By Ramin Mazaheri for The Saker Blog and cross-posted with Press TV
It’s Day 3 of the US Election Debacle and – as we’re still mid-debacle – it’s very possible that Donald Trump will be the only conservative casualty, because it’s already certain the US election was an undeniable disaster for Democrats.
The Democrats had everything on their side in 2020: the mainstream media, the Deep State, the (self-professed) moral high ground, more campaign money than ever, a hysterically-motivated base – and yet if Trump does end up winning Democrats will have nothing to show for all that.
That should be stunning news. Here is the roundup of the non-presidential elections:
Republicans now hold 60% of state legislatures (where the most far-reaching policies are decided in this extremely decentralised, pioneer-influenced system), half of all state governorships, they’ll almost certainly keep a majority in the Senate, they shockingly reduced the Democratic majority in the House of Representatives, conservatives just got a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court, and at the local judicial level Americans judges are already so conservative that it’s infamously said that they “never see corruption”.
(In the United States “corruption”, much like “propaganda”, is something only found in other countries, of course.)
So if Democratic leadership (dominated by the Clintonista faction) is not corrupt than they surely are incompetent, no? Despite every cultural, political and financial advantage – truly an unprecedented situation – they might walk away with only decapitating the figurehead of Trumpism.
It’s a second consecutive enormous failure by whoever is planning Democratic Party strategy – they now have two black eyes, even if they oust Trump. That’s good news for the Sandernista faction, but their blacklist of Iranian media shows how fake-leftist they really are.
The American commentariat is admitting the major Democratic defeat, but it’s being currently obscured by the presidential vote debacle, which is turning out like we all expected: judges will decide and not voters.
The US, it must be remembered, has always been a lawyer-dominated system. That is what “rule of law” really means in the West: domination by aristocratic lawyers, as opposed to worker domination, God domination, vanguard party domination, elders domination and all the other available options. The outsider Trump threatened this domination, and thus the US political elite seemingly did all they could to ensure that the presidential vote would be disputed in order to ensure control by this societal sector which they came from, control and rewrite at will.
Kill a snake’s head and the snake dies, but 70+ million Trump voters are not snakes but humans
Putting aside the uncertain fate of Trump himself, the 2020 election results already objectively insist that main failure of Democrats was due to their insistence that Trumpism was merely a cult of personality.
This allowed them to not seriously evaluate the true democratic electability of their policies, personalities, principles and job performance: they refused to admit that Trump incarnated actual political ideas and that he genuinely reflected authentic some cultural ideas and trends. By failing to understand that Trumpism was a democratic force which must be accounted for, the electoral reckoning was emphatically anti-Democratic Paty in spite of their unprecedented advantages.
The Democrats chose to rely on sensationalistic fear-mongering: Trumpism was based on White supremacy; White militias are about to shoot up Main Street.
Oh really? I think they failed to understand that both of these hysterical assertions were always going to be easily provable no later than November 4, 2020:
So Trump’s increased 2020 vote totals in Black and Latino communities – they are White supremacists too? Of course not – there is something deeper than what Democrats claim. Since election day American cities are mostly ghost towns – maybe 1,000 anti-Trumpers marched in Chicago, even smaller numbers of pro-Trumpers rallied at voting booths, but the mainstream media warned for months that semi-automatic fire was actually going to be seen beyond the governmentally-abandoned African-American ghetto for the first time ever… so where is it?
This was always absurd, stupid, lazy, hysterical thinking, and it was exactly like what they did in France to their Yellow Vests, whom I covered more than probably any other reporter working in either English or French: accusing these movements of White supremacism and anti-Semitism was always a way to discredit and ultimately suppress the political analyses of the lower classes, and especially of those whom Americans descriptively call “White Trash”.
But Trump supporters are not all White nor does their poverty or lack of a vastly overrated college degree make them human “trash”; French Arabs supported the Yellow Vests as much as any other Frenchman. Sadly, this is all something the corporate media cannot allow to be said openly, so there is widespread misunderstanding.
We must ask why that is?
The answer lies in the domination of democratic structures in the West by their 1%. The backbone of the Western system is not lower-middle class mullahs, nor cobblers-turned-parlimentarians in Cuba, nor a communist party whose acceptance rate is on par with the American “Ivy League” of universities – the backbone of the Western system is exactly like shah-era Iran: a tiny coterie of a few dozen rich families, and then a small percentage of the population who are handed some of the wealth and stability produced by the toil of the nation’s masses in exchange for defending the few dozen gangster families.
And the backbone is also something else, which like “propaganda” and “corruption”, is never discussed in the US mainstream: duopoly. But this is the subject for Part Two – let’s wrap up the reality of Trumpism’s victory even amid a possible defeat by Trump.
Many of the newly-elected Republicans are widely called “Trumpian” – this does not mean they are parading around with gilt-framed pictures of The Donald but that they have adopted many of his policies, such as anti-globalisation, anti-censorship, economic patriotism, sovereignty and – crucially for the world – a reluctance for more endless imperialist wars.
The adjective “Trumpian” does imply negative policies: a hard line on immigration, a sinful and useless arrogance that America is the greatest country in the history of mankind (that is a direct quote – you hear it all the time in public over here) and a Red Scare-like hysteria against the socialist-inspired ideas of a strong central government and economic redistribution.
(What’s so telling about the US is that the word “socialism” is never uttered by their alleged left wing – even the Bernie Sanders-linked Democratic Socialists of America are so timid and so propagandised that they absurdly and incorrectly added the adjective “Democratic” in front of socialism. “Socialism” in the United States is a word only heard when hysterically screamed by the right-wing, and it is hysterically screamed by them all the time, I can report.)
But the election confirms that Trumpism is an ideology and not merely a one-time cult of personality.
Trump the man is unpleasant (to be polite) but that personal judgment is far, far less relevant than the cultural-political ideas it is now clear that he – for better or for worse – genuinely reflected and clearly fostered. My point here is not to condone nor condemn these cultural-political ideas – I am merely saying: there are genuine ideas here which are authentically championed by a very large part of the US public. It is bad journalism to ignore this and scream “White supremacism!”.
But the US media and chattering class is another huge election night loser along with the Democratic Party – both were totally wrong about a non-existent “Blue Wave” and the denial of Trump’s grassroots appeal.
Their only hope is Trump loses and they keep chattering uselessly about that to deflect attention from that submerged part of the iceberg which they got all wrong journalistically. All I can say as a journalist is: you get it wrong, you get demoted – you lose your twice-weekly editorial sport, you no longer are on the editorial board, etc. Back to the street for you. At least ideally.
Will there be consequences for getting it wrong for the failed Democratic elite or the US mainstream media? They have merited such reproachful dismissiveness that I’ll direct towards them only what I think is the laziest journalistic phrase: It remains to be seen.
Part Two will address how Trumpism related to the world’s most powerful and longest-running duopoly.
Ramin Mazaheri is currently covering the US elections. He is the chief correspondent in Paris for PressTV and has lived in France since 2009. He has been a daily newspaper reporter in the US, and has reported from Iran, Cuba, Egypt, Tunisia, South Korea and elsewhere. He is the author of ‘Socialism’s Ignored Success: Iranian Islamic Socialism’as well as ‘I’ll Ruin Everything You Are: Ending Western Propaganda on Red China’, which is also available in simplified and traditional Chinese.
Trump lost support in the “white male/rural retard” cohort.
Explanation: This is the cohort that the DNC thought was Trumps “base”. So measures were taken to neuter this.
They were unprepared for the support he had across all other cohorts.
Hence this scramble to find votes to fill the void.
Autists, staticitians (some are both) and associated other observers are calculating the audacious Biden steal in the days post Nov 3.
Belarus and Venezuela should be rolling on floor laughing. Oof
White Whale
There is little doubt that Democrats tried to rig the elections:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/05/press-prostitutes-make-fools-of-themselves-trying-to-cover-up-vote-fraud-for-democrats/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/05/press-prostitutes-make-fools-of-themselves-trying-to-cover-up-vote-fraud-for-democrats/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/04/a-stolen-election/
Another interesting link:
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/trap-set-dept-of-homeland-security-controlled-official-ballots-production-dems-print-extras-not-knowing-about-non-radioactive-isotope-watermarks-on-official-ballots/
And another interesting link:
https://humansarefree.com/2020/11/ballot-count-watcher-describes-at-least-130000-ballots-all-for-biden-arriving-in-detroit-at-4am.html
Eric and Donjr are twittering away… “where is the GOP” ? Thinking Republi-cons will come to save this stolen election.
But the GOP now has Senate, House and Supreme Court thanks to Trump. They don’t need him. I fact, one may wonder if this was part of a wider back room deal….
And they can all “deal”with Billion dollar Joe and his porn star son.
Ask Ukraine! Ask China.
Hunter Biden leak wasn’t an October Surprise against Biden, it was an advertisement *for* Biden. “Hey, we’re corrupt too! Now scheduling appointments.”
@White Whale – Dems still have the House, but GOP looking to keep Senate
Pelosi owns the voting machines.
Software guide.
http://resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/attach/LeaderPlus%205.0%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf
Votes can be changed by anyone within login credentials.
Their documentation confirms voter count can be manually entered.
Lol. The software is called Avid™️ and ISIS™️. Yep.
Avid Leader Plus can seamlessly output election reporting
https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2010-LeaderPlus-Avid-Technology-Product-Brochure-Avid-com-2010.pdf
Another poster:
Found the vote rig:
Program is Avid LeaderPlus.
They can force any result to be 51/49 if one is ahead by an amount from manual.
manual: http://resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/attach/Broadcast/LeaderPlusv601-ReadMe.pdf
It’s also been pointed out that the reason the pollsters are so wrong is that they categorize people by what is called their ‘identity’ … black, Hispanic, white, gay, etc.
When the issue of class is just as, if not more important. That is why, as noted in the article, blacks and Hispanics will vote for Trump, because Trump now represents the ‘working class’, and always has.
These so called elections are embarrassing circus and comedy.
And Deep State does not allow Trump to win again. Trump clearly won and now BIG THEFT is taking place.
America is banana state today.
For your comment to be valid list all those states where he won,including the ones that went the other way and why he failed to carry the states he carried in 2016.Its rather strange to hear people go on about how this one or that one won but yet offer nothing to back up those claims<!!!
“The Cote d’Ivoire calls on United States leaders to show commitment to the democratic process and the rule of law,” the Cote d’Ivoire embassy in Washington DC said in a statement on Wednesday, just as the presidential candidates in Cote d’Ivoire seem to be in a tense stand-off following presidential elections.”
Oops, my bad, the gremlins got to my cut-and-paste job there. Apologies.
Try transposing the words “Cote d’Ivoire” with “United States” and “Washington DC” with “Abidjan” and you’ll get the actual useful advice given to the Ivorians emanating from the embassy in Cote d’Ivoire of the greatest practitioner of democracy in the Universe. Rarely has the world seen such a display of humility combined with complete lack of hubris.
Backgrounder: The Ivorians actually just had a highly contested presidential election on 3 November and three days later the situation is rather tense, apparently with gunfire heard on the streets of Abidjan.
https://www.rt.com/usa/505638-us-ivory-coast-voting-democratic/
https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20201104-new-clashes-in-ivory-coast-us-and-un-call-for-dialogue
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Sorry about this digression from the excellent analysis in your essay, Ramin. I was totally transfixed on the battle of the geriatrics that I forgot to take a better look at the big picture. I look forward to part 2 of your essay.
Correct Ramin.
And it’s quite clear that that “Deplorable” anti-endless wars consciousness is not going away…..for many years…even if Donald Trump were to stop breathing this month or next.
For all of those that can swallow the idea that Joe Biden and the woman that put record numbers of blacks into prison slavery for small amounts of weed……………. received more votes in Detroit than Obama did (because that AND MORE was needed to steal the Red Lead) ………….you’ve never stopped watching cartoons.
MSM is for silly children like you.
Voter turnouts exceeding the registered voters by hundreds of thousands of votes.
It IS a cartoon and the cartoon characters need to be laughed at, not feared.
Utter, utter clown show.
All out on the table, now.
Look on the bright side! They are caught red-handed. Many will confess and turn on those that set them up to carry out the theft.
It’s not like this was not expected….and no countermeasures were taken.
You’ll see. It may take a while…but it’s coming. Hard.
Correct in your assertions but almost certainly wrong in your conclusions – again. The “clown show” is showing its utter contempt for the American sheeple, content in the knowledge that they own all the political and legal levers of the process that might be used to call them to account. To be sure, Trump will kick and scream all the way down and out, but it will change nothing. The ominous message they’re sending is not even primarily intended for him: it’s primarily directed at future would-be challengers (just as the preemptory dismissal of Sanders was), and even more directly, at the American Sheeple themselves. The message? Simply put: There Is No Alternative (TINA).
I wonder if TINA TURNER agrees. After all, “The “clown show” is is not the only one here showing “utter contempt for the American sheeple”. And for Tina herself.
I’m a corporate executive with a masters degree and make a good living. I find myself aligned with my so-called blue collared voters who side with Trump. Your article clearly points out that the dems are the party of the 1% or the Davos elites who feel they should run the world rather than elected sovereign governments. As a person, Trump is abrasive and poorly spoken. Many people, predominantly women, rank this deficiency over policy. That is unfortunate but the education system, media, Hollywood and Tech and been very successful controlling the narrative. In the end, it may not matter who is president. The western welfare state is bankrupt both morally and financially. Central Banks will soon make a play for CBDC to gain even greater control. In the end, I believe it will fail. Not sure where we end up. The empire is crumbling and I fear for my children’s future. Bring on the WEF great reset. If it makes it worse so be it. Time to rip off the bandaid.
You make some great points but I must quibble with a not so trival matter… I don’t know that bringing on the WEF great reset is a good idea. I fear this great reset is merely the prelude to total political control or totalitarianism. I never would have believed such a thing is possible and I regard historical attempts as hamfisted at best but I believe technological advances have made totalitarianism a very real possibility. I’m beginning to understand Huxley’s Brave New World,
“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.”
I will not be taking any universal income pay packets and I know dissenters will have basically two options: conform or rely on force (when necessary) and desimination of information to present and defend my views. Increasing censorship makes one of those options impossible.
@Pete.
>it does not matter who is US president.
Well, if you ask Qasem Soleimani…. he might posthumously agree. (And Putin has stated exactly this on several occasions)
But to The Swamp and Deep State it seems to matter a huge degree, as enormous resources and networks have been deployed to oust Trump both during his term and now, as reelection.
Trump, being the odious, narcissistic creature he is, has failed to build alliances to counter this.
China’s central bank is government owned and controlled, and will likely introduce CBDC as an efficient means of transacting business. However, the US central bank and the European Union central bank are privately owned. No one really knows exactly who the owners are or where they live, but they do have the wherewithal to reduce most of humanity to debt slavery.
This is why China is in the US gunsights and accused of currency manipulation.
Kapricorn4,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122176457130753313
If you fear for your childrens’ futures, make sure they learn to read, write, hear, and speak Russian or Mandarin. There are other places which will accept westerners, who know how to speak, and have (locally) valuable skills … and don’t act like american sailors on shore leave. You will also need to find paths and funds to send them to the Eurasian world.
Strange about the so called high court.the new addition never voted against the welfare of their corporations yet in fact the last case she voted on was the gig workers in tech. who sued to get their overtime pay, and she cast the deciding vote saying no you can’t have it, which is the way she voted on all the cases before her. The high court is no place for petty politics and that;s why judges should never be placed on that court it should be reserved for constitutional scholars.not tainted by politics.!!!
But the courts have relied on politics to do their private business for over a century, the old in public there is no political influence but in private we shake hands and agree its the right thing to do.
” … the backbone of the Western system is exactly like shah-era Iran: a tiny coterie of a few dozen rich families, and then a small percentage of the population who are handed some of the wealth and stability produced by the toil of the nation’s masses in exchange for defending the few dozen gangster families”. Yes, that is correct. However, what needs to be added is that these few dozen families have immense power and financial assets at their disposal, which created the present situation in the election, where the winner is still unknown.
By now it is quite clear that there was considerable vote rigging in Biden’s favor, as it’s impossible to believe that so many people, especially working class people, would have voted for neocon warmonger Biden. And yes, the lawyers will have the last word, but only because the few dozen families who control the US used their power to create such a situation.
The poor and working poor have crossed the threshold of the majority and thus as a group vote for the person who is most likely to give them a handout. Its a divided country, and this does not bode well for peace on the streets.
democracy: a system where the winner is the most skilled at engineering votes => a government whose primary means of action is shenanigans
‘We recognise Jaun Guaido/Maria Kolesnikova as the legitimate President of the USA…and urge all Nations to do likewise…the elections were fraudulant’. hah :)
Here is an interesting talk by Askia Muhammad with mentions of the Shah’s Iran.
https://youtu.be/NGT87Odx814
It’s presented by The Real News Network, out of Baltimore.
Wasn’t Rafsanjani one of the wealthiest people on earth because he skimmed off the top, of everything?
Expect to Trump to win and GOP win the House and prob Senate too.
Dems have been setup as disclosure was made today that ballots had secret watermark encoding on each that enable them to be audited for validity and who they were issued to and what happened to them. Fraudulent ones will get struck out.
Very glad to hear of this ballot control mechanism.
Katherine
“Trumpism was based on White supremacy”
Nonsense. White male voters reduced their vote for Trump. However, all other voters – white women, blacks, hispanics and others increased their voting for Trump. Look at the numbers Mr Mazaheri.
It is now patently clear that a great deal of the postal votes were illegal – and almost totally in favour of Biden. That is mathematically impossible. Like flipping a coin 100,000 times and getting 99,000 heads.
Those censoring everything – Bill Gates and friends – think that the police, national guard and army will do their bidding and just follow orders. We will see.
You did not understand this”
“The Democrats chose to rely on sensationalistic fear-mongering: Trumpism was based on White supremacy; White militias are about to shoot up Main Street.”
What you claim is totally out of keeping with the rest of the article, so I guess you didn’t understand that either.
You also seem like a rabid anti-socialist.
Perhaps it takes a real socialist like the author to take the fake ones to task. You raised many good points, sad we never see articles like this in the MSM.
“we never see articles like this in the MSM”
I entirely agree. But the author does not seem to realize that those behind this coup are the Deep State. They are Socialists like the author who want to control everyone so that they always remain on top.
It is rather sad to see that the freedom of choice has so little value for these people. They always know best and will never leave the Plebs get on with it and have quiet and comfortable lives.
“we never see articles like this in the MSM”
I entirely agree. But the author does not seem to realize that those behind this coup are the Deep State. They are Socialists like the author. They want to control everyone so that they always remain on top.
It is rather sad to see that the freedom of choice has so little value for these people. They always know best and will never let the Plebs get on with it and have quiet and comfortable lives. They must meddle.
Almost every educated Iranian would go to the USA given half a chance. And they would never live in an area that is predominantly black. They consider themselves whites and they know that the blacks are dangerous and primitive people. Furthermore, there is no country on this earth that is more racist than the Iranians. There are zero blacks of African origin in Iran. If you like these people so much Mr Mazaheri, why not invite them to Iran?
The article reeks of hypocrisy – but that is what Socialism is all about. What is mine is mine and what is yours is also mine.
“Almost every educated Iranian would go to the USA given half a chance.”
It’s a good thing you said ‘almost’, mate. I would absolutely not go to the USA to live there, even though I have heaps of family there. The fact that you had to say ‘almost’ means that your argument is weak, in my opinion.
Then you go on to say there are no African black people in Iran. You are incorrect. A quick Google search could have cleared it up for you. The original natives of Iran’s southern coast were Africans, and the descendents of those people are still living in Iran. They are fully African, mind you, and not just dark skinned Iranians. They are just normal people; they have not been driven to violence and crime through centuries of oppression.
Iranians come in all shapes and sizes, Alfred. There are Iranians who you would not distinguish from Mongolians and Tibetans, and then there are those that are very tall and have blonde hair, blue eyes and ruddy complexion. There are Iranians that look like Africans; fizzy afros, big lips and dark black skin, and there are Iranians who look like South Indians. And there are Iranians who have light skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair. There are even gingers in Iran.
There is no racial discrimination in Iran, as far as I can see. You slander Iranians baselessly, and discredit yourself in the process.
My next point of contention is your claim that the “Deep State” are socialists. If by deep state you mean the people running the show in the US, then you are referring to the Zionist elite, who are certainly not socialists. If by deep state you are talking about some nonsense that the media has recently invented to mislead people, then sure, they are socialists. Communists even. Or maybe they are aliens, Alfred!
Jamshyd, “original native” is the wrong term, as Black Africans are not indigenous to Iran. They are mostly descended from sub-Saharan African slaves first brought to Southern Iran (primarily Hormozgan and Bushehr, which are the two major centers of Afro-Iranian peoples) by the Portuguese during the Safavid era when they were leasing the Persian Gulf ports, and who were later freed by the Safavid monarchs and allowed to settle there. Later, the Qajars allowed the British to bring plenty of African slaves to work in the various Persian Gulf islands, but they were all gradually freed by local authorities under guidance of Shia clergy in the years leading up to the time 1906 Constitutional Revolution, which outlawed slavery permanently. The British were naturally very upset. These behaviors of the British and their constant interference in imposing themselves upon Iranian society were what ultimately drove Reza Shah to overthrow the Qajars, ironically with the support of the clergy that he would later suppress.
There aren’t very many English-language sources on Afro-Iranian history, and most of them are written from a Western-British-Zionist anti-Iranian bias, and Western universities and academics deliberately avoid translating Persian-language works that are based on primary Iranian sources and anthropological studies for obvious reasons.
But, you are absolutely correct that Iranians come in all shades and types, from Nordic, Mediterranean, Alpine, Mongolian, African. Most Americans are unaware just how ethnically and racially diverse Iran is, and Russia too for that matter. Many simply cannot fathom that countries like Iran and Russia are home to many, many dozens of ethnic and racial groups. Their whole worldview is built upon stereotypes programmed into them by the Zionist mass media entertainment-propaganda complex. They are so thoroughly Hollywoodized that they aren’t even aware of their cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias.
They just don’t get it.
I’m sure you’re right, mate. But apparently there is some kind of evidence that a very long time ago a migration-diffusion occurred beginning somewhere in Africa, along the south coast of Iran, through India to Southeast Asia, Papua New Guinea, and eventually Australia.
At its peak, the geographical area of these people stretched from Madagascar and the East Coast of Africa, along the South Asian coastline, all the way to Australia, but not as far as New Zealand; the native New Zealanders apparently came from another direction.
Eventually, these people were displaced in some places, while in other places they seemingly intermixed with other peoples. I believe the South of India may be a place where intermarriage happened, whereas in Southeast Asia, they were almost fully displaced, except for some isolated remnants like the indigenous black people of the Malaysian rainforest.
This population group may have been the first people to live in Iran, but they were restricted to the Southern Coastal lowlands, where they would mainly fish and hunt.
The founders of the Elamite Civilization may have been these black people. Maybe the Indus Valley Civilization too.
I always assumed that the black people in the south of Iran were natives, because they are restricted to the southern coastal lowlands, and because as you move away from Africa and towards Asia, the populations become of an intermixed type, like Pakistan-India.
Jamshyd, you should have been seen the editorial wars on Wikipedia circa 2005 to 2007 between the Iranian and pro-Iranian editors (some of whom were Russian and Greek) and the anti-Iranians (British, Americans, Germans, and pan-Arab nationalist) regarding the origin of the Elamites.
Some British and European academics (none of whom ever spent any time in the region) push the narrative that Elamites were of African or even Dravidian origin and migrated to Mesopotamia and eventually settled the highlands of Khuzestan. This is a nonsense theory based entirely on speculation regarding the Elamite language. There is zero evidence for any African migration to Iran, nor is there a single shred of evidence to suggest Dravidian origin of Elamites. It is all 100% speculation.
There is obviously a political dimension to this nonsense. These British and European Orientalists treat their speculations as fact and they’ve roped a few gullible Americans into their shenanigans. They are mentally ill. These are the same people who promote the myth of “Ahwazi Arabs.”
Arab nationalists speculate that Elamites are ancestors of indigenous Mesopotamian Arabs like the Marsh Arabs and related Arab peoples of southern Iraq and southern Khuzestan. Again, this is based on total speculation.
The fact is that no one knows anything about the origins of the Elamites other than that they were not related to any other peoples and that they were most likely indigenous to the region and did not migrate from anywhere else. Their language is what is known as an “isolate” like the Basque people in Spain and France. Elamite is not related to any other language.
Most people would be surprised to learn that the history of the Persian Empire actually begins with the Elamites, as they provided the original court traditions and political infrastructure of the early Achaemenids. The idea of Persia is born in Khuzestan and it makes sense that the British and Zionists have been so obsessed with dominating the Persian Gulf and southern Iran.
I recommend the Encyclopedia Iranica article on Elam which tends to avoid speculation and sticks to the facts: https://iranicaonline.org/articles/elam-index
Regarding Elam, it is all speculation, as you rightly say. But the migration route is an established fact. The people in question could have arrived in Iran as early as 100,000 BC.
Joseph Campbell has done some work demonstrating shared mythologies along this migration route, in his “primitive mythology” book. It is all very fascinating.
As for the Marsh Arabs and other Semitic people, they arrived in the Middle East no earlier than 4000 BC at the earliest. I am not referring to them here. Susa was already well established by 4000 BC, as were the Sumerian city-states. And while the languages of the Elamites and Sumerians were, according to the same British scientists who you dislike, language isolates as you say, the cuneiform script and many other aspects of Elamite Civilization appears to have been borrowed from the Sumerians.
Did you know that the Sumerian word for water was ab? As in ab-zu, literally deep water, the same word as abyss. Just like Persian ab.
And the Sumerian word ki, earth, as in Enki, lord of the earth, is the same word as Greek ge, earth, and Persian ja, from which is derived jahan, the earth, the counterpart of keihan, the cosmos.
We will probably never know the mystery of where the Sumerians and the Elamites came from. There is some speculation that the Sumerians came from the Sea. I have even heard it said that the earliest cities of the Sumerians are now at the bottom of the Persian Gulf, having been buried by a great torrent of water which bursted into the ancient low-lying valley at the end of the ice age when sea levels rose and broke through the mountain range whose broken remnants are around the strait of hormuz nowadays.
But there is a possibility that the Elamites, being natives of the area, were descendents of the African migration-diffusion whose other end reached Australia. 4000 BC is too early for white people to have arrived on the scene; they moved West onto the Iranian plateau after the fall of Bactria around 2000BC, where we have the Yaz culture appearing in Northeastern Iran ca. 1500 BC, whose defining characteristic is the lack of any graves or kurgans, in contrast to their predecessors in Bactria-Margiana, which some have taken to mean that they were the first Zoroastrians, ie. Sky burials.
It is all very complicated and mysterious, and off-topic.
It’s actually not as off-topic as one would think. History always repeats itself and the mysteries and conflicts of the past continue to affect the present. The failure of the Trump administration in its foreign policy toward Iran was the fact that he surrounded himself with so-called “Iran experts” who actually knew nothing of ancient Iranian history, just as the Bush administration was filled with a bunch of know-nothings who couldn’t tell you anything about the history of Mesopotamia, let alone identify and differentiate between the Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians, and Elamites.
The British and European imperialists were always the opposite. They studied the ancient histories of every civilization they targeted. There is a reason why they are interested in distorting and manipulating the ancient history of Iran, as well as the history of the slave trade in the Persian Gulf, to fit their present-day agenda.
Wikipedia has been a major part of this agenda and disinformation campaign and it has become increasingly Orwellian, now with hundreds if not thousands of Zionist and Wahhabi hasbara volunteers, many drawn from the IDF, altering Wikipedia articles to fit their narrative and building up the propaganda campaign against Iran and her allies.
If you study the edit histories of Wikipedia articles related to Soleimani, the false accusations being leveled against him in a number of articles (going so far as to accuse him of being complicit in the murder of fellow Hezbollah comrades and other egregious lies) in the months prior to his murder, you’ll see what I’m talking about. But they don’t just stop at contemporary history articles. They go all the way back. They hate the Persian Empire and prehistory of Iran with a passion. They have a similar hatred for all things Russian and Slavic (and the anti-Slavic prejudice on Wikipedia is just as widespread and insane), but not to the same extent.
The Obama administration invested heavily in recruiting legitimate experts and historians into the various agencies of the US intelligence community, who ended up continually at odds with Hillary Clinton during her tenure in the administration.
Chuck Hagel was later brought in an attempt to correct Hillary’s catastrophic mistakes in Libya and Syria, and devise a better Iran strategy, based on all these experts. But for reasons that have never been made entirely clear, Obama and Biden royally screwed him over and forced him out.
Today, Kamala Harris is taking the lead on Eastern European/MENA issues and Iran and Russia policy in particular. She is not an idiot like the Trumpians. She is already recruiting academics and historians into her camp who are well versed in ancient Iranian history and prehistory.
Believe me, we are going to be hearing more about everything we’ve been discussing and how the Elamite issue is going to be used to forward “Ahwazi Arab” separatist mythology, just as we did during the years of the Bush administration. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start trotting out Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, and other Iranophobes again to push this lunatic narrative. They did it back in the 2000s and enough people fell for it, so why not now?
“President Kamala and the Elamites: How the Leader of the Free World Liberated the Ahwazi Arabs from 7000 Years of Aryanist Oppression.” (BTW, there are actually “Ahwazi” publications the promote this garbage using this very same language.)
Sounds like bad movie night. It’s too insane to take seriously. But the Christian Zionists take these things very seriously. Elam features prominently in the Bible and Evangelical eschatology (end of times prophecies.)
Expect to see similar insanities being lambasted against our Slavic friends by the Kamala gang and distortions of thousands of years of recorded Slavic history. The anti-Russian hysteria is going to go into overdrive like we have never seen before.
What is the story with the anti-Russian hysteria, in your opinion?
Is it the US/West’s reaction to the realization that Russia (and China) will be heading the Zionist New World Order? And after the West did all the heavy lifting for a long time, and they committed all the atrocities, and their hands are soaked in blood.. all so Russia and China could be brought forward with an untarnished image to rule the world; angels and saints as some here call them.
Or is the true story what many here seem to believe, which is that the Zionists only hold power in the West, and Russia and China have somehow managed to wrest themselves free and are going up against the Zionist West in what seems like a knockout victory where the Zionists did not even throw one punch because their cause is hopeless against such enormous power as Russia and China wield? This while the West is panicking and throwing around trade tarriffs and anti-Russian hysteria in their desperation.
I have listed the names of some Jewish Russian billionaires on this site before. I don’t know if you ever saw it. They control a decent chunk of the Russian economy, and some of them are openly dual Israeli citizens, very good friends with Netanyahu. How does their presence in Russia reflect on the question at hand, in your opinion?
I would very much like your opinion on this.
Surely, now I’ve gone off-topic.
P.S. Regarding our original discussion; ages ago, I read in the Bundahish (or some other book of the Avesta, I cannot recall), that after Taxma-Urupi (Tahmures) deev-band (binder of the devils) went up against the army of Ahriman and defeated them, Ahura Mazda brought about a light in the Western Sky, and bade the Aryans get in their ships and follow the light, wherewith they reached a virgin continent in the West, where Yima-Xshaeta (Jamshyd) the successor of Taxma-Urupi ruled over an age of plenty and prosperity which is known as Jamshyd’s paradise, and which lasted a thousand years, during which the people knew no sickness or evil and were very long-lived compared to the people of today, but was eventually ended by Azhi-Dahaka (Zahak.) Zahak was eventually defeated and bound by Thraetaona (Fereidun) with help from the angels. But it is foretold that he will break free at the end of the age of Hushidar-maah, when he will take the reigns of the world once again, as the antichrist, dajjal. Compare with Fenrir the wolf. And also, compare Gayomart (Gavmard) and Gavaevodata, with the myth of Ymir and Audumbla.
Jamshyd, I don’t know this site’s policy on posting email addresses, and I don’t want to promote my websites or social media or anything, so if you can get my email from the mods (hopefully this is possible) that would be the best way to continue this discussion. I don’t get a chance to check this site as regularly as I’d like and the recent and continual slandering against Gen. Soleimani, who I consider to be a genuinely holy man who helped save the world (including the ungrateful Western regimes) from the scourge of ISIS and who has done more than anyone to defend and protect Iran from existential threats, from certain commenters has made me want to take a step back a bit from the discourse here.
They are free to slander and smear Gen. Soleimani with the most heinous and egregious of lies, but I don’t have to read it and I don’t feel like responding to that garbage anymore.
Note from Moderator: Jamsyhyd can email his address to saker-webmaster@yandex.com and I will then forward Final Conflicts email address to him.
Africans, Arabs, and just about every peoples, were perfectly capable of moving around before the Portuguese and British learned to build anything more comfortable than a dugout canoe. It just just took longer. But they had millenia.
Oh, I will remain a socialist despite these insults. After all the Iranian system has produced a tough, spirited, and relatively equal society. But does Ramin understand that this huge electoral fraud has made it much more likely that his beloved country will get bombed? and he is happy about it?
Alfred you are wrong over and over:
“I entirely agree. But the author does not seem to realize that those behind this coup are the Deep State. They are Socialists like the author. They want to control everyone so that they always remain on top.”
So the Deep State is full of socialists – the same Deep State that fought the Cold War for decades? They were just making things difficult for socialists for fun, is that it? Nonsense.
“Trumpism not merely a cult”, no perhaps not, cults are however, capable of engendering a large following , and when they do so, it might be erring on the side of caution to define them as merely a cult, unless one chooses to be cynical, as power in influencing huge number’s of people is capable of wielding tremendous influence, not permanent of course, but substantial. The point is to evaluate the current status of a possible cult. Could it ever, if there is one, conceivably to yours or anyone’s mind, favorably change direction ?
There’s a war on between those who wish to dislodge Trump for ever, but can’t think seriously about Biden, and the handful who have a broader perspective, and are capable of discussing real ideas, serious thoughts for the future, rather than dead end questions of personality and doom. Who can seriously imagine Joe Biden having a conversation with Vladimir Putin anyway ?
“Putting aside the uncertain fate of Trump himself, the 2020 election results already objectively insist that main failure of Democrats was due to their insistence that Trumpism was merely a cult of personality.”
Interesting point. I see Trump as the old Spanish conquistadores or adelantados who probed and charted new territory so those coming behind would reap the benefits for the crown (and themselves…).
I suspect that the core beliefs and policies adopted by Trumpland (a way to say D.J. Trump and its surrounding cohort) will be picked up by a more subtle leader. Subtle in terms of not being a gossly provocative figure but a kind of suave fascist-nationalist leader that will inherit that Trumpland and avoid many mainstream media attacks. A kind of Bannon with better luck, perhaps a bit less lunatic. A disastrous Dem presidency would help that person, too, since Obama didn’t had to endure a Lehman Bros tragedy.
The only big hurdle will be the personal wealth of such individual, since Americans only believe rich people to grant them leadership. After all, Trump was elected partly because of being a celebrity and having deep pockets.
A Bannon with better luck, a not always so subtle conquistador forging futures, not always very popular. It’s all envy and ambition only, but the petty concerns of the small mind fade away in the fullness of time, no blemish remaining from their fascistic mortifying attacks and derision. As for if there’s any truth at all in Cultic Trumpism, that remains to be seen.
But when we got his tax records we found that that was also a lie. He has no Deep Pockets. He simply overcharges everything and the Gov bails him out. 3 times now, so far. He acheived Too Big to Fail status. And he pays no income tax as part of the deal. And all the while his hysterical zealots are paying up to 30 % income tax. It truly seems like mental illness, cult style.
But that’s what rich people do – get bailed out, get loans. Poor people don’t.
Trump has deep, deep pockets and reach, unlike his followers.
Well balanced and unbiased article about USA politics. Although he was hard to like at times, and although the Established politicians an both sides were against him, President Trump showed the world what a businessman could accomplish as leader of a great nation.
This is just an observation
We had Bush who started 2 wars killed a million Iraqis
We had Obama who started 5 wars including Libya and Ukraine
Yet people are concerned about Trump being vulgar ?
Seems that with the right presentation you can get away with all sorts of evil acts
Biden who has reinvented himself as “uncle joe” was involved and supported all these wars which killed black and brown people for no real reason.
More evil is coming with Biden and Kamala who was happy to jail poor black women if their kids played truant
But as long as they smile while doing it – no one will criticise just like Obama
James2 I couldn’t agree with you more.
Trump managed to turn Dim minds to mush so that they became incapable of discussing any idea, any policy, any political or social or philosophical issue.
Just “hate orange man.”
Who really are the orangutans in this picture?
Katherine
My two kopeks are here.
While mostly factual this sounds like RW angst. Because I’m pretty sure Dems won’t see it as disaster. The ludicrous claims of voter fraud are utterly deranged. Given that there would be Zero Repub presidents without their egregious Jerrymandering, it’s more logical they’d be using voter fraud. I’m surprised we haven’t seen False Flag voter fraud since that’s the only chance the Cheeto has. As for RW angst, nothing’s going to beat Chuck Norris’s 1000 years of darkness video. So far.
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The results for Democrats are so bad they’re talking about actually deposing Pelosi, so anyone would say that indicates disaster – a change in leadership is a big deal.
Thus far, this is the best observation of the current socio-political situation in the US, and one of your finest reports overall I’ve read.
You correctly indicate that what the ruling establishment fears most is what the co-opted, PC “left” calls a “red/brown convergence;” wherein traditionally described liberals and conservatives focus on points of agreement, rather than divisive non-issues (Ralph Nader has advocated this for years, but nothing frightens despots more than popular unity, right?).
Once again, an excellent report. Bravo, et merci bien, monsieur.
Sleepy Joe can forget it all. Their Election Fraud is about to become publicized, with proof.
Mr Trump is the re-elected president of The United States of America 2020 Elections.
Joe can go on sleeping as long as it is possible.
Preparations are made to arrest the whole lot of deceivers.
http://finalwakeupcall.info/en/2020/11/06/deep-state-dnc-election-fraud-uncovered/