Is there a 5th column in the Russian media?
Hell yeah!
It is literally all over the place!
Like during the latest Q&A with President Putin. I don’t know if anybody else noticed this, but it really pissed me off. Check out who got to ask a question from the studio:
Khakamada Venediktov Kudrin Remchukov
For those who don’t know these faces – they are some of the worst “demofreaks” in Russia. Meet:
Irina Khakamada: bigtime Nemtsov groupie, professional protester and feminist.
Alexei Venediktov: editor in Chief of the rabidly anti-Russian “Ekho Moskvy” (Echo of Moscow) Radio Station, aka “Ekho Matsy” (Echo of the Matso) due to its russophobic political line. He is actually a “true believer” in western democracy
Alexei Kudrin: one of the figureheads of the Atlantic Integrationists, a hardcore market economist, forever offended since he was fired (by Medvedev, of all people!).
Konstantin Remchukov: owner and editor in chief of Nezavisimaya Gazeta, who has received the official imprimatur of the Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty.
Just look at their faces! They have that “eternal sadness of the professional dissident” in their eyes. Clearly, they “suffer” from the “regime” and they feel like 21st century versions of Sakharov and Solzhenitsyn. They also feel hurt, because the barbaric, reactionary and ungrateful Russian people never gave them the support they feel that their courageous stance deserves, and so, not a single one of their candidates made it into the Duma. Not one!
That’s right. These guys represent at most 5% of the Russian people. And yet, they are treated by the state media like some kind of honored guests, as if they were literally all Heroes of Russia, with something important and enlightening to say.
Personally? I would not even invite them at all. None of them. I despise their ideas, their attitude, their hypocrisy, their russophobia and their sickening sniveling about how hard it is to be a “dissident” in Putin’s Russia (even when they get invited by the state TV).
But nevermind them. The real question is this: who invited them and why?
So yes, there is a 5th column in the Russian media.
The Saker
they are lost causes given a final hearing before they r said goodbye… they should thank their stars that they r not in Gitmo but in Russia
There is no way a similar event organised by BBC in UK would invite such opposition.
After Yemen I am now convinced (& despondent) – the only logical answer is bad cop/good cop and extended perpetual war (no nukes will ever be deployed). They are all oligarch’s – they are all on the same team.
CORRECT – George Galloway wasn’t invited onto the opposition leaders debate last week or so. Twitter went bat shit crazy over it. Hundreds of tweets that I read blasted the Boy Buggering Corpse-ration for his non inclusion. The western media pontificate about democracy, blah, blah yet the Russian Federation’s President takes questions for 4 hours – 4 HOURS !! show me a western Democracy that would expose their leader to unscripted questions for 4 minutes, let alone 4 hours !?!?!
Exactly – well said
Please provide proof that the questions were “unscripted”.—I understand that only a tiny fraction
of all the questions submitted were chosen to be featured at this programmed event.
Do you know what their questions were?
Did you happen to read Chomsky’s answer regarding a “weaponized press” in his RT interview?
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/29706-noam-chomsky-us-responsible-for-qworst-terrorist-campaign-in-the-world-by-farq
You can easily watch for yourself and see what their questions were. The full video is on RT and other places. There were two questions about Nemtsov’s murder, and blah blah blah.
This seems to contrast the silencing of dissenters in Kiev as is done by the junta.
Silencing is now an euphemism for killing, right?
I think that this is the way western media act. They have their own dissident to give the illusion of democracy. This is why these men are here in the russian media, to give an illusion, to let the people hate them and their idea. If they were not there, the people would have considered their ideas as something new that has to be experienced. But this is just my opinion.
Good to see that Russia finally caught on how democracy really works.
For awhile they were scaring me with their seeming naivety.
Sam on April 20, 2015 · at 2:10 am UTC said:
“Good to see that Russia finally caught on how democracy really works.”
In a way you are correct – the Russians do a version of democracy (predatory capitalist democracy) better than anyone else on earth http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13575515
I wonder how these media figures feel about the current state of free speech in Ukraine? Because the contrast with Russia is pretty sharp.
Be that as it may, all this tells me is that the Russian state is strong and confident and thus has no reason to fear the views even of a disloyal opposition. The Ukie Nazi wannabes on the other hand, simply can’t allow any of their “ideas” to be challenged. They fall apart even under the mildest of scrutiny.
— Russian state is strong and confident and thus has no reason to fear the views even of a disloyal opposition
That’s right, my friend.
And the more the true faces of the “opposition elite” are shown to the people, the stronger our hatred (I am a Russian, living in Russia) of them shall be.
And the less inclined shall we be to believe their ideas.
Agree, Russian state and the people are strong enough to listen to opposing views. That does not mean they have to agree with them. Tolerance (to some extent) is a sign of a maturing civil society. Perhaps Putin has succeeded after all.
“The real question is this: who invited them and why?”
At least you asked relevant questions.
“Just look at their faces! They have that “eternal sadness of the professional dissident” in their eyes. ”
I looked at the date and it didn’t say 1938 and the attribution didn’t say Andrei Vishynski.
Russia is not the Soviet Union and no-one is likely to receive a one way trip to Butovo or elsewhere with a donation of an extra 9 gm on arrival.
The notion of 5th column may have uses in group hate sessions but in modern Russia – no.
anon, if I read your comment right you’re saying that Saker’s rant is untrue….what planet did you say you were from ?
Russia
well, could you please give more of an explanation for your rant to Saker’s rant…I don’t understand what you’re saying…sorry….North American here….just trying to understand the state of things today, and its seems like Saker’s right on, generally. Are you saying you don’t think there is a fifth column in Russia today…at least that is harmful ?
Perhaps you also don’t think there is a fifth column in every country…and that’s why the state of the world is what it is… ?
They are just weaklings and/or brainwashed pro-US presstitutes… And don’t forget that this kind of beings used to be in power in Yeltsin’s time…
“… because the barbaric, reactionary and ungrateful Russian people never gave them the support …”
Yeah! :) We all should be more barbaric, reactionary and ungrateful with regard to our democRATically selected leaders!
An accurate article about Ukie neo-nazis and their influence in Canada:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/04/10/canada-represents-reservoir-support-ukrainian-neo-nazis.html
Is it not obvious that Putin is showing them up publicly and nationally for what they are? Strong and brilliant leaders don’t shy away from such confrontations, or set up such events with only soft questions, as the White House does. A strong and brilliant leader confronts and uses the opportunity to contrast more strongly his own achievements, capability and courage. You observed the sour facial expressions. Do you think that the Russian audience didn’t perceive as you do? Putin is applying Teddy Roosevelt’s “man in the arena” quote. There will always be critics, but the Russian audience will get the point.
Spot on. Putin doesn’t need to shy away from confrontation with his media opponents. He knows that the Russian people support him and his policies more than they support these pro-American stooges…sorry, “pro-Democracy dissidents.”
Contrast this to America, where their political rulers have a hard time putting together a coherent argument without their teleprompter (see Barack Obama, George Bush, and especially Sarah Palin and her recent Iowa Freedom Caucus speech below, if you want a good laugh).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrzD-zqWwWc
That is why the the United States require a controlled “Free Press” to help prop the political “legitimacy” of the American system.
I have to agree with this post. Putin knows very well about all of the 5 column who are in the Duma too. They are getting lots of opportunities to show their talent?????????? at the same time they are watched very carefully by whom they are financed .I’m sure it is the brilliant thinking of Putin, he wants to show to all of the Russian people, what is the opposition plan and the Russian’s can decide. No force at all, because if you supress something, it will bounce back even with the more power and Russia had suffered and was supressed lot for many hundred years.
Saker, would you like to eat griecka /buckwheat/every day? Even it is very nutritious, has very low level of gluten and mix with some fruit and nuts in it ,it is the most nutritious breakfast, but after while you will get bored to eat this every day. Putin knows that, if he is going to present only and only his ideas after while it is going to be boring. for everyone.
Putin is the only one leader right now around the world, who really loves his nation and he knows from the past and history what went on in Russia. He doesn’t want this Russia any more, he wants to Russia be free with out looting and terror. He wants this not just for Russia, but for the all world. It was enough terror coming non -stop from the Empire and the humanity is waking up.
Yes, in Russian TV you have a 5 column, confirmation of this is they are taking a lot of news from the Reuters and we know who is the owner and operator of the Reuters, at the same time Russians has a choice to choose what they want on a free and democratic base.
And Putin’s message was “if we stay united like we are now no one can beat us” so those who try to divide Russia are traitor’s and there they were sitting in the audience for all of Russia to see. Not very high calibre either. Except for Kudrin they looked pretty jaded.
RR
RockyRacoon on April 20, 2015 · at 3:50 am UTC said:
“so those who try to divide Russia are traitor’s and there they were sitting in the audience for all of Russia to see.”
They are divided, more than practically any state on earth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13575515
“It’s fast becoming a major social and economic problem, as it becomes clear that large parts of the population have not been able to benefit from the opportunities provided by the transition to a market economy.”
The wool has been pulled over your eyes.
Anonymous Anglophile respondent to Rocky Raccoon,
No, I wouldn’t concur with your “wool” metaphor by any means. I’d say you are the wool. The question is, is the wool (you, my good sir) wittingly, or unwittingly serving a foggy, moisture-laden mind suffocating function???
In Rocky one at least sees a positive vector of intent.
What is your intent? To suggest that others join you in a dream desire that inequalities in Russia (hey, they tried total theoretical “equality” for 73 years, based on the bogus Marxist b.s. sponsored by Karl’s British East India Company Empire operative Friedrich Engels) be the weak flank through which another Empire wedge might be inserted, this time to “revolutionize” Russia “in color” and deprive the poor of Russia from the best leadership they have seen in over 150 years???
Your BBC could just as easily have conducted their video editorial in the United States, where, unlike Russia, where there is hope, many Americans have lost hope, largley because of their slow poisoning by bad ideas spread by OUR longstanding 5th Column, the ever loving Tories of our Eastrern Liberal ANGLO- American estalishment. So now you have my state of California drying out while one of the most prominent public victims their brainwashing, Gov Jerry Brown, states that “nothing can be done” to save agriculture in California, because “nature” only intended that 400,000 humans inhabit the place!
As I have stated once before on this site, put up posters and literature tables at post offices nearly anywhere in the USA that say “Putin is your friend” pass Glass Steagall, Join The BRICS”, and passersby will more often say, “Well, at least he’s doing something for his people!”
Putin has a long way to go (don’t we all, nearly everywhere?) in uplifting the bottom 40% of Russians, but with his leadership, more Russians are being born than dieing and the growth trend will reach the poor in your video if bastards in London fail in their geopolitical efforts to encircle and destroy Russia and prevent the realization of Lincoln’s (sorry, America bashers, everything about us is not rotten) vision of a prosperous planet freed of Imperial sea power by railroad development opening the interiors of all continents to development and peace.
Or, we could stay stuck in an insane zero sum game (a British Imperial Geopolitical commitment to preventing the “World Island” —Eurasia— from ever escaping poverty and war) and once again, try world war, this time with nukes. Is that what you want? Then why don’t you come up with some positive contribution to avoiding it?
Mind and Soul, Your reference to the CA water shortage: The drought only contributes. Real cause is that 5 years reserve of water was purposely allowed to pass into the Pacific. Original “excuse” was to save a non-native smelt. Now that they think we’ve forgotten about it, they blame the water shortage on the drought.
http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress3/the-end-of-the-california-orange/ Dams bought by Warren Buffet, drained into the ocean.
http://therionorteline.com/2014/02/17/the-man-made-california-drought-progressives-destroying-jobs-one-industry-at-a-time/ San Joaquin WAS the food basket for the United States providing more than half of America’s fruit, vegetable and nuts supply before the Obama administration began the destruction of dams and dikes there.
Penelope, thanks for the links. The war is against anyone, anywhere that says “NO!” to the Empire. At the present time, the most strategically significant naysayer is Russia, and the most heroic resistance to imperial consent by fear and force are the defenders of Novorossiya, from a macro point of view. From a micro point of view the war is fought in family units and even the solitary brains of individuals, in every part of the world.
In this regard, the Brown family of California is most instructive. The father of the current Gov Jerry Brown, was former California Governor Edmund G “Pat” Brown (1959-1967) who played a very instrumental and positive role in developing the infrastructure of the State of California, including the expansion of many of the state’s water projects!!! What happened to Jerry? What do you think? The JFK assassination, the Vietnam war, MK Ultra,etc,etc, In a word, “the Sixties”. While his dad was in Sacramento, I would wager that something permanently mind altering was occurring in his son Jerry’s brain, during Pat’s second term and in the years immediately following. It’s been a cultural war for a long time, folks, and Gov Jerry Brown is a casualty of that war that neither his dad Pat, nor JFK, nor FDR, nor Lincoln nor Washington would even recognize as “American”! The trouble is, the same thing happened to many members of most families, and many of your neighbors, and if they don’t snap out of their fog very soon (it IS still possible for some Americans, but forget Jerry! Just forget him! If it’s brown, flush it.) they will become part of the America that contributed the least to their posterity and threw away the most contributions of their forbearers of any single generation of Americans in history. That’s the only thing we need some precious “exceptions” to.
You said it. The Royal Navy and since then the U.S. Navy have been shaking everybody down on the high seas.
So,do you disagree that they have that “eternal sadness of the professional dissident” in their eyes ? And if so,why? Regardless of the reasons,I think that look is pretty easy to recognize on their faces.I’m surprised that would be the point you disagreed about.My understanding is that even if Stalin,using Andrei Vishynski,cast a very wide net to get rid of people disagreeing with him. That doesn’t mean some of his fears.And the claims of traitors at work wasn’t true.The West has always,from the beginnings of Russia’s rise to power.Tried all types of underhanded actions and recruited Russians willing to betray Russia,to further its interests.This bunch today,knowingly or not,is in line with those of the past.The difference is in the State.Putin seems (as others have mentioned as well) to have a very Russian humane streak in him.Unlike say,Pyotr Alexeyevich or Iosif Vissarionovich,this ruler,Vladimir Vladimirovich.Doesn’t believe that “silencing” opponents,necessarily means using an ax,rope,bullet,or gulag.I think the 5th column is lucky they aren’t important enough for him to rethink that.
Interesting comment and article,“It’s fast becoming a major social and economic problem, as it becomes clear that large parts of the population have not been able to benefit from the opportunities provided by the transition to a market economy.”Can you name any country (minus maybe China.And that is because of their “pesky”Communist government policies) that the majority population has “gained” from that transition.The ability to,if you have the money that few do,to travel to Vegas or the Riviera.Have a condo in London,or New York,again if you have money.Or maybe an IPhone and Blog on the net.Doesn’t make up for,lowered education,no health care advances,pension plan defaults or elimination,homelessness rising,jobs if you can get one,mostly at low wages,etc.Which this “transition” has brought to 3 out of 4 people in the World.So,maybe,if we are very lucky we will get the same “wool” pulled over our eyes as well.And personal incomes will go up 3 or 4 times in 15 years.And GDP by 6 times.That’s the kind of “wool” I could stand being pulled over my eyes any day.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 · at 6:47 pm UTC said:
“Interesting comment and article”
I had replied, line-by-line, to “mind and soul on April 20, 2015 · at 3:26 pm UTC” comments above – but the reply has not been posted.
I assume it has been “tossed” – a bit too controversial perhaps. I think it addressed many of your points.
The binned (if it was) reply probably took 10 mins to create.
Sorry – I don’t have time/energy to recreate/attempt to repost via different mod (copied to clipboard then inadvertently hit ctrl c again :-( ).
I fear that your comment has not been “tossed”. Seek it in the thread, please, or perhaps you posted in another thread without realizing it?
Vineyard Moderator – E.K. on April 20, 2015 · at 8:20 pm UTC said:
“I fear that your comment has not been “tossed””
That’s good (but not reassuring, based on my experience of tossed posts [mods/system]).
“Seek it in the thread”
Not here
“perhaps you posted in another thread without realizing it?”
nope – entered and posted as a reply comment to
“mind and soul on April 20, 2015 · at 3:26 pm UTC”
It was inline reply to that post (i.e mind&soul comment followed by my reply) – so probably 2x length of original – still not extraordinarily long though and no error encountered after pressing “Post a comment”..
If you don’t mind a process question – please?
(i) Is next available queue comment “picked” by a “random” mod and posted or tossed
(ii) once a queue item has been opened by a particular mod is access to that item by another mod barred
(iii) if an item is tossed, is it (a) totally irretrievable or (b) accessible by the mod who tossed or (‘c) accessible by all mods? or accessible by other site admin or something else…
Yes, there is a list of “pending” comments and one of “approved” comments. All moderators can see them. When we have questions about a comment (i.e that breach any rule of moderation policy) is left on the sidelines container for evaluation by the blog owner. As I see no comment on this container, is for what I am afraid your comment has been approved, unless prior to my arrival has been moderated by The Saker, which I do not know at this time. I hope I have cleared your doubts.
@Vineyard Moderator – E.K. on April 20, 2015 · at 9:01 pm
I don’t quite understand your reply E.K but thanks very much for trying to explain.
Since I still don’t know what happened (i.e. no error appeared after “Post a Comment”) – perhaps this following question is easier for you to answer and for me to understand your reply?
Question:
If mods don’t have a moderation query for saker I assume they can still individually choose to “toss” a comment. If that is true and once “tossed” (by mods or saker) is it irrecoverable (i.e. no record of the unposted message exists)?
Appreciate your patience.
Yes, it could happen that some moderator has deleted your comment directly, if considered it improper. Not my case.
From what I know, I do not think it can be recovered once removed, but it would be a good question for the webmaster, who also is usually moderating here. Try it tomorrow with him (Vineyard Moderator – H.S.)
I am going to finish my shift of moderation in a while.
To: Vineyard Moderator – H.S.
Vineyard Moderator – E.K. on April 20, 2015 · at 10:27 pm UTC said:
“Yes, it could happen that some moderator has deleted your comment directly, if considered it improper. Not my case.
From what I know, I do not think it can be recovered once removed, but it would be a good question for the webmaster, who also is usually moderating here. Try it tomorrow with him (Vineyard Moderator – H.S.)
I am going to finish my shift of moderation in a while.”
H.S, I had replied to “mind and soul on April 20, 2015 · at 3:26 pm UTC” above. No error was reported when “Post a comment” was pressed. I assume the comment was tossed.
Can you please let me know if there is any way that the comment can be passed back to me?
A subsequent poster had commented on my originating comment – I think my “tossed” comment addressed some of the queries in that post. Perhaps a second mod could provide feedback on which moderation rule my tossed comment was rejected? (rather than no feedback)
anonI’m sorry to read about all the trouble with your comment…I’m sure the moderators didn’t do it on purpose….Anon..please don’t take this wrong…but if you were to take a name it might not be so possible for this unfortunate thing to happen. Just a suggestion.
Ann on April 21, 2015 · at 5:53 am UTC said:
“anonI’m sorry to read about all the trouble with your comment…I’m sure the moderators didn’t do it on purpose….Anon..please don’t take this wrong…but if you were to take a name it might not be so possible for this unfortunate thing to happen. Just a suggestion.”
Hi Ann, I previously posted with a name – but comments were increasingly not posted. I then decided to post without name to see if it helped posting frequency – it has !
anon…I can’t seem to reply to your answer to me…maybe the replies have ‘run out’ but this is really interesting….which name did you use before ? I also moderate but never would delete anything sane….really most of us are pretty sane mods and we don’t want to delete regulars comments ever. Like there is an unspoken policy that regulars generally go through without any moderations….virtually, if not absolutely….that’s why I would suggest a name….but also, this moderating is fairly new and before Saker had to do it all….hundreds of comments per day…that might account for your problem…
“there is an unspoken policy that regulars generally go through without any moderations….virtually, if not absolutely”
Really not, Ann I read all the comments, regulars and news. Sometimes, there are also regulars than noncompliant.
Ann on April 21, 2015 · at 6:20 am UTC said:
“anon…I can’t seem to reply to your answer to me…maybe the replies have ‘run out’ but this is really interesting….which name did you use before ? I also moderate but never would delete anything sane….really most of us are pretty sane mods and we don’t want to delete regulars comments ever. Like there is an unspoken policy that regulars generally go through without any moderations….virtually, if not absolutely….that’s why I would suggest a name….but also, this moderating is fairly new and before Saker had to do it all….hundreds of comments per day…that might account for your problem…”
Ann, i’m almost sure the issue is with a single mod. Since I enjoy debate/posting i’ll not provide my prior name – I think a general style begins to shine through name/no-name and that may prejudice against me.
Unfortunately, with individual interpretation of the mod rules [and prior history ;- ) ] it leaves my only strategy of multiple posting (the same item) hoping a different mod allows progress.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 · at 6:47 pm UTC said:
“Can you name any country…[]…that the majority population has “gained” from that transition.”
No
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 · at 6:47 pm UTC said:
“The ability to,if you have the money that few do,to travel to Vegas or the Riviera.Have a condo in London,or New York,again if you have money.Or maybe an IPhone and Blog on the net.Doesn’t make up for,lowered education,no health care advances,pension plan defaults or elimination,homelessness rising,jobs if you can get one,mostly at low wages,etc.Which this “transition” has brought to 3 out of 4 people in the World.”
True
“And personal incomes will go up 3 or 4 times in 15 years.And GDP by 6 times.”
It hasn’t http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/11/russia-rich-richer-poor-poorer
“The huge gap between rich and poor “largely negates the economic and social achievements of recent years,” the HSE report said.
Yasin added that the study indicated there were “two Russias”. The wealthiest fifth of the population received a pay cheque equivalent to 198% of its value in 1991, while the poorest fifth made only 55% in real terms. In total, 60% of the population has the same real income or less than the average 20 years ago.”
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 · at 6:47 pm UTC said:
“So,maybe,if we are very lucky we will get the same “wool” pulled over our eyes as well.”
Only if you are one of the Russian rich.
Okay, I answered my first question as all 4 got to ask a question, or in Kudrin’s case a series. Remchukov and Kudrin asked very good questions, IMO. The others were about Nemtsov and memorials, and lacked seriousness, although Putin was able to make good points about Kiev’s current political culture–Stalinist (although he didn’t use that term). Kudrin appears to be a member of the government’s economic team, and Putin says publically he has earned his respect.
They are not dangerous for the system.For this reason let them to question Putin.They finished in 90 nties.As the West press Russia all the Kremlins propaganda is against the patriotic (not the insignificant nationalist)movement fx Sergei Glazyev,Mikhail Khazin ,and people who fight for Russian spring like Igor Ivanovich Strelkov …All them who criticism Putin for moderate ,hesitant,and surrounded with liberal advisors who has conektion with oligharhs.
Putin wants these clowns and ass clowns on the stage so everyone understands that he is unintimidated by anything they say, question or rant about. It is his notion of a free society. They are of no consequence, he trusts his people to see through them.
That is why he doesn’t purge them. He lets those fifth columnists inside government fail to act, or fail when they do their administrative work. He knows how to cancel their value and the time invested in them.
An analogy is vaccines. You get a small dose of the disease, your body develops antibodies and you are forever immune.
He’s not only the President, he’s the Wise and Prudent Leader who fears no one and is prepared for any and all enemies and plots.
Remember this: he was chosen by the smartest, shrewdest men in Russian society at the moment in history that had everything at stake. They knew what they had in Putin. He was no more a long shot than when Apple turned to Steve Jobs to come back and save the company.
He plays the long game as well as the short fast game (Crimea, Georgia, Syria chemical weapons, South Stream cancelation, Turkey gas deal, China gas and oil deal) Those were quick and fast moves. Putin is genius.
His long game is EEU, SCO, Eurasia, rebuilding the military and destabilizing NATO and EU, Iran and Pakistan, North Korea and Vietnam. He is laying out a long, fruitful future for Russia, like a good farmer planning his fields, orchards and crops for every season.
Sometimes we just don’t appreciate greatness when its is in our midst. He is historic also. Russia is rising because of him. But he also is strengthening the Russian people by trusting their intellect and ability to think for themselves.
@ LArchmonster445,
Q; You get a small dose of the disease, your body develops antibodies and you are forever immune.
R; Nature doesn’t do ‘for ever’ stuff. It has to be flexible [as it has shown to be] and deal with near extinction events.
I fully agree with your sentiments about a real, true leader not being afraid to face fierce opposition, though. How [ironically] does that compare to our ‘free speech zones, eh?’
I can only ad, what my friend said, when we talked the Putin-achievements recently: “Much is possible… if one as President has a people.like the Russians”
I’s s my warm feeling, he touched with this remark, for the Russian people and their civilization. So my feelings are with Пётр Матрёничев in Moscow on coming Wednesday:
https://www.facebook.com/matrenichev.pv?fref=nf
In my astrological readings of the sky over the northern hemisphere I always have them in mind in the crucial role on the stabilizer of the planet.
Here my first reading after the stroke, I suffered end of March:
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2015/04/4.html
Larchmonter445… said ‘Putin wants these clowns and ass clowns on the stage so everyone understands that he is unintimidated by anything they say, question or rant about. It is his notion of a free society. They are of no consequence, he trusts his people to see through them.’
Yes exactly. Putin even answered them calmly without contempt.
I don’t agree with your … ‘An analogy is vaccines’ … (IMO … vaccines are highly toxic and should be avoided).
Whacko ‘anyi-vacc’ opinions like this just need to get out find a good dose of polio or TB etc to test their theories — then evolution will clear a little more parking space for the rest of us. If any vaccination problems exist they are probably related to the complexities of administering compound shots designed to save money and time for the masses. Pay a bit more and taken them one at a time.
Anonymous, because we have been so consistently lied to by the corporate media, it is possible to be wrong about even familiar things. The proof about the deaths, illnesses & strerility resulting from “immunizations” is overwhelming. Below are just a few links.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/12/13/bought-your-health-brought-to-you-by-wall-street-film/ watch this 90 min video
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-vaccine-coverup-30-years-of-secret-official-transcripts-show-uk-government-experts-cover-up-vaccine-hazards-to-sell-more-vaccines-and-harm-your-kids/5354241
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mandatory-chickenpox-vaccination-increases-disease-rates-study-shows/5424265
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-world-health-organization-who-and-unicef-tetanus-vaccination-campaign-is-a-well-coordinated-forceful-population-control-mass-sterilization-exercise-kenya-catholic-doctors-association/5413360
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/12/13/bought-your-health-brought-to-you-by-wall-street-film/ video
Vaccines unfortunately are big business, with not so great impacts on the end user in a minority of cases. The various influenza vaccines have been creating problems due to adjuvents (enhances the immune response), the use of mercury compounds (preservative which is toxic) and the inability of end users to gain compensation when things go wrong. Have you ever heard of a class action suit in Africa winning in court for anything?
The forced use of vaccines is not exactly what you would expect for basically untested product, from a supplier that has immunity from product liability or prosecution. Bill Gates expects 10 to 15% sterility from the use of certain vaccines in Africa. This gets pretty close to the Eugenics movement and the Gamble family and later “Planned Parenthood”.
We now have a private individual, with his foundations, “The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” and the “Global Fund” funding and deciding the majority of vaccine research, development, production and distribution instead of a wider, government led international consortium. I would consider that sub-optimal at best.
The unused vaccines bought by European governments are now being dumped as foreign aid to African countries. The big suppliers have been paid, and we can be sure their campaign contributions for the next elections have been too.
I thank you for your brave attitude and willingness to be the first in line to test new vaccines.
To Larchmonter 445
Definitely you have covered everything very well, thank you. Short and very clear.
For an example in true statesmanship and confidence, every world leader should study Putin’s Q & A. He held our attention for the entire time … from Russian economics to marriage advice to milk production of cows… he never missed a beat. Awesome!
On the other hand: Oz media has ramped up their ‘anti-Russian’ campaign… last night on SBS TV “Dateline… Putin’s Way” — ‘a documentary investigating the accusations of corruption in Putin’s reign’. This was a sickening BS piece … made in the US … say no more!
Good on you Babushka,
I wrote a comment commending your perspicacity, which unfortunately did not appear. I hope that it was just lost in the Ether. I watched the BS program on SBS (lately SBS does more and more to show that this is the meaning of its logo) and I was as flabbergasted as to the reason of its broadcast as you were. I was adding some notes on the book of Karen Dawisha which you (and others) could have found of interest.
Here are the relevant links:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2014/04/russia
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/feb/05/putins-kleptocracy/
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/dec/18/how-he-and-his-cronies-stole-russia
http://www.thekomisarscoop.com/2015/01/ny-review-of-books-reports-this-comment-but-wont-print-it/
Now, I feel better after reading your post.
“… Alexei Kudrin: one of the figureheads of the Atlantic Integrationists, a hardcore market economist, every offended since he was fired (by Medvedev, of all people!). …”
For longer than a decade КПРФ – the Communist Party of Russian Federation – had been crying, requesting, begging, demanding, asking, would Mr. Putin kindly get rid Russia of Mr. Fifth Columnist Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin? But it seemed as if Mr. Putin could not have lived without him … or perhaps could not have survived without him :-? The same way he could not have survived without the corrupt Serdyukov (out now, КПРФ demanded him out of office too) … and … without Medvedev (still (!) in office, КПРФ has already collected 166 thousand signatures for sending him out to pasture – pronto)… The Kremlin wheels are turning in mysterious ways…
Putin is non-stop looking to get the point, why the 5 column is always so selfish and self centered, very simple description of the parasites
No, if you are confident in your judgment then let your advisors come from divergent, even diametrically opposed points of view. As one POTUS (FDR?) said: “I want my advisors at each others throats”. Allowing yourself to be surrounded by sycophants and yes-men, or those of similar ideological persuasion inevitably results in group-think.
We see that in Washington and Brussels now, and the results are plain. With no discordant voices to keep them sharp, they are continuously on their back foot, reeling in confusion with every move Putin makes. I’ve seen group-think at work far too often to see it as anything but a real killer of flexibility and creativity in your decision making process.
Oh, and by the way, keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer remains good advice.
There is truth in what you are saying. On the other hand, that way also any unprincipled behavior could be explained away as “wise” and its practitioner deemed “astute”. You yourself certainly would not (I hope) associate with and rely on advice of a professional murderer and child molester (for example) “in order to balance your views” and “keep yourself sharp”. Why then would the president of a country be an exception? Yes, the example is extreme – but that is exactly the kind we are here talking about: the lowest types, fifth-columnists – traitors to their own country.
I certainly do not subscribe to the belief that whatever Putin says or does must have some divine meaning: such a belief is true sycophancy.
Just like in Monty Python’s “The Life of Brian”, where Brian unwittingly earns a pack of followers who repeat and imitate anything that he says and does. While running away from them, Brian drops a shoe, which the crowd picks and worships in unison “The Shoe is The Sign!”. Brian tells them not to believe and parrot anything that he says, “You all have to work it out for yourselves” – and they respond in unison “We all have to work it out for ourselves”:-) (See these small mirrors: “He’s Not The Messiah” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA , and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym-k5viJ7tA .)
That Putin is “the only game in town” (at the moment) may indeed be true (and probably is, though even that not necessarily, for it ain’t writ in Heaven), but he should be judged solely on basis of what he does – and not on the imagined properties that those in a state of admirers’ ecstasy import to his person.
Happened Sat 18th!
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/04/18/stop-ttip-global-day-action-draws-tens-thousands
Demonstrators marched around the globe Saturday to protest the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), a ‘free trade’ agreement currently being negotiated between the European Union (EU) and the United States.
Opponents fear that TTIP will erode food, labor and environment
not only erode…US army will keep tight overall control of US economic interest. in short, EU will be de jure occupied by US. first it had to be “bunch” of states (28 EU states+Ukraine)that gave up independence and change it for “freedom & prosperity” of EU and then came US cavalry to seal deal forever. end game.
Who? The state. Why? Easy stuff, actually. Putin is first and foremost an intelligence officer. Morte precisely – COUNTER-intelligence, this was the essence of his posting in East GHermany. He know full well that if you managed to detect a spyring (or influence ring in that instance) it is better to take control of ins and outs and thus, effectively, ring itself, than to destroy it and then spend resources and effort to detect replacements which would inevitably be sent and/or recruited. Destruction is a primary option only if the activity of the ring poses big immediate danger or big longterm dangrer and can not be taken under control quickly enough. Those people are of no particular danger to the state as evidenced by their non-rating compared to the Putin’s support levels, so “keep your friends close and your enemies closer” is arguably best course of action. Some of them are on the short leash of the state (Echo, for example is owned (though not fully by Gazprommedia which in turn is 100% sunsidiary of Gazprom and, in turn, the state). They are allowed to operate as they wish and spew most vehement russophobia , because their target group of listeners are small and to general populace they are prime example of real intentions of “democracy-wielding West”. As a matter of fact, after the death of Novodvorskaya (I think, no introduction is necessary) the Runet was joking along the lines that “comrade Novodvorskaya was posthumously promoted to the rank opf lieutenant-general of FSB” because her idiotic statements disctredited liberast movement more than any state-directed effort possibly could. They could be quashed in an instant, buit it would serve little purpose. Besides you should remember Russian psyche quirks. Russians are generally sympathetic toward those who is unjustly insulted, ostracized and so on – and boy, those people know how to look VERY opressed even if they are just freaks of no interest to anybody. So it’s additionaly, battefield control denial. Their field is one of Soviet dissidents – ones being opressed, silenced, insulted and shot. They are denied this role, as they are invited to the highest-level gatherings. Noone could say and expect to be believed that they are denied access to press or ability to “speak to power”. So. yes, there are 5th column in Russian media. And it is here to stay for all Russians to see all its ugliness in bright spotlights. USSR practices of prhohibition didn’t work well, so…
@Andrey – I would generally tend to agree with you. You pretty much said what I was already thinking. The presence of the liberals gave Putin an excellent chance to respond, and for the most part he did a great job.
With that said, one thing I was dissapointed in was his reply to Kudrin. A number of people have discussed this over the last few years, but one of Putin’s greatest weaknesses has been economics – in particular his inability to assert a coherent alternative to neoliberal economic doctrine.
I’m not sure to what extent this is due to him being a true-believer in neoliberal economics himself, or a lack of strength to challenge certain oligarchs head-on in that arena…
Thank you, Saker. I had no idea about the identity of these people.
I only wonder who controls online RT, which seems to echoes so many MSM deceptions. What bugs me most is that it presents Al qaeda & ISIS as if they were not creations of the US and allies. Also it constantly presents every set of “negotiations” as if they were sincere when they are only masks for aggression by US & allies.
If it’s too undiplomatic for a state-controlled media to disclose these things, why not let guest interviews express it?
Penelope on April 19, 2015 · at 7:58 pm UTC said:
“…I only wonder who controls online RT”
http://rt.com/usa/rt-government-broadcasting-radio/
“So call RT “state-funded” if you must, but if you want to “call a duck a duck,” as NPR’s host so eloquently put it, you might want to consider the pond we’re all swimming in.”
Penelope on April 19, 2015 · at 7:58 pm UTC said:
“…which seems to echoes so many MSM deceptions. What bugs me most is that it presents Al qaeda & ISIS as if they were not creations of the US and allies. Also it constantly presents every set of “negotiations” as if they were sincere when they are only masks for aggression by US & allies.
If it’s too undiplomatic for a state-controlled media to disclose these things, why not let guest interviews express it?”
Indeed – it does stink.
The Russian oligarchy are just a part of the world oligarchy – no better (but just as bad).
I agree, what Penelope at 7:58 pm and Anonymous at 9:48 pm say about RT is true.
Hmm, perhaps the idiots that run the RT also think: “if we adulterate the news just a bit so as not to squarely contradict the western MSM, it will be easier for average already MSM-brainwashed Americans to swallow the truth portion of the news”. But if so (though a stretch), who needs such “news”, really…
And still another “reason” why the RT “news” are so sanitized, might be the same “reason” why Putin and Lavrov ad nauseam use the term “our partners” – when referring to the bloody murderers in Kiev and their criminal sponsors in Washington and elsewhere. Which ties very nicely with the world-oligarchy-observation above.
Johan, thanks for your comment, but I still don’t understand why the occasional guest can’t say the truth, or why they decided to purge the comments so there’s nobody sensible allowed on there anymore. I truly believe that whoever is making the decisions about
RT is 5th column.
And Anonymous, obviously ALL the Russian oligarchs aren’t pro-US or Liberal or 5th column or whatever.
If RT were so important to the administration and Putin (which it allegedly is) then a 5th column in it would not be tolerated.
Putin and the administration are part of the 5th column – part of the oligarchy. Putin is just a good talking head and not even that sometimes e.g:
Josh on April 19, 2015 · at 11:15 pm UTC said:
“@Andrey – I would generally tend to agree with you. You pretty much said what I was already thinking. The presence of the liberals gave Putin an excellent chance to respond, and for the most part he did a great job.
With that said, one thing I was dissapointed in was his reply to Kudrin. A number of people have discussed this over the last few years, but one of Putin’s greatest weaknesses has been economics – in particular his inability to assert a coherent alternative to neoliberal economic doctrine.
I’m not sure to what extent this is due to him being a true-believer in neoliberal economics himself, or a lack of strength to challenge certain oligarchs head-on in that arena… “
Penelope on April 20, 2015 · at 2:22 am UTC said:
“And Anonymous, obviously ALL the Russian oligarchs aren’t pro-US or Liberal or 5th column or whatever.”
By definition, one thing is for sure, NONE of them are Liberal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
“Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.
This is the root of the problem – Russia is no different to the West.
“Russia is no different to the West” You mean, Russia is no different from the West, right?
Anonymous on April 20, 2015 · at 11:10 am UTC said:
““Russia is no different to the West” You mean, Russia is no different from the West, right?”
nope – distance can be stated as a length before arrival at a destination e.g “I still have 10 miles to go”. If there are 0 miles to go then they are at the same point.
from is the length from the starting point
I just saw your “This is the root of the problem – Russia is no different to the West” and then “from is the length from the starting point” etc. – which is even more confusing!…
Could you please explain what you actually meant by your “Russia is no different to the West”?
Thank you.
Penelope, I am unable to paste links here for some reason, but if you type in google “Isis US creation RT”, numerous articles come up including a you tube (RT) video, actually titled “This is why the US created ISIS”.
RT gets a lot of stick lately from both the US state department and readers of this blog, too, it appears, but undeservedly so, IMHO. They are still the best lot out there.
We mustn’t forget that they broadcast to a mass audience, there has to be a degree of adjustment.
I agree with some of your problems at RT.But still compared to the Western MSM they are better.Their interviews and editorials are more informative on the Russian view than the strait articles.My only real complaint is their comments section.It seems to be non-moderated (or very little).And is more infested by Russophobes than even the Western MSM pages.I find it almost impossible to read the “comments” without gagging.They may want to show a degree of “free speech” there.But they are being trolled by every ignorant Russia-hater that can type.I think that is a bad mistake on RT’s part to allow that.
Here is an entry for Saker’s Sandbox. I should dearly like to know what anyone thinks about any portion of this, which I found quite mentally/emotionally provocative:
http://www.sott.net/article/295289-Epidemic-depression-as-a-wake-up-call-to-humanity.
It’s not predominantly about depression, but about all manner of things. Do read it. Quite unique!
Penelope, Thanks for that link! How to keep reality from depressing one’s self, developing an anomie? First is to understand that one isn’t alone in knowing reality, and finding someone likeminded is the first step to avoiding depression. Becoming a member of this blog community is one example as we’re constantly reminded that we’re not the only ones who “get it.” Writing and sharing parts of the reality we uncover with others also helps since it’s an active discourse dispelling the loneliness that contributes to depression. I have a shirt emblazoned with the sentence “Who I am Makes a Difference,” which I try to live up to ethically/morally daily whether I wear it or not. The hardest thing to counter is the sense of helplessness/inability to make any difference–knowing you’re correct in being defiant isn’t enough quite often. Even if you can’t make an impact on the big picture, you can always make a difference in the region where you reside by helping your community and thus parry the attempt to further atomize your existence.
It’s very hard being a good person when power is held by very evil people with a seemingly invincible grip on the positions of power. I’ve spent my life learning about the how and why humanity’s arrived in our deplorable state, and the answers I’ve found aren’t comforting whatsoever, not to mention my explanation being very controversial since few have acquired the knowledge to understand/contemplate its veracity.
The essay was good. Reminded me of Orwell’s thoughts as expressed through Winston Smith at the beginning of 1984 or of the premise for the film Matrix once you’ve taken the red pill.
Outlaw Historian, I was interested in the research that says a group of people can “with intentionality” affect the outcome of the roll of the dice, literally.
Interesting article!
One thing said was
“The kind of depression I’m talking about is the type that drives people to suicide, often multiple times over long periods of their lives.”
Yeah — I once had a friend like that. He was driven to suicide over a dozen times. I finally had to drop him as a friend because I was starting to get depressed going to all his funerals.
I still haven’t completely figured out how be awake and living in this fascist empire and not be depressed. But like a told a shrink once, ‘sure I’m depressed, but i don’t let it get me down’.
It’s not really ‘depression’, though — that’s one of those overloaded words that can mean too many different things. I’m weary much of the time, but I’m not so much depressed as just really pissed off. There’s a whole ‘Zen of being pissed off’ that one can practice. Suchness — such as it is. Sometimes you can pass it on to the oppressors, and they walk away depressed, and pass it on to their friends — who may even resign their position as a senator (this merges into ‘black magick’. Well, maybe that’s what happened – hard to be sure, but now and then you are presented with a moment of opportunity where you can strike if you are are ready and waiting for it.
—-
“Suppose you are involved in a traffic accident where you missed a red light and will T-bone a car at 60MPH, careening through the driver’s door killing him instantly.”
It doesn’t work like it for me. I was at a red light and I saw it turn green and I just sat there for 10 seconds. The the car, hidden from view, in the other direction who missed his red light whipped through the intersection, and then I went ahead. It was only in retrospect that I realized what had happened and what I had done. This seems to be more the way ‘magick’ usually works, on a different level of consciousness entirely — if you ‘let it work’. If you maintain intentionallity, and don’t let the skepticism, belief systems, ‘logic’, or ego mess it all up. You don’t do it, angels don’t do it — it — existence — does it (if sometimes it happens).
So just maintain intentionallity: Let Obama and the fascists go fuqq themselves, as is their inherent fate — if people don’t support them by buying into their nonsense.
Blue, I too have been involved in circumstances where my conscious mind had nothing to do w my performing the saving action. I found fascinating the crystals anecdote in the link.
Years ago I visited a doctor whose radio program said she could cure me of allergies. I dearly loved grapefruit, but it set off sinuses and sneezing. The radio doctor said she wd treat me with something involving auras– I can’t recall the exact name. She had me lie down and while holding various vials in my hand raise my arm against light resistance which she applied. After each successfully raised arm she wd change the vial. Suddenly I cd not overcome her resistance, and she said, “Oh I see you react to grapefruit.” She then did something w accupressure while I held the vial of grapefruit essence– and I’ve never had a problem w grapefruit since.
I’m sure you see how all this fits w the article I linked– w life and entropy and all the rest of it.
be aware of “psychic attack”——-bad energies coalesce together and go round everywhere just looking for weakness
hence St Paul, “put on the armour of light”
this is a visualisation exercise for self protection, eg aura, and you need to develop mechanisms for sending energies/problems to be earthed and also sent to the spiritual energy of the sun.
To Penelope
Here is the partial respond
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chemtrails+documentary
at the same time high deficiency in vitamin ‘D’ is also a contributor. To much cloudy skies…………no enough sunshine
Anonymous, thanks. My doctor agrees on Vit D being important– and fish oil– & avoiding GMO-altered food. Thanks for the link to all the chemtrail stuff. I don’t know a lot about chemtrails, except that where I am in Central Coast California the sky returns to the deep blue it’s sposed to be after a hard rain. It stays that way till those little planes come out & leave their contrails, which slowly spread out to leave a perpetually hazy sky. They always spray exactly the same pattern, always early in the AM when I’m out w the chickens.
I put your link w the chemtrail file & will get to it eventually. Thanks again.
In the 80’s, a scene from a movie, in which a veteran was spat on by “hippy chicks,” was canonised into history, when Reagan cited the tale. Nothing like that had ever happened; otherwise, the story would have been mentioned in one of 1000 US papers. The daily press, in ’68, was 99.9% pro-war. The 0.1% was the Daily Worker.
For anti-war activists, it would have been unthinkable to cheer the killing of US soldiers. Veterans were welcome and honoured by dissidents, the slogan was, “Bring them home!”
Last spring, on some some Kiev website, I saw a letter from a Russian dissident. The title was, “Dear Ukrainians, you must learn to kill.”
At that time, the video appeared of the departure of buses full of children from Slaviansk; there was cannon fire in the background, yet a Moscow Times piece dared to cite another liberal paper, which explained that people were offered free vacations, to get them to leave Donbass for Russia. They also explained that no refugees were crossing. In the 60’s, the office of any leftist weekly giving similar vile dishonest anti-American propaganda, would have been burned down as a nest of traitors by the construction workers who regularly attacked demonstrations.
Yet, in Russia, there is no violence against such traitorous press, even when the Kievans killed Russians’ relatives and attacked their border posts.
Giving front seats to the Fifth Column may be annoying, but it is a very smart move; it shows that in Russia they have something we do not have, freedom of information in the mainstream media. Good for them. While I find Russia’s legal system to be odiously idiotic, even worse than ours, their freedom of the press is something we should wish for here in the West.
matt janovic, Russian constitution (I don’t know about the legal system) was imposed upon them by the US at the time of collapse of USSR. Don’t know why there has not yet been constitutional reform.
Maybe too many Liberals to allow changes thru the Duma?
More info about legal obstacles to changing econ system: http://lit.md/files/nstarikov/rouble_nationalization-the_way_to_russia%27s_freedom.pdf
The historical parts read almost like a novel; fairly entertaining.
Thanks, I began reading it, very interesting.
Actually, I was thinking not of the control of the monetary system but of the problem of prisoners–particularly political–of trial delays, of frame-ups, and of judicial torture/killings.
The Russians are absurdly reasonable in their foreign policy; I wish they could free their legal system from old traditions.
Penelope on April 20, 2015 · at 2:53 am UTC said:
“Maybe too many Liberals to allow changes thru the Duma?”
Do you have a problem with Liberals (those wishing for free will and equality)?
or a problem with those who only have a free will with western leaning preferences?
or a problem with those who wish for equality (including the the removal of economic inequalities among people?)
or
something else?
Penelope on April 20, 2015 · at 2:53 am UTC said:
“matt janovic, Russian constitution (I don’t know about the legal system) was imposed upon them by the US at the time of collapse of USSR. Don’t know why there has not yet been constitutional reform.”
Points toward the Russian oligarchy still working in hand with other oligarchies, good cop/bad – no?
In Russia, liberals are xenophiliacs, who suffer from a mental disability, leading them to idealise and admire foreigners. Tolstoy spoke of the problem of Russians who tried not to be Russians.
While I personally prefer, in the West, xenophiliacs to xenophobists, I see Russian xenophiliacs as traitors to their own people and as a threat to me, personally. They encourage Western aggression, leading us into murderous destructive wars, such as Iraq or Yugoslavia, into which we would have never thought of wading in, as long as the Soviet Union was there.
When he was General Secretaryt, Gorbachev suffered from xenophilia. Otherwise, he would have never agreed to abandon his alliance and his army, for a mess of pottage.
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 11:44 am UTC said:
“I see Russian xenophiliacs as traitors to their own people and as a threat to me, personally. They encourage Western aggression, leading us into murderous destructive wars, such as Iraq or Yugoslavia, into which we would have never thought of wading in, as long as the Soviet Union was there.”
Do you think the ruling Russian oligarchy who has organised the Russian society in the following video are/have performed “Eastern” aggression on all Russians (excepting those Russians with the nice nice yachts in this video) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13575515
You are right, the untaxed thieves are the problem, in any country.
My main concern is that Putin’s tolerance for heavy-handed policing makes the West’s sabotage work so much easier.
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 2:18 pm UTC said:
“You are right, the untaxed thieves are the problem, in any country.”
Even if you tax $1B at 50% you still have $500M.
What is your definition of the “theft”?
What taxation rate solves the “theft”?
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 11:44 am UTC said:
“When he was General Secretaryt, Gorbachev suffered from xenophilia. Otherwise, he would have never agreed to abandon his alliance and his army, for a mess of pottage.”
Evidence that this amount of power needs to be taken away from heroes.
If Putin does have similar power and is good (not yet demonstrated) then he must redesign the system for his successor (who could be bad).
We should not depend on heroes or provide hero worship.
You believe in limited terms, the balance of legislative, judiciary, and executive powers, in democracy, parliament, and all that jazz. Democracy has shown itself to be a deadly bellicose fraud, in which change is impossible.
My preference is anarchy, although autocracy can work fine, as long as it is coupled with transparency and free media.
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 2:47 pm UTC said:
“although autocracy can work fine, as long as it is coupled with transparency and free media.”
You mean a benevolent autocrat? – like Raul Castro fom this list http://society-politics.blurtit.com/324285/what-are-some-examples-of-an-autocratic-government ?
or has a practical example never existed?
“My preference is anarchy”
Do you agree with this statement http://drlwilson.com/Articles/POLITICS.HTM as, at least, a partial description:
“Advantages. Anarchy is probably more fun for the strong and intelligent people who can stay ahead of everyone else. It offers them the most freedom and power. It is also simple, does not require learning rules and regulations, involves no bureaucracy, voting, court houses, jails, or any other trappings of modern society. It is very cheap to administer, in other words.”
?
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 2:47 pm UTC said
“You believe in limited terms, the balance of legislative, judiciary, and executive powers, in democracy, parliament, and all that jazz. Democracy has shown itself to be a deadly bellicose fraud, in which change is impossible.”
Your words, not mine – I referred to redesign of the system. I did not stipulate the structure of that system in any particular detail (other than non-autocratic) neither did I refer to “the balance of legislative, judiciary, and executive powers, in democracy”
In particular, I have no interest in democracy organised on the basis of Russian/Western predatory Capitalism.
I apologize, I thought you were a normal believer in democracy.
It seems to me that only autocrats can save their countries, in a catastrophic state of impending war and climate change.
matt janovic on April 20, 2015 · at 4:31 pm UTC said:
“I apologize, I thought you were a normal believer in democracy.
It seems to me that only autocrats can save their countries, in a catastrophic state of impending war and climate change.”
I understand.
But the problem remains -we have no evidence that Putin is benign and we do have evidence (his oligarchy) that he (and the Russian administration/oligarchy) is malevolent.
My, my, Saker, your roots are showing.
I thought it was terrific.
Was a little lamb led out for the slaughter? Maybe. But was it Putin? Come on!
I thought he left them dead at the crossroads with stakes through their hearts.
http://rt.com/news/250981-russian-threat-nato-hodges/
US army commander in Europe says Russia is a “real threat” urging NATO to stay united. The alliance is not interested in a “fair fight with anyone” and wants to have “overmatch in all systems,” Lieutenant-General Frederick “Ben” Hodges believes.
“There is a Russian threat,” Hodges told the Telegraph, maintaining that Russia is involved in ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine.
A key objective for NATO is not to let Russia outreach it in terms of capabilities, the general said.
Another one of Lavrov’s Facebook ‘friends’ spouting off.
Anonymous, Sounds like Full Spectrum Dominance. Lots of people still don’t realize this is official, published US military doctrine. I didn’t either till I read Wm Engdahl’s book by the same title.
Btw he has a new one out called Target: China. It’s a best-seller in China.
It should be a best seller in China.I hope the Chinese fully realize they are the main target.Russia is seen as the warm-up to attack China.Get rid of Russia, and then China is left without a powerful friend, and on their own to face the might of the Empire.Its the traditional story,its been around for thousands of years.Power,and power politics doesn’t change much.More refined with the rise of the “modern” World.But the aims are the same as in the days of the Roman Empire.The answer is the same as well.You make sure, if possible, your “powerful” friend stays powerful,and your friend.
“… Get rid of Russia, and then China …”
Sorry, but I couldn’t help recalling that big Internet chorus solemnly singing a big Requiem Mass to the poor Yankee Empire in 2008 and thereabout… Is it indeed possible that we are now hearing a joyful Resurrection Chant?!… What happened :-? :-!… Would someone please explain………
http://rt.com/news/250401-nato-activity-increase-russia/
He also said that the US plans to supply its Eastern European allies with JASSM-ER long-range aviation cruise missiles, which will enable NATO warplanes to hit targets 1,300 kilometers inside the Russian territory.
“In the case of a military conflict, critical facilities on the territory of almost the entire European part of Russia will be vulnerable to NATO’s air attack, with the flight time of the missiles reduced by half,” Kartapolov warned.
The General Staff official also spoke about increased intelligence activity by NATO in the Black Sea.
On Wikipedia (yeah I know) you can read that Finland and Poland already got them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM
Couldn’t care less ’bout that dumb missile … but am crazy about cats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgl9lcRSeaU !
Me too. What a gorgeous cat, and so intelligent! They are such good communicators.
How about this little guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSkDGa9Ei4U
That kitten with balloons was so cute!!!
Check this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15MXzs2mMdg
:))) crazy kot.
Adorable. A cat that talks back.
Just proves once again that Russian society is freer and more open than the West. Would you ever see four dissident activists publically asking questions at an American or Canadian leader’s press conference? Never!
Calm down Saker. From my point of view everything is rolling as it should.
Irina Khakamada. No there are no Russian troops in Ukraine. If you don’t believe me, ask Chief of Ukraine’s General Staff. “We are not fighting against the Russian army.” What more can be said?
Alexei Venediktov. Clever jibe mentioning icons and flags. “What’s wrong with people coming and placing an icon or laying flowers there? If this does not inconvenience anybody I don’t see any problem here. I will talk to the Mayor about this without fail to make sure that there are no impediments here”. Ball is in Mayor’s yard now. And if i remember correctly Moscow Mayor’s office,according to Evgeny Fedorov is riddled with 5th columnists.
Alexei Kudrin. “To begin with, you were among the authors of the programme of the development of our country and its economy through 2020. “2020” is a well-known programme and it has not changed in any significant way. If you and I overlooked something, this has to be our fault, including your fault.” And sometime after he mention how opposition have it easy. They can shout but they do not bear any responsibility and in the end,people decide/vote. So effect of their work is shown in Duma representation. Meaning, miniscule to nonexistent
Konstantin Remchukov. His question is even not worth mentioning.
Price of milk 16 rubles per liter for production and around 70 in the end.
At each and every question he did one same thing. “Yes,things could be better. I am sure that those in charge (government/Medvedev,Moscow Mayor,Regional governor,…) are already working on it,but i will inform them about your problems. Not did he just directed criticism to places that are really deserving of criticism. But he gave them opportunity to change for the better in front of the whole world. And the last,but not the least,he generated public consent for the next set of changes to come.
So,those four were used sooo much. I just wonder did they even notice it? All that criticism during those hours was put to such good use,that i in my wildest dreams have not imagined such thing possible.
As for who invited them and why? VVP in person. To allow them another blunder so he can further glue country together. Those who actually called them thought they can score some points against him and were outplayed with style. They are predictable low grade players.
No need to worry. He just outdone himself, and outplayed everyone else on the field.
Too bad he didn’t invite the US Ambassador to ask a question.That would have been unbelievably funny seeing that.I imagine the Ambassador’s head would have exploded in frustration after Putin made him look a worse fool on TV.
To Dragan:
Brilliant comment
Dragan on April 19, 2015 · at 8:48 pm UTC
“Calm down Saker…He just outdone himself, and outplayed everyone else on the field.”
“Glory to Putin, glory to Putin the hero”
I’m nearly as sick of Putin the oligarch as this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3dR7u7TPNo
You are sick? Take some vitamin D and lie down for a couple of days.
Dragan on April 20, 2015 · at 4:13 pm UTC said:
“You are sick? Take some vitamin D and lie down for a couple of days.”
I feel pretty good today.
All oligarch’s are sick – are you sick?
I think in politics,its always a choice between evils.That comes from the individualism in humans in which we dislike being “ruled” no matter by whom.But in this case its more than that type of choice.I don’t consider Putin some kind of “God” nor want to see a “cult of personality” develop.But I do see in him a very intelligent leader that strives to improve his country and the lives of its people.And his countries vital interests. I can’t think in today’s World of any ruler like that (maybe XI is close) of a major power.And because of those reasons I support him.Has he made mistakes? Of course,everyone does.But they are few,and far between.But when he does,they should be talked about and corrected.Has he grown rich as Russia’s leader.I don’t think we know for sure,probably.Very few leaders don’t,so it wouldn’t be surprising,nor would it change my opinion of him.But there is another point on that question.He could have grown much,much,richer by selling out his country and people to the West.They reward their stooges well.And one as important as Putin, could have written his own ticket,if he was willing to join the traitor elite in Europe. I think as someone said, his previous intelligence career helps him to understand how to overcome (and recognize) problems.And, as was written once before about him,there is a humanitarian streak in him that many miss.I believe when history is written (if humanity survives to write history,and its not written by his enemies) he will rest securely in the list of Russia’s most important and greatest leaders.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“I think in politics,its always a choice between evils.That comes from the individualism in humans in which we dislike being “ruled” no matter by whom.
This is a great history of the US http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30620.htm , I quote:
“To achieve any redemption for Americans [inserted => or Russians], to make possible any more just, humane and life-honoring society, will require complete abandonment of the system of Predatory Capitalism. If offers no prospect of reform or improvement and we have all been witness to the idiocy of the so-called “democratic process” in action for generations now.”
Did you know that Russia/USSR was not based on Marxism after a short 7 years post 1917?
http://makealeftturn.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-marxist-were-bolsheviks.html
“Some academics argue that the Soviet Union was not based on Marxist principles at all. They argue that the Bolsheviks had ‘no prospect of creating a society without exploitation and oppression’ and that it would not have mattered whether Bukharin, Trotsky or Stalin had determined the direction of the party after Lenin’s death.4 Indeed many Marxists in 1917, such as Karl Kautsky, argued the Bolsheviks had broken with Marxism. This opinion will be put to the test in this work
….[]…
When it came to putting the theories into practice the Bolsheviks again had much success. However world war, foreign invasion, blockade and civil war, the massive economic decline this created, the poverty, starvation and disease that followed and which also led to the destruction of much of the working class, combined with the failure of the revolution to spread, to make it impossible for the Bolsheviks to remain committed to their theoretical programme in the years from 1918 to 1923. Where they did deviate from it, however, it was always seen as a tactical retreat in order to solve an immediate problem, by which time, it was hoped, the revolution would have spread, the productive forces would have increased and the building of socialism would resume.
From 1924, however, and the rise of Stalin to the leadership of the party, theories such as ‘socialism in one country’ were fundamental breaks from the Marxist heritage of the party. A new ‘class’ of bureaucrats developed that acted like a capitalist class and exploited the working class once more. In 1928 the first ‘Five Year Plan’ indicated that the new emphasis was on capital accumulation. The so-called ‘Old Bolsheviks’ were discredited, arrested and/or executed. Workers’ rights were withdrawn and workers resumed their subordinate role. The state was strengthened as the leaders sought economic and military power. In short, there had been an internal counter-revolution that had given up the ideas of Marx and returned to capitalism, albeit in a new form.”
So, there is no necessity for there always to be a choice between evils – there is a design for a society without exploitation and oppression – but it has not yet been given a chance.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
But in this case its more than that type of choice.
No, it isn’t. See my response to you above at Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 6:47 pm UTC said:
“Can you name any country…[]…that the majority population has “gained” from that transition.”
i.e. Russia is based on exactly the same sort of democracy as the West – predatory Capitalism.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“I don’t consider Putin some kind of “God” nor want to see a “cult of personality” develop.But I do see in him a very intelligent leader”
Undoubtedly – nevertheless an oligarch in charge of an administration based on the root problem: predatory capitalism.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“that strives to improve his country and the lives of its people.”
No – only some of those people as demonstrated in the BBC video (yes, the BBC are generally the ultimate presstitudes) I posted above that (I think) you watched and the Guardian article http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/11/russia-rich-richer-poor-poorer
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“And his countries vital interests.”
I’m no longer sure if he is a nationalist. Since he is an oligarch, there is the possibility that he is a member of a global oligarchy with no particular interest in Russia (the Yemen decision influences me here).
If he is a nationalist then it is sibling rivalry between oligarchies – none of this for your benefit.
Further, nationalism is a pretty infantile disease when the big picture is considered. You may like a 4 fold income increase but for most people in the West (&Russia) that won’t make a difference between life&death. Not so for the 35,000 kids who die of starvation/day described here http://www.starvation.net/. Hundreds of Libyans are frequently drowning in the Mediterranean – even as a result of the oligarchies no fly zone over Libya as the EU discusses immigration limits. As a race we should become less parochial.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“I can’t think in today’s World of any ruler like that (maybe XI is close) of a major power.And because of those reasons I support him.”
Does anything I say change that?
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“Has he made mistakes? Of course,everyone does.But they are few,and far between.”
Not according to that BBC video/Guardian article.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“But when he does,they should be talked about and corrected.”
Agreed
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“Has he grown rich as Russia’s leader.I don’t think we know for sure,probably.Very few leaders don’t,so it wouldn’t be surprising,nor would it change my opinion of him.”
That’s not good – it doesn’t have to be this way – I hope you change your mind.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“But there is another point on that question.He could have grown much,much,richer by selling out his country and people to the West.”
Presumably his other Russian oligarch compatriots are competing for some of the same pie – I assume that other “sibling rivalry” must limit Putin’s share. Of course I have no idea of that detail. Perhaps Putin’s oligarchical tendencies are wighted toward thirst for power more than money.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“They reward their stooges well.And one as important as Putin, could have written his own ticket,”
Although he wears no watches we have no idea of his wealth – the fact that he could have written his own ticket is horrendous.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“if he was willing to join the traitor elite in Europe.”
As above – he may already have written his own ticket – this does not depend on being a member of the elite in Europe it depends on being a member of the elite.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
” I think as someone said, his previous intelligence career helps him to understand how to overcome (and recognize) problems.And, as was written once before about him,there is a humanitarian streak in him that many miss.”
Do you mean when he was throwing that expensive watch into the concrete at the base of some important building project (see youtube somewhere)
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 • at 10:14 pm UTC said:
“I believe when history is written (if humanity survives to write history,and its not written by his enemies) he will rest securely in the list of Russia’s most important and greatest leaders.”
No comment – other than what has already been written, of course.
Russia’s attitude reminds me of that of the Catholic Church in the past: ready to evangelize in far-away lands, where it’s not that important what people think of it; and neglecting to take care of the problems at home, which is all that really matters.
FLOR solitaria on April 19, 2015 · at 9:20 pm UTC said:
“Russia’s attitude reminds me of that of the Catholic Church in the past: ready to evangelize in far-away lands, where it’s not that important what people think of it”
http://inneroptics.net/mayan_kingdom_book/decline/
“The Spanish colonization entailed forced labor and mandatory conversion to Christianity. Those Maya who refused to give up their pantheistic religious practices were arrested and tortured for heresy.”
Nice of you to provide a very well known example, but what I had in mind was the overall attitude of the Catholic Church in the more recent past, like the last 200 years perhaps. It was heavily infiltrated by its enemies, and it kept sending missionaries to Asia and Africa where the chances of making new converts were low, instead of keeping them closer to home in order to educate the people in its own backyard. Sometimes it’s not very useful to try to conquer new lands – metaphorically speaking – if all is not well at home.
FLOR solitaria on April 20, 2015 · at 3:34 am UTC said:
on theology, the catholic church is deluded – Epicurus put it like this:
“The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so, cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are both able and willing. If they have the will to remove evil and cannot, then they are not omnipotent. If they can, but will not, then they are not benevolent. If they are neither able nor willing, then they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, how does it exist?”
On a societal level – here’s an e.g of how much good they do http://www.highstrangeness.tv/articles/catholics.php
“With over a Billion adherents and growing, the Catholic Church is an immensely powerful institution. As an organization that claims to represent God and do good, it has tremendous potential to create positive change. Yet, the Catholic Church has a long history of supporting evil and continues to cause tremendous suffering while doing little real good…”
The rest is a good read…
You obviously didn’t understand what I said. Well, comparisons, metaphors and the like are tricky things. But I’m sure others understood.
FLOR solitaria on April 20, 2015 · at 3:34 pm UTC said:
“You obviously didn’t understand what I said. Well, comparisons, metaphors and the like are tricky things. But I’m sure others understood.”
I sort of lost interest in your post after your mention of the heinous Catholic Church.
Can you provide a better example and i’ll refocus?
Nah, I don’t think I’ll bother just for you.
FLOR solitaria on April 20, 2015 · at 10:16 pm UTC said:
“Nah, I don’t think I’ll bother just for you.”
No surprise – didn’t think you’d be able to come up with anything.
@ Anonymous on April 21, 2015 – at 6:02 am UTC
There are known knowns and unknown unknowns. The known knowns are things we know we know, and the unknown unknowns are things we don’t know we don’t know. Which in your case would be what I or anybody else who is a total stranger to you would come up with.
FLOR solitaria on April 22, 2015 · at 3:51 am UTC said:
“@ Anonymous on April 21, 2015 – at 6:02 am UTC
There are known knowns and unknown unknowns. The known knowns are things we know we know, and the unknown unknowns are things we don’t know we don’t know. Which in your case would be what I or anybody else who is a total stranger to you would come up with.”
In short, do you mean:
(i) known knowns = knowns
(ii) unknown unknowns = unknowns
?
If so, why didn’t you just save your breath and say:
There are knowns and unknowns?
Just to be absolutely clear, when you say:
“Which in your case would be what I or anybody else who is a total stranger to you would come up with.”
do you consider me as something you don’t know that you don’t know.
Oops, that’s not really clear at all – now is it, to be sure to be sure? (as they say in Ireland).
The entire essence of Christianity is “Evangelism”.Its much the same with Islam I believe.That is why you see Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormon missionaries come by your home (in the US at least).Christianity was built on conversions of unbelievers.Devout believers consider it God’s will that they attempt to covert others to “save their souls”.And not to try is disobeying God.Do those missionaries really think they will success,I don’t know.Probably some do,some don’t.But they go anyway.Even knowing in some cases they could face death.And in some cases have been killed for it.I don’t think we can consider those people as cynical.Misguided perhaps.But cynical people usually won’t face death for faith.
Evangelizing is ok, but overstretching is not. Also charity should begin at home.
Uncle Bob 1 on April 20, 2015 · at 10:29 pm UTC said:
“I don’t think we can consider those people as cynical.Misguided perhaps.”
Uncle Bob has, at least, sensed the opiate and may not like it…if the wool has not been taken away it is starting to loosen.
FLOR solitaria on April 21, 2015 · at 1:08 am UTC said:
“Evangelizing is ok, but overstretching is not. Also charity should begin at home.”
Good Christian attitude.
e.g. http://melindacousins.com/2014/01/29/can-we-please-stop-saying-charity-begins-at-home/
“…[]…
2. It’s a false equivalence
I don’t want to get bogged down in ‘ranking’ needs, but to me there is a qualitative difference between people struggling to afford the costs of living in Australia and people dying of preventable diseases because they don’t have access to clean drinking water or basic sanitation in other parts of the world. I understand that I am generalising here, and I know there are people in my own backyard who are doing it tough, but mostly I think that our perspective is a little off.
Just for one example, the current Australian single pension is $751 per fortnight. We have widely available free health care and education. On the other hand, 1.3 billion people in developing countries live on less than $7 per week, 768 million people do not have access to safe drinking water and over 1 billion have no access to basic sanitation.
In 2013, the Australian government spent 27 times as much on welfare/social security as it did on foreign aid. Whatever you think about the adequacy of Australian unemployment or pension rates, I think it is clear we are not comparing apples and apples here.
…[]…
So … this is my question for today, and I’m aware that it is idealistic and unlikely … but whatever debates we have about generosity, global poverty, foreign aid, and caring for the needy at home, can we at least stop pretending that the saying “Charity begins at home” is some kind of magic bullet that trumps all rational discussion?!”
It would appear that many anonymous people have trouble in grasping the concept of analogy.
I was comparing two strategies, and identifying the strong and the weak points in them.
But all is good when Christianity is defended.
FLOR solitaria on April 22, 2015 · at 1:59 am UTC said:
“But all is good when Christianity is defended.”
The Westminster Confession of Faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Confession_of_Faith
states:
“”that the Pope is the Antichrist, that the Roman Catholic mass is a form of idolatry””
Would you defend Calvinist Christianity? or, perhaps, wish the Conquistadors exterminate them too?
It is possible that the current pope and his wrecking crew are working for the antichrist.
FLOR solitaria on April 22, 2015 · at 9:47 pm UTC said:
“It is possible that the current pope and his wrecking crew are working for the antichrist.”
FLOR solitaria, i.m Anon that, until now pretty constantly, replies.
I think you are a good person – but misguided [(narrow is the way :-)].
I’m neither Pope, YWH, God or Allah but do, please, consider Epicurus words.
We don’t know what came before or after but we can love each other now.
@ Anonymous on April 22, 2015 – at 12:14 pm UTC
I consider you as something I don’t want to know.
FLOR solitaria on April 22, 2015 · at 9:53 pm UTC said:
“@ Anonymous on April 22, 2015 – at 12:14 pm UTC
I consider you as something I don’t want to know.”
Since i’m human referring to me as “something” highlights your total ignorance.
I consider you as someone I don’t want to know.
We have these disparaging people in our system in North America. I know them, you know them. At least the Russian Joe can still make a distinction as to what these people represent. Here, well we know the answer. The sheep are led to the shearing, they know not the truth from the incessant lies fed to them. I hope Putin can keep his head, his nation is counting on him.
I think every rational person on the planet is also counting on him.
Anonymous on April 19, 2015 · at 10:17 pm UTC said:
“I think every rational person on the planet is also counting on him.”
since you don’t actually know what he is thinking i’ll assume you mean irrational in above.
“there you go again with those negative vibes, man….”
quote from a war movie tank commander.
I think every rational person on the planet is also counting on him.
@ Taffycat,
Would it be fair to state TV and news [in general] have been dumbed down to a level I find unrecognizable?
Both France and Germany invaded Russia on the same date – June 22. That is……so surprising.
“The real question is this: who invited them and why?”
(my opinion:)
The 5th column is deep-seated in all ministries and organs of the RF due to the priority of “universally-recognized norms of international law” over national law (Art. 15.4 of the Constitution of the RF), prohibition of State Ideology (Art. 13.2) and prohibition of censorchip (Art. 29.5). The legal situation resembles the one in Germany after WWI and then again after WWII to date.
Mass media (including state owned) is de jure as independent of national organs as is the Central Bank (Art. 75.2), hence dependent on the sovereign, who implemented these “rules of democracy” in the 90s (i.e. US State Dep. http://marker.to/yPwP4m)
Judicial interpretation of the formula “universally-recognized norms” was given in the Decision of the Supreme Court of October 10, 2003 №5. (Постановление Верховного Суда РФ от 10 октября 2003г. №5 http://www.rg.ru/2003/12/02/pravo-doc.html)
Of course de facto the game is changing, WWP seems to prepare some new rules…I’m just saying the phenomenon “5th column” is more than some “demofreaks”, it’s a system. Please revisit any of the former Q&A’s or any other open dialogue between WWP and Russian press for that matter – once you start paying attention you’ll see such “human rights warriors’ appearances” are the rule rather than exceptions…not to mention the numerous acts of public sabotage of WWP’s decrees on the part of various ministers (of finance, culture, …).
Thank you, Siggi
As long as the Articles 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, states the priority of the international laws over the domestic laws, and prohibition of State Ideology (Art. 13.2), and prohibition of censorship (Art. 29.5) are in place, Russia remains a country occupied by the US-EU-NATO.
BTW, in the US Constitution the domestic laws always take priority over the international laws.
Scott, “BTW, in the US Constitution the domestic laws always take priority over the international laws.”
Scott, I don’t think you are right on this. I mean officially you’re right, but not in application, I think.
If you search “treaties supercede US constitution”, here’s the 1st example I came to:
The Founding-Era evidence strongly suggests that the Treaty Power DOES enable the federal government to regulate many matters over which it might not otherwise have jurisdiction. If the President and two thirds of the Senate adopt a treaty regulating such matters, Congress may use its incidental authority under the Necessary and Proper Clause to enact laws carrying out that treaty. In this way, Congress may regulate subjects otherwise outside its sphere.
Another example, the TTIP, if it passes will supercede just about every constitutional protection or provision. It’s too lengthy to explain here. If interested, search TTIP on nsnbc or on Globalresearch.ca. TTIP is simply a backdoor directly into a one-world govt w the international oligarchs in charge. TPP is the same thing but for Pacific countries. Here’s a few links:
http://nsnbc.me/2013/11/27/monsanto-tpp-global-food-dominance/:
If ratified the TPP would impose punishing regulations that give multinational corporations unprecedented right to demand taxpayer compensation for policies that corporations deem a barrier to their profits.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=9985
This is the one to recommend to people; it’s a video & evidence of a desire for corporatocracy.
GUNS & BUTTER RADIO SHOW April 2, 2014
@Scott
If Russia de jure is occupied by the US, then obviously not militarily, so NATO isn’t key here. As is well-known, NATO is “just” at Russia’s doorstep. I think it’s important to understand that there is an in-between state of occupation, which is called differently by different sources (soft-, legal-, semi-, …-occupation). To play it safe I’d rather cite from the highest possible position, i.e. http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/47636 (look for the word “Finally”).
The EU itself is already occupied by the US (different countries on different levels, up to militarily), so this one drops out, too. For example, after WWI Germany accepted the “universally recognized rules of international law as integral and obligatory parts of the law of the German Reich” (Art. 4, http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Weimar_constitution), presumably as an alternative to military invasion and/or occupation. The German pseudo-constitution from 1949 became even more honest and placed the “general rules of international law” above all domestic laws (Art. 25, http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html#p0135), as it was done in Russia after the Cold War. Btw Russia and Germany are the only countries in the world with such frank wordings in their constitutions (according to these guys here http://rusrand.ru/en).
What remains is the US (maybe plus GB)…and if you heard of the “Cold War Victory Medal”, this one shouldn’t come as a surprise.
Now, the exact chain of command inside the metropolis is far from clear. Russian analysts (and I guess Western, too) seem to agree that the real sovereign is to be found in big finances, but the views differ on the capability of domestic (US-) forces to seize power or even to affect the course of politics your country takes (unfortunately from none to little).
Siggi, I think you are well-informed on this issue. Do you have the time to write up something to submit as a guest article? I know a lot of us want to understand this issue better.
If an article isn’t possible, perhaps you cd just give us a list of sites or a book.
I find the link that you supplied to contain quite frightening material. It all sounds so smooth and beneficial for the recipient country, but USAID w all its attendant NGOs is so toxic. Even their work on health matters must be suspect. Recently polio immunizations were found to cause “non-polio paralytic disease”. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-global-polio-eradication-initiative-new-technology-used-to-locate-children-for-polio-vaccinations/5325246
Various immunizations have been found to contain agents that cause permanent sterility.
Failing all else, perhaps you could just give us a few paragraphs about how the “5th column” system is administered, obstacles to changing it, etc.
Thank you so much.
@Penelope
The main directions I’d point you to would be Yevgeny Alexeyevich Fyodorov (eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qLMG0KD3rI), Nikolai Starikov and his book “Rouble Nationalization: The Way to Russia’s Freedom” (more balanced, q.v. aforesaid youtube-channel) and Valery Pyakin (http://fct-altai.ru/?p=692), of whom I couldn’t find anything anglophone, unfortunately – but it should be said that he’s affiliated with the so called “Conception of Social Security / Sufficiently Universal Theory of Ruling” – hopefully someone will translate some of his Q&A’s someday.
Since the whole topic is controversial to say the least, one shouldn’t wonder about labels these sources are getting – naturally accusations range from PR-stundmen to antisemites to cultists. I’m not going to defend anybody. Judge as you see it.
“Failing all else, perhaps you could just give us a few paragraphs about how the “5th column” system is administered, obstacles to changing it, etc.”:
I don’t know nearly enough to do this seriously, since I didn’t study neither law nor economics. What I know is that Russian officials aren’t (or weren’t*) breaking any law by complying with IMF’s “recommendations” to the detriment of the Russian economy. Just as no Russian journalist or outlet will be charged with anythink for spreading russophobia or discrediting/concealing vital information. According to Fyodorov there are several mechanisms at play: a law system based on a colonial constitution, economic incentives in terms of various grant systems, agents of influence… I guess simple malignance towards all Russian based on good old propaganda is in there, too.
“Changing it” is changing the world, thus the obstacles are global. Stalin couldn’t setup/restore his empire (i.e. revoke the colonial status of bolshevik Russia) without facing war, as was the case with every other superpower at any time in history as far as I know, so one of the obstacles seems to be the potential of a world war. To say something concrete, from my point of view one of the main obstacles is and has always been the public awareness.
If you want to break out of prison collectively and without mass casualties, you have to convince not only your fellow inmates, but as many guards as possible, too. Since in global politics most of the guards are inmates or potential inmates themselves (partially without knowing it), this isn’t as utopian as it sounds, you’d just have to convince them of your ability to a) protect them and to b) better their lifes. But: If the majority of the actual inmates is sure of your wrongness in the desire to be free (out of fear or stupidity), the whole project collapses.
*as I wrote initially, Putin seems to push through, slowly but firmly (eg. recently the CB received an additional duty in its internal statutes, namely the support of the Russian economy)
The craziest media baboon in Russia is Ksenia Sobchak, just the pitch of her voice is enough to get a migraine.
Here she is, interviewing Jen Paski (a warning – double migraine)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WyqkCGiJc0
The question is how were they treated. Here in the Netherlands TV often invites opponents of the establishment only to ridiculize them and show them as “cranks” who “normal people” shouldn’t vote for. They tend to get interrupted a lot and opposed by a group of other guests who confront them like they were at a military tribunal.
Disadvantage of the educated and intelligent people is,most of them have manners and they let the coversation to be lead by the mutual respect.
In every conversation you can see who is the mad dog, because he is loosing his power and who is the winner.
Don’t worry, most of the humanity now experience this type of arogancy especially in the media and this is the reason why big corporative media is loosing their devoted TV watchers.
More and more people are on the independent blogs like this one, thanks to Saker!!!!!!!!
I thought it was obvious, as it is to others, that they were allowed to question him for several reasons. Putin has made a powerful statement. First he has shown that political opponents are permitted the speak out in the most public forum available – a demonstration of freedom of speech to the West. Secondly, that these potential dissidents are extremely sour about the the current situation, potentially undermining any support they might receive. Thirdly, that he has the political strength to override or contradict their concerns.
“…we shall find that it is easier for the prince to make friends of those men who were contented under the former government, and are therefore his enemies, than of those who, being discontented with it, were favourable to him and encouraged him to seize it.” – The Prince, Machiavelli
They were invited exactly because they are so rapidly obsequious to the corrupt, imperialist US led West.
Featuring them dilutes their sniveling victim, Putin-bad, meme.
When the average Russian listens to them, they will appear as what they are, sell-out freaks.
Smart strategy, I believe.
Saker, I engage very strenuous labor–loved every podcast you have posted.
There is a huge void that could be filled in developing audio, podcast content.
RT does a horrible job in this respect–little four to six minute snippets.
I need hours of content per day to satisfy my curiosity and the joy I experience listening to intelligent analysis and conversation.
It’s a desert out there–with respect to timely audio content.
In my view, I think Saker internationally would explode if there could be organized podcast talk shows hosted by intelligent people with something to say.
Let me make it clear, I enjoy the written word, literature, cogent and potent essays–but reading is reserved for before I sleep, or on days off.
The U.S. Podcast environment is a wasteland, almost all of it horrid and spiritually stultifying.
Slave Revolt, We all treasure Saker, but if you are desperate for the spoken word, here’s just a few sources:
Guns & Butter Radio show, Morris 108, Red Ice Radio, X22, Lars Schall
There’s a ton of good podcasts out there– tho of course none of them are Saker.
Saker, stay calm.
They do not even need to be “suicidados”.
hehe.
I hope that these professional whiners and bitchers understand that if they lived in Kiev they would have been assassinated already.
Why should they not be invited? The fact that they accepted would suggest they are halfway to being fools. That they opened their mouths illustrates they crossed over into full idiocy. As the cliche goes, better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Also to quote Michael Corleone from “The Godfather II”:
“My father taught me many things here — he taught me in this room. He taught me — keep your friends close but your enemies closer.”
– a saying often misattributed to Niccolo Machiavelli “The Prince”) or Sun Tzu (“The Art of War”).
Isn’t it better that these politicians appear on the Q&A session than over in Washington like Ilya Ponomarev giving talks on regime change in Moscow?
@ Jen,
Q; Isn’t it better that these politicians appear on the Q&A session than over in Washington like Ilya Ponomarev giving talks on regime change in Moscow?
R; Hurray!
Nailed it.
Garry Kasparov, Vladimir Pozner, Anne Applebaum, and Stephen F. Cohen went at it in Toronto at the Munk debates: http://www.c-span.org/video/?325305-1/munk-debate-western-engagement-russia – http://www.c-span.org/video/?325305-1/munk-debate-western-engagement-russia
Kasparov was checkmated and Applebaum was straying from the topic interrupting, rude, glared , at Cohen who put her in her place and showed the audience that she was nothing but a liar a bullwhip artist unable to deal with Cohen’s facts. If you want to see paid liars of the empire spend a few minutes and look at the link.
Cohen talks about facts, but he misrepresented Putin’s position, by claiming that Putin is “on his knees begging to be part of the west”. That’s quality bs, right there.
Putin demonization in US is so strong even, even so called “pro-Russia” experts don’t feel safe being seen as Pro-Putin.
Yes he said that. Why? I think if he said that Putin’s using diplomacy to convince the west that his position is rational and needed a rational response rather than threats and lies would have been more appropriate. .Cohen is under lots of pressure in the West for his stand and throughout the debate he expressed his American patriotism like Kasparov expressed his Russian Patriotism. Cohen was believable because he provided facts while Kasparov was not since he substituted loudness finger pointing and wagging and emotive language for the facts that he did not have. Imagine if someone like Cohen said that Stalin had the right to send many of his army officers to prison. in late 1930’s Immediately he would be labeled a lunatic. But what if he also said that these officers were mostly Tsarist Whites that might have turned against USSR like Vlasov and Bandera did. Or what if he said that anti Soviet propaganda has been transferred to the present Russian regime, and used hundreds of examples of that , why did he need to say he did not care about Putin and that he was an American patriot. Its supposed to be democracy and he should be able to say whatever he wants and those who don’t like it prove him wrong and don’t judge his words by his patriotism. or negative comments about Putin. .
“Kasparov expressed his Russian Patriotism.” – Kasparov lied. He hates Russia with passion.
Cohen was pretty reasonable. I do find it odd that four of the ‘chosen ones’ are debating how to deal with Russia. Precious.
The demonization of Putin and Russia did not take place as it did with others that NATO attacked. Yugoslav leadership and Serbia were demonized and even the liberal left was taken in by the lies , This was one of the great propaganda triumphs of our era. It was done so quickly, with such uniformity and uncritical zeal in the mainstream Western media. In the case of Russia not so Here is just one example of many that I have read. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/20/the-west-snubs-russia-over-v-e-day/
Did anyone catch the answer Putin gave to a question on Ukraine.In the translation I saw he said something like “if’s up to Ukrainians to decide what to do about their “sociopath” government,lol.
Ouch!
British Dictionary definitions for sociopath Expand
sociopath
/ˈsəʊsɪəˌpæθ/
noun
1.
(psychiatry) another name for psychopath
noun, Psychiatry.
1.
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
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Compare psychopath.
Actually this simple explanation of Psychopath is far from accurate. Psychopaths have these traits:
1. they tend to be “inherited”, normally only about 2-4% of the population
2. they are very good liars, becuase
3. they fill no guilt or remorse (i.e. they lack the bio-feedback that normal people have when they lie, because normal people will feel some kind of conscience tugging at them when lying)
4. many of them also like to be praised, be looked up upon, enjoy celebrity or be admired or respected all the time
Because of this, many such people become successful, including becoming CEOs and, yes, successful politicians (see #2!).
just flush the mental toilet!
Great rant! Loved it -I am feeling the same way for different reasons and rants love company.
Dear The Saker,
Letting the opposition have a chance to air their views and therefore expose them was a good move. By doing so Putin showed that the opposition is free to speak in Russia – something the “West” and its press claims is not true. They also frankly showed themselves up for all Russians to see.
In the “democratic” EU/US you hardly see anything like this and it puts to bed this propoganda that Russia is some kind of totalitarian state.
Rgds,
Veritas
A police inspector in the Lviv region was tied to a cart drawn by horses and dragged around for hours until he died.
http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/printable_article/1450512
There are similar fools in the Indian media, as well. Most Indians are thoroughly sick of them. There’s a reason why Prime Minister Modi won by an overwhelming margin, even though the English-speaking media detests him.
British NATO forces charged with gang-raping a young woman, similar to case in Kiev:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/4-british-sailors-charged-with-sexually-assaulting-woman-in-n-s-1.3037898
Speaking of how America is trying to implant 5th Column media whores in other countries, the following article documents how the United States is creating something called the Outernet, which is a satellite based internet system that the Americans want to deploy to colonize hearts and minds around the world.
The Outernet is the “Soft Power” cyberspace dimension of America’s Full Spectrum Dominance ambitions.
It is America’s Infowar taken literally to a planetary level, and it is a threat that deserves much greater exposure.
Outernet: The Information War on a Whole New Level
http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/14/outernet-the-information-war-on-a-whole-new-level/
when putin himself breaks with his allies and support system then who else is to blame?
“I’m frankly surprised that it [the ban on S-300 deliveries to Iran] held this long, given that they were not prohibited by [UN Security Council] sanctions from selling these defensive weapons,” Obama said on Friday.
“This is actually a sale that was slated to happen in 2009, when I first met with then-Prime Minister [Vladimir] Putin. They actually stopped the sale, paused or suspended the sale, at our request,” Obama said.
So from the horse’s mouth –it is clear that Russia backstabbed her friend Iran and Syria to please her anglo enemies.
Of course Obama like many others in the wide world did not count on the passivity and coward ness of the Russian leadership in standing up for her allies.
For that reason Russia will never have any friend now nor an ally or any trust by anyone..
Compare that with how anglo evil empire stands behind her allies and stooges come what !
Even today after all this western aggression against Russia with Israeli collaboration ,mr. Putin is still coy about arming Syria and he has betrayed Syria too after taking its chemical weapon.
Quote –“The Russian president also refused to confirm that Russia decided not to supply similar systems to Syria at Israel’s request. Earlier this week, Putin said a deal “with a certain Middle Eastern country” for S-300s was canceled due to Israel’s concern the system would endanger all flights over its territory.
The country in question is widely presumed to be Syria, but Putin refused to confirm it directly.
“I said what I said. That is enough, I believe. Experts know what I am talking about,” he explained.” !!!
Quote “Halting S-300 supplies to Iran was our national decision,” Ulyanov said. “The arms embargo imposed by UN Security Council No. 1929 does not prohibit missile defense.
It is very easy to critiqued till we don’t know the details. Mr.Putin doesn’t need to get a Russian 9/11. He knows very well with whom is he in conflict.
He is NOT going to gepardise the Russian nation because of the rockets. He is looking for the balance and peace.
Please name only one politician around the world who is concerned about a well beeing of his voters!
Mr.Putin looks like he is the only one in the recent history who does this, even it is very difficult because he inherited absolutely looted economy, chaos,coruption on the highest level and so on. This is not the first tele-conference with the nation, he already did this before. Russians who has lost their homes because of the flood, after 6 months were moved into the new houses on the higher level to be protected from another possible flood.
Innocent Americans till today were not able to recover from the Kathrina disaster. Putin has much more on his plate than just taking care about lost homes.
It will take much more time probably the next generation to put together Russia on their feet back.
you’d rather there were chemical weapons being used in Syria then?????
Absurd and horrendous.
wrong, my friend. Iran did not informed Russia about hidden centrifuges in Fordow until US intell. announced. That was surprise for Russians, so they suspect Iranians have something to hide. Russians will not trade principles for any “allies”. Playing double game with Russia is not worthy. So they refused to deliver S-300. A good choice, because we see that Iran is negotiating now in good faith. Who knows how would they negotiate with russian wild card knowing that air raids will definitely end bad for enemy.
I can just repeat
– yes, there is a 5th column in the Russian media
These are the faces of ghouls and muppets.
I want to know who the gorgeous model in the red dress was. She was holding the microphone n RTs screenshot.
Penelope on April 20, 2015 · at 2:58 am UTC said:
“I want to know who the gorgeous model in the red dress was. She was holding the microphone n RTs screenshot.”
You have me interested now – but are you not a girl? [not that it matters ;-)]
All this talk, about Givi e.g., is lowering the baseline.
Some more, please.
Yeah, I’m female, but a woman’s natural narcissism is often broad enough to include other women. Like you might admire competency in another male. I just enjoy how unusually beautiful she is, wondered who she is.
This fifth column was helpful for Putin. And some of the fifth column obviously work for the Russian security services. The problem is the corporate fifth column that can and does promote debilitating ideas. Destroy the family or promote bad habits, that kind of thing.
Anyway, the real fifth column is the financial oligarchy in Russia. May we all live long enough for him to go after them.
Only one small anecdote: the house across the street is owned by a company run by Poles, and some don’t speak English. One who sort-of does I exchange greeting with now and then.
They had this huge device on the sidewalk and when I asked he said it was a semi-broken big screen TV. I said I had watched TV for 15 years — all propaganda, and he agreed: all propaganda, and mentioned the internet is better. They have a satellite system so they can watch US and Polish language.
I wonder how many people in Poland believe the government or media there, and how closely the official narrative and policy reflect what the Polish people think?
(Same regarding the Ukrainian people — and everywhere else in fascist-land).
A question for our Russian friends;
“Russia Consumer Confidence Collapses
Double digit inflation, sanctions and a weaker ruble have destroyed Russian consumer confidence, recent data shows.”
It’s a Forbes article [in case you want to know], but I won’t provide a link, so they don’t get the dreaded ‘extra bandwith disorder.’
How would you explain, to me, what’s really going inside Russia at the moment?
Very simple….the new Nazi aka Natoist are attacking Russia from all sides…
Not easy for Russia, you must admit.
Unfortunately until the soft power of the West is eliminated we will have to deal with this situation. It is very dismaying for those of us from so called 3rd world countries to see how the west chooses our heroes and elevates our nobodies into global prominence just to subvert us. This is a continuation of the old political and cultural imperialism. In Africa when the europeans took over they killed the leaders of both the cultural and political elites. The others they labeled “witch doctors” and ” tribal chiefs”. Entire African nations, larger than many European nations, were reduced to mere tribes. And so it has remained to this day. Once this was done, they then elevated nobodies. The people who were least capable, who otherwise would never have made it to the top of their society, were elevated to the very top.
This is the reason why, these Russian “leaders” who together can only muster 5% support are so prominent. They can get on CNN, Radio “Liberty” etc etc in a heart beat. They can visit the American ambassador or even the Whitehouse. They have the ear of Brussels. Therefore they are influential in Russia. The only way to defeat this is to defeat American soft power. That requires that the people of the world get their heads out of Hollywood’s arse and start living according to their own authentic histories and cultures.
You get it.
One piece of good news.It appears the two top winning parties in the Finnish elections today are anti-NATO parties.So that means 3 out of 4 of the top winners are anti-NATO (1st,2nd,4th places.Only the 3rd place party is pro-NATO).Russia should be able to rest assured on that border now for a while.
http://rt.com/news/251065-finland-election-centre-party/
Who ever is anti-Nato will be killed, elimineted, unempoyed or bullyed.
They were invited for the sole and rather simple purpose – to show their true colours to the widest audience possible once more. These people are the best anti-advertisement for any liberal and *democratic* ideas in Russia any have-baked PR agency can come up with. The more they are allowed to talk publicly, the stronger is the rejection of them by general public, people those so-called professional *dissidents* use to call *bidlo*, *genetic rubbish* and other equally affable names, hence the public support for them approaching big fat zero. They are as useful for healthy political life or debate as the proverbial chocolate tea-pot. Has-beens, who cannot fathom the profound failure of their *ideals* in Russia (due to their own ineptitude) and who go on peddling the usual liberal crapola ad nauseam. Pathetic, really…
NATO credibility sunk – British Broadcasting Corporation, BBC Radio, 36 Minutes:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05qgd0n
“As cruise missiles and precision bombs rained down on Iraq in 1990 some believed it marked the dawn of a new age in which the US would stand supreme and police the world. But this was a fleeting moment of overwhelming military superiority relying on forces built up over a decades-long Cold War arms race.
Almost everything that has happened since Operation Desert Storm, when the US and its allies kicked Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, has served to demonstrate the limitations of Western power and the rise of other forces. Defence spending has been falling in many NATO states, and assumptions made at the end of the Cold War about the nature of future threats now look questionable.
With Vladimir Putin challenging Europe, China’s inexorable economic rise and Islamic radicalism remaking the Middle East, the West seems everywhere on the defensive. And there’s disturbing evidence to suggest that Western forces – including even those of the United States – are nowhere near as strong as many might assume. In this programme Mark Urban asks an uncomfortable question: Is the West losing its military edge?
Producer: Mike Gallagher
Editor: Richard Knight.”
this morning on al jazeera Head to Head with cross examination of ex head NATO Rasnussen
https://www.facebook.com/AJHeadToHead
NATO guardian or bully
eg bombing in Libya was total NATO success, but shares no responsibility for opening up this Pandoras box, because politicians failed afterwards in nation building for Libya……NATO is worlds most successful peace movement ever known……..
..ye gods
Black is white, up is down, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
NATO doublethink.
Sickening isn’t it?
so reading the comments it seems that each of these journalists got to ask questions…yes, I don’t know why Putin doesn’t answer ‘normal peoples’ questions….too bad. So in other words the fifth column got a certain percentage of the question-time. hmmm
Perhaps in answering the fifth column Putin answered nagging doubts? of “normal” people?
But Putin did. “Normal people” from all over Russia could ask questions by mail, video, he answerd the questions, explained things, made notes and promised help of the governement.
People with small businesses, farmers, a lady of a health care institution, two very old people who would like a better house etc. Even a little boy who wanted to become a president got a very friendly answer.
Speaking of those type of questions.The husband got his wife a dog for her Birthday,lol.
The next five weeks are of particular concern to Moscow because of the many opportunities for the Natoists to employ provocations to trigger an escalation by the newly re-armed and re-trained national guard units.
Maximum risk is before and during the May 9 Great Victory Day Parade in Moscow, with China President Xi Jinping, Czech Republic President Tomislav Nikolic and two dozen other world leaders in attendance.
Recall that the Georgia civil war crisis started as Vladimir Putin reached Beijing for the 2008 Olympics and that the Ukraine civil war crisis started as Putin prepared to welcome the world for the 2014 Winter Olympics at Sochi.
Were these coincidences or a pattern?
Russia is acutely aware that, as it prepares to celebrate its victory over the Nazis on May 9, it is especially vulnerable to provocation and humiliation by the Natoists.
You are right I’ve been thinking of that too.I think the Russians are as well.That might be the “straw that breaks the camels back” if they do.An insult that big could be just unforgivable.And might just enrage the Russian people enough to support an immediate end to the junta by all out support for the Novorossians in the civil war.All that would take is encouraging,instead of just allowing,volunteers to join the NAF.Unlimited weapons supplies, and helping form a government in exile in Russia.Those moves would spell the end of the junta,and the liberation of not just Novorossia, but of all Ukraine.
2 very near dates before MAY 9 coming, to watch closely in this respect:
APR 30—70th anniversary of Hitler committing suicide Berlin.
(whether or not that was really him, not a doppelganger, etc)
MAY 8—V/Europe Day Allied Armed Forces (before V-Japan day months later)
MAY9—-70th again, this of Russia
Again, refer back to that hideous Leatherface Lagarde & her lecture on “7” before a group of fellow banksters a year ago.
Well, 70 is 7.
The ‘6’ in their favorite evil number was already spoken for, when 911 just happened to occur 60 years to the day of the sod turning ceremony for the construction of the pentagram.
The writer of the book , Sasha Markovic,
“Manifesto against the empire – a contribution to the history of the US (neo) imperialism” killed, assinated in Montenegro.
Sasha Markovich was well known for his anti-Nato stance.
Instead of calling them 5th column, why not just opposition figures? Or is everybody with opposing ideas called 5th column by you now?
If they receive instructions from the American embassy in Moscow, how would you call them?
Opposition is how they are called on your West. In Russia, just like in the rest of the sovereign world, liberals are called 5th column because their program, aim and goal is to subjugate and abolish sovereignty of a country they are allowed to operate in. They a They work for foreign interests and thus they are rightfully called 5th column. They should be tried for treason and executed. Penalty for high treason has always been death.
Well I actually saw it as a positive thing that these people got their say. It’s important for Russia not to slip into a dictatorship in time of pressure and tension, so it’s quite important that the President be put under questioning by opposition. I know the Russian system works differently to the common one further West, but the presence of an opposed opposition is important to stop hubris and mission creep. (Which is why we’re so fucked in the West ‘cos we have no real Opposition anymore). Allowing these people a platform is not equivalent to rolling over and playing dead to their will – and even though someone might argue that the current siege situation precludes dissent, I would argue that this is a very slippery slope, also given that these people currently lack the power to stop the will of the majority and so cannot really do much damage even at this crucial juncture.
I enjoy the entire Q&A and i have your opinion about this people. However Russia is far more democratic than the western partners, it was right to invite them and simply show the lack of arguments. I had to laugh see Khakamada (high on drugs…alcohol or heroine?) and Venediktov insists with the martyrization of Navalny (rename the street, flowers issue), Kudrin was simply overwhelmed (the issue of raising pension age,…) and the same took to Remchukov (His stupid statement about xenophobic patriotism in multiethnic Russia). I was more interested in the Cosmodrome issue, the home’s rebuilding in Khakasia Region after fire, sanity… the path is clear: purge the corrupt and more state control over strategic assets. Sadly the farmer’s question and issues was about milk production, good idea with the kiosks but no one centered the real problem: the only possible future for the entire Earth is regenerative agroforestry and water management, small cooperative farming and local production. Russia can lead the entire World out of the criminal agroindustrial system, politician and academics are not all sold out to the multinational companies like in the West.
And the show goes on.One side the fifth column and the other side Vladimir Zhirinovskiy.Russian oligharhs sleep well at nigth.
Re: “Ekho Matsy”
Isn’t “matso” the name of the typical Russian bread? If so they are expressing their patriotic Russian identity…
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/04/korwin-mikke-maidan-snipers-were.html
Polish EU Parliament Deputy and presidential candidate Janusz Korwin-Mikke.tells the whole truth about the US and Polish role in Maidan.
WWII revisionism continues – FBI Director Comey published a piece recently in the WSJ which stated:
“In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland, and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil.”
Poland objects to this, and summons the US Ambassador to Poland, who now says:
“”Suggestions that Poland, or any other country apart from the Nazi Germany was responsible for the Holocaust are wrong, harmful and offensive,”
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/poland-summon-u-ambassador-over-fbi-heads-holocaust-112916075.html
I find that as “Karma” for Polish leaders trying to rewrite the history of WW2.Now they see how bad it feels to be lied about.
Perhaps they were invited in order for the Russian people to see who these 5th columnists really are – in America we have a saying, “give your enemy just enough rope to hang himself.” An opponent who is really pathetic, nasty and inept can be a great boon if allowed to show their true colors for all to see. Just guessing, I would suggest that these Atlanticist-Liberals pose so little threat to Putin’s state that the state will get more mileage out of them by letting them embarrass themselves on TV than if he would try to keep them out of sight, which would legitimize them to a certain degree.
Putin, itself spoke once of the thin line between genuine opposition and traitors. He said that the difference can be seen when, things begin to be hot then the real opposition in, before everything else a patriot. Hence, the traitor is… not a patriot.
Who of these personalities are traitors ? I don’t know (even if I have some idea !). Time will tell, but I’m sure that Russians are fed up of all the pseudo-liberal clique and will chose to continue to build a real democracy (and not a plutocracy).
Dear Saker,
Your rants makes me feel that you are thinking more like as “gringo” than as russian or any other asian ancient culture.
If there is an idea that you want to destroy (with or without good reasons), the worst you can do is to hide it.
Anonymous, I know it’s confusing but the wikipedia definition of Liberalism that you cite
“Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. ”
is not what’s meant by Liberalism in Russia. In Russia to be a Liberal is to be for the neoLiberal econ system (pro-US globalism).
Even in the West people now tend to use the term “Progressive” to refer to any sort of social justice or equality.
Yes – understood. Thanks.
Don’t play anyone for stupid, Californian woman. Liberals stand for liberty and democracy just like your country bombs other countries in order to bring them freedom, democracy and liberty, or like Gerorge Soros is “philanthropist” according to that same Anglo-American source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros).
Don’t insult anyone’s intelligence, Californian woman. And no, they are not called progressives on that West you are living in, but libtards. Progressives is a term Western corporate media bestowed upon liberals, libtards on the other hand is how people are calling your liberal kind. Liberal values incorporate sex, violence, corruption, godlessness and absolute lack of any morals whatsoever. That is what liberalism is. A disease. A Western disease.
News from Poland
Janusz Korwin-Mikke :
Poland does not have conflicting interests with Russia.
On the Polish-Russian border there are no problems.
Fueling war sentiment is not on hand to us, but the United States.
It is difficult to agree with people like Mr. Vladimir Zhirinovsky, because it’s crazy, but to call us minions Washington is justified.
Such feelings are natural in the face of Russia’s aggressive policy. It’s hard to pass by the Iskanders at our border.
– Wait! Iskandery appeared recently – after the Polish hundred times brutally attacked verbally Russia – and the ground Polish armored cavalry American parades.
I am a poker player and poker, you have to think like the enemy.
Optics Russia is as follows: in the last twenty years, NATO has swallowed the GDR, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria, and wants to get their hands on Ukraine.
What’s more, detached from Serbia, Kosovo, was attacked on late. Muammar Gaddafi, and now attacking the sole defender of Christianity in the Middle East, His Excellency Bashar al-Assad – just because they are allies of Russia.
Meme circulating on the internet: “The Russians want war.
See how close NATO bases put your country”. So I ask, who is the aggressor here?
http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1027139,title,Korwin-Mikke-snajperzy-z-Majdanu-byli-szkoleni-w-Polsce,wid,17449668,wiadomosc.html?
Poland was in the business of Russophobic conspiracy theories for a long time. It is known nowadays that the (in)famous Will of Peter the Great, in which the plan of the conquest of the whole world was laid out, was the fabrication of an anti-Russian Polish patriot:
“Michał Sokolnicki (1760, Wierzeja – 1816, Warsaw) was a Polish nobleman (of Nowina coat of arms), general, military engineer, politician, and writer.
Sokolnicki studied in Warsaw’s Corps of Cadets and fought in the Polish-Russian War of 1792 as well as the Kościuszko Uprising of 1794. In 1797 he presented the French Directory with a document entitled “Aperçu sur la Russie”. This became known as the so-called “Testament of Peter the Great”, which Napoleon Bonaparte used for anti-Russian propaganda purposes in 1812, and has been widely publicised since, although scholars have since established that the document is a forgery.
From 1797 on, Sokolnicki was a member of the Danube Legion and later of the Polish Legions in France under Napoleon. After 1808, he was a general in the army of the Duchy of Warsaw and took part in the Polish-Austrian War, where he was instrumental in defeating the Austrians in two major battles. Sokolnicki then took part in Napoleon’s invasion of Russia. After Napoleon’s defeat and the Duchy’s occupation by Russia, he removed himself from public life and died in an accident in 1816.” (Wikipedia)
The bogus Testament was the basis of all bouts of Russophobia which swept periodically Western Europe and is invoked even today as the proof of malignant Russian intentions, although nobody doubts anymore that it was a gross fabrication. It is one of the most enduring cases of “perception management” in history.
All Jews are not equal
LONDON: Britain’s energy minister has decided to force Russian billionaire Mikhail Fridman to sell North Sea gas fields he recently acquired as part of a $5.4 billion takeover deal of DEA, the former oil and gas unit of Germany’s RWE.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/46991482.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
Please read BBC between lies / lines
In a car park outside a block of flats in Moscow, a dozen Russian teenagers in camouflage are practising army drills.
A young lieutenant barks out orders. They form a wobbly line and march up and down on the spot.
Inside another group of kids are learning how to handle weapons – firing blanks down an empty hall way to improve their aim.
This after-school club is ostensibly part of a drugs prevention programme: a programme of evening activities with a patriotic military slant, aimed at keeping local kids away from drinking and shooting up.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32283456
It’s obvious, init ? They’re terrible. They are the perfect opposition for Putin. They look very opposing, but convincing no one.
re: photo of poroshenko eating opulent food with us advisorsin Kiev:
Those American troops certainly look hand picked to appease Galician racial sensibilities and preferences.
Not reflective of the real situation in the USA or West at all.
I agree, there is way too much 5th element influence in Russian media, but it is getting less as time moves on. At least in the state sponsored media. I didn’t see Putin’s Q&A press conference, but I wonder if the “Lord Haw Haws” were invited to show that Russia does allow dissidents a voice? I’m not claiming this, just putting it out there as a possibility.
This was a great show and Putin directed it like a maestro. Most of the performance was staged but it was still magnificent and the addition of the whining neoliberals and the later jibes directed at Kudrin only showed Putin’s control and genius for requiring their presence.
I only hope the economic realities of Capitalism, especially corruption, that were exposed by the Polish apple story, can be controlled and the sanctions can actually be used to increase local production.
But Saker this is part of what freedom of speech and press is about, everyone having the opportunity to express their ideas. Some dissidents can become boring, but boring is much better than gag laws. Be well.
This could actually be clever politics by Mr. Putin. These journalists sound like stand-ins for the West, so the exchanges would convey the narrative of Putin defending Russia from these hostile, threatening views. Most Russians may have reacted as you did.
“eternal sadness of the professional dissident”
Saker, you are absolutely correct! :D