https://russiaun.ru/en/news/pressconf_040422
4 April 2022
Vassily Nebenzia: These are unprecedented times, as you know. What is also unprecedented is what happened yesterday and earlier today. It was unprecedented, unbelievable, and unthinkable. We were denied a Security Council meeting that we requested today from the British Presidency. During my time here, I had emergency meetings of the Security Council on many issues that happened on weekends, on US holidays, etc, and we never objected. What happened is something unbelievable and unprecedented in the history of the United Nations. That is a fact.
I heard today’s press conference by Ambassador Barbara Woodward. I heard questions that she was asked, and I heard answers that she gave. Frankly, some of the answers she was just not able to give. Before we have a meeting tomorrow, I would like to tell you of a few things which it is very important to get through to you – press and media. It is about what has happened recently and is happening now around Kiev.
On April 4 the Kiev regime with an active support from its Western sponsors started to promote in Western mass media fake news about alleged “atrocities” of the Russian military forces in the town of Bucha (a suburb of Kiev) in Ukraine.
From the very beginning it has been clear that this is nothing else but yet another staged provocation aimed at discrediting and dehumanizing of the Russian military and levelling political pressure on Russia. Not many of you know about the Russian military, but I assure you that Russian military is nothing that it is being accused of, in particular what regards “cruel atrocities” against civil population. It is not the case. It never was, and will never be.
We have factual evidence that proves this point. We intended to present it to the Security Council as soon as possible so that the international community is not misled by the false narrative promoted by Kiev and its Western sponsors.
To this end, the Russian Federation requested a Security Council meeting to be convened at 3 pm New York Time today on April 4 to discuss this heinous provocation by the Kiev regime.
I would like to emphasize that we did it as early as on 2.51 pm on Sunday, full 24 hours before the requested meeting, so the UK claims that we asked for a meeting “too late” are misinformation.
Our efforts have been met with the fierce opposition of the UK Presidency with the support of other Western delegations, namely the US, France, Ireland, Norway and Albania.
They tried to invent an invalid and lame pretext not to convene this meeting on Monday insisting that it should be postponed to Tuesday.
The UK Ambassador keeps claiming, and you could hear that at her press conference earlier today, that they wanted to have a more “informed” meeting with the UN Secretariat as a briefer. This is a lie. We have never objected to having a briefer on Monday, and it is the obligation of the Presidency to arrange for that. We did not request a briefer from our side. During the Russian Presidency, we duly arranged for such meetings at the request of the Western delegations, in the middle of the day or night, regardless of the complex geopolitical context and constant provocations vis-à-vis our country.
I would like to stress: the UK Presidency openly rejected our request to convene a meeting on April 4. And they did it twice. Since the situation around Bucha kept evolving overnight, today we requested an urgent Council meeting at 3 pm.
However, the Presidency took the liberty to qualify that there is no reason to convey an emergency meeting. As they put it, the UK does not believe that the situation in Bucha is calling for immediate attention of the Security Council.
This is a unilateral assertion of the UK Presidency, not a decision of the Council members. You can see clearly now what a “rules-based order” promoted by the UK and other Western countries means in real life. It means them imposing rules that are comfortable to them with total disregard for the international law and the established UNSC rules of procedure.
This behavior is very illustrative and reveals true attitude of the West to the Ukrainian people. While blocking the discussion on Bucha, where we see a clear-cut provocation in classical Goebbels’s style, risking to have serious implications for the international peace and security, the Western delegations rushed to convene a Security Council meeting on the education for girls in Afghanistan some time ago. You can see what their real priorities are.
The reason why the Western delegations do this is very simple. It would not benefit Western cause if the Security Council meeting was convened by Russia, because this would shake the anti-Russian narrative that they are comfortably promoting. The Western delegations prefer to “blend in” the situation in Bucha with the discussion of the humanitarian situation at the meeting they convene tomorrow, to shift the focus away from the staged provocation by the Kiev regime. To this end, the UK by its own discretion added our agenda item to tomorrow’s briefing. We have never approved that. It is yet another illustration of their behavior.
I would like to recall Rule 2 of the Provisional rules of Procedure of the Security Council. It is explicit that the Presidency should call for a meeting at the request of any member of the Security Council.
What we see now is a shameful and unprecedented abuse by the UK of the President’s prerogatives. At the same time, this is a demonstration of weakness showing that the Western delegations had to resort to this maneuvering to shut Russia’s voice. It only proves the point that Western delegations care neither about the real situation in Bucha, nor about the Council authority.
Abusive, condescendent, colonialistic line of the UK Presidency is undermining the very foundations of the UN, and we will yet have to assess the implications.
The Presidency is entrusted by the Charter to lead the Security Council. The UK failed to lead. It is a disgrace for the British diplomacy and an undeniable stain on its reputation.
Given negligence of the UK Presidency, we decided to convene this press conference to shed light on the Western-backed provocation of the Kiev regime in Bucha.
I would like to present to you the real facts about Bucha.
During the time that the town has been under the control of the Russian armed forces, not a single local resident has suffered from any violent action.
For as long as the town was under the control of the Russian armed forces locals were moving freely around the town and using cellular phones. So they could post on social media any photo and video footage of any theoretical “harassment” if this were the case. However, that did not happen.
Let me address the developments in chronological order.
On March 30, following another round of talks in Ankara, Russian Ministry of Defense announced the withdrawal of forces from a number of regions, including Bucha.
That fact was confirmed the next day by the mayor of Bucha. In his video of March 31 Anatoly Fedoruk presented the withdrawal of Russian forces as a victory of Ukrainian Army. Interestingly, he had not mentioned any mass atrocities, dead bodies, killings, graves or anything like that. It is hard to imagine that a city mayor can “forget” to address such a devastating scenario.
Let me show you the video posted by Mr. Fedoruk. As you will see, he looks happy and smiling. It is hard to imagine that he is acting like this against the backdrop of “massacre” in the streets. That’s in Ukrainian, but as I said, he is very happy that Russian troops withdrew, which he regards as a great victory of the Ukrainian army. He makes no mentioning of any atrocities in the city.
This video was posted on “Ukraine 24” channel on the 1st of April. I would like to stress – nothing about “atrocities” was revealed on April 1st.
Let me also show a photo of Zhan Belenyuk, a deputy of the Ukrainian parliament, who, according to his reports in social media, visited Bucha after regaining control by the Ukrainian government. As you can see, he is also smiling. He is joyful. In his reports he mentions no dead bodies. Not a single reference to “atrocities”.
On April 2nd the National Guard of Ukraine posted on official resources a video from Bucha. Let me show you the footage. The video captures members of Ukrainian armed forces entering Bucha. The footage shows no dead bodies in the streets. The Ukrainian military interviewed several people in different locations across the town. None of them said a word about any “massacre” or mass killings. Camera also captures background behind these people, with no dead bodies in sight.
To sum it up, there are no reports of atrocities which are accredited to the Russian military in Bucha, which happened before the Ukrainian army took control of the town. Four days after the Russian military left the city of Bucha there was not a single sign of any “atrocities”. I repeat – not a single reference to it, anywhere.
The infamous video depicting bodies on the city roads only appeared on April 3rd. It is full of discrepancies and blatant lies. According to its authors, the bodies were lying on the streets for at least 4 days by the time the video was filmed. However, the bodies are not stiffened. How is that possible? It is against the law of biology. The bodies do not have signs of decomposition known to forensic experts, including cadaver stains. The wounds contain no blood.
Another point illustrating that this video is fake.
The Ukrainian forces use either blue or yellow armlets or stripes. Because members of Ukrainian militia do not always wear military uniforms, local civilians in Bucha wore white stripes on their upper arms when the Russian forces were stationed in Bucha. That was done to prevent misidentification of civilians from members of militia. When the Ukrainian forces entered the town, they fired at the people with white stripes, killing the civilians. There is a video showing a conversation between members of Ukrainian units. It was published in social media by the so-called “territorial defense” – a radical nationalist fighting group. One of the radicals asks if he can shoot at the people without blue stripes. The other confirms that this is permissible.
Russian speakers know that, but let me translate for the rest of you:
Question behind the scene – «There are folks without blue bands, can I shoot them?»
Answer: «Of course».
I hope the evidence we demonstrated today leaves you with no illusion that the video circulated by the Kiev regime is a crude forgery. It does not stand any scrutiny. However, some Western leaders, for example German Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel Macron, and of course British Foreign Minister Liz Truss have already lined up to promote this false narrative.
What happened in Bucha is exactly a false flag attack by the Kiev regime and its Western sponsors. The possible goal of this provocation is horrifying and brings back the nightmares of the Nazi crimes during the Second World War.
Vladimir Zelensky, once he arrived in Bucha, hinted that this “incident” justifies any “uncivilized response”. By this basically he confirmed that the Kiev regime considers genocide as a method of warfare. Now the nationalists have a pretext to commit a real massacre of innocent Ukrainian people executing them as “traitors”. We want the world to stay alert and we call on the Council not to let these horrific cleansing to happen.
To conclude I would like to reiterate that the Russian military forces act in strict compliance with international humanitarian law and do not target civilians and civilian objects. If we were pursuing aggressive goals, like those of the US-led coalition in Iraq, the scale of losses and devastation would be worse by digits. Like in Raqqa and Mosul that were bombed by the US to ashes, killing thousands of civilians, including women and children, whose bodies were left unburied for weeks and even months.
You will hear more from me tomorrow, because more information is coming. I think that the truth about what happened in Bucha will reveal itself very soon.
Q: A Security Council meeting did not take place because Great Britain said no. The United States intends to pursue Russia’s suspension from the UN Human Rights Council. Do you think these actions can undermine the negotiations efforts for a humanitarian ceasefire? What are the next steps you are planning here at the UN?
A: Of course, Human Rights Council is not our piece of cake, so to say. We are in another format. But I think that this is again unbelievable what the West and the rest are trying to do with Russia today, trying to exclude it from whatever multilateral forums we have in the world.
So in response to what you are saying, I think yes they can. This is, again, unprecedented. And this will not facilitate, encourage or be helpful for what is happening at Russian-Ukrainian peace talks.
Q: On the other side, the Ukrainians have presented footage of people who have said that their loved ones have been killed by Russian troops – civilians not doing anything. As for the footage that’s been shown. We’ve seen a little bit that you’ve shown, but do you consider that the statements of these women and family members who’ve watched their own loved ones being killed by Russian troops are fake?
A: This is a warfare. And in warfare, anything happens. You cannot exclude that civilians may die. That is a sad fact of life. But the footage that we are being presented with, in particular in Bucha, of which I spoke, does not give us any doubt that it was staged. We will present more evidence on that tomorrow when we speak in the Security Council.
Q: I’d like to ask you one follow-up question. Ukrainian Prosecutor General Irina Venedictova today told Ukrainian television that the situation in a town called Borodyanka may be worse than Bucha in terms of people who have been found killed. That town was also occupied by Russian forces until recently. Do you know anything about that?
A: Frankly, no. I just hear from you as you speak.
Q: My question is about Bucha. There are pictures. There’s eyewitness evidence. What are you saying about how this happened? And you did show us pictures of two pregnant women who were fake photos, and we saw one of them give birth and we saw the other one die. Do you believe that the pictures and the story you’re getting right now and telling us are true about Bucha?
A: I just saw a footage today on the Russian television of the lady that gave birth in Mariupol. She admitted that it had been a fake. She’s an Ukrainian blogger named Mariana. She admitted that it was a fake, that she was made to make that footage.
Now, to what you see in the streets of Bucha. The corpses had never existed before the departure of Russian troops, and then suddenly appeared in the streets, lying on the road one by one, right and left. If you look carefully, you will see that some of them are moving. Some of them are showing signs of life. You cannot escape from an understanding that this is staged, that it is a fake and a provocation. Because, as you all know, besides the warfare, we have a raging information war. And we have evidence that it was premeditated and arranged by the Ukrainian information warfare machine.
Q: Therefore, you’re blaming the Ukrainians for actually putting these bodies there?
A: One thing you cannot deny is that Ukrainians are using people as a human shield when they hide behind them in residential buildings, which they use to call fire on themselves.
Q: The second woman who was pregnant, by the way, did die.
A: If that is the case, I’m sorry for her. I really am. You may believe me.
Q: But part of the question is then the bigger picture. Martin Griffith just came from Moscow. Is there any possibility of a ceasefire?
A: And the question is, from which hands she died. They claimed that it was a Russian airstrike, while the evidence shows that the building had not had an air strike, but rather an explosion.
On Martin Griffiths and the resolution. We offered a resolution last week, which they rejected. They said no because “Russia as an aggressor” cannot offer anything. We are trying to get people out of cities and provide them with free evacuation, which they also deny. They say “no, Ukrainians can only leave to the West, they cannot live to Russia, they have no right to do so”. They say so despite the fact that half a million Ukrainians are already in Russia. And believe me, there is no xenophobia to Ukrainians in Russia. There has never been any, despite what is happening with Russians around the globe today. I’m grateful to the Americans that they are not up to that. But look at what is happening in Europe, at how they treat Russians only because they have Russian passports. That is incredible. That is unbelievable. I leave aside the issue of sanctions, which are beyond any understanding, but the way they are treating Russians in Europe is something that goes beyond any understanding.
Q: Would Russia, for example, welcome an independent investigation? You talk about the misinformation wars, the fog of war. It’s difficult to understand who’s giving you facts and who’s not. Right. So would you agree to an independent mechanism to investigate the atrocities that we both can agree are happening in Ukraine? And then a second part, what is so egregious about the 24 hours delay? To help us understand, this meeting that you requested for today is happening tomorrow. So what is so outrageous about this delay?
A: The question is who is doing the so-called independent investigation. We’ve seen lots of independent investigations which were not independent at all because they were politically motivated, biased, etc.
As for the meeting, their aim and the idea is absolutely clear. They do not want to let us present our views, and want to go ahead with their own interpretation of the situation. But by tomorrow many things may come to surface which they wouldn’t like to hear. So perhaps they lost time when they did not have this meeting today and postponed it until tomorrow.
Not just in my memory here, but in the procedure, tradition, and rules of the Security Council, I cannot recall a case when the Presidency would deny a country a meeting whenever it wants to. If that’s an emergency meeting, the Council should meet in 3 hours after the announcement. I’ve been in this situation many times over myself.
I listened to the briefing today and I heard the question that you asked to [Ambassador] Barbara [Woodward]. She never answered to it. I mean we’ve been accused of atrocities, we are being accused of not observing the rules of warfare, etc, but what did she answer when you asked her about Raqqa and Mosul? She just evaded. She went sideways. Anyway, let’s see what happens tomorrow. Tomorrow you will hear more from us. I promise that I will be even more factual than today.
https://twitter.com/Miguel18011505/status/1510583834173382660
Unconfirmed sources from Russia Military:
The Russian army captured the
U.S Major General Roger L. Cloutier Jr. Maj. Gen. Roger L. Cloutier, the U.S. Africa Command HQ Chief of Staff in the besieged Ukrainian Azov camp in Mariupol 🐠😂,
The Pentagon wanted to contact Putin, (1/x)
and this is the hint from Mr. Nebenzia…
” But by tomorrow many things may come to surface which they wouldn’t like to hear. So perhaps they lost time when they did not have this meeting today and postponed it until tomorrow.”
we’ll wait for the confirmation on the things “they wouldn’t like to hear”.
If thats true for gods sake don’t do some deal with the Americans,expose him.
Il faut leur répondre. Désolé, on la violé et il n’est plus en état ce que nous confirme nos satellites… :)
Ostro…Perhaps, the Chechnian’s can “persuade” the good General to enlighten us as to his recent exploits…He’s clearly “Off-Sides” in this covert game, and not quite a legitimate P.O.W. going by the rules of engagement…
Z for Victory!
looks like it is true…Veterans Today(USA)……confirmed
It looks like the guy was in Izmir (Turkey) yesterday.
And Macron did contact Putin, because of General Eric Vidaud
https://www.voltairenet.org/article216358.html
Russia needs to go on the offensive against this sort of propaganda. They should start with the questions and take the accusations as being false as a given. The press briefing should open with questions such as:
Why is Kiev choosing this moment to launch this propaganda action??
Why are they producing these photos on April 3 when it is well known we left on March 30?
Most of this briefing is defensive and lays out a detailed and rational explanation of why the accusations are false. However this puts Russia in a defensive position against a fake accusation.
When you’re being falsely accused, it’s better as a strategy to not respond initially to the content of the accusation but to simply question the accusation itself. Responding to the content of the accusation only directs attention to the accusation.
I don’t think if you can go to effective anti-fake offensive, when you have so many brain dead people in EU. That censorship of Russian media was preemptive PSYOP strike. But some wise man said that empty stomach makes people more clever thinking. I don’t see any other cure.
Russia should focus with anti-fake campaign on Asia, Africa, Middle East and South Africa.
“Russia should focus with anti-fake campaign on Asia, Africa, Middle East and South Africa.”
They have the benefits of their agents acting on their behalf world-wide.
Their present “agents of influence” are branded as “The United States of America” and “NATO”.
“I don’t think if you can go to effective anti-fake offensive, when you have so many brain dead people in EU.”
You are being tardy – that was established by some in 1969 the updated version is to be found in this portal in various places under the title “The Jaw dropping power of US propaganda”.
“Russia should focus with anti-fake campaign on Asia, Africa, Middle East and South Africa.”
Not to worry, we already know.
Tend to agree with your most of your views. Russia should have denied the accusations and responded by accusing Ukraine of the crime and that they have evidence to the contrary with additional evidence that Russian POW are being tortured and murdered but unfortunately a hearing it is being rejected at the UNSC by the current English presidency.
Russia needs to get out of this mind frame of feeling sorry for itself and learn to say NO, toughen up their resolutions and start making demands and if not satisfied then retalliate.
Russia needs to put the Ukrainian politicians in power on notice that if they get caught then they will face a war crime tribunal in Russia.
They did so. But Russia is partly binded and cannot claim the whole truth, e.g. that Kiev summarely executed those so-called collaborators because it would be an admission that they failed to anticipate this scenario when they retreated from the city and neglected to take with them those who sided with Russia, even in a minor way. This would send the wrong message to potential supporters in other cities.
The problem is the west already accepts the Ukrainian narrative with no verification. So whatever Ukraine claims is immediately accepted. How do you defend against that? There is no defense.
New media has established that the civvies were likely murdered by the Kiev military units who arrived the day before the massacre. New Media has a readership many times greater than Old Media these days.
This is critical. Too many times i see people on this blog assume that legacy media is mainstream. It is not. The “mainstream” no longer watches this shit. Legacy media is now fringe, and alt media is the new mainstream.
Yet for some perverted reason, it’s folk like us who still give them a voice by pretending they’re important.
Remember: The goal of propaganda is not to make everyone believe the bullshit. Instead the goal of propaganda is to make everyone believe they’re alone and marginalized. In most tyrannies in the past, including the Soviet Union, the majority of people knew the propaganda was bull, only a minority took the cool aid. Yet everyone assumed if he stood up he would be alone. Divide and conquer.
Legacy media is now fringe. A strongly boosted fringe
not so much “fringe” but – in the west at least – mostly viewed by boomers and older gen-x types. sadly they tend to show up at the polls in huge numbers so they’re a useful “target audience”. plus there’s the added bonus of decades of cold war nonsense still burned into their brains. “russiagate” was just the gen x/millennial reboot of all that.
iirc almost all cnn and msnbc viewers are over 40. greenwald points this stuff out on his twitter regularly.
****The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces.***
https://www.sott.net/article/466350-Special-Forces-Regiment-SAFARI-Begins-Clearing-Operation-in-Bucha-from-Saboteurs-and-Accomplices-of-Russia-National-Police
Comment: This report was published April 2, a day prior to the reports of a “massacre” in Bucha.
Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region, which has been liberated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. ****The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces.***
This has been reported by the National Police.
The US, Ukraine is like the story Dorian Grey. The US projects itself as a democracy and freedom loving. Ukraine also, but they are so barbarous and murderous. You can easily see that they are the portrait on the wall to the US being Dorian Grey.
I am really sick from Ukrainians openly torturing on video anyone they get ahold of. These are the fruits from the diplomacy to withdrawal from Kiev. They used this and killed everyone. They already showed Kiev forces using drones and artillery on this town as they were withdrawing. Civilians in the basement had no idea that soon blue band soldiers will be there sorting them out. They are also on tape saying I don’t want to kill. Interesting, a lot of dead bodies had white bands and/or Russian rations and aide near them.
They truly are a hate and lying machine. The fear I have: I notice when diplomats depart, war starts. All of Europe is kicking out a lot of Russian diplomats. US/EU/Ukraine are the most despicable places on earth. Truly they are reasons to lose hope in humanity. And I actually don’t want to feel that way, that’s what is so depressing. Masks are off…
I share your emotions. I think we should make a common front or a club or whatever to give each other affection and complicity. And also to raise our gaze above all this western rot. I think we are going to be surprised to see how many thousands of people have already lowered themselves mentally from the empire of lies.
This group here has a lot of good thinking minds. It is a good place. Faith, Love and family keep me going as I am sure it helps others too. I personally reject all western media like a terrible allergy because of the lies. I traveled back and forth and seen personally, stories the Western media covered that I was witness to, and they lied. Thanks for your reply.
This interview frightens me. It has convinced me that the West wants an actual fighting, shooting, killing war with Russia and will stop at nothing to get it.
Is that what they want? I doubt it!
NATO is taking a beating on the battlefield and their only success is the information war, the latest, this false flag. The Biolabs kinda took the shine off their propaganda blitz.
The US are watching 8 good years and more off economic and geopolitical investment in Ukraine go up in smoke in several weeks. They were ready to press the buzzer, give the green light to a Donbass/Crimea full frontal attack which Russia managed put-down, destroying all existing NATO permanent assets in the country and 75% 0f Ukraine’s war arsenal within the 1st 72 hours.
I see NO enthusiasm anywhere in the EU except maybe bravado from Poland which would receive the brunt of any NATO attempt to send any meaningful arms to Ukraine. Boots on the ground is unthinkable, even for the psychopaths in America.
Therefore, the purpose of this false flag was to reinvigorate their propaganda war for hearts and minds. More people are seeing through their smoke & mirrors.
The US Government, NATO, MSM, The Bankers, all the King’s weapons and all the King’s men will never put Humpty Dumpty’s (Ukraine) head together again.
“Is that what they want? I doubt it!”
The thing is, we are not dealing with rational “people” here. What does “want” mean in the context of demon-possession? I believe it’s not really a matter of what they “want”; rather, it’s a matter of what their purely Satanic agenda requires of them.
Anyway, still there are some cool heads in NATO, and even in the USA, resisting in case of direct passing jets to Ukraine, or sending “peacekeepers” from NATO (instead of UN).
No matter if UNO, western politicians, media henchmen, these patological contortionists can’t help themselves. They are perverted, sick subjects. It is hopeless to have any expectations that any trace of realization will take place in zone A. No, it is absolutely impossible.
Russia must accept that it will have no common ground with these subjects.
There will be no possibility to condemn executions and genocides within the framework of the UN. It all boils down to the fact that the Russian diplomats will absolutely despair and waste their good education in contact with these Low level subjects.
The hegemon has created the figure of Ze and the Proxi war theater, and he will by no means give himself the bare to admit anything. The theatrical play runs completely after the gusto of the hegemon.
I don’t think they want to be with the rest of the world, if they can’t call the shots. It seem they are content with bullying their own population, with whatever means possible.
It will be interesting to watch if they still will promote the myth of democracy.
Non, nos chefs sont faibles car nous ne les aimons pas et ils ne peuvent pas nous mobiliser, leurs propres méthodes se retourneraient contre eux. En revanche, ils peuvent tenter le coup avec avec l’aviation. Camouflez une très bonne défense anti-aérienne, préparez une riposte sévère et appropriée et dès qu’ils sortent le bâton, vous leur mettez un coup de massue humiliant, ce qui compte est “humiliant”… ils ne comprennent que ça mais je crois que vos chefs le savent.
Dear Christophe, can you please do us a translation of your posts to English. Keep the French, but also translate to English. The mods are very busy from time to time, and don’t always have time to copy and paste translations.
Thanks
Saker eliminated anonymous post in Dec 21 … this includes spoofing anonymous (‘anon999’) next post from anon999 will go to trash … mod
Good people who post here. We do live in a post truth world. What does that mean? Most people now get their information from their phone. Their phone, mostly either android or apple, will have observed them, their browsing, shopping, locations, social media, music, movies, and will provide a customised answer to the questions asked of it, tailored to suit. Therefore, if you have a certain world view already, then it will provide information that backs that up, that is the nature of custom adds. Then it arises that two people of differing views can ask their phone the same question and get information to back up the view they hold and they are unable to comprehend whey the other person can disagree with them, after all, they have the correct answer as provided in front of them. If you go to forums, even non-political ones, you cannot have a different opinion either. If you express a novel or in any way radical opinion, they won’t argue with you (they can’t, they can’t accept any different information) they will just mock you and mob you and push you out. There is no genuine exchange of information or opinion, for the sake of contemplation and discussion, rather it is the Anglo-Saxon anger and take a side and choose a war leader and stick by him and he is the best and he will beat up your guy. Where your information comes from is your truth now.
I am a nobody, a fat little old man with no money. Yet through the bizarre circumstances and chances life can bring, I met some very interesting people. Where I come from was a hub for escaping and reintegrating old Germans, you know what I mean. They were nice old gentlemen to meet (you’d never guess who they were and what they had done) and full of interesting stories, and told me back then (early 70s) That they never lost as such and that the EEC would do what the panzer failed to do. They absolutely believed in their own rightness and right to decide for the whole of Europe what should happen.
The Anglo Saxons are despicable (ask the Irish), treacherous (ask the Welsh), deceitful (ask the Indians), low down (ask anyone) and unable to accept any defeat other than death. They would rather be Samson and take it all down than admit they are wrong.
I apologise for using anon name, where I am, it is not too safe to go against the tide. Thank you mods.
For the record I can’t see the practical difference between anon999, daren5 or any of the nomdeplumes used as a matter of course on this site. All of them equally say nothing about the identity of the poster. Personally I can’t understand the fuss.
We do understand the fuss Greg. Not to worry though – this is how we work now.
Who’s we? Those who can’t stand for themselves?
We are the people who work for this site. I would be included. In fact what you are commenting on here, I selected and posted.
Amarynth
Saker Assistant
+ moderators + techs + The Saker + supporters + those who kindly donate to us + independent sites that do translations + a wide swath of this world that support this site the size of which surprises me daily.
One has to be careful before you post smart-ass remarks.
Anyway, let’s close this inquiry down now. You got a problem, go make your own site and you can make different decisions.
What is taken place now is a colossal struggle between the Old Order, represented by the US and its vassals, and Russia and other states like China, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, India etc. that represent the New Multi-polar Order.
And we must bear in mind that for the US, nothing, no act or crime is too extreme for it to perpetrate or influence, in order to maitain the status quo.
As best as possible Russia must cover the conflict zone with its satellites etc. to capture these acts and collect evidence to ensure that its not falsely accused.
Selah
“However, the bodies are not stiffened. How is that possible? It is against the law of biology.”
This is definitely not true.
“Rigor mortis then spreads to the other muscles, including the internal organs, within the next four to six hours. The onset of rigor mortis is affected by the individual’s age, sex, physical condition, and muscular build. Rigor mortis generally peaks at 12 hours, and dissipates after 48 hours.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigor_mortis
May be an error in translation since he didn’t strictly mention Rigor Mortis. Or he may simply not be aware of that fact, he’s clearly not working forensics. Hard to say without the russian version.
He probably means bloating. Depending on the weather, that can occur as soon as 6-7 hours after death.
Maxar civilian satellites are not unbiased nor are those of Google. Look at the board on Maxar and you will see former US generals. We also know of Deep fakes as well .
The evidence leads me to say that Bucha is definitely a mix of fakery and real dead…those of poor Russians or deemed supporters.
What is definitely not fake is the shooting off of Russian penises / knees and the throat – cutting of poor captured Russian paratroops.
Once again the beasts showed their faces. Russia should be already drawing up wanted posters for any men spotted there and gloating. Gold in hand or anywhere you want for dead or alive perps or information that gets them caught or killed by others. You watch people stop committing crimes then .
Oh come on. Give the ambassador a break. He’s a diplomat not a forensic pathologist.
At any rate he could be correct:
‘Typically, the onset of rigor is first observed 2–6 h following death and develops over the first 12 h. The onset begins with the muscles of the face and then spreads to all of the muscles of the body over a period of the next 4–6 h(Gill-King 1996). Rigor typically lasts from 24 to 84 h, after which the muscles begin to once again relax. The onset and duration of rigor mortis is governed by two primary factors: temperature and the metabolic state of the body. Lower ambient temperatures tend to accelerate the onset of rigor and prolong its duration, whereas the opposite is found in warmer temperatures.’
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26318784_Early_postmortem_changes_and_stages_of_decomposition_in_exposed_cadavers_Experimental_and
I believe it’s cold in Kiev at the moment.
It is throwback to MH17. Now, there are coming some phony EU investigators and they will make any claim supporting “NATO cause” despite fact that most of the victims had white elbow bands or boxes of Russian humanitarian aid with five points star. Bodies aren’t even stiff yet. Banderovites did it.
I won’t even focus too much on NYT sattelite photos. I could do better fake by myself than NYT is spreading.
Well,well..do Russia have a sattelite picture of 9/11 ???.IF SO SHOWE IT TO THE WORLD !!!! hunter biden lop top ??????
Russia is currently busy with debunking some other fakes aimed directly at her.
Question, why withdraw captured territory? For what purpose? Something strange is occurring.
By withdrawing, the Russians set the table for this false flag. Notice, you don’t see faces of the presumed dead.
What about Odessa massacre? Where was the “world” condemnation then?
The rush to the outskirts of Kyiv in the first three days of the war was a feint. It was a ruse to “fix” the Ukrainian forces in and near Kyiv so that they would not interfere with the encirclement of the Ukrainian forces in Donbas.
Like all such ruses it is only useful up to the point where the enemy finally notices that they have fallen for a trick and their pants have been pulled down around their ankles. The enemy then pulls up its pants and starts to look around to see where the trickster is.
At that moment the Russians removed their forces around Kyiv, for the simple reason that those forces are no longer serving any useful purpose and may as well be redeployed somewhere else.
Which, indeed, they have done.
“Question, why withdraw captured territory?”
Because Russia doesn’t want to keep Ukraine. But its gonna get stuck with it, because now it has to keep the West from coming in and killing all the Ukrainians and saying “Look, Russia killed them all.”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bskW2Vfnet82/
Is this real? Is the translation ok? What is really going on here please? Thank you all.
Yes, it is real, did not watch it this time, but the translation was OK on the version I`ve seen.
Basically a local azov “commander” smirking in the face of the Commander In Heels, who has no power whatsoever to make him do anything. His orders are from nato.
BTW, all that in Russian. Not one word in the language they call ukranian.
An early important conversation. Jewish Zelensky was elected on a platform to shut down Azov violence. Ukraine is a mafia country run by godfathers. Here Zelensky is attempting to exert authority over an Azov leader, who wants to be listened to. Zelensky tells him to disarm, but does not listen to his concerns. Zelensky has a naturally deep voice, talks tough, and gets in the leader’s face. The news meeting is professionally filmed with two camera angles and a muff on the boom mike; it is real.
The results did not go down well. Azov took it personally, and said they would take Zelensky out if he steps out of line. Later on, they established a working relationship–neither group immediately whacking the other.
More details at:
https://towardfreedom.org/story/archives/europe/how-ukraines-jewish-president-volodymyr-zelensky-made-peace-with-neo-nazi-paramilitaries-on-front-lines-of-war-with-russia/
Ukrainian politics is much more physical, rough & tumble than anyone younger than Al Capone remembers. Here is an amusing video of the Ukrainian Freedom of Speech committee requesting the resignation of the State TV manager, being cancelled for reporting on Russian news:
https://youtu.be/F5GeBpZ5VHY
Credibility is easily lost, and hard to get back.
Reggarding Bucha fakee, EU puppets want to put even more sanctions on themselves. They want to ban coal, fertilizers, access for Russian trucks and ships. Like Tywin Lannister once said -This madness, madness and stupidity!
They want to destroy entire EU under false pretense of fighting with Russia. Now we will see if Orban will keep his promise of blocking stupid samctions, which will cause great harm to Hungary.
The information war is not lost. Here in Québec, Le Journal de Montréal is a popular (working class) daily rag and although their disinformation is cranked to 11 (with front pages plastered with Butcha pictures), their readership isn’t drinking the Kool-Aid! For those reading french, see the most liked _comments_ after the oped
“Ukraine: a barbaric invasion worthy of Stalin”
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/04/04/ukraine-une-invasion-barbare-digne-de-staline
some comments translation:
ReaderA:
The President of the United States is in a bad position to be outraged. Has he forgotten the Hiroshima bomb, the war in Iraq, Afghanistan?
___________
ReaderB:
Mr. Legault also tell us about when the USA illegally attacked Iraq without the consent of the UN… Supposedly Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and a nuclear weapon when he didn’t even have a Rock Puller when they found him in the back of a bunker… As a result more than U. Million dead thousands of children and the structure of a country completely destroyed
___________
ReaderC:
We have no choice, we have to negotiate. Recognize a Russian Crimea and have the Donesk and Lugansk as independent states. If Putin gets this he will withdraw and say that he won but at least the war will be over but the sanctions will continue to affect his country.
___________
ReaderD:
Have you lived through the Stalinist era, so that you can use it as a basis for comparison??? That what is happening in Ukraine is horrible, yes, it is obvious. But neither you, nor I, nor anyone experienced what happened under Stalin. We didn’t even experience the 1st great war and we were in diapers for the 2nd. So, limit yourself to commenting on the present since you ignore the past
___________
ReaderE:
Double standards. It was simply necessary for Ukraine to remain neutral without massacring thousands of Russian speakers in the Donbass, double standards always lead to humanitarian crises. And then the USA are not choir children.
“It is a disgrace for the British diplomacy and an undeniable stain on its reputation.” What reputation? You mean Liz Truss? As if they care one bit when it comes to dealing with those who are in the way of carrying on with their genocidal policies perfected for centuries.
Britain’s reputation is presently that of incompetent lacky/poodle. Plenty wind from every direction but overall, impotent. Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, fail, fail and highly embarrassing fail, tail between legs abort mission unaccomplished, America, even more pathetic, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Ukraine.
NATO’s genocidal policies are not what they were when they had near monopoly, in fact, they’ve been reduced to training inferior recruits and operating inferior weapons technology.
Again, they’re reduced to false flags & guerrilla warfare, more or less Columbian Farc status without grass root support.
The problem is the west already accepts the Ukrainian narrative with no verification. So whatever Ukraine claims is immediately accepted. How do you defend against that? There is no defense.
I think the world is breaking in two pieces. In the Anglosaxon countries, the EU, and some occupied countries like Japan and South Korea, the narrative of a Russian massacre in Ucraine is believed. In the rest of the world – China, India, Africa, South America – we have no credibility at all.
Just off the top of my head:
– Colin Powell and his speech in the United Nations about Irak’s weapons of mass destruction
– The daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US lying that Iraqi soldiers were taking Kuwaiti babies from incubators
– The international criminal court stating that Khadafi bought containers of viagra so his soldiers could rape better
– The white helmets accusing the Syrian government of using chemical weapons
This latest lie is one lie too many. The US credibility is gone, and will not return in our lifetimes.
Where are the Skripals?
Correct. Father and daughter Skripal poisoned with Novichok, a mortal venom only Russia makes, surviving certain death. How could I forget the comical duo Petrov and Boshirov.
Sergei is still in the UK. Yulia has been given a new identity and has a new dog. From what she said, (think it was the last call to Victoria, not sure, I can’t be bothered to look it up) I can’t help thinking she may be in Canada.
Welcome to Oceania…. we have always been in war with Eurasia.
The Russian army captured the
U.S Major General Roger L. Cloutier Jr. Maj. Gen. Roger L. Cloutier, the U.S. Africa Command HQ Chief of Staff in the besieged Ukrainian Azov camp in Mariupol 🐠😂,
The Pentagon wanted to contact Putin.
I am skeptical of this claim. Why would such a high value official be there and why would he not have gotten out much sooner? Mariupol has been under attack for almost a month now.
It is incredible if true. It gives Russia incredible leverage. Assuming it is true, how does Russia handle this? Do you put him on television to show the world?
Until this is confirmed by the Russian MOD, it must be considered as very dubious information.
This is a problem,people should not post this sort of thing unless its proved,it just looks bad.
You do not parade captured officers on TV to the world if you are trying to prevent a wider conflagration beyond the borders of Ukraine while executing the SMO operation, especially when you have Obama’s neocons that whisper in Xiden’s earpiece, the intel community, and the NATO puppets all calling for a direct involvement, enforced no-fly zones, etc. The Empire of Lies & Hate wants ww3. We are already at a proxy war stage – let’s pray that it doesn’t go any further.
Many people here may disagree with me but I see the incident in Bucha as a self-inflicted wound by the Russian armed forces. What was the point of occupying these areas in the Kiev region if there was no intention of holding any territory? Also since the whole world is aware of the propaganda capabilities of the combined West, the Russian military could have arranged to have Russian media present to record their withdrawal from these areas to disprove any Ukrainian or Western allegations of abuses. Lastly, why aren’t the Russians doing more to inform the world of the horrific crimes committed by Ukrainian forces against Russian POWs?
Just your last point as the others are well explained already.
So, where exactly and how do you think Russia should ‘inform the world’? In the NYT? On CNN? The BBC? Exactly where, while most of the Russian sources of information have been cut off from the west?
It is in the Chinese media. It is in the Iranian media.
Look up ex-UN weapons inspector and ex-Marine Corps Intel Officer Scott Ritter. He’ll explain exactly why Russia did what it did. By going to Kiev and its suburbs, Russia basically kept Ukraine from reinforcing the east.
“I promise that I will be even more factual than today.”
It’s a shame that he ended that statement like that. In English the “more factual” can imply that what he was saying might not be true. And some of Russia’s enemies can spin it that way. It would have been better to have said something like “I will have even more facts for you tomorrow”,or something like that.
‘You can see clearly now what a “rules-based order” promoted by the UK and other Western countries means in real life. It means them imposing rules that are comfortable to them with total disregard for the international law and the established UNSC rules of procedure. …’
You have understood perfectly. It is the same “rules based order” by which they govern their own citizenry to impose arbitrary constraints and compulsions under such pseudonyms as “democracy”, “political correctness” and “equity” to suit their own agendas as they arise and are modified from one day to the next. In no case do they actually have anything to do with the phony “justifications” claimed for them, and no one should or could rationally expect its international application to differ substantially in that respect from its quite successful domestic applications.
As for its being “is something unbelievable and unprecedented in the history of the United Nations”, neither precedent nor consistency have anything to do with it. Expediency is the only criterion.
I’ve read many of the transcripts of the debates of the UNSC on the UN website for the past couple of years or so — the patience of the RF ambassador is remarkable. He faces story-tellers, spin doctors and bullying scum, people who spout lies as naturally as they breathe, every single meeting and yet he manages to remain unflustered, professional and a gentleman. A lesser person would have walked up and punched the Brit ambassador for not following norms in refusing to convene the meeting — not once but twice — that Russia requested.
The West is trying very hard to isolate RF at the UN but they won’t succeed. The reps from other non-Nato/Western countries on the UNSC know the score and will advise their governments accordingly.
In the eyes of many countries and especially the global South, the UN is losing credibility fast. Guterres is acting more and more as the rep of Nato Portugal rather than a neutral UN top dog.
Guterres? I think but have no proof, that they have some control file or they are threatening him or family – like they have done before with others. He sure is acting weird.
It’s a bit like the Covid-19 nonsense. You either believe the propaganda or you don’t. You either believe that Russia is the perpetrators of atrocities or you don’t.
It’s a common sense thing. You either have it or you don’t
Vous n’êtes pas habitué, n’est-ce pas ? Ils nous font cela en permanence, nos chefs sont des démons qui veulent qu’on les regarde comme des saints….
Would daily satellite images of the town resolve this issue?
They did however destroy a major mountainside ZATO command post in Syria killing top Israeli- MI6 – CIA cockroaches a year or so after that. Was a big deal with little reported on it. Knocked the wind from ZATO sails.
For certain lots of these highly trained subversive operatives/parasites are holed up in Mariupol ( the intended invasion launchpad ) with no escape. We should receive news of various assorted captures soon which will cause extreme head palpitations in various H/Q’s & Corridors.
Russia needs to parade them in front of TV cameras so as to wake the sheeple up.
Most don’t have a clue what the not-so-secret agencies do. Most think they are white hats working tirelessly to keep us safe LOL.
These MI6/MOSSAD/CIAFBI/ASIO &ASIS/DGSE/etc are terrorist agencies working for Zionist big capital and Euro trash royalty.
On another occasion they also captured about 200 British soldiers trying to escape (run away) wearing burkas.
BTW the retards/psychos in the British army are just itching for a punch up with the Russians so long as they have Big Daddy (US) to protect their arses, just like WW1/2.
I like to look up the job vacancies for the army then you can link to websites where they give their views, that is, current serving or ex, the most prevalent view, is that they couldn’t organise a piss-up in brewery. The local camp, Blandford Signals, it’s a well know fact, the only people that apply for a job there are unemployable.
To put this in context, think back what happened to South Africa to break up the apartheid.
Most everything You have here, minus a combined arms military operation. SA held out a bunch, despite whites being a tiny minority of the population.
Now compare SA to the RF.
Just the logistics. Let us not get into moral posturing please?
That is because they are all in it together. Playing on the same satanic team. The goal is to take down the entire world and bring in their new world order, via the so-called Great Reset (hidden meaning: The Great Re Set = “The Great King Satan” — look up “Re” and “Set”). The dollar and America must die.
And they will succeed because the Bible prophecy says all of this will come to pass. The world, and especially America-Babylon, are antichrist to its core. There will be no real peace until the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, returns.
If you say so LOL.
BTW “America” ( I presume you meant the USA) wasn’t in existence when the hodge podge collation of texts called the bible were written.
The West just keeps getting worse and worse. International law, treaties, and the legitimacy of institutions as established through honest and impartial management have been abandoned by the West. This obstruction is essentially an admission that the Russians have a strong case and the West doesn’t. This obstruction isn’t going to work. Does Britain imagine that this will prevent Russia from making its case?
The U.S. actually has a history of committing atrocities and trying to blame them on someone else. During the Vietnam war, the CIA recruited an advertising person, Edward Landsdale, to change Vietnamese public opinion in favor of the South. His strategy was to commit atrocities and try to blame them on the Viet Cong. After the war, Landsdale went on to practice his dark arts in South America.
There is much support for Russia amongst the normal people in western countries.
Whilst the UN theatrics were being performed, right in the very heart of New York a rally in support of Russia was taking place.
https://ria.ru/20220402/aktsiya-1781490995.html?utm_source=smi2_ria_obmen&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=rian_partners
“This is not a Russian invasion. Russia intervened to save people Donetsk and Lugansk who were killed for eight years. 14 thousand people died, and no large-scale Western media reports on this, “said one of the participants of the action.
Agreed, Kempston. But a majority are indoctrinated, brainwashed, or out anf out lemmings told how to think.
Since Zelensky gave thousands of firearms to the civilians, are they not a military target?
Once a target, always a target.
A month of relentless pro Ukrainian propaganda has passed. Western spoiled population is tired of the same, emotionaly overdriven narrative. Blue&Yellow is soooo last year.
New, more horrifying PR-stunts are necessary to maintain public oppinion. Tens of innocent civilians killed, now hundredths “massacred”, in a few weeks it will be thousands. The Law of diminishing returns is unforgivable.
The goal of all this surreal effort is to mobilize OTHERS to die for interests of Western (mainly Anglos) elite. Russia can hopelesly try to beat them in their favorite game (and embarrass itself over and over again), or do what it is doing the best, and beat the $hit out of them militarily.
Victors write history. Fakes are forgotten in a year.
No one has a complete story yet although after reading Joe Lauria’s analysis and seeing a few videos of the people living in the area I feel it’s another instance of cleansing presumed traitors by the Azov bataillion or some other members of the thugs who currently run Ukraine. However the event looks very convenient for the Western elites to exploit. Macron and friends are hiding behind the media coverage to further push their anti-Russia agenda.
The conclusion I draw from the whole thing is that the West won’t negotiate with Russia and neither Zelensky will. Russia is in for a long conflict in Ukraine and they won’t pay any attention to the Western MSM. Who in the MSM paid any attention to the torture inflicted on Russian POW’s by the Ukrainian thugs? And what about eight years of silence on the 13,000 civilians killed in the Donbass area by the Ukrainian armed forces under NATO C3I?
During that time the agricultural output of Ukraine will decrease. Neither Russia nor Khazakstan will offer wheat on the export markets and everyone will suffer from high food prices later this year.
But, what the duty and responsability of UN SG Guterres is, on this missbehavior by the current UNSC presidency occupied ( and never better said…) by the UK when this country jump over the UN rules and directives or exert a negligence on its duties?
Should not be the UK deposed from their in turn presidency due this bias and obvious infringment of the legislation on detriment and in dsicrimination of a certain country?
That the UK and the US are dedicated through the past decade to undermine the foundations of the UN or any other international body of world shared governance with the goal to take over all these bovied to their particular benefit is an boviety for any citizen watching and reading, even under the harsh censorship of Russian media we used to follow daily.
The chaos derived from this attitude on the part of these bullies and their varied mariachis is blatant at all levels of life in the world today.
The price to be paid by the citizenry expressed in an absolute lack of certainty for the future, economic disaster, destruction of the civil liberties and social cohesion which these actors seem to need for their obscure objectives at all related to the welfare of the peoples of the world, less for the conservation of the planet they so loudly and often claim.
Everybody, and their dogs, knows very well who and what are doing those who keep creating turmoil in the world even to the detriment of their own taxpayers.
Finally, and for the information of Mr. Nebenzia, there must be russophobia and blatant lies in the European media, that is fact I have breakfast everyday with, but that is not the case amongst the population, even amongst the most uninformed and brainwashed.
Yes, there was some talk at bars and work places about how much evil Putin is, especially in the first weeks of the SMO, but, still, there are some of us left to argue about the ongoing precedent war for the past 8 years and the genocide being exerted on the Donbass population of which no media nor authority told them a word.
They keep silent, thinking, some even venturing further that, all in all, Putin is evil.
Well, even if we have to accept ship as sea animal, the reality pof the Donbass carnage and the necessity for someone doing something gets through.
Still, those trying to convey the facts through the social media, are increasingly being harassed and menaced with having been placed in lists, whith their names, phone numbers and home adresses, being published online…
Those of all who are aware of the nazi Myrotvorest kill list for all these past years, which meant the death of Ukrainian writer Oles Buzina, and the forced exile of so many others, know that, or there are nazi “refugees” already here doing their thing, or it is their patrons who made their thing here….
People like Paco Arnau, a former member of the Spanish Communist Party ( before its take over by the Soros crew…) who have collaborated sometimes with Russian media in the past, or like Liu Sivaya, a political scientist long time resident in Spain for very personal reasons, are suffering this harassment without any political party, including those who in the past suffered harassment themselves in their homes by far- right operatives, saying a word or denouncing their situation in the parliament.
Another sad case is that of Spanish/Russian journalist Pablo Gonzalez, kept jailed and incomunicado for already a month in Poland under acussation of spying for the Russians. His crime, for what it seems, speaking Russian and holding a Russian passport…he is a descendant of a “niño de la guerra”, one of those children who left for the USSR during the Spanish Civil War, hence he was born in Russia
This father of three did not deserve any mention nor interest on the part of Spanish FM in his last visit to Warsaw…
May be the Russian FM could make an inquiry about his whereabouts since the man is also a Russian citizen…
Hello, I am posting here for the first time. Thank you very much for being here.
First, the integrity of the Russian leaders. Try comparing the video of Ukraine President Zelensky dancing obnoxiously (posted here not too long ago) to the video of President Putin, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Patriarch Kirill at the Military Cathedral in Moscow, viewable on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y33QI1J1Qc0&t=24s
Watch any video of Patriarch Kirill or President Putin and compare to Zelensky, Boris Johnson or Biden. Who is a logical person going to believe? Words to the contrary cannot knock away the truth.
Second, about those armbands. The “radical” in the video linked to above wants to shoot someone who is not wearing a blue armband. It doesn’t seem to matter whether the person is wearing a white armband or no armband.
Concerning the video of people lined up on the streets looking dead, and the question, “Why would Russian troops leave pro-Russian civilians there?” Maybe because they didn’t. Why would they?
Given the history of the White Helmets and their fakery in Syria, I wonder whether the armbands were added later, which means the bodies were dead bodies of (not necessarily pro-Russian) civilians, or some of the bodies weren’t dead, and the wearers/actors put white armbands on in order to make Russia look bad.
Third, about the effect mainstream media has on people here in the United States. On the way to the grocery store, my normally calm and cool neighbor gave me a long lecture on the evils of Russia and President Putin without drawing a breath. Her diatribe was so over-the-top, I hesitate to write it down. Of course, she gets her news from “reliable sources.” Gas will go up and inflation will happen because we Americans will have to make a sacrifice for the sake of the poor Ukrainians. She’s not sure how Biden will handle it, but people might need to start carrying guns. President Putin is. .. well, it is truly unbelievable what mainstream media can do to a person’s mind. I could tell her the sky is blue, but there’s no point. I’ve tried. The sky remains the color of mud.
Thanks.
Ukrainian SBU is arresting civilians, this way, in Depropetrovsk….
https://twitter.com/VeraVanHorne/status/1511301270820343809?cxt=HHwWgsC-vfSfnPkpAAAA
Russia needs to get very serious with their efforts. Who cares about the US/Jewish propaganda machine?! Who gives a rat’s ass about the “masses” acceptance? Our governments certainly don’t care, why should Russia. Now we have a modified chemical attack in the LPR and the absolute torture of the Russian soldiers. They probably wish they were dead and may well be very soon. The seizure of the Gazprom facility in Germany.
These bastards are desperate! Get the jump on them. This is BS! Everyday I am more horrified than the next. Get on with it and quickly and call them out as the liars they are. The world already knows this FACT. If I had any power I’d slaughter these demons without hesitation. Put the rabid beasts down NOW!
This business, war, as dirty and messy as it is, is also methodical. You can not rush it. If You do not follow certain internal rules, you can lose in a single move – and You will not see it coming.
Have faith – and keep the gunpowder dry…
Right now, against all impression, we have them, where we want them.
Dirty, stinky, hungry, thirsty, tired, hangover, strung-out, pinned down, localized, scared, out of ammo, fuel, leadership – hope.
Let them stew in it.
Thank you. I know. I am furious with this situation. It doesn’t have to be this way. It’s been decades since i discovered the truth and I go from anger to despair back to anger. Yes..Let them stew in it. Boil. Hail Victory!
You’d figure that if the Bucha thing was in deed as the west presents it, they would call a meeting at the UN very quickly. Yet they stall. Why?
The biolabs is no more in the media… Bucha replaced it. This was intentional, so it had to be staged.
Biolabs news already was on decline. Bucha hoax is more likely reaction on what happened in Mariupol. In those crashed helis number of Western VIPs got their Trial by Fire…and failed. Probably more are stucked in safe-houses and Azovstal.
The UN mandated “independent Investigation” is way to pull them out safely.
“In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and ‘neutral’ Sweden got stuck at Azovstal. Right now they are getting in touch with the Russian troops with a request to help them leave, to organize a corridor for the exit. – journalist German Vladimirov”
What do you think Russians should do with them?
Do we know thats true? if it is no way should those rats be allowed out they should be taken prisoner and exposed,the Russians made a mistake in Aleppo when they allowed those head hacking Apes a way out to Idlib,now there is a big problem there.
That info came from Oleg Novikov’s channel https://t.me/s/Oleg_Blokhin, and he was subsequently arrested. There’s photos of report of his arrest –
https://vk.com/wall329801318_140392
Today my friend, who is a father of many children, was arrested.
At 6:18 in the morning they came for Oleg Novikov, for a real Kharkiv resident. In his telegram channel, he wrote: “They came for me. Do not remember dashingly. Remain yourself.”
They came for a man whom neither prison nor war could break.
The father of three children, an invalid on one leg, whose stamina can be envied by anyone. He was not afraid, being in Kharkov, to tell the truth about the city and the war. He
made a hole in an endless stream of lies and outrageous propaganda.
Oleg Novikov was dangerous for the liars and criminals who destroyed Ukraine. Those who came for him are very afraid of his Power and his Truth…
An endless series of missing people: Elena Berezhnaya, Vasily Volga, Yan Taksyur, Yuri Tkachev, the Kononovichi brothers and hundreds of others are in mortal danger today. But nobody in the world wants to see this…
We really hope that Oleg Novikov will be able to survive, there is a small chance that he will be exchanged.
God grant that Oleg survives…
These beasts, the fascist regime, do not disdain anything. They have no soul or conscience. That is why we need denazification and why we need to put this entire Kyiv regime in jail and hold a tribunal.
Oleg, I pray for you! Hold on! Hope I see you soon! And I wish his family perseverance and endurance.
At least the filth are contained in Idlib. Either Turkey takes them or they get taken out at some given time in the future. It’s odd that James Le Mesurier was still living there until shortly before his death. As one former British SS officer said, “national security” is all about preventing embarrassment to Britain, the government or the monarchy. There’s a monumental list, but the calling cards used to be car accident, death involving some form of sexual deviation often involving strangulation, cling film, plastic wrap etc, they now prefer “Novichok” although it’s wearing a bit thin.
https://syriapropagandamedia.org/james-le-mesurier-a-reconstruction-of-his-business-activities-and-covert-role
The word Novichok is a “canary trap” used by the Russians (very smart concept).
They will probably be exchanged for Russian captured assets.
not to be the cold bastid, that I am, and Mea Culpa to the deceased, but I am relieved, that they chose this “mild” form of a false flag…for now…
RIP.
To the perpetrators – we`ll meet in hell, I am sure.
Then you`ll wish you weren`t there…
Ukrainian MP says MI6 did it (better version, with subtitles):
https://twitter.com/linok_ua/status/1511082212736725003
England stalls Russia at the UNSC.
Is MI6 pulling some of the strings behind the CIA?
Given the scale of the massacre, it was perpetrated on orders from high up in the command chain. Now, what leadership would have had an advantage in such a massacre? Possible Uk benefits: eliminate people revealed as unpatriotic during the Russian occupation, add to the hatred campaign against Russia, make for the red line beyond which NATO will become involved. RF costs/benefits: losing time killing people when there were urgent tactical imperatives, killing civilians for no tactical gain after having been considerably slowed down in other operations by the presence of human shields. Hard to find any positives for RF, especially if we are dealing with an order from high up the command chain. Even without this, there is not the beginning of a clue for likely motivation.
“We were denied a Security Council meeting that we requested today from the British Presidency.”
All the more reason to detain the trapped British mercenaries in Azovstal who are currently asking Russian troops for help leaving:
“In Mariupol, NATO officers from France, Germany, Britain and ‘neutral’ Sweden got stuck at Azovstal. Right now they are getting in touch with the Russian troops with a request to help them leave, to organize a corridor for the exit.” – journalist German Vladimirov
Actually all of these NATO mercenaries should be detained/arrested pending war crimes investigations. If they were encouraging or promoting war crimes, then Russia should prosecute them.
No use of letting them live. Not worth it. Nothing to prove, just destroy them and carry on.
I really don’t envy Russian UN diplomats these days, the West has swiftly turned into a new version of Nazi Germany, dropping all the things that it claims it is defending. Now we are supporting Nazis, censorship, oppression of opposition parties and ethnic groups, torture of POW’s etc.
This is a nightmare. I am on Russia’s side, despite all the verbal attacks I am subjected to even from friends.
I read on telegra dot ph (no joke!) today that the Bucha satellite images are not from mid-March as claimed, but from about 11 AM GMT on April 1. Experts analyzed the orbital data of the four satellites of that company, as well as things like the angle of the sun etc.
I hope the Russians will show the new video at the UN that was published last night. It shows Ukrainians executing Russians exactly like the people in Bucha were executed: victims wearing white armbands, hands tied, shot to death and left bleeding out along the road.
I am new here, I am not sure I am allowed to post links, but here it is, from a Telegram channel. It is very violent, so don’t watch it if you are very sensitive:
https://t.me/readovkanews/30049
Click Cancel if you are asked whether or not to open Telegram, you can watch the video without Telegram.
Stalling is what the West does best, and refusing to call an emergency meeting was just a stall tactic to give the lying Western media time to get in front of the narrative and frame it against Russia. Which is exactly what they did. We have been expecting a false flag for weeks now, and here it is.
“Kemosabe” saved the day!: I was on the UN Security council meeting (via internet) this morning ( 2022-04-05) after getting this Saker Post. listening to most of the BS being spewed by the usual suspects and a very poor (not up to date or very inspiring or comprehensive) performance by the Russian representative. I started posting this every 37 seconds in the comment section. Toward the end of the session, the Russian representative asked for another few minutes to talk again, which was granted. He read this verbatim (for the most part). Someone must have read it and printed something out for him which stunned the Ukrainian Representative and most of the representatives there who, evidently, also had a copy by that time. I wish the Russian representative had the time beforehand to assimilate it more thoroughly, but he seemed pleased at the end that he had what he had, and was gloating over the Ukrainian representative that could only respond with “lies”. LOLOL
Please could you expand on what was said at the end of the UNSC meeting? Mod.
Sorry to say this but I also find the Russian Ambassador to US is not well versed in public speaking
I do understand English may not be his first language but you need someone like Maria Zakharova who can show these parasites in UN their place.
I watched yesterday press conference also and the Russian ambassador was more defensive rather than aggressive. He was looking for words and was not able to even form complete sentences sometimes.
Though Russia will never win the PR war but you need a ruthless speaker who can trample upon this western elite.
To Mod: nothing much was said at the end other than it was over. That tells me this article sunk in, in that the war drums fell silent as did the frothing at the mouth. I really think it made a difference today. The logic of the facts in the article cannot be ignored by anybody with a brain.
First off, I’d like to mention that, as an American, the continual smearing of Russia and Russians is deeply offensive and embarrassing. So are de-platforming-like actions, like firing a Russian conductor working in the US.
Secondly, I think the Russian government should do serious outside-the-box thinking about getting their narratives and facts to the public, especially the European and American publics. My sense of things is that they are too proper to do so, but what do I know about what goes on in the minds of the Russian government officials? They probably need a task force of outside-the-box creative types (e.g., TV and movie script writers) and political game theorists.
Thirdly, some coercion seems morally justified. To this end, rather than taking on the whole world, at once, they can employ (what I understand of) a Saul Alinsky tactic of “freezing a target”. E.g., demand of (just) the German government (for now) that they allow presentation of their evidence to their legislators, and also 1/2 hour on a public TV station. Or else, Russia can suspend their oil and gas deliveries. After all, why would the Germans want to buy oil and gas from a rogue nation that slaughters civilians, anyway?
After Germany bends the knee, they can repeat the process for other countries.
Fourthly, another form of coercion is lawfare. I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Russia should be able to sue Western media outlets for defamation. Recall that Dominion even managed to cow Fox News into ceasing or drastically curtailing reporting about widespread vote fraud in the 2020 Presidential election via lawsuits.
The problem Russia fasces:
“A lie travels halfway around the world before the truth puts on its shoes. By the time the truth catches up, it’s too late. The lie has become lore. And that’s what’s so worrying. …” — Professor Heather Cox Richardson