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Poland is HIDING the truth from the world and it’s getting bad – Redacted with Clayton Morris

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  1. pabloz on January 21, 2023  ·  at 4:03 pm EST/EDT

    from what ive been reading the USA is backing the opposition in the upcoming elections. seems the current leadership isnt poodled enough

    • eddie on January 21, 2023  ·  at 7:45 pm EST/EDT

      Exactly.. Like many other countries, the good people of Poland always seem to be represented by barking-mad fascists, so the next election will offer them no respite.. We have come to expect this of them, the Baltic-3, and a growing number of nazi-loving regimes world-wide.. What a role-model he was, that Hitler guy..

  2. ann on January 21, 2023  ·  at 8:04 pm EST/EDT

    what a fantastic interview – this Pole is a great speaker and perfect English – thanks for posting – there is a criminal cabal in charge of every country that isn’t eastern….Russia being the line….Russia to save our entire world…and the east will even be kind to westerners – once this cancerous plague on western governments and leaders are gone

    • ann on January 21, 2023  ·  at 8:29 pm EST/EDT

      here is opinion on the same topic –

      Why Would Poland Ever Support Ukraine ?

      Martin Armstrong

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/why-would-poland-ever-support-ukraine/

  3. Skip59 on January 21, 2023  ·  at 8:34 pm EST/EDT

    A very good and enlightening conversation about the typical disinformation coming out of the western media. Think you for this reason.

  4. DidierF on January 22, 2023  ·  at 12:21 am EST/EDT

    We are deeper in that s..t that I thought. WWIII ! Here we come ! I’d better start loving nuclear mushrooms.

  5. Larchmonter445 on January 22, 2023  ·  at 12:34 pm EST/EDT

    Russia can keep Poland out by ‘negotiating’ a region of west Ukraine. Dangling what Poland wants (and has some legal claim to) behind the scenes puts a passive weapon in the hands of the Kremlin.

    Keeping the ‘deal’ secret also is useful. Poland dare not want its citizens to know they can get what they want without joining the war into which the US and NATO are pushing them.

    In practice, Poland can become an ‘agent’ for the Kremlin. Passing Intel on when and where weapons are passed or stored before transferred to Kiev is a payment by Poland for taking what they want from the Ukie carcass.

    Poland is like Turkey before Erdogan saw the light and leveraged his position within NATO. Whose side is he on? Doesn’t matter. Russia knows what he will and won’t do. And it is always in his interest to never harm Russia. Poland can follow in that pattern.

    The greater the threat to Poland from the US, the more likely Russians behind the scenes can exploit that threat.

    • AHH on January 22, 2023  ·  at 2:59 pm EST/EDT

      With the secret approach, Russia may not be given a chance to deconflict. The same masters of the Poles played the same game with the Soviets. And do Poles today enjoy any more agency than Ukies? Or if they do, are they any saner than neocons?

      It may be wiser for Medvedev to openly publicize the deal with Poland. Their current leadership under the thumb of the ideologue Kaczyński may be too far gone to reverse course. Hitler was also promised much secretly under Ribbentrop-Molotov.. crazies under the Anglo piper always want a little more — from Belarus to the Black Sea? The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at its height included Minsk and nearly reached the Black Sea. The 3-Seas Intermarium madness has been built up by the usual suspects for decade, exactly whetting appetites and encouraging this revanchism. So current domestically unpopular and crazy Polish elite need to be put on the spot, and not pretend-engage in secret deals which would likely betray both their captive population and the Russians. And the time to do it is yesterday, before they openly invade without permission, having run out of useful Ukies, setting off a most regretful cascade of events.

    • canuck on January 22, 2023  ·  at 4:54 pm EST/EDT

      Excellent analysis, thank you

  6. Skip59 on January 22, 2023  ·  at 2:22 pm EST/EDT

    Found this very interesting article:
    The strategic plan of the United States against Russia was elaborated three years ago by the Rand Corporation (the manifesto, Rand Corp: how to bring down Russia, May 21, 2019). The Rand Corporation, headquartered in Washington, DC, is “a global research organization developing solutions to policy challenges”: it has an army of 1,800 researchers and other specialists recruited from 50 countries, speaking 75 languages, spread across offices and other locations in North America, Europe, Australia, and the Persian Gulf. Rand’s U.S. personnel live and work in more than 25 countries.

    The Rand Corporation, which describes itself as a “nonprofit, nonpartisan organization,” is officially funded by the Pentagon, the U.S. Army and Air Force, national security agencies (CIA and others), agencies in other countries, and powerful non-governmental organizations.

    The Rand Corp. prides itself on having helped devise the strategy that enabled the United States to emerge victorious from the Cold War, forcing the Soviet Union to consume its resources in a grueling military confrontation. This model has inspired the new plan elaborated in 2019: “Overextending and Unbalancing Russia”, i.e. forcing the adversary to overextend itself in order to unbalance and knock it down.

    These are the main lines of attack outlined in the Rand plan, on which the United States has actually moved in recent years.

    First of all – the plan establishes – Russia must be attacked on the most vulnerable side, that of its economy strongly dependent on gas and oil exports: for this purpose commercial and financial sanctions must be used and, at the same time, Europe must be made to decrease the importation of Russian natural gas, replacing it with US liquefied natural gas.

    In the ideological and informational field, it is necessary to encourage internal protests and at the same time undermine the image of Russia outside.

    In the military field, it is necessary to operate so that European NATO countries increase their forces in an anti-Russian function. The US can have high probability of success and high benefits with moderate risks by investing more in strategic bombers and long-range attack missiles directed against Russia. Deploying new intermediate-range nuclear missiles in Europe aimed at Russia assures them a high probability of success, but also carries high risks.

    By calibrating each option to obtain the desired effect – Rand concludes – Russia will end up paying the highest price in the confrontation with the US, but the latter and their allies will have to invest large resources to divert them from other purposes.

    As part of that strategy – the Rand Corporation’s 2019 plan predicted – “providing lethal aid to Ukraine would exploit Russia’s greatest point of external vulnerability, but any increase in U.S.-provided weapons and military advice to Ukraine would have to be carefully calibrated to increase costs to Russia without provoking a much larger conflict in which Russia, because of proximity, would have significant advantages.”

    It is precisely here – at what the Rand Corporation called “Russia’s greatest external vulnerability point,” exploitable by arming Ukraine in a manner “calibrated to increase costs to Russia without provoking a much larger conflict” – that the rupture occurred. Caught in the political, economic and military stranglehold that the US and NATO increasingly tightened, ignoring Moscow’s repeated warnings and proposals for negotiation, Russia reacted with the military operation that destroyed more than 2,000 military facilities in Ukraine that were actually built and controlled not by Kiev’s rulers but by US-NATO commands.

    The article that three years ago reported the Rand Corporation’s plan ended with these words: “The options in the plan are really only variants of the same war strategy, the price of which in terms of sacrifices and risks is paid by all of us”. We European people are paying it now, and we will pay it more and more dearly, if we continue to be expendable pawns in the US-NATO strategy.

    Manlio Dinucci, award winning author, geopolitical analyst and geographer, Pisa, Italy. He is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG).

    Mod: a link or some kind of reference to the original article would be useful.

    • Rusty on January 22, 2023  ·  at 4:27 pm EST/EDT

      The introductory article appears to be …

      https://geopolitics.co/2022/03/13/ukraine-it-was-all-written-in-the-rand-corp-plan/

      The cited RAND brief may be …

      https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

  7. c1p1m3 on February 22, 2023  ·  at 6:23 am EST/EDT

    The EU needs to be abolished completely. It sucks billions out of the economies of Europe. The euro has doomed countries to permenant penury and citizens to future poverty. Worse it`s unelected members peddle war & death . They preen on the world stage like tin-pot presidents of a fictional United States of Europe. Worse still the supposed elected governments allow this macarbe charade because they themselves sing from the same w ef funereal hym sheet.

    And NATO>?…Thatcher (the last British PM we ever had) was absolutely correct in opposing German reunification.
    We have over 100,000 dead Ukranians to prove it.

    And how European leaders smirked when President Trump called them out on failing to contribute to their defence through NATO while actively making themselves economically dependant on Russian oil.

    So who are these current European leaders? who resemble that doomed child wife of Henry VIII who on the eve of he execution requeste d the block brought to her rooom that she might practice laying her neck across it.

    The millitary, crown police and judiciary.
    Who are they?
    Where are they?

    What was a standing English Army ever for.
    The scum of the earth…was it,
    To protect the King from Parliament?
    To protect Parliament from the King?
    Or
    To protect the peoples right
    to ordain the former
    and choose the latter
    and to be able to speak freely on all matters.

    3-0

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