My “favorite” freak in Kiev is the infamous Oleg Liashko who provides the world with a weekly scandal of some kind. His latest is a fight with Sergei Melnichuk, the commander of the “Aidar” death-squad. Considering that Liahsko got elected riding on his alleged endorsement by the members of Aidar there is a certain irony to see these two men accusing each other of betrayal. See the video for yourself (and press ‘cc’ for English subtitles:
Sergei Melnichuk
Of course, the real importance of this latest clash amongst the freaks is in the fact that it shows that the crisis in Kiev is real and that the Nazis are now turning on each other and accusing each other of being agents for Moscow. That paranoia about “Russian” agents everywhere is also good news as it creates an atmosphere of panic, suspicion and chaos will will definitely contribute to the fall of the current regime.
The question is, alas, whether the next regime in power will be better or worse. My personal feeling is that it will be even worse or, at least, more overt about its toxicity. Still, the process is probably a historical inevitability and, as the expression goes, the Ukraine will have to hit the bottom to push itself back up again.
The Saker
I constantly hope for a coup to break out.The best of course,would be a military coup that topples the junta and eliminates the fascists.But next best would be a fascist coup that would polarize the situation totally.It would drive any decent Ukrainian into opposition and bring many more,quickly,to the Novorossian side.While making it clearer than ever that those our side fights, are truly fascists.
All this is wishful thinking. Even if their is a forced change of governemnt, it wil occur under control of the Sponsors. Without its Western sponsors, of course the regime would eventually collapse pretty soon, not necessarily for the better. But the fact is the West can keep it under life support for a very long time, What will happen is that it will become a more and more openly fascist dictatorship, a regime of pure terror at the exclusive service of big capital, tolerating zero dissent. Most of the younger population will have but one goal: to move away from that hell hole. This will be fine with the West, which will acquire most of the assets of that country on the cheap. Ukraine will be up for auction. It is a pillage operation.
Sadly, you may be right. But on the bright side: that would begin to shift the population balance in the NAF’s favor, strengthening the resistance some more.
Well, you have a point. But I don’t think US sponsorship can hold things together for as long as all that, and in some ways it makes things worse.
Nobody who isn’t overconfident would be willing to be at the head of a regime in Kiev right now. And nobody who isn’t both greedy, dishonest and fairly vile would agree to be involved in a quisling US-sponsored regime right now, since most things a decent person might want to do to improve the situation will be ruled out of bounds from the start by the US sponsors. That is, no turn away from neoliberalism/financialism, no help for the economy in any way that relates to people, no moves towards peace or co-operation with either Novorossiya or Russia.
So they’ll end up with greedy overconfident creeps, who will (just as has happened thus far) quickly scam all the aid the US will be throwing at Kiev to try to prop the situation up, and make stupid moves that intelligent opponents can take advantage of. This holds whether it’s the current regime or some US-sponsored successor.
Meanwhile the real fanatics cannot be truly controlled by American handlers. They have a dystopia to create and can’t ultimately be restrained from trying to create it. Overall, I don’t believe the Americans can hold the situation together for all that long–longer than we’d like, but not that long.
Meanwhile as a side note, the more overtly dictatorial and beastly the whole thing gets, the more the propaganda side of the war unravels–not as much as we’d like because the mainstream media will stay amazingly quiet about it, but some.
The SA has kept Guatemala firmly under the fascist boot since 1954, and Guatemala is just a ‘side-show’, as they say. Once the USA imposes a fascist stooge regime, there is no going back allowed, which is why they are so very pissed off at Putin. Someone obviously thought he was just another one of ‘our sons-of-bitches’.
Sounds like the Kafka-Version of Game Of Thrones °°
They are all just a bunch of idiots, but dangerous as well.
The aggressive scum which spoils this Earth.
I hope they will be hanged on some maydan tree very soon by a violent mob.
Is it enough for Putin the Crimea is Russian now and not a military base of US? So he does not care of the innocent people suffering under the criminal Kiev government in neighbouring country and dying by nazis financed by jew Kolomoiski?!
They will not stop, they will attack Russia. How much is Putin ready to gibe up for the sake of not annoying the western “partners” – up to Voronezh or further?
If they attack across the Russian border, Russia will destroy them entirely.
They will continue to kill Russians in Donbass. But Russia cannot go rescue and secure the borders of Novorossiya without, first, being overtly attacked inside Russia by either the Ukies or NATO proxies and contractors.
It is the reality of the geopolitical situation. Russia cannot simply exert its will because it can. It must have international legal basis, and then, once that criterion is met, it can lay waste to Kiev.
Putin has always opted for legality first. Total victory, when he decides. Be patient.
Russians do not support invading Ukraine. They will support whatever Putin wants and does.
That might be a lesson for the Putin-doubters and Putin-haters.
I understand you perfectly. So let us assume, that is how the world goes, yeah?
Putin perfectly minds his (national) business, well, and that is all, nothing more indeed.
Similar to cowards´ behaviour of France and Britain against Hitler in 1938. And what was the outcome: WW2 and 50 millions of dead people!
You just acknowledge this stupid attitude against the USA hegemony, inferior appeasment. Afraid of war just muting your dignity. And what will you get – humiliation and war.
How can Russia playing an natural empira and superpower stand up against USA/NATO when it just can not cope with Ukrainian fake government???
Most of you who blindly absolutely praise and admire Putin (oh, he surely has a secret clever plan of a chessmaster) and dinnounce Obama just imagine the following happening in Canada:
some NGO financed by FSB starts turmoil in Montreal, Russian ambassador serves coookies etc. blah blah…government coup…some radical goups threath and even kill the frenchspeaking…artillery of canadian army fires on Quebec
The world media, UN, White house, Paris just watching by?!
Even France (being proven by history to be a country which cannot fight) would send its all naval fleet (i.e. 3 ships ha ha ha) across the Atlantic ocean to give hand. Or the USA as a neighbour would promptly cross the borders and install martial law/peacecorps not taking care whether the rest of the world plays any sanctions game.
Did you get what makes the difference – to shut up (and not accept Crimeas will to join RF, as the Novorussia was refused) or to have the balls and go all the way (fight for the Russian people in Ukraine, not vice versa – as we see for more than a year let the Doneck militia play a buffer btw, NATO and Russia). If you insist this is geopolitics (and the US establishment really is obsessed with geopolitics), than Moscow should finally make it clear it has a zone of interest of national security 40 km from own borders and will not overlook a GENOCIDE and FASCIST regime in Ukraine!!!
You are late to the game.
Putin has Crimea. Putin has Novorossiya.
Putin has 86% approval ratings.
NATO and especially Germany is scared sh*tless of the Russian military.
You think you know something Putin and the FSB and General Staff don’t.
Publish it.
You want to save the lives of everyone by starting a wider, deeper war on NATO’s terms.
Russia will move when it has to move on its own terms.
It will leave you breathless.
Look at the big picture. Russia has to survive the destruction of oil prices and the ruble, rebuild its economy from the Yeltsin-Euro destruction and participate in the ME and Eurasia.
It has nukes, but it is not a large power. It is one tenth of China. And China is not taking on NATO.
Red Ryder, thank you so much for good sense. I am out of patience trying to explain things to people who think balls trump brains.
You are essentially stating the classic Liberal Interventionist argument. Unfortunately, over the last couple of decades, good ole US of A has conclusively proven just where exactly the road that’s paved with good intentions leads. Every one of America’s numerous interventions was supposed to be “for greater good” — bring people freedom and a representative form of government, topple dictators, give rights to ethnic minorities, etc. The simplistic, naive, “good guys vs. bad guys” approach proved to be disasterous in every case… Look at Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan. What makes you think attempting to fix Ukraine via intervention would work any better? Just because it would be Russia and not US doing the intervening? Well, you might be right, maybe Russia is just inherently better at it. But I don’t think so. I don’t think which country is engaged in it matters, it is the act of intervention in another country’s affairs itself that is problematic. A country is a complex system, and there will inevitably be many unintended consequences. And then Russia will be stuck in a European Afganistan, trying to sort the whole mess out somehow.
Putin is wise to conduct the policy he is conducting. No overt interference, covert support for pro-Russian forces within Ukraine. You can see it’s working by how it’s driving various neocons nuts. They very badly want Russia to overtly intervene. Why do you think that is?
Oh no, do not make me cry.
Are you so naive? USA and any good intentions (in favour of local people or even world peace)?
Selfish and hypocrytic, yes.
Stupid and blown up, yes.
Trying to imitate bolsheviks´ social engineering, yes.
Black-mailing and rude, yes.
Arrogant and unable/unwilling of any real foreign policy assesment, yes.
Greedy and aggressive, double YES.
You must be either insane optimist or just overslept the last at least 70 years of history :-)
and of course your point of view was confirmed by Obama receiving the Nobel Prize for peace (teaming Arafat and Ahtisaari)!
Peace
I think it could be doable.
US just went in, bombed everything to ruins and then either went out or drew back to fortified military bases.
Pacifying and rebuilding country needs occupation with iron fist. If you break the existing system, however bad, you have to take full responsibility and rebuild it fully. You loosen the grip step by step, in each case ready to go back full military control. Until the civil society is ready, economy is functioning and people have consensus about howt their country to be governed.
Russia could do that in theory to Ukraine, but a) it would be huge drain of resources and b) would expose Russia itself to all sorts of nasty attacks by West. Attack against whose she could not defend it properly because of (a).
While I’m generally against foreign interventions in internal problems, and while for different geopolitical reasons I’m specifically against Putin losing his cool and going into Ukraine now, I think there is a reason to assume that Russia and potentially other countries could, if they wished, go into some countries and do a much better job fixing things than the Americans ever do.
What we have to remember here is the distinction between propaganda and reality. The United States is always saying they’re intervening in whatever place for that place’s own good. The problem with the results, however, is not that good intentions just can’t create good results when it comes to intervening in foreign conflicts. The problem is that they’re lying.
The United States intervenes in places for various geopolitical reasons, but whether it’s a main reason or just a side issue to get buy-in from the usual suspects, one reason they always go into a country is to restructure the place to serve US multinational interest. That is, to take over its enterprises, rape its resources, privatize anything that might make a profit, indebt its population, reorient its agriculture to produce export cash crops under foreign control and so on.
This tends to involve mass impoverishment of the people, pushing masses off their land creating resistance and rootless mobs. To blunt local resistance they often resort to the age-old colonial “divide and rule” game, creating simmering civil wars. The result is chaos, poverty, violence, destruction of infrastructure etc., but in the immortal words of Madeleine Albright on 500,000 Iraqi children dead from the sanctions, “We believe the price is worth it”. All that horror is an expected cost and even in some ways a benefit for the imperialists; it’s part of the program.
If one were to go into a country without intending to rape it, one can expect somewhat less horror to ensue. Such situations are still delicate and far from a walk in the park, but need not have the savage results of a US intervention. UN peacekeeping, even though it was always somewhat in the service of the international elite status quo, still in decades past before it got really badly corrupted used to do much better than the US, NATO, or even current UN “peacekeeping” such as the shameful mission in Haiti.
“… cowards´ behaviour of France and Britain against Hitler in 1938. And what was the outcome: WW2 and 50 millions of dead people!”
Ww2 = result oft Britain taking regional conflict around multiethnic Polish rogue state (mistreatment of German and Ukrainian minorities, Danzig, etc) to Continental and global level (by involving Canada and other overseas Territories)
Even if the Ukrainians or NATO attacks Russia inside Russia, all the West will do is immediately to compare the situation to Hitler and Poland in 1939 implying that Putin dressed up soldiers and attacked their own as a scam to reconstitute the Soviet Union.
Let’s not forget that the West still thinks Russia attacked Georgia first in 2008. If they can’t get that little easily verifiable fact correct, what makes you think you can convince them out of their conspiratorial thinking?
NATO counts on these kinds of people.
So Putin is the traitor of Russia is that it?
He is the traitor of all the decent people of the whole world. He has built up an impression for being different from the lousy world politicions, being a man of principles…..
Tell plainly the “babushkas” in Lugansk starved to death, the mothers whose children were killed when playing near school by artillery, that they just should wait until Minsk VIII agreement is breached and Kremlin attacked with Molotow cocktails of Pravyi Sector combatants!
By the way: there was already artillery shelling of some villages on russian territory already months ago, even russian channels reported, of course, it was just by chance and neglected.
What is according to you the difference btw. Congo and Russia? One of them is superpower and will retaliate when attacked and “will destroy them entirely”? I am sure the pitiful army of Congo would fight until the last man falls. Every nation would defend itself.
But I am not sure with Mr Putin any more. Probably he decides the very Russia is only surroundings of Moscow and only deserves to be defended. What else to expect after years of watching the East European countries together the ex-USSR republics being enslaved by NATO and EU. Just watching for 23 years the Ukraine robbed and scaling up antirussian feelings and simultaneously delivering gas/oil with discounts (and even sipped away rudely). Even now letting the DNR+LNR rulers to supply Kiev regime with coal from Donbass.
The hatred Israel takes care of every jew around the world. Mossad would assasinate or kidnap Poroshenko/Yatsenyuk + Co. and put them on trial. What has FSB accomplished? (Within 200m from Kremlin they overlooked a false flag murder on Nemtsov, Putin now blamed for all over the world, a superb secret service, really). Was at least the ROSHEN chocolate factory burned down? No, it makes further profit and products to celebrate the Febr. 23rd, Russian people purchase and enjoy the sweets.
US army flyes drones far away to Afghanistan, Iraq. Do the Russian have none drones to attack the Kiev Verkhovna Rada.
Indeed Starikov blames Strelkov for having fled from Slavyansk, the others calling him (Strelkov) even a traitor and weakling but not having allowed him to march on Kiev a year ago when the Ukrop troops were ready to give up as in Crimea garnisons.
It seems the Great Putin waits until Russian Federation is completely surrounded by NATO bases and enemy regimes (or reluctant as he is with regard to the Novorussian), now that will be a huge Debaltsevo pocket in russian style.
Yes, the babushkas, the dead of Dombass, it is a pity …
But above all these feelings of pity, we are talking about a global, total war, with a high probability of a nuclear strike.
Do you think it is easy to make such a decision?
The neocons are seeking a way to trigger this war, but although this would appear as the fault of Putin.
Then they cause … they push Putin to fault … they support the neo-Nazis, they are arming, they form the fighters … they insult the Russian …
Despite their lies, more and more people are beginning to understand what is happening.
Remember, this is a global war whose stakes exceed Ukraine …
It is vital that Putin resists these provocations.
Here in France, as elsewhere in Europe, we will be on the front lines. This is why all sensible people reject this direct intervention of Putin in Ukraine.
This is why Merkel, Hollande and now Renzi recede increasingly aggressive policy neocons from UK and US.
No one can predict the results of a total war.
kakaduuu & wake up call
Shouldn’t you patriots be at the demo?
Netanyahu govt more ‘frightening’ than all Israel enemies, ex-Mossad chief tells crowds
The future of your country is at stake.
;D
My dear,
I am neither Russian nor Israeli
and of course no admirer of Obama or even my own government.
I admit that compared to the rest (dwarfs and cripples) Putin is a world´s politician No. one. I put big hopes in him and acknowledge what he made of Jetzin´s Russia in terms of economy etc.
Frau Merkel is a huge dissapointment to me, absolutely. I had no high opinion on her IQ or just common sense, but how was she cornered by US dogs and acted against interests of own country that was immense fail. And I am sorry the French as usual, shame on them. What do they hope for? Just to jump on the side of winner as in both world wars… OMG, give me a break – victorious nation of WWII and member of UN security council. And the ex-empire G. Britain now a little barking doggy of the USA – what a joke. I really hope Putin crushes them all very soon.
It is just sick knowing that children are dying in Donetsk while the swines Kolomoisky, Soros, Clinton and them alike make extra profits daily. But the nation has a government it deserves (all incl. Kutchma, Jushtsenko, Janukovyc, Yatsenyuk). First have the people of Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov rise up with arms and overthrow the ruling scum and wipe the streets of criminals and banderas, after that only are we expected to help with (Crimeans did nothing, Donetsk people had the courage and sadly pay for it). Somehow the Ukrainian have a silly national feature – sitting and begging – “Russia give us cheap gas” “EU give us your life standard” “NATO fight for us” “Germany give us Money”. And see what they got after jumping on maydan, eat it.
The obvious goal of US politics in the Ukraine is to drag Russia into war, preferrably make it look as the aggressor. Putin does his best agsinst this plot, you suggest he dives into it with reckless abandon.
Now, my friend, here’s a question for you:
Вы дурак или враг?
LOLOLOL!! Thanks for today’s best laugh, thus far… .:-D
Rocky Racoon, I think we should just give up on those who can’t think conceptually. They look at injustice at once apparent to them, knight themselves for having the same emotions we all do in seeing it– and then blank everything else out– even the hands that are actually committing the injustice and the plan behind it.
Rocky, please take a look at http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-two-pillars-of-russian-maidan-or.html
kakaduu, why don’t you express anger towards those who caused the situation, instead of against Russia? Russia is not omnipotent, has responsibilities towards its own citizens. That its actions are further limited by geopolitical realities and the goal of defeating the NWO I won’t ask you to understand.
The attitude that you and so many others have is that justice would be served by righting one wrong in the world– regardless of all the other results.
It seems so infantile: I want what I want and I want it now. I understand that it’s rooted in compassion for others and outrage against injustice, but even such fine feelings don’t excuse you from rational consideration of the outcome of actions.
Is it all about expressing anger you think?
Does the 86% of popular appreciation of Putin´s policy mean he has not done any mistakes?
Adolf H. had more than 96% for sure, built higways, was opposing communists, vegetarian, had sense for arts and architecture, not smoking nor drinking, hero of WWI…
Let me make clear that I am not against Putin and not linking him with Hitler. I (and any of you incl. Saker, Yakov Kedmi, Colonel Cassad…) surely have less intel data than he has. And I am sure he is trying and doing his best.
Just admit he has made mistakes, and even huge, from which there is no point of return.
I would name a few: trusting Janukovyc (capabilities and moral) too long, sticking to olympics show of (and missing the game played on Kiev´s maydan), double game and compromises with oligarchs…
Please don´t take me wrong – I pray for a leader like Putin for my (and any) country. And I fully agree “who if not him”. (indeed Strelkov or Kadyrov could make a difference)
Thank you and hoping for the best.
posting over from the other thread….. the sensible lady explaining about food prices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XqO7dHeQk2w
I wonder what to Margrit, the lawyer politician mp who last year posted on youtube, gave an interview re the lunatics…..can’t find video sadly
This is beyond amusing!
These latest developments in Banderastan are nothing but good news for Russia. The fact that the pro-western lunatics in Kiev are turning on each other and calling each other a “Russian agent” is precisely as the Saker said a sign of panic, confusion, suspicion, but above all, it’s a sign of WEAKNESS and DESPERATION.
These lunatics, really expected the glorious democratic west to chip in with billions of euros-dollars if they trumped up their anti-Russian credentials to the heavens. As this long awaited (and desperately required) manna from the west is not arriving, and the pie from which these creatures have to loot from is shrunken, a dog-eat-dog situation arises.
The big question here is: WHAT ARE THE WESTERN POWERS GOING TO DO NOW? The $17bln promised by the IMF (but still not delivered, even as their beloved “democrats” in Kiev are begging and collapsing) is not remotely enough to keep the rotten superstructure standing. They are in a real bind now. Their options include:
a) Provide Kiev with the $17bln, but in small installments (so not everything is looted at once) so as to keep the Porky-Yats-Turchnov freak show alive until the next false flag/military attack on Donbass/weapons provision/anti-Russian sanctions move can be conjured. This still means, that the western nations will indeed have to kiss those billions goodbye. It’s not even that, that amount of money will only last for a certain (and limited) amount of time. More will have to follow, unless miraculously there is a Maidan in Moscow (lol)
b) Cut Ukraine loose, but watch Putin and Russia score another victory against the combined might of the glorious, democratic, prosperous and law-governed West.
Both options are horrible for them, but my feeling is that they will ultimately have to go with the first option. This is so because as long as the price of oil is low, the western “strategists” feel that Russia is vulnerable and can be seriously harmed if all the right conditions have been cultivated by them. I think that once the price of oil rises significantly (through largely the elimination of large quantities of production from the North American oil patch) the Western “democratic crusaders” will have to pull the plug on this one.
I find these people an embaressment – the West must be so proud with their useful idiots. A bunch of thugs. Hopefully this is the start of the beginning of the end. Let them turn on each other.
Let’s see what the IMF do now……..the EU is already starting to show many cracks……
Rgds,
Veritas
I would agree that the West has no choice but to keep the regime on life support. If they could, I’m sure they would be happy to let some fresh faces take over from the thoroughly discredited ones. Their problem is, judging from the candidate pool, they’d have less control over nationalists than oligarchs. Poro, Yats and Co can be trusted to be happy looting and pillaging, while the hardcore nationalists might be willing to fight to the death (which they would readily achieve for themselves).
That leaves them with life support and the dim hope that the West “will rise again”. But as many have pointed out, even 17 billion is paltry compared with what they really need to keep Frankenstein breathing. The US might not give a hoot about pouring that money down the rat hole, but now that the rada is Broadcasting bi-weekly episodes of “Ukrainian Death Match” the EU will have much less patience. I would expect the Imf tranches to come through, but dribbled out through an eye-dropper. The regime will lurch on, but for how long? three months? Six? Nine tops?
Dear The Saker,
And so it begins in the A Just Russia party. Are the 5th Columnists exposing themselves following the Netsmov murder and hoping to utilise it?
http://tass.ru/en/russia/781679
At the same time murder suspects arrested for the murder:
http://tass.ru/en/russia/781701
With Zaur Dadayev pleading guilty and Gubashev pleading not guilty:
http://tass.ru/en/russia/781715
What will be interesting will be the money trail………
Rgds,
Veritas
I think the main reason Washington wants to send more military ‘advisors’ to the Ukraine is to create an armed presence on the ground to protect the regime it installed from a coup. Having invested so much effort, prestige and money in toppling the old government and installing a pro-Washington regime, ready and willing to obey orders and fight Russia, the Americans are unlikely to allow a openly and brazen fascist group to cease power in Kiev.
This assumes the Americans actually know *who* is the one the really want to support. From experience with Syria, I would say good luck to that. Fact is the Americans are as clueless as any Ukr outsider!
Night of the Long Knives?
But of course only a distorted and inefficient version…coming soon
I suspect that the next change in government will be Moscow’s opportunity to officially refuse to acknowledge the legitemacy of the state and any legal obligations implied by the existence of such a state.
What a dream, just go on. I would bet just another chance missed again. Otherways what was the problem to officially accept the elected governments od Doneck and Lugansk republics?
I forgot, Mr. Putin is strictly playing the international law and justice game.
But the problem is that his main opponent (USA) makes his own rules and even changes them on the run.
Question: being so passionate about correct and distinguished foreign policy why does Moscow not insist on keeping the stipulations of February 2014 arrangement signed with Yanukovyc (guaranteed by the Polish minister and other clowns)? Broken the very next day when Berkut forces were withdrawn from Kiev….
In contrary Lavrov seems to be stucked up and blamed on world scene for every militia´s accused move. Funny indeed, Russia is blamed for not stopping what USA (USD 5 billion coup as mentioned by Nuland) paid for and started in Ukraine. As I see Russian government cannot hire even a shitty PR agency, or probably they even already completely lost their dignity.
They are anyway sanctioned, perpetrated as the aggressor, compared to Hitler! OMG if Adolf would have adopt the “tricky” approach of Putin when annexing Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia…fascist Germany would host also 1940 Olympics and in 1943 still sending humanitarian convoy trucks to Heydrich volunteer militias slaughtered by Prague regular army corps and artillery. Writing this I just must laugh and piss my pants.
If Putin is viewed by all world´s media and overall public as the imperialist with sever appetite willing to reinstall USSR, what has he accomplished so far? After 14 years of ruling the largest country of the world he gained Pridnestrovye, South Osetia and tiny Crimea peninsula. I mean ISIL managed more in 6 months.
Be so nice and please do explain me this big issue and behind the scene game.
The Master:
Yes, definitely you should blame Putin for being demonized in the monopolisitic Western Press. It woul be very wrong to blame the press itself, or its owners, or its controllers, or the legislators who passed the laws enabling a monopolistic press.
By all means blame the victim; even be so foolish as not to see that you too are a victim of the results of such a media. Masterful.
Definitely the trolls have found us, Saker.
You are making a huge mistake. Master. Several actually, posting here expecting to be believed being one of them.
Putin is not trying to take over other countries, so it is success that he hasn’t taken any over. Only your paranoid masters, US and Israel, think he wants to take over. But what would they know? they look at their own paranoid nightmares, never listen to what anyone else is saying.
As the regime in Kiev has failed completely to stabilize the economy, which is in full meltdown mode, and it’s been badly beaten on the battlefield, and people can’t go and buy bread and potatoes and pay with nationalist rhetoric about the glory of Ukraine… this amount of total failure and gross incompetence is bound to cause tension within the ruling elite, who then, like pirahna trapped in a shrinking pond begin to snap and eat each other to death. Even fascists, who, let’s face it, are probably not the smartest people on earth, have to understand that their ‘revolution’ led nowhere and the oligarchs are still in control, must by now have realized that they were used to replace one gang of gangsters with another one. That must hurt. Militant and proud Nazis fighting, bleeding and dying on the frontline, in the frost and snow, and for what? To protect a bunch of billionaires and their friends in Washington. Finally, it seems like the stromtroopers, national socialist zealots, understand, that on balance, the guys in Kiev are their real enemies more than the Russians.
It was before Yanukovic was driven from Kyiv that Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt not only plotted the over-throw of a democratically elected president, they decided for the Ukrainian people who would lead the Junta that took power. This was meant to be a covert operation that was to appear to be an organic movement expressing the right of self determination, and in spite of the fact that the phone-con between her and Pyatt went viral on the Internet, this has been the assertion of Obama administration worthies such as John Kerry, and the President himself. Their lying, hypocritical words are an embarrassment to the United States for they clearly reveal to the whole world just what sort of cloth these miscreants are cut from. This sequence of events was featured prominently in the video, “Welcome to Nulandistan,” which presents an excellent brief review about what was really happening during the Maidan, how it was used by the US/EU tag team, and then the consequences for Ukraine of their meddling. It is very difficult to listen to John Kerry droning on and on about Russian aggression against a “free people” who only want the right to live without tyranny while watching video of the people of Ukraine being shot down in the street for their opposition to just that, or being burned alive in Odessa by fascist agitators who were egged on to commit such an atrocity by the same Junta that Nuland and Pyatt put together, or having their polling stations commandeered by armed fascist thugs who were sent to disrupt elections by these same free people to prevent them from expressing their will which was contrary to that of the Junta.
They have created a dog’s breakfast of epic proportions in Ukraine, and they did so on purpose. It wasn’t that they put in motion a dynamic they lost control of because chaos was the goal, which they could then loudly accuse Russia of causing and then pretend to be the only ones willing to make things right. Problem. Reaction. Solution. And the need to defame Russia is because Putin dared to stand up for his country, against the hegemony of the New World Order. After the machinations of the Reagan administration destroyed Russia, Russia was supposed to remain a second rate power that the fascists of the New World Order could plunder at will, but it didn’t turn out that way. They should have known it wouldn’t after the coup in the Kremlin back in the Mid ’70’s removed the Bolsheviks from power. Western media has been curiously quiet about that turn of events. In fact, they have been silent precisely when they needed to speak, and running their mouths ad-nauseum when it was unnecessary, and deftly controlling the discussion by frequent repetition of the propaganda, and employing the Hegelian tactic against those who report the truth.
We have allowed them to create a world which we have to live in that is irrevocably FUBAR. I don’t know if it can ever be saved, but one thing I do know is that as long as this satanic scum is allowed to seize power from us, this is what we will have to live with.
Reagan´s machinations destroyed USSR as a communist nest and that is perfectly OK. Ronnie was a hell of a guy. Nowadays he would throw up seeing Obama´s administration. And I am pretty sure he would call Putin a pal and make him friends.
Russia and Putin especially is trying to be nice and be welcomed in the club since 1991. Just giving in, no mean ambitions. Naive attitude and lethal outcome.
Finally making resumé and taking leads. Dear Russia. F*ck it, there are no real friends left, you are on your alone. Forget about China, Turkey, Hungary, Venezuela and even Belarus!
Probably Cuba could qualify and also be a imperative how to cope with sanctions for more than 50years!
Poor Russia got sucked in to the “club” in 1991 and nearly died from it. Now she is back on her feet and does have friends. Friends, not users. Friends she can shake hands with and not get her arm ripped off, something the USA seems to specialise in.
I have long suspected that Poroshenko has retained his position, in part, because of Russian support as the least bad option available.
A year ago I suggested that Ukraine was going to devolve into warlordism with geographically based power centres of which Novorossia would be one. As the national economy fails that process is gathering pace.
IMHO this is one reason that the Russian government seeks to ensure that Novorossia remains part of Ukraine because in that fashion, as possibly the strongest unit of the warlord factions they will have a chance of achieving primacy and a way forward for Ukraine.
So, things are going to get worse for Ukraine, but my guess is that Novorossia will become the strongest political and economic unit of the country and become the powerhouse uniting a federation of oblasts.
All оf this assumes that Russia is able to avoid a hot war. If not then, if they are lucky, my grandchildren will be hunting food with bow and arrows.
Hitler had to kill Röhm and disband the SA (the brownshirts) before he could really enforce his status as the god of the nazi regime. The gods from the other side of the Atlantic may have already realized that the Ukranian punishers are as troublesome and useless as the German brownshirts were.
I guess the soon-to-be-toughened-up Kiev dictatorship will need disciplined, militarized units, like the Waffen-SS, dressed in black and trained in “counterinsurgence” by foreign instructors, to really punish dissent and instill fear among the restive population of its troublesome Rus colonies. It is clear to me that since Kiev refuses to adopt a federal constitution, most territories to the east of the Dniepr are de facto colonies.
My country, Portugal, was a fascist dictatorship for half a century that. In the end, it was dragged to a colonial war (1965-1974), which caused its demise. However, if a properly consolidated fascist regime gets installed in Kiev, it may take some time before it collapses under its own weight. In the meantime, it can (and will) deal a lot of damage to all concerned parties. Such damage will not be limited to Russia or the hapless Ukrainian colonials, it will befall on Europe like a pestilence and then cross the Atlantic, to bring eternal infamy to the founding fathers of Kiev’s regime.
First you build them up, then you tear them down. Thirdly, you replace them. That is how America does it. America is in the tear down phase in Ukraine. Tearing down the Nazis, that is, who were briefly useful, but must go. The currency is being purposely destroyed as well. Both can be replaced, the Nazis by euro troops, and the currency by a new one, under strict Anglo/Zionist control. Putin is to blame for this catastrophe, the loss of Ukraine to the EU. He allowed them to stage the coup and did nothing, caring more about his image during the Olympics.
tim, And just how would YOU have gone about preventing it? Yanukovych cd’ve prevented it, but I see no way Putin cd’ve.
He could have used his influence (money) on the Ukrainian military leaders and the pro-Russian elements in the East to get them to help Yanukovich crush the maidan coup.But I remember thinking at the time that the Sochi games were why he didn’t.Tim is right, that he was intent on showing the world the “new” friendly peaceful Russia.And the West knew that.Which is why they used that time for the worse of the maidan violence,and finally the full coup.Sometimes things are more important than image,survival of your country,for one.As it has turned out the Western MSM has made people dismiss Sochi anyway.They’ve painted Putin as “Putler”.And Russia as a brutal dictatorship.So not only was Sochi worthless,but NATO is slowly creeping closer and closer to having Ukraine.It was an immense failure to act. I’ve always been, for years, been a Putin supporter (and still am).But I’m not blind to this failure.
That is exactly what I am saying. But either my English is poor or Penelope and some other do not get it.
God bless them. Putin should be evaluated by deeds not wishful thinking. Take facts and tell me what has he reached in 12 last months or even 12 years (I mean in terms with Ukraine)? Was the position and opportunities to act not better approx. one year ago?
P.S. Now Kadyrov (by own stupid ingstagram posts) gets nicely involved into Nemtsov’s murder. Shit just hit the fan.
I see, Uncle Bob, you think Putin should have paid the Ukrainian military to ignore the directives of the President of Ukraine. Sounds like a coup to me; anything less and it couldn’t have consistently put down the Maidan provacateurs.
Alternatively, you suggest that Putin should’ve influenced and/or armed the E Ukrainians against the Maidan. Don’t you see that neither of these would’ve worked, wd only have given the Maidan opposition an excuse to go even earlier to shooting people?
When you are only a neighboring country & therefore w/o a legal right to intervene it’s no so easy.
Cheers, Penelope
The comment from Uncle Bob 1 was reinforcement of Israeli-American toss. I busted that sayanim on that sort of говно earlier when he whinged about Russia not playing into the zionazi=nazi strategy. As for “the master”, the thing’s attempt to paint Kadyrov as part of the Nemtsov murder about as zio as zio one can get, whether Jewish or Catholic.
of course kiev is in shambles and the chosen leaders are pretty stupid, mad and floppish at best. Good old uSA will choose someone else and to keep some kind of support to the chosen guys…
simply because the empire´s policy toward Moscow cannot and won´t change:
degrade, wear out Putin and change regime in Moscow…
But the political gains possible , the military strengthening and TIME itself is in Vladimir putin´s side.
And the undesirable cost in blood and pain of the DPR and LPR residents is actually hard to accept anywhere including Russia. hOWEVER, to intervene by force in Ukraine would bring much worse consequences for everybody.
The funniest I found, was to hear that Rada MP looking seriously offended by an idle threat, while we all know how the coup was settled, by threatening the Rada MP and even punching them physically!
To all the Putin-bashers, I do not always know what strategic President Putin has at the moment, but there is one thing I know : he is a far, far better strategist than I am, and as until now I have seen only good (really) made by him, I rather trust him, and do not rely on suspicions of treason by him, or some of his officials in such an important topic. I can very well admit such suspicions from excellent, though probably excessively pessimistic, people like Colonel Strelkov or Mozgovoi, I confess I am not always as well disposed towards people I don’t know, who are probably neither better “experts” or more experienced “warriors” than me (that is, not at all), and who launch such rumours here.
Did I see a dude wearing a yarmulke?
Dear Saker, thank you so much for fixing the iPad problem! I was so happy to see this today. It is just so much easier to read when I can enlarge. Again, many thanks!
Saker picked a good IT team; your thanks are being sent to them.
I agree with the person who said that the opinion that Ukraine will crumble down is wishful thinking. I specially think of the example of the French Revolution of 1789. Certainly, in the years following 1789, most people in Europe were thinking that such a mad and failed regime would not survive, specially seeing the escalation of terror and the crumbling of the money
The chain of events in Ukraine is very much similar to the chain of events during the French Revolution). However, through alternatives such as Napoleon I, Louis-Philippe, Napoleon III which were in fact the continuation of the spirit of the revolution used to lure the people, the revolution survived and is today solidly anchored in the people’s minds in France. So, sad as it is, Ukraine will probably remain in the American sphere in the future, although I hope it will not be so.
I don’t know in which reality you live, but the masonic-communist coup wrongly called a “revolution” didn’t last very long, just about ten years.
See the “Declaration” here and try counting the well-known symbols, beginning with the alll-seeing eye at the top, the Phyrgian cap below it and the huge Fascia in the middle below the cap. Yachin and Boaz with the Sun and the Moon at the sides, the old masonic “equality” blabber etc. All there in plain sight.
There is no such thing as a “revolution”, it’s just a fallacy. Revolutions are always organized coups serving specific interests. And of course always based on “comfortable” lies and propaganda.