“A momentary lapse of reason”? Or “The final cut” to tear down “The wall”? I hope RW be the first of others legends using at last their influence to shift “The division bell” and speak about those “Animals” who wants to “Atom heart mother”. We don’t want to explode and see “The dark side of the moon”! RW, these times are interesting: “Wish you were here”.
…seriously, considering his influence expecially for >40 y.o. mid to high culture, and the type of contracts these charismatic people have, this is a new way to talk to the masses of Anglosphere. Something is changing in MS narrative: definitely I think it is not another rainbow-driven movement…
Roger Waters was always completely different from Bono.
For one thing, a different era. Pink Floyd came out of London in the 60’s. A unique time.
Try listening to the Pink Floyd album after they did the wall. Its called “The Final Cut”. You can find it on youtub or other places I’m sure. Probably haven’t heard much of it on radio, as its not a clear channel type of message. But it will remind you that Roger Waters hasn’t changed much over the years. That’s the more authentic person from the 60’s movements who somehow became a celebrity, as opposed to the manufactured celebrities like Bono, Clooney and Jolie.
Pink Floyd have already given us the formula for changing the world for the better. In their music it goes like this; “Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.” Pink Floyd fans have been busy creating the New Age Movement by doing precisely that. We did and it is working. Coming up bit by bit out of the underground. We called it “Star Wars” and it is the real solution for what you clearly see as psychopathology raised to absolute evil. In my view you are describing the cosmic movement of Satan. The solution to Satan is always the same. Deeper spiritual growth. I would argue that the most important line in any American movie comes from the movie Star Wars. Lord Vader reminds us “the ability to destroy a planet is nothing compared to the power of the Force.” May it be strong within all of us. It clearly is in Russia.
Nothing has been ridiculed at all. I just heard RW and agree with all he says. I just have a doubt that empathy is the solution for psychopaths who are today pulling strings behind the curtains with great strength. Psychopaths do not understand empathy. Being empathetic to psychopaths won’t work. All we need is to remove them from power AND change the whole power structure or it will attract new psychos. But as long as people are (in their majority) shit-scared, nothing can change just by willing it.
Snow Leopard mention spiritual growth. I fully agree. In fact, I tend to think that the Ancients had something right, that we are right now at the climax of the spiritual winter and a spring may come rather sooner than later. The information tools we are enjoying today can are ambivalent : they can simultaneously increase awareness and webs of lies, a typical manifestation of the ambivalence indeed of our nature. Depending on cosmic cycles and momentum, our condition is always biased toward one end of the spectrum, sometimes the good, sometimes the bad. The “extremization” of our current condition (the bad gets really bad, while the good does get even better), is a sign of transition, a bumpy ride that will end up in a new balance for a while.
Sorry… but I don’t agree with generalizations. Obviously, there were legends of music that played good messages and others sadly did the opposite. But RW and Pink Floyd never transmitted bad messages to the masses. For example “The wall”, behind the evident sociological look, is the personal story of RW (“Pink”) who lost his father in war, and describes his fear and paranoia to slowly fall in madness, alone, in a surrounding world totally uprooted from faith. In a world like this there will be only sadness and war. Remember also that RW saw the terrible effects of psychedelic acid and loneliness on his friend Syd Barrett.
The excesses of those years of New Age were IMHO a cruel side effect, a personal consequence of people that at last didn’t catch the warning messages buried inside the works of the more intelligent stars, like for example RW. I am only a moderate fan of Pink Floyd, except their masterpiece “The wall”, but I absolutely was not ‘busy to build a New Age world’: I am a Christian and the new age principles are incompatible with mine.
I think that messages transmitted by music are always more important than the music style itself. All types of music are powerful, and can reach a gigantic quantity of people, and can give people the energy and the good mantras to join in, but we always have to filter and choose the message translations following a moral coordinates system that is not peculiar and relative to our desires. Otherwise, like RW shows in the final of “The wall”, there will be only darkness, loneliness and nihilism.
I post here two examples trying to explain better: a young religious chorus and a good old-fashioned wall of Marshall with peaked VU-meters. Two generations and two totally opposite styles, but the message is the very same: the true hope doesn’t come from inside of man. As the message is positive, for me both clips are good music.
In my rear view mirror the sun is going down
Sinking behind bridges in the road
And I think of all the good things
That we have left undone
And I suffer premonitions
Confirm suspicions
Of the holocaust to come
The wire that holds the cork
That keeps the anger in
Gives way
And suddenly its day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset
Hmmmmmmmmm
Could be the human race is run
Like the moment when your brakes lock
And you slide toward the big truck
And stretch the frozen moments with your fear
And youll never hear their voices
And youll never see their faces
You have no recourse to the law anymore
And as the windshield melts
My tears evaporate
Leaving only charcoal to defend
Finally I understand
The feelings of the few
Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end
Roger Waters has always been a lighthouse of truth on a violent summer storm on the MSM against UK-US-Israeli invasiones in the world. Pink Floyd’s LP’s “The Final Cut” is an icon on British protest Rock n Roll against Margaret Thatcher’s war against Argentina for the Falkland rocky islands on Argentinian soil. Waters is a real pacifist singing to the peace and exposing western viscious invasions to defenseless third world countries all around the world.
Opposite to ladyboy’s U2 Bono, singing for “peace” while dining with the war lords of the world, Waters is a monument to the purest soul of rock n roll; “make love, not war”.
I’ve seen his thrice in concert, he goes from the great to the magnificent finishing his gigs as only the masters can do.
Bus stop rat bag
Ha, ha, charade you are
You fu..ed up old hag
Ha, ha, charade you are
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
You’re nearly a good laugh
Almost worth a quick grin
You like the feel of steel
You’re hot stuff with a hatpin
And good fun with a hand gun
You’re nearly a laugh
You’re nearly a laugh
But you’re really a cry
One of his less known works, “The Pros and Cons of Hitchhicking”, is a real anthem to the good taste in music. Indeed, in the company of Eric Clapton. Wow, that was music!
Personally, I always considered him to be the best song lyricist of all times. He is truthful, not narcissistic (like David Gilmour), definitely a genius and putting his fame to good use. In one of the radio interviews he stated that threats are plentiful and when he placed Jewish stars on the bombs that were falling in one of his videos the defamation league got heavily involved…
He can “still get a gig” because his songs continue to be hugely popular. The songs often have political elements to them (c.f. “Pigs”) that interest and move people. All ages come to stadium shows which sell out. How many acts can (year in/out) fill an arena anymore? To create and tour such spectacles costs lots of money, but big returns are created. Therefore, someone, somewhere, will buck the music mob and give Roger a venue.
Roger Waters: one of my eternal champeons and heroes!
Thank you again, Roger! Speak for us, Roger, you’ve got a big microphone (unlike most of us): say it loud and clear, you are the gentile people’s voice!!!
They were always the very best. Took nerves of steel to persevere as the crowd cheered inappropriately but he stuck too it and made his point. No offense but wake the f… (edited,MOD) up! Ah hearkens my soul to know not everyone has there head in the sand.
In the “rock stars with a conscience” field, honorable mention goes to Brian May of Queen, who let RT interview him, showing real courage. And Jimmy Page laid a wreath of flowers at Hiroshima. Help me out here, ’cause after that the list starts to get short.
NetFlix, the Oscars, and Angelina Jolie are not pleased that Waters is questioning the humanitarian jihadist organization, White Helmets, which has been fawned over by America and the West in general.
Anyone who questions the White Helmets or “human rights wars” like Waters does is guilty of a Thought Crime!
Emails reveal White Helmets tried to lobby ex-Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters
Emails have emerged revealing how the controversial Syrian activist group, the White Helmets, tried to lobby Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters with Saudi money. The revelations have been published on Max Blumenthal’s project.
In an email from October 2016 Roger Waters is being invited to a fundraiser organised by Saudi billionaire Hani Farsi – to honour the work of White helmets. In it, he’s also being encouraged to watch a documentary about the group.
And it didn’t stop there – just days before his recent concert in Barcelona Waters was contacted by a French journalist working for the White Helmets. The reporter was asking Waters for a few moments on stage – to deliver a message to the children of Syria.
Waters declined both the requests, and instead publicly denounced the White Helmets at the concert.
RT did an interview with him. Waters praised Lavrov, which is more than I’ve heard from Richards, Jagger, McCartney, Starr, or Ray Davies, to name a famous and talented few.
God bless this wonderful and courageous madman. You can only imagine the threats he receives for this testimony.
Waters roks. The audience thought so, as well. Very heartening.
The concert is in Barcelona. That’s Catalonia. Probably a very activist crowd now days. And of course, Barcelona has a history of that.
“A momentary lapse of reason”? Or “The final cut” to tear down “The wall”? I hope RW be the first of others legends using at last their influence to shift “The division bell” and speak about those “Animals” who wants to “Atom heart mother”. We don’t want to explode and see “The dark side of the moon”! RW, these times are interesting: “Wish you were here”.
…seriously, considering his influence expecially for >40 y.o. mid to high culture, and the type of contracts these charismatic people have, this is a new way to talk to the masses of Anglosphere. Something is changing in MS narrative: definitely I think it is not another rainbow-driven movement…
Yes, and it’s especially refreshing after previous propaganda campaigns led by the pompous asses of Bono of U2, George Clooney and Angelina Jolie!
Roger Waters was always completely different from Bono.
For one thing, a different era. Pink Floyd came out of London in the 60’s. A unique time.
Try listening to the Pink Floyd album after they did the wall. Its called “The Final Cut”. You can find it on youtub or other places I’m sure. Probably haven’t heard much of it on radio, as its not a clear channel type of message. But it will remind you that Roger Waters hasn’t changed much over the years. That’s the more authentic person from the 60’s movements who somehow became a celebrity, as opposed to the manufactured celebrities like Bono, Clooney and Jolie.
Well spoken sir. Now if only it could change something for the better, when what you have before you is psychopathy elevated to absolute evil.
Well said Thorgal
Pink Floyd have already given us the formula for changing the world for the better. In their music it goes like this; “Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.” Pink Floyd fans have been busy creating the New Age Movement by doing precisely that. We did and it is working. Coming up bit by bit out of the underground. We called it “Star Wars” and it is the real solution for what you clearly see as psychopathology raised to absolute evil. In my view you are describing the cosmic movement of Satan. The solution to Satan is always the same. Deeper spiritual growth. I would argue that the most important line in any American movie comes from the movie Star Wars. Lord Vader reminds us “the ability to destroy a planet is nothing compared to the power of the Force.” May it be strong within all of us. It clearly is in Russia.
Don’t ridicule anyone’s good attempts, please.
What do you have in mind to do yourself, in order to avert WW-3?
@Hans
(Who are you addressing ?)
Nothing has been ridiculed at all. I just heard RW and agree with all he says. I just have a doubt that empathy is the solution for psychopaths who are today pulling strings behind the curtains with great strength. Psychopaths do not understand empathy. Being empathetic to psychopaths won’t work. All we need is to remove them from power AND change the whole power structure or it will attract new psychos. But as long as people are (in their majority) shit-scared, nothing can change just by willing it.
Snow Leopard mention spiritual growth. I fully agree. In fact, I tend to think that the Ancients had something right, that we are right now at the climax of the spiritual winter and a spring may come rather sooner than later. The information tools we are enjoying today can are ambivalent : they can simultaneously increase awareness and webs of lies, a typical manifestation of the ambivalence indeed of our nature. Depending on cosmic cycles and momentum, our condition is always biased toward one end of the spectrum, sometimes the good, sometimes the bad. The “extremization” of our current condition (the bad gets really bad, while the good does get even better), is a sign of transition, a bumpy ride that will end up in a new balance for a while.
Thorgal? Thorgal Aegirsson?!
@BOPOH
Yeah, that’s me, at least an incarnation of his spirit :)
@Thorgal
@Snow Leopard
Sorry… but I don’t agree with generalizations. Obviously, there were legends of music that played good messages and others sadly did the opposite. But RW and Pink Floyd never transmitted bad messages to the masses. For example “The wall”, behind the evident sociological look, is the personal story of RW (“Pink”) who lost his father in war, and describes his fear and paranoia to slowly fall in madness, alone, in a surrounding world totally uprooted from faith. In a world like this there will be only sadness and war. Remember also that RW saw the terrible effects of psychedelic acid and loneliness on his friend Syd Barrett.
The excesses of those years of New Age were IMHO a cruel side effect, a personal consequence of people that at last didn’t catch the warning messages buried inside the works of the more intelligent stars, like for example RW. I am only a moderate fan of Pink Floyd, except their masterpiece “The wall”, but I absolutely was not ‘busy to build a New Age world’: I am a Christian and the new age principles are incompatible with mine.
I think that messages transmitted by music are always more important than the music style itself. All types of music are powerful, and can reach a gigantic quantity of people, and can give people the energy and the good mantras to join in, but we always have to filter and choose the message translations following a moral coordinates system that is not peculiar and relative to our desires. Otherwise, like RW shows in the final of “The wall”, there will be only darkness, loneliness and nihilism.
I post here two examples trying to explain better: a young religious chorus and a good old-fashioned wall of Marshall with peaked VU-meters. Two generations and two totally opposite styles, but the message is the very same: the true hope doesn’t come from inside of man. As the message is positive, for me both clips are good music.
* In Christ alone (BYU chorus vocal point):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQCpxt0XRoc
* Here I go again (Whitesnake):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoF51thz4A
[BTW: for oldies still seeking for energy to try to change the world… hold on, in this clip David Coverdale is almost 60 y.o.!]
In my rear view mirror the sun is going down
Sinking behind bridges in the road
And I think of all the good things
That we have left undone
And I suffer premonitions
Confirm suspicions
Of the holocaust to come
The wire that holds the cork
That keeps the anger in
Gives way
And suddenly its day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset
Hmmmmmmmmm
Could be the human race is run
Like the moment when your brakes lock
And you slide toward the big truck
And stretch the frozen moments with your fear
And youll never hear their voices
And youll never see their faces
You have no recourse to the law anymore
And as the windshield melts
My tears evaporate
Leaving only charcoal to defend
Finally I understand
The feelings of the few
Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end
How beautiful Mike!
Thank you!
Thank you Roger Waters for telling the truth. God bless you!
PS. I wish Bob Dylan would come out and take a stand.
Dylans song “masters of war” resonated at the time. Could anyone write, sing, or have airplay to similar sentiments today. I very much doubt it.
Dylan was essentially banned from the airways after his conversion to Christianity.
Ah … you mean this guy:
Robert Allen Zimmerman … behold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd18am6dc0Y
hmm…that was a good link – then the next video was this one https://youtu.be/YBnEllMmbLg
that was good too – thanks.
Roger Waters has always been a lighthouse of truth on a violent summer storm on the MSM against UK-US-Israeli invasiones in the world. Pink Floyd’s LP’s “The Final Cut” is an icon on British protest Rock n Roll against Margaret Thatcher’s war against Argentina for the Falkland rocky islands on Argentinian soil. Waters is a real pacifist singing to the peace and exposing western viscious invasions to defenseless third world countries all around the world.
Opposite to ladyboy’s U2 Bono, singing for “peace” while dining with the war lords of the world, Waters is a monument to the purest soul of rock n roll; “make love, not war”.
I’ve seen his thrice in concert, he goes from the great to the magnificent finishing his gigs as only the masters can do.
Roger Water’s on Margaret Thatcher
Bus stop rat bag
Ha, ha, charade you are
You fu..ed up old hag
Ha, ha, charade you are
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
You’re nearly a good laugh
Almost worth a quick grin
You like the feel of steel
You’re hot stuff with a hatpin
And good fun with a hand gun
You’re nearly a laugh
You’re nearly a laugh
But you’re really a cry
One of his less known works, “The Pros and Cons of Hitchhicking”, is a real anthem to the good taste in music. Indeed, in the company of Eric Clapton. Wow, that was music!
I wish Waters was president and not Donald Trump, or a member of Congress, or … and on and on. Maybe Sanders will run in 2020.
All in all it’s just a-nother breach in the wall.
The ending ‘Wake up and smell the F**ing roses”! Good advice; pity more don’t listen and use the brains they were born with.
Personally, I always considered him to be the best song lyricist of all times. He is truthful, not narcissistic (like David Gilmour), definitely a genius and putting his fame to good use. In one of the radio interviews he stated that threats are plentiful and when he placed Jewish stars on the bombs that were falling in one of his videos the defamation league got heavily involved…
Keep shining the light Roger. You put so called ‘stars’ like Bono to shame.
I didn’t know that (about the Stars of David on bombs). That took real guts, I’m surprised he cab still get a gig.
He can “still get a gig” because his songs continue to be hugely popular. The songs often have political elements to them (c.f. “Pigs”) that interest and move people. All ages come to stadium shows which sell out. How many acts can (year in/out) fill an arena anymore? To create and tour such spectacles costs lots of money, but big returns are created. Therefore, someone, somewhere, will buck the music mob and give Roger a venue.
It seems morrisey gave it a go critizising status quoo too: https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/17/morrissey-denounces-halal-meat-as-evil-attacks-theresa-may-diane-abbott-sadiq-khan-isis-for-britain
good! at least some eyes never closed, and can help open others…
Roger Waters is a noble man. A scholar and a gentleman.
He is labeled as an ant-Semite by various western organizations and agencies. He is a big support of Palestinians and calls for justice for them.
Unlike some celebrities, like that Zionist blowjob George Clooney and various others, Roger Waters is on the right side of history.
Western celebrities are too chickenshit to stand up for whats right, unless of course its for causes that support western hegemony and deception.
The Jews who run Hollywood even gave an Oscar to these imbecilic White Helmets.
Roger Waters calls it like it is, and for that, I salute him. Besides, he’s one hell of a bass player.
Roger Waters: one of my eternal champeons and heroes!
Thank you again, Roger! Speak for us, Roger, you’ve got a big microphone (unlike most of us): say it loud and clear, you are the gentile people’s voice!!!
They were always the very best. Took nerves of steel to persevere as the crowd cheered inappropriately but he stuck too it and made his point. No offense but wake the f… (edited,MOD) up! Ah hearkens my soul to know not everyone has there head in the sand.
Waters has also been active in the BDS movement Boycott Divest Sanction – against you know who.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrcQ6xoHx0Q
While we are in the house of poet, artists and other minuscule giants facing the machines of war and lies, and their mouths of amnesia. A short animation from the “dice player”, by the immense poet Mahmoud Darwish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab5L8tg2pCo
https://www.vqronline.org/vqr-symposium/dice-player
May the Almighty, the Merciful bless you all, readers and contributors of the Saker.
Sorry, here is the correct link to the animated version of “The dice player”:
https://youtu.be/aehlMo644ZU
A wonderful piece, Arab Adighe, Thank you for sharing it.
And the animated calligraphy is so elegant and mesmerising.
“Mother will they try to break our balls?”
Apparently yes! Thanks for yet another courageous stance Roger Waters!
In the “rock stars with a conscience” field, honorable mention goes to Brian May of Queen, who let RT interview him, showing real courage. And Jimmy Page laid a wreath of flowers at Hiroshima. Help me out here, ’cause after that the list starts to get short.
Roger Waters is the greatest star in the entertainment industry – he’s more than that. He’s a hero…a working class hero
NetFlix, the Oscars, and Angelina Jolie are not pleased that Waters is questioning the humanitarian jihadist organization, White Helmets, which has been fawned over by America and the West in general.
Anyone who questions the White Helmets or “human rights wars” like Waters does is guilty of a Thought Crime!
“We don’t need no thought control….”
Also, check out Roger Water – Radio K.A.O.S.
Some very good lyrics and views on “The Powers That Be”.
And the chilling “Four Minutes”.
Roger Waters UN Address – Nov 29, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DrSPFYXUfQ&t=25s
Emails reveal White Helmets tried to lobby ex-Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters
Emails have emerged revealing how the controversial Syrian activist group, the White Helmets, tried to lobby Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters with Saudi money. The revelations have been published on Max Blumenthal’s project.
In an email from October 2016 Roger Waters is being invited to a fundraiser organised by Saudi billionaire Hani Farsi – to honour the work of White helmets. In it, he’s also being encouraged to watch a documentary about the group.
And it didn’t stop there – just days before his recent concert in Barcelona Waters was contacted by a French journalist working for the White Helmets. The reporter was asking Waters for a few moments on stage – to deliver a message to the children of Syria.
Waters declined both the requests, and instead publicly denounced the White Helmets at the concert.
[emails are included in a RT article]
https://www.rt.com/news/424553-pink-floyd-white-helmets-blumenthal/
Here’s my take on British involvement:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-british-are-driving-the-wests-war-agenda-but-why/5636776
Does anyone know if Waters has ever said one word against Obama and his liberal use of
Drones, his interventions in Libya or the US coup in Ukraine?
RT did an interview with him. Waters praised Lavrov, which is more than I’ve heard from Richards, Jagger, McCartney, Starr, or Ray Davies, to name a famous and talented few.