Roger Waters has signaled friendship to the Venezuelans. His small musical effort signals to the rest of humanity that Tyranny can be resisted and defied and defeated.
Venezuela must become a bulkhead against hegemony and regime change.
The sentiment of the video is a gentle as a heartbeat, and as profound as locked arms in the face of imminent threats.
I was personally quite shocked at the large number of keyboard & armchair warriors who wished to visit the specter of “humanitarian intervention” upon the Venezuelen people.
Back in 1999, when we were attacked, NATO had just invented the doctrine of humanitarian war, and there was no previous example to show exactly how it would work.
We are now 20 years later, several countries viciously destroyed, high quality blogs and alternative media to debunk the narrative..yet…the zombies still out there bleating about about how we need to “do something” about Maduro. I am no Maduro fan, but this was a depressing spectacle.. listening to Roger Waters gives me great comfort. Thank you so much!
Re “We are now 20 years later, several countries viciously destroyed, high quality blogs and alternative media to debunk the narrative..yet…the zombies still out there bleating about about how we need to “do something” about Maduro.”
It is this willful ignorance on the part of people who have access to good information that to me is especially infuriating. The complacency of the Very Well Educated that (1) they have not been propagandized, (2) they and the USA have the right to be the judge, jury, and executioner of sovereign states that do not toe the American line or that stand in the way of something the USA (stamping foot) *wants.*
Another point regarding this wilful ignorance: I have the feeling that so many putative “thought leaders” (by which I mean educated people who lead the way in broadening understanding of what is really driving policy beneath the surface) have been relying on the same old same old news outlets for so long that they haven’t been paying enough attention to alternavative news sources to be able to assess their worth. So, they actually don’t have enough confidence in to strike out on their own, go off the MSM reservation, and run the risk of being “wrong.” Of reading various analyses, comparing them, understanding the POV of different analysts, etc. (Just one reason why this site is so important.)
During the Iraq War run-up it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that the WMD thing was made up, that Bush was lying, that Colin Powell was lying, that Donald Rumsfeld and Cheney were lying, that Judith Miller at the NYT was lying.
Now, after it came out that they had indeed all been “wrong” (euphemism for lying) and there were no WMD in Iraq, people like me, who had been right all along, said: “So, you see, I was right that time. So, you know, I might be right this time, too. Why don’t you listen to what I say, and take seriously the sources that I am sending to you [via my tiny email list]?”
Oh, no! Having been right didn’t increase one’s cred by a jot. Because the suckers use the MSM narrative as an *excuse* for having been wrong!! E.g., “Well, the whole media and the CIA and everyone else were also taken in by the yellow cake story . . .” So they didn’t have to examine their thought processes and see whether they had been consuming lies when they had been offered better fare. Similar to “The Europeans are on board with the coup, so it can’t be wrong. That is going to be my position, too.” These narratives had the added advantage to our minders of providing instant excuses for not taking responsibility for doing one’s own thinking.
The need to be right, and to be seen as being right, is one of the most destructive ego needs there is. It is fine to be pleased to have been right. That is normal. Healthy ego. And, no one can be right all the time, so being right occasionally is rewarding. But to refuse to admit when one has been wrong, or to place more value on being right than on gaining a greater understanding of what is actually going on, to refuse to abandon an old paradigm, or a traditional info source, because it might expose one to having to do one’s own thinking and then one might end up wrong—this is bad ego. It just makes people more argumentative because they are defending not only an actual opinion, but also ego turf. The search for truth goes out the window.
I think this is the level of ego that underlies a lot of the *stubbornness* among US citizens—among educated people who read, who should be informing themselves and engaging in a genuine debate but instead are doubling down on another pile of lies and cliches that justify the USA “doing something” to some other country. I think many of them are afraid to be wrong and continue to be complacent about the “exceptionalist” positive role of the USA, even if being right means suddenly getting into bed with known criminals such as Bolton and Abrams.
An individual who has never been ashamed of advertising his un-false morality. I wish there were more.
The heart and soul of Pink Floyd, which suffered a lingering death after he left them.
Without wishing to seem like a sycophant, this man (along with Hawkwind) largely helped me define my morality.
The US intention of destroying the sovereignity of the state of Venezuala in order to steal their oil assets is unconscionable to anyone who has any kind of ‘proper’ principles (and that’s according to the charter of the United Nations).
But that’s the glorious US of A. To the US authorities, might equals right.
Excellent. This song was made famous be Pete Seeger, Joan Baez and others. I think it was originally wriiten and performed by Laurel Aitken, born in Cuba. However, it is entirely possible that the origins of this song (like many performed by Western Musicians) are very much older. The origins of a large percentage of Western Music eg Led Zeppelin, can be traced back to West Africa, via Black America.
Per wiki, written by Pete Seeger.
Actually, in the fifties and early sixties we did a lot of folk-singing at community sings (pre-Dylan; the older, lefty Seeger folksinging tradition), and we, or our parents, would take a good look at “Sing Out!” and see what new songs there were. By the time I reached high school it was a “classic” and it seemed like it had been around forever.
Roger Waters has signaled friendship to the Venezuelans. His small musical effort signals to the rest of humanity that Tyranny can be resisted and defied and defeated.
Venezuela must become a bulkhead against hegemony and regime change.
The sentiment of the video is a gentle as a heartbeat, and as profound as locked arms in the face of imminent threats.
We stand for sovereignty for Venezuela.
brings tears to my eyes – I love you Roger Waters
That was fantastic.
I was personally quite shocked at the large number of keyboard & armchair warriors who wished to visit the specter of “humanitarian intervention” upon the Venezuelen people.
Back in 1999, when we were attacked, NATO had just invented the doctrine of humanitarian war, and there was no previous example to show exactly how it would work.
We are now 20 years later, several countries viciously destroyed, high quality blogs and alternative media to debunk the narrative..yet…the zombies still out there bleating about about how we need to “do something” about Maduro. I am no Maduro fan, but this was a depressing spectacle.. listening to Roger Waters gives me great comfort. Thank you so much!
Agree.
Re “We are now 20 years later, several countries viciously destroyed, high quality blogs and alternative media to debunk the narrative..yet…the zombies still out there bleating about about how we need to “do something” about Maduro.”
It is this willful ignorance on the part of people who have access to good information that to me is especially infuriating. The complacency of the Very Well Educated that (1) they have not been propagandized, (2) they and the USA have the right to be the judge, jury, and executioner of sovereign states that do not toe the American line or that stand in the way of something the USA (stamping foot) *wants.*
Another point regarding this wilful ignorance: I have the feeling that so many putative “thought leaders” (by which I mean educated people who lead the way in broadening understanding of what is really driving policy beneath the surface) have been relying on the same old same old news outlets for so long that they haven’t been paying enough attention to alternavative news sources to be able to assess their worth. So, they actually don’t have enough confidence in to strike out on their own, go off the MSM reservation, and run the risk of being “wrong.” Of reading various analyses, comparing them, understanding the POV of different analysts, etc. (Just one reason why this site is so important.)
During the Iraq War run-up it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that the WMD thing was made up, that Bush was lying, that Colin Powell was lying, that Donald Rumsfeld and Cheney were lying, that Judith Miller at the NYT was lying.
Now, after it came out that they had indeed all been “wrong” (euphemism for lying) and there were no WMD in Iraq, people like me, who had been right all along, said: “So, you see, I was right that time. So, you know, I might be right this time, too. Why don’t you listen to what I say, and take seriously the sources that I am sending to you [via my tiny email list]?”
Oh, no! Having been right didn’t increase one’s cred by a jot. Because the suckers use the MSM narrative as an *excuse* for having been wrong!! E.g., “Well, the whole media and the CIA and everyone else were also taken in by the yellow cake story . . .” So they didn’t have to examine their thought processes and see whether they had been consuming lies when they had been offered better fare. Similar to “The Europeans are on board with the coup, so it can’t be wrong. That is going to be my position, too.” These narratives had the added advantage to our minders of providing instant excuses for not taking responsibility for doing one’s own thinking.
The need to be right, and to be seen as being right, is one of the most destructive ego needs there is. It is fine to be pleased to have been right. That is normal. Healthy ego. And, no one can be right all the time, so being right occasionally is rewarding. But to refuse to admit when one has been wrong, or to place more value on being right than on gaining a greater understanding of what is actually going on, to refuse to abandon an old paradigm, or a traditional info source, because it might expose one to having to do one’s own thinking and then one might end up wrong—this is bad ego. It just makes people more argumentative because they are defending not only an actual opinion, but also ego turf. The search for truth goes out the window.
I think this is the level of ego that underlies a lot of the *stubbornness* among US citizens—among educated people who read, who should be informing themselves and engaging in a genuine debate but instead are doubling down on another pile of lies and cliches that justify the USA “doing something” to some other country. I think many of them are afraid to be wrong and continue to be complacent about the “exceptionalist” positive role of the USA, even if being right means suddenly getting into bed with known criminals such as Bolton and Abrams.
Katherine
I could not agree more. Thanks Katherine and Serbian girl.
An individual who has never been ashamed of advertising his un-false morality. I wish there were more.
The heart and soul of Pink Floyd, which suffered a lingering death after he left them.
Without wishing to seem like a sycophant, this man (along with Hawkwind) largely helped me define my morality.
The US intention of destroying the sovereignity of the state of Venezuala in order to steal their oil assets is unconscionable to anyone who has any kind of ‘proper’ principles (and that’s according to the charter of the United Nations).
But that’s the glorious US of A. To the US authorities, might equals right.
Excellent. This song was made famous be Pete Seeger, Joan Baez and others. I think it was originally wriiten and performed by Laurel Aitken, born in Cuba. However, it is entirely possible that the origins of this song (like many performed by Western Musicians) are very much older. The origins of a large percentage of Western Music eg Led Zeppelin, can be traced back to West Africa, via Black America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Aitken
Tony
Per wiki, written by Pete Seeger.
Actually, in the fifties and early sixties we did a lot of folk-singing at community sings (pre-Dylan; the older, lefty Seeger folksinging tradition), and we, or our parents, would take a good look at “Sing Out!” and see what new songs there were. By the time I reached high school it was a “classic” and it seemed like it had been around forever.
Interesting story behind its composition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Have_All_the_Flowers_Gone%3F
Katherine
In a way, Roger Waters continues Seeger’s legacy.
Katherine