are “winning”, whilst all are rendered spectators by believing in “winning”, thereby facilitating drowning a drowning man with the minimum of blowback with the complicity of opponents, whilst increasing the albatross population. “
To
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/06/switzerland-cancels-putin-biden-summit.html#comments
All in illustration of attempting to tango encourages some to fall over their own feet/(attempted feats).
RE: MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT
““Opponents are often at their most vulnerable when they believe they are “winning”, whilst all are rendered spectators by believing in “winning”, thereby facilitating drowning a drowning man with the minimum of blowback with the complicity of opponents, whilst increasing the albatross population. “
Another example:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/06/03/belarus-eager-punished-for-downing-ryanair-flight-and-nabbing-opposition-blogger/
“Kiev found a hero in Stepan Bandera not because of any successes he had, because he had none, but because of his death, assassinated by the evil Russians making him a martyr. “
Journalists and “their” audience who think they carry Marshal’s batons in their rucksacks are often left in foothills of we the people hold these truths to be self-evident, thereby precluding explorations of questions which some deem as “best not explored.”
Questions in this instance include but are not restricted to:
1. Why Munich?
2. What was the extent of the facilitators?
3. What ever happened to Mr. Mitrione ?
RE: MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 5:51 am EST/EDT
““Opponents are often at their most vulnerable when they believe they are “winning”, whilst all are rendered spectators by believing in “winning”, thereby facilitating drowning a drowning man with the minimum of blowback with the complicity of opponents, whilst increasing the albatross population. “
Another example:
https://www.rt.com/russia/525639-belarusian-state-tv-protasevich-interview/
RE: MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 5:51 am EST/EDT
“Journalists and “their” audience who think they carry Marshal’s batons in their rucksacks are often left in foothills of we the people hold these truths to be self-evident ….”
Whilst not all are journalists.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/525606-al-qaeda-jonathan-powell-meet/
Is this some kind of elaborate trolling what you are doing here? Adding scroll length to the comment section, overlong comments with an illegible layout, replying to yourself again and again, repeating yourself several times… I don’t know what this is supposed to be but it is not helpful.
@Olivier
I have also been riled up about the spam bots posting unintelligible word salads here under various nicks such as ”Magda Tam” and, previously, ”Olya Polya”. This kind of forum degradation is slightly less abominable than outright offending blog barfs, but conscious trolling it is absolutely. Even though the algorithms at the disposal of the site’s moderation team don’t find anything specifically worth censoring in the contents, the obvious spamming with several successive submissions within a short time period, including responding to previous ”contributions” should be recognized and acted upon instantly.
I know Macedonians. They are not rusophobes, but opposite most of them love Russia.
They are in very difficult position and situation and existence of their state depend on the West.
They are exposed to three radical nationalisms that surround them and each of them wish to erase Macedonia from the map – Greeks, Albanians and Bulgarians.
With Northern neighbours Serbs they do not have too many political problems but Serbian Ortodhox Church do not recognise Macedonian Church and Macedonian nation.
They were happiest in Yugoslavia which they really loved very much.
Macedonians are really misfortunate people they depend on the West and Russia cannot help them …
So I think that Russia should forgive Macedonians this diplomatic action because they were probably forced to do that. And they government is puppet to the West.
They do not have choice.
Macedonian Church is not recognised by any Orthodox Church as it was created by UDBA (communist secret services) after WW2 to weaken Serbian corpus.
You Serbs … this is one of reasons you are in conflict with all other ethnic groups of ex Yugoslavia.
Macedonian Church is not recognized because Serbian Church is blocking recognition of it among Ortodhox churches.
It is Serbian nationalism and imperialism toward Macedonian people.
And that UDBA (EX Yugoslav communist secret police) created Macedonian Church is uter idiotism.
Macedonian Church wad created because Macedonian people wanted their own church
Macedonian Ortodhox people were part of Serbian Church till 1967
It was consequence of position of Macedonians in Kingdom of Yugoslavia which was under absolute Serbian domination and Macedonians did not have any rights and were not recognized at all as separate natonality.
After war in socialist Yugoslavia as recognized nationality they created their church and Macedonians 100% supported that.
I do not understand why Serbs do that to Macedonians. Shame.
Macedonians are our brothers… brothers of us peoples from ex Yugoslavia.
People they never did any harm to anyone.
Bosnian Croat is off on his morbid rant, completely devoid of facts as usual.. :
It is not the Serbian Orthodox Church but the Ecumenical Patriarch ie. GREEK Church which is blocking Macedonian autocephaly.
https://balkaninsight.com/2018/10/18/macedonia-church-receives-cold-shower-from-constantinople-10-18-2018/
As for the Yugoslav “brotherhood” you keep fawning over, your comments here are an apt demonstration of how it never existed…
Oh come on, do not make me laugh.
Ecumenical Patriarch is blocking Macedonian Church because Serbian Church used its influence to block it.
If you think that everyone is stupid you have been mistaken.
RE: Bosnian Croat on June 04, 2021 · at 11:33 am EST/EDT
“Oh come on, do not make me laugh.
If you think that everyone is stupid you have been mistaken. “
Resort to emotionalism encourages resort to ideology including but not limited to the great men of history illustrated below :
“Is she really going out with him ?
I don’t know let’s ask her
Betty is that Jimmy’s ring you’re wearing?
Uh huh.
Where’d you meet him ?
I met him at the candy store: he turned around and looked at me,
You get the picture?
Yes we see.
That’s when I fell for the leader of the pack”.
Leading to
“It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to; die if I want to
You would cry too , if it happened to you.”
Since omniscience does not exist except as an ideological construct of belief, to some degree all are “ill informed”, which some attempt to characterise as “stupid” in hope of encouraging others’ attempts to attain conformance with we the people hold these truths to be self-evident; pledging allegiance to the wall is not deemed an optional extra.
First of all, thank you Bosnian Croat for your honest and accurate comments. You obviously understand the history and plight of the Macedonian people and as a Macedonian I appreciate your kind words and support.
As for the others, you have no right to say there is no such thing as the Macedonian Orthodox Church. Whether it is recognized or not, it exists. The Macedonian people know it exists and don’t need others to tell us what we are or aren’t. Worry about your own backyard of which you have many problems and not to be too much proud of for that matter.
At the same time, yes, Macedonians as a majority love Russia. The traitorous dogs we have in government certainly do not represent the majority of the people. The governments of the other ex-Yugoslav republics are certainly no better as was Yeltsin and his cronies in 90’s Russia.
The Macedonian people are tired. Like the Kurds, the Palestinians and other downtrodden people, we’ve had enough of corruption, poverty and bullying by our neighbors. When you don’t have the means to fight back, you eventually give up but it’ll take a while. We’ve been in our land of Macedonia for thousands of years and intend to stay for thousands more.
And by the way, regardless of what the dogs of our government have agreed to the name of our country is Macedonia not North Macedonia as are the lands in Greek, Bulgarian and Albanian occupied Macedonia.
Makedonia,
Your compatriot, Jovan Vraniskovsky, who is the Archbishop of Ohrid in Macedonia has chosen to remain as part of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
This has de facto split the Macedonian Church between those who wish to remain (as part of the Serbian Church) and those who wish to apply for autocephaly.
The is not a problem of the Serbian Church nor of the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople. This is YOUR problem that needs to be solved between YOUR people.
I am surprised that someone with a name like yours seems so oblivious to this internal struggle…? Surely you are aware that Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid has been imprisoned..?
Your knowledge about Orthodox church is mildly said shallow and incorrect so especially as a Croat/presumably roman catholic alt agnostic you should abstain from commenting about disputes within orthodox world.
About no harm: Macedonia has jailed Serbian orthodox preaches, don’t allow them to wear their religious wardrobes, prevent them to enter the country and is harassing them as much as they can.
It has also supported occupying Serbian churches in Macedonia by the non-canonical church.
It is mostly Macedonia and their mixed Bulgarian/Macedonian/Albanian nationalists with state power that are hostile towards the friendly Serbs and Serbian Orthodox church. Not the other way around.
In 1967 under the communist rule you can hardly claim legitimacy of any decision regarding religion especially regarding constitution of the new orthodox church.
Well, Serbs are not in conflict with anyone in the former Yugoslavia. The artificial nations created all around the Serbs are in conflict with said Serbs attacking and accusing Serbs for all and every evil under the Sun supported by any and all foreign coloniser encroaching the territory looking to divide and conquer, not unlike the analogy with Sherkan and Tabaki fittingly used by President Putin recently.
That being said, I definitely support anyone’s right to be whatever they want to be. The problem is that the new identities of the former Yugoslavia always go against the one out of which they were carved. The same principal applies for the Russian world. Their inability to create a new identity without illegal cultural appropriation or destruction of the original one is sad and tragic for all of us. Famous Serb writer of Muslim background Mehmed Mesa Selimovic beautifully wrote about it in his books. This process has been almost completed on the territory now called Croatia, mostly completed in what is now Bosnia and Herzegovina but can be observed live in Montenigeria, occupied Kosovo or Ukraine, all NATO-supported entities.
Also, I highly recommend the recent series of posts about genocides against the Slavs published on this blog by Ken.
Most Macedonians, just like most Serbs, love Russia. Macedonians made however their biggest mistake by ceasing from Yugoslavia in the early 1990ties instead of sticking to what was still remaining from it. The result is a failed state that is threatened by almost all its neighbors, from the inside by an Albanian minority strengthened by the West, and of course the biggest threat and obstacle to its independence: the NATO occupation troops on its soil. The only viable future for Macedonia is to be attached to Serbia as an autonomous province, but it is far from happening since Macedonia underwent a colored revolution in 2016 and has since then a puppet regime ready to do anything to please its Western masters. So unfortunately, the future doesn’t look bright for the poor, small Macedonia.
RE: Bosnian Croat on June 04, 2021 · at 4:05 am EST/EDT
“They are not rusophobes, but opposite most of them love Russia.”
Some spectators are of the view that some don’t know and hence it is their responsibility to “educate” them.
That was evangelised by some, and practiced by some others, in various attempted “colour revolutions” including in the CIS and the Russian Federation during the 1990’s facilitating the ongoing tlateral process of transcendence of “The Soviet Union” by the CIS and subsequently the Russian Federation with the complicity of the opponents whom were rendered spectators as illustrated by contemporary examples below, since they believed and continue to believe that the Russian Federation will “react” as they would did/do.
RE: MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT
Attempted dance steps from
It’s a Nikolai Patrushev-Yang Jiechi world
RE MagdaTam on June 03, 2021 · at 12:43 am EST/EDT
“Some seek to assign agencies and significances to themselves that others do not, whilst those reliant on binaries are at least myopic and restricted in options through enmazement in linear frames. “
VIA
RE: RE: JJ on June 02, 2021 · at 12:41 pm EST/EDT
“Biden v Putin might not occur…”
“If you wish to rely on the “great men” of history concept, perhaps Biden v Biden would prove more illuminating.
If you wish to clarify further perhaps the continuing interactions of coercive social relations and cooperative social relations would prove more illuminating, thereby dispensing with “v”, “might not” and speculations derived therefrom, thereby increasing cogency?”
Hence the hopes of some are rendered other’s opportunities of useful foolery with the complicity of some: whilst the wishes of some became/become ultra vires, as was/is the case of attempted “colour revolutions” in Russia and elsewhere facilitating processes of lateral transcendence, within which variables include, but are not limited to, trajectories and velocities. “
VIA
MagdaTam on June 04, 2021 · at 3:39 am EST/EDT
“Opponents are often at their most vulnerable when they believe they are “winning”, whilst all are rendered spectators by believing in “winning”, thereby facilitating drowning a drowning man with the minimum of blowback with the complicity of opponents, whilst increasing the albatross population. “
To
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/06/switzerland-cancels-putin-biden-summit.html#comments
All in illustration of attempting to tango encourages some to fall over their own feet/(attempted feats).
There is always a choice, are they men?
So, Ruslan, (and I would really want Ruslan to answer me this question),
If it is all about the dignity, where was Russian dignity in 90’s when they voted in UN for establishing sanctions over Serbia? Where was your dignity at that time?
Was Russia equally weak as North Macedonia now? Or is there some difference between these two states and their strength and position, even at that time and in that situation?
So, is Serbia maybe equal to Russia?
And yet positioned where we are and in a situation that is objectively what it is, we did not join sanctions over Russia. Go back to 90’s and remember that Russia not only voted for sanctions over Serbia but did much worse things that directly influenced later tragedy of Serbian people.
Remember Chernomyrdin’s behavior and remember Russian entering Slatina airport at Kosovo and Metohija, leaving it even faster, remember the story about S-300 and so on…
So if situation and condition of Russian state at that time can serve as justification, why the same can not be applied to North Macedonia?
Aren’t these same double-standards that we got used to being applied by west?
This Russian staggering in new semi-imperialistic role is pissing me off much more that western imperialistic arrogance.
RE: Путник Р. on June 04, 2021 · at 4:45 am EST/EDT
“If it is all about the dignity..”
Spectators perceive dignity whilst practitioners perceive and test utilty, as the “North Macedonians” are doing with the understanding that the “Russians” have done/will do.
Spectators tend to rely on short evaluation horizons whilst practitioners consider longer evaluation horizons.
Spectators rely on hope of absolutes including perfection whilst practitioners consider assays, trajectories and velocities due to their understanding derived from continuous evaluation of implemented strategies that absolutes including perfection can never exist.
Practitioners tend to communicate through various forms of implementation, where as spectators tend to be immersed in greater reliance on “interpretations” including those of fellow spectators.
Yes. And Medvedev abstained in the UN Security Council (along with China) when the West decided to destroy the most popular government, among its own people, in Africa…Libya. The stain of this shameful, cowardly act runs deep for the Russians, in my humble opinion.
Well, late Muammar Gaddafi signed his own death penalty after he had yielded with the West. He transferred his billions to France naively expecting that he was going to be able to pay for West’s love. Had he deposited 47 billion (the money Sarkozy stole and used portion of it to pay NATO and Americans to bomb Libya) in a Russian bank, he would have still be alive. He was never a Soviet/Russian aligned statesman. He was let to exists due to the Cold War. Same as Yugoslavia, Libya, a buffer country, collapsed as soon as the geopolitics shifted.
RE: Sarcophilus on June 04, 2021 · at 9:33 am EST/EDT
RE: Marko Original on June 04, 2021 · at 4:44 pm EST/EDT
“Yes. And Medvedev abstained in the UN Security Council (along with China) when the West decided to destroy the most popular government, among its own people, in Africa…Libya. “
“Well, late Muammar Gaddafi signed his own death penalty after he had yielded with the West. “
Mr. Guevara forgot to pack his medicine, was complicit in the destruction of some of his associates,and was rendered a T-shirt logo and “icon” for some, facilitating Operation Condor.
Spectators rely on hope including that the meek will inherit the earth as a consequence of the efforts of others thereby precluding blowback to spectators,
Some spectators rely on illusions/parables that ninety nine sheep will be left to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune whilst priority will be given to recovering one lost sheep.
Spectators tend to rely on short evaluation horizons whilst practitioners consider longer evaluation horizons.
Practitioners ponder questions such as “How to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback” on the understanding that no blowback is not an option.
Some practitioners understand that supporting those with suicidal tendencies is counter productive.
Hence “How (interactions in) St. Petersburg (and elsewhere) are mapping the Eurasian Century” which some seek to interpret as “Russian imperialism”.
”This Russian staggering in new semi-imperialistic role is pissing me off much more that western imperialistic arrogance”
I’m glad to hear you say that. Russia in the 90s was on the verge of total collapse and couldn’t do much about triumphant Western imperialism’s rampaging around the globe. Along came Putin and Russia’s enemies at home and abroad were increasingly ”pissed off” as their setbacks and defeats steadily grew bigger and more significant as did Russia’s resolve and perspicacity. Unless something completely unforeseen happens with regard to Russia’s leadership, your mood will be a steadily more unhappy one with each passing day. Enjoy!
This seems to be the direction Russia is going now……SOCHI, June 1. /TASS/. Relations with former Soviet countries are among Moscow’s foreign policy priorities, Russian President Vladimir Putin said during a video conference meeting with the permanent members of the country’s Security Council on Tuesday. “Relations with our closest neighbors, the former Soviet countries, are among Russia’s most important foreign policy priorities,” the president pointed out.
In Syria they have their Kurds, in Northern Macedonia they have their Albanians…….just in case!
Good analogy between the two nomadic tribes! Although I believe the Albanians are much more servile to the US /AZ interests than the Kurds.
There is a lot of racism here against South Slavs. No need to resort to that. Not every nation has 100 million inhabitants. Considering that, South Slavs have no les heroic history then Russians- who were themselves massively traded as slaves in Tatar Khanat. And yes, I am kind of pro Russian guy, I just dont like that Ruslan character😀.
First of all the name North Macedonia as a name for the country is a load of crap, as far as I’m concerned it’s Macedonia.
Second as disappointing as it is, what can Macedonia do, they’re a small population in an area of the Balkans that’s explosive.
The West much like in Bosnia have the Islamist radicals ingrained in the population ready to do whatever is necessary to put down any Slavic resistance.
So they try to survive the best they can do in an ugly situation, and if they could turn back the clock they would probably prefer to be in a Slavic union which was Yugoslavia.
Thank you Boz from Oz. Truer words never said.
So uplifting to read honest comments like this where truth overpowers bias and ignorance. Good on you mate.
“Who said that weakness of the mind is courage?”
“According to the Foreign Minister of North Macedonia, Buyar Osmani..”
Buyar Osmani is not Macedonian. He is Albanian.
What this shows is that Macedonia is being taken over by US and their loyal “Gheg” Albanian lackeys (Ghegs are nomadic Muslim tribes who move freely between Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia).
Since 2019, Albanian became an official language and Macedonian politicians have been side-lined in favor of Albanians (like this fellow, Bujar Osmani)
The Russians hopefully understand that this is not the Macedonians but rather a US /Albanian take over of their country.
@ Serbian girl
Oh, they do understand perfectly.
Frankly, I do not see any loss for Macedonians in Russia if they stay without “benefits” of being represented by Gheg approved diplomats.
Another incredible instance of the concept Honorary Euro-trash. If the (real) Euro-trash in Brussels — for the mere fun of it — were to tell this pseudo-statelet that
they would do as told with the Euro-trash laughing themselves silly. Stupid is as stupid does.
”Do you know what the European solidarity is? It is when the spiritual midgets who owe their existence to the Western ’divide and conquer’ style policies are forced to service their masters by feigning a crowd scene of a russophobic heat /…/ What does the North Macedonia have, who even had to change its country name so the Greeks would allow it to join the EU and NATO? Nothing.”
Well, I suppose the Albanian mafia could turn North Macedonia into something like Kosovo: NATO bases accompanied by drug and organ trafficking. Fits ”European values/solidarity” to a T. In the end, this ”geopolitical misfortune” will be entirely depopulated like so many other similar fiefdoms in Eastern Europe. Hell, even a huge territorial entity such as Ukraine is bound to become a gaping void — unless Soros decides to keep the nonsense going by settling Third World immigrants/refugees there.
It’s already happened. The country has already joined NATO.
Next step: Unification with Kosovo & Albania to create Greater Albania.
Meanwhile, the Macedonians on this blog are ranting about Serbian and Greek hegemony over their Macedonian Church.
Maybe they need to visit Kosovo to see what Albanians do to churches once they gain total control (which they will very soon).
In Communist times a joke was circulating: Q: ‘What is the peak of insolence’? A: ‘To shit on someone’s doorstep and then ringing to ask for toilet paper’!
Once western money drains, Serbia will wipeout all artificially created countries on serbian lands.
What benefits have all the Eastern European countries realised by jumping to NATO’s commands and condemning, accusing and provoking Russia in every way possible? Since they were all saved from total occupation by Nazi Germany and probably thorough ethnic cleansing only by Russian intervention in World War II, their actions strike me as the the height of both ingratitude and stupidity. Just what has the West given them in terms of the kind of “free stuff” that Washington’s true chums like Israel receives routinely?
Washington’s standard response to their kow-towing is merely to bellyache that none of these countries spend enough of their GDP on American armaments or nuclear missile batteries which put their countries at risk of being immediately blown off the map if Uncle Sam ever goes totally rogue and starts World War III. I see nothing in it for these people to justify their constant sucking up to America. What hallucinated notions does Washington successfully implant in the minds of these people to get them to so dutifully and reliably act against their own interests and long-term survival as independent nations? Why choose to be a pawn of an arrogant world power that, frankly, disrespects and abuses you? Even Serbia, raped as it was by America and its NATO vassals, is still eager to join the EU. Talk about a bad case of the “Stockholm Syndrome.” I’d tell Eastern Europe, take a gander at the Middle East. That’s you–scorched earth, shattered economy and endless occupation–if you keep writing blank checks and selling out your people to the maniacs in Washington.
” … Even Serbia … eager to join the EU… ”
Don’t worry, it will not happen. These EU – Serbia negotiations are just pretending, from both sides.
Serbia is buying time, waiting that geopolitical situation change.
Hi all
Macedonia is going through extremely difficult times. It is under existential threat from Greece, Bulgaria and Albania.
In 2015 John Kerry stated Macedonia was in the line of fire. In 2016/2017 the conservative government was toppled through a colour revolution called .. wait for it .. the Colour Revolution (sharena revolucija).
Macedonians under the current puppet government barely exist in totally corrupt anti Macedonian fascist regime, run by Albanians and criminal social democrat Macedonians. Judicial system is system is like in the Ottoman or communist era, media completely silenced. Opposition constantly under pressure and thretened with made up criminal charges.
Foreign policy is a joke. Foreign minister Albanian, taking daily orders from the umbrella. Dont be surprised if Macedonia makes hostile statements against Russia.
Why Macedonians dont react? Because everyone is under threat, either for job securoty or simply for fear security services will dream up allegations.
I live here and tell you its unreal what is going on here. And we are locked in from all sides.
Macedonians have always been on the right side of history. This time we are afraid that’s not the case and there isn’t much people can do about it. And we are going to lose our country and be peacefully exterminated in the process.
Greetings from the geopolitical hellhole in SE Europe.
while the expelling of Russian diplomats by the Macedonian government is a shameful act and a disgrace, it is not very surprising either. i think that the fate of a small state is to serve a bigger state. in this case Macedonia has chosen to serve the West and gets some benefits from it, like participation in EU-funded projects as well as direct investments.
i believe, like probably most of the people on this forum, that the West is in terminal phase and would have loved if Macedonia (and other Balkan states) could turn their head towards Russia.
however, people from Macedonia that i have talked to ask “ok, but what has Russia done to make this happen? at least the West/EU gives us some assistance and offers a prospect for future integration. there is nothing comparable coming out of Russia”
There are only three truly sovereign countries in the world (Russia, US, China) and to a lesser extent Iran, North Korea (sorry if I missed someone; and israel does not count, being a parasite on its US host).
All the others are subservient to one of the big three.
Mr Ostashko may want to take a look at countries like France or Germany, whose vassalage to the US is much more surprising than that of Macedonia.
Even the Serbian “братья” (brothers) are now wooing the EU, as did the Bulgarian “братушки” (pretend brothers)
” … Serbian “братья” (brothers) are now wooing the EU … ”
Don’t worry, that will not happen.
After NATO ” reformed” Serb economy in 1999 there was nothing else possible than to “cooperate” with the EU.
Both sides are just pretending in these negotiations:
– EU \ NATO knows very well that they can never trust the Serbs. Especially when it comes to conflict with
Russia…
– And Serbia is just buying time waiting for the geo-political change…
Let’s hope so. The other day Ivica Dacic President of the Serbian Parliament with a nice Croatian name went to the Duma and proclaimed Serbia’s strategic goal is EU integration. Now, he is either exceptionally stupid and without manners or incredibly sarcastic to say this in the Duma of all places. Didn’t he hear Macron and the other EU apparatchiks saying that the EU enlargement has been stopped? Plus, to be in the EU you have to be in NATO as the EU is it’s political arm.
But still Serbia had to be bombed into oblivion by our NATO “partners” to behave like this while the rest of the shit hole countries of the region willingly prostrated themselves and are competing with each other who will spat on Russia more even though they owe their existence to Russia.
I wish to add that a large number of Macedonians were actively against the NATO aggression against Serbia in 1999. They even physically attacked the NATO troops in Macedonia on number of occasions. Macedonians (not those of pro Bulgarian and Albanian inclination who are against the Serbs and Russians and pro Croatian) are a decent and brave people and while their politicians are scum who helped” Macedonia make the wrong choice every time in the last 30 years I wish them all the best and hope they prevail as tough times are upon all of us.
RE: kururuku padoma on June 05, 2021 · at 5:00 am EST/EDT
“i believe, like probably most of the people on this forum, that the West is in terminal phase and would have loved if Macedonia (and other Balkan states) could turn their head towards Russia.”
It appears you are unaware of the purposes of the Russian Federation and hence you rely on interpretations of your own projections.
The opponents’ offer is, do you want to be in my gang with varying degrees of coercion ?
The offer of the Russian Federation and its associates is, do you want to be yourself at some point with the option of co-operating with us if we agree to co-operate?
Your belief/interpretation does appear popular with some “people on this forum” perhaps not to the extent of love, and hence in modified form your unsubstantiated belief may have a modicum of validity/utility.
“at least the West/EU gives us some assistance and offers a prospect for future integration. there is nothing comparable coming out of Russia”
USA/NATO/EU gave Macedonia misery and Albanian insurgency, forced it to the current state and now is giving it breadcrumbs from the table promising some more breadcrumbs (on the long stick) if completely subdued.
Head they win, tail you loose.
Even if Russia doesn’t do anything, it is better than what Macedonia got from EU.
And there is an alternative, joining Eurasian trade union. Russia is offering it without any precondition but as we all know EU won’t allow it.
By the way, Russia doesn’t owe anything to Macedonia, hack Macedonia wasn’t even part of the east block.
It is funny how the same behavior though applied by the different states produces completely different interpretations:
EU/USA/NATO is using military and economic force to subdue some country and then the argument is used that that country is too weak and small to resist.
Now when Russia is just expected to retaliate for the hostile action of that country than the argument for not retaliating is that they are doing it because they are forced to it (why wouldn’t Russia force it not to do it?).
Well you can’t have it both ways: you fear the might of the EU/USA/NATO and even arguing that you have some benefits from doing what they ask/force you to do and then when Russia is just mirroring the hostile action you urge for not reacting asking for pity.
So you use fear-factor as an argument for the first action but don’t think fear should be used by the other side as a weapon to discourage you and everybody else in similar situation who is watching your actions.
Stockholm syndrome.
Anyhow, we are looking at different Russia today and Czech Republic just recently discovered it.
Baltic states are more or less in the state of chock by Russian recent years retaliations.
Ukraine and Poland are soon going to experience something similar when they lose gas transport fees.
Closing the airspace for Belarus airplanes will mostly harm EU-countries.
Russian (and Asian) planes are going to continue to fly over Belarus => flights will be less expensive.
Because of the Earth curvature, on the north hemisphere the shortest path is a curved line bend to the north.
By the way, it is the reason why north route is much shorter than route through Suez.
Look at the https://www.flightradar24.com to see usual/current flight corridors.
RE: Хау јес ноу on June 05, 2021 · at 10:19 am EST/EDT
“Baltic states are more or less in the state of chock by Russian recent years retaliations.”
Interpretations based on projections of “expected norms” have utility in facilitating useful foolery.
From the late 1960’s onwards some understood that the Soviet Union was not sustainable and one of the continuing vectors of instability was “ethnic nationalism”.
In respect of areas which were represented by some as pre-Baltika, some inhabitants of pre-Baltika are of the view that they “gained their independence” in 1991 solely through their own efforts, interpreting the events at the Vilnius Television station in 1991 as “Russian retaliation” before the fact, thereby obfuscating the efforts of some to facilitate the “independence” of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia for their own purposes, including but not limited to restricting vectors of instability, including through an agreed moratorium to regularise relations by turning “black” money into white during the period from late 1992 into the Presidency of Mr. Brazauskas from May 1993 onwards.
When “independence” was attained by Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia the myth/narrative of “Russian retaliation” continued to have utility for the maintainance of their “independence”, and by way of various policies including citizenship and language policies, the “independent” states sought to increase the half-lives of such myths/narratives.
The usage of such myths/narratives were not restricted to the Baltic states but continue to be encouraged/used widely by opponents.
Some do don’t assign significances to others that others seek to assign to themselves, whilst “exceptionalists” tend to the view that the “truth” of their significance is self-evident and hence they are always the subjects whose agency always attract reaction/retailiation from the objects of their agency – Mr. Bush’s observation that “They hate our freedom”, and Mr. Rove’s observation that “We are an Empire…….” refer.
Some understand that the illusions of opponents are vectors of their transcendence and hence should not be emulated.
“Because of the Earth curvature, on the north hemisphere the shortest path is a curved line bend to the north.”
Mr. Euclid was a product of his social relations, time and perceptions derived therefrom.
Others who co-operated/co-operate in facilitating the ongoing lateral process of the transcendence of the “Soviet Union” by the CIS and subsequently the Russian Federation are also products of their social relation, time and perceptions derived therefrom, and hence navigate their own purposes, trajectories and velocities, instead of engaging in retaliation – although that is not perceived by all, but by an increasing sum of some.
As outlined above:
“The opponents’ offer is, do you want to be in my gang with varying degrees of coercion ?
The offer of the Russian Federation and its associates is, do you want to be yourself at some point with the option of co-operating with us if we agree to co-operate?”
Firstly, it’s unfortunate North Macedonia has taken this course.
With that out of the way..
I note that the contempt for this small country, by those who, if they are so much better, should know better, continues. Truly, the Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians and Russians have, for a long time, been in a position to do right by the Macedonians; and yet, blinded by the shortsightedness of self-interest, chose to crap on it instead, leaving this poor, land-locked country with little choice but to look to the West for survival. Are not the Macedonians natural allies to the Serbs etc.? Of course they are, and yet what have the latter done for their small, helpless brother, apart from pushing him into the arms of the enemy, and then expecting him not to offend?
What kind of bob-tailed strategy is that?
And if that isn’t strange enough, what about those who laugh at Macedonia for the insiginificant nothing it’s supposed to be? And yet when it does something that doesn’t suit them, all of a sudden it’s important!
Which is it?
For sure, North Macedonia has things to answer for; but I don’t want to see it take all the blame
“Are not the Macedonians natural allies to the Serbs etc.? Of course they are, and yet what have the latter done for their small, helpless brother”
Macedonia has the most often since the starting of break-up of the Yugoslavia chosen the opposite side to the Serbs, though Serbia hasn’t reacted at all to the Macedonian hostile actions.
Macedonia has also recognized Serbian southern province with Albanian majority as independent and Nato has been in and overflying Macedonia during the bombing campaign against Serbia and Montenegro.
I’ve already mentioned hostile actions against the Serbian Orthodox Church.
What a poor choice for an article plased in the saker blog.
It’s not that I read all of them, but I do come hre and read from time to time. More texts I do at least partly like, but there sure are the odd ones inbetween I do not agree with or like.
Nevertheless there is usually something to learn from each article, maybe from this one too.
For sure it is not anything about the Balkan Slavs, their political standing, or their historical backgrounds, which the author seemingly has no idea about whatsoever.
I guess most readers, at least most of the commentators, with a personal background in the Balkans or in the former Yugoslavia, have for sure better insights, and could write better articles themselves about the subject (though often themselves not agreeing among themselves).
What could have been the intention of this article? Obviously to ridicule and shame the Macdonian people, for the action of their politicians, which are subservient to the West (EU, Nato… in the end most would agree this meens to the US and there to the puppetmasters of the deep state… whoever that is).
But why place the article here, where I suppose most readers have better insights than the MSM brainwashed Joe Average? And most here conclude that the Macedonians themselves have very little if any say whatsoever, if some Diplomats from Russia gets expelled. Neither do the Albanians in Macedonia or elswhere in the region, really. Sure these probably mostly see Russia as an enemy, because they fear Russia could support the (Yugo-)Slavs in the Balkans against their interests.
There would obviously be a cost to pay for Macedonians if they dared to decide such things themselfes in the current geopolitical environment.
The Macedonians know this. The Albanians in Macedonia know as well. As does the EU, Nato, the US. Also the cited Bulgarians know this. I am sure the Russian politicians know as well. Everybody does.
Most probably even the author of this article does. Still he wrote it and still the saker placed it here.
If he does, I can only conclude, the author is trying to shame Makedonians, as a small propagandistic effort, with the goal of them choosing and pushing their politicans to adopt a
political stance more in line with Russian interests, which are more often than not also in the (Balkan) Slavians long term interests.
Does Russia, do Russians try to influence us with propaganda? Sure she does/they do, everybody does. Russia currently has the big advantage of being usually way more truthfull and honest in her propagandistic efforts, thus beeing more credible to the people they reach. But she has to fight this information war against the vastly richer western propaganda war machine (MSM, Hollywood, social media…) with a disproportionally bigger reach.
The author of this article should know, that todays Russia simply does not have the capacity, to offer the Balkan Slavs a better short term (mostly economic) development, than these get by accepting the western dictates. Russia currenty could not even protect them. No, not even Putin with today’s more powerfull Russia could have helped Serbia avoid her cataclysm of the 90’s, if he was in place of Jelzin then.
The current sitiuation in the Ukraine, Russias own back yard, gives plenty of evidence for my reasoning.
Even if Russias military is/was powerfull enough, Russia currently still would avoid the political implications, when militarily offering/giving protection to her friendly Balkan peoples.
The Balkan Slavs are geographicaly just too remote for todays Russian possibilities, without direct borders, but a lot of unfriendly neighbours inbetween, so there currently is not a lot Russia can do, to offer the Balkan Slavs help and an alternative development in the near future,… to free themselves from the stranglehold of the western powers.
In that way, beeing honest, one must state that currently Russia IS (apart from its nuclear power) really reduced to just a regional power, Obama was right (as much as this might hurt the Russian pride, nevertheless currently it is true).
Sure Russia can punish the “treason” of some (forced) acts and decisions of the Balkan pawn politicians, e.g. when canceling South Stream, but this is not enough and in the end not really helpful. The potential Russian allies on the Balkan need some positive gain from placing themselves openly behind Russia.
The offered euro/asian economic union is not yet attractive enough. One has also to keep in mind, that most Balkan nations have had a big drain of their more valuable/competent workforce, which mostly emigrated to western Europe (Germany, Austria,…).
A big part of the GDP of all Balkan states comes from money earned and transfered from their diasporas to the respective home countries. This alone is a very big leverage the West holds over the Balkans.
Russia still needs to get stronger, to offer a credible long term alternative to her natural allies. She does indeed gain strength by the day, and the western empire sure seems on a declining slope, but who really knows?
Putin/Russia obviously recognises that Russia still is very much in a defensive position and there is still a lot of strength to be gained, before Russia can economically, politically or maybe even militarily enforce more resolutely her national interests not just regionally and offer protection and help to her Balkan Slavic brotherly nations.
The example done to Serbia will in the short run keep any Balkan politician (of any political colour) in line with the western puppet master requests.
Simple as that.
Everybody not brainwashed by the MSM knows, and will agree if really honest, that after the SU colapsed, and the western powers were obviously using this opportunity, and the decision of “Yugoslavia delendam est” was made,that Serbia was choosen and “punished” as the culprit, as the bad guy, made responsible for all the horrors which happend in the 90’s Balkan wars as happen in all wars. It was chosen to be weakend for a simple reason, for being the most Russophillic people of Yugoslavia, thereby weakening a Serbian successor state of Yugoslavia on the Balkans, thus also Russias position in the Balkans and geopolitically even more after SU collaps.
It for sure were not just the Serbian thugs and of course done atrocities, as claimed by western propaganda, of which there were unfortunatelly too much on all sides. It also is definitly not, that the Western powers like the Croats/Albanians/Bosnian Muslims more than the Serbs. They in reality dont care much for any of them.
I’m sure the Croat/Albanian/Bosnian politicians are/were aware of this, nevertheless they of course used/accepted the help of the West as it was in their short term interest in their fight aginst the Serbs.
Today the West as well knows that the Balkan Slavs still are mostly Russophilic, and will probably stay that way for generations to come. But as shown in the enstrangement of the Serbian/Croat brotherly peoples or as well with the Russians/Ukrainians, this could change after enough time seperated in different environments. As seen, these “brothers and sisters” can then even be pushed into cruel wars/atrocities against each other.
So while currently keeping political tight control in the Balkans, the West is kind of playing a waiting game here as well, trying to weeken Russias position in other places (Syria, former SU,…).
While the West still seems to be more aggresive and active I get the impression that currently the West and Russia seem to be waiting and trying to improve their relative geopolitical position incrementally for things to come. The big unknown for a possible endgame IMO is China and its geopolitical goals, after they reach their economic long term goals with the impressive growth it manages.
Unfortunatelly for us in the Balkans, we live in interresting times.