OPEN THREAD to discuss Syrian situation, the A321, the Paris Attacks, and Ukraine

nmb on November 20, 2015 · at 1:27 pm EST/EDT

Barbarians – fools – hypocrites to the bone …

http://bit.ly/1j6ze6g

Mohamed on November 20, 2015 · at 1:35 pm EST/EDT

Salam C I eh? and Mulga Mumblebrain,

I have left you both responses to your comments in the following thread:

/southfront-foreign-policy-diary-what-the-nov-13-paris-attacks-mean/

Please let me have your views here.

Best regards,

Mohamed.

C I eh? on November 20, 2015 · at 9:51 pm EST/EDT

Well done.

For those wondering, Mohamad has conclusively demonstrated accusations concernig Iranian involvement in the downing of Pan Am flight over Lockerbie, Scotland, are/were made by professional Five Eyes propagandists and are therefore patently false.

When in doubt concerning AngloZionist media accusations directed at persons or nations under attack, it is good to be familiar with the concept of Zionist projection.

When Hezbollah comes under attack they respond by directly assaultig the aggressor, as they did in a recent operation against an Israeli military convoy on occupied territory. Violent self defense against an aggressor is always perfectly legitimate and necessary. Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, Russia and others, most commonly Shia, never murder innocent people to exact revenge. To do so would violate their core values and empower their enemies.

Zionists and Anglo establishmentarians, both actively and passively, violate this principle at all times because their own core values are supremacist and genocidal. It is critical that we learn not to repeat their lies if we are ever to defeat them and save ourselves.

Rest assured, when the AngloZionist Empire builders are done their murderous rampage against mostly brown people and Muslims, they will be turning their attention to YOU. Whatever they bring to the streets of Syria or Palestine, will eventually be brought to the streets of New York, Toronto or Paris. Based on past behaviour, it is guaranteed and only a question of timing.

Learn to occupy the space between your own ears or else you will be defenseless when false accusations are made against you. Remember this is how the enemies of truth operate at all times and is the very foundation of their legal system. Even worse, your failure to stand with truth will ensure no one will believe in your innocence because they, like you, are unable to think clearly or for themselves.

(Not directed at Mulga)
- Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 4:09 am EST/EDT
  
  CI eh, I certainly agree with your observations that it is the West that is the expert in cold-blooded murder of civilians. Millions, tens of millions of them, with an attitude towards their victims summed up in the expression ‘collateral damage’ and Madeleine Albright’s evil observation that the murder of 500,000 Iraqi children was ‘worth it’. Of course there is a considerable degree of straight psychological projection in the West accusing its victims of all sorts of atrocities, while hypocritically screeching about their ‘Western moral values’. I may have been swayed by the argument refuting the West’s framing of Libya, and forgotten that Iran might also have been framed. I’ll read Mohamed’s evidence again.
- Mohamed on November 21, 2015 · at 4:09 am EST/EDT
  
  Salam C I eh?,
  
  C I eh? quote: “(Not directed at Mulga)”
  
  Some people are excellent writers like Saker, you and others. Thanks for putting my thoughts into context.
  
  Yes the core valves, if one gives them up then one is nobody. When Iraq began using mustard gas in 1983 against Iran, Grand Ayatollah Khomeini was advised by some of his Satanic advisers to retaliate kind with kind. He flatly refused. People on this site compare Saddam with Assad (Lion) for the following reasons.
  
  1. Both control the Baathist Parties in their respective countries.
  2. Both are Secularist.
  
  In Saddam case the above is nothing but pure BS. Saddam was never a secularist. He was brought by The Empire to destroy both Iran and Iraq.
  
  Here is the chain of events:
  
  01. Shah of Iran flees into exile on 16 January, 1979
  02. Ayatollah Khomeini returns to Iran on 1 February, 1979.
  03. Saddam Hussein becomes the President of Iraq on July 16, 1979.
  04. The Iran–Iraq War began when Iraq invaded Iran via air and land on 22 September, 1980.
  05. Ayatollah Khomeini becomes the Supreme Leader of Iran on 3 December, 1979.
  06. The war Iran-Iraq finally ended after 8 years on 20 August, 1988.
  07. From the events it can be concluded that Saddam was brought in power by The Empire to make war on Iran so to bleed Iran of its Military Powers and Resources. Under Shah Iran was the most powerful country in The Middle East due to him being The Puppet of The Empire.
  08. Iraq invaded Kuwait on 2 August, 1990.
  09. The First Gulf War was from 2 August, 1990 until 28 February, 1991.
  
  The rest is history. Since Saddam Hussein assumed the Presidency of Iraq until he was deposed, he killed many, many Shia including their Marjas like Grand Ayatollah Khoie (the teacher of Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani), Grand Ayatollahs Sadr (2 brothers) and many more. Youtube is witness to this.
  
  The Shia who were in majority in Iraq were not allowed to practice their religion. The Capital for Shia Islam is in Najaf, Iraq. Four of their twelve imams are buried in Iraq. Yearly, 30 to 40 millions Shia visit Iraq (Najaf, Karbala and North of Iraq) for pilgrimage to their imams.
  
  Best regards,
  
  Mohamed.
  - queue on November 23, 2015 · at 11:19 am EST/EDT
    
    Let’s not forget that Khomeini returned from the west where he was groomed and financed and was just yet another color-revolution puppet used to remove the Shah.
Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 4:00 am EST/EDT

Mohamed, thank-you for your kind regards. I was convinced by seeing the Maltese Double-Cross and reading Megrahi’s biography and from numerous other sources, that Libya was framed. I also read of the guilt of Iran for a good period after the atrocity. Of course, I do not know for certain, and it could be a false flag to blame Iran, but I haven’t seen any evidence for that, but it certainly wouldn’t surprise. I would like to think that Iran would not stoop to killing civilians, but it still looks like that is what happened. As for Iran, it’s not my idea of an ideal society, but none is. What it is like for Iranians I cannot say, but I do know that the regime of the Shah was worse, Saudi Arabia is worse, Israel is worse and the USA is worse in my estimation, but that is not setting the bar very high.

Dagfinn Klausen on November 20, 2015 · at 2:05 pm EST/EDT

Syria A321 Paris and now Mali is taking focus away from the upcoming Climate Conference in Paris.

If this is by design, we may expect a binding International Treaty to be signed this time. It will be based on the combination of fraudulent scientific proof and data. It will potentially include

– Global tax on CO2 that will enrich the Elite, and starve the poor by increased food-prices
– Leagell rights of National States will be transferred to Non organizations/multinational entities controlled by non elected officials

Expect the media will go crazy with headlines like “Historic” – “Politicians take responsibility” – “Start of a greener and safer World” etc
Expect buildings and landmarks around the World being light up in all shades of green

We will have an answer shortly.

Marcel Leutenegger on November 20, 2015 · at 5:23 pm EST/EDT

If the result will be a binding treaty, there would be at least a result, finally. Given all the meager non-results of past negotiations, I do not believe it until signed and in effect.

If a global polluter tax would be imposed, it would be the first global action to effectively reduce the wasting of non-renewable resources. Let us not forget that most – if not all – major wars are waged exactly because states are (or are thinking of) running low on resources. Hence, a global polluter tax would be good news.
- chimmy on November 20, 2015 · at 6:13 pm EST/EDT
  
  Kinda gonna have to disagree a bit; the biggest polluter is the US military — what may very well be/become the global warrior caste. Any laws put forth by the priestly caste will protect the system — the peace otherwise known as desolation.
  - DavidB on November 20, 2015 · at 9:34 pm EST/EDT
    
    US Military = “global warrior caste”
    
    Are you some kind of comedian?
    - chimmy on November 20, 2015 · at 10:29 pm EST/EDT
      
      I defer to motto of the USN: A Global force for Good.
  - Marcel Leutenegger on November 20, 2015 · at 9:36 pm EST/EDT
    
    I agree that the biggest polluter in the US is the military complex. Among many other toxic legacies, the military is responsible for most of the radioactive contamination. Directly through irresponsible disregard of waste disposal and indirectly through the troubles caused by civil nuclear power, which I consider an appendix to the nuke production.
    
    A polluter tax may be very effective in abolishing the current over-consumption of public goods. The quality of the air we breathe, the water we drink and the arable land we grow our food is in serious jeopardy. It is crucial though to implement a polluter tax without loopholes. Hence, no exceptions!
    
    For instance, we could enforce an extraction fee to be paid by whoever is exploiting a non-renewable resource at the time of extraction. The revenues of this tax should then be bound to fund the very replacement of this resource. Thereby, the more a polluting activity would be pursued, the quicker it would become obsolete.
    
    The very least the global community should agree upon, is to put an extraction tax on fossil fuels in the order of 300€ per ton of CO2. This tax must be serious enough in order to get rid of your oil, gas and coal addiction in time. If not used for funding the energy transition, the revenues of this tax should be redistributed globally as equal amount per person, thereby at least achieving a redistribution of wealth from over- to under-consumers.
- Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 6:34 pm EST/EDT
  
  fyi Prelude to Paris: Four Tragic Tactics By President Obama and Four Climate Justice Proposals He Must Support
  
  http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/18/prelude-to-paris-four-tragic-tactics-by-president-obama-and-four-climate-justice-proposals-he-must-support/
  
  “In my assessment, the US tactical plan is to prevent any strong commitment in Paris that will expose the paucity of its own proposals…The President and the EU have set the ground rules for Paris that prohibit any legally binding agreements such as Kyoto – which the US had refused to ratify…”
  - Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 5:44 am EST/EDT
    
    Anon, 6.34 Obama sabotaged Copenhagen so I rather expect him to do likewise at Paris. My belief is that the global parasite elite, centred in the West, see catastrophic anthropogenic climate destabilisation as a means to cause a Holocaust of ‘useless eaters’, whose extinction they have plotted for generations. Just how they intend surviving themselves is the interesting question. There genocidal credentials are impeccable.
Merv on November 21, 2015 · at 1:39 pm EST/EDT

Climate Change has been hijacked by the 1% and is being used as the ultimate global scam. When Goldman Sachs and the Guardian are backing “action on climate change” you know something is up
TooLegit2Quit on November 21, 2015 · at 8:51 pm EST/EDT

@ Dagfinn Klausen:

“– Global tax on CO2 that will enrich the Elite, and starve the poor by increased food-prices
– Leagell rights of National States will be transferred to Non organizations/multinational entities controlled by non elected officials” + “Expect the media will go crazy with headlines like “Historic” – “Politicians take responsibility” – “Start of a greener and safer World” [etc]”

Sounds about right, while the world looks the other way… they’ll be signing their dirty deals behind close doors alright, TTIP will shortly follow no doubt.

What I’d like to ask these ‘warmists,’ who seem so over preoccupied with the world getting a couple (or less) degrees hotter… what are they planning to do about the people with stagnant wages who can hardly afford bare necessities as it is, let alone these yuppie, “green” hipster taxes which will find their way into everything… fuel, public transport, trash removal, food, utility bills, water rates… you name it.

What about the pensioners who can’t afford to heat their homes right NOW, and are dying by the thousands each year due to hypothermia? They’re a small price to pay to “save the Earth,” apparently…

While I’m not surprised at the Corporate World to be seeking to make even more money out of something as naturally occurring as carbon dioxide [*carbon dioxide is what all living things – including plants – expel as a bio-product of respiration. No respiration = dead, btw]; the bourgeoisie ‘I’m alright Jack’ types make me even sicker in their support of corporate agendas designed to snuff-out the lives of even more people than they do now, and they do this while riding their “green” high horses.

Evil little sh!ts, that’s all they are.

They’re the ‘white’ version of Malcom X’s house nig*er. Quote: “The house Negro usually lived close to his master. He dressed like his master. He wore his master’s second-hand clothes. He ate food that his master left on the table. And he lived in his master’s house–probably in the basement or the attic–but he still lived in the master’s house.

So whenever that house Negro identified himself, he always identified himself in the same sense that his master identified himself”

http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html

-TL2Q
- Dagfinn Klausen on November 21, 2015 · at 10:03 pm EST/EDT
  
  In my opinion, You nailed it.
  
  While “The World looks the other way” – Propaganda, Terrorism and “Geoengineering” has been being forced upon us for half a century…
  
  “Geoengineering, The Ultimate Weapon In The Toxic War On Humanity And Mother Earth”.
  
  http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-the-ultimate-weapon-in-the-toxic-war-on-humanity-and-mother-earth-how-to-protect-yourself-in-this-escalating-battle/
- Anonymous on November 23, 2015 · at 9:53 pm EST/EDT
  
  One word for the Tool&c: lawsofphysics.
  - TooLegit2Quit on November 25, 2015 · at 10:28 pm EST/EDT
    
    “One word for the Tool&c: lawsofphysics”
    
    First of all… ‘Laws of Physics’ are three words, not one.
    
    Funny how the almighty “laws of physics” seem to only apply to things like the weather… but simpler mathematics don’t apply to things like; wages, cost of living, inflation calculations [which routinely exclude the most basic necessities such as housing, fuel, utilities bills, transport, even food…] loss of purchasing power per currency unit… (etc)
    When it’s linked to the plight of the working-poor, all over sudden; simple maths cease to exist, never mind the fancier “laws of physics”…
    
    … so I have two words for you Anon; and one of them is OFF.
    
    -TL2Q
Anonymous on November 22, 2015 · at 3:31 am EST/EDT

Why would Russia go along with that? It would seem to be the PERFECT opportunity to strike back against those who are funding IS and destroyed Ukraine.

If the BRICSA block or any part thereof says no then it’s off.
BRF on December 09, 2015 · at 3:53 am EST/EDT

Mali was another provocation against China and Russia as several top transportation executives from each country (total nine) were targeted and killed in this attack. As for Paris the puppets assembled there will play the stage for the folks back home but until the corporate have their ducks in a row to profit and drive agenda from the event nothing of importance will take place. You do know that global warming as a sole anthropogenic causation has suffered so much damage to its scientific reputation by honourable and reputable scientists that its lies are now becoming more and more known for what they appear to be a pseudo science. Not denying there is very limited warming but is it anthropogenic, natural or in what combination? And no doubt carbon energies can be dangerous to use , acidification of oceans, overuse of fertilizers from oil, but again where is the honest science? Here’s one just to start your re-education with…as I had to…https://www.corbettreport.com/the-ipcc-exposed-video/

Outlaw Historian on November 20, 2015 · at 2:40 pm EST/EDT

b at MOA has published another scoop outing PBS propaganda in its reporting about the alleged air strike against Daesh oil tankers by Outlaw Empire, http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/pbs-uses-russian-airstrike-videos-to-claim-us-airstrike-successes.html

This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so damned serious. And whoever did the deed at PBS ought to be separated from employment.

Stavros H on November 20, 2015 · at 8:39 pm EST/EDT

It is quite astonishing.

There is absolutely no bottom in the US propaganda machine’s willingness to use all kinds of lies and misinformation in order to blur the waters of what they are in reality doing. Both in the Ukraine and the ME.

As much as American propaganda has taken more than its fair share of credit in relation to the defeat of Nazism, at least in that case they did fight against Hitler, and they provided material help to the USSR. But now? Now they have created, enabled and aided ISIS, but are already positioning themselves to take the credit for its eventual defeat.
- Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 5:51 am EST/EDT
  
  Stavros, in fact the USA had contacted Nazis from 1943, in order to take over the leadership of global fascism from them. They ensured that West Germany was a Nazi successor state, with very little, and cosmetic, de-Nazification. They took over the Nazi Gehlen intelligence network in Eastern Europe and kept the Ukrainian fascist guerillas supplied into the 1950s. They provided refuge and employment as terrorists and torturers for thousands of fascists and Nazis like Barbie in Bolivia. And they set out to destroy independent nationalism everywhere in the Third World. As a black US service-man told my then youthful father during WW2, ‘The USA is the Fourth Reich’.
  - Straight-Bat on November 21, 2015 · at 12:33 pm EST/EDT
    
    Not only that, post-1945 the West German government offices were manned by Nazi-period officers who will be more than one-third of the total officers in the ministry/department.
    For the high-ranking Nazi officials, whose involvement could be otherwise proven easily during Nuremburg trails, USA (joined by UK, Canada, Italy, France) arranged for ‘safe heaven’ in South American continent, USA, and Canada – it is called as ‘Ratlines’.
    
    USA-Canada-UK-Australia-NZ (all 5-Eyes countries) are true inheritors of Nazi Fascism (history also tells that Hitler and his ‘ism’ rose to power in Germany planned by – aided by – abated by the AngloZionist clique based in these countries)

GrandmaR on November 20, 2015 · at 2:57 pm EST/EDT

“I provided examples related to our data on the financing of Islamic State units by natural persons in various countries. The financing comes from 40 countries, as we established, including some G20 members.” –VV Putin

Key words: “… by natural persons….” Always, Putin’s words are carefully chosen. Guessing countries doesn’t get it for me. I want names of those “natural persons.” Countries and corporations, inanimate entities, are not evil. Natural persons are. I want the names, along with the evidence.

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 4:44 pm EST/EDT

I agree. This is more close-up and personal. Perhaps, possible to reciprocate.
eimar on November 20, 2015 · at 9:37 pm EST/EDT

GrandmaR,

What’s the odds on ‘Rothschild’,Murdoch, Soros or Rockefeller featuring among them?
SanctuaryOne on November 21, 2015 · at 12:18 am EST/EDT

Surely Wikileaks providers or Anonymous could hack into that G20 information revealed by Putin and publish those ‘natural persons names’?
- Anonymous on November 21, 2015 · at 12:02 pm EST/EDT
  
  “Surely Wikileaks providers or Anonymous could hack into that G20 information revealed by Putin and publish those ‘natural persons names’?”
  
  Patience is often a virtue.
  - SanctuaryOne on November 21, 2015 · at 5:06 pm EST/EDT
    
    I want ‘patience’ now.
    - Anonymous on November 22, 2015 · at 11:03 am EST/EDT
      
      “I want ‘patience’ now.”
      
      As a probable spectator your wants are likely of limited concern to “actors”.
      
      Some who deem themselves to be “actors” rarely exhibit patience thereby often rendering themselves spectators.
      
      The impatience of opponents is a useful vector in their transcendence.

vot tak on November 20, 2015 · at 3:05 pm EST/EDT

Looks like Israelis got their way again. Pollard was released from prison today.

Jaro on November 20, 2015 · at 3:56 pm EST/EDT

Yes they got Pollard, and right now Congress and the White House are working together to ensure that the annual tribute of $3B that US taxpayers pay to the Zionist entity is increased to $5B. All this from a country TRILLIONS in debt.

Releasing Pollard and increasing the tribute is the price demanded in return for the Obama/US not waging war on Iran.

Members of Congress are already lining up to demand that the ”onerous” requirements of his parole be lifted so that he can go home to Israel……and this too will be duly granted!!!!

“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”

Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3, 2001
- Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 5:56 am EST/EDT
  
  Jaro the manner in which the Jews have taken over US politics, business, MSM and entertainment is surely unprecedented in history. A mighty achievement. And the rest of the West, now, as well. Some countries, like Canada and France are so completely controlled it’s almost funny. The question must be-what comes next? And what will they do about China, which will never be so subjugated.
Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 4:15 pm EST/EDT

Remember the Liberty. Maybe now the people of the US and the families of the men who were killed during that strafing attack will get an apology from the Israeli government.
Miller on November 20, 2015 · at 5:12 pm EST/EDT

Heard reporting of this on NPR. They were interviewing some Israeli politician who stated US longstanding refusal to release Pollard up to this point had damaged Israeli trust in their special relationship.

I couldn’t (almost) believe my ears – there are many injustices in this world, tax money stolen from me to give to the Israeli government while they respond with insult and arrogance is near the top.
- Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 6:02 am EST/EDT
  
  The arrogance grows out of Judaism, and the belief that they are Chosen, and an elite amongst humanity. Hence all the crap about Ashkenazi Jews being the most intelligent people on Earth, and the constant harping on about Nobel prizes etc. Of course Jewish achievement, in science, the arts, literature etc, is tremendous, but so is French, German, British, Russian, Indian, Chinese etc. Of course not all Jews think alike, but the arrogant, xenophobic, supremacist types are, I’d say, without parallel in their hyper-chauvinism and contempt for others.
Peter J. Antonsen on November 20, 2015 · at 5:44 pm EST/EDT

vot tak on November 20, 2015 · at 3:05 pm UTC
“Looks like Israelis got their way again. Pollard was released from prison today.”

The Truth is often Stranger than Fiction.

One more evidence that the US of America is a servile-client-state of the Jewish Financiers, Rothschilds, & other wealthy Zionist Oligarchs, and their military base in Occupied Palestine, is their freeing of the American Zionist Traitor – Spy -Jonathan Pollard.

America’s President, Netenyahoo, has recently spoken to his Congress of servile wealthy slaves in Washington DC. They channel hundreds of $Billions to the Zionist Financial Elite, as well as bankroll the Land Thieve’s terrorist state in Palestine.

The Pretender, Obomber, is merely a 2nd rate actor who portrays a -fictitional Constitutional American President, as he previously portrayed a -fictitional pseudo Arab terrorist, ‘Bin Laden.’ Just like Superman, and Clark Kent, Obomber and Bin Laden were never seen at the same place at the same time.

The loss of America’s Sovereignty was one result of the destruction of America’s Democratic Republic on November 22, 1963. The Zionist Terrorist MOSSAD were the major architects of the assassination and destruction of the independent American state. Their murder of Robert Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin L. King, and many others was part of their ongoing effort to consolidate the political and economic gains of the Coup d’etat in Dallas.

The Zionist’s effort to construct a uni polar totalitarian financial empire (using as political cover a humanistic pretense of a one-world lovy dovy humane association such as the EU-IMF), came close, but tripped over one unforseen obstacle. The obstacle was the innate stubborness (refusal) of humans to bow. The Zionists failed to destroy Russia. They weakened it. They humiliated it. They Yeltsoned and Pussy Rioted it. But they failed to destroy its pride, its love, its spirit. And after Georgia, Crimea, Novorossiya, and the Russian Air Corps in Syria, (did I mention the Russian Air Corps in Syria?)……

Our Americans have lost their Freedom, their Sovereignty, and their Pride.

But, if our brothers and sisters in Russia could get it together, so can we.

For the Democratic Republics!

IMAGINE
- Uncle Bob 1 on November 21, 2015 · at 12:35 am EST/EDT
  
  It would take an American Spring or an actual revolution like in Donbass,except nationwide in the US to bring the change you seek.I don’t see anybody in the US with the nerve to stage that.There are countless people that talk of it.There are dozens of tiny groups disaffected in society.But none of them are united.And they hold a myriad of political views usually somewhere on the far right.So I’m not sure they would be the right ones anyway.It all reminds me of the words in a song “too much talk,too little action”.
  - Ann on November 21, 2015 · at 6:25 am EST/EDT
    
    but I don’t think that even if the truthers were united that they are capable of taking down the USA military.
    
    Its the military that has to revolt..actually…
    
    And the fact that we are all getting into the ‘real deal’ is huge….too bad it didn’t happen a century ago, before their (the hegemon’s) power was so structured and secure. There are many people within the military that also feel used and abused…

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 3:50 pm EST/EDT

“OPEN THREAD to discuss Syrian situation, the A321, the Paris Attacks, and Ukraine”

Whilst it would be difficult to contend that this is the “news” overwriting the “olds”, syntheses have utility including in areas of co-ordination, cross reference and deflection.

Thank you.

blue on November 20, 2015 · at 3:53 pm EST/EDT

New one today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjqFdf9LPmA

CrossTalk: Talking Syria
RT
Published on Nov 20, 2015

After a series of horrific terrorist attacks, a truly global coalition to fight and destroy ISIL is in the making. At the same time Washington continues to ignore those who are really doing the fighting, particularly Russia. Are arrogance and false pride the real barriers to peace in Syria?

CrossTalking with Pepe Escobar, Richard Murphy, and Mark Bruzonsky.

eimar on November 21, 2015 · at 6:48 pm EST/EDT

To arrogance and false pride you can add a pack of the most egregious distortions and outright lies this side of ‘freedom and democracy’ – an interview with Ash Carter:

http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/630067/discussion-on-global-security-in-the-21st-century-with-secretary-carter-at-the

Is it just me or does anyone else find his ‘folky’ style transparently at odds with his calculating, sociopathic brain? I’ve yet to read one of his awful ‘pep talks’ where he doesn’t get in a whine about the military budget..

If there were any really decent investigative journalists left in the US, they’d be digging for his corporate connections.

Mats on November 20, 2015 · at 4:02 pm EST/EDT

The UN GA third committee has voted against condemning glorification of fascism, nazism (US, Canada and Ukraine led against the condemnation), while the same group has voted against Russia and Iran involvement in Syria (the only legal intervention, by the way). This second resolution was led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar in behalf of the US and its vassals.

Until the weasel and vassal nations grow a set of gonads and vote against the Hegemon and its loyal slaves, the UNGA will remain a cesspool.

Putin and China are too busy right now to fix the UN, but it is on their agenda.

China, by the way, just finished a 56 day hunt and wipe out of 28 Uyghur terrorists (coordinated from outside Xinjiang and financed by CIA ETIM and probably Turkey.

http://english.cri.cn/12394/2015/11/20/3381s904992.htm

vot tak on November 20, 2015 · at 6:11 pm EST/EDT

Mats

“(US, Canada and Ukraine led against the condemnation)”

It looks like Trudeau isn’t straying from the zionazi path his predecessor followed and is just another Obama type “hope and change” purveying change for worse and the death of hope.
- Uncle Bob 1 on November 21, 2015 · at 12:52 am EST/EDT
  
  True! Its just foolishness to make the mistake of expecting an establishment figure in the West to stand against the US.Especially in a 5 eyes country.It just isn’t going to happen.At best,some of their policies won’t be totally subservient all the time.But any major disobedience is out of the question.Sadly,that is a mistake made by our side constantly.Thinking that “this time” it will be different.It never is,and then our disappointment is even more painful.Any figure that would really stand against them would never get elected.Or most times even come close.You’d think after the countless times we’ve been disappointed we’d learn better.But it never seems to work that way.
Mulga Mumblebrain on November 21, 2015 · at 6:07 am EST/EDT

Good news from Xinjiang. The General Assembly votes are simply unbelievable, but every state realises that disobeying the Global Thug-in-Chief risks having your country subverted or destroyed.

zweistein on November 20, 2015 · at 4:02 pm EST/EDT

PARIS 11/13

Ole Dammegard gives a detailed, calm, step by step 101 of all things suspicious about Paris 11/13. Well done!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0

Ted on November 21, 2015 · at 7:58 am EST/EDT

Zweistein, earlier this week Jack debunked my post with link of Tarpley video address to the French people (Tarpley saying this one is NOT a false flag, don’t be knee jerk…….) , by re-posting your post (Jack said he had done so 4 times, I believe….) which “exposed” by photo collage a female actress shown to weep and grieve at 4-5 different false flag venues from Boston to Sandy Hook to ??? and of course to Paris 11/13/15. Jack brought me up short and I decided to collect more data and maintain the tension of suspended judgment, saying to myself “OK, I don’t know! Apparently I am in over my head, and need to get my bearings and footing or I will surely err in any premature judgment.”

Interestingly, Ole’s host on your post’s video link raises the existence of this same multi-terror venue repeat performance actress toward the end of your post’s link to which I reply here ( I watched all 2 hours 7 minutes…..I recommend it!) and Ole discards the “actress” photos as a trap by the designers of these false flag manipulations! Corral the conspiracy nuts with the “actress” “evidence” then expose the fraud of the pictures (and have a tool to discredit and discourage much of the resistance to the manipulated narrative that falls for the trap as being incompetent conspiracy theory nuts swallowing a fake actress story, and so also convince many others it is just too murky and complex to even try to figure out….).

So I start last Friday suspecting Paris friday 13th false flag, experienced false flag dissector Tarpley changes my mind on Monday,maintaining “Not this time, guys!” Jack (and you) change my mind again, and then Ole Dammegard confirms a suspicion i did have about Jack’s reposting of your false flag actress post: Could the phony actress evidence ITSELF by faked, as a trap?? Absolutely!

Where am I now? I respect Tarpley who I have known about for 30 years, but I now think his substantial ego has clouded his judgment “this time” (too great an opportunity to show off his French in an emotional and not unintelligent but erroneous pontification!….also speaks German, Italian, and Italian sounding Spanish…..) and I am grateful for your link to Dammegard, who I never heard of before today. Yet, I lean toward Dammegard’s false flag thesis now, NOT because it’s the last thing I just finished watching, nor because of the many factoids presented in 2+ hours, but mainly because of Dammegard’s modesty, his LACK of ego! Ego can be THE biggest blind spot, after all!! Plus, the preponderance of evidence, not of factoids, but of the recognizable patterns and principles of manipulative method presented by Dammegard, The SMELL of evil manipulation of naive emotion!

But also ESPECIALLY his discarding of the fake actress trap, because that reinforces my own mind’s suspicion that Jack’s enthusiasm for your post re: the actress just might be the enthusiasm of some new hunter in training (like myself) gleefully falling for a trap. Many pitfalls. Patience. Tread slowly and carefully……..Besides developing a hunter’s sense of smell for the scent of the enemy’s methods, some small reassurances that your own mind could smell and avoid traps builds some confidence, that with study and patience we can cause the strategic manipulator magicians big problems by recognizing and exposing their tricks.

This stuff is not for the impatient sprinter after truth, but the patient hunter that will take years if necessary, on the scent, discard errors, avoid traps, etc, etc. Thanks to you and Jack and anyone else wants to try to catch up to and overcome the magician’s false flag tricks. As Ole said near the end, “We are many, they are few. They have to be nervous, like cockroaches fearing that the lights will come on and catch them in the open.”

A very worthwhile light switch, Zweistein! Jack did you watch it?

https://youtu.be/bN89lVPkli0
- Jack on November 21, 2015 · at 3:13 pm EST/EDT
  
  Ted on November 21, 2015 · at 7:58 am UTC
  
  I am watching it now Ted.
  
  Some people here may remember one of the first ISIS/ISIL/Daesh events of last year.
  
  James Foley beheaded against a totally fake background,outrage ! from all corporate media,all on the ‘same page’ [pun intended].
  
  Enter the crisis actors….brother and sister who can barely stop herself laughing.
  
  Mom and Pop,who are so distraught it’s like they just won the lottery !.
  
  ISIL turn up with the entire production line of Toyotas,pick a colour !
  
  On declaring the Caliphate,they open a Central Bank….right ! just the kind of thing terrorists do.
  
  Senator John McCain visits Kiev and ‘Cyber Berkut’ hack his WI-FI laptop…….release pictures of Foleys beheading stage scene,taken off his HD.
  
  “scene 1……. take 5…….Action”
  
  Whenever we get the ‘hard sell’ the cynic in me gets ramped 10 fold.
  
  cheers.
  - Jack on November 21, 2015 · at 4:02 pm EST/EDT
    
    To follow up….the Ole Dammegard video is looking good.
    
    Item.
    
    So far only second/third hand accounts of events.
    
    A quote in the bwitish media from supposed hospital doctors receiving patients,
    
    “Horrific injuries,bellies ripped open by machine gun fire,eyes gouged out,limbs amputated” etc etc.
    
    Hospitals never speak like that period ! ,they speak of conditions… being stable,or in a serious state or other clinical terminology.
    
    “They were spitting babies on bayonets”….or “They were throwing babies out of their incubators”
    
    Remember those ? same old wine in a ‘brand’ new bottle.
- eimar on November 21, 2015 · at 8:54 pm EST/EDT
  
  @Ted
  
  The claim that the same crisis actors show up at various atrocities is usually used to support ‘hoax’ claims.
  
  It provides no evidence as such of false flags – those who claim responsibility for the atrocity are just as capable of hiring actors too.
  
  The real question is – why would an elaborate state-sponsored hoax risk exposure by using the same actors? It’s not as if there arent hordes of unemployed out there who could do the job (and with little or no knowledge of what they are participating in..as was the case with the actors hired for the ‘Innocence of the Muslims’ film.)
  
  The focus on crisis actors as proof of hoax is foolish or disinfo. It is irrelevant to the question of false flag or not.
  - Ted on November 21, 2015 · at 10:56 pm EST/EDT
    
    Eimar, I agree. After considering the actress bit briefly, I had too much doubt about its real purpose, provability, etc to place any serious reliance on it. Thanks for expressing clear reasons for doubts that were there in me, although in much vaguer form than your points you just shared.
    
    Other elements that Ole Dammegard focuses on, rather than discarding with the actress story, struck me as 1000 times more promising.So he got my attention:
    
    For example, The recent purchase of the theater where most of the Nov 13 deaths were reported, as a way of “controlling the venue” (reminds me of Larry Silverstein buying WTC 7 and leasing the twin towers for 99 years just months before 9/11…..)for an upcoming terror media production, by a group Ole suggested were highly enough connected to be under major suspicion, as capable of playing the needed “movie set” owner role for the whole 11/13/15 operation.
    
    Stunning, but so is the Silverstein angle in Christopher Bollyn’s Solving 911 work, especially. It doesn’t explain everything, by a long shot. But “venue control” explains ONE important element of a vast, complicated false flag terror production so powerfully that I find difficult to discard yet, in either terror investigation.

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 4:39 pm EST/EDT

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/look-inside-putins-massive-new-military-command-and-con-1743399678?ref=yfp

the photos are interesting-the commentary less so, but consider the source

luigi on November 20, 2015 · at 4:41 pm EST/EDT

Attacks in Paris: a notice of declaration of war from US to Europe.
First a thought of sympathy for the victims, especially young people, of the attacks in Paris and Beyrut, as well as for the victims Iraqi, Syrian, Afghan, Libyan, Ukrainian … daughters of these decades of war policies of the US and NATO . As noted by Assad, Paris Friday 13 lived what the Syrians live every day for nearly five years. As much as the ISIS is a creature of the US and its environments neocons (Hillary Clinton: “Isis is our creature but we ran away from his hand” …), just as the attacks in Paris may have had the same direction . Germany is preparing to lift sanctions on Russia and to re-establish relations, France probably was deciding to follow, which would have resulted in the failure of the US policy that has as pillars the isolation of Russia, the encirclement of China The economic co-optation of Europe with TTIP. If Germany, France, Europe ristabilissero diplomatic relations, political, economic, with Russia, the US would suffer a major political disappointment and would risk international isolation of their warmongering policies. And ‘the axis Germany-France (and Europe to follow) is centered on Paris. It will be symbolic but the epicenter of the terrorist attacks was to be the stage where there were the friendly match France-Germany, and where there was Hollande, if the bombers were not rejected at the gates of the Stadium and forced to blow themselves up in the surrounding area. Recall that the previous attempt to prepare poor Charlie Hebdo took place just a day after Hollande had publicly voiced the intention of ririrare sanctions on Russia. Germany, in turn, is already under pressure with the US ‘attack on Volkswagen (Deutche Bank when?). Russia suffers from time penalties and warnings prancing on a large scale from ‘shooting down of the Sinai to’ expulsion of athletes from the next Olympic Games. From experience we know that the US will not make no qualms about leaving long streaks of blood along their path to supremacy exceptionalist. The message of the attacks can be read like this: If you, the French, Germans, Europeans plan to detach from our policy of war (including Syria) and sought relations with Russia, we will bring the war home, and we also use the Isis for portarvela.
France is the weakest link in that participated more than any other European country in the wars of destabilization US / NATO in Libya, Syria to drag herself to the south, in West Africa; his government, second only to the US, is Europe which has funded, trained, armed terrorist groups jadhisti that first overthrew Gaddafi (killed by French special forces), and then were transferred to Syria. Her ex-foreign minister felt natural to finance Al Qaeda in Syria even to overthrow Assad. The operation, however, failed. After the Russian intervention in Syria that has prevented a deadly no-fly zone and that is supporting the advance of beautifully Syrian Hezbollah and Iranian battalions, mercenaries jadhisti are in retreat, and with them forces them They have enrolled. The situation in Ukraine has stalled and the government imposed by the US is getting higher and attrition. Europeans are beginning to be reluctant to follow US policies. But now a change in the face of European and French is not tolerated, nor will the US by terrorists jadhisti to their service and their protectors States, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia.
Sanctions on Russia and the goal of the fall of Assad must remain: this I think is the message and warning contained in this act of war.
Google Traduttore

know the truth on November 20, 2015 · at 8:20 pm EST/EDT

Hi Luigi. I completely agree with your analysis, this is the way I read the attacks as well, plus the “exceptional” nation was expecting the attacks to be used to invoke article 5 of the NATO defence charter so they could openly pile into Syria to finally carry out their regime change agenda against the government of president Assad. In this context I particularly found it interesting that president Hollande chose to invoke instead the collective defence article of the EU, for the first time ever, rather than NATO article 5. The western MSM only briefly mentioned this in passing.
I have often said that what the US has for decades been doing to its target countries world wide it would also eventually end up doing to its “allies”, and its happening now. The seemingly sudden influx of refugees into Europe after nearly 5 years of war in Syria ( Erdogan emptying his refugee camps and pointing them in the direction of Europe), the sudden increase in terrorist incidents in France since the beginning of this year, these are no accidents, these are all calling cards of the empire of chaos. The Europeans badly need to understand that they are enemies of all humanity, but too many people in Europe are still asleep to the danger they face and are too busy squabbling amongst themselves over race and Islamophobia .
Penelope on November 21, 2015 · at 5:39 am EST/EDT

luigi,
Have you seen this? It’s by Russianvid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ajVk6hRn6s behind the theatre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_QH0WkBeP0 forensic investigation in the cafe. Note the windows are not broken after the shootout w police, people killed in the cafe, and the suicide bomber killing himself in the cafe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXavIbOQnZw Crisis actor @ 3:50. Photos of her appearances at Sandy Hook and at Boston Bombing.

REASONS to use a HOAX rather than a FALSE FLAG w injuries:
1. If you get caught, you don’t go to jail for murder.
2. It’s easier to persuade people to participate as actors for a “good cause” like gun control, to get tough on ISIS, to restrict immigration, etc. Besides, they get paid for it as crisis actors.
3. Safer than the real thing cuz everybody’s shooting blanks.
4. Commanding officer says I must; after all— what does it hurt? Anyway I have no choice.
5. A person once corrupted has less chance of refusal next time, even if it’s worse.
6. Costs much less to pay off investigators, police for a hoax, than for a massacre.
7. So much easier to control. No unpredictable proxies or patsies, no relatives of the dead to start lawsuits/investigations. You can even film some of it beforehand and release it “the day of”. You have absolute control of the “crime scene”, many populated only by your crisis actors; the other scenes can let civilians escape at once, etc.
- Jack on November 21, 2015 · at 10:54 am EST/EDT
  
  A good post.
  
  here posted several threads ago…..
  
  zweistein on November 15, 2015 · at 1:54 pm UTC
  
  Victoria Soto is one very unlucky girl.
  
  She was among the almost-victims of the Aurora shootings, all in tears at Sandy Hook. Then she just barely saved her life at the Boston Marathon bombing, and now, what a poor girl, almost got blown away in Paris again…
  
  https://www.facebook.com/kartenhausdesglaubens/photos/a.1524938097723628.1073741831.1524919127725525/1654703071413796/?type=3
  
  cheers
- Marcel Leutenegger on November 21, 2015 · at 11:36 am EST/EDT
  
  Whereas I agree with your comparison hoax versus real attack, I disagree with the interpretation of the first two videos.
  
  The first video shows two photos shot behind the theater. The first still image shows a woman hanging under a window ledge and a man getting out of a neighboring window. If I would want to leave the theater by climbing out of these windows, I would get out like the man, use the two bars and the ledge (like the woman) before letting go to jump down. The second image is taken from the street looking upwards. The “missing” bars are obstructed by the window ledges. Absolutely no mystery there.
  
  The second video discusses the scene at the cafe. The windows are intact but at least one bullet hole is clearly visible. I am quite sure there was no bomb blown off in/near the cafe. But if reports are true, that three drug dealers shot two attackers down when they walked into the cafe, the result may look as shown. The speaker correctly notes the smoking crime scene investigator (outside the cafe) and missing traces of blood in the cafe.
  
  In my opinion, neither of these two videos does prove that the attacks were a hoax.
  
  The third video is more interesting. If the same person – a relative of a news reporter – was present at three terror attacks, chances are high that it was not just coincidence. This would strongly indicate foreknowledge. However, it does not yield evidence on whether it was a hoax or real (no matter if make or let it happen applies).
  
  My personal take on our corrupt leaders is that mass surveillance first and foremost serves them as a tool to select their patsies. It must be quite easy to push an already radicalized person over the edge into action. Because authorities then know when and where carnage is going to happen, they can organize some anti-terror training the very same day.
  
  By the way, attacks like Paris or London are not difficult to organize. All you need is weapons, watches and a discussion over a beer regarding the targets. Even a group of lobotomized idiots could pull that off. The difficult part would be to escape the scene after the attack, but that is of no interest to suicide missionaries.
  - KM on November 21, 2015 · at 6:00 pm EST/EDT
    
    Well,the hoaxter’s have arrived.They show no respect for those souls that were lost in Paris.What a shame.Time to move on I guess.
    
    Saker,please be safe on your journey,and thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and insight.
    
    Take Care,
    
    KM

AriusArmenian on November 20, 2015 · at 4:56 pm EST/EDT

Will the recently tabled French UN resolution, if passed, be used by the usual Western suspects to have a Turkish backboned NATO army invade, occupy, and split off eastern Syria, and in the process provide cover for the Turks to destroy the Kurds?

Is Russian support for the resolution (if those reports are true) say that Russia will accept Syria being divided into a western Syrian government region and an eastern region called something or other that is effectively occupied, plowed and plundered by Turkey?

Can Russia control the situation such that the Syrian government can reoccupy eastern Syria upon destruction of Nusra and ISIS?

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 8:00 pm EST/EDT

Those are my questions, too.
Penelope on November 21, 2015 · at 6:59 am EST/EDT

Arius Armenian, The French resolution cannot pass, if only people realize that the attack was a HOAX. No one was killed. See my comment above w the video links that disprove part of it.

Here is another part of the hoax. This is the only photo made available of the inside of the theatre, w about 25 “bodies”. They are reticulated stage dummies whose faces are hidden. The site goes through it w you, explaining that people’s limbs relax in death, but dummies– unless really expertly positioned give themselves away.
Here is what reticulated dummies look like http://www.dappercadaver.com/products/amy-victim-stunt-dummy.html

Here they are dressed like real dead people http://nodisinfo.com/dead-people-france-concert-theater-dummies-not-real-humans/

If the disclosure that this entire thing is a hoax goes viral, we can stop the French resolution.

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 5:23 pm EST/EDT

The corridor—THE theme of critical next days Syria/Turkey/Kurds:

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/u-s-turkey-joint-operation-designed-to-save-isis-not-destroy-it.html

The Kurds have seized and now maintain control of an area that spans the Turkey-Syria border from its western to eastern extremities all except for one small pocket in the middle – from Jarablus in the East to Dabiq in the West. Others have described the zone in slightly different dimensions as being from Jarablus in the East to Afrin in the East. Regardless, this corridor, also known as a “safe zone,” is about the exact dimensions of the ISIS supply lines coming in from Turkey to Syria and, if either the Syrian military or the Kurds were able to capture this small section of land on the border, ISIS supply lines would be entirely cut from the North.

For that reason, the Turks are in no way going to assist in the sealing of Turkey’s border with Syria by the Kurds. Considering the reports coming from media outlets friendly to the Turkish government and the propaganda being spouted by Erdogan’s stooges in the Turkish ruling party, it is the Kurds who are considered the great enemy of Turkish “civilization” (meaning Erdogan’s delusions of grandeur) and not ISIS.

PS: Shocking to see Putin is so desperate & the hour so late that he sided in record time with the stinking Frenchies. Maybe he works on deadlines, too?

Because absolutely nothing comes close to conveying the rally cry “here comes your freedom!” to the bombed out denizens of a ransacked country, & a former French colony/playground at that, than the frenchies themselves showing up to help in the liberation.

datura on November 20, 2015 · at 6:22 pm EST/EDT

As for the corridor from Turkey, read RT:

“Russian cruise missiles hits ISIS from both Mediterranean & Caspian; 600 killed in one strike. Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) have been suffering huge losses as a result of the Russian offensive, Shoigu said, adding that data on the ground shows that the flow of terrorists arriving in Syria has decreased, while more and more militants are fleeing the warzone to head north and south-west.”

Wow, 600 dead terrorists in one strike. These cruise missiles are something! It seems those mercenaries may attempt to enter Syria through that corridor, but they are becoming cannon fodder after that. Do they want to be cannon fodder so quickly after they enter?:-) Are they paid enough for that? We’ll see.
zweistein on November 20, 2015 · at 6:55 pm EST/EDT

” Shocking to see Putin is so desperate & the hour so late that he sided in record time with the stinking Frenchies.”

You don’t get it. Putin is siding with no one. But if France really wants to go after ISIS as they claim, then “let’s do it together!”. In other words Putin is putting pressure on France to walk the talk.
- Justin on November 20, 2015 · at 10:15 pm EST/EDT
  
  Exactly.
  
  Also, Russia is keeping the door of co-operation open, a door of which the Paris attacks were meant to try and close. IF the French work with the Russians in Syria it will be a huge step forward for Europe. One that will totally undermine the outcome the Gladio Attack in Paris was meant to invoke – NATO Article 5 and subsequent action in Syria.
  
  If the French co-ordinate with the Russians with the permission of the Syrian Government, this will be a very important turning point in European relations. A step forward for Europe from the fork in the road so to speak. I would imagine that there would also need to be heightened co-operation on domestic terrorist elimination as well because Hegemon will not take this lying down.

teranam13 on November 20, 2015 · at 5:39 pm EST/EDT

Peter Lavelle lets the neocon have the last word and then he leaps in at the end–fair is fair when it comes to Assad being slandered.

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/322803-syria-global-coalition-isis/

vot tak on November 20, 2015 · at 6:03 pm EST/EDT

Those Who Fuelled Extremism in Syria Now Mourn Paris Attack Victims

“As one world leader after another sent sympathy and solidarity to the French nation, and some already were hinting at a stronger anti-terrorist jihad against ISIL, I was not impressed. World powers don’t launch jihads against themselves, and some of them are too busy running regime change terror operations like those that have been going on in Syria for 5 years,” Dean wrote in his recent article for New Eastern Outlook.

The Representative Council of the Jews of France (CRIF) has now called for fighting jihadism “without mercy.” But why the CRIF has not expressed its willingness to crack down on the Persian Gulf monarchies known for their support of radical Islamists in Syria, Iraq and beyond, Dean asked.

According to the US columnist, the elites of US, Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, have been involved, in various ways, in a covert war against Syria.

Remarkably, the independent narrative about Washington’s role in arming, training and funneling terrorists into Syria remains largely neglected.

American-German researcher F. William Engdahl wrote in his article for RT on June 24, 2014: “Advertised publicly as training of ‘non-extremist’ Muslim jihadists to wage war against the Syrian Bashar Assad regime, the secret US training camps in Jordan and elsewhere have trained perhaps several thousand Muslim fighters in techniques of irregular warfare, sabotage and general terror.”

Anonymous on November 20, 2015 · at 6:17 pm EST/EDT

Well, Fadel put up his own “ode to French terrorism” article yesterday 19th, but it clearly cuts across the grain of all the self-righteous war belching & hysterical screeching going on.

http://syrianperspective.com/2015/11/what-the-french-arent-telling-you-and-what-syrper-is-telling-you.html
Anonymous on November 21, 2015 · at 9:40 am EST/EDT

“Had Turkey placed the same kind of absolute blockade on Isis territories as they did on Kurdish-held parts of Syria… that blood-stained ‘caliphate’ would long since have collapsed — and arguably, the Paris attacks may never have happened. And if Turkey were to do the same today, Isis would probably collapse in a matter of months. Yet, has a single western leader called on Erdoğan to do this?”

More here:https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/europe-is-harbouring-the-islamic-state-s-backers-d24db3a24a40#.q7fbal5a3

Purple Library Guy on November 20, 2015 · at 6:51 pm EST/EDT

Ever since the Paris attacks, people have been talking about that, about reactions to it, and about the Russian declaration that their downed plane was actually the work of a terrorist bomb, and their decision to send in the big long range bombers and generally intensify the bombing campaign.

But it’s like everyone’s stopped reporting on what’s happening in the actual war in Syria. I’m really wondering–is the Syrian army still pushing forward? Is ISIS counterattacking? Are there any new developments stemming from the freeing of that airbase? Are the bigger bombs making any difference? Anyone know?

On a side note–there’s this term that comes up now and again, “operational”, like in how the Saker said taking that airbase was an “operational victory” whereas various other little wins were just “tactical” victories. It’s mysterious military talk to me–I have a pretty good idea of what “tactics” and “tactical” mean, and some grasp of what “strategy” and “strategic” mean, but “operational” is slippery. It seems to be some kind of middle ground, but for some time I was in the dark about what would promote, or demote, something to “operational” from “tactical” or “strategic”. But based on how people have been talking about it, I think I have a workable idea about it. A “tactical” victory means you, like, fought the other guy and, like, you killed some of his guys or they ran away or whatever. But in a wider conflict that doesn’t necessarily make any difference. And a “strategic” victory means you got at least one of the goals you had set when you got into the fight in the first place; some of what you were fighting for is now achieved (helps to have actually set some goals).

But operational . . . OK, so say you’re having a war in a big open plain with a bunch of little villages in it, all pretty similar. And say you take one of these villages, and the enemy retreats to the next one. It’s a tactical victory, you won–you got the village, they don’t. Enough of them and maybe you have the whole plain–but if you’re not careful you could run out of soldiers before the plain runs out of villages to take. And the next village will be the same setup all over again. So taking a village is just a tactical victory; it makes no real difference. What would be a step up from that? From the way people are using the term, I’m thinking the crucial feature of an operational victory is that it makes further victories easier to get–it makes a difference to the whole situation such that you can pull more effective moves now than you could before, or the enemy can no longer pull effective moves that they could before. What makes it not a strategic victory is that it does not in itself represent gaining any of your key goals, it just allows you to pursue them more effectively than you could before.
Is that in the right ballpark? Can anyone who knows about this stuff clarify?

zweistein on November 20, 2015 · at 7:14 pm EST/EDT

The SAA/RuAF/Hezbollah/Republican Guards advances in all theaters, on all fronts continues unabated. Meticulously and steady. No crazy Hollywood stunts.

Al-Nusra’s and ISIS’s fate in Syria has been sealed on day one of the current operation.

The US, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia are shell-shocked. The only answer they have come up with so far is escalating their mercenary-terror to Sinai, Lebanon, Mali, Paris. What a disgrace! What a calamity!

The doubling of Russian air missions serves the purpose of guaranteeing that all hysterical talk in Washington and London, in France and Turkey, of No-fly-zones, attacking Damascus, boots-on-the-ground and what not remains exactly that – empty talk.
blue on November 20, 2015 · at 8:51 pm EST/EDT

I’m still working on understanding it but http://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-strategic-operational-objectives-24572.html seems helpful — speaking about it in business terms.

“Relationship Between Strategy and Operations

Even though strategic and operational objectives are substantially different, it is important to recognize that they are closely related. An organization is unlikely to achieve a strategic objective if it fails to effectively translate it into workable operational objectives. At the same time, operational objectives will lack cohesion with each other and with the overall organizational mission if they are not designed to affect the achievement of strategic objectives. Put simply, strategic objectives only become useful when translated into operational objectives and operational objectives are only effective when designed to serve a strategic objective.
”

I’m thinking maybe a difference is that operational level can be translated into tactics — take the villages — while strategic — control the agricultural production of the country — can’t be.

Also see http://www.riskope.com/2014/04/03/lets-define-strategic-tactical-and-operational-planning/

[…]
Since upper Management generally have a better understanding of the organization as a whole than lower level managers do, upper Management generally develops strategic plans. Because lower level managers generally have better understanding of the day-to- day organizational operations, generally they develop tactical and operational plans.
[…]

This might be related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viable_system_model
“A viable system is composed of five interacting subsystems which may be mapped onto aspects of organizational structure. In broad terms Systems 1–3.[3] are concerned with the ‘here and now’ of the organization’s operations, System 4 is concerned with the ‘there and then’ – strategical responses to the effects of external, environmental and future demands on the organization.[4] System 5 is concerned with balancing the ‘here and now’ and the ‘there and then’ to give policy directives which maintain the organization as a viable entity.[5]”

Maybe system 3 through system 4 —
System 3 represents the structures and controls that are put into place to establish the rules, resources, rights and responsibilities of System 1 and to provide an interface with Systems 4/5. Represents the big picture view of the processes inside of System 1.

System 4 – The bodies that make up System 4 are responsible for looking outwards to the environment to monitor how the organization needs to adapt to remain viable.

is the operational level

While

System 1 in a viable system contains several primary activities. Each System 1 primary activity is itself a viable system due to the recursive nature of systems as described above. These are concerned with performing a function that implements at least part of the key transformation of the organization.

System 2 represents the information channels and bodies that allow the primary activities in System 1 to communicate between each other and which allow System 3 to monitor and co-ordinate the activities within System 1. Represents the scheduling function of shared resources to be used by System 1.

Are still tactical?

If I learn to factor trinomials is that math education or just training? Sort of like that?
- Anonymous on November 23, 2015 · at 5:40 pm EST/EDT
  
  “Even though strategic and operational objectives are substantially different”
  
  That is a useful illustration of the opponents’ methods/perceptions.
  
  Means condition ends – tactics condition strategies; all being informed by purpose which some conflate with strategy..
  
  An iteration or iterations on “false” premisses tend to lead to “surprises”.
  
  However in such instances some reflect practices outlined in
  
  Wilful blindness – Margaret Heffernan – Simon & Schuster 2011 ISBN 978-1-84737-7708 although this should not be taken as a devotional text or held to be the pinnacle of current knowledge/practice.
sejmon on November 20, 2015 · at 10:01 pm EST/EDT

For daily updated situation in SYRIA check http://www.syrianperspective.com
mmiriww on November 21, 2015 · at 3:33 am EST/EDT

The aim is to bottle up IS into major cities they have captured. To prevent the Kurds from taking over those cities, Russia seemed to have done strategic bombing to take out fortified positions and mines to let the SAA reach those cities first. By stealth the US has bombed IS positions so the Kurds could advance and have no advanced quite far into IS territory. There is also another airbase which is surrounded by IS. US is using the Kurds to take over arab lands and maybe bottling up IS so as to get them out without being bombed by Russia. Don’t see the point of assisting the Kurds to take over land that is not there’s other wise. You can not defeat IS.. We saw what 3000 or so local insurgents did in Fallujah against the full might of the US military.. The US let all the Chechens and foreigners escape Fallujah before their offensives. They still lost over 100 killed and 600 injured with 10000 homes destroyed and 30000 homes damaged in a city of 50000 homes. Destroying an entire city to save it..

Major operations around Deir Ez Zor to free up another air base.

All Syrian battle maps..
http://worldconflictsresearch.t83.net/deir-ez-zor-city/4589609233

Penelope on November 20, 2015 · at 6:53 pm EST/EDT

Condensation from link below:
While Tehran could have made a greater contribution to support the ongoing offensive of the Syrian army, in just two weeks of fighting it has already lost more than a dozen generals and senior officers of the Revolutionary Guards in the area to the south of Aleppo. Clear need to get the regular units of the Iranian army deployed in Syria.
[I’ve never understood what they are waiting for– unless there’s a deal w US to partition Syria].

Compromise with the West and the Arabian monarchies can be reached if all parties agree to hold presidential elections in Syria wo Assad, while reps of the Syrian govt will be internationally guaranteed against prosecution. Should this scenario be pursued, Syria’s president will have to hand over a majority of his powers to the elected prime minister, while Moscow and Tehran will be allowed to maintain their military presence in Syria for the time being.

This compromise unacceptable for Saudi Arabia, which cannot accept the creation of any form of “black list” that will clarify which groups in Syria can be labeled as terrorist, as agreed in the Vienna communiques. Saudi Arabia’s Jaish al-Fath, the backbone of which is Jabhat al-Nusra, is already recognized as a terrorist organization by US & UN, while Saudis are still supporting them in counterattack & trying to control Idlib. Therefore, one can successfully negotiate with Riyadh only from position of strength.

Iraqi army units and certain Kurdish troops are ineffective due to lack of trained officers & allow ISIL to maneuver its forces between Syria and Iraq. US cd ally w either Kurds or Turkey. This has led to halfway attempts to create a rebel force where Kurds will play a supporting role. Kurds are waiting for US promises to support autonomy.

Possible Turkish ground operation against ISIL. Ankara is signaling Russia, who has been bombing ISIS in the border region, that if ops against ISIS are carried out at the same rate, it will not refrain from military actions aimed at protecting Turks in the region and its own interests along the Turkish-Syrian border. It has redeployed a total of 11,000 special forces along the border, prepared to engage at will. Tayyip Erdogan still tries for “Greater Turkey” through his protection of Turkmen living in Syria’s border region.

Erdogan restated only last week that he’s planning a no-fly [to which he imputes US acceptance.] He has consistently bombed Kurdish forces when they advance along the western bank of the Euphrates River [and the US has not given aircover to the Kurds in this region.] This would complete a “Kurdish corridor” near the Turkish border. In turn, Turkey has stated willingness to send troops into Syria to “fight ISIS.”

Potential Turkish military op in Syria wd have two main goals: Save ISIL now being defeated in Aleppo province & elimination of any possibility of a quasi-state Kurdish autonomy. Ankara can’t strike alone, since majority of Turks won’t support it. But if US abandons Kurdish autonomy state along her border and the use of Syrian Democratic Coalition (the nonKurds in the area), Turkey will join US in a full scale invasion..

Possibly this op cd be reduced solely to maintenance of channels of Islamist logistical networks in Syria incl ISIL and the supplying of smuggled oil to Turkey
Qatar continues secretly to fund al Nusra and affiliates
11/18/15 http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/18/who-is-syrian-reconciliation/ Viktor Titov .

[Turkey: will not invade w/o US troops on the ground.
US Military hesitates between desirability of US/Turkey invasion, and US/Kurdish-SNC coalition, as the basis of US/Israel colonization. While Turkish forces wd be stronger, they lead to a stronger Turkey, Turkish colonization of more territory.

Obama, I think, wants neither & will continue his undermining of the unipolar agenda, while camouflaging it w neocon rhetoric and pretended incompetence and pretended consideration of the wishes of the American people. Clearly Obama is backed in the retreat from aggression that has characterized his 2d term by some oligarchs & their think tanks. Eg: a recent conference on “Realism & Restraint” sponsored by The American Conservative & The Charles Koch Institute. Pragmatism seems to be making gains in lieu of morality ]

Uncle Bob 1 on November 20, 2015 · at 7:26 pm EST/EDT

Any deal based on a “for the time being” is along the lines of Munich in 1938.For the “time being” it prevented an easy winnable war from being fought.While making an “almost losing war” in the near future a certainty.Whenever I see things like that I want to stick leaders on our side in a room with books on the mistakes made in the prelude to WW2.And not let them out until they read them cover to cover.And then pass a test on them.That should have been done before Munich 1 and Munich 2 also,…ooops,sorry….I meant “Minsk” 1 & 2 instead.
Mistaron on November 20, 2015 · at 8:17 pm EST/EDT

I’ve been waiting for a long time to see whether I was the only one who had realised that Obama seems to be playing a dangerous game with the “shadow government”.

It’s not just one thing, but a multitude of often almost incidental, nuances, contradictions, (almost deliberate at times), and overt insouciance that got me wondering why an intelligent man would behave as though he wasn’t, (intelligent).

I hope he lives to write his memoires and that he chooses to be candid. That, I think, would be some read.
- Red Ryder on November 20, 2015 · at 9:40 pm EST/EDT
  
  The shadow government, by any name, by any descriptive, is ever-morphing and uses Obama as it has use for Islamic terror. They don’t care what ideologue or tool or fool comes along. They are busy wealth-building, greeding all assets, and using all government, NGOs and media to achieve total control and management. They use “leaders”, Parties, and insurgencies, even doing busy with and profiting from drugs, arms, human trafficking, porno, child abuse, whatever.
  
  The Elites are atop and inside and have the momentum.
  
  But out of Eurasia is Russia and China. And maybe we have seen the crack in Europe, not Britain nor Greece, nor Germany. It looks like France is acting apart from the rest. Working with Russia maybe, just maybe, something good for humanity.
  
  As for Obama, everything he constructed has toppled. Everything he espouses is rejected. So the path for him is to set more fires and cause more chaos. He is useful to the Elites. He is breaking down nations, including the US, and he is dividing people and societies. He is callous and without affect (sure sign of sociopathy).
  
  He serves Satan.

Uncle Bob 1 on November 20, 2015 · at 7:09 pm EST/EDT

A good article on “today’s” Western Ukraine,from Fort Russ.Its important to remember that while Russia is saving (or at least trying to) their distant friends in Syria.Their literal brothers and cousins next door in Ukraine are suffering this:

“Everyday fascism: a stroll through Lvov”

“Ordinary fascism: Western Ukraine”

The idea to inspect Lvov for nationalist sentiments is long overdue, and I decided to go around on the way to dropping by for the home football match of “Karpat.”

A ten minute walk from the train station and we find ourselves near a monument to Stepan Bandera. At the base are a few bouquets and the the legs are wrapped in the red and black flag of the Ukrainian insurgent army.

There are white marks from bird droppings visible on the monument. Banderites are too lazy to clean their idol.

The benches near the monument are covered in empty beer bottles and fast food wrappers. At seven in the morning, there are already tourists taking photos near the monument.

The monument to Bandera is located on Stepan Bandera street which lies between the streets “Heroes of UPA” and “Evgeney Konovalets Street.” Looking at the first billboard on Bandera street, I see that this is propaganda material from Irina Farion.

The sign reads: “ April, 29, 98 years since the day of the beginning of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen’s victorious battles with the Muscovite occupants on mount Makovka.”

The memorial plaque to Konovalets, the founder of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists has more wreaths and bouquets than the monument to Bandera.

Much is said about the role of Ukrainian media in zombifying the population, but there no one talks about the influence of the Greco-Catholic Church on the masses.

I went to the morning service at the first cathedral and barely survived the first five minutes. The bishop spoke of the eternal enemy who has come to capture the territory of Ukraine, the cowardly president who fled to Russia, and the necessity of taking up arms.

The bishop’s speech resembled a pre-election propaganda speech of people’s deputy candidates, not the monologue of a priest. The cathedral was packed, and Lvov residents, with mouths wide open, listened to the bishop and took everything that he said at face value.

Going for breakfast to a cafe, I was shocked by the selection of songs coming from the speakers. One year ago, the same buildings played European pop, but now one hears hastily recorded songs with one sad message: the valiant time has come, it’s necessary to defend Ukraine, die on the battlefield, die for Ukraine, and become a hero.

Lvov residents are subjected to powerful ideological indoctrination not even counting the press.

The people of Galicia are a religious folk and the word of a bishop is more important to them words from a TV presenter.

I passed by another catholic cathedral and noticed an approaching hearse. they had brought the body of an officer of the Ukrainian army, killed in Donbass, to a funeral service. Listening in on the assembly of relatives and friends, I heard that he was 40 years old and was killed two days earlier near Debaltsevo.

I carefully look at their faces. Do you think that they are filled with sorrow, hatred, or desire for revenge? Nothing of the sort! On the faces of the relatives of the deceased, there is confusion. They generally don’t seem to understand what’s going on in Ukraine.

All of their conversations boiled down to an anxiousness to receive due financial aid for the burial from the state. Why their son, father, and husband died doesn’t bother them.

Analytical thinking is irrelevant today in Lvov.

In the afternoon, on Liberty Prospect, the central street of Lvov, there is a traffic block. Banderites are solemnly marching along the street in full uniform accompanied by cavalry and a brass band. They’re playing Nazi march anthems from the ’30’s.

If I felt like I had wound up in the movie “Battleship Potemkin” on May 2 in Odessa, then on November 2 in Lvov I somehow wound up in the Bob Fosse’s movie “Cabaret.” Nazis pompously march through the streets, and tourists smile cutely and pretend that nothing is happening.

I go to a book stand. Just reading the titles of the brochures was enough for me. : “Ukrainian Nightingale Battalion Group – Questions and Answers,” “Moskali – not Russians and not Slavs,” and “The Fascism of Yanukovich and Putin.”

At “Ukraine” stadium, before the “Karpat” match, the song with the refrain “Raise the banner from battle to battle, Ukrainian rebel, never retreat!” came from the loudspeakers. Among the supporters, there were boys with hoodies and Nazi runes on their chests, having chosen for themselves the emblem of the punitive battalion Azov.

The “Karpat” players come to the match in white and green uniforms, but the kids leading the players by the hand onto the field are all in red and back uniforms symbolizing respect for UPA. The red and black flags of UPA appear repeatedly around the perimeter of the stadium. Fans are chanting slowly and reluctantly the standard set of anti-Russian chants.

With special enthusiasm, “Karpat’s” fans chant “Beat the Moskal! Beat the Moskal! Beat the Moskal! Stack the corpses! With gun in hand, get a new award!”

Fans also repeatedly screamed “Russian whore!” and “Bandera, Shukhevich – heroes of Ukraine!” It’s funny to watch how 70 year-old grandfathers, who already can’t walk, start to imitate jumping with the scream “He who doesn’t jump is a Moskal!”

The “Karpat” fans look unpresentable, as I remember from the early ’90’s. Practically invisible are people dressed neatly and stylishly, but horrifically dressed people full of bitterness from empty pockets and chronic malnutrition are visible. It is as if the Paris slums from Celine’s novels have filled Lvov.

In all stores, cafe, and shops, there is a box for collecting cash to aid participants of the Anti-Terrorist Operation.

Lvov’s residents don’t seem to get the connection: tossing a hryvnia into a box for war puts your relative, friend, or acquaintance into a coffin.

References here and there to the “heavenly hundreds” quickly becomes disgusting. All and sundry mentions the “heavenly hundreds.” The “heavenly hundreds” are mentioned on posters for ballet performances and announcements of food-tasting parties. In memory of the “heavenly hundreds,” dozens of novels, short stories, and essays, have already been released. Books on the “heavenly hundred” cram the shelves of second-hand bookshops.

The city abounds with beggars. Surely, someone has already asked for giving alms as if he is the son of a murdered member of the “heavenly hundred,” just as earlier they asked as “sons” of Lieutenant Schmidt. I avoided beggars.

There was only one pleasant surprise: I heard Russian more than I expected. Restaurant visitors and strolling tourists speak in Russian, and all of their conversations boil down to politics.

Derogatory images with the face of Vladimir Putin fill the city center in restaurant windows and on art-gallery signs.

Bars brag of having an alcoholic cocktail “Putin’s blood.” I’m not going to quote all the offenses hurled at the President of the Russian Federation, but I believe that Lvov has no right to call itself the cultural capital of Ukraine or a European city.

Lvov residents demonstrate the level of culture of those who author the propaganda posters everywhere. This is barbarism from the middle ages and has nothing to do with modern civilization.

Ukrainian media loves to write that “in fact, there are no Banderites.” In fact, everywhere is full of Banderites, and they can be easily spotted by their Trident starter kits. A lot of men walk around Lvov in camouflage uniforms with the stripes of all sort of punitive battalions. Apparently, this is a fashion trend and they want to impress girls…

Lvov has been struck with the plague of Nazism. It is very difficult to stay sane here living in such an environment.

Today, Lvov is a city of fascist madness, where white is black and vice versa. A volunteer rode up to me on roller skates and demanded me to throw a couple bills into a box with the inscription “Ukraine is at war! Help her!”

I didn’t give her anything, but those who sat on nearby benches willingly opened their purses and threw hryvnia into the box. People who want peace would not sponsor war out of their pockets, but, alas, this thought is incomprehensible to Lvov residents today.

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/11/everyday-fascism-stroll-through-lvov.html

know the truth on November 20, 2015 · at 8:35 pm EST/EDT

It really beats me how these subhuman apes can actually see themselves as having any “culture”, they aren’t even civilized. I would actually put a silverback gorilla as having a lot more intelligence and nobility than they do.
Purple Library Guy on November 20, 2015 · at 10:46 pm EST/EDT

“Bars brag of having an alcoholic cocktail “Putin’s blood.””
Man. I respect the guy, but don’t you think turning him into Jesus is going a bit far for hero-worship? ;)
- Jack on November 21, 2015 · at 11:18 am EST/EDT
  
  Maybe instead of a wafer, they give out cookies with the chalice of blood ?

James on November 20, 2015 · at 7:16 pm EST/EDT

November 20, 2015

Guile Replaces The Stick: Washington’s New Approach To Russia

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington has learned that threats and coercion do not work against Russia. All the threats have done is to build Putin’s public support to astronomical levels and to unify Russia against the West’s assault. This is a failed policy that Washington is abandoning as Washington sees a new opportunity in Russia’s desire for Western cooperation, not only against ISIL but also on a wide range of other issues.

Realizing that guile can be more effective than the stick, the West is moving toward drawing Russia into the Western system by offering a coalition against ISIL. Once Russia is in a coalition against ISIL, Russia will lose control. This is Washington’s strategy for counteracting the initiative that Russia seized in Syria.

Once Russia is in a coalition against ISIL, Russia will have to make compromises. Putin will be told that Russia can have ISIL, but Russia has to turn Assad’s fate over to the West. If Putin balks, the Western media will blame Putin for topedoing the war against ISIL.

Getting rid of ISIL is more important to the Russian government than saving Assad. If a jihadist Islamic State is established, there will be a base for exporting turmoil into the Muslim regions of the Russian Federation.

Once Russia accepts “cooperation” with the West against ISIL, more “cooperation” will be used to gradually erode bit by bit Russia’s independence and to bring Russian policy in alignment with Washington’s.

Many in Russia believe that the Paris attack proves that Putin was right and that the West now realizes this and will accept Russian leadership in the fight against ISIL. This belief is delusional. Washington will take advantage of Russian desire for Western cooperation and will use this desire in order to bring Russia under Western influence, thus reestablishing Washington’s hegemony.

alan on November 20, 2015 · at 10:35 pm EST/EDT

I think PCR is probably right, it’s simply delusional to place any trust in a country that is still controlled by the neocons. I think Putin should ask all “partners-against-isis-wannabes” for permission from Assad, president of Syria, to be admitted as part of a coalition that has *permission* to conduct military operations in Syria.
mmiriww on November 21, 2015 · at 1:22 pm EST/EDT

Result of Osama’s guile.. Russian carpet bombing.. The Saudi’s said they would send more arms.. At this rate there wont be left for the coalition.

#Syria: PHOTO: Jihadist positions in the hills bordering the Al-Ghab plain being targeted today. #Hama/#Latakia two TU 22M3 left 12+ FAB 250 /each

https://twitter.com/2Rook14/status/667978924899471360

The guys getting bombed..

https://twitter.com/Sarcastic_Syria/status/667846082487934976

zweistein on November 20, 2015 · at 7:18 pm EST/EDT

Russian long range strategic bomber Tu-95 accompanied by Iranian F-14 Tomcats (about 1:20) ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascSnBbxfaU

SanctuaryOne on November 21, 2015 · at 1:09 am EST/EDT

Could be -video is muzzy- but more likely Russian SU–27 or SU-30, Iran doesn’t appear to have any of the SUs.
- Kaluga on November 21, 2015 · at 2:11 am EST/EDT
  
  It is IIRIAF F-14 for sure … Kind of irony to see F-14 escorting bombers that were their targets not so long ago …
  - SanctuaryOne on November 21, 2015 · at 6:28 am EST/EDT
    
    I stand corrected now I see the close-up shot. It doesn’t have the distinctive I/R seeker under the nose which was why on the blurry distant footage I didn’t think it could be an F-14.
    What a sight! Good to see such solidarity.
- mmiriww on November 21, 2015 · at 6:42 am EST/EDT
  
  Iran had many Iraqi SU jets.. They gave some SU25’s to Iraq and the rest to Syria. There are picures of SU30’s escorting TU160’s in the Mediterranean, the F14’s are over Iran.. But how are the TU160’s getting into the Mediterranean? Unless they were the same planes that flew over Iran. I don’t think Syria hosts any TU bombers yet so they are being escorted by various fighters as they have no weapons themselves.
  
  ISIS is now voiceless as the Russian Air Force destroys their main media center in northern Aleppo.. Seems a major effort to cut communication lines between IS and their Turkish intelligence handlers..
  
  These punks are captured ISIS members.. Not much different than the errand boys of the gangs or drug mules.
  
  https://twitter.com/BosnjoBoy/status/667830586870894592

zweistein on November 20, 2015 · at 7:20 pm EST/EDT

Canthama, who runs kind of a ‘mini blog’ with crucial intel inside the comment section of SyrPer, writes:

” Putin’s visit to Iran (next Monday) is disguised as a trade show visit, no doubt regular commerce is important for Iran-Russia new relationship, they will announce the Russian-Iranian bank, maybe other macro deals etc…but we should expect this visit to be fundamentally a C&C type of meeting where they will make decisions on:

1) Russia’s weapons sales to Iran, fighters, frigates and missile defense system.

2) A possible “behind the scenes” meeting with Russia-Iran-Iraq envoy to define RuAF active participation bombing ISIS in Iraq.

3) A possible discussion on the Kurds dilemma and its future.

4) A game plan to hunt down KSA, Qatar and Turkey bad, real bad, economically and next step toward the fall of their regimes due to their deep involvement with terrorism and threat to both countries.

5) More IRGC ground troops in Syria, that will be covered by doubling RuAF attack group in Syria, sources saying anywhere between 30+- new airplanes being sent to Syria, saw a list of 3-6xSu-27, 12xSu-34 and 12xSu-24, but not confirmed.”

nolens on November 20, 2015 · at 8:32 pm EST/EDT

sounds good. but syrper is a wobbly source. some maniacs on that site.
do u need to travel to iran to arrange those covert issues? prolly can b done by intel chiefs having a phone convo, no?
mmiriww on November 21, 2015 · at 3:46 am EST/EDT

When Oil prices went under $80 I knew that was Putin doing it, SA needs prices over $100 and so does the US sale oil industry.. For prices to drop further than what KSA wanted would mean another actor in play who thinks other wise. So payback would mean oil prices in the mid $20’s.. Russia has increased oil production and KSA can not back down without admitting defeat. So the 3rd player in this would be Iran. Their 2-3 million extra barrels can easily drop the price into themed $20’s, Russia already anticipates low prices as they have dropped their oil revenue another 20% in the state budget for next year. Since Iran has already stabilized sort off with only 1 mil barrels in oil sales, low oil prices for now wont mean major changes. But that is not the case for the GCC countries which totally rely on oil sales for state budget’s. Cutting off social welfare to a population accustomed to the good life is not a stabilizing factor. Someone is going to cry uncle very soon, 2 years max.. That discussion would be far more important than anything else.. Economic and weapon sales are all secondary here.. To win a war without fighting is far less costly than a hot war like in Syria and Yemen. And the kicker would be KSA cutting production, hence losing market share.. Which would mean iran taking up the lost production. See no one here can back down. Any setbacks means cracks appear in the social fabric of the attackers in this war. Osama started this.. He cut his trip to india by 2 days to get KSA to do his bidding and fell into this trap. Nato has thrown in their reserves and anyone backing down now would be a win for Russia/Iran.. Goldman sacks now expects prices to drop into the $20’s once Iran resumes oil sales.. Remember, goldman did not expect oil to go under $70.. The break even price for developing new shale oil wells.. at $40 they would be losing half the investment into new wells.

Jack on November 20, 2015 · at 7:29 pm EST/EDT

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GrandmaR on November 20, 2015 · at 10:22 pm EST/EDT

Shoigu report, 11/20 published at Ft. Russ:

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/shoigu-armed-forces-have-moved-to-next.html

I wonder, who are “the gangs”? From some I’ve read of all sorts of “fighter” groups with names I’ve not heard of before. Are these the “gangs”?

Red Ryder on November 20, 2015 · at 10:33 pm EST/EDT

http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-asks-lebanon-to-partially-shut-down-airspace-1448052553

This weekend Lebanon skies will be cleared to allow Russian naval forces to launch attacks from the Mediterranean. ISIS will be paid back for the Beirut bombing with Russian cruise missiles from ten ships in position offshore.

Russia is carrying the banner, marking bombs as payback for their airliner losses and for Paris. I imagine some of the cruise missiles will carry messages related to Beirut.

Early Christmas in Raqqa. Presents from the Christian world to the satanists head-choppers.

I just wish a few of these missiles would go astray and hit Saudi and Qatar palaces.

Mohamed on November 21, 2015 · at 2:55 am EST/EDT

Salam Red Ryder,

Lebanon welcomes Russia over it skies, and tells God riddance IsraHell. Russia is now officially in Lebanon and control the skies of Lebanon. No longer Israel can violate the Airspace of Lebanon.

Next on Russia’s list is either Egypt or Iraq.

Rejoice,

Mohamed.

vonryken on November 20, 2015 · at 11:33 pm EST/EDT

First off, why all the verbiage in the media about U.S. taking in refugees. A million Syrians have returned home from Europe due to the success of the Russian campaign…. the ones headed to the U.S. can now safely do likewise.

Secondly, according to an online gaming friend of my husband who lives in Croatia, he learned straight from the horses mouth that each refugee was given $12,000 dollars through Saudi Arabia and Qatar to make the journey to Europe. The Croatian government was mobilizing its citizens to help out with the refugees and they were told not to ask any of them where they received the resources to make such a long trip. This man said he asked anyway and that is what they told him.

Ward Remington on November 21, 2015 · at 1:03 am EST/EDT

There seems to be a massive amount of confusion about the Paris attacks. A lot of analysts are calling it a false flag, some hold George Soros, the CIA and/or NATO to blame. The horrific event seems like a catalyst that has shocked the Western world into rethinking its strategy..

https://quemadoinstitute.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/paris-attacks-migrants-a-trojan-horse-for-terrorists-wayne-madsen/

mopoke on November 21, 2015 · at 2:45 am EST/EDT

The latest Charlie Hebdo cover -‘They have weapons. We have champagne’.

Turn it upside down.
Then you see a Menorah. Hebdo owned by Rothschilds?
Also, notice the devil sign while tipping the glass, the six fingers exposed, six bullets holes, and six champagne streams flowing out— 666. The Religion of Lucifer/Satan.

Hidden in plain view – they can’t help boasting.

http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/world/article/Charlie-Hebdo-s-cover-inspired-by-Paris-attacks-6641568.php

mopoke on November 21, 2015 · at 3:47 am EST/EDT

Either the plot thickens .. or is this site is disinformation?

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/18/will-the-matrix-prevail-paul-craig-roberts/

PCR said “A number of readers have sent to me information that indicates that the Paris attack was reported on both Wikipedia and Twitter the day before it occurred.
http://bosniapress.info/index.php/news-in-english-articles/2459-paris-attack-reported-on
I do not know what to make of this. “

Peter on November 21, 2015 · at 10:26 am EST/EDT

Checking the linked Sputnik article there is nothing about French politicians calling in NATO. US is calling loudly for NATO, and that was the object of the exercise in Paris, but it seems the French just aren’t playing the US game.
PCR might be losing the plot a bit on this one.

Fromthestates on November 21, 2015 · at 4:48 am EST/EDT

I’m a loyal American, love my country and support our boys in uniform. I have to say though, your man Vladimir Putin is the real deal. I’m jealous of the Russian people for having such a leader. We don’t. It’s sad.

Cheers,
..

Divinelaw on November 21, 2015 · at 5:09 am EST/EDT

It’s all a game where the people don’t really matter. USA, Israel, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, France and England are Daesh/Isis/Isil or whatever they want to be called. They work just like Gladio. The object is to kill people, blame a common enemy that they control, then get the (sheep) people to do what you want.

Divinelaw on November 21, 2015 · at 5:21 am EST/EDT

Ukraine is a pathetic and primitive has been state. They are doing a wonderful job of displaying to the world, that they are the laughing stock on the political scene today. Galicians who pretend to be Ukrainian, Khazars who rule the masses and now USA is the boss. Anyone who is not Ukrainian can be a politician just ask Poroshenko. Right now Robert Mugabe would beat team Kiev by a long shot. Yes Slava Sveena, Slava Durney.

Cassandra on November 21, 2015 · at 8:45 am EST/EDT

On November 18th, the Saker toasts his own prescience with this opening paragraph to a blog post Russia dramatically increases her anti-Daesh operations:
“Just as I had been predicting for a couple of weeks, Russia did dramatically increase the pace of her anti-Daesh operations.”
/russia-dramatically-increases-her-anti-daesh-operations/

On November 9th, this is what the Saker really said, in a post entitled Russia’s intervention in Syria: a reality-based evaluation:
Saker bashes the notion that the Russian intervention would be a game-changer, or was ever intended to be.

“Frustrating as this might be, the right thing do to [sic] for Russia is to do nothing or, more accurately, to do nothing different from what she has been doing so far.

“Russia does have the capabilities to increase her military involvement in Syria and I have already mentioned these options in the past. They include using long-range aviation from Russia or, better, using an Iranian air base. Alternatively, Russia could decide to build a “Khmeimim 2″ airbase near Latakia and commit more aircraft. Maybe I am wrong here, but I don’t see that as a solution.”

Search the website for “reality-based.” An interesting read with the benefit of hindsight.

James McCumiskey on November 21, 2015 · at 3:11 pm EST/EDT

I cannot see why ISIS had a motive to attack Paris. Nato Turkey Israel Gulf Arab states all supported ISIS and France in particular is still on the “Get-rid-of-Assad” band-wagon.
For that reason and others (such as that the alleged perpetrators appear to be patsies not terrorists) I believe it was a False Flag operation designed to get the Outcome / Solution that France would join the anti-ISIS coalition with Russia Iran Syria etc.

What I do not understand is why France (and the UK) want to bomb ISIS given that they have supported them for so long? Why the change of heart?

Anonymous on November 21, 2015 · at 6:13 pm EST/EDT

Concerning news that UN Resolution about opposing “Nazism” worldwide, which was passed but where USA, Ukraine and Canada voted against it.

—But what about the real reasons for voting
against this resolution, that it is actually too narrow and falls short of important matters?

Quoting from the Russia Today article itself about this:
” Moscow proposes similar documents to the UN General Assembly annually, but the US and Canada have consistently voted against them. Ukraine is a new nation among the opponents, as in previous years it has abstained.

Kiev’s representative at the session, Andrey Tsymbalyuk, said that while Ukraine did condemn Nazism and neo-Nazism, it could not endorse the Russian resolution, because it suffered not only from Nazism, but also from Stalinism in the past.

“As long as Stalinism and neo-Stalinism are not condemned as strongly as Nazism, neo-Nazism and other forms of hatred, Ukraine would not be able to back this document,” the diplomat said.

The resolution is to be formally adopted by the UN General Assembly as a body in December.”

See US, Canada & Ukraine vote against Russia’s anti-Nazism resolution at UN
Published time: 22 Nov, 2014 07:59
Edited time: 23 Nov, 2014 14:43

So why can’t Russia sponsor a BROADENING of this resolution to include opposition and condemnation of Stalin, and Stalinism, neo-Stalinism and “other forms of hatred” ?
This commentary by the Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Tsymbaliuk sounds eminently reasonable
and constructive. Historical records document that from the Ukrainian perspective, there was no significant difference between the policies of Hitler’s regime and the policies of Stalin’s regime.
Both regimes seemed to want to kill as many nationally “aware” Ukrainians as they could feasibly get their hands on, both regimes opposed any form of Ukrainian independence, sovereignty and
control over their own affairs, both wanted to basically reduce Ukrainians to cannon fodder in war or slavery in peacetime.—And as a general principle, Russia should modify its resolution to aim also against Stalinism, neo-stalinism and “all other forms of hatred”. What can be wrong with that?

Why not be against BOTH Hitler’s policies and Stalin’s policies because both regimes were operationally similar, even if directed against different targets and funded/supported by different
sources?

John Gilberts on November 22, 2015 · at 3:49 am EST/EDT

Here’s why Canada’s Trudeau government voted against the UN resolution denouncing the ‘Glorification of Nazism’:

“On Remembrance Day 2010, Paul Grod, President of the Ukrainian Canadian Congress, in the name of 1.2 Million Ukrainian-Canadians, paid tribute to the veterans of the Waffen-SS Galizien, and remembered its fallen, ‘who perished fighting for the freedom of their ancestral homeland.”

https://twitter.com/veravanhorne/status/585956481377378304

PS: BREAKING NEWS:

State of Emergency, Blackout in Russia’s Crimea After Transmission Towers in Ukraine Blown Up
https://www.rt.com/news/323012-crimea-blackout-lines-blown-up/

“Electricity has been completely cut off in Russia’s Crimean Peninsula since all power transmission line towers in the neighboring Ukrainian Kherson region were ‘blown up’ by an unknown party, TASS reports.

Right Sector militants had been rioting in the area earlier. The Crimean Emergencies Ministry has declared a state of emergency…”
Uncle Bob 1 on November 22, 2015 · at 4:43 am EST/EDT

Its outrages that the Ukrainians of today’s junta (and some on here that “may” not know anything about history),try to disassociate Ukrainians from Stalin’s government.That government was staffed from top to bottom with Ukrainians.And of all the Soviet Republics,Ukraine benefited more than any other by the industrial and territorial policies of Stalin.Ukraine in its present borders is the gift of Stalin.The entire West of Ukraine was given to them by Stalin.And he allowed the Russians to be lowered in Ukraine,the entire Russian east of today’s Ukraine was made to stay in Ukraine. And he ensured that a fake “Ukrainian” ethnicity was “created”,to give Rus peoples in that region a separate identity of their own.Its totally disgusting that they dare to try and say they were “oppressed” by Stalin.They suffered no more and no less than any Republic in the USSR did.While owing their entire existence to the USSR.Without the USSR, the area would purely be several Oblasts in the RF.And all Western Ukraine would be part of 4 other nations.If anyone has a right to be upset its the Russians.
- Anonymous on November 22, 2015 · at 4:03 pm EST/EDT
  
  Why not read the article on “Ukrainian language” in Wikipedia? Or are you claiming all that is “fascist propaganda” when it comes to that topic? Read the sections “Ukrainization and Tolerance”
  and then “Persecution and Russification”. The problem with Stalin and his regime was not that Stalin [by seemingly documented accounts] had any personal focused hatred on Ukrainians [unlike Hitler’s personal focused hatred of Jews],—but Stalin’s regime generally speaking was one of the most horrid and miserable governments on the planet at the time. No one was safe. There was by reliable accounts a “meatgrinder” going on where people were murdered en masse, and then the murderers would be in turn murdered by the next wave of killers, and then those killers would also be killed by the next wave, and on and on. Consider as example [in Wikipedia again as I recall] the transition between Yagoda as head of secret police, to Yezhov as head of secret police, to the next successor. Each head in turn ended up seized, tortured and executed by his successor, and so on and so on.—Your praise for Stalin sounds bizarre. More Russians and Russian-speakers were probably murdered by Stalin’s system than any other category! But when you as Russian still would not condemn Stalin and neo-Stalinism, that is like a present day Cambodian refusing to condemn Pol Pot’s regime because despite everything, yes,
  Pol Pot was some sort of “patriot” of the Cambodian cause or was a “strong leader”. Absurd!
  And as for Stalin’s leadership against Hitler’s Germany, well, let’s see, on the very eve of possible German invasion, the paranoid crazy Stalin took a swipe at his seasoned military staff and murdered most of them, because he could not tolerate that some one of them might capture greater prestige in the upcoming struggle than he, Stalin.—Give me proof that Stalin was any sort
  of real military strategist himself.—His purge of top generals was likely 1) the major cause of the catastrophe of his own armies against the German invaders in the early years, and 2) encouraged the Germans to strike in the first place.—I think the Germans lost the war when they allowed the millions of Soviet prisoners of war who were not eager to fight for a regime they feared and hated, to simply perish. Word of that got back, everyone in the USSR realized they were going to be exterminated, and so they dug their heels in and really began to fight and turned things around.—It was Hitler’s racism and resulting policies which doomed his campaign.
  Consider comparison with Alexander of Macedon against the Persian Empire, where a stalinesque character [Bagoas or Bagoi] had just finished murdering all the remaining members of the royal dynasty, and most people of the empire wanted a regime change. Alexander rejected the racist advice of Aristotle in how to treat non-Greek “barbarians”, and consequently, most cities and regions surrendered to his army without a fight. Had he behaved like Hitler, no doubt the peoples of the Persian Empire would have risen and kicked him and his army all the way back to Macedon and maybe even beyond.—But whether Stalin’s regime was staffed with so-called Ukrainian “quislings” or not, who cares? If Stalin and his regime preserved a Ukrainian entity after all, that is fine, but Stalin needs be condemned for the horrid system of rulership which he established over everyone, including Russians whose culture and language he elevated simply for expediency to be sure, as he was not Russian [and I am sure his native Georgia was well taken care of, did not suffer any famine, and question how much the war affected the Georgians].
  - Anonymous on November 24, 2015 · at 1:19 pm EST/EDT
    
    “but Stalin needs be condemned for the horrid system of rulership which he established over everyone, including Russians whose culture and language”
    
    Perhaps you share commonalities with your opponent.
    
    One of these commonalities is failure to realise that is it is wise to make research before making a remark.
    
    Another is to allege prime agency in a lateral system.
    
    In illustration:
    
    the opponents’ “The entire West of Ukraine was given to them by Stalin.”
    
    your “Stalin’s leadership against Hitler’s Germany” and “Stalin ….the horrid system of rulership which he established over everyone.”
    
    Part of the reasons that Russia is not the Soviet Union is that the soviet system and some within it have been condemned, this condemnation has been acted upon, and continues to be acted upon.
    
    Your remark
    
    “but Stalin needs be condemned for the horrid system of rulership which he established over everyone, including Russians whose culture and language”
    
    appears not to be cognisant of this process, and appears to deflect focus and opportunities of lateral challenge by assigning sole and/or primary agency to one person.
    
    Even in secure retirement neither Mr. Kaganovich, nor Mr. Krushchev nor Mr. Molotov agreed that “Stalin ….established over everyone” and hence your contention on “everyone” falls.
    
    These people and significant numbers of others acknowledged their complicity.
    
    Your opponent appears also to ignore process and will likely continue to fail to make progress on the question – Whatever happened to Stepan Bandera?
    
    However it is perhaps fortunate that neither of you will likely have agency in these matters excepting broadcast.

Edward on November 22, 2015 · at 12:24 am EST/EDT

The UN “Security Council” has just passed a vaguely worded resolution authorizing foreign countries to intervene in Syria. What could go wrong with that? M. K. Bhadrakumar has written a good critique of this development here:

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2015/11/21/shame-on-un-security-councils-p-5-members/

blue on November 22, 2015 · at 3:00 am EST/EDT

This is a disturbing development — I think Russia probably made a mistake letting this go through, from what I see so far, although I haven’t looked at it closely or the whole thing. It does look like the UN just turned Syria and Iraq into into an open, free-for-all, fire-at-will shooting gallery, though.
- Anonymous on November 22, 2015 · at 10:56 am EST/EDT
  
  “It does look”
  
  Appearances can be deceptive when “acted” upon.
  - blue on November 22, 2015 · at 4:13 pm EST/EDT
    
    Anything — maybe most things — from the UN can be deceptive (by design). Any country who wants to fight terrorists anywhere can do so with the invitation or permission of the target country. But this is the sort of thing that the US and NATO has used in the past to go beyond the intent of those who voted for a resolution. What is the point of passing this resolution if it is not to be used to violate sovereignty by some of the members? Recall how the US used a similar resolution to argue that it had the authority to invade Iraq, and how the media portrayed it as such. Those are the sorts of deceptive games the empire usually indulges in. It makes me uneasy.
    - Anonymous on November 23, 2015 · at 11:18 am EST/EDT
      
      “Those are the sorts of deceptive games the empire usually indulges in. It makes me uneasy.”
      
      Perhaps it is therefore fortunate that you likely have no “agency” in this or other matters.
      
      However in matters of the agency of others, you still appear wedded to notions of sole or prime agency.
      
      To reiterate – “Appearances can be deceptive when “acted” upon.”; the key being acted upon.
      
      The following question may appear esoteric and/or ultra vires.
      
      Does a fish swimming in a bowl perceive that its world is bound by transparent constraints?
- Edward on November 22, 2015 · at 2:28 pm EST/EDT
  
  What is astonishing about Russian agreement with this resolution is that now Russia could find itself accidentally fighting U.S., British, French, Turkish, or Israeli forces intervening in Syria. Russia has made a big deal about how its intervention in Syria is completely legal, in contrast with the West. That important point is now undermined.
  - blue on November 22, 2015 · at 5:04 pm EST/EDT
    
    It’s a nasty game. The US is doing the same thing as all along, and this UN resolution is part of the US control over the UN and it’s hegemony. I don’t expect anything good to come from it because the underlying intentions haven’t changed. It’s an excuse for NATO to invade.
    
    https://www.rt.com/news/323033-russia-us-terrorism-summit/
    Russia & US must join forces against ISIS, ‘address root causes of terrorism’ – UN Sec Gen
    Published time: 22 Nov, 2015 11:15
    
    […]
    
    READ MORE: Russia ‘must change strategy’ in Syria if it wants to join US-led ‘anti-ISIS’ coalition – State Dept [ https://www.rt.com/usa/322956-russia-isis-coalition-washington/ ]
    
    Despite these achievements, US State Department spokesman John Kirby said Friday that Russia is not welcome to join the US-led coalition in Syria, as France has proposed, until it changes its “focus” and stops “propping up” President Bashar Assad.
tx_progressive on November 22, 2015 · at 4:15 am EST/EDT

This resolution will give Russia the legal authority to attack ISIS-held territories in Iraq. This is a good thing, since now Russia doesn’t have to wait for Iraqi approval.
- blue on November 22, 2015 · at 4:52 am EST/EDT
  
  And neither does anyone else, which is a violation of Iraqi sovereignty. And who is to say what areas are controlled by ISIS — that’s an open question. Russia would have little trouble getting Iraqi approval — there has already been approval regarding those fleeing from Syria into Iraq.
  
  No — it’s not a good thing; it’s an open invitation for anyone to Invade Iraq or Syria.
  - Uncle Bob 1 on November 22, 2015 · at 5:23 pm EST/EDT
    
    I agree with you.I don’t trust it either.The resolution itself sounds benign.But its the “interpretation” by the West that worries me.After all the tricks they’ve fallen for from the West.You would think that Russia and China would realize “never” to trust a proposal coming from them.And yet they never seem to “get it”.
- blue on November 22, 2015 · at 5:38 am EST/EDT
  
  I found a press release, but the resolution itslef is not there at this time.
  ( http://www.un.org/en/sc/documents/resolutions/2015.shtml )
  
  http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=52623
  Security Council calls for eradicating ISIL safe havens in Syria and Iraq
  20 November 2015 – The United Nations Security Council this evening called on all countries that can do so to take the war on terrorism to Islamic State-controlled territory in Syria and Iraq and destroy its safe haven, warning that the group intends to mount further terror attacks like those that devastated Paris and Beirut last week.
  
  In a unanimously adopted resolution, the 15-member body declared the group’s terrorist attacks abroad “a global and unprecedented threat to international peace and security” following the “horrifying terrorist attacks” it perpetrated recently in Sousse (Tunisia), Ankara (Turkey), over Sinai (Egypt) with the downing of a Russian plane, and in Beirut and Paris.
  
  It warned that the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or Da’esh as it is also known, “has the capability and intention to carry out” further strikes and called upon “Member States that have the capacity to do so to take all necessary measures, in compliance with international law, in particular international human rights, refugee and humanitarian law” on its territory.
  
  Condemning “in the strongest terms” ISIL and other terrorist groups in the region such Al-Nusrah Front, the Council Member States “to eradicate the safe haven they have established over significant parts of Iraq and Syria.”
  
  It called on Member States to intensify efforts to stem the flow of foreign terrorist fighters to Iraq and Syria and to prevent and suppress the financing of terrorism, and reaffirmed that those responsible for terrorist acts, violations of international humanitarian law or violations or abuses of human rights must be held accountable.
  
  It cited “the continued gross, systematic and widespread abuses of human rights and violations of humanitarian law, as well as barbaric acts of destruction and looting of cultural heritage” carried out by ISIL.
  
  The resolution also expressed deepest condolences to the victims of the terrorist attacks and their families and to the people and Governments of Tunisia, Turkey, Russia, Lebanon and France, and to all Governments whose citizens were targeted in these attacks and all other victims of terrorism.
  
  “By its violent extremist ideology, its terrorist acts, its continued gross systematic and widespread attacks directed against civilians, abuses of human rights and violations of international humanitarian law, including those driven on religious or ethnic ground, its eradication of cultural heritage and trafficking of cultural property,” ISIL constitutes “a global and unprecedented threat to international peace and security,” the Council stressed.
  
  It also cited the group’s its control natural resources in Iraq and Syria and its “recruitment and training of foreign terrorist fighters whose threat affects all regions and Member States, even those far from conflict zones.”
  
  ———
  
  https://www.rt.com/news/322931-un-resolution-fight-terrorism-isis/ says
  
  “The text, submitted on November 18, stresses the need to coordinate military actions with the governments of the countries where the anti-terror operations are being conducted.
  
  Russia’s Ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, said that Moscow is working towards having the draft resolution passed soon.”
  
  but without seeing that text it is not clear to me what is required. My spider sense is tingling.
  - Wikispooks on November 22, 2015 · at 7:03 pm EST/EDT
    
    I am amazed that this UNSC resolution, passed unanimously, has received next to no coverage or analysis that I have seen as yet.
    
    It is a VERY big deal indeed and, for my money, this article – Shame on UN Security Council’s P-5 members! – by M K Bhadrakuma is disturbingly accurate.
    
    Considering what happened following the Libyan UNSC resolution authorising a no-fly zone back in 2011, can somebody please explain that, no, Putin has not blinked.
  - Anonymous on November 23, 2015 · at 5:54 pm EST/EDT
    
    “but without seeing that text it is not clear to me what is required”
    
    It would appear that you have confirmed hypotheses outlined in
    
    /week-seven-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-dramatic-surge-in-intensity/comment-page-2/#comment-177489
    
    It is perhaps indeed fortunate that the requirement falls into to the purview and agency of others.
    - blue on November 23, 2015 · at 9:37 pm EST/EDT
      
      I don’t understand why the moderators let you post your noise.

eimar on November 23, 2015 · at 1:52 am EST/EDT

Re the Russian aircrash – though explosive traces have been found and Daesh claim the ‘credit’ , alternative (or parallel?) theories are still in play:

Dubai police chief fingers Mossad

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940901001451

eimar on November 23, 2015 · at 2:07 am EST/EDT

Since ISIS is not an actual state like Syria and Iraq, the intervention must be coordinated with those respective countries. Otherwise the resolution would be authorizing an illegal invasion – a violation of the UN charter.

A chance for Russia/Syria/Iran axis to be the deciders this time.

They didn’t have the Russian airforce to contend with in Libya, so this is not Libya redux.

Wikispooks on November 23, 2015 · at 12:39 pm EST/EDT

Yes, maybe Bhadrakuma’s fears are overdone.

Here is the full text of the UNSC resolution. The most important part is numbered para 5 which begins:

“..Calls upon Member States that have the capacity to do so to take all necessary measures, in compliance with international law, in particular with the United Nations Charter, as well as international human rights, refugee and humanitarian law, on the territory under the control of ISIL also known as Da’esh, in Syria and Iraq, to redouble and coordinate their efforts to prevent and suppress terrorist acts committed specifically by ISIL also known as Da’esh as well as ANF, and all other individuals, groups, undertakings, and entities associated with Al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the United Nations Security Council…..”

Emphasis mine.

And, although the Western powers have a long and wretched track-record of simply ignoring such ‘niceties’ when it suits their purposes, on this occasion (as you rightly suggest) they will have the powerful and entrenched Russian military, with its clearly demonstrated ability to electronically blind US/NATO assets, plus should such be judged necessary.

I hope (and trust) that Putin and his military/intel analysts weighed all this very carefully (in spite of its lightening speed) before supporting the resolution. Who knows, it may even turn out to be a big plus for them and Syria since, if Assad were to similarly and openly request Iranian assistance, the resulting UN sanctioned ‘boots-on-the-ground’ could produce a decisive acceleration of the route of ISIL.

Watch out for the machinations of the infinately deceptive Israelis and their apparent behind-the-scenes plotting with France though.

Good that it makes specific reference to both ANF and ‘al-Qaeda’ too.
- eimar on November 23, 2015 · at 10:38 pm EST/EDT
  
  @Wikispooks
  
  Funny you mention the French:
  
  http://www.sott.net/article/307006-French-Finance-Minister-says-Europe-needs-access-to-SWIFT-payments-data-to-combat-militants
  
  Two Israeli companies – Verint and NARVA with connections to Mossad – were implicated in the the NSA illegal mass surveillance scandal: all the data was also collected in Israel. One company was later sold to Comverse, a subsidiary of Boeing.
  
  An investigation to see if SWIFT data was fatally compromised concluded it wasn’t – but who is to say that was really the case? Why would the NSA and the Israelis not do something more , rather than less illegal? Would they really let multiple opportunities for blackmail/political-industrial espionage go to waste ?
  
  There are a number of ways to interpret this French initiative.
  
  They may be seeing the writing on the wall re Israel – BDS has serious traction in Europe – and be seeking ‘wriggle room’ with a move towards Russia.
  
  This could be a ‘we hear ya’ from the French to Putin’s revelations at the G20 summit.
  
  And the Paris attack may well have sobered them into the realisation that Zionism and its evil twin Wahaabism could start a real conflagration in France.
  
  Or it could be an attempt to extract/re-route seriously compromising data at source, with the Israelis hacking to ‘disappear’ it. The NSA was intercepting data in a location in San Francisco so there is no reason they couldn’t ‘doctor’ it to cover the tracks of guilty parties and divert it to implicate desired targets.
  
  One thing for sure, Hollande’s days are definitely numbered.

Anonymous on November 23, 2015 · at 7:41 am EST/EDT

Does somebody know what do the election resaults mean for Argentina? What was the winning party’s stance on banksters, Empire, Russia?

nunya on November 30, 2015 · at 12:28 am EST/EDT

Compact between EU & Turkey

this is all my opinion and I am not associated to this or other blog.

This is significant…it is a game changer, and without a declaration of all out war, I don’t see how it will be by passed.
You have to control the sea’s, and space to control the ‘flow of money (cables and sitcoms) and even china does not have satellites in place yet.
If Russia does not run into trouble at istanbul and I think it will, it would have to be an outright declaration of war. And it would seem the global elites are doing everything within their power to make russia give first strike, which in itself is interesting. unless they truly feel president putin would not give an order for a first nuclear stike. in which case, they still want him to initiate something so they will retaliate with first strike telling he world there was no other way. The globalist will not stop until they either are no more, or Russia’s is broke up. They want/need those resources.

However, *IF* russia made a deal with Egypt to guard the new off shore gas fields that puts them at Port Said, if you control Port Said, he can control the Met and Black Sea from there. strangling Egypt. of course, imho.

BRF on December 09, 2015 · at 3:30 am EST/EDT

While Russia leaves the door open just in case Europe might want to at some point exchange dialogue without US-Central banker’s oversight, knowing that Europe is a subordinate I sometimes wonder if Russia knows that Europe may underneath everything actually be hostile with their own plans for Asia.

The west will continue to try and provoke Russia to act rashly in Syrian and elsewhere. The best revenge Russia can take is to cut the western backed terrorist mercenary supply lines and continue to give close support to the SAA and her allies as they advance from victory to victory. The Assad-Syrian government and its supporters are on the legally righteous side of history and many in the west know this but are powerless to stop the plutocrats and their puppets that rule over them. Perhaps RT can prove helpful in this sphere? Ignore the taunts and annoyances and make haste to achieve victory by pushing the terrorists out of Syria. Those that surrender may be shown some mercy, while those terrorist that pursue a guerrilla war against Syria from Turkey, Israel, Iraq or Jordan after being expelled must face the severest of penalties. What Russia and China can do to bring the US-Central banker controlled Mid East puppet states to their self interest senses I have no idea other than to show and lead by example in central Asia what true bi-lateral trade and friendship means. I imagine at some point the US-Central bankers will attack Russia through a NATO subjugate either as a false flag (ignore this provocation if at all possible) or outright overt attack as with Georgia which will have to be repelled. If Russia and China (watch out for treachery here) can wait it out the western economy may collapse enough to render its war machine impotent if the reserve currency status is somehow revoked or substantially reduced. There are so many variables its a wonder anyone can figure out what the heck is going on without an insiders knowledge of strategic planning of all the parties. I look forward to the Saker’s much superior knowledge and insight in these matters being shared…and he will always be the one and only “Saker” to me even if he reveals his identity, but I rather like the anonymity aspect. So screw the ingrates as eventually their hatreds will dry them up into withered husks and they will blow away in the wind.

Karl Pomeroy on December 23, 2015 · at 11:20 pm EST/EDT

The Muslim refugee crisis in Europe has reached such proportions, and is so alarmly tolerated by the Global Financial Elite, who largely pull the strings of such figures as Angela Merkel and Barack Obama, it is time to examine who really is enabling this cataclysmic situation. Obama may be a puppet, but his Muslim sympathies make him particularly vulnerable. The commentary below explores some of the ins and outs of the refugee question, who is responsible, and what the global ramifications might be.

https://quemadoinstitute.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/destructive-us-president-creates-world-political-vacuum/

OPEN THREAD to discuss Syrian situation, the A321, the Paris Attacks, and Ukraine

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