Russian ambassador to the UN Vasily Nebenzea addressing the UN SC in regard to an alleged chemical attack in the suburban Damascus city of Douma.
Russian Envoy to the UN: US, UK and France push for World War III (full transcript)
Russian ambassador to the United Nations Vassily Nebenzia addressing the Security Council on April 9, 2018, in regard to an alleged chemical attack in the suburban Damascus city of Douma.
Text & Subtitles: unz.com/sayedhasan (from English live translation)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hm8o8
Transcript:
Thank you. If you believe it is a great pleasure for me to speak about the issue we will talk about now, and to make a statement, then you are mistaken. Unfortunately, the situation is such that I will have to say a great deal today, and it will be incumbent upon you to listen to what I have to say. We are grateful to Mr. De Mistura [Special Envoy of the Secretary-General on Syria] for his briefing as well as to Mr. [Thomas] Markran [Director and Deputy to the High Representative for Disarmament Affairs].
The Russian federation demanded for this meeting to be held on the agenda items, threats to international peace and security, insofar as we are deeply alarmed at the fact that in a number of capitals, above all Washington and those blindly following it, London and Paris, a deliberate policy was undertaken to stoke international tensions. The leadership of the United States, the United Kingdom and France, without any justification and without considering the consequences, have engaged in a confrontational policy against Russia and Syria and they are prompting others to follow suit. A broad arsenal of methods is being leveraged to slander and insult: hawkish rhetoric, blackmail, sanctions and threats to use force against a sovereign state.
Russia is being unpardonably threatened. The tone with which this is being done has gone beyond the threshold of what is acceptable, even during the Cold war. Such boorishness against my country is something your predecessors did not take the liberty to undertake. What is next? We remind a rhetorical question which our President put forward in 2015 from the UN General Assembly to our Western partners, above all the United States, concerning the reckless of their geopolitical experiments in the Middle East. “Do you understand now what you have done?” And the response at that time hung in the air.
But there is a response: no, you do not understand. Just as you fail to understand what you are doing now. The lack of a clear strategy on any issue is appalling not just to us, it confounds not only us, but it confounds the majority of those sitting here. But they have decided not to openly put this forward to you, following you everywhere you go, regardless of the fact that with everything you touch, chaos is left behind in the brackish waters from which you try to take out fish, something, but only mutant fish are being taken out. I will put forward another rhetorical question. Do you understand the dangerous threshold towards which you are bringing the world?
One of the areas where the hostility is most stark is Syria. The terrorists and extremists supported by external sponsors are enduring a defeat there. Let us recall that we are talking about those terrorists and extremists whom you supplied, financed, and deployed in a country to oust a legitimate government. Now it is clear why this is causing hysteria among those who invested political capital in these dark forces.
Recently, thanks to the efforts undertaken by Russia in line with the Security Council resolutions, a large-scale operation has been undertaken to lift the siege of Eastern Ghouta. Its residents, for a number of years, were forced to endure the mockery and torture of fighters. More than 150,000 civilians were evacuated from that Damascus suburb, completely voluntarily, with the requisite security conditions being provided. Tens of thousands of them have already been able to return to the liberated areas and many met with their relatives. There has been no change [or replacement of population]: this composition being shouted about by supporters of the Syrian opposition has not occurred. These are lies.
With the leaders of these armed groups, difficult negotiations took place. As a result, many of them left the areas they had occupied, with full respect for guarantees for their safety. Incidentally, during the transportation operations, several attempts were undertaken to stage terrorist attacks when the militants attempted to reach the buses with suicide belts. Others preferred to settle their status with the Syrian authorities. Thanks to Presidential amnesties, they will be able to return to civilian life, and subsequently, they may even enter the Syrian security forces. We are talking about implementation of a UN principle: demobilization, disarmament and reintegration.
However, this positive dynamic is not to the liking of some foreign sponsors through Western countries who are willing to take up any straw just to maintain a hotbed of terrorist resistance at a striking distance from the Syrian capital, so that the fighters can continue to terrorize ordinary civilians, to seize their food and to request from the international community that humanitarian assistance be delivered. Incidentally, they were not prepared to share medicine with ordinary civilians – as was shown in the inspection of the stronghold left behind by the fighters. It was already the case in the past in Eastern Aleppo: improvised hospital facilities in basements were full of medicine which, as a result of sanctions – Western sanctions –, were not provided to Damascus and other government-controlled areas.
Also, large storage of [indistinct] were found as were the bodies and corpses of people who had been subjected to torture. We are stunned at the scale of the tunnels that were used by Jihadis. In some of them, small trucks were able to freely move about. These surprising underground facilities brought together the positions of groups who are viewed by some as moderate, and they were linked to the stronghold of the Al-Nosra Front.
On April 6, the new head of Jaysh al-Islam, following instructions of sponsors, derailed the evacuation of a party of fighters from Douma and resumed the rocket and mortar fire against residential areas in Damascus. The firing targeted [indistinct name of four areas]. According to official information, eight people died. 37 civilians were wounded. Unfortunately, we failed to see statements from Western capitals condemning the shelling of a historical district of Damascus. The following day, April 7, fighters accused the Syrian authorities of dropping barrel bombs with toxic substances. At the same time, diversions were being mixed up. It was either called sarin, chlorine, or a mix of toxic gases. Based on a well-known scheme, these rumors were immediately taken out by those who are financed by western capitalists; I am referring to NGOs and the White Helmets who are mendaciously acting under the cloak of health professionals. And these reports were also taken up and transferred to media outlets.
It behooves us once again to state that many of these dubious structures have a clear list of the email addresses of representatives of Security Council members, which shows that some of our colleagues, with a reckless approach towards their status, are leaking sensitive information to their protégés. Incidentally, all should recall the way that accidentally, the White Helmets put on the internet a video which showed preparations for staging a so-called victim of an alleged attack perpetrated by the Syrian army.
In 2011, the chemical serial began, and it continues to be shown to us with the calculation for each new episode to be more resonant than the one prior to it. In Washington, London, and Paris, immediate conclusions were drawn, pinning blame on the Syrian authorities, or as they call it, the Syrian regime. Has nobody wondered why would Damascus need this? There were insults against the Syrian leadership. However, the main burden of responsibility was pinned on Russia and Iran. And I think this is hardly surprising to anybody at this point, but this was done immediately based on current trends, without any investigation being conducted.
On April 8, the Syrian troops sweeping through {Al-Shimona} near Douma found a homemade Jaysh al-Islam manufacturing area to manufacture chemical substances artisanally. Chlorine agents of German manufacture and special equipment were also discovered. In Istanbul, an opposition journalist, [indistinct name], put on his Twitter page a video allegedly from the area of the incident, probably from the White Helmets. An unknown individual is next to a handmade bomb with a chemical that allegedly struck the bedroom of a building in Douma. All of this was accompanied by comments about another attack by the regime against civilians. The staged nature of this action is something of which there is no doubt. The trajectory of the alleged bomb is unnatural. This bomb supposedly entered, piercing through a roof, and naturally, calmly, fell into a bed, without even damaging this bed. Can a bomb fall on a wooden bed without even damaging the wooden bed?! Clearly, it was placed there prior to preparation for the staging.
There’s an interesting sequence of events. The chemical provocation in Douma on Saturday, April 7, occurred immediately after the US delegation at the Security Council received instructions to convene for today, Monday, April 9, to convene expert level consultations on their draft resolution on the mechanism to investigate incidents with chemical weapons. The initial text today has far-reaching changes and revisions.
Under these obscure circumstances, we need of course to get to the bottom of what is taking place. However, we need to do so in an honest, objective, impartial way, without disregarding the principle of presumption of innocence, and by no means prejudging the outcome of the investigation. Despite provocations, Russian specialists continue their efforts to resolve the situation in Eastern Ghouta.
On the afternoon of Sunday, April 8, following a new agreement that was reached, the evacuation of Jaysh al-Islam fighters resumed. Following the liberation of Douma from fighters, Russian specialists on radiological, chemical and biological protection were sent there to collect evidence and information. They took soil samples which show the lack of any nerve agent or chlorine substances.
Locals were interviewed about the cessation of resistance to the fighters. Not a single local resident confirmed the chemical attack having taken place. In local hospitals, there were no reports about symptoms from a toxic substance such as chlorine. Other medical facilities are not located in Douma. The bodies of the dead as a result of contamination were not found. Medical personnel and residents have no information about their potential burial areas. Thereby, the use of sarin and chlorine is not confirmed. Incidentally, the representatives of the Syrian Red Crescent refuted the statement allegedly made on their behalf about a delivery of assistance to victims of toxic gas. I call upon those who will speak against me and slander the regime to proceed from the premise that there was no chemical weapons attack.
Sweden prepared a draft resolution to investigate the incident. In principle, in order to conduct an investigation, the OPCW needs no resolution. However, we are willing to consider this resolution. Today, we propose that what you envisage in your draft be done. Let the OPCW, who through the Director-general of the Technical Secretariat Mr. Üzümcü stated a willingness to get to the bottom of what took place, let it immediately tomorrow fly to Damascus. There, the Syrian authorities and Russian troops will provide conditions to travel to the area of the alleged incident for them to familiarize themselves with the situation. Incidentally, this is what President Trump and other Western leaders called on us to undertake.
As for the possibility of a chemical attack, this was repeatedly warned about by the Syrians at the Russian Center for the reconciliation of opposing sides. It was stated that in order to record on film a chemical attack, and I put this in quotes, “the necessary equipment has already been brought in.” We too made the relevant statements at the Security Council. You heard these warnings. You have heard them but deliberately ignore them insofar as they do not align with the doctrinal views of those who seek the elimination of a legitimate government in another Arabic country.
Still, what is not being looked into is the fact that a significant number of chemical weapons were discovered on November-December 2017 in Syrian territory that had been liberated from terrorists. On the storage sites in al-Zakhariya and al-Afafir in Hama province, twenty 1-ton containers were discovered. More than 50 munitions were found which contain toxic chemicals. In Tal-Adli, Idleb province, 24 tons of toxic chemicals were discovered and this is believed to be chlorine. At the storage site Adhamiya, 30 kilometers northeast of Damascus, 240 and 160 millimeter caliber munitions were found. Plastic canisters were found with phosphorus substances and compounds. In the area of Al-Servita, Idlib province, an industrial complex was found for the synthesis of various toxic substances. 54 chemical munitions were found with a 44 chemical containers and these could be used for the manufacture of toxic substances.
From the beginning of this year alone, four instances were reported of fighters using toxic chemicals against positions where government troops are located in Shuja and Al-Mesharif. More than 100 Syrian troops were hospitalized. On March 3rd, when Hazrama and Al-Tars were liberated in Eastern Goutha, fighters from government troops discovered in a tunnel an underground artisanal manufacturing site to produce chemical munitions of a handmade nature. And this is far from a full list. It points to the wrongdoings and abuses by the irreconcilable opposition. However, the OPCW’s experts being sent there to identify evidence is not something which we see people eager to do. We demand that OPCW verify all of those areas. Access can be provided.
Also, information is surfacing that at the Al-Tanf camp, American instructors have trained a number of groups of fighters to stage provocations with chemical weapons used to create a pretext for a strike. It was clear to us that attempts to shelter terrorists and at the same time punish the regime so hated by some Western capitals would sooner or later be undertaken. Speaking heads on television screens sought to repeat last year’s strike against Syria. This morning, there were strikes against the T4 Air Field in Homs province.
We are deeply troubled by such actions. Provocations in Douma echo last year’s incident in Khan Sheikhoun. The unifying aspect is the fact that there’s a planned nature of these attacks. An analysis of the USS operations prior to and after the incident in Khan Sheikhoun in April 2007 shows that Washington, ahead of time, prepared for its operation. The USS Porter naval destroyer, from 4 to 7 April last year – that is when the toxic substance was used in Khan Sheikhoun, before the strike against the Shayrat airbase –, were already present in the Mediterranean waters where they were engaged in planned operations. They did not enter the ports where an exchange of munitions could have happened in order to increase the number of cruise missiles.
Incidentally, 4 to 5 April, the USS Porter destroyer was located southeast of Sicily, and the USS Ross naval destroyer was in a passage from the Rota naval base in the area south of Sardinia. Later, 6 April, an expedited movement of both naval destroyers was reported towards the firing positions more southwest of Cyprus. From there, on April 7, they conducted a mass strike against the Shayrat airfield. At the same time, the number of Tomahawk missiles that were launched (59) surpassed the overall munitions on both naval destroyers if they had actually been engaged in the anti-missile defense operations that had been assigned to them. For that purpose, only 48 units were necessary. Thereby, US naval vessels, even prior to the chemical incident in Khan Sheikhoun, entered military service with extra strike equipment that is an increase of cruise missiles that were not necessary for the anti-missile defense. And this could attest to prior planning by Washington of an act of strike against Damascus.
The fake news on Saturday from Douma are geared entirely towards drawing attention of society away from the Skripal case which was muddled up by London, and throwing on Russia completely unconfirmed accusations with the aim of pulling solidarity to build an anti-Russian alliance. Now the British are stepping away from a transparent investigation and putting forward specific responses for the questions and at the same time they are sweeping up their tracks. During the Security Council meeting on April 5 on the Skripal case, we cautioned that an attempt to unjustifiably blame us of having had a hand in the Salisbury incident was linked to the Syrian chemical dossier. Yesterday, this issue saw new interesting developments. For the moment, Foreign minister Boris Johnson continues to disclose things against Russia and attempt to be witty, and here’s the following pearl: experts of an RAF listening post south of Cyprus intercepted on the day of Skripal’s poisoning reports sent from Damascus suburbs to Moscow. And this is what Times is reporting. It contains the following sentence, the phrase “The package has been delivered” and “ the two individuals made a successful egress.” This turns out to be part of the intelligence information provided by London two hours prior to the expulsion of Russian diplomats. However is it not clear that there’s an irrefutable link here? Is that not clear to all? Syria-Russia-Salisbury?
I will give a hint to the British intelligence services and I will do so free of charge. Here is another great idea to cover-up their tracks: they could suggest that ‘Novichok’, which is so liked now, reached Salisbury directly from Syria by package. This is a complete mockery here.
Ambassador Haley has recently said that Russia will never be a friend of the United States. And I wish to respond to that. Friendship is something which is both reciprocal and voluntary. One cannot force a friendship. And we are not particularly keen to be friends with you. Nor are we begging to be friends with you. What we want from you is really nothing. It’s something that is normal civilized relations which you arrogantly refuse, disregarding basic courtesies.
And you are misguided if you think that you have friends. So-called friends of yours are only those who cannot say no to you. And this is the sole criterion for friendship in your understanding. Russia has friends and unlike yourselves, we do not have adversaries. We do not view the world through that prism. And yes, international terrorism, that is our enemy. However, we continue to propose cooperation. This needs to be respectful and mutual cooperation, it needs to go towards resolving real and not imagined problems. And you should be just as interested as we are in such a cooperation.
Ultimately, as permanent members of the Security Council, we bear the main responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. Through the relevant channels, we already conveyed to the US that armed force under mendacious pretexts against Syria, where, at the request of the legitimate government of the country, Russian troops have been deployed, could lead to grave repercussions.
We call upon Western politicians to scale down their hawkish rhetoric, to meaningfully consider possible repercussions and to cease the reckless spill over of threats to global security. What military misadventures of the West brought about is well known to us if we consider the examples of Yougoslavia, Iraq and Libya. And nobody has vested you with the power to act as policemen of the world and as investigators, procurators, judges and executioners all at the same time.
We call for your return to the legal fold to comply with the UN Charter and to jointly tackle problems that arise, rather than attempting at each step to advance your egotistical geopolitical game. All of the energy needs to be focused on support for the political process in Syria, to which it is necessary to constructively pull the efforts of all influential players. Russia always stands ready to engage in such cooperation.
To conclude, Mr. President, I wish to take this opportunity to request an open briefing of the Security Council on the outcomes of the UN assessment mission in Raqqa and the situation in the Rahman camp. We see the way of members of the Commission attempting to create a smoke screen around this issue, which is a result of their actions in Syria, including the operation to raze Raqqa to the ground through bombings. No chemical provocations will divert attention from this, from what you’ve done. Thank you.
First, today China announced that she is NOT seeking a trade war with the hegemon.
(US Futures Rise as Chinese Leadership Eases Fears of Trade War, US PPI Rises above Expectations: https://www.fxempire.com/news/article/us-futures-rise-chinese-leadership-eases-fears-trade-war-us-ppi-rises-expectations-491815).
Seems like China is backing down. Is this related to a passive and muted Russia in Syria (who may have-or not- made a deal with the hegemon) and is it pointing to a failing partnership between Russia and China? Bunch of questions indeed. Also an interesting article by Adam Garrie below.
“It is Time for Both Syria and Russia to Remember Who Their Real Enemies Are”
http://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/04/10/it-is-time-for-both-syria-and-russia-to-remember-who-their-real-enemies-are/
The art of diplomacy is saying “nice doggy, nice doggy” while reaching for a large rock.
China also – quietly – stopped buying US treasuries.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-09/we-understand-chinese-government-has-halted-purchases-us-treasuries-sgh
Matthew
China backing down ? No way. It has introduced the petro-yuan. As for the so-called trade war, the US cannot wage it, as it imports a heap of stuff from China.
Try, almost all the goods, except from some produce and Ford maybe some GM cars from Mexico. Most GM cars are built in China for Asian market, as GM spent billions of $ on car plants there. I do not know about other car manufacturers.
As bad as it is maybe it is time to back down. I know it is unpopular opinion. Time to capitulate to Hegemon right now. I understand it sounds counterproductive. But think about it: we are dealing with nutcases. Nutcases with nukes. Fighting back right now will risk escalation and possibly the end of civilization. They will not listen and if they do not get what they want, then all hell breaks loose. Perhaps it is time to capitulate rethink strategy and give those arrogant zionazi assholes illusion that they are winners and buy time. Once time is right, then strike back when zionazis are not looking and not ready. Gather strength, rethink strategy, observe their weak points, make a plan and strike. It might take many years. But eventually multipolar world will emerge in the future. There will be humiliation and suffering. And I know. I will get hatred for this. But the alternative? WW III. You have to understand. This is not an easy choice. If Russia does respond, by sinking ships or attacking bases, real risk is this: hegemony will declare it is act of war and will have an excuse to take things to another level. And it could lead to last war ever. Given between WWIII and capitulation and buying time, rethinking strategy and then attack Hegemon when it is so arrogand that it thinks it is immune to everything. In addition west is emploding. In time it will fall down due to its stupidity and arrogance without outside force. I know which one I choose. There are no easy answers. Give empire illusion they won, and wait until it collapses. Twice the pride double the fall. I hope I explained everything so that everyone understands.
O. P
Capitulate to the Hegemon ? You mean commit suicide ? Capitulating would mean giving a free hand to the Hegemon, who will use the same methods he used against native Americans. No way.
It is not an easy choice. But it might buy some time. I am afraid that if it does not get what it want it will mean Nuclear War. And end of humanity. This is situation with no easy answers. What do you suggest should be done? Let Hegemony implode under its own weight. I never suggested to commit suicide. But as I said before. We are dealing with psychopaths. With Nuclear Weapons.
The announced development of weaponry in Russia was done on the bought time. The Hegemon is still in denial. Unfortunately, there is no other way to prevent the world catastrophe but the physical elimination of the main puppeteers. The leading war mongers are ziocons, banksters, and weapon manufacturers and security services. These wealthy and powerful imbeciles do not understand the scale of the approaching catastrophe.
Paradoxically, there is still a chance to save humanity at large by giving a painful lesson to the warmongers. They are asking for that. Most likely, the places of their “retreat” are well known and can be penetrated. The world will be better without Cheneys, Blairs, Obamas, Mullers, Bibis, Schumers, Sabans, and other Adelsons. These idiots have been destroying the rule of law for their pleasure.
Otherwise, the puppeteers — the psychopaths in charge — will lead to the elimination of life on this planet. They are not able to reason and to negotiate. They must be given a lesson. The great numbers of the innocent are going to suffer.
There is no other way to kill the ziocon parasite.
Buying time again? Buying time would result in another million innocent peoples’ deaths. I would say, no thanks, no more.
I see propaganda agents are hard at work.’Mad men with nukes’ is a propaganda method used by USA in the Cold War and apparently now too.
Surrender is not an option, nobody wants to end up like the native Americans and any promises made by USA are also irrelevant since they tend to not keep their word – if there was any doubt in this regard it was completely removed by the actions of the USA following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
So if what you’re saying is true that USA is run by mad men with nukes then the options of those who want to be free of the hegemon are – surrender and end up like the native Americans or fight and die together with the hegemon, personally I favor the latter option.
Referring to a meeting between Russia’s Defence Minister, Shoigu and the Chinese Minister of Defence, Wei Fenghe the two most senior government officials of their respective Defence departments, the Chinese minister said very unambiguously
“The Chinese side came to let the Americans know about the close ties between the Russian and Chinese armed forces”.
China knows where it’s security lies and made it’s position clear. The whole purpose of the trip by the Chinese Minister was for no other purpose than this. And it is the unity of their armed forces that he sought to emphasise. This meeting was just a very few days ago.
http://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/04/03/chinese-defence-minister-in-russia-has-a-message-for-the-united-states/
For god sake, don’t you have a spine?
Churchill, the war criminal, once said: “No one wins war with withdrawals.”
Despite being a great war criminal, he knew what he was talking about.
Did you hear about Munich?
Did you hear about Rhineland?
And you did not learn anything?
With regard to Munich and Rhineland…the whole idea was to get Germany to destroy USSR…the surrenders did precisely what they were intended to do, there was nothing to stop the Nazi Armies after the Czech were gone…sold out..meantime the Czechs were paying enormous bribes to some MPs and to Winston…crooked as a dog’s leg the bunch. Bleeding the victim, then selling him out anyway…does this sound familiar…how about Qaddafi?
Mr Churchill was visibly drunk most of the time, according to officer staff diaries kept at the time, and he was by some of these men generally seen as contemptible. You know what he did to Hess…Winston created the war so as to destroy USSR and Russia. Typically, he blew it. Well, he was drunk…
Gallipoli does come to mind, and numerous fabulous fubars in W2 …
Nevertheless even such a nice man managed to say true things occasionally, and in the example given by “Arrested”, dear Winnie wuz right.
However the quote avoids the question…which would be, Does withdrawal avoid war?”
I propose the W does under some circumstance delay defeat. It is a standard in guerrilla warfare manuals. By delaying defeat you continue to live, and there-by prepare another attack… Pretty basic, I have read this in US Army field manuals…
I do not imagine this is guerilla war, does anybody?
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In the matter of this speech at UN… It bears both reading and listening… more than once. And making a copy.
I get the clear idea the we-all are at the “red line”.
And I think with great confidence that there will be provocations after provocations.
And I notice that they always double… as in roulette, you have to double when you lose…and empire is facing a material existential threat to itself because it is an exponential machine in a linear space, so to say…
They are clearly lawless because that is the only method at this stage, and remember Uncle Karl’s ideas about Capitalism…
I fear, alas, that we’re at the OK Corral. Right down to the wire…
There’s a youtube video by a chemist, a real chemist. This was posted in the Cafe…but it’s most interesting part comes at the end conclusion…maybe 10 minutes..worth listening as it is about the war about to go hot:
“rather like the WMD Iraq scenario and is aimed at creating a war with Russia that no one can win and where all life will lose. Why is this being done? Because the only way for the rich and powerful to escape the coming US Economic catastrophe caused by the destruction of the petrodollar is to pull the house down and hope to escape in the general confusion and disaster from the wreckage.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4utEI2EU64&feature=youtu.be
What a load of BS. I don’t trust your sincerity.
It is time to fight back degenerate empire, regardless of the outcome.
It is not a choice, it is the only response. If they are prepared to risk nuclear winter, which I doubt, let it be.
They might be crazy but they are not stupid. Russia is pushed into the corner, it cannot back down any more.
Russia must act, right now.
Forgive me. I favour fighting back. I am confident that Russia and China have a big surprise for AZ idiots. I was just afraid how AZ will react. I want life on Earth preserved and avoid Nuclear War. I am just as worried as you are. You have a point. The best option is to strike hard and give bloody nose. One they never forget. I concur with your view. I admit I was wrong. Please accept my apologies.
Putin categorically stated that they are not bluffing.
Matthew,
No where does it say in Adam Garrie’s excellent article (for which you have provided the link- thanks) that China is “backing down” or that China and Russia have a “failed relationship”. This is exclusively your own opinion; and not quite sure what it’s based on because China’s actions & words show exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Oh no. Here again. Read just a bit more carefully links you send here, before starting your trolling.
Why pick a fight with a rabid pit-bull, looking for victims in its hydrophobic death-throes. If it corners you, you have no choice, but otherwise-just sit back and watch it die of its own disease.
Bottom line is, Russian Army must prevent zio-nazi attack on Syria. There is no other way around, they must do whatever necessary to stop this madness. They cannot sit on two chairs anymore, impossible. All they need to do is say it clearly, if you attack, we will respond.
> if you attack, we will respond.
then USA would shoot a couple of M-16 clips and say “we attacked”
any voiced “if X then Y” is just a leash you give your enemy to control you
Yeah, we can play with words till no one is left alive in Syria. Simply put, no one listens, no one cares. All attempts to reason are useless and as we know, there were many in recent years, with only outcome being learned about another lie, broken promise and so on. RF could as well talk to the stone, and hope for better outcome.
Last year, about the same time they attempted the same play which ended with 50-ish tomahawks fired from one of their ships to airfield in Syria … I remember commenting about their zest to execute such atrocities during the Eastern holidays… Something can be said about it.
We can only pray for peace and reason.
Friend, there is not peace. There may not be an open and direct war., but peace we do not have. There has been no peace since 2003, when Putin tried to make friends with an idiot Bush II.
It could take a couple of incinerated US Warships with their ships company before these morons come to their senses.
MOSCOW, April 10. /TASS/. Russia will take all political, diplomatic and military retaliatory measures if necessary should the United States deliver a strike on Syria, Russian State Duma (lower house of parliament) Defense Committee Chairman and former Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Airborne Troops Vladimir Shamanov said on Tuesday.
“The politics of double standards have hit rock bottom. And here the United Russia party conscientiously states that all political, diplomatic and military measures if necessary will be taken. No illegal action will remain unanswered,” Shamanov vowed at a plenary meeting of the State Duma.
http://tass.com/politics/998770
Both, Russia and China, need time. Any kind of war can disrupt the rise of these two powers. With time, the empire will fall apart and drag the rest of the garbage, western “elites” with it to hell. The state of Israel will become irrelevant without any host to suck blood from. They will all eventually trip in its own lies, stupidity and arrogance. Ideally, I’d much prefer the game of chess to any game of rockets.
the real history
The point is that the bankers who rule the US and UK do not have time on their side. NATO alone costs the West 2 billion dollars a day. Russia and China are preparing to introduce gold backed currencies. China has introduced the petro-yuan. They have created the BRICS, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Eurasian Economic Union and the Silk Road. This was not planned by the bankers. Rusia and China are on the rise. This too was not planned by the bankers. Power, political and economic, is shifting towards Eurasia. This too was not planned by the bankers. They want to prevent this. How ? By war of course, their little old trick. However, they better think carefully, as we are living in a high tech nuclear age.
Bankers live in the same illusion that nuclear war will not happen. They are electively blind to the one thing that would knock their house of paper cards flat.
I’m with you my friend, i’m sick and tired of the innocent being caught in the cross fire. But at the same time lets be realistic. Do you really believe the psychopaths in DC, London, Tel Aviv, Paris and others will accept their downfall with out a bloodbath?
Ahmed, I think that to any game of such complexity there is a lot that is invisible even to those who play it. Without a doubt the psychopaths will do whatever they can to create oceans of blood (btw oceans are the closest thing in its chemical structure to human blood/plasma and in some mythologies it is said to be the blood of previous civilizations). The point here, is that leaders like Putin (who I believe is incorruptible, and no, I’m not naïve) will have to outsmart the sadistic-reptilian elements of the Wall Street, City of London and Tel-Aviv without starting any new conflicts that can lead to the end of our existence. So far, we are alive and are capable of communicating ideas and prayers to shift things in our favor, meaning some battles are already won but the war is still a very much an ongoing process.
I 100% agree with B.F. in regards to the fact that there is so much that was not planned by the financial, parasitic goblins and they’re definitely in a panic mode. There is no coherency in their actions, the propaganda become less and less believable and they don’t own what they thought was already theirs. Remember, Putin was shaking hands with Kissinger and some other cold blooded creatures pretending to be friends; so many were quick to judge saying he was one of them and it was all a game, a theater. Well, it was a game but not the one of betrayal on the part of Putin. The longer this game can be played, the more chances we have not to be incinerated in hellish fires of war. All of that to say is that I’m shocked at how many people, even in this forum, are advocating for Russia to respond in a way that shows strength, and yet, this very response can finish us all. I have kids to raise and chest beating would not help for this endeavor to move. Thank you for your comments.
Syria Invites OPCW to Probe Alleged Chemical Attack in E Ghouta – Reports
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804101063402228-ghouta-syria-chemical-attack-opcw/
“Syria is keen on cooperating with the OPCW to uncover the truth behind the allegations that some western sides have been advertising to justify their aggressive intentions,” state news agency SANA said, quoting an official source in the Foreign Ministry.
According to SANA, Syria will provide all the necessary assistance to the OPCW specialists if they go to Douma.
The state news agency has also stated that the foreign ministry had “sent a formal invitation to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to send a team from its fact-finding mission to visit Douma and investigate claims linked to the alleged use of chemical weapons there.”
Moscow Wants Independent Experts to Reaffirm Claims on Chemical Weapons in Douma
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201804101063396326-russia-syria-douma-no-chemical-weapons-experts/
“We want independent experts to reaffirm the assessment [that Damascus did not use chemical weapons]. We invited the OPCW experts to come there and we will do everything so to ensure this visit, this trip,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters, noting that Russia had not received any response to its proposals so far.
The minister highlighted that Russian would not believe in any conclusions of experts, who did not work on the ground but carried out analyzes “remotely.” He noted that claims about the alleged insecurity of visits to Douma were unfounded.
“It [Douma] is fully controlled by Syrian forces, Russian military observers and military police are deployed there. And if security guarantees are required for the OPCW inspectors, such guarantees will be provided,” Lavrov said.”
Tucker Carlson slams US foreign policy in no-holds-barred monologue on Syria, social media explodes
https://www.rt.com/usa/423707-tucker-carlson-monologue-syria/
“All the geniuses tell us that Assad killed those children, but do they really know that? Of course they don’t really know that. They’re making it up. They have no real idea what happened,” Carlson said.
“Actually both sides in the Syrian civil war possess chemical weapons,” he said, noting that it wouldn’t have benefited Assad to use chlorine gas, since his forces have been winning the war in Syria.
He also discussed last year’s sarin gas attack which the majority of US leaders also blamed on Assad. “But of course they were lying,” he said, noting that US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis admitted two months ago that there is still no proof that Assad used sarin last year. Carlson called the story “propaganda.”
Twitter exploded with support for Carlson following the broadcast, with many praising him for being the only American mainstream media personality to publicly challenge US foreign policy on television.
“Tucker Carlson is without question the greatest American in the mainstream media,” tweeted the executive director of the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, Daniel McAdams. He added that Carlson may have saved “thousands of lives, maybe more” through his comments.”
thanks VT – that’s super great news.
here’s the link to the Tucker Carlson youtube – it is brilliant – Hats Off to Tucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M28aYkLRlm0
A few important news. May give a clue in regards to the global situation and in terms of why Euroasian powers are backing down in front of the hegemon.
1-Erdogan harshly criticized Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov yesterday. When Lavrov demanded Turkey to hand over Afrin to the Syrian government, Erdogan answered that only Turkey knows whom to hand over Afrin and not Lavrov. This is highly unusual especially following the highly decorated reception of Mr.Putin a week ago.
2- Economic attack have started both on Turkey and Russia. Russian stock market index (Moscow index) lost almost 12% yesterday in heavy trading and so were Turkey’s markets. Turkish currency is under heavy sell pressure, thus dropping like a rock.
3-Erdogan and the media controlled by him, heavily criticize Assad of conducting chemical attacks in Douma, Syria. They are now following the US-western MSM line in their reportings. It may be Turkey is now seeking a rapprochement back with the hegemon desperately, out of shear economic fear, which otherwise could most likely dash Erdogan’s hopes for winning next year’s elections.
These are IMO the very first repercussions of Russia’s unusual soft stance in Syria (may be due to some back-door deals with the hegemon?). Astana triad may be on the brink of collapse.
An excellent comment by RATM which I agree with 100% and think deserves a hearing here:
“A quick readers guide to ‘fake/paid commenters’:
– if someone says Russia is loosing/selling out… he is paid
– if someone says the Empire is winning… he is paid
– if someone says Russia must act now or ‘it’s all over’ …. he is paid
– if someone says Russia must nuke US/NATO/whatever… he is paid
– if someone overdramatizes US/Israeli token attacks on Syria… he is paid
– if someone takes Western announces as truth or a done deal… he is paid
Truth is this:
– the multi-polar world is coming, nothing the West does can stop it
– Russia can sit tight and wait for the West to implode, with each pasing day
the pressure on the Western financial system is growing and it is imploding in slow motion
– Small provocations are just that, small. All rocket attacks on Syria didn’t change the reality on the ground and won’t change the tide of war
– Russia doesn’t decide if Iran/Hezbollah stays in Syria or not, the Syrian goverments does hence, Russia cannot ‘sell them out’
– “Assad must go”, “Animal Assad”, “Guilty Russians”, “Poison attacks” etc…
For me it’s all blah blah blah….
I wish for more people to just stop taking notice whenever and whatever the West is spewing. Just ignore them. Press the mute them. Forever. Their power lies in engaging us into their bs narratives. Deny that to them. Set yourselves free.”
hey VT – I agree – why does every one trust the word of Nikki Haley and Trump ?????
its all hot air – farts coming out of their mouths – which is the only thing that comes out of there –
How exactly is Russia backing down?Just because they didn’t retaliate against an Israeli attack consisting of 8-15 missiles which didn’t harm Russian troops, doesn’t mean they’ve backed down.First of all this ‘attack’ is an attack in name only, meant to test the waters and provoke a response to which Russia correctly didn’t allow themselves to be provoked.
Combined with the financial(not economic) attacks and the latest Syria chemical attack propaganda, it seems this was an well timed and coordinated attempt to create panic among Russia and friends.If I had to guess I’d say you(Matthew) yourself are a disinfo agent from the AngloZionist camp here, spreading misinformation,doubt and discouragement hoping to break up the Astana triad.
Btw, can you provide some credible sources for your claims about what Erdogan said?Erdogan personally, mind you, who knows who controls Turkish media.
Assad had no reason to launch chem attack, unlike those who want US involvement – Ron Paul
https://www.rt.com/news/423655-syria-assad-no-motive-douma-attack/
“I don’t know what they are confident about. They are confident in telling lies and hope people will believe it,” he said.
Mainstream American media don’t seem to need facts to back the White House’s claims, either. “Most of the time when a crime is committed in this country, the stations, when they are not sure, they carefully say: ‘this is allegedly’ – but they never do this under these circumstances and they have zero bits of information,” Paul pointed out.
“I cannot see any reason why Assad would do this, there’s no reason for Russians to have done that.” Unlike Russia and Syria, the forces who want to see the US staying in Syria have a clear motive, Paul said.
“There are so many who want to stir up trouble, and the people who want us to stay there,” he said, suggesting that Trump’s recent promise to leave Syria “very soon” might have prompted war hawks to take action. “I think the policy makers here did not want us to leave and somebody does it for them,” he argued, stressing that “this whole idea that, all of a sudden, Assad is gassing his own people, is a total nonsense.”
It is such a pleasure to hear Mr. Nebenzea call a spade – a spade! Surely the US administration would never allow or support an investigation by the OPCW, or any other organization that it does not directly control, into false flag chemical attacks that serve its agenda. So I expect Haley and her vassals to veto Russia’s motion. But it’s still great to observe a forceful, determined presentation of facts by Mr. Nebenzea.
“Today, the OPCW Technical Secretariat has requested the Syrian Arab Republic to make the necessary arrangements for such a deployment. This has coincided with a request from the Syrian Arab Republic and the Russian Federation to investigate the allegations of chemical weapons use in Douma. The team is preparing to deploy to Syria shortly,” the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said in a statement on Tuesday.
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-opcw-will-travel-to-douma-to-investigate-reported-chemical-weapons-attack/
Whether that will be enough to stop/delay the imminent attack remains to be seen.
a summary from a discerning friend…mostly trustworthy A-2
Apr 10 at 7:11 AM
A summary:
#BREAKING – #US President cancels trip to #Peru to focus on trans-national strike against #Syria over alleged chemical weapons usage. #British & #French naval assets near USS Donald Cook in #Mediterranean for strikes expected in next 24 hours.
#BREAKING – #British forces now mobilizing in #Cyprus base for strikes against #Syria. #US-led effort will involve #France, #UK and Middle Eastern allies to strike Syria over alleged chemical weapons use. #Russia has put all units in Syria and the Black Sea at high alert.
Chair of #Russia/n State Duma Defense Cmmttee Gen.Shamanov on #Trump’s possible #Syria strike: “Double standards hit rock bottom. No illegal action will remain unanswered.They shldnt pin hopes on their naval task forces&deceptions.We wont let US hammer nails on smn else’s anvil”
BREAKING: #Russia|n Air Force Su-24Ms supported by Su-30SM interceptors flew in low altitude near the French Navy #MarineNationale Aquitaine-class (FREMM) multipurpose frigate D650. D650 is now sailing near the @USNavy USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) in southeast #MediterraneanSea.
#Russia in #UNSC: Attack on #Syria to cause serious consequences
#BREAKING – #Saudi Arabian FM confirms support for strikes against #Syria, making #KSA first Middle Eastern state to join the #US-led trans-national attack. #UK and #France have pledged forces to strike over alleged chemical weapons usage. Attack expect in next 24 hours.
#saa Syria: missile defense systems were deployed around the presidential palace and the defense ministry in Damascus, according to a UN diplomatic source. Aircraft were reportedly transferred to the Russian base near Lattakia
And ….. the Bosphorus remains closed to international transit due to heavy fog at the BlackSea entrance.
(Intel Crab tweets.)
Saker – can we have an analysis of how Russia and Syria can defend against the missiles
Then how this situation can escalate
Do you foresee American boots on the ground
Good point. I would also like to hear Sakers viewpoints about this.
Mod: Sarcastic attack on another poster deleted.
To start, look at how they handled the last “attack”. Just note that Russia has (currently) some of the best air defense and ECM systems in the world.
There are too many scenarios with too many variables right now, to give an analysis of all the what-ifs.
American boots on the ground? Not likely. What, you gonna send Johnny transgender to fight some of the most battle hardened and tested armies (SAA, Hizbollah, etc.) in the ME. Talk about doubling down on stupidity….
WW3 is a step closer, the Russians have been pushed into a corner, Very bad tactics to trap an opponent and not leave an exit strategy.
Washington are aware of Russian superiority in Hypersonic nuclear weapons and are hoping to restrict the coming clash to the Syrian theatre.
We can hope they just make a token strike ,like last year against the Shayrat base after the chemical poison hoax at Shayk katoum. Russia did not retaliate then, but have recently stated that they will respond to an attack on Russian forces in Syria ,by counter attacking all air ,sea and land based sources. We shall see who blinks first.
Trumps administration now includes, the war criminal and superhawk John Bolton., war hawk Mike Pompeo and CIA torturer Gina Haspell. so their is little reason to be optimistic.
The Big Picture is the failure of the Mahan Theory of Sea Trade Route dominance by the US Navy 11 carrier groups. This is nullified by the New Silk road High speed rail trade route from China to Europe,
This route spells the demise of the US dollar as Reserve currency and the Achilles heel of US hegemonic power.
The Chinese ,the biggest consumers of oil and gas ,issued the Petro Yuan last week convertible to Gold and have stopped buying US Treasury Bonds. Should they demand Saudi Arabia accept the Petro Yuan for supplies ,it is game over for Washington. This is possibly the reason for the US urgency in Syria.
Syria is blocking the route to Iran and up into Central ASIA to cut and control this Silk Road route and impose the US dollar toll.
He who controls Central Asia controls the world island from Asia to Europe,as per Sir Halford Mackendrie , Heartlands Theory.
This is a reprise of the Great Game between the British and Russian Empires. nothing changes, just the weapons get bigger.
These US imbeciles are so stuffed with arrogance and hubris , they have no conception of the courage,steadfastness and ability of Russians to withstand hardship.
The lessons of history have been ignored by the US.
Buonapare and Hitlers demise, sieges of Stalingrad and Leningrad,all demonstrations of Russian resolve and patriotism.
Biggest weakness of the US education system have always been History and Geoghraphy.
As Putin said ,’how can you deal with US politicians who do not know the difference between Austria and Aust
An interesting article of a Canadian journalist about the Skripal case.
“Russia’s Kommersant newspaper has gotten its hands on “Salisbury Incident”, a document used by
British government to convince allies to expel more than hundred Russian diplomats over the Skripal
poisoning case. The five-slide PowerPoint presentation summarizes the UK version of events. But what
proof does offer?”
https://mydundasvalley.com/2018/03/28/russian-media-confirms-points-included-in-my-correspondence-with-mp-filomena-tassi/