Dear friends,
I have heard the news that Igor Strelkov has been found dead, apparently hanged. A lot of you have emailed me. While I cannot prove a negative, so far NOT A SINGLE RUSSIAN OR NOVORUSSIAN SOURCE HAS CONFIRMED THIS including his friend el-Miurid. So I suggest that we take a deep breath, say a prayer, and wait before coming to conclusions
Also, I am working on my analysis and I should have it posted by this evening (US East Coast time).
The Saker
UPDATE: I just came back home and, apparently, some of you have understood my warning not to come to conclusions as an endorsement of the theory that Strelkov was dead. Well, folks, I tried to be clear, but if somebody can read “not a single source has confirmed this” and “wait before coming to conclusions” as anything but an appeal NOT to believe this rumor, then I am at loss for words…
Oh well, so is life, I guess. I am going back to writing my Strelkov analysis.
Gimme an hour of so and I will post it
The Saker
Of course Strelkov is on a hit list, as he is disturbing a lot of very important people.
This news of his hanging might just be a warning to him, that this is what awaits him if he carries on talking this way, as in this press conference.
After all, they wished he would die a martyr in Slavyansk, and leave them alone do their dirty works to enslave Novorossya, and soon Russia.
Saker, sorry totally off-topic, but what do you make of the dead Russian soldiers showing up in Russia and the Soldiers’ Mothers committee complaints and this being “hushed up”? In my guess it’s BS in our MSM but I always want to give the benefit of the doubt and analyze the facts fully.
Lets wait folks.
While we all wait, let me recommend a video UC suggested I watch. It’s called Four Horsemen and delineates rather well the situation in which we now find ourselves and makes some interesting suggestions as to what we can do about it. No one ideological POV either — something in it for everyone, I would think, with of course various quibbles from both sides of the divide.
It’s really worth watching though, and thinking about. (I actually took a whole bundle of notes and ended up throwing most of them out.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU
This is silly misinformation. If he was dead. It would be news everywhere.
Oh my God! Just listening to his interview yesterday, I thought that fifth column will never forgive him such an exposure.
May the death of that superb human being mean also death to all psychopaths involved in conspiracy.
He will never be forgotten as a hero, not only of Novorussia and Russia, but all decent human beings in the world!
Filthy nazis will say anything to try it on.I am sure Strelkov is fine and well-looked after,and my fingers are also crossed just in case.It shows what effect he is having on the opposition.
XbNB
new robot trap as well.
Oh for gosh sakes, JC, I’m sorry! I don’t know how in the world I typed a “U” instead of a “J”. ;~(
You certainly deserve credit for suggesting that video; it’s really worth watching and giving a lot of thought. I know we still are. ;~)
He is alive and will give a new press conference soon(tweet) 18.46 gmt+ 2
Well I don’t know if this helps but the first report about this that I heard was in CrimeList.ru. This is the article http://crimelist.ru/archives/49674-kriminalnaya-hronika-rossii. The date of the article is 10th of September (10 Сен 2014) and Strelkov made his press conference on the 11th of September (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQeJHqNZFs) so I would say ( and I hope) that this is a HOAX.
AM,
Perhaps corporate personhood is as subject to, erm, NSA spying/strong-arming as Angela Merkel and the rest of us? tee hee — at least there’d be some justice in that! In any case, apparently the-man-who-is-Exxon-Mobile is re-thinking things a bit…
http://en.ria.ru/business/20140912/192891043/ExxonMobil-Exploring-Influence-of-US-Anti-Russian-Sanctions-on.html
It sounds like an Ukie wet-dream reported as news. However, soldiers do die in war. Regardless, the enemy may kill the messenger, but never his message, that is eternal in the house of being.
This rumor has been going around since yesterday morning, mostly promulgated by Ukie twitter trolls, and has been refuted – at least on Twitter – even by those who aren’t fond of Strelkov.
Not saying it isn’t true – who knows? – but it’s exactly the kind of poisonous hate-filled lying tripe that the Ukies and Russian “fifth column” are so good at spreading around.
I suspect Kurginyan, frankly. But there are enough sideshow freaks involved in this now, that it could be anyone.
If this is true…this is truly heavy stuff, and of course the stakes are super high, and there is DANGER lurking around EVERY corner , even for sites like this one. It obviously is a TITANIC battle, an epic one between the forces of good and evil, and we should all become warriors, armed with shield and sword.
@Nabil. Who is they?
If they really killed him, and Putin still doesn’t wake up, it’s good bye Russia and back to the “wild 90’s” like under Yeltsin…
and Putin might be next…
the capitalist 5th column of oligarchs who are closer to the US than Russia, greed and ego identification transcend all worthwhile ideologies, humans are truly stupid.
Found this link on Twitter (don’t know how reliable this site is):
http://crimelist.ru/archives/49674-kriminalnaya-hronika-rossii
Partial Google Translate:
Igor Girkin found hanged in the center of Rostov
Igor Girkin, aka Igor Shooters (or Archer) was found hanged in the center of Rostov. According to a source in the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Rostov region, in a building on the street 50 years of Rostselmash, was found dead of an unknown, later identified as Igor Gromov Girkin. According to the source site the list of crimes in the RF IC in the Rostov region, the cause of death of Igor Girkina became mechanical asphyxia.
“At the time considered several versions of what happened, but the investigation is inclined to suicide. All details will be announced on the media not earlier than 12 September of the current year “, – said the source.
Recall that only two days ago, the former “Minister of Defense DNI” Igor Girkin said that intends to engage in a struggle with the “color revolution” in Russia. This was followed by a prolonged silence, as in the network and in the media who cover Girkina statements in the last few months.
Mr. Weenie from the War College himself, John Schindler, has just now said that this is “apparantly” disinfo, not true.
So there you go ;-)
This would not be an uncommon occurance if he were to surface ‘somewhere else’ in a different role.
Ukie site mentioning Strelkov’s death:
http://vostok.dozor.com.ua/news/lugansk/1166359.html
Google Translate:
Bolotov Gunmen dead
Ex-commander “militia Donbass” Igor Girkin (arrow) is found dead in Russia and the former head of “LC” Valery Bolotov shot at a checkpoint Dolzhansky.
In the center of Rostov-on-Don in one of the houses was found dead of an unknown man, who was identified as a former defense minister and commander of the NPT, “militia”, Igor Girkina. He was found hanged, the investigation tends to the version of suicide. “At the time considered several versions of what happened, but the investigation is inclined to suicide. All details will be announced on the media not earlier than 12 September of the current year “, – said a source in the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Rostov region.
Blogger Sergei Ivanov on his page on the social network claims that Valeria Bolotov killed while trying to escape to Russia with a large sum of money in foreign currency. “Bolotov seem really overwhelmed. Overwhelmed by his own gangsters while trying to flee to Russia and take out with a patriotic baksheesh amounting to several million dollars “, – says Sergey citing personal source in” LC “.
Recall, on August 14, Valery Bolotoff resigned after him left his post and Igor Girkin.
Igor Strelkov is Orthodox Christian, so he would never committed suicide, because he knows the consequences of a such act. If he is really dead then only one name come up on my mind: Surkov.
So who dun it?
1. CIA?
2. Russian oligarchs?
3. Ukrainian oligarchs?
4. Putin?
Hello,
for the first time, I hope you are wrong in your reporting.
I don’t know if this is still to the point, but there is a post on Strelkov’s conference in French in Media-Presse-Info (which i don’t know) (http://medias-presse.info/igor-strelkov-a-donne-une-conference-de-presse-a-moscou/15172), translation of Nezavissimaia Gazeta (http://www.ng.ru/politics/2014-09-12/2_strelkov.html)
Salam
I saw this rumor posted in the comments of the Strelkov video entry. The poster said it was in Wikipedia. I checked and it was not there so I blew it off but also considered it a threat. Pray this is not true.
It looks like the foreign-owned “Moscow Times” gave a bit of coverage to his recent press conference: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/ukraine-rebel-leader-vows-to-stay-in-moscow-to-protect-putin-against-fifth-column/506872.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
Russian media reported on September 11, 2014 that Girkin was found hung in Rostov-On-Don, Russia. [11]
http://crimelist.ru/archives/49674-kriminalnaya-hronika-rossii
If accurate the correct term for this is Wellstoned
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wellstoned
To die in a plane crash after being a strong vocal critic of an unpopular political position. To have alot of enemies and to be whacked mysteriously.
Too bad about Paul…how he got wellstoned and all.
I remember the day I heard that Paul Wellstone had died in a plane crash and I knew he had been killed. The sinking feeling, the sorrow I felt then I feel now. I can only hope that this is false information.
Would be interesting to find the source of this rumor.
Lets wait folks.
Strelkov does not strike me as the kind of person that would take unnecessary risks with his personal safety. Therefor it would be very odd for him to present his and Russia’s enemies and ”Fifth Columnists” with an opportunity to harm him, thereby compromising the mission that he just outline at his recent press conference: which is to thwart the machinations of those wishing to undermine and bring harm to Russia.
Strelkov, totally unimportant after he lost his job.
If there will be an official confirmation of this news it should appear on this site of the Rostov Investigative Committee:
Russian: http://www.rostov.sledcom.ru/
Or on the main site of the Investigative Committee of Russia
Russian: http://www.sledcom.ru/
English: http://en.sledcom.ru/
Saker, when you say you have heard this news, are you talking about the link that someone posted in the comments of the last Strelkov video you posted? I did not go to that link but just checked Wikipedia, where the commenter claimed it was but it was not there.
IMHO,something like this should only be posted as “There’s a nasty and unfounded (no proof or confirmation) rumor that has been posted at http://www.xxx. I can only assume it is a threat”, or something along those lines. Strelkov (or any human being) deserves that much respect. I recall a previous rumor like this and I took that, also, as a threat from his enemies. IOW, I wouldn’t repeat the rumor I would address the threat (unless there is actual proof of the unspeakable).
R_of_R
If true it would indicate that the ‘Fifth Columnists’ that he spoke about have gained the upper hand in the Kremlin and are preparing to ‘STAB RUSSIA IN THE BACK’!
And Putin’s credibility with the Russian public would take a direct hit, because Strelkov ‘death’ would prove one of two things: either Putin is complicit or he is compromised to the point where he is unable to protect his friends. Either of these cases would be a very bad omen for Russia and Russians.
Why print such an absurd story? Come on Saker, I used to think you understood psy ops.
I suppose quite a few russian politicians appreciate much more the company and life (and money) of their “western partners”. Killing Strelkov would be like the best gift the US War party could receive
So is everyone still thinking the ceasefire was a good move? Putin got taken for a sucker now that sanctions happened regardless. Novorossiya was betrayed bc Putin most certainly isn’t naive. 100% sanctions are the goal.
Putin has said he will honor gas contacts, so how many steps back does he need to take. Even Porky is gloating when a two weeks ago he was panicking
Lame
Gleb Bazov is posting that the report is false.And just disinformation.
I just posted this under the “News Conference” post by accident. Should be here, and I think relevant enough to double post it. Apologies.
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I reported the rumor’s publication at wikileaks (I found their putting it up so disgusting–Generally, I wouldn’t bother; I know wikileaks.)
Thus:
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Poorly sourced rumor about Igor Girkin “found hanged in Rostov-on-Don, Russia” should be removed.
Were this true, there would be good sources. This entry is neither verifiable nor neutral.
Just look at claimed source. Makes wikipedia look foolish, being used for implied death threats.
Thank you.
(I have never commented or posted at wikipedia in any way before now.)
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Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Igor_Girkin_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Cprotect.7Cdelete.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.7Cviews.29
Just [20-30] minutes ago.
We’ll see what they do or don’t do.
(Restraining myself from using vulgar invectives. Not easy.)
From Moonofalabama
Russia best reason to hold the insurgents in east Ukraine back from further fighting has vanished. The economic war is escalating no matter what Russia does or does not do. As the media have more time to look into the real issues in Ukraine the state of the sorry affair will become more clear and “western” public support for Ukraine will decline. This is a threat to “western” warmongering and to again escalate to fighting is the best method to suppress such news.
Hawks on both sides now have reason to restart the fighting. Expect the ceasefire to completely fail very soon.
Pathetic.
Zacharchenko Interview
http://youtu.be/4VJLESKvBU4
Sounds like more BS. Strelkov has been reported dead how many times.
This story, the first crack in the regime’s wall of lies surrounding Ukie combat deaths, seems much more important than more anti-Strelkov disinfo from the oligarchs. Can somebody please confirm or post a link here to the Ukrainian media source quoting Lyashko as saying (a day or two after his alleged shootout or gun pulling altercation with the Nazi Guard in Kiev) that the Ukie government is covering up 8,000+ Ukie combat deaths? The Kyev Post just published an article less than two days ago quoting the ‘official’ Ukie government number of 885 KIA and contradicting it with their own, brave truth telling of 985 KIA when the real number could be over 9,000. It’s pathetic and this needs to finally get exposed via MSM (maybe Shawn Walker or Alec Luhn?) willing to deviate from the party line…
https://twitter.com/Truth_Seeker_11/status/510414811654811648
Plus, Strelkov committing ‘suicide’ by hanging makes no sense. A devout Orthodox Christian man like Strelkov would never hang himself and if his body were found hanged undoubtedly there would be bruises or slash marks all over his arms indicating a struggle prior to the noose being fitted, which I don’t believe even the most powerful criminal oligarchs or the CIA could pull off because Strelkov is probably hanging out or staying with spetsnaz or types who would legally carry or keep firearms in their Moscow apartments. Plus, the fact that the ‘ex’ NSA officer John R. Schindler who resigned from the US Naval War College in disgrace and was gleefully tweeting this news out this a.m. suggests to me that this is a psyop. Schindler consciously thinks of himself as a disinfo operative which is why his public Yahoo! email account (which he may have since closed) was provokatsiya@yahoo.com. The man clearly thinks any lie no matter how preposterous or vile is justified to defeat or confuse the hated Moskal enemy.
From Gleb Bazov:
Gleb Bazov @gbazov 1h
I WILL REPEAT. All rumours of #Strelkov’s death are false. Reporting them is irresponsible & nefarious. “Grist to the mill of the enemy”
I am worried about Strelkov, but a reliable source tells me he is alive. God help him.
We talk about the fifth column in Russia proper, but I see another problem and that is infighting in the Russian diasphora.
Everybody is on the side of Russia and New Russia, but some, who live abroad, don’t talk with each other anymore. They have the same goals, but disagree on the means and the reasons for what is happening. Some support Vladimir Putin, others accuse him of betrayal. Some welcome the ceasefire for the sake of the civilians, others hate it and want to conquer Kiev pronto, now, at once or immediately, take your pick.
My Russian is like simple pidgin and I am not Russian, though I seem at least to know more about your country and your people than the Brussellites. White, red, putinista, whatever, can you please explain to us dumb non-Russians why you can’t keep the peace in this difficult and dangerous time? The fate of your country is decided for the third or fourth time in a hundred years! You need to stick together. Some of you work on the important anglosaxon front and all your contributions are immensely appreciated by English-speakers, and, I believe, by German and French speakers, too. Don’t forget the Saker mirrors. Don’t underestimate your contributions. Thousands in the West have been awakened thanks to your work. Sort out your differences when the war is won, not now.
Aaaaand for your quote of the day, Bernard-Henri Levy comparing Porky Pig to Tito:
“A reluctant war leader – a sentinel for Europe, which he has come to believe in almost as much as he believes in Ukraine itself – standing his ground against Putin when so many of his contemporaries prefer to lie low and seek accommodations, Petro Poroshenko is taking his place in that gallery of great figures who have always fascinated me, figures whose common characteristic is, at a given point in their life, to be seized by destiny, to hear within themselves the previously unheard voice, and to find the path to greatness.”
http://en.ria.ru/analysis/20140912/192879847/First-100-Days-of-Poroshenko-Presidency-Ukraines-Westward-Shift.html
The rest of the analysis of Poroshenko’s first 100 days in office is not quite as laughable, but close…
Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Rostov Region
http://www.rostov.sledcom.ru/
3 entries for 12 Sept already and earlier dates
No hanging nor suicide.
Their psyops are laughably pathetic.
Their murders are unforgivable.
Have you [you as in ‘did you forget] forgotten about the video posted on youtube about the downing of MH17 one day prior to the actual crime?
Strelkov is a marked man. Should he instead have used ‘our’ free speech zones and be safe?
Igor Ivanovich, Andrey Afanasyev, “Tsargrad” channel: What is your message to Russian people of Ukraine of Novorossia, of Russia? What have we do now, to save the country? Each person particularly?
– Strelkov: […] For now I can only say that one has to strictly refrain from any opposition activities, of any *destructive* opposition activities and realize that the war is waged against us, and in conditions of war, any revolt in the rears is only helping the enemy.
I agree with “R_of_R” @ 19.29hrs:
IMHO,something like this should only be posted as “There’s a nasty and unfounded (no proof or confirmation) rumor that has been posted at http://www.xxx. I can only assume it is a threat”, or something along those lines. Strelkov (or any human being) deserves that much respect. I recall a previous rumor like this and I took that, also, as a threat from his enemies. IOW, I wouldn’t repeat the rumor I would address the threat (unless there is actual proof of the unspeakable).
actully Bic I thought the entire wikipedia article about Strelkin sounded like a hit piece and had all sorts of unconfirmed stuff in it long before this death rumor came out.
I just went and edited out that crap rumor from the wikipedia page.
See how long that lasts :)
Never edited wikipedia before :)
(Made typo in earlier comment. Said wikileaks instead of wikipedia. Sorry.)
Nora @ 21:27,
Perhaps we should save that quote and send it to Bernard-Henri Levy every 100 days
At some point Poroshenko might “be seized by (more than) destiny”.
Thanks. Glad you like it please pass the info around. :-)
Short summary, it shows a system we created and not conspiracy theory. People work for Financial system rather than Financial work for people. The Four Horsemen plot revolves around social decay, corporate crimes and takes place in contemporary times. Film in the USA in English. It lacks details but anyone (thinker) will understand. It predicts the demise of Amerikka from historical past. Notable thinkers: Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Max Keiser, Prof. Noam Chomsky, Dr. Michael Hudson and more…. The Four Horsemen basically covers:
1. A Rapacious Financial System
2. Escalation Organize Violence
3. Object Poverty for Billions and
4. The Exhaustion of Earth Resources
Kindest Regards
JC
Maybe there is such a thing as the domino theory after all. ;~)
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140912/192894580/Wales-May-Follow-Scotland-in-Its-Search-for-Independence.html
There’s a lovely picture there from West Belfast too… tee hee ;~)
Nora
What could anybody expect from a “personnage” like BHLevy in the first place . Filthintelligentsia at its “best” and as always on a ludicrus pay scheme . We are full of the kind here in Greece , I can assure you they are equally amusing as him . Philosopher my ass…..
Saker
I ve been following the “event” of Strelkov’s death for many hours since your first posting waiting for updates … Tired to wait and thinking that this is a buff I threw an eye to your beloved Colonel Cassad …. Oops there is more of Strelkov interview …. waiting for Kazzura to translate and subtitle.
As I was trying to explain to my 22 years old daughter that the AZs and neo-cons foreign policy and geostrategic vision is narrowsighted I stumbled upon the idea that , lacking any civilization depth , they are probably NOT idiot but mostly in panic ..
The good old Greek supporter of the other day
Europe Folds To Russian Demands, Delays Ukraine Free Trade Deal By Over A Year
Tyler Durden’s picture
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/12/2014 17:17 -0400
European Union
Reality
The Matrix
Ukraine
While the world was poring through the details of the latest round of preannounced western sanctions against Russia – a round which Russia commented would have virtually no actual impact – and just as excitedly awaiting the Kremlin’s retaliation which Putin warned is coming shortly, far from the glare of the center stage Europe quietly folded to a bigger Russian demand namely to delay the implementation of a Ukraine free trade deal by more than one year until the end of 2015 and likely beyond.
As AFP reported, EU Trade Commissioner Karel de Gucht said, after talks with Russian and Ukrainian ministers, that the free trade agreement which Ukraine and its imploding economy had hoped would be implemented in the immediate future, will instead be delayed. Perhaps the date of the provisional launch has something to do with it: EU sources said the trade deal was to have taken effect on November 14, i.e. in the middle of Europe’s cold, snowy, GDP-sapping winter. The European Council of 28 members states must now sign off on the delay.
Strelkov is military, not military force or committing suicide with poison.
It is a weapon.
Independent of religion.
His other interview done on the (11th of Sept or at least published on that day), with English subs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spsyRowWmbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k3mRB6BN30
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/
Strelkov as an Event
Alexander Dugin, Sep 11 2014
The Conference of Strelkov was a real Event. For the first time in many years, we have a real political leader of the patriot wing. Unconditional. His entire program and all of its evaluation of the pure truth. To argue with. Strelkov personally took over the function of solar Putin, and in support of Putin, support meaningful, informative, persuasive. And most importantly, accurately defined the main enemy: the enemy within. Although Strelkov speaks of the “fifth column”, he clearly has in mind also the sixth. In fact, we are dealing with a full political strategy before our eyes: the birth of the Patriotic Front. The banner of Novorossia, the battle for her salvation as a National Affair of Russia. The enemy: Usaia, Ukrainian Nazism and, most importantly, the party of traitors, of surrender, the oligarchical party in Russia itself. (We shall be) neither right nor left, but Russians! And all that comes at a critical moment for us. Clear the vector of the rebellion, the liberal elites against Russia and Putin. We will cope with them. Novorossia will be saved. This compressed, compact press conference is best I’ve seen in a long time. This program is a strategy call. This hope come true is what we lacked. This is the birth of a Leader.
~
Exclusive interview with Igor Strelkov: “This is a new war”
I do not think it was responsible to post a rumour such as this on the internet. We all know the type of people that abound it. What’s odd is Wikipedia nefarious encyclopaedia got updated very fast about the news.
The rumour that Strelkov is dead came out around the time of his press-conference yesterday, if not earlier, so it’s obviously false.
Why are you even publishing it? It’s ridiculous!
Hi Saker, can you edit the heading and lead paragraph please? It needs to be refuted right off the bat.
Unsourced rumours only seek to discourage people; typical psyop.
Ukies will have to wait at least till 2016,for their ‘free trade agreement’ with the EU…
lol
Europe Folds To Russian Demands, Delays Ukraine Free Trade Deal By Over A Year.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/europe-folds-russian-demands-delays-ukraine-free-trade-deal-over-year
No more EU agreement,no NATO,no more gaz from gazprom,no more coal from the Donbass.Crimee lost,Donbass soon.Fantastic no?
The ukies are betrayed by their new ‘friends’ and the coming winter will be very colddddddddd
Maybe soon a new Maidan against EU/US/NATO/PORO/YATS and co ?
I reported it to Saker after seeing it on wikipedia, that page has now been revised with his death entry removed.
City banksters in full panic mode..
Investors pull £17bn from UK as banks ratchet up Scottish independence pressure
Net flows out of Britain hit $27.3bn (£16.8bn) in August, the highest seen since the financial crisis
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11093587/Investors-pull-17bn-from-UK-as-banks-ratchet-up-Scottish-independence-pressure.html
Delighted to read this kind of news…
America: your days as a global superpower are numbered
We’ve seen it before: the Roman empire fell, then the British. America’s economic dominance could be about to end – and China is taking its place.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11090928/America-your-days-as-a-global-superpower-are-numbered.html
Humm too good to read
Please forgive me, this is absolutely OT, but I have nowhere else to post it. I want to warn everybody after what Robin Williams did to himself.
Robin Williams, a rich man, who could eat every day, all of us can’t, seems to have committed suicide. He was found hanging, suspended by a belt or rope. Suffocating after slow torture. Painful. Death may have taken many minutes. He was rich, I am much poorer than he could think of in his worst nightmares, but I am still alive.
Please know. If you don’t know how to hang yourself, and you certainly don’t, you will suffer tremendously. Death may come after as long as ten minutes. The knot must be on the right side. If you want to die instantly with a broken neck, you need to fall. The body must fall exactly right, so that the neck is broken. Otherwise, you suffocate and die slowly and painfully. You need the expert knowledge of a British executioner from the 1960s to make the correct calculations, but he is not there, is he?. Someone who can calculate weight and fall and ensure instant death. The police say many try to remove the rope with their fingers and nails, but fail. A painful death and a blackened face.
I have lost friends, who killed themselves in this way. Please excuse me for this OT post. If only one suicadal reader or a relative takes notice, I have not lived in vain.
No comment on the Strelkov rumors.
Back to the subject of the trade and sanctions war, ZH is now reporting that Europe has delayed its free-trade deal with the Ukraine by at least a year:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/europe-folds-russian-demands-delays-ukraine-free-trade-deal-over-year
Last week, EU announced sanctions but then it turned out they were only against the oil sector — not against the gas sector of the Russian energy industry. Also, the sanctions wouldn’t go into effect until later in September and meanwhile some EU banks are in negotiations to loan money to Russia.
So, at first it sounded kind of bad, but reading between the lines even a little, the sanctions turned out to be rather less biting.
EU: “Fu*k you Putin!! We’re shutting down your business!! But… we will loan you some money right away, and please keep selling us lots of gas so we don’t freeze to death this winter… please.” Lol
And meanwhile, ZH has also reported that Poland saw its gas supplies from Russia tumble by 45% this past week, and they have in turn capped the reverse flow to the Ukraine
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-11/poland-says-russian-gas-deliveries-tumble-45-europe-threatens-new-sanctions-be-enact
(Worth clicking for the funny photocollage of Yatsenyuk trying to siphon some gas)
It’s looking to be a cold and expensive winter for the vassals.
Regarding the the hanged Strelkov rumour:
When in panic, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
In news related to Novorossia and Russia, some new developments:
Второй гуманитарный конвой отправится в Луганск 13 сентября (The second humanitarian convoy will travel to Lugansk September 13)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1410525879 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1410525879
Fortunately that is Saturday the 13th, not Friday the 13th.
Путин порадовался за попавших под санкции чиновников (видео) (Putin was happy for targeted by sanctions officials (video))
http://rusvesna.su/news/1410553756 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1410553756
” Russian President Vladimir Putin welcomed the sanctions of the European Union, concerning officials and deputies of the state Duma.
“I welcome this decision of the European Union (the expansion of the list fall under the sanctions of individuals). The less our officers and Directors of large companies would go abroad, and to deal with current Affairs, the better. The same applies to the deputies of the state Duma, which often need to communicate with their voters,” said Putin at the summit of the Shanghai cooperation organization (SCO) in Dushanbe.
According to the President, in the last “batch” of EU sanctions more positive than negative, although “there are things that are negative. The head of state stressed that this is not Russia’s choice, but if one of the partners does not want to work with Russia, there is always an alternative.
The reasons for the introduction of new sanctions, according to Putin, is also unclear. He suggested that the peace process in Ukraine may be someone evil…”
НАТО больше не главный военный союз на планете – первые итоги саммита ШОС в Душанбе (NATO is no longer the main military Alliance on the planet – the first results of the SCO summit in Dushanbe)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1410556777 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1410556777
“…Although this has not been formally spoken, but in fact the first result of this event can be considered the words of one anonymous expert: “Well, NATO, now move over”…
… More obvious is stated in Dushanbe SCO’s position in relation to the “Ukrainian crisis”: it must be quickly resolved peacefully. Realizing that the conflict in Ukraine is a direct threat to Russia and, through it, all the above-mentioned international associations and vitally important for all involved joint economic and social projects, all the SCO countries expressed support for the peace plan of Vladimir Putin.
Recall that this plan is currently implemented only in respect of the ceasefire and the start of negotiations. Waiting in the wings this item as the withdrawal of troops from villages in the distance beyond the reach of artillery fire. That essentially means the removal of punitive grouping of Kiev Donbass, as the density of its population does not allow you to withdraw the troops at the specified distance and stay within it.“
вот так
Nora, BH Levy is, in my opinion, without a doubt, one of the vilest creatures I have seen in all my years, and my necessarily incomplete knowledge of history does not provide many others that are his equal. The combination of narcissistic self-regard and either utter imbecility or truly outrageous mendacity is repulsive. That he was complicit in major atrocities like the destruction of Libya, even if only by adding his mucilaginous imprimatur to the propaganda effort, makes me hope for a proper system of International Justice somehow arising that sends creatures like this to the deepest dungeon for the rest of their hideous existence, or the existence of a just and vengeful God.
A group of Israeli spies from the Israeli equivalent of the NSA have just publicly protested their roles in spying on the Palestinians. Spying not to protect Israelis but to get dirt on any or every Palestinian, regarding finances, illnesses, personal peccadilloes etc, all to be used for blackmail, coercion and the forced recruiting of spies and informers and to turn Palestinians against each other. Hardly world-breaking news (and the Zionazis use torture to recruit Fifth Columnists too, and to intimidate and suppress)but, no doubt, a tool they, the US and Western intelligence agencies use throughout the world. If you wonder why Euro politicians are acting like self-harming cravens in sanctioning Russia, it may be because they have been made an offer that they cannot refuse.
Anonymess 16:37:
dead Russian soldiers showing up in Russia and the Soldiers’ Mothers committee complaints and this being “hushed up”?
The Soldier’s Mothers Commiittee is a US funded NGO – i.e. an agent of foreign influence.
Soldiers die all the time for a variety of reasons, just like normal people suffer accidents or die young sometimes. Unless you have some conclusive proof about specific cases you wish to share? Normal death rate of men 18-39 is around 1.5 per 1000. So if there are a million Russian soldiers, you might expect 1500 deaths per year from accidents and normal causes. There is no need to propagandize such normal occurrances.
Anonymous 23:12,
You are One. Sick. Pup.
Also wrong.
Get out of here.
WestTX, Anonymous, Mulga and everyone else gagging on BHL,
I know! ;~) I put him up for comic relief — he’s SOOO awful he makes me giggle.
The best protection someone can get is God’s protection…
and good people should protect one another in God.
Strelkov needs Putin, and Putin needs all the help he can get, I am sure he will come up with a formula.
Saker, I broadly agree with your analysis, but the methods of this fifth column in Russia is identical to the methods of the neoconservatives in the US, in my view, your Atlanticists are their Russian version.
The Saker, you should NOT spread the rumours like this.
It does not help and breaks one’s heart above all.
We are not in Hollywood.
please don’t do it in the future.
@Anonymous: The Saker, you should NOT spread the rumours like this.
Did you even read what I posted?! If yes, sorry, this blog is not for drolling idiots.
The Saker
The reason I read asiatimes is because they allow reporters who can not publish anywhere else even if they are under constraints and hence moderated and they wont print articles that even mentions situations that are not allowed by countries around them, yet still for reports outside the area, it is one of the few that dont feel threatened by western finances to support themselves. I been following Pepe Escobar for more than a decade and he always lightens the mood no matter how dark things seem. His creative way of writing makes light of the seriousness of the events without belittling it and turning it into a joke. I say that because some of the news is so depressing that you dont bother to read it and just stop reading as you get more and more depressed as you realizes the ramifications of things.
And when MSM is owned and controlled by the few.. any light is good news..
“The left is far more infiltrated by actual paid agents of the FBI and the CIA, and the like, than most of us on the left are willing to think about seriously. The CIA…has virtually unlimited funds. It is above and beyond the law and it knows no moral constraints. It has no financial or moral or legal constraints to stop it from doing whatever it’s going to do. There’s a tremendously large number of CIA agents who are moles within the media. They occupy positions, high and low, throughout the newspaper, television, radio, and book publishing industries.” –Barrie Zwicker
Will NATO liberate Jihadistan?
So The Caliph is not exactly quaking in his Made-in-USA desert boots. He’s even dreaming of taking on the Slavic Caliph himself. How come Marvel Comics never thought about that?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-03-050914.html