“Circumstances require us to take decisive and immediate action,” the order reads. “The People’s Republics of Donbass turned to Russia with a request for help. In this regard, in accordance with Article 51, part 7 of the UN Charter, with the sanction of the Federation Council and in pursuance of the friendship treaties ratified by the Federal Assembly and mutual assistance with the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, I have decided to conduct a special military operation,” Putin
https://www.rt.com/russia/550408-special-operation-putin-donbass/
Some of the latest formal statements
DPR head Pushilin
“The special military operation in Donbass will soon be over and all the cities will be liberated.”
Russian Defense Ministry
“According to intelligence, the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ troops and service members are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons. No strikes are being carried out on the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ units that have laid down their arms.”
China FM spox accuses US of ‘inciting war’ in Ukraine
Hua Chunying has said the Russia-Ukraine situation reflects a “complex historical background,” after Moscow implemented a “military operation” in Donbass.
The FM spox accused Western media of using the word “invasion” but did not when US military decided to initiate ‘armed actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.’
She continued to lambast Washington for its role – condemning America for ‘hyping up tensions and inciting war, while selling over $1.5BN worth of weapons.’
Peskov
The demilitarization of Ukraine, which is one of the goals of the Russian military operation, means the neutralization of its military potential
This is an open thread for discussion as all other threads have become unwieldy with many comments.
Amarynth
This is a reminder.
The term “The Fog of War” exists for a reason. I cannot yet make out the overall Russian moves over the two Republics or the rest of the Ukraine.
And you know what? If I could make it out, it would of course be transparent to everyone else.
We need the analysts to check in, and the good ones will not say many words at this stage.
So, be patient. Russia forces are doing their thing with the objective as Peskov said: “The demilitarization of Ukraine, which is one of the goals of the Russian military operation, means the neutralization of its military potential.”
We will of course see Russia all over the whole territory, but how, and why – gotto wait for that.
My sources are reporting continually (one even had his wife post ongoing as he went for a bit of sleep – poor guy), but it is area-based and one cannot yet find the Russian overall strategy. We can only see some actions.
Those that ask for clear news will have to be patient. https://t.me/boris_rozhin is quite on the job and he is a good one to follow.
There are also wagons full of fakes out there. The Ukies are making films and tubes and so on, using old Syria footage.
There is one thing very clear – this is the major split between Zone A and Zone B and we will talk about this for many years to come. The global implications (especially with the sanctions) are very major. But, as Zakharova said, this move by Russia is in attempt to fully avoid a major world war. Russia is removing a cancer that is being used to stop this world of ours to continue in peace. There are more cancers.
The Russian forces should completely withdraw from Ukrainian territory, if they know what’s good for them. My sources tell me that Victoria Nuland is on her way, and she has got 3 tons of cookie batter with her.
God no, not the cookie batter, that’s like Kryptonite to Superman Vlad.
Yes, the cookie batter! One batch even has walnuts, I hear.
I saw a petition on change.org gathering signatures in order to get her fired…
I just signed. Thanks
ROTFLMAO. You had me going until I got to the “cookies” part. Well played metamars, well played.
The more that UN, NATO, EU, UK, and USA speak out to condemn Russia for this, the more powerless they show themselves to be. The resounding message that just came from Russia is “Who would like to be next?”
@ amarynth on February 24, 2022 · at 9:09 am EST/EDT
grune, do not continue to post this worthless and baseless speculation that does not serve anyone.
Amarynth
Saker Assistant
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Thanks, Amarynth.
Speculation is sky high with our comrades posting their wishes, some asking for Putin to order troops to Berlin (again?), or to conquer the whole of Europe. Who do they think Putin is? Attila the Hun? Genghis Khan? There is so much factual information to process, no need to go out on a limb.
Also, watch out for posts linking avia.pro (Russian) and/or avia.pro-net (English version.) I have been comparing them all night, the way they misinform is tricky, only those in the known would see it.
For example,
“An unknown Ka-52 helicopter shot down near Kiev,”
https://avia.pro/news/pod-kievom-sbit-neizvestnyy-vertolet-ka-52,
and
“Dozens of unknown tanks destroyed on the outskirts of Kharkov,”
https://avia.pro/news/desyatki-neizvestnyh-tankov-unichtozheny-na-podstupah-k-harkovu,
or
“Residents of Belarus hand over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine data on the places of deployment and movement of Russian troops,”
https://avia.pro/news/zhiteli-belorussii-sdayut-vsu-dannye-o-mestah-razvyortyvaniya-i-peremeshcheniya-rossiyskih.
Fake news in not-so-much of a disguise.
Lone Wolf
Assalaamu alaykum w w. It seems that he purpose of this was to cut of Russia from the European energy market…
Asia is Russia’s energy market. They were just being nice to their western ‘partners’….neighbourly kind of thing to do. Best not to mistake kindness as stupidity.
Cheers, M
When will the arrests of war criminals start? I bet they will all spill the beans in court. I wonder how many secret agreements involving western agencies will de revealed.
My father asked me why Ukraine didn’t try to save its air force by flying it to Poland.
My guess is that they were afraid the Poles would steal them. If Russia destroys their air force, those are the fortunes of war. But if Poland steals them, that would really hurt
Stoltenberg’s question time when asked if they’d consulted Turkey re the Bosphorus. No it’s not yet been discussed in our defence plans. Will be interesting to see how Erdogan handles that chestnut. I’m sure he sees which way the wind’s blowing and position Turkey accordingly.
I’m sure if access was closed to Russia nothing else would navigate it any time soon.
Large convoys of Ukrainian trucks and cars have been seen heading towards the Polish border. Has Canada’s Freedom Convoy spread to the Ukraine? Will Ukrainians be able to exercise their democratic rights, and remove their WEF installed Schwab Scab?
Cheers M
I wish all these countries aligning with the USA would think about “What options does the USA have if we are invaded?”. The answer is simple: Go nuclear or go home. Do you really think that the USA will go nuclear over Ukraine? Really? No. They will go home and leave you high and dry to die. Sorry folks but that is just the way it is.
Should have formed a non-aligned block with Finland to be a buffer between both sides.
Moving beyond Ukraine, the next question is going to be what happens when Putin restates the NATO bases of eastern former Soviet countries pack up or Russia will remove them? It appears NATO will either comply, which shows the world weakness, or they will double down and then the prospect of global nuclear war becomes real. At least that’s what I see coming.
If NATO backs down, the empire dies and the US is forced to become a struggling, but normal country.
If NATO doubles down, we have WWIII (which is much worse).
Historically, the captains of empire are reluctant to give up their power. Scary days ahead.
The air and sea lift required to physically touch Russia would take months of build up. The Baltic State staging grounds will disappear faster than they can muster…………any large formation on the ground is toast. The entire Russian fleet is at sea, armed and loaded. Besides the Russians will be talking to the Poles across the border by Sunday.
There will be no Ukrainian Ildib. That was my understanding of Mr Putin’s speech, maybe I read too much into it.
Looking forward to the dejihadification of Syria. It’s next up.
Cheers M
It looks like there may well be a lot of back-room negotiations going on at the military-military levels.
We may well see the head of the snake off in very short time and a new interim government in place (pending de-nazified elections) and a new flag on the flag poles until something like a Federated “Minsk III” is agreed.
That would make the “new twins” as just the first of a larger batch of loosely federated neutral siblings etc.
If so, then the western hysteria will be exposed as the farce it is and NS2 will be back on the menu (and hopefully Clinton as well).
Questions will be asked: but not of Russia; rather of Nato and USA/UK.
Galloway is a reasonably reliable name.
“George Galloway RetweetedASB News / MILITARY〽️@ASBMilitary·37m
Footage appears from Kherson region which shows Russian helicopters arrive on the territory of one of the military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainian military does not open fire and does not offer resistance, they just let them land on their base. No resistance.”
https://twitter.com/georgegalloway
Water flow thru Denipr – Crimea canal is restored. Crimea now receives abundant water.
This specifically means that DPR/LPR forces reached the canal.
Russian forces crossed the Denipr on the Antonovsiy Bridge. at 0900 local time.
INDY
OK, this from the ColonelCassad Channel https://t.me/boris_rozhin
has clarified some things for me.
This shows how many operations are running everywhere at once. There was a note that the tactical (I use the word advisedly) communication is superb. Bear in mind there is not a slaughter of civilians. Perhaps folks, and I’ll wait for the analysts, but just perhaps, we’re seeing a miracle.
Intermediate at 4 p.m.
1. The Russian Armed Forces successfully develop an offensive in the south, occupying part of Kherson Oblast, including Kakhovka and Genichesk, and taking control of the North Crimean Canal. A landing force has been thrown out near Kherson. Aksenov stated that water would soon be supplied to Crimea.
2. Putivl is taken in the north. The Russian Armed Forces group advances towards Kiev. More than 30 helicopters attacked the Gostamel airfield (two helicopters were lost), Ukraine confirms the advance of the Russian Armed Forces in Kyiv and Zhytomyr regions. Russian aviation flies over Kiev. The SBU burns documents.
3. Near Kharkiv, heavy fighting is taking place on the bypass road with casualties on both sides in manpower and equipment. The city is urged to hide in bomb shelters. The subway is stopped. An-25 AFU shot down. Taken Volchansk and a bunch of different settlements.
4. There is progress in the LPR in a number of areas – several settlements were liberated, Seversky Donets was forced, an offensive on Volnovakha is underway. The Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered heavy losses. The People’s Democratic Republic of Donetsk also suffered military and civilian casualties.
5. Reports about the landing in Odessa, the capture of Sumy and the situation near Gostamel have not yet been confirmed. In the afternoon, a second wave of airstrikes rolled in. The center of the 72nd IPSO was destroyed, as well as the headquarters of the GUR MOU in Kiev.
6. The EU and NATO will impose various sanctions, but will not go to war for Ukraine. The Bosporus will not be closed either. All in all, it’s about the same as with Ashraf Ghani. It is worth noting that a Ukrainian Su-27 flew away to Romania. More than 500 Ukrainian border guards and military have already fled into Russian territory.
7. The Ukrainian Armed Forces damaged two Russian vessels in the Sea of Azov. One sailor was wounded. The ships continued their movement. The Kerch Bridge and Kerch Strait continue to operate.
Overall, the offensive is progressing well and in the next few hours the zones of control over Ukrainian territory will change significantly.
Stated that North Crimean Canal supplies water to Crimea, via https://t.me/s/Doninside/ at15.25 (London time).
I picked the worst 12 hours of the year to go offline. I am still catching up.
Doesn’t NATO have unified C&C which dictates everything, includign Ze’s bathroom breaks? Russians are operating simultaneously along multiple tracks all over Ukraine. Their PowerPoint minds cannot process all this. NATO is as frozen as Ukies.. It is Game Over for them on traditional Russian land, short of nuclear war. The overwhelming nature of this is like Syria 2015 – it is also sending pointed messages to the Nazi C&C bases in Oceania, along with punitive denazification and demilitarization locally.
– The Alexes note… “End of Illusions” has arrived.
The rainbow colored castle in the sky that was dangling over Zone A since 1991.. is kaput, over, relegated to the trashbin of History.
Even if they disconnect the Internet, activate the 5G, etc etc – this is a Turning. All mankind is rapt. When even Vucic stiffs the AZE (he remembers what happened to Quisling)..
Whither the Empire of Lies?
– Medvedev was being too gentle: EU gas already at $1400 Euros / Cubic Meter and rising. And this before Biden was given his first stimulant of the day..
– oil over $100/barrel; gold upticking and over $1,900
– These sanctions from Hell being rolled out now.. will destroy what remains of the West. The sheeple have not been told: the Target is the West; Russia is sanctions-proof. Papa Schwab is smirking in a bunker somewhere under the Alps or under Lake Geneva. Mission accomplished.
– Novorossiya is born.. (area in pink)
https://www.moonofalabama.org/11i/ukradded.jpg
Dear Mrs A,
I saw MoA had same idea with Novorossiye (I am still catching up)! I had used his map from several days ago. I am so excited to see this fascist abscess lanced. And Nazis & Co will lose entire Black Sea/Azov coasts. And solves water problems for Auslander et al, and a land bridge to besieged Transnistria. Beautiful. I am about to expire from happiness
And MoA asks the same pregnant Q as Mr P, “It is difficult to discern what the planed end state of this operation is. Where is this going to stop?” As I noted before, Russian operations tend to end @ the capitals of the C&C orcs.. we hope gradually, in measured ways, without leading to blotting out of the sun for months.
btw, are you receiving Patreon donations ok? I can send receipt if needed. I don’t think they play games like Playpal.
Some major “detail” is missing here, in the formal statements….
Let us not forget: above all, the mission is to “DENAZIFY” Ukraine. It includes arresting, charging, judging and condemning most severely ALL those monstrous creatures who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity prior to, during and after the 2014 (Maidan) coup d’état!!!
Poet Olga Bergholtz:
“Никто не забыт
Ничто не забыто”
“Nobody is forgotten
Nothing is forgotten”
Piskarevskoe Memorial Cemetery, Leningrad
Heard Mark Milley on NPR this morning. he basically said US and NATO has left Ukraine hung out to dry and VVP would certainly take all of Ukraine if he wants
There was ofcourse a spin to all that, but he seemed more sober in what he said compared to all the bloviation on US media
ofc, NPR interviewed Nina Khrushcheva and asked about what her grandpa did. She really did not know a lot of history or anything
In my view Putin devised a four part plan about a year ago. It is based on Brer Rabbit. (And China is on board with it. Putin met Xi the day the request for guarantees were delivered on Dec 15.)
Step 1 – Ask the USA and NATO for reasonable security guarantees, knowing they will respond by doing the opposite of what was asked. (Please don’t throw me in the briar patch!)
Step 2 – Recognize the LDPR and sign a treaty to defend them. If Ukraine keeps shelling civilians, which they did, then defang Ukraine.
Step 3 – Lay a trap for USA/NATO by telling them not to interfere. (Please don’t throw me in the briar patch part 2) NATO will do the opposite, at which time Russia will do a military op against NATO with the objective of discrediting the USA military, probably by sinking a carrier group.
Step 4 – introduce a new gold payments system to replace the USD for energy and trade.
Currently the first two steps are completed. Next it remains to be seen if NATO backs down or chooses to get decapitated.
I’d hope nothing like Step 3 happens, simply because I’m not a fan of nuclear holocaust. Simply being patient and Step 4 or something similar is inevitable.
The British carrier is the vulnerable one because it does not have nuclear propulsion.
The Russians will not wish to make the Eastern Med. radioactive.
https://www.asiasociety.org/files/Stickfast-Motif.pdf Tar Baby…actually a very old story with oriental and African sources.
Indeed, yes, I agree.
At the pub I overheard two fellas…they said ” denazification phase 2.0 takes place on the Oder, and phase 3.0 in Potomac and 4.0 on the Themes.
Iacta alea est … but the process has a natural rate…
There are two separate operations:
1) L/DNR operation to liberate the occupied parts of the former oblasts. No Russian forces are involved, only artillery support. (Huge Smerch strike on the Lugansk front.)
2) Russian operation to A) demilitarize B) denazify Ukraine. Phase 2A seems to be almost finished. 2B needs boots on the ground.
Artists from Russia are against Putin’s initiative: Maksim Galkin, Valery Meladze, Zemfira Ramazanova, Ksenia Sobchak, etc:
“We are all stuck in this situation now. No way out. We Russians will deal with the aftermath of what happened today for many years to come. Now I will only believe in worst-case scenarios, although I have always been optimistic.”
Russia will now have to deal with the 6 columns. Putin will need God very much, because he will face opposition outside and inside the country.
This generation of superficially intelligent Russians, do not see the big picture, have been infected by the West.
For so long, self-proclaimed victors and history writers have been Western powers, ie US and UK.
Europe/EU, not original content creators, just obedient followers retweeting Washington DC.
Wanton violence or genocide dressed up as war against terror, supporting democracy and so on.
Russia is finally putting an end to this entitlement and putting up a live performance for a change.
And the west is not accepting it. And why would they? No child likes to be lectured by grown ups, especially not entitled spoiled brats. The west is that brat. It deserves to get stripes on its bare buttocks.
The strategic picture seems to show a main thrust in the South of Ukraine, supplemented by secondary thrusts towards Kiev and Kharkov and minor thrusts along the rest of the border including the Donbass LOC. It’s particularly interesting that advancing beyond the LOC seems to be something the Donbass forces seem to be taking largely onto themselves. It’s also interesting that US sources speak of only 75 aircraft being employed and not the full range of Russian EW capabilities being employed either.
Striking in the South seems to make a lot of sense since it opens up three directions simultaneously: northward towards Kiev, eastward towards the Donbass and westward towards Odessa and Transnistria.
But it all seems somewhat limited. It’s logical that not all of the EW capabilities can be put on display but only 75 aircraft? Short of Russia not being able to deploy more aircraft, could it be that the real targets are the missile bases in Poland and Romania?
PLEASE MOVE THIS OPEN THREAD TO THE ONE I OPENED ABOVE.
Thank you
Andrei
This morning a tiny bit of the “fog of war” is clearing and we see that some of the happy news from last night was just fake news. Examples,Odessa was not liberated,and nether was Mariupol,in fact Ukie missiles fired from there have struck 2 Russian commercial ships in the Azov Sea.
What is most important now is to not “grasp the fruits of defeat from the jaws of victory”. Russia has lost the propaganda war so far in the West. Ukraine is portrayed in 24/7 propaganda as the “martyred victim of the Russian brute”. I’ve been seeing that BS in the media all morning,and it won’t change for the rest of the day and night.And as Saker has said in the past Russian propaganda isn’t good. Too many 5th and 6th column elements infest the Russian media,as we can see even today on RT.
So what should be done? Well most importantly,don’t lose the war,continue to victory. And then you are the one that sets the narrative, not your enemy. Putin said they wanted to de-nazify and de-militarize Ukraine. You can’t do that if you don’t fully defeat your enemy and replace the neo-nazi influenced regime with a new free pro-Russian government. Nothing else will give Russia victory,and don’t let anybody fool you that it will.If Russia just signs an “agreement”,a new Minsk,with the same Ukrainian regime and thinks that will work. Then they have lost the war.
Once the Ukrainians are off the hook,they will be even more anti-Russian and pro-NATO than ever. And NATO will use that as an excuse to test Russia even more.Only a liberated Ukraine with a pro-Russian neutral government will give Russia the victory they need for the future.And show Russians that Russia was right to go into Ukraine. Otherwise we will see another “frozen conflict” even worse than before. Russia needs to ask itself was not affecting regime change in Georgia better for Russia. Georgia today is not at all friendly to Russia,and Russia must always worry about that part of their border. Georgia has never renounced the desire to join NATO,and NATO still talks about them joining in the future. So no,Russia did not gain from not forcing regime change there. Don’t make that same mistake today with Ukraine.
Do the “sanctions” US White House Resident Biden imposed hurt Putin in any way? What about the so-called “personal sanctions” over Putin’s wealth?
Any idea if such a thing is possible?
YouTube Daboo77 says a rumor in the black sea is a Turkish ship headed for Ukraine has been bombed.
He seems like a Christian nutbag on mushrooms.
President Putin seems to be ready to negotiate the terms of surrender with Ukraine:
https://www.rt.com/russia/550505-kremlin-presents-demands-kiev/
I live in Canada and the shock has generated a deafening silence “among the population! And the same in the EU where I have friends. I hope that President Putin can really lead to the de-nazification of Ukraine. Also if Zelinsky had” a bit of a brain. “he should start negotiating with President Putin to see if he can save what he can. We truly live in very interesting times !! Stocks are down.
Biden authorized “long term impact sanctions” on Russia.
RT.com is not loading. They are also playing with its secure connection
Wonder how this reflects on the Balkans… Maybe This is a good time to remind everyone that for some 1000 years the West/Vatican/Franks/Anglos have been waging war against the Slavic/Orthodox parts of Europe. Looks like the 2022 marks the beginning of the halt of the western expansion once and for all, at least that is what I wish happens as it would address the injustice, expose the truth and result ultimately in happier Europe and happier world by extension. Russians and Serbs have long been fed up with all the genocides, lies, deceit, dishonesty, aggression and other forms of animosity, but now, god willing, the Russians can see this and liberate the Eastern and South Eastern Europe from the nazi scum propped up and encouraged by the Vatican. The rest will fall in. Can’t see them maintaining this idiotic narrative to do first and foremost to do with Serbia and Russia, but particularly to do with COVID and the accompanying push to totalitarianism, which is very ambitious and wants the world, no less. I predict this evil becomes visible when its teeth are kicked in. No glee there, but they have been asking for it for too long.
America’s losingest General, Cosplay Killmore, has surrendered a footlocker full of sabres in the Donbass. Here’s his brief update:
https://fivegunswest.blogspot.com/2022/02/hitler-reacts-to-russia-invading.html
Also, Paul Joseph Watson with World War Woke:
https://youtu.be/MHXuHpaEwgE
I’m from a selfdefined neutral western country, to me the Russian Federation is doing the right thing regarding the Ucraina problem. What makes me worry is the aftermath of this, let’s call it chapter one. Chapter two and three are quite worrysome considering the sociopathes and psicopathes that fill our élites in the West. Still have hope.
Best regards.
I wonder if the US/CIA have removed whatever bioweapons they were working on in the DTRA outsourced bioweapons labs around Kiev and in Odessa.
RT.com is blocked in Canada.
Anyone can confirm elsewhere?
Hello, I am south of you in the USA in Ozarks of Missouri… what are you interested in. I seem to get it here.
A screenshot of the front page.
https://i.postimg.cc/ZK27H1TN/Screenshot-2022-02-24-at-16-08-01-RT-Breaking-news-shows-podcasts.png
I can still get RT in Ontario. I use Brave.
“selling over $1.5BN worth of weapons” Plus the $6 billion tank deal to Poland.
Yes, they should liberate all, except the west-ukraine (which is historically part of the Lithuanian-Polqnd empire. Where the neonazi coup groups which usa used as proxy, come from.
So free ukraine from the coup-groups. And set up a hard line between the Lviv-region from rest of the real ukraine.
Lviv has been like a giant cancer for ukraine for a very long time.
Let lviv rot in their own soup in their new “neonazi”-stateparadise in the west.