Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has announced plans for a second humanitarian convoy to be sent to eastern Ukraine, urging foreign actors and agencies to participate in continuing efforts at relieving the crisis.
Failure to do so would constitute a violation of international law, he warned.
“The second aid convoy must travel this week… We hope for less interference and more cooperation from Ukrainian authorities this time”…
One has to admire the professionalism of the Russian Federation leaders and in particular Mr. Lavrov and Mr. Putin.
What the West calls an “invasion” or breach of national territorial integrity is plain BS: Let’s take note again of the 1986 ICJ ruling:
“Russia [said Saturday] its humanitarian assistance mission to turbulent eastern Ukraine had complied with the International Court of Justice ruling that allowed for the delivery of humanitarian aid to people disregarding their political convictions.
The Red Cross stated it is ready to accompany the second humanitarian Ais Convoy.
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having set a precedent on the first aid delivery, let’s see if the Fogh rASSmussen will keep putting foot in mouth. Why does he continue to speak for NATO. His term expired on July 31,2014.
Anyone notice how the western media ignores any statements and or confirmation by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).?
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In the Can’t Make This Stuff Up category but, despite Ukie’s failure to pay up the $5.3 bln owed for gas this is very honourable of Gazprom and strategically wise:
“We consider this payment as erroneous and are currently sorting out this issue,” the Naftogaz press office said, adding the company would shortly provide detailed information.
Gazprom spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov said on Thursday that the Russian energy giant had paid an additional $10.54 million for Europe-bound gas transit via Ukraine in July. Gazprom made advance payments to Naftogaz in 2012-2013 to ensure natural gas transit via Ukraine until mid-2014, including a partial payment for July.
(emphasis mine) = = = = =
Ukies can’t claim the transit 2014-2015 fees for gas to EU have not been paid. But given the statement this payment was “erroneous” who knows what disinfo these guys will put out.
re: 2nd aid convoy. I just listened to the whole Lavrov press conference ( what an indefatigable man–he rocks) and he did not mention a second convoy at all. He said that on the contrary he was not going to speculate on this but that Russia was going to be as transparent about any future aid efforts as they had been with the first convoy and that they were willing to work with any government including the Ukrainians or UN humanitarian organizations as were interested in relief of the humanitarian crisis.
Then he abruptly got up and left the news conference putting an end to it. So how did RT come up with this 2nd convoy canard if that is even true?
Re: 2nd convoy hype: Lavrov is a diplomat and with a major conference in Minsk tomorrow he is not going to give the main scream media any material to create distraction and hysteria…he said nothing about a 2nd convoy..not those words..he said aid needed to continue. He is way too crafty and too experienced a diplomat to fall into that trap. It is true that RT did post that but Lavrov did not say that in his press conference and I am at a loss as to why it was reported with the provocative formulation of “2nd convoy”.
Lavrov at 6:40 starts to talk of his ministry’s note to the Ukraine ministry about a 2nd convoy, and by 7:53 he’s spelled it out as going by the same route to the same destination – and it must happen this week.
Said this on another post…Lavrov=Russian catnip to gravitas-starved Americans. The guy is impressive. Miss watching him tie Charlie Rose into gordian-knots.
at 7 minutes into the press conference Lavrov specifically states that they are planning on another convoy and mentions it as a second convoy that he hopes to send this week by means of the same route and using the same customs clearing facilities.
After dropping off cake in Ferguson and humanitarian supplies in san francisco for the seals corralled at the pier..
“Back, and not empty-handed. Now he has a special mission. He will coordinate the counter-offensive of the LPR and the DPR militia forces as a military advisor. At this time there is an ongoing joint special operation of the militia forces,” – said a source in Novorossia.
The horrible Strelkov as a target for the Ukrainian punitive troops. The most interesting things is that, among all military leaders of Novorossia, Strelkov was the most hated by the junta. It is not surprising that in the hacked mail of the chief editor of Censor.Net the harassment of Strelkov was set among the highest priority tasks for the junta.
Good to see Saker is not worthy to be a a freshly baked terrorist news site just yet..
@anonymous 25 August, 2014 16:56 ’Re: 2nd aid convoy. I just listened to the whole Lavrov press conference ( what an indefatigable man–he rocks) and he did not mention a second convoy at all.[.]
You may have missed it.
Mr. Lavrov said
[.]
“Moscow “will participate in these efforts.” “We want to co-ordinate our actions with the Ukrainians, with Ukrainian leadership that also plans to send additional humanitarian cargoes to the southeast, we will help ensure security guarantees by the militias,” Lavrov said. “We are ready for the relevant co-operation in the delivery of humanitarian cargoes, promised by the EU and other donor countries. I think international organisations, Including the World Food Program, Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees should also make a contribution to this and intend to do so.” “We have absolutely open approaches to this, we are ready to ensure absolute transparency, the same as with the first convoy,” he said. “We have no secrets here.”http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/746565
Other media reports and upthread I stated in my comment the Red Cross is ready link here
Russian Red Cross workers ready to accompany new convoy to Ukraine
MOSCOW, August 25. /ITAR-TASS/. The Russian Red Cross is ready to accompany a second convoy to Ukraine and has already set up five teams of volunteers and workers for that, the organization’s spokesperson Tatyana Klenitskaya said on Monday. “The Red Cross has sent letters to Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Emergencies Minister Vladimir Puchkov, offering assistance in escorting the aid and helping to distribute it in the south-east of Ukraine,” she said.
”KIEV, August 25. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Monday voiced concern about Russia’s plans to send a new aid convoy to Ukraine.’
I’ll be very annoyed if RT reported this wrong. For what it’s worth (i.e. from sources I trust much less than RT), here’s what a search (at around 3 pm USA east coast time) for Ukraine ad convoy second yielded, among 8,770,000 results:
Reuters: “We want to reach an agreement on all conditions for delivering a second convoy by the same route… in the coming days.”
The Guardian: “Sergei Lavrov, said on Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government that it was preparing to send a second convoy along the same route in the coming days.”
USA Today “Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government that it was preparing to send a second convoy along the same route in the coming days.”
FOX News “Sergey Lavrov said Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government of its plans to send the new convoy in the coming days.”
BBC: “He was reacting to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who said the Kremlin planned to send a second humanitarian convoy “in the next few days” as the situation there was “deteriorating”.”
NYT: “Russia hopes to send a second convoy of humanitarian aid to east Ukraine sometime this week, Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia said on Monday.”
Financial Times “Moscow will send a second humanitarian aid convoy to Ukraine this week using the same route and procedure as the first one, Russia’s foreign minister announced on Monday.”
This was sent to me by a friend. I know little-to-nothing about the inner politics of the Russian Orthodox Church, Moscow Patriarchate. But even in Yandex translation, both the piece itself and the commentary on it strike me as quite interesting indeed, and a significant, well-timed move by Patriarch Kirill. The artwork alone is quite striking…
In the European blogs article has appeared /originated from Germany / that Putin give the uncle Sam ultimatum that if they still are going to continue this war with Ukraine at the border with Russia, he will reinstall the Ballistic rockets in Cuba / it was previously agreed with Cuba in his last visit / and the representation of the uncle Sam decided suddenly to have a conversation about a peace in Ukraine. Let’s hope it will result in some practical negotiations and the uncle Sam will step back for a while……………
Not sure what you listened to but the second aid convoy was discussed in detail in the first ten minutes of the YouTube of Lavrov’s talk which Saker posted, uh, right here. Maybe you weren’t paying close attention? He certainly spent a lot of time going over all the details. And yes, he does rock. I’m still amazed you missed it though… just can’t imagine how!
Just wanted to add our 2cents real quick while we document and archive the “story” as it evolves via the CBC. Thus far today, the “story” has changed approx 5 times today. Not only online but on-air as well. Power and Politics just had a CDN OSEC “monitor” and the “interview” was steered towards the Ukie narrative as much as possible. So, if anyone has access tl either the CBC network or can access it online later, you can get an idea of how “they” have pretty much lost their own narrative a d are merely grasping at any straws “they” can to salvage it. Hopefully we’ll have a summary article later this evening to share or findings. While some may not be very interested, this may provide a but ‘o insight into how easy it is for the MSM to change the story on the fly and dupe an entire audience to boot. Hopefully it inspires others to embark on similar quests to hold the MSM accountable for misleading and false propaganda, discredit some talking heads and put some fear into the politicos as well…
R: Don’t forget the fact that Mrs ‘F*** Europe and I <3 Yikes/Yats’ Nuland/Kagan in November 2013 was able to predict who’d be Western Ukraine’s new PM in April, 2014…
It’s clearly not about ‘counting votes,’ it’s more about ‘who has the right amount of shekels…’
Do any of you worry that the Americans will bomb Eastern Ukraine in a sneak attack since it is obviously unraveling in Kiev and Merkel is about to end sanctions?
They cannot afford the East seceding and adding Mariupol which makes re acquiring Crimea nigh impossible
America has no morals and Obama has basically surrendered his authority to the Deep State while he plays out golfing and attending sycophantic fundraisers
1. Obviously the Dems will lose the Senate 2. Obamacare price increases coming in a few weeks making it worse for him
I speculated earlier that the aide convoy could make it easier for succeeding convoys to Novorossia. I”m glad a second is already in the works, those people could sure use the it. Let’s hope this aide can become a regular thing.
“Tinfoil hat” is probably their favourite of attack expressions that they use on sites they are hostile to and trying to disrupt. They should be able to offer you expert advice on how to make the adjustments you seek.
I have some what-if questions, starting with the basic premise:
What if a part of Armed Forces of Ukraine decides to make a 180 degree turn and goes for a putsch in Kiev?
1. Would that be ok to Russia? 2. Would that be ok to Germany? 3. Would USA have balls to intervene with their own forces?
It’s just a hypothetical scenario, but if the situation evolves toward 1. yes, 2. yes and 3. no, then it might become an option, with U. Army in a bad shape, U. economy collapsing, winter approaching, Germany suffering sanctions and Putin not willing to take too many risks…
RT report of Lavrov press conference:
Lavrov: Russia to send another humanitarian convoy to Ukraine
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has announced plans for a second humanitarian convoy to be sent to eastern Ukraine, urging foreign actors and agencies to participate in continuing efforts at relieving the crisis.
Failure to do so would constitute a violation of international law, he warned.
“The second aid convoy must travel this week… We hope for less interference and more cooperation from Ukrainian authorities this time”…
Setting the stage:
One has to admire the professionalism of the Russian Federation leaders and in particular Mr. Lavrov and Mr. Putin.
What the West calls an “invasion” or breach of national territorial integrity is plain BS:
Let’s take note again of the 1986 ICJ ruling:
“Russia [said Saturday] its humanitarian assistance mission to turbulent eastern Ukraine had complied with the International Court of Justice ruling that allowed for the delivery of humanitarian aid to people disregarding their political convictions.
(snip)
The ministry pointed to the paragraph 242 of the International Justice Court’s ruling dated June 27, 1986 stipulating that humanitarian aid “cannot be regarded as unlawful intervention.”
The Red Cross stated it is ready to accompany the second humanitarian Ais Convoy.
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having set a precedent on the first aid delivery, let’s see if the Fogh rASSmussen will keep putting foot in mouth. Why does he continue to speak for NATO. His term expired on July 31,2014.
= = = = =
Carry On:
The Defense Ministry of the Republic of Donetsk announced early today that one of its units took control of Yelenovka driving out Ukrainian troops
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Anyone notice how the western media ignores any statements and or confirmation by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).?
= = = = =
In the Can’t Make This Stuff Up category
but,
despite Ukie’s failure to pay up the $5.3 bln owed for gas this is very honourable of Gazprom and strategically wise:
The Ukrainian national energy company Naftogaz considers as “erroneous” Gazprom’s additional $10.54 million payment for the July gas transit, the Naftogaz press office said on Thursday.
“We consider this payment as erroneous and are currently sorting out this issue,” the Naftogaz press office said, adding the company would shortly provide detailed information.
Gazprom spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov said on Thursday that the Russian energy giant had paid an additional $10.54 million for Europe-bound gas transit via Ukraine in July. Gazprom made advance payments to Naftogaz in 2012-2013 to ensure natural gas transit via Ukraine until mid-2014, including a partial payment for July.
(emphasis mine)
= = = = =
Ukies can’t claim the transit 2014-2015 fees for gas to EU have not been paid. But given the statement this payment was “erroneous” who knows what disinfo these guys will put out.
re: 2nd aid convoy. I just listened to the whole Lavrov press conference ( what an indefatigable man–he rocks) and he did not mention a second convoy at all. He said that on the contrary he was not going to speculate on this but that Russia was going to be as transparent about any future aid efforts as they had been with the first convoy and that they were willing to work with any government including the Ukrainians or UN humanitarian organizations as were interested in relief of the humanitarian crisis.
Then he abruptly got up and left the news conference putting an end to it. So how did RT come up with this 2nd convoy canard if that is even true?
Re: 2nd convoy hype: Lavrov is a diplomat and with a major conference in Minsk tomorrow he is not going to give the main scream media any material to create distraction and hysteria…he said nothing about a 2nd convoy..not those words..he said aid needed to continue. He is way too crafty and too experienced a diplomat to fall into that trap. It is true that RT did post that but Lavrov did not say that in his press conference and I am at a loss as to why it was reported with the provocative formulation of “2nd convoy”.
Lavrov at 6:40 starts to talk of his ministry’s note to the Ukraine ministry about a 2nd convoy, and by 7:53 he’s spelled it out as going by the same route to the same destination – and it must happen this week.
Said this on another post…Lavrov=Russian catnip to gravitas-starved Americans. The guy is impressive. Miss watching him tie Charlie Rose into gordian-knots.
More gullible garbage from the Kardashian Post
Maybe they should just stick to Beyonce, Taylor Swift and Kardashians and forego their lazy propaganda about evil Putin
Any Corporate Media article that begins “Ukraine claims” should be dismissed immediately as bullshit
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/ukraine-russian-troops_n_5707993.html
at 7 minutes into the press conference Lavrov specifically states that they are planning on another convoy and mentions it as a second convoy that he hopes to send this week by means of the same route and using the same customs clearing facilities.
return of Strelkov
After dropping off cake in Ferguson and humanitarian supplies in san francisco for the seals corralled at the pier..
“Back, and not empty-handed. Now he has a special mission. He will coordinate the counter-offensive of the LPR and the DPR militia forces as a military advisor. At this time there is an ongoing joint special operation of the militia forces,” – said a source in Novorossia.
The horrible Strelkov as a target for the Ukrainian punitive troops. The most interesting things is that, among all military leaders of Novorossia, Strelkov was the most hated by the junta. It is not surprising that in the hacked mail of the chief editor of Censor.Net the harassment of Strelkov was set among the highest priority tasks for the junta.
Good to see Saker is not worthy to be a a freshly baked terrorist news site just yet..
@anonymous 25 August, 2014 16:56
’Re: 2nd aid convoy. I just listened to the whole Lavrov press conference ( what an indefatigable man–he rocks) and he did not mention a second convoy at all.[.]
You may have missed it.
Mr. Lavrov said
[.]
“Moscow “will participate in these efforts.” “We want to co-ordinate our actions with the Ukrainians, with Ukrainian leadership that also plans to send additional humanitarian cargoes to the southeast, we will help ensure security guarantees by the militias,” Lavrov said. “We are ready for the relevant co-operation in the delivery of humanitarian cargoes, promised by the EU and other donor countries. I think international organisations, Including the World Food Program, Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees should also make a contribution to this and intend to do so.”
“We have absolutely open approaches to this, we are ready to ensure absolute transparency, the same as with the first convoy,” he said. “We have no secrets here.”http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/746565
Other media reports and upthread I stated in my comment the Red Cross is ready link here
Russian Red Cross workers ready to accompany new convoy to Ukraine
MOSCOW, August 25. /ITAR-TASS/. The Russian Red Cross is ready to accompany a second convoy to Ukraine and has already set up five teams of volunteers and workers for that, the organization’s spokesperson Tatyana Klenitskaya said on Monday.
“The Red Cross has sent letters to Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Emergencies Minister Vladimir Puchkov, offering assistance in escorting the aid and helping to distribute it in the south-east of Ukraine,” she said.
AND
Candy man Porky is concerned about Russia’s plan to send new aid convoy to Ukraine
”KIEV, August 25. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Monday voiced concern about Russia’s plans to send a new aid convoy to Ukraine.’
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
More is always welcomed: Latvia joins in
Riga to provide €110,000 to eastern Ukraine to buy baby food, medications
At 6:50 of Lavrov’s press conference he speaks of a 2nd aid convoy as was picked up by RT. As usual, RT is on the ball.
I’ll be very annoyed if RT reported this wrong. For what it’s worth (i.e. from sources I trust much less than RT), here’s what a search (at around 3 pm USA east coast time) for Ukraine ad convoy second yielded, among 8,770,000 results:
Reuters:
“We want to reach an agreement on all conditions for delivering a second convoy by the same route… in the coming days.”
The Guardian:
“Sergei Lavrov, said on Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government that it was preparing to send a second convoy along the same route in the coming days.”
USA Today
“Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government that it was preparing to send a second convoy along the same route in the coming days.”
FOX News
“Sergey Lavrov said Monday that Russia had notified the Ukrainian government of its plans to send the new convoy in the coming days.”
BBC:
“He was reacting to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who said the Kremlin planned to send a second humanitarian convoy “in the next few days” as the situation there was “deteriorating”.”
NYT:
“Russia hopes to send a second convoy of humanitarian aid to east Ukraine sometime this week, Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia said on Monday.”
Financial Times
“Moscow will send a second humanitarian aid convoy to Ukraine this week using the same route and procedure as the first one, Russia’s foreign minister announced on Monday.”
This was sent to me by a friend. I know little-to-nothing about the inner politics of the Russian Orthodox Church, Moscow Patriarchate. But even in Yandex translation, both the piece itself and the commentary on it strike me as quite interesting indeed, and a significant, well-timed move by Patriarch Kirill. The artwork alone is quite striking…
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/zavtra.ru/content/view/obraschenie-2/
In the European blogs article has appeared /originated from Germany / that Putin give the uncle Sam ultimatum that if they still are going to continue this war with Ukraine at the border with Russia, he will reinstall the Ballistic rockets in Cuba / it was previously agreed with Cuba in his last visit / and the representation of the uncle Sam decided suddenly to have a conversation about a peace in Ukraine. Let’s hope it will result in some practical negotiations and the uncle Sam will step back for a while……………
Anonymous 16:56,
Not sure what you listened to but the second aid convoy was discussed in detail in the first ten minutes of the YouTube of Lavrov’s talk which Saker posted, uh, right here. Maybe you weren’t paying close attention? He certainly spent a lot of time going over all the details. And yes, he does rock. I’m still amazed you missed it though… just can’t imagine how!
Early elections called for October 26th as Candy man Porky dissolves Parliament. Says he can’t work with them — they refused to recognize the self-proclaimed Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics as terrorist groups.
Porky had limited authority. But where does this leave Yats and those right sector skunks?
Who will count the votes?
= = = = =
Carry On
AM
Just wanted to add our 2cents real quick while we document and archive the “story” as it evolves via the CBC. Thus far today, the “story” has changed approx 5 times today. Not only online but on-air as well. Power and Politics just had a CDN OSEC “monitor” and the “interview” was steered towards the Ukie narrative as much as possible. So, if anyone has access tl either the CBC network or can access it online later, you can get an idea of how “they” have pretty much lost their own narrative a d are merely grasping at any straws “they” can to salvage it. Hopefully we’ll have a summary article later this evening to share or findings. While some may not be very interested, this may provide a but ‘o insight into how easy it is for the MSM to change the story on the fly and dupe an entire audience to boot. Hopefully it inspires others to embark on similar quests to hold the MSM accountable for misleading and false propaganda, discredit some talking heads and put some fear into the politicos as well…
DumpHarper!
＠Ａｎｏｎ Ｍｏｎｇｏｏｓｅ,
Q: Who will count the votes?
R: Don’t forget the fact that Mrs ‘F*** Europe and I <3 Yikes/Yats’ Nuland/Kagan in November 2013 was able to predict who’d be Western Ukraine’s new PM in April, 2014…
It’s clearly not about ‘counting votes,’ it’s more about ‘who has the right amount of shekels…’
Do any of you worry that the Americans will bomb Eastern Ukraine in a sneak attack since it is obviously unraveling in Kiev and Merkel is about to end sanctions?
They cannot afford the East seceding and adding Mariupol which makes re acquiring Crimea nigh impossible
America has no morals and Obama has basically surrendered his authority to the Deep State while he plays out golfing and attending sycophantic fundraisers
1. Obviously the Dems will lose the Senate
2. Obamacare price increases coming in a few weeks making it worse for him
This would be Hail Mary
*adjusting tin foil hat for better calibration*
I speculated earlier that the aide convoy could make it easier for succeeding convoys to Novorossia. I”m glad a second is already in the works, those people could sure use the it. Let’s hope this aide can become a regular thing.
вот так
Anunnaki said…25 August, 2014 23:45
“*adjusting tin foil hat for better calibration*”
This lot can probably help you with that:
http://justthetalk.com/thehaven/22678/i_ordered_a_sandwich_vii & http://justthetalk.com/football/262/stuff_that_cheered_me_up_slightly_for_a_few_moments
“Tinfoil hat” is probably their favourite of attack expressions that they use on sites they are hostile to and trying to disrupt. They should be able to offer you expert advice on how to make the adjustments you seek.
вот так
English transcript if you don’t want to sit through the whole hour plus…
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov gives a briefing on Ukraine’s humanitarian crisis in Moscow on 25 August 2014
http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/8000CC90E5B4DC2444257D40001C4ADC
I have some what-if questions, starting with the basic premise:
What if a part of Armed Forces of Ukraine decides to make a 180 degree turn and goes for a putsch in Kiev?
1. Would that be ok to Russia?
2. Would that be ok to Germany?
3. Would USA have balls to intervene with their own forces?
It’s just a hypothetical scenario, but if the situation evolves toward 1. yes, 2. yes and 3. no, then it might become an option, with U. Army in a bad shape, U. economy collapsing, winter approaching, Germany suffering sanctions and Putin not willing to take too many risks…
juan de argentina
Anunnaki said…
“Merkel is about to end sanctions”
>Where did you find this??
Nora…
I get a 404 error for your link. :(
basho,
This one?
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/zavtra.ru/content/view/obraschenie-2/
I just tried it and it’s fine — maybe the site was down for a while?