http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68287
President of Russia Vladimir Putin:
Mr Secretary-General,
I am very happy to see you.
As one of the founders of the United Nations and a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia has always supported this universal organisation. We believe the UN is not simply universal but it is unique in a way – the international community does not have another organisation like it. We are doing all we can to support the principles on which it rests, and we intend to continue doing this in the future.
We find the expression of some of our colleagues about a world based on rules somewhat strange. We believe the main rule is the UN Charter and other documents adopted by this organisation rather than some papers written by their authors as they see fit or aimed at ensuring their own interests.
We are also surprised to hear statements by our colleagues that imply that some in the world have exceptional status or can claim exclusive rights because the Charter of the United Nations reads that all participants in international communication are equal regardless of their strength, size or geographical location. I think this is similar to what the Bible reads about all people being equal. I am sure we will find the same idea in both the Quran and the Torah. All people are equal before God. So, the idea that someone can claim a kind of exceptional status is very strange to us.
We are living in a complicated world, and, therefore, we proceed from reality and are willing to work with everyone.
No doubt, at one time the United Nations was established to resolve acute crises and went through different periods in its development. Quite recently, just several years ago, we heard it had become obsolete, and there was no need for it anymore. This happened whenever it prevented someone from reaching their goals in the international arena.
We have always said that there is no other universal organisation like the United Nations, and it is necessary to cherish the institutions that were created after WWII for the express purpose of settling disputes.
I know about your concern over Russia’s military operation in Donbass, in Ukraine. I think this will be the focus of our conversation today. I would just like to note in this context that the entire problem emerged after a coup d’état staged in Ukraine in 2014. This is an obvious fact. You can call it whatever name you like and have whatever bias in favour of those who did it, but this was really an anti-constitutional coup.
This was followed by the situation with the expression of their will by the residents of Crimea and Sevastopol. They acted in practically the same way as the people living in Kosovo – they made a decision on independence and then turned to us with a request to join the Russian Federation. The only difference between the two cases was that in Kosovo this decision on sovereignty was adopted by Parliament whereas Crimea and Sevastopol made it at a nationwide referendum.
A similar problem emerged in south-eastern Ukraine, where the residents of several territories, at least, two Ukrainian regions, did not accept the coup d’état and its results. But they were subjected to very strong pressure, in part, with the use of combat aviation and heavy military equipment. This is how the crisis in Donbass, in south-eastern Ukraine, emerged.
As you know, after another failed attempt by the Kiev authorities to resolve this problem by force, we arrived at the signing of agreements in the city of Minsk. This is what they were called – the Minsk Agreements. It was an attempt to settle the situation in Donbass peacefully.
To our regret, during the past eight years the people that lived there found themselves under a siege. The Kiev authorities announced in public that they were organising a siege of these territories. They were not embarrassed to call it a siege although initially they had renounced this idea and continued military pressure.
Under the circumstances, after the authorities in Kiev actually went on record as saying – I would like to emphasise that the top state officials announced this in public – that they did not intend to fulfil the Minsk Agreements, we were compelled to recognise these regions as independent and sovereign states to prevent the genocide of the people living there. I would like to reiterate: this was a forced measure to stop the suffering of the people living in those territories.
Unfortunately, our colleagues in the West preferred to ignore all this. After we recognised the independence of these states, they asked us to render them military aid because they were subjected to military actions, an armed aggression. In accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, Chapter VII, we were forced to do this by launching a special military operation.
I would like to inform you that although the military operation is underway, we are still hoping to reach an agreement on the diplomatic track. We are conducting talks. We have not abandoned them.
Moreover, at the talks in Istanbul, and I know that you have just been there since I spoke with President Erdogan today, we managed to make an impressive breakthrough. Our Ukrainian colleagues did not link the requirements for Ukraine’s international security with such a notion as Ukraine’s internationally recognised borders, leaving aside Crimea, Sevastopol and the newly Russia-recognised Donbass republics, albeit with certain reservations.
But, unfortunately, after reaching these agreements and after we had, in my opinion, clearly demonstrated our intentions to create the conditions for continuing the talks, we faced a provocation in the town of Bucha, which the Russian Army had nothing to do with. We know who was responsible, who prepared this provocation, using what means, and we know who the people involved were.
After this, the position of our negotiators from Ukraine on a further settlement underwent a drastic change. They simply renounced their previous intentions to leave aside issues of security guarantees for the territories of Crimea, Sevastopol and the Donbass republics. They simply renounced this. In the relevant draft agreement presented to us, they simply stated in two articles that these issues must be resolved at a meeting of the heads of state.
It is clear to us that if we take these issues to the heads of state level without even resolving them in a preliminary draft agreement, they will never be resolved. In this case, we simply cannot sign a document on security guarantees without settling the territorial issues of Crimea, Sevastopol and the Donbass republics.
Nevertheless, the talks are going on. They are now being conducted online. I am still hoping that this will lead us to some positive result.
This is all I wanted to say in the beginning. I am sure we will have many questions linked with this situation. Maybe there will be other questions as well. We will talk.
I am very happy to see you. Welcome to Moscow.
(In his remarks, the UN Secretary General expressed concern over the situation in Ukraine, while emphasising the need for a multilateral world order based on the UN Charter and international law. Antonio Guterres also presented the two proposals he had put forward the same day during his meeting with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. These proposals concern humanitarian matters, including humanitarian corridors, in particular, for Mariupol residents, as well as setting up a humanitarian contact group in which the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UN OCHA), the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), Russia, and Ukraine would work together to discuss the situation in order to make these corridors truly safe and effective.)
Vladimir Putin: Mr Secretary General,
Regarding the invasion, I am well-versed in the documents of the International Court on the situation in Kosovo. In fact, I have read them myself. I remember very well the decision by the International Court, which states that when fulfilling its right to self-determination a territory within any state does not have to seek permission from the country’s central government in order to proclaim its sovereignty. This was the ruling on Kosovo, and this is what the International Court decided, and everyone supported it. I personally read all the comments issued by the judicial, administrative and political bodies in the United States and Europe – everyone supported this decision.
If so, the Donbass republics, the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic, can enjoy the same right without seeking permission from Ukraine’s central government and declare their sovereignty, since the precedent has been created.
Is this so? Do you agree with this?
(Antonio Guterres noted that the United Nations did not recognise Kosovo).
Vladimir Putin: Yes, of course, but the court did. Let me finish what I was saying.
If there is a precedent, the Donbass republics can do the same. This is what they did, while we, in turn, had the right to recognise them as independent states.
Many countries around the world did this, including our Western opponents, with Kosovo. Many states recognised Kosovo. It is a fact that many Western countries recognised Kosovo as an independent state. We did the same with the Donbass republics. After that, they asked us to provide them with military assistance to deal with the state that launched military operations against them. We had the right to do so in full compliance with Chapter VII, Article 51 of the UN Charter.
Just a second, we will talk about this in a minute. But first I would like to address the second part of your question, Mariupol. The situation is difficult and possibly even tragic there. But in fact, it is very simple.
I had a conversation with President Erdogan today. He spoke about the ongoing fighting there. No, there is no fighting there; it is over. There is no fighting in Mariupol; it has stopped.
Part of the Ukrainian armed forces that were deployed in other industrial districts have surrendered. Nearly 1,300 of them have surrendered, but the actual figure is larger. Some of them were injured or wounded; they are being kept in absolutely normal conditions. The wounded have received medical assistance from our doctors, skilled and comprehensive assistance.
The Azovstal plant has been fully isolated. I have issued instructions, an order to stop the assault. There is no direct fighting there now. Yes, the Ukrainian authorities say that there are civilians at the plant. In this case, the Ukrainian military must release them, or otherwise they will be doing what terrorists in many countries have done, what ISIS did in Syria when they used civilians as human shields. The simplest thing they can do is release these people; it is as simple as that.
You say that Russia’s humanitarian corridors are ineffective. Mr Secretary-General, you have been misled: these corridors are effective. Over 100,000 people, 130,000–140,000, if I remember correctly, have left Mariupol with our assistance, and they are free to go where they want, to Russia or Ukraine. They can go anywhere they want; we are not detaining them, but we are providing assistance and support to them.
The civilians in Azovstal, if there are any, can do this as well. They can come out, just like that. This is an example of a civilised attitude to people, an obvious example. And anyone can see this; you only need to talk with the people who have left the city. The simplest thing for military personnel or members of the nationalist battalions is to release the civilians. It is a crime to keep civilians, if there are any there, as human shields.
We maintain contact with them, with those who are hiding underground at the Azovstal plant. They have an example they can follow: their comrades-in-arms have surrendered, over a thousand of them, 1,300. Nothing bad has happened to them. Moreover, Mr Secretary-General, if you wish, if representatives of the Red Cross and the UN want to inspect their detainment conditions and see for themselves where and how medical assistance is being provided to them, we are ready to organise this. It is the simplest solution to a seemingly complex issue.
Let us discuss this.
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President Putin is right. if there are civilians in the underground, either if they are hostages or families of the Azov’s, they must be released, Otherwise is a crime to use them s human shields either if they are jostages or if they are the Azov Wives and children. It’s simple like that. if azov wants to die underground let that be, but I don’t believe women and children that could be ther wantoi to do that.
The problem here is finding mutually agreeable observers to verify the safety, security and constituency of those claiming the right to be evacuated. Ukraine may prefer that those in Marioupol fight to the death, and become martyrs to the cause, like Masada and Marioupol. Foreign fighters may be equipped with those dollars, like Francis Gary Powers, and be expected to “Spend the dollar.” (That was a dollar that had a poisoned pin inserted into it.)
US of Israel are exceptional
war crimes are only for their enemies
they don’t care about our little accusations in their tsunami of lies
the only thing they will understand is force
let them and their populace feel the pain they so richly deserve
How many a reports of war crimes by Israel were tabled at the UN, only to be vetoed by America !
Did America take UN approval when it arbitrarily attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria? American war crimes are too many.
The UN is a toothless puppet when America/Israel commit war crimes, invade smaller nations. Yet, when it suits those same powerful/influential offending nations, they cry about rules and international law. Just how quickly was the international court brought from slumber to initiate a case against Russia while it had been sleeping for years over the Palestinian sufferings, or Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam !!
Iam disappointed Mr.Putin didn’t highlight unilateral excesses and war crimes of America and Israel.
The UN president is a toothless puppet before the secret state. Check what Nikki Haley said when the apartheid report was tabled against Israel: They called the UN secretary general and the next thing was that the one who submitted the report was forced to resign and the report abandoned.
This visit by the UN official seems to be an excuse to buy time. He knows very well for sure the Israeli and American war crimes. Nothing that Russia says or does will satisfy these international institutions controlled by Zionist America. Does anyone think the UN will buy Russia’s clarifications? The UN knows well what was happening then and now in Ukraine.
The strategy of zelstein and his foreign backers is to complicate the living hell out of this azovstal issue, and use it to garner sympathy, propaganda, and of course more money and weapons aid. They seek to use it as a delaying tactic. Russia must put a stop to this and make no deal. Putin should tell Gutless-ierez the US Errand Boy that these azovstal militants must either surrender, or they will die. There will be no internationally supervised rescues or extractions of these people who are dangerous and who committed criminal acts against civilians in Mariupol. As for the civilians down there, that if kiev regime does not order their release, the kiev regime will be held accountable for their fate. Russia being too damn nice. That’s how Russia gets screwed. happened in Syria a number of times. US and its vassals and proxies cannot be trusted. They are damaged goods.
The US regime slapped ICC judges with sanctions a few years back when they wanted to investigate US war crimes in Afghanistan. So the US appealing to the ICC now when it wants to put pressure on Russia is absurd.
Good point. That speaks to the exceptionalism to which Putin was referring. When US exceptionalism is the accepted way, then the only point of all these institutions is to beat up everyone else with them. They are just a US tool, and a laughable one when they invite the Saudi Arabian minister to become the human rights minister. It might be funny for those that make these things happen, but less so for all the tortured, incarcerated political prisoners around the world.
I think that the situation with the azovstal nazis and any civilians they may be holding there is more serious. I don’t think that even if these ukronazis are ordered by zelstein himself to release the civilians they may be hiding, or even surrender themselves, that the ukronaiz will obey such orders. These are deranged people, and they want to be released with no questions asked, or die. The former is not possible. So only the latter is left.
A curtain has been drawn among us
not of geography or politics
but made of morality.
The Moral Curtain
Evil on one side.
Good the other.
Saints above.
The best of us lead.
The rest follow
or resist.
That’s right. It all boils down to Team God versus Team satan. All issues can be distilled down to one or the other team. With Russia perhaps, I pray, being the triumphant Northern Kingdom. Praying that God blesses Putin, keeps him safe and strong.
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Please get back on topic. The Mod.
Gutter-Stooge Pres did you take in everything that was said or like your paymasters do you have selective hearing?
Putin’s romantic notion that the UN serves each country’s interests as per its charter is just that.
A new body needs to be formed to replace the UN if rogue States like America are allowed to genocide/sanction their way through sovereign nations who they deem unfriendly.
Gaddafi said the same thing at the UN years ago, and the usual suspects walked out and refused to listen. And then they lynched him for daring to challenge the “rules based” dollar order by suggesting a gold backed African currency.
https://www.www.africanews.com/amp/2017/09/19/speech-muammar-gaddafi-at-the-64th-un-general-assembly-in-2009/
Cannot access the link. Wonder if due Western censorship
The string “www.” is repeated. Delete one of them and the link works.
Intensity of their rage against Ghaddafi is measure of pain they feel now, when preciouss $ is abandoned before their eyes.
And only they can do is to curse and to threat with collective suicide.
War in Ukraine is nothing compared to this. If collective West lose, price will be horrendous, olygarchs will dethrone present monarch(s). That’s why they will go all-or-nothing. But so it will Russia and China.
We ain’t seen nothing yet.
Gaddafi received the same western demonization as Putin, although Putin is magnitudes better than Gaddafi, perhaps because of his position in the world as demonstrated by his successes to date, but God bless Gaddafi for his massive attempt at betterment for the African continent. It makes one weep. Men who want to make their own people, heritage and countries stronger, more sovereign, and better in all ways, cultural, business, etc. Those men are attacked and usually killed. By the west. President Putin has so far prevailed and I pray he lives on and on and on to bring Russia to her full bloom.
It’s telling that the globalists have destroyed men like this for decades now. It’s so shameful for the west. May God protect President Putin, who, as far as I’m concerned, is the greatest leader of our times, for multiple reasons, the proof being in the pudding, including WW3 averted several times up till now. God bless President Putin, President Xi, and Elon Musk if he’s able to bring about a storm of freedom on social media in the declining U.S.
The world wants peace, not war. Please God, let it be known and prevail. Let the veil of lies be lifted from the eyes of western liberals, who are being absorbed and abused by globalists (the Empire of Lies), who want a few overlords over the masses of serfs in the slums, but who cultivate liberals by deceiving liberals with the old cold war mentality as well as obsolete positions on ‘left vs right’ when it is now the few uber-rich globalists against the world of everyone else, normal working people. There is no right vs left dichotomy. There are no true conservative parties in the west, held back by degenerate liberals who want to keep down the more desirable platforms. The conservative actors are in on the kabuki theater and they’re all corrupt. Remember, it’s now Globalists vs all the world. The only world leader I trust on this issue is President Vladimir Putin, who understands the value of the sovereign state, the nation state, the heritage and culture of particular peoples, and the multipolar way of governing allowing that to thrive. President Putin said that during tumultuous times, a more conservative government is needed, and I cannot agree more. God bless Putin, may he live and govern a long time, for the sake of Russia, and the world. Peace be with you.
It’s sometimes a good idea to read between the lines.
Exactly!! Many don’t do that
@ WTFUD
International lawyer Ambassador J. Reuben Clarke, Jr. said:
“There seems no reason to doubt that such real approval as the Charter has among the people is based upon the belief that if the charter is put into effect, wars will end…The charter will not certainly end war. The Charter provides for force to bring peace, but such use of force is itself war…The Charter does not take from us the power to declare war and to choose the side on which one must fight.”
Herbert Hoover on August 10, 1962 said: {Note this was said circa 1962}
“I urged the ratification of the United Nations by the Senate, but now we must realize the United Nations has failed to give us even a remote hope of lasting peace. Instead it adds to the dangers of war, which now surround us.”
Dr. Willard Cantelon said:
“I wonder, i said to myself how many Americans have studied the charter of the UN sufficiently to realize that it commits each member nation to a program of total socialism for itself and for all other nations. Alger Hiss was a major architect of the UN charter and served as the secretary general of the San Francisco conference for the organization of the United Nations. Twenty-five years later, U Thant was quoted praising Lenin as a political leader whose ideals were reflected in the United Nations charter.”
On August 23, 1970, U Thant addressed the 14 World congress of World Association of World Federalists in Ottawa, Canada, and said:
“A world under law is realistic and obtainable. the ultimate crisis before the UN is the crisis of authority.”
and heres soem interesting history:
“The convention conducted by the lawyers and judges of the world in the interest of world law was a solemen sight indeed. there were 263 judges from every continent, Africans in red robes, sitting by Indians and Pakistanis, and Israeli’s, and 5 justices from the U. S Supreme Court. Even a copy of the Magna Carta was on hand. and banners across the platform read “Pax Orbis ex Jure,” meaning “World Peace by World Law.”
There were 119 countries represented. the main decision was to recommend that the UN Charter be amended to provide compulsory jurisdiction for individuals, as well as nation. A Judiciary system modeled after the world court. Decisions enforced by a world police force under the command of a world executive.
Would man be willing to resign such power to the United Nations, knowing it was under Communistic domination? For many the answer was yes. One person said:
“If the price of avoiding all out thermal nuclear wars should prove to be acquiescence in the Communistic domination of the world, it seems probable that such a price would be paid.
And if the question was asked, ‘Why?’ perhaps the answer would best be expressed by Adlai Stevenson, who in a speech to the United Nations correspondents Association said,
“Interpret us …as puzzled, yet aspiring men, struggling on the possible brink of Armageddon.”
It is this quote which surely sums up all of the world problems:
Dr. Julian Huxley who had served as Director of UNESCO, said:
“While a faint trace of God still broods over the world like the smile of a Cheshire cat, science and knowledge will soon rub that trace away.”
This quote so full of ignorance by a man of such power, I can only imagine if he knew the truth about climate change as being the work of God in relation to the pollution of sin what would he have done about it?
see here: /book-review-andrei-martyanovs-the-real-revolution-in-military-affairs/#comment-729151
So WTFUD ….Putin’s romantic notion that the UN serves each country’s interests as per its charter is just that. Romantic lol yes!!!?? Unbelievable!
Ah, but I have more questions that perplex and bother me the most serious revolves around the worlds monarchies or lets just say the European monarchies? In all my studies and reading whats always missing where the UN is concerned? Monarchy? Surely they have something to say about their own countries but I find little to nothing? What or why aren’t they consulted on matters affecting their own nations and people?
What Lenin and Stalin are the go too’s?
Excellent Gerry, I hope Rafael above has read your piece. Reading between the lines in this instance is a crock, like searching for a palatable explanation for genocide. If the UN was worthwhile Hillary, Obama, Bush and their sidekick enablers would be behind bars.
Notice how this punishment is only dished out to African or 3rd world leaders who’ve been armed by western degenerates.
A fine example of what is really going on. mr Putin explained everything in simple and humane terms. Mr Guterres then tried to muddy the water by saying that, in spite of the decision of the International Court, the UN did not recognise Kosovo. Meanwhile, if I recollect rightly, the US government does not even recognise the International Court – at least, it does not acknowledge its jurisdiction.
This reminds one of a conjuror or a shell game operator. “You cite the International Court? Oh no, so sorry, we don’t admit that decision. We follow the UN in that respect. But of course, if you were to cite the UN, we would bid the International Court (or some other body)”.
The USA has been owned by crooked businessmen for over 150 years. Like all such businessmen, it makes lavish use of the services of crooked lawyers (the Americans even have a special word for such people: “shysters”).
The Russians and other honest people respect the law and follow it. The Americans and British study the law in order to find loopholes; and, if they find none, they put them in.
Mr. Guterres was elected UN General Secretary for some reason. Already as prime-minister of Portugal between 1995 and 2002 he showed his low moral values and oportunism by resigning for no good reason (suposedly because of the bad outcome of the 2001 local elections for the party in power, the Socialist Party), giving away the government to the imensily incompetent Santana Lopes (who endured only four months as the next prime-minister). The consequence was a general election, the outcome of which was a right-wing coalition government with Durão Barroso at the helm, which himself resigned a couple of years after to go for the European Commission, then non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International, and currently Chair of the Gavi Board (the prizes for putting together the Azores summit that set the stage for the war in Iraq (remember war criminals Bush, Blair, and Aznar, in the middle of the Atlantic giving an ultimatum to the UN?). The way I would describe Guterres is as an arrogant POS and a career politician who doesn’t give a dime about the common man. Only Barroso is worse, if that is possible, both the lowest kind of people.
So much cognitive dissonance. The “west” is so arrogant that it simply fails to see how the precedents it has set can be used by others. I think that at a very deep level, this is Russia’s information war: to clearly and fundamentally expose western hypocrisy. I don’t think it is an attempt to destroy the west, rather one to equalize it in a true, multipolar world.
franchement j’adore ce president Vladimir POUTINE
c’est un exemple pour le monde
et un espoir de justice et de paix pour nous autres peuples du sud ( je suis marocain resident dans mon pays , au Maroc )
l’espoir que plus jamais nous ne risqueront d’etre bombarder du ciel par les grandes democraties atlantistes qui se donnent a eux seul le droit de bombarder des pays , massacrer des peuples et imposer des embargos ou sanctions criminels
vive la Sainte RUSSIE
vive l’Armée Russe
vive le peuple de RUSSIE
et vive son president Vladimir POUTINE
transcriptions / translate
frankly I love this president Vladimir PUTIN
it is an example for the world
and a hope of justice and peace for us other peoples of the south (I am Moroccan living in my country, in Morocco)
the hope that never again will we risk being bombarded from the sky by the great Atlanticist democracies which alone give themselves the right to bomb countries, massacre peoples and impose embargoes or criminal sanctions
long live holy russia
Long live the Russian Army
long live the people of Russia
and long live its president Vladimir PUTIN
Man, that Putin character sure kicks some …ahem ..posterior!
Can anyone imagine one of the western clowns, like the incontinent and senile Biden or the gibbering and cavorting fatty-BoJo, putting on a similar impressive performance? Lol.
I believe we’re born with a certain description and it says upfront at what level you can and will lie throughout life. Politicians, certainly the current western ones, can be found mostly on one side of the spectrum. They can and will lie as it suits them, not blinking an eye, without any moral compass and without scruples. For people on the other side of the spectrum, fair and honest always seeking for truth and reaching out for harmony, it’s almost impossible to understand these born liars. Since those liars are able to love their mums and cats, are not always in all situations behaving as bad people, but somehow they can turn a switch and go into actor mode playing a completely different role not care less about others and what havoc they create. You would think they could and should know that themselves, because the facts can be in plain sight. Also in plain sight for their mums. Still they go on as long as they can, even if it’s perfectly clear that no lie can hold of truth forever and all liars will fall eventually. Are they that stupid or is it what I mentioned in my first sentence, they are just born this way. In that case ‘we’ have to wait until such idiots stop being born.
Just have to outlive them.
No better example of what you are saying than the comment today by the EU claiming Russia, the country the EU is sanctioning, with economic blackmail against Poland and Bulgaria for shutting off the flow of natural gas to the gas companies operating in those nations for failure to pay for the gas in rubles. And this is to pay for natural gas that has already been delivered under contract by Russia.
Put the lie in plain sight and call it the truth. All I can say about that is Ukraine better watch its back.
The coming hypocrisy from Poland regarding the gas supply being stopped is incredible.They were warned.Russia does not bluff.It tells the truth.It was even made easy for them to pay!
I don’t really understand why so much emphasis is made of the gas being paid i rubles, when the main thing is that the money must be paid to a russian account. The europeans pay with dollars and euro, the russian bank exchanges it to rubles. Earlier payment was made to westerns banks and then cleared for russian purchases.
The western banks stole the money in the western banks, thus breaking every contract. And now the EU has the gall to say that Russia breaks contract, and is an unreliable partner!
It is obvious that every word they say now has been planned long ago, like Russia being an unreliable partner, and they have just been waiting for this moment.
They say that they can’t pay in rubles, because then they will break their own (illegal) sanctions, bur they don’t even have to pay with rubles!!
What they hate is to pay into a bank account they don’t control.
And the silly thing the “experts” say in western media, that by stopping the gas, Russia would lose money, so they can’t finance the war. But Russia wouldn’t have gotten the money anyway if it was not paid inte a Russian bank account!
Poland and Bulgaria tried good ol’ NYC virtue signaling, petulantly refusing to pay with Rubles.
Meanwhile 4 countries went ahead, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Serbia, leaving the clowns out standing in their field.
Russia said any siphoning by these 2 comedians will result in reduced flows.
And all this in spite of Ursula throwing a tantrum about ‘blackmail’ .
Popcorn is in order! (if there is any frying oil available).
Again – this is so pre-planned, they expected Russia to just cut the gas, and they had all their rethoric prepared, “Russia breaking contracts” and so on.
They did not expect that Russia would keep on selling gas (albeit paid for into Russian banks), and now they don’t hear how silly it sounds when they are yapping on about “Russia cutting the gas” when they are free to purchase as much as they want.
They are embarrasingly tone deaf!
It gets even funnier – these 2 will buy gas from other EU firms that pay in Rubles, meaning Germany and Hungary.
Maybe they should spot-price that! Such a transit service has a price!
The gas supplies should have been cut right on the day Russia’s assets were seized by the West and bank accounts frozen, citing lack of payment channel, and this itself would qualify as force majeure.
You keep hitting and stabbing me and call me a terrorist if I try to defend myself !
Might be cheaper to buy a steak then frying oil. :)
@bonbon:
On Russia Today I have read about 10 countries, which agreed to paying in rubles.
Kaczynski’s minions already said that we will pay more, but it is morally worth it. Some companies even before war got 500-800 % higher bills. Bakeries, some food factories, restaurants, butchers shop are being closed despite 30 years long history. Some of them survives through Covid lockdowns, but stupid polices of Kaczynski’s minions is too much for them. Sharp rise in prices was caused by renegotiating good long term contract with Russia for some short gain. Now with switching off Russian gas all those, who survived first blow, will be shutdown for good. Kaczynski is very good with killing our economy. All that to help some Ukrainian oligarchs like Zelensky and Banderovites/Nazis to stay in power. What’s more, they say that they have moral highground above Putin and his people, but they are just a bunch of low life thieves and scammers and there is no comparison.
@AndrewK – I’m seeing various numbers, and the hint the relevant firms are taking it into their hands, such as OMV, Uniper … . Other large industries might have to do the same to survive. These guys are after all major party donors.
About Kaczynski’s personal problem – his brother and Smolensk. Could he be easily manipulated by US trust-us files?
That’s their MO.
@bonbon:
Kaczynski knows that in Smolensk there was just an accident, which was easy to avoid. Pilot of Tu-154 knew about very bad weather conditions. It was too foggy. Required visibilty for that airport was 1000m. That day it was below 100m, so pilot was like a blind man. First he got warning from Russian controller that he was below line of horizon. Then there were multiple warnings from onboard systems “Pull up, terrain ahead”. Kaczynski knows all of this, but his well know pathological liar. Even US doesn’t support his anti russisan theory, because it is too outlandish and there were multiple US aviation experts, who publicly stated that it was just an accident, yet Kaczynski has chosen too push this fairy tail. I can speak at length about, how many times so called experts hired by his party, where caught with forging evidence or outrageous lies, but I don’t want to make offtopic here.
The EU gofers are now showing signs of desperation which is manifested by how stupid their grudges against Russia pops here and there. A deep feeling of envy resides within their small egos. They can’t explain how wanting to be paid in rubles constitutes blackmailing. Perhaps Russia is treating these spoiled kids in too civilized a manner that they don’t deserve at all.
It may be that the mission of Guterres was to be seen as a last desperate try before the SMO is attacked – by NATO troops inside Ukie border and so on. It looked disingenuous, like theater, an attempt to create the image so that nutzlossen of AZE will “consent” to direct conflict between NATO and RF that is already scheduled.
Yes, the historical precedents and impression are not encouraging. Further, there was likely a special mission in addition to internal AZE signaling before the war expansion.
Consider Guterres’ lack of visits to Moscow since February 24 or even attempts to negotiate a peace settlement from anywhere; his clear lack of overall impartiality; pointed remarks by Lavrov that his conduct was detrimental to his official role and capacity as UN head; his non response to the UK’s sabotage of the UNSC following the Bucha incident; and VVP’s recent refusals to take his calls, etc. At this point he was as personally discredited as the zombie reborn League of Nations which confronts us.
So he had to have a special brief of interest to the Russians in order to be admitted. In a way this was a mirror of Nuland’s visit last Autumn. But I agree, it was largely a disingenuous and insincere carrot intended to provide a war-legitimizing photo-op within Zone A. Similar sequences of “shuttle diplomacies” took place in the late 1930s.
Both sides have their protocols and formalities to observe, varying by belief system, even as they escort each other politely into the Abyss.
I love it, such eloquently explained how hypocrite the West is and how Putin instead followed international law. After so many years and still continuing bloody oppression by the West it makes me happy that Russia contains this filthy monster for almost ten years now.
It’s always a joy to see how the Russian President Putin makes his points, simple and straight forward. Here the puppet UN Secretary General seemed to have a low IQ. His argument about the humanitarian corridor in Mariupol sounded like he was repeating the instructions given to him by his handlers before he left his NY office, as it made no sense. There’s zero possibility that the Russian military or in fact any other country’s military personnel in the same situation would abruptly begin shooting the unarmed civilians as they’re coming out of the Azovstal tunnels – if that’s so. Then they could go free. But the militants – could stay there until the very end, no problem. How come the secretary general doesn’t understand it’s a clear sign of hostage taking by the Azov thugs?
Maskazer, the difference of course between President Putin and the West is that Russia know the truth and tell it that is why Mr President is able to make his points in a simple and straightforward manner, because he knows they are true and truth is on his side. Conversely, the West only has a Ponzi scheme of lies, lies, lies and damned lies so, instead of having the courage to stand up and say we have told too many lies, they continue to build and build those lies that’s why their rhetoric is all over the place, they simply can’t keep up because to tell the truth would collapse the Ponzi scheme. The thing with Ponzi schemes is that they have a history of massive collapse with serious consequences to the participants. Right now the West’s Ponzi scheme is at full capacity and cannot deliver on its investment of lies so it is now teetering on the brink of total collapse. They have nothing left in the scheme to continue to perpetrate it. Gazprom: Simples. If you don’t pay in the manner decreed by the Russian Govt No Petrol. We are not going to deliver it for free. Von der Leyen has no real response to that. The collapse of the Ponzi scheme has started.
Gutteres does understand that but what he really came to do was free the trapped foreign mercenaries,so that they can removed with red cross ambulances and ” UN peacekeepers”, and you must know the composition of those.
I believe the Western plan is to embed the ” foreigners” in with the children and women. That Russia still plays along with endless ridiculous negotiations and visits from these paid western lackeys is a mystery to me. Tell all of them to f..k off will straighten them.
Gutteres now goes to the Jewish Nazi clown zelinsky, but not before he briefs his boss, and words to the effect: ” we have a window where we can remove our people along with civilians”. Of course, this depends on if Russia can see through it, but there is something in there that the West is protecting.
Question: What are civilians doing underground in a steel plant? Humanitarian corridors have been open every day, including this plant.
As one of the founders of the United Nations and a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia has always supported this universal organisation.
I am always impressed with Vladimir Putin’s sense of history. Not for him to look at a problem with blinkers on and through tunnel vision. His letter to the Ukrainians prior to the SMO is an exemplary sample of his ability to situate a problem in its proper historical perspective; and his decisions informed by history. Contrast that with ‘leaders’ of the West who are ignorant of the past. They organise elaborate ceremonies to commemorate the war against Nazi Germany but now enthusiastically support a nazi regime in Kiev. The irony — not to mention the rank hypocrisy — seems to escape them.
Moreover, Mr Secretary-General, if you wish, if representatives of the Red Cross and the UN want to inspect their detainment conditions and see for themselves …
If the Portuguese is sincere, he’d accept VVP’s offer. But I do wish VVP had extended him an invitation to visit Melitopol or other liberated places in LDNR where children’s happy voices can be heard in the restored public parks.
“Sincere” is meaningless for this Portuguese: he is not his own man, he can’t be, even if he wanted to. All these organisations are under the boot of US/NATO.
So he will not even consider the proposal to send UN/ICRC teams into the Azovstal “catacombs”: he’s not allowed to.
Neither will he go to Melitopol: not allowed.
A mere slave… If he had any courage at all, he’d have made some significant statement there, in front of Putin. He didn’t. So just cross him out.
Yes, you’re right.
I’d already written him off after his dismal PC with Sergei Lavrov.
Wishful thinking on my part, Guterres or a UN delegation visiting liberated LDNR. I am hoping against hope that the UN would remain neutral and thus remain relevant. Difficult to see that happening with Guterres at the helm.
Now, this is a shining, exemplary example of real diplomacy and truth on the part of President Putin and Russia. It is factual, truthful and relevant. Guterres appears to me to be out of his depth on these issues and clearly hasn’t thought anything through. I strongly suspect that Guterres will, as per the Western deification of Zelensky, will gush about Ze’s fighting for democracy blah de blah de blah…. It is the Ukraine that keeps sabotaging the humanitarian corridors which is why they are not as effective as they could be. There is a very good article posted on another article here at the Saker from CairnNews Australia who yesterday did a video link interview with a Cossack Colonel in Azovstahl which is an eye opener. Apparently, there does appear to be some biolab work there. Also, the Colonel clearly states that 52 French Foreign Legion Mercenaries surrendered themselves to the Russian Army yesterday. So it would appear some of the speculation about Azovstal may well have a very strong evidence base. Let’s see. President Putin, as ever, is right about the fact that if there are civilians down there it is the responsibility of the Ukrainian Government (i.e. Zelensky) to order that they be immediately released for their safety and well-being. Guterres is truly out of his depth with heavy weights like Lavrov and Putin. He doesn’t think or blink. Just pedals the USA lies.
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Imagine this scenario:
Neighbors are called to help and several 9/11 calls are made claiming domestic abuse. The complaints are verified but instead of immediate intervention the abuser is repeatedly asked to cease and desist. The abuse intensifies and a special intervention is initiated. The facts on the ground show massive, lethal violence and it is clear that a simple restraining order would be insufficient. The abused wishes to be freed from the reach of the abuser. Actions to achieve that goal are being taken. The perpetrator(s) are to be punished, despite significant support from parties from far away locales.
HOWEVER, in the course of the investigation, evidence of even bigger crimes is discovered — a vast array of arsenals of lethal biological weapons that can only serve to commit crimes against humanity that could affect all the people in the region and even the world.
Question: At this point does it not make sense to CHANGE the initial plan to include, along with the liberation of the abused, the control and careful search of the entire territory to identify, document and destroy such arsenals, to identify all those involved in collaborating in these projects? If a domestic abuser is discovered in the course of the investigation to also be a psychopath carrying out plans to commit massive serial murders should this not lead to changing the scope of the special intervention?
Mike Whitney makes a good summary, based on significant information published by the Saker, that shows that the liberation Donbas must be followed by much more comprehensive action over the whole territory.
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/uncle-sams-bio-weapons-extravaganza/
A study of the documents in the part of the P-781 project on the study of ways of transmitting diseases to humans through bats showed that the work was carried out on the basis of a laboratory in Kharkov.” (“Russia Mod: Briefing on analysis of documents related to US military and biological activities in Ukraine,“ The Saker)
“Within the framework of the FLU-FLYWAY project, the Kharkov Institute of Veterinary Medicine studied wild birds as vectors for the spread of highly pathogenic avian influenza. At the same time, the conditions under which spread processes can become unmanageable, cause economic damage and pose risks to food security have been assessed.
These documents confirm the involvement of the Kharkov Institute in the collection of avian influenza virus strains with high epidemic potential and capable of overcoming the interspecific barrier….” (“Russia Mod: Briefing on analysis of documents related to US military and biological activities in Ukraine”, The Saker)
“The materials that our Defense Ministry got hold of prove that all serious high-risk research in Ukrainian biolabs was directly supervised by US experts… Our Defense Ministry reports that at this moment the Kiev regime…. hastily covers up all traces so that the Russian side could not get hold of direct evidence of the US and Ukraine violating Article 1 of the BTWC. They rush to shut down all biological programs.
Ukraine’s Health Ministry ordered to eliminate biological agents deposited in biolabs starting from 24 February 2022. We infer from the instructions to lab personnel that the order of elimination of collections suggested that they should be destroyed irrevocably. Having analyzed the destruction certificates, we can say that the Lvov lab alone destroyed 232 containers with pathogens of leptospirosis, 30 – of tularemia, 10 – of brucellosis, 5 – of plague. The total of more than 320 containers was eliminated. Pathogens’ titles and excessive amounts give reason to think that this work was done as part of military biological programs.” (“USNC biolabs in the Ukraine”, The Saker)
I am not suggesting that Pres. Putin should have said any of this to the Portuguese clerk of the UN who came mainly to beg for the multinational Azovstal killers to be labeled “civilians” and released; it would have been “off topic.”
I am not even suggesting that Russia should publicly announce such a change of plans (ie, to expand the special operation to the entire territory of Ukraine), except at a time of its choosing. I am, however, hoping that such a change of plans has already been decided upon. Any surgeon knows that the solution to a necrotizing, gangrenous arm is no to cut off one finger.
Guterres is, do not forget, only a secretary, as in Take a letter Miss Brown.
Russia is a UN founding member, UNSC permanent seat, as in equal to all other founding members, no exception, on the Board.
I don’t believe anyone is unaware of what he is, including Gutterez himself. The UN functions like Fawlty Towers but without any of the humor.
John Cleese said the Fawlty Towers waiter Manuel was actually Portuguese, even when he said I’m from Barcelona.
Dear Joe, (and I don’t mean Stalin!), Putin is a lawyer and a Christian, and nothing he says here is inconsistent with anything he has said in any other speech. Those that say he is Hitler, or wishes to take over Eastern Europe, or invade Europe, are wrong.
Western puppets and apparatchiks never actually come to a meeting to hold real ‘dialogue’, they come only to bring the ‘orders/directives/demands’ of their masters in Washington and elsewhere.
Has anyone noticed that 3000 Turkish Grey Wolves extremists have already turned up in Kharkiv?
There is no way Erdogan does not know.
The West is led by a gang of individuals who CANNOT IMAGINE LOSING. They simply can’t, and here is why:
https://pathwhisperer.info/2015/02/01/psychopaths-brains-dont-grasp-punishment-scans-reveal/
Therefore, in dealing with them, Russia or anyone else should give up trying to explain to them the negative consequences of their actions, but simply visit those consequences upon them. Including pre-emptively.
That is a modern name for an ancient malady.
That is why separation of powers, as first ever in the US Constitution, is critical.
One could call this clause a Frontal Lobotomy, likely the only treatment for psychopaths.
Normal people have no problem with separation of powers, psychopaths fear it alone.
A viagem a Moskva pelo António Guterres é apenas para safar a pele aos agentes dos serviços especiais da Otan. Os civis servem para escudos humanos e, não interessam aos senhores da ONU-aliás, uma cambada de inúteis.
Imagino a categoria desses peixes para que o mordomo da ONU se prestasse a ir à Rússia. O resto é conversa !
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António Guterres’ trip to Moskva is just to save the skin of NATO’s special services agents. Civilians serve as human shields, and are of no interest to the masters of the UN-after all, a useless bunch.
I can only guess at the rank of these fishes so that the UN butler would lend himself to going to Russia. The rest is just talk!
Here is legal analysis by USMC Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter, of UN Article 51 which likely goes way over secretary Guterres’ pay grade.
Russia, Ukraine & the Law of War: Crime of Aggression
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/29/russia-ukraine-the-law-of-war-crime-of-aggression/
President Putin explicitly invoked Article 51. As did the US in many wars before, with no evidence. Russia has now the evidence of written orders of the UAF to assault Donbass, which it pre-empted.
Legal precedent is demonstrated with examples.
The argument is that the United Nations Charter was clearly breached not only in Kosovo in 1999 but also the entire break up of Yugoslavia where NATO acted unilaterally at times in direct conflict with United Nations forces. During Operation Storm in 1994, the Croatian army was armed and trained by NATO. NATO provided air and logistic support and the Serbian Krajina Republic was forced to retreat as Milosevic already was held back by US envoy Holbrook and the US. The NATO backed Croatian army broke through United Nations lines even killing Canadian peacekeepers. Where was the world outrage? Where was Boutros Ghali and the United Nations? Is it not a war crime to kill United Nations armed forces and break the negotiated peace lines?
What Putin refers to is the International Criminal Court or ICC which recognized that Kosovo is independent in 2004. ICC was only an advisory legal decision , it was not binding. Further, the ICC is not recognized by the United States who was not party to the Rome statute. Regardless, a legal precedent was set as over 100 countries decided to recognize the Independence of Kosovo while the rest did not. Yes, the United Nations still does not recognize Kosovo only because of Russia membership at the UN Security Council blocking the US and EU countries. There are also four EU members which do not recognize Kosovo independence, Slovakia, Greece, Spain and Romania.
The point of the matter is that the United Nations Charter destruction began at the civil war of Yugoslavia in 1992 where through the actions of primarily US and Germany the new nations of Croatia, Slovenia, Northern Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina were created while the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia was breached, one of the founding members of the United Nations.
The point of the matter is that the United Nations is dead and gone just like it predecessor the league of Nations. The world is now governed by the law of jungle.
That’s also my own feeling. A new UN needs to emerge and it should be located in a small peaceful country away from Europe and the US.
Thanks for the summary. I wouldn’t say “jungle” this is what they called “civilization”.
I see Guterres got the “extra long table” treatment…
The room acoustics must be a wonder. Has anyone a video link?
At one time in west gentlemen were expected to know how to fight. https://www.nps.gov/goga/learn/historyculture/broderick-terry-duel.htm is an example. VVP is such a gentleman. Can we name such a gentleman in west today? (recall VVP facing crowd in front of Russian property in DDR, with only a pistol, is there a single pol in AZE with huevos?
What we see is, in part, brigands and cowards (“we lie cheat and steal” (and deal drugs and make germs)) posing as gentlemen, and attempting to use “fodder units” against the a genuine gentleman and a classical civilization.
corruption vs virtue…
Putin just exposed the west’s hypocrisy and the uselessness of UN. Putin made them taste own medicine ”they did it in kosovo, so we are doing it in Eastern southern ukraine”.
I am sure that President Putin is well aware of both the level of intelligence and morality of Antonio Guterres. I would be surprised if Guterres even comprehends the majority of what President Putin is talking about. The President stated that the U.N. is essentially the best that humanity has come up with at this time as far it’s attempt to solve international agreements and so however corrupt it has clearly proven itself to be he is using this forum to state the simple truth and demonstrate the morality which literally no other leader appears able to demonstrate. He is laying the groundwork for humanity going forward. He used the word simple a few times. The truth is simple. The actions of the Russian army and it’s intentions and rationale have been cleariy stated and simple. Right from wrong is simple. As in let the human shields go. Today this is all a complex mystery to the Empire of Lies. My Father was an air ace in WW11. He had 3 distinguished flying crosses and 6 air medals. You would never hear it from him. My Mother told us, with pride. He was a man of humility and integrity. He was what America once stood for in the minds of some of us old enough to remember.
Cynthia, your comment is a sunshine in my heart. Brief and simple and in blessed loyality
to the layer of the groundwork.
I pray for a lot of anonymous Cynthia-souls among us.
There were over 500 US American Airmen saved on the grounds of the former Yugoslavia led by Draza Mihailovic who was executed by a Communist Show trial in Belgrade after WWII. It was the lifelong mission of Richard L. Felman, U.S.A.F and Halward mission survivor to clear the Serbian name. Americans were always held in the highest esteem in the former Yugoslavia but what NATO and the US did in the name of Americans will never be forgotten. Serbian peasants gave up their beds and lives to save US American airmen during WWII. I am sure you father had the same honor and humility Richard L Felman showed during his life.
http://www.generalmihailovich.com/2007/11/richard-l-felman.html
A message on telegram claims to reveal the location of a number of shelters below the Azovstal plant. Two, 18207 and 18170, are supposedly holding civilians. A third, 18182, holds the bulk of the Azov fighters. The civilian shelters are furthest away from the nearby civilian housing, with the Azov unit between the civilian shelters and the housing. This strongly suggests the civilians are held against their will as they would have to pass through the Azov shelter in order to escape.
https://t.me/rustroyka1945/1840
Mr. Putin. Please stop wasting your time with any U.N. official. They are nothing but tools of
Uncle $hmuel, who puts up most of the funding for the entire organization. When does the
U.N ever go against anything Uncle $hmuel wants to do?
US, NATO and West should take seriously what Vladimir Putin has said today and come to their senses. We can only hope that the psychopaths in the West realizes this sooner.
Speaking to lawmakers, Putin said that “If anyone sets out to intervene in the current events from the outside and creates unacceptable threats for us that are strategic in nature, they should know that our response… will be lightning-fast. We have all the tools for this, that no one else can boast of having. We won’t boast about it: we’ll use them, if needed. And I want everyone to know that. We have already taken all the decisions on this.”
Another impressive performance by President Putin. I’m struggling to think of any Western leaders during my lifetime that could measure up to him. Charles de Gaulle perhaps, or Willy Brandt possibly; very thin pickings otherwise.
You have to give Charles de Gaulle ‘props’ for demanding France’s gold back from the yanks once he realized they were ripping everyone off by printing more dollars than they had gold cover for. That was what eventually led to the yanks ‘closing the gold window’ – i.e. openly admitting that they had ripped everyone else off. Unfortunately no-one else had the balls to call them out on it. Instead they just rolled over and accepted it.
Yes, the gold issue was one of the things I had in mind, plus, if I’m not mistaken, he was instrumental in keeping France’s nuclear ‘force de frappe’ out of the direct grip of NATO.
My original post though was inspired by my comparison of Vladimir Putin’s statesmanship with the Western political featherweights who proclaim themselves to be “leaders of the Free World™”. I feel pretty certain that if de Gaulle and Brandt were in charge of their present-day countries we would not be in this current mess…
Thank you for all these posts.
“…but this was really an anti-constitutional coup.”
Depending on the listener, here it can be like a must to pause and look at the listener maybe for a couple of seconds, because there’s a mental block wherefore they can’t think it. Maybe a good five minutes to explaining why it’s a coup and why it’s not a good coup would be advantageous.
“I would like to inform you that although the military operation is underway, we are still hoping to reach an agreement on the diplomatic track. We are conducting talks. We have not abandoned them.”
I don’t know about that because it’s a first. Keeping both tracks? This sounds more like KGB agent than president. Why not “…hoping that they surrender once and for all to avoid deaths, but as time goes on the surrender conditions naturally become more stringent – can you help…”? More adjectives can be used against Clausewitz’s war and politics doctrine now turned into a modus operandi!
“Moreover, at the talks in Istanbul […] we managed to make an impressive breakthrough…”
This was before Bucha and Zelensky’s 60 Minutes Interview, etc. There was no breakthrough like that! Maybe Zelensky became emboldened, rather, since much bad happened afterwards, and Ze’s ‘talk’ did not reflect any such breakthrough.
“But, unfortunately, after reaching these agreements and after we had, in my opinion, clearly demonstrated our intentions to create the conditions for continuing the talks, we faced a provocation in the town of Bucha, which the Russian Army had nothing to do with. We know who was responsible, who prepared this provocation, using what means, and we know who the people involved were.”
This is again the ambivalence that tends to create more bad (confusion) than good. It leads to the strange paths you can see in the quote. The last sentence is not referring to Zelensky. We don’t know to whom it refers but it’s not to Zelensky. I think this is obvious from the text, but it is also clear because the negotiations continue with Zelensky, which means then that the people “responsible”, “who prepared this provocation”, “…using what means…”, “who the people involved were” are people other than Zelensky and his people (with whom negotiations will continue no matter what). There’s a bias because since negotiations will continue with Zelensky no matter what, than it’s easier if he is exculpated from atrocities. According to Putin here, something like dark forces (maybe the U.S. in his mind) interfered with the good-faith agreements that were almost finalized with Zelensky, as if it were a matter of letting Zelensky be Zelensky. (Naturally, he has no criticism of Zelensky.)
Conclusion on this: Putin is isolated in the sense that this must be all from him (or most likely). It shows a disadvantage of not having more collaboration. I don’t know the reason, if it’s his personality, or if he doesn’t trust his advisers. This type of thinking is not a typical outcome of a meeting with many critical opinions where finally this is the consensus; it’s more like one man acting alone. None of this means that the SMO will not achieve its military objectives or that Putin is a “softie” in his negotiations track. He looks like a Bear to me, just a bear on the prowl.
These two paragraphs below were the most informative facts and the strongest to me:
“To our regret, during the past eight years the people that lived there found themselves under a siege. The Kiev authorities announced in public that they were organising a siege of these territories. They were not embarrassed to call it a siege although initially they had renounced this idea and continued military pressure.
Under the circumstances, after the authorities in Kiev actually went on record as saying – I would like to emphasise that the top state officials announced this in public – that they did not intend to fulfil the Minsk Agreements, we were compelled to recognise these regions as independent and sovereign states to prevent the genocide of the people living there. I would like to reiterate: this was a forced measure to stop the suffering of the people living in those territories.”
Wandering where UN Government were when US and NATO war criminals bombed Yugoslavia ? What about Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, ect . Suddenly they’re so worry about Ukraine. Something important inside these Biolabs and AzovStal tunnels.
“I remember very well the decision by the International Court, which states that when fulfilling its right to self-determination a territory within any state does not have to seek permission from the country’s central government in order to proclaim its sovereignty.”
Putin jujitsu. Hang the hypocites with their own rope.
It is very sad that the USA/Five Eyes/EU are so vested in their military industrial spending. This distortion is preventing all hope of peaceful settlement.
I’ve been thinking about how a peace settlement might occur, and it simply cannot occur unless the USA/Five Eyes/EU are willing to bend but not break.
While it is true that many of us would like to see this group of countries break, such an occurrence would likely result in more danger than less. But this group of countries could:
1) Pressure their Ukrainian puppet to come to terms with Russia
2) Stop supporting Ukraine with weapons and satellite and other surveillance methods. Plus, terminated all training and NATO support for Ukraine.
3) Agree to negotiate over security concerns and recognize Russia’s legitimate interests
4) Terminate all sanctions (which are backfiring on Western economies)
5) Restore diplomatic relations in total
6) Negotiate in good faith arms agreements with Russia. To this point, I was appalled that Trump wanted to include China in any arms agreement with Russia. Yet the UK, France and Israel were never mentioned in the corporate media or by Trump. I would think that any agreement would start via one on one negotiations with Russia. Then once that was reached, other countries would be invited to join.
Alas, I must be dreaming….
WW3 is coming. I think they want to expand the conflict to other places right now to open more fronts for Russia.
I think that you are wrong. The facts speak for themselves in America’s history of wars. They say they never loose, but what have they won?
America under Jewish control, would have loved if America would destroy Iran and that was when all the gulf states were fully under the control of Zion USA. Iran is prepared to loose millions of people, but how much are you prepared to loose?
Russia has the best weapons and military in the world, and China is probably the second with millions of Chinese to be mobilized,in a moment’s notice.
The thieving of Russia’s offshore wealth, just like Afghanistan and so many more, plus sanctions are not working. The re- supplies of armaments is not going to work. America is controlled by ignorant/ stupid people, and they just might ignore Putin’s words.
Gutteres came to Russia to get the foreigners out of the Avostal plant.
The saddest, sickest part is that western leaders desire to bring on war to depopulate their own countries. So that leaves Russia (and China) in the position of deciding how many of us little western people they desire to kill of to make our sick leaders desist in their destructive, failing, fantasy-based politics. This generation of western leaders, this cabal of satanists, will be responsible for the decimation (genocide) of European-based (i.e., ‘white’) peoples via experimental toxic injections, war and manufactured food scarcity (see all the food processing plants and fertilizer plants around the world that have just been leaders and pharmaceuticals (i.e., India supreme court finding Bill Gates and his vaccines guilty of crimes against humanity with death and disease caused by his jabs) and have rejected receiving the toxic experimental covid injections, leaving the western world with the highest count of people receiving these jabs and accordingly, the highest numbers of deaths and disease from these toxic jabs. Mind you, white people only make up some 6% of the world’s population. These few whites create the world’s best civilizations. These few whites are now currently being killed off by our very own globalist leaders.
The neocons and the neoliberal jackals of the collective west must truly hate to deal with man ! They come at him from every angle and there he his larger than life , teaching them a lesson that was a long time coming!
Freemason Antonio Guterres went to Russia to be slapped by Putin, because he too is a puppet of the Rothschilds, who make their henchmen do the most absurd and humiliating things. I don’t think he liked the slaps, but no one forced him to be secretary of that haunt of Freemasons that is the United Nations. Or maybe yes.
I like your comment. Puppet of them? Maybe you’re right, but there are people who have views that you would think they’re puppets for having them, but they are not! Putin here:
“I am sure we will find the same idea in both the Quran and the Torah. All people are equal before God. So, the idea that someone can claim a kind of exceptional status is very strange to us.”
The Rothschilds likes this statement, right? Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin doesn’t care to remember that the Torah has a chosen people and that it is definitely anti-gentile. In the Book of Acts, Peter even recounts something like, “You know we are forbidden from approaching you (Gentiles).” But he is not their puppet.
President Putin is always so calm. Always speaking with such common sense. I would be pulling my hair out if I had to deal with the infernal crazies/ idiots of the West. God bless him! and give him a long healthy life.
Let’s see what Bulgaria and Poland manage to do with the refusal of Russian gas. Will they eventually act on behalf of the wellbeing of their own people, heritage and country or will they betray them all to stupidly defy Russia, and for what? Russia only wants to have non-hostile actors around their borders. As the U.S. should fully understand after the Bay of Pigs affair. Imagine Russia claiming Texas or Mexico as a place they want to have bioweapon labs, nukes and hostile relations. Given how crazy things have gotten, why can’t Russia re-claim Alaska? But will the US/west ever appreciate how non-aggressive Russia is? No. They cannot stop mirroring or projecting their own sick plans and behaviors onto Russia. Whatever happens, God sees all.