Dear Saker
Sheik Imran Hosein’s take on the Sultan’s (anomaly ridden) coup is worth reading imo.
“……….The immediate result of the attempted coup is to make Erdogan strong enough to better lead Turkey, on NATO’s behalf, in NATO’s coming war with Russia…..”
I’m sure both Putin & Xi Ping are smart enough to smell a Trojan Horse and may see fit to want to keep the ‘madman’ close …. however ….. http://katehon.com/article/turkish-coup-russia-turkey-enough-love-last-until-great-war
Come on Saker, you’ve got to post more on the Donbass.
OSCE: ‘Whilst in “DPR”-controlled Yasynuvata (16km north-east of Donetsk) on 16 July, the SMM visited the office of the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC). The Russian Federation Armed Forces representative told the SMM that he would not provide the Mission with information regarding ceasefire violations from the previous night. He stated that monitors should spend the night at the observation post themselves if they wanted information about ceasefire violations. An armed man added that the SMM was not welcome there.
On the afternoon of 16 July, two security guards, whose presence had been assured by the JCCC at the SMM forward patrol base in “DPR”-controlled Debaltseve (58km north-east of Donetsk), were no longer present. In response to the SMM’s concerns, the JCCC initially told the Mission that it was not their role to ensure the security of the SMM in Debaltseve. The SMM monitors temporarily relocated to Donetsk city before returning to Debaltseve on 17 July, when the JCCC again facilitated the presence of the security guards at the base.’ http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/254731
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‘At the office of the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in “DPR”-controlled Yasynuvata, the Russian Federation Armed Forces officers again refused to share with the SMM their record of ceasefire violations from the previous night, stating they had orders not to do so (see SMM Daily Report 18 July 2016). The SMM informed the JCCC.’ http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/255061
Also, what about the influx of (more) mercenaries into the Donbass, with what was revealed by that defector this week; Canada’s military authorities have decided to cancel a training mission in Ukraine and withdraw the instructors by end of 2016. So how Brit instructors remain, and isn’t that in violation of Minsk 2?
Any comment on the use of more mortars instead of arty?
What’s the outcome in kiev/central & western USUkraine to the continued massive utility increases?
Any news on the effectiveness or otherwise regarding the replacement negotiator sent by Moscow, that you commented on months ago?
seems to me that everything is going in right direction for CIA/US. week or two Turkey will be unable to use army to stop any creation of kurdish state /autonomous region in Iraq and even part of Turkey under US “umbrella”. because there would be no more efective turkish military. Erdogan is destroying own army. his ego will destroy Turkey. he is playing just CIA predicted. and”Zucker kommt zuletzt” , nato would eject Turkey from organization. i think, coup meet expectations from “lead from behind”. it is a huge game. when comes to US interests there are no allies or friends. they did not move a small finger to help Turkish government. Turkey did not met expectations regarding Syria and now is next in line to be destroyed as state. this August will be very hot month.
The theatre with F16’s overlying Ankara and firing on helicopters just doesn’t seem very much in the line of a realistic coup, not to mention the F16’s that locked on Erdogan’s private jet but didn’t fire, or the trails of just-to-late assaults on locations he had just vacated. The coup is real enough, but it is by Erdogan himself. His accusations against Gülen just serve to underscore the phony narrative that is being constructed.
If you look at who benefits from this amateurish coup attempt you must draw the conclusion that it is Erdogan. The U.S. – CIA etc could have coordinated with the Erdogan regime allowing him now to assume all power of the state as a prefix to further plans the two nations may have for the removal of Assad as the primary goal all along. The so called frosty relations between the U.S. and Turkey may just be a distraction to fool those looking on to both’s real long term aims, which as far as I can tell have never changed. The rapprochement with Russia may be another ruse de guerre to ensure major shock and slow response when double crossed.. If Aleppo is the key to this war and the SAA and friends are slowly taking control then the U.S. may have to act quickly on any plans they have for saving the situation. Could a direct conflict between Turkey, with her NATO backstop,and Syria be in those plans enabled by some major false flag yet to come as a casus belli? All this human suffering death and destruction solely to keep the American dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
If I wanted to seize power from Erdogan, July would have been the best time for me to make my move. Erdogan was having internal problems and he decided to make things worse for himself by making a U-Turn in Foreign Policy. By publicly apologizing to Putin, Erdogan committed the greatest crime in known to mankind and made The Punisher very angry. That was a big mistake and I won’t wait until August before I use Erdogan’s mistake as the tool to remove him from power.
But then, if I were Russia, July would have been the month to start my countdown to victory in Syria. Erdogan just apologized and I know for sure that the AngloZionists wouldn’t take anymore from Erdogan. I mean he has failed all his tasks in Syria. He failed to force Russia into a war with Turkey/NATO, he failed to invade Syria and crush Assad’s army, he refused to sit back and allow the Empire do whatever they want with the Kurds. Apologizing to Putin over one single task he succeeded is totally unacceptable. I know for sure the Empire will punish Erdogan. So Putin being Putin decided to do what he knows how to do best, WIN hearts to win the battle. He knew a cooperative Turkey will bring and end to the conflict in Syria so he decided to win Erdogan’s heart by SAVING HIS LIFE!
Note: RT and Sputnik reported that it was the Russian intelligence agency that tipped Erdogan and MIT “hours” before the coup attempt. Well it could be. 240 hours and it could be 2 hours but if I were Erdogan, it wouldn’t matter how many hours to the coup. At least by informing me, my life had been saved. I’ll call it a gift of life, and a gift from God too because all those in the opposition that have been questioning my authority will be locked up in jail and for the next three months, I will be the one and only one with absolute authority in Turkey.
Once again, if I was planning a coup on Erdogan and I found out that he already knew, I’ll be left with two options. One is to commit suicide because Erdogan is a bloody BEAST and I fear what he will do to me. The second option is to go down fighting, that is attempting a coup anyways even if it is not well planned.
Pardon my poor writing skills, but I am trying to say what I feel in my mind. I feel like this whole thing is not a false flag. Saying that it is a false flag is simply fantasy or conspiracy theory. Even if it is a false flag, the fact that MSM outlets support that notion automatically makes it the opposite.
On a side note, I do not believe that the purge in the military will weaken it. Even if it does, it should be temporary. A 100 loyal, united and brave soldiers are more efficient than 1000 disunited soldiers.
Dear Saker
Sheik Imran Hosein’s take on the Sultan’s (anomaly ridden) coup is worth reading imo.
“……….The immediate result of the attempted coup is to make Erdogan strong enough to better lead Turkey, on NATO’s behalf, in NATO’s coming war with Russia…..”
I’m sure both Putin & Xi Ping are smart enough to smell a Trojan Horse and may see fit to want to keep the ‘madman’ close …. however …..
http://katehon.com/article/turkish-coup-russia-turkey-enough-love-last-until-great-war
Come on Saker, you’ve got to post more on the Donbass.
OSCE: ‘Whilst in “DPR”-controlled Yasynuvata (16km north-east of Donetsk) on 16 July, the SMM visited the office of the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC). The Russian Federation Armed Forces representative told the SMM that he would not provide the Mission with information regarding ceasefire violations from the previous night. He stated that monitors should spend the night at the observation post themselves if they wanted information about ceasefire violations. An armed man added that the SMM was not welcome there.
On the afternoon of 16 July, two security guards, whose presence had been assured by the JCCC at the SMM forward patrol base in “DPR”-controlled Debaltseve (58km north-east of Donetsk), were no longer present. In response to the SMM’s concerns, the JCCC initially told the Mission that it was not their role to ensure the security of the SMM in Debaltseve. The SMM monitors temporarily relocated to Donetsk city before returning to Debaltseve on 17 July, when the JCCC again facilitated the presence of the security guards at the base.’ http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/254731
&
‘At the office of the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in “DPR”-controlled Yasynuvata, the Russian Federation Armed Forces officers again refused to share with the SMM their record of ceasefire violations from the previous night, stating they had orders not to do so (see SMM Daily Report 18 July 2016). The SMM informed the JCCC.’ http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/255061
Also, what about the influx of (more) mercenaries into the Donbass, with what was revealed by that defector this week; Canada’s military authorities have decided to cancel a training mission in Ukraine and withdraw the instructors by end of 2016. So how Brit instructors remain, and isn’t that in violation of Minsk 2?
Any comment on the use of more mortars instead of arty?
What’s the outcome in kiev/central & western USUkraine to the continued massive utility increases?
Any news on the effectiveness or otherwise regarding the replacement negotiator sent by Moscow, that you commented on months ago?
I think Corbett Report nails it again.
https://youtu.be/nxpuotIMlY0
seems to me that everything is going in right direction for CIA/US. week or two Turkey will be unable to use army to stop any creation of kurdish state /autonomous region in Iraq and even part of Turkey under US “umbrella”. because there would be no more efective turkish military. Erdogan is destroying own army. his ego will destroy Turkey. he is playing just CIA predicted. and”Zucker kommt zuletzt” , nato would eject Turkey from organization. i think, coup meet expectations from “lead from behind”. it is a huge game. when comes to US interests there are no allies or friends. they did not move a small finger to help Turkish government. Turkey did not met expectations regarding Syria and now is next in line to be destroyed as state. this August will be very hot month.
The theatre with F16’s overlying Ankara and firing on helicopters just doesn’t seem very much in the line of a realistic coup, not to mention the F16’s that locked on Erdogan’s private jet but didn’t fire, or the trails of just-to-late assaults on locations he had just vacated. The coup is real enough, but it is by Erdogan himself. His accusations against Gülen just serve to underscore the phony narrative that is being constructed.
If you look at who benefits from this amateurish coup attempt you must draw the conclusion that it is Erdogan. The U.S. – CIA etc could have coordinated with the Erdogan regime allowing him now to assume all power of the state as a prefix to further plans the two nations may have for the removal of Assad as the primary goal all along. The so called frosty relations between the U.S. and Turkey may just be a distraction to fool those looking on to both’s real long term aims, which as far as I can tell have never changed. The rapprochement with Russia may be another ruse de guerre to ensure major shock and slow response when double crossed.. If Aleppo is the key to this war and the SAA and friends are slowly taking control then the U.S. may have to act quickly on any plans they have for saving the situation. Could a direct conflict between Turkey, with her NATO backstop,and Syria be in those plans enabled by some major false flag yet to come as a casus belli? All this human suffering death and destruction solely to keep the American dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
The coup was very real. And it failed miserably.
Now NATO is in damage control. This is good because it will show you who are trolls and who are not.
If I wanted to seize power from Erdogan, July would have been the best time for me to make my move. Erdogan was having internal problems and he decided to make things worse for himself by making a U-Turn in Foreign Policy. By publicly apologizing to Putin, Erdogan committed the greatest crime in known to mankind and made The Punisher very angry. That was a big mistake and I won’t wait until August before I use Erdogan’s mistake as the tool to remove him from power.
But then, if I were Russia, July would have been the month to start my countdown to victory in Syria. Erdogan just apologized and I know for sure that the AngloZionists wouldn’t take anymore from Erdogan. I mean he has failed all his tasks in Syria. He failed to force Russia into a war with Turkey/NATO, he failed to invade Syria and crush Assad’s army, he refused to sit back and allow the Empire do whatever they want with the Kurds. Apologizing to Putin over one single task he succeeded is totally unacceptable. I know for sure the Empire will punish Erdogan. So Putin being Putin decided to do what he knows how to do best, WIN hearts to win the battle. He knew a cooperative Turkey will bring and end to the conflict in Syria so he decided to win Erdogan’s heart by SAVING HIS LIFE!
Note: RT and Sputnik reported that it was the Russian intelligence agency that tipped Erdogan and MIT “hours” before the coup attempt. Well it could be. 240 hours and it could be 2 hours but if I were Erdogan, it wouldn’t matter how many hours to the coup. At least by informing me, my life had been saved. I’ll call it a gift of life, and a gift from God too because all those in the opposition that have been questioning my authority will be locked up in jail and for the next three months, I will be the one and only one with absolute authority in Turkey.
Once again, if I was planning a coup on Erdogan and I found out that he already knew, I’ll be left with two options. One is to commit suicide because Erdogan is a bloody BEAST and I fear what he will do to me. The second option is to go down fighting, that is attempting a coup anyways even if it is not well planned.
Pardon my poor writing skills, but I am trying to say what I feel in my mind. I feel like this whole thing is not a false flag. Saying that it is a false flag is simply fantasy or conspiracy theory. Even if it is a false flag, the fact that MSM outlets support that notion automatically makes it the opposite.
On a side note, I do not believe that the purge in the military will weaken it. Even if it does, it should be temporary. A 100 loyal, united and brave soldiers are more efficient than 1000 disunited soldiers.