Spirit of the Srebrenica narrative | The Vineyard of the Saker

by Ljubiša Malenica for the Saker Blog

When one speaks of Srebrenica and events which transpired in that town, especially within context of Western media, a biased interpretation of events has already become the norm. The narrative, backed for years by media outlets, NGOs and The Hague tribunal, has focused on crimes and alleged crimes by Serb forces against the Muslim population, deliberately deciding to ignore two years of crimes by the so-called “Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina” against the Serbian civilians in the same region.

When Srebrenica is mentioned, it must remind of Serbian guilt and Muslim victims. Anything that questions this propaganda message must be kept away from the mainstream media so as to assure the preservation of the sterilized and idealized image of events presented to both domestic and foreign audiences.

Even a discussion about Serb victims cannot be allowed, as it opens space for unpleasant questions. The introduction of Serbian victims into the story of Srebrenica shakes the very foundation of established narrative, undermining the malicious premise of Serbian guilt. Serbian victims, especially those belonging to the category of civilians, point to the long-term presence of Serbs in the region and erode the image of “Serbian aggressors” who emerged from somewhere to destroy Bosnia and Herzegovina. Once the killing of innocent Serbs is accepted, then the question of who are the individuals or military units responsible for these crimes and destruction of Serbian property must inevitably be asked. This line of reasoning, immediately afterwards, proceeds to logically undermine a phrase very dear to the Western media, which continues to insist on the “demilitarized”^[1]^[2]^[3] nature of the Srebrenica enclave.

The issue of perpetrators is automatically followed by question regarding severity of their punishment and its implementation. The knowledge that main organizers of Muslim attacks on Serbian villages went unpunished and that today are considered “exemplary” citizens of BiH, would further shake the narrative about Srebrenica, already on glass legs.

The need to preserve the image of Srebrenica as it was shaped by the Western media and the propaganda of the Muslim leadership from BiH does not exist in a vacuum. Moreover, Srebrenica has been used on several occasions, since war in Bosnia ended, as justification for alleged US humanitarian interventions in other countries.

During the aggression of the United States and its allies on FR Yugoslavia, Western demagogues and media personalities often referred to Srebrenica, noting, in a very serious voice and with a worried expression, how they would not allow its “repetition”. U.S. spokesmen in preparation for attack on Iraq also mentioned Srebrenica and warned that such events must not be allowed to be repeated under Saddam Hussein’s regime.^[4] The attacks on Libya and the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi were preceded by a media campaign in which Srebrenica found its place again^[5] only for motif of Srebrenica to finally be used during conflict in Syria as a tool in an attempt to further demonize the government of Bashar al-Assad.^[6]

The irony of all this lies in the fact that events in Srebrenica, and their later interpretation, were instrumental in destruction of several stable states, where death toll was measured in tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of civilian victims, mostly Muslims. All of this came to pass by will of the same people who “determined“ what happened in Srebrenica and agreed that such a thing should never happen again.

As already pointed out, for the needs of internal stability of the Srebrenica narrative, Serbs could not exist as victims, while in the international context, Serbian victims could not be mentioned as that would humanize the enemy that West was warring against. The suffering of Serbs within the story of Srebrenica would by automatism indicate existence of the other side of the medal for each of conflicts listed above. Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, and of course Serbs, had to be thoroughly dehumanized so that the crimes against them would lose negative aspect and be accompanied with indifference or joy.

In an earlier text, entitled “US support for the project of Greater Albania” ^[7], the author drew attention to the development of the social background for the American society as it is today. At the heart of this development is leftist ideology. Within the previous text, this ideology is treated in somewhat broader lines, but for the purposes of this text, we will limit ourselves to a briefer explanation.

A thread of racial relations between the inhabitants of the United States has always run through US society. Fact that the first blacks arrived in United States as slaves over time became one of the basic identity characteristics for the black population. Needless to say, overemphasizing the role of victim can badly affect a certain community. Through mass media and the entertainment industry, a dichotomy has been created within American society since the 1960s. Whites in United States were assigned the role of oppressors while blacks, along with other minorities, became victims. The former have been pressured to develop a guilt complex while the latter where encouraged to accept the victim complex.

Multiculturalism and globalism transfered these relations to the global level, including Europe, where the European left, ideologically barren, accepted the new dogma from US and significantly expanded it through Western Europe, thus encouraging americanization of European nations.

By the means of a “long march through institutions,” American leftists have succeeded in imbedding their cadres within a large number of important positions both in American society and within US political structure. These ideologically imbued individuals and groups recognized in Serbs the historical actors who perfectly fitted the constructed stereotype of “bad guys”.

An illustrative example are the current developments in United States themselves. Despite their very different nature, death of George Floyd and the events in Srebrenica were covered by the Western media, especially the official ones, almost identically. The similarities are reflected in a few key details. The first, and perhaps the most important detail, is concentration of attention to the moment of the event itself. In case of Floyd, focus was given to the moment of his death, while within Srebrenica narrative, all attention was given over to the events after Serbian forces entered into the enclave. The image created in this manner is very narrow and simplified, thus it can be easily interpreted by means of a very simple good-bad dichotomy. At the same time, nature of this image provides those who created it with the opportunity to interpret it in a way most suited to their interests. Nothing else exists but an image and only that one moment becomes the foundation of reality.

Judging by data on his earlier life, George Floyd was not an exemplary citizen, moreover, his behavior was far from that. In period from 1998 to 2014, Floyd was arrested several times for criminal behavior and ended up in prison five times.^[8] In 2007, he was arrested after, accompanied by others, he forcibly entered the house of a woman, who was also of African descent, and threatened her with a gun while others searched the building looking for money and narcotics. According to some sources, woman was pregnant at the time.^[9]^[10]

As can be seen from the way George Floyd’s character and work are currently glorified, his earlier behavior seems to be non-existent and, through the media narrative, is completely separated from the framed moment which became the totality of Floyd’s existence. In that one moment, he is a martyr, and as such is portrayed through entirety of his life, even though such depiction is completely unrelated to reality. This exact perspective was used to observe the events in Srebrenica.

Attacks by Muslim forces, fact that a military unit, a division in fact, functioned within the “demilitarized” zone, and the killings of Serb civilians by that same military unit were completely ignored while the narrative of Srebrenica was taking shape. As in the case of Floyd, Srebrenica was reduced to a two-dimensional, low-resolution image in which the fall of the enclave became the only significant event. Moreover, one gets the impression it was this very event that inexplicably introduced Srebrenica itself into the currents of reality. As if the town in question did not exist before 1995.

This frozen moment served as a starting point for building the whole story regarding the event itself, in accordance with the wishes of those who interpreted it. During the narrative creation, it was necessary to divide the roles, which had to be clearly defined and opposed, in order to maintain the imposed perception of events and simplify its consumption by a society that has changed from civic to consumer. Earlier mentioned good-bad dichotomy enters the scene.

An accompanying feature of narrative development is demonization of the other through generalization, neglect of facts and manipulation of data from the field so as to burden the perception of events with additional emotional baggage. In turn, this further leads to reduced ability to rationally perceive happenings by those defined as victims and rational contemplation by those who are interested in objectively investigating the case in question. Conformism is required and it is forbidden to question the established “truth”, but only to accept the role of the victim, the culprit or the observer who inevitably takes the side of the victim, so that his humanity itself would not be called into question.

As we pointed out earlier, George Floyd was not an exemplary citizen, much less someone who deserves to be hailed as a hero, but that doesn’t matter. Roles were assigned and the narrative set. Those who accept the narrative are allies and, according to the logic of the narrative itself, “good guys”, while everyone else falls into the category of “villains”, even those whose only sin is found in desire to investigate certain segments of the story, so as to create a more complete picture . The frozen moment must not be disturbed in any way.

Having established an “appropriate” picture of the events in Srebrenica, the Western media, wholeheartedly supported by the political elites, conveyed through generalization sentiment related to these particular events onto the entire course of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Kosmet. Retroactively, Serbs became the “bad guys” of the wars from the nineties, not in terms of military units or political leadership, but as an entire nation.^[11] Some Western media, such as the British Guardian, supported bombing of FR Yugoslavia by emphasizing that Serbs, again as a nation, were incapable of running their own affairs and needed to be reduced to status of an international protectorate. London’s attempt to push through United Nations a resolution that would characterize the events in Srebrenica as genocide and declare July 11 a day of remembrance is an excellent example of the mentioned demonization, given that the entire document was ranged against Serbs as a collective.^[12]^[13]

The manipulation of information about the events in Srebrenica and war in Bosnia, by Western media, was ubiquitous, starting from the alleged number of Muslim victims to the real nature of the so-called “demilitarized” zone in Srebrenica. Already in the first half of 1993, Muslim political leadership claimed that 200.000 Muslims in Bosnia had died since war began. Although the inflation was obvious, the Western media accepted it unreservedly, as it corresponded with the narrative.^[14] The same thing happened during the war in Kosmet, where American officials claimed in the early days of conflict that the number of dead Albanians exceeded half a million. After the end of the war in BiH, it turned out that the total number of victims on all sides was around 100.000, while the final figure in Kosovo ranged between six and seven thousand dead on both sides.

When prompted to speak about Srebrenica, Western officials and media will never mention the claim of an experienced British journalist, Joan Phillips, that by March 31, 1993, of the 9.300 Serbs who had previously resided in Srebrenica, less than 900 remained, nor the fact that by that time about 26 Serb villages had already been destroyed. There is no discussion of Islamist ideological background to Alija Izetbegovic political activities, which is recognized easily enough from his “Islamic Declaration”, a text that does not differ in nature from the propaganda material of Islamic terrorist groups. Canadian General Lewis MacKenzie insisted that the black-and-white narrative represented in the media did not correspond to the situation on the ground, pointing out that „evidence to date suggests that he (Naser Oric, a Bosnian Muslim commander in Srebrenica) was responsible for killing as many Serb civilians outside Srebrenica as the Bosnian Serb army was for massacring Bosnian Muslims inside the town.”^[15]

Forensic expert dr. Zoran Stanković, long before July 1995, discovered more than a thousand corpses of Serbs in the vicinity of Srebrenica, but of course he could not be trusted, he was a Serb and therefore completely unreliable as a source. The narrative insisted so. The stingy articles of Bill Schiller, Toronto Star journalist and John Pomfret, Washington Post journalists, within which Oric boasted about murder of Serbs, attracted little attention and were quickly forgotten. The book “Planned Chaos” by a Muslim official from Srebrenica, Ibran Mustafić, which unreservedly defines Naser Oric as a war criminal, was neglected despite the fact that the author was one of the “good guys”. As in previous cases, he deviated from the established narrative.

After discovery of mass graves, which supposedly indicated Serbian responsibility, couple of facts were conveniently overlooked. First among them is discovery of Serbian remains among the bodies, while the second one is that Muslim soldiers who had died in earlier fighting or attempted breakthrough from Srebrenica were included in the category of victims.^[16]

As can be noticed, even within the West there were people from different spheres of life who sought to present events on the ground in accordance with their real nature. Since their views did not coincide with the desired image of the Western political elite and large media houses, very little attention was paid to them.

Data manipulation and demonization of rivals^[17] were the initial steps in an attempt at social engineering, directed against the Serbian people, where guilt over the events in Srebrenica was to become the central motive on which to base future Serbian identity. An identity created in this manner would, over time, lead to loss of attachment to the Serbian nationality, both in quantitative and qualitative terms, and the extinction of the nation. Insisting on a version of events supported by the West and the Muslim leadership reflects this intention.

This is not the first time that American media and administration have attempted something similar. As we pointed out earlier, referring to contemporary events in the United States, one of the current foundations of American society is a concept, invented and advocated by the American left, known as “white” guilt.

At the heart of this perspective lies the claim that those residents of United States who are of European descent are to blame for the trans-Atlantic slave trade, given that the first enslaved blacks were brought to America mostly by European slave traders. Several logical errors immediately catch the eye, which taken together make the complete idea insane and dangerous. When we talk about the slave trade and slavery as a social phenomenon, we must start from the fact that every human society, regardless of geographical location, at one point in history considered the existence of slaves a completely normal and acceptable social phenomenon. Throughout history, there were slaves of both sexes, of all ages and in all skin colors. It is a historical fact that Europeans were not the only ones to trade in black slaves. The Arabs did the same, together with African tribal chiefs and kings who sold prisoners from other tribes, and otherwise socially undesirable individuals, to slave traders.

The reactions of several important African rulers to decision of Great Britain from 1807, which prohibits any slave trade as an illegal act, are illustrative. The king of the African state Bonny, occupying the Niger delta, reacted to the British decision with dismay, emphasizing how “we think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by God himself.”^[18] Some thirty years later, King of Dahomey (the contemporary state of Benin), another famous African kingdom, noted during negotiations with British envoys that “the slave trade is the ruling principle of my people. It is the source and the glory of their wealth…the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery…“^[19] Slavery in Africa was present for hundreds of years, long before the black slave trade for American plantations began, and interestingly, the question of black slave-owners possessing black slaves never arises. As can be seen from the narrative present within American society, “Muslim” and “black” guilt for the slave trade does not exist at all.

The question of time arises of itself, considering that today not one slaveowner of that period, either European, Muslim and African, is among the living. Undoubtedly there are those among the American population who are descendants of European slaveowners but the logical question is how can they bear any guilt for something their ancestors did three to four hundred years ago? The notion of “white” guilt does just that and removes the time dimension completely. Belonging to the white race is enough for a person currently alive to bear the blame for real or imagined sins of their ancestors from the distant past. If we follow logic of this argument to its end, it turns out that every race and nation on this planet is to be blamed for something that happened in the past. All Asian nations bear the blame for millions of killed and enslaved by the Mongols, while the whole of Africa must take responsibility for the actions of ancient Carthage, one of the largest slave-trading centers of the ancient Mediterranean.

There are no innocents, moreover, every individual is guilty for the crimes of his ancestors, regardless of whether they are real, the product of propaganda or ignorance. Within the demagoguery of the American leftist elite, this idea of guilt will never be implemented to its logical end, since that would lead to a situation in which everyone is guilty and where there are no victims. This, of course, damages the constructed image of the world, therefore it becomes necessary to employ manipulation, lies, and fifth-column structures within targeted societies or groups. In Serbia and generally in Serbian lands, groups such as Women in Black, the Center for Decontamination and the Center for Euro-Atlantic Studies are among some of the most infamous fifth-column structures at the moment.

The very notion of “white guilt” is, in its essence, racist. Name itself directly encompasses the totality of the white race, and thus, in the slave trade conducted mostly by limited number of people from Western Europe, all whites become accomplices and culprits. The fact that, for example, the Slavic countries in the Balkans never had colonies in Africa, and that they themselves were under Turkish yoke at the same time, means nothing to leftist ideologues. Despite cases being the same, or very similar, according to the “white guilt” narrative in the United States, it is enough to be white to become a culprit. In the end, we find ourselves in a situation where racists and auto-chauvinists with ease proclaim their ideology, labeling all those who oppose them as racists and chauvinists.

All of the above, step by step, can be applied to the events in Srebrenica and the narrative that was later built around it. The responsibility of Muslims and, if we look at the totality of war in Bosnia, of Croats for crimes against Serbs within the construction of the Western media does not exist, which according to twisted internal logic leads to the conclusion that the crimes in question were never committed. The British resolution, which Russian veto sent to the garbage heap of history, where it belongs, was an attempt to erase the temporal dimension by raising Srebrenica to a level of an event that would on a yearly basis remind all Mankind of the alleged Serbian guilt.

The language of the British resolution, when it comes to Srebrenica, is there with the intention of creating a national version of “white” guilt within Serbian people, mostly using the collective name Serbs to characterize participation in any political, social or military event during the breakup of the former Yugoslavia. These events are always characterized as bad, regardless of the real situation, and by participating in them, Serbs are therefore defined as bad, collectively. The fact that Serbs are not a monolithic mass that is always completely in the same place or takes part in the same activities seems to be too abstract for Western journalists and officials.

Of course, issue here is neither naivety nor ignorance of facts, but a clearly defined intention to attribute blame for crimes, regardless of whether they are real or not, upon Serbs collectively and then to demand social change, “examination” of the past, fight against “evil” nationalism and the like, all the intellectual swill we’ve been listening for decades. In time, “guilt” would shift from the cultural to the political sphere, where, given their status as villains, Serbs would be expected to make political concessions aimed at further weakening their own interests.

The resolution of Great Britain itself becomes very interesting when you look at it in parallel with documents from which London recently removed the label of top secret, and which refer to the events in Srebrenica. Namely, within the published material, it is clearly stated that the attack on Srebrenica occurred as a reaction to provocations of Muslim formations from within the enclave itself.^[20] Moreover, British documentation points out that the attack was not planned by then political and military leadership of Republic of Srpska, but is attributed to the initiative of the local military commander.^[21] The size of the forces involved in the attack, one infantry company and four tanks, suggests limited initial targets which were later expanded when the absence of Muslim resistance was noticed. One of the most interesting segments of the new documentation refers to the suspicions of the Canadian government at the time regarding the real reasons for almost non-existent defense by Muslim forces and the fact that about two thousand Muslim soldiers participated in withdrawal to Tuzla, during which significant number of them died combating Serbian forces.

All of these informations must have been known to the authorities in London from the very beginning, so the case of British resolution must be viewed from perspective of an attempt to preserve the spent Western narrative about the events in the Srebrenica enclave.

The neglect of Serbian victims, in service of emphasizing Serbian guilt, can also be seen through the attempt of United States and its allies to divert public attention from activities which, ideologically speaking, countries full of self-praise for freedom, democracy and respect of human rights could not afford. The most important of these is the question of connection between United States, that is CIA, and presence of mujahedin in Bosnia.

During the civil war, Muslim forces in Bosnia and Herzegovina were assisted in weapons, equipment, money and volunteers by a significant number of Muslim countries such as Turkey, Iran, Malaysia, Sudan, Brunei, Pakistan, UAE, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. The US administration was fully aware of the weapons smuggling for the Muslim forces, and even assisted the process through the private military company MPRI, which in 1996 delivered 46.000 rifles, 1.000 machine guns, 80 armored personnel carriers, 45 tanks, 840 anti-tank weapons and 15 helicopters.^[22]^[23] The American MPRI received 350 million dollars from the above-mentioned Muslim countries for the needs of training and equipping Muslims in BiH.

In addition to money, these countries sent Islamist volunteers to Bosnia and Herzegovina, including members of al-Qaeda, which did not trouble American political representatives at that time.

Two Islamists from Bosnia and Herzegovina later took part in the attack upon the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001^[24] closing a deadly circle where United States trained and equipped the same individuals who later killed around 3.000 American citizens. This unpleasant truth was suppressed and within the Western media, the entire war in Bosnia and Herzegovina was reduced to the events in Srebrenica. In time, the truth about the Islamists involved in the attack on the United States became available to the public, but by the time attack on the Twin Towers in New York could provide clearer insights into the nature of the war in BiH, Serbs were already branded as the only culprits.

When it comes to Srebrenica, an unavoidable topic is the game with the number of alleged victims. According to the sources of Western countries and organizations themselves, the dogmatic figure of 8.000 is mere inflation and any further addition of victims, which the Sarajevo political and intellectual elite strives for, is nothing but a morbid show that is repeated annually for the international and domestic needs of the Muslim political leadership.

Two months after Serb forces took control of Srebrenica, the then director of operations of the International Committee of the Red Cross for Western Europe, Angelo Gnaedinger, asked the leadership from Republic of Srpska and FRY for information on “about the 3.000 persons from Srebrenica whom witnesses say were arrested by Bosnian Serb forces”^[25] In the same period, Red Cross inquired from Muslim political leadership information regarding the fate of approximately 5.000 people who fled Srebrenica.

Eyewitnesses mentioned in the Red Cross report were actually members of a Dutch unit stationed in Srebrenica under the UNPROFOR flag. As they left the enclave, in a statement for the New York Times, Dutch soldiers pointed out that “that Bosnian Serb invaders executed at least 10 Muslim defenders and abducted between 150 and 300 men between the ages of 16 and 60”.^[26] Interestingly, article continues emphasizing how the “Dutch accounts, by soldiers, officers and the Defense Minister, were unanimous in asserting that the Bosnian Muslim soldiers who had been under siege in Srebrenica for three years abandoned the town around two days before it fell. Before the defenders left the town, General Couzy said, Dutch soldiers saw “in two locations there was fighting between Muslims themselves, between those who wanted to stay and those who wanted to go.” Many Dutch soldiers said they had been upset and troubled by the sight of soldiers seeming to abandon their wives and children to the advancing Serbs.” If Serbs were truly so abominable and bloodthirsty, as the narrative would suggest, one might inquire which man in right mind would leave his wife and children to the mercy of the advancing forces?

It is important to keep in mind that several thousand Muslim men fled from Srebrenica. Are we to conclude all these individuals had no love for their family members? Should we believe all of them were so selfish to place their own survival above that of their loved ones, or could we presume they left their families behind because they knew Serbs would not actually harm women and children? Interesting question for sure. However, of key importance is the obvious difference between the figures given by Dutch troops, familiar with the events on the ground, and the Red Cross, looking for data on ten times more alleged missing persons two months later.

In a September 1995 article, American Associated Press carried out additional inflation of alleged victims, emphasizing how “8,000 Muslims are missing from Srebrenica.” ^[27] The language of the article, which was later taken over by the New York Times and other media, is such that it leads reader to conclude Serbs were responsibe for disappearances.

The manipulation becomes obvious when you take into account a fact that in the same period, Red Cross requested from political leadership in Sarajevo information on the fate of 5.000 people from Srebrenica who left enclave at the beginning of the Serbian offensive. Considering that these five thousand people were not mentioned in talks with the Serbian leadership, it is a logical assumption that the Red Cross did not consider Serbs responsible for their disappearance nor a source of information regarding their ultimate fate. Moreover, in the same article, the then US ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, referring to US intelligence data photographs, “said they were strong evidence that Serbs executed as many as 2.700 people from the Muslim enclave.”^[28] What Madeleine forgot to point out is the fact that a significant number of Muslims were killed in the conflict with Serbian forces during the breakthrough from the enclave. ^[29]

If, for the purposes of this text, we accept Albright’s figure, then there can be no possible discourse about eight thousand victims. The magic number of 8.000 further loses its legitimacy when you take into account the fact that most of the previously mentioned five thousand “missing persons” were found alive and well in the territory controlled by Muslim forces. A New York Times article points out that “3.000 to 4.000 Bosnian Muslims who were considered by United Nations officials to be missing after the fall of the Srebrenica enclave have made their way through enemy lines to Bosnian Government territory.”^[30] The same information is published by London Times.

It is of extreme importance to notice how articles dealing with this event avoid mentioning the true nature of participants in this long march towards Muslim controlled territory. In the New York Times text they are referred as “Bosnian Muslims” and “missing” and give impression of civilians or at least non-combatants. In truth, participants of the breakthrough from Srebrenica were military aged males, armed and equipped for combat and overwhelmingly members of the 28^th division. Those who perished during this military operation overwhelmingly died in combat against Serbian forces and fights with each other.^[31]

Drazen Erdemovic’s testimony is taken as one of the basic elements of the accusation and a kind of confirmation of Serbian responsibility. Erdemovic, during his testimony, points out that he took part in the murder of 1.200 Muslims on a farm near Pilica, but the investigation of the Hague Tribunal forensic team at place indicated by Erdemovic found between 150 and 200 bodies, which again circles back to the initial testimony of Dutch soldiers.

Moreover, Professor Milivoje Ivanisevic from the University of Belgrade, while reviewing the list of missing persons, the one compiled by the Red Cross, determined it contained the names of five hundred people who died before Serbian troops entered Srebrenica. Further comparing the Red Cross list with voter lists for 1996 elections, Ivanisevic found that 3.016 persons listed as missing were simultaneously registered as fullfledged voters, suggesting either electoral fraud or the fact that those allegedly executed were actually alive.^[32]

By this point in time, the numbers game is all but obvious. Presence of Bosnian Muslims military personnel inside the “demilitarized” zone is an unquestionable fact, as is the breakthrough operation these units initiated as Serbian forces moved into Srebrenica. Many of these soldiers, in attempt to reach safety of territory under Muslim control, died either in combat or internecine clashes. Depending on the author, number of military casualties varies from around two thousand to almost five thousand Muslim dead. This begs a rather simple question. Where were all of these dead soldiers buried? Answer is obvious. They were used to inflate the number of supposed victims of “genocide” and were buried in Potocari. Author believes that for all intense and purposes, Potocari can be considered a military graveyard.

Recently finished work of the International Commission on suffering of Serbs in Sarajevo between 1991 and 1995^[33] already upended the story of Sarajevo as a city besieged by dastardly Serbs who were using Muslim citizenry for target practice. The fact that Sarajevo had more than 200^[34] camps, prisons and confinement sites for Serbs alone tarnishes the rather sterile picture of the Bosnian capital presented by mainstream media in the last 25 years. Work of the second commission, dealing with events in Srebrenica itself should be finished this year and further diminish already crumbling genocide narrative.

As part of their international efforts, regarding the events in Srebrenica, the Serbian political and intellectual elite must use fertile ground of the Russian Federation and China, which are ready to listen and cooperate constructively with Serbian experts on this topic. On several occasions, the Russian media has clearly shown interest in presenting the Serbian perspective and sources. On the other hand, in countries such as United States and UK, which are openly opposed to Serbian interests, it is necessary to recognize domestic actors, interested in the truth, and cooperate with them for purpose of refuting the already established narrative. The Serbian diaspora can play a significant role and it is therefore necessary to support, in every form, the efforts and work of Serbian emigrants in the West, given that this activity must be observed within efforts for preservation of Serbian identity and national belonging among those who were born or emigrated to other countries.

Our guiding idea in these endeavors should be the thought of noble Tesla: “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

Ljubiša Malenica was Born in Sarajevo in 1988. Elementary and High school attended in Srpsko Sarajevo. In 2014, after successful defense of master thesis “Geopolitics of the Byzantine Empire”, finished Master Degree Program in International Relations and Diplomacy at Faculty of Political Sciences in Sarajevo. Bearer of the Silver Badge award, awarded by University of Sarajevo for exemplary record and achievements during bachelor and master studies. In roles of either organizer, lecturer or participant took part in 40 individual events, ranging from workshops, international conferences and festivals with themes reaching from international relations to education. Author of more than forty articles dealing with topics of politics, geopolitics, international relations and society, published by several portals in Serbia, United States, Russian Federation and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Translated sixty different texts dedicated to medieval Serbian cultural heritage in Bosnia and Herzegovina for association of history students “Dr. Milan Vasić” from Banja Luka. He has an excellent command of English with very basic knowledge of French, Chinese and Russian.

Currently lives and works in East Sarajevo.

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MagdaTam on June 10, 2021 · at 10:26 am EST/EDT

RE: Anonymous on June 07, 2021 · at 5:19 am EST/EDT

“But the American ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmermann, was openly calling for the dismemberment of Yugoslavia in 1992”

Spectators often ponder what is, whilst practitioners ponder why is?

“http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/nothing.htm”

“Keep believing what you want.”

The “Emperor” does not always keep believing that he/she is the “Emperor”.

Mr. Rove thought a moderation of this should be broadcast to the “troops” – you can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are ones you should concentrate on; refers.

However Mr. Rove attempted to use an assertion of positive thinking to finesse/obfuscate what others not being fooled were thinking/planning/doing – which returns focus to why is, whilst alluding to some of the components of why is within the following context:

“From 1989 onwards there were divisions in both the EU and NATO in respect of German re-unification which were in part deflected by notions including:

German re-unification would be a major project which would require most of the concentration of the German authorities for at least 10 years during which arrangements could be made in both the EU and NATO to “contain” re-unified Germany.

The distribution of this information was not restricted to the membership of the 1990 version of the EU.

In conjunction with documents from the “United Kingdom” and “The United States of America” in respect of future “independences” of the “Soviet bloc” predicated upon showing sensitivity in regard to Mr. Gorbachev and his associates’ activities, the information was sent diplomatically to the USSR including to the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, and to other members of the “Soviet bloc”- the usage of photo-copiers not being restricted to Mr. Mitrokhin.”

[ Although many might not agree/believe, major factions within the “Lithuanian Freedom movement”s held notions of “All Russians are bastards” which had a factual basis from their own experience to interpret, hence the “elevation” of a piano player whose “strategic” rhetoric and practice tended to be predicated on “stubborness clothed as resolve” and largely revolved around mantra that the Russians will invade any moment and so the Parliament in Vilnius needed to be sandbagged and under armed protection at all times.

Even with the best interpretation such attitudes could be held not to be in conformance with “documents from the “United Kingdom” and “The United States of America” in respect of future “independences” of the “Soviet bloc” predicated upon showing sensitivity in regard to Mr. Gorbachev and his associates’ activities”, on the contrary interpretations suggested that the Lithuanians were ill advisedly believing that their “freedom” was real, thereby facilitating challenges to the “Emperorness” of the “Emperor” – Emperorness being a fiat dependent on the beliefs of others; akin to reserve currency.

Amongst advisors suggesting how Lithuanian “freedom” could become more real, were “financial experts” from Sweden whose entree was not wholly based on the proximity of Sweden and Lithuania, but also based on partly misguided notions of Swedish rigour, open-handedness and honesty, .

This re-orientation toward “the economic” and the replacement of Mr. Landsbergis and some of his associates by Mr. Brazauskas and his associates in May 1993 calmed the “Emperor” in respect to challenge to her/his “Emperorness ” whilst presenting the “Emperor” with another sceptre by which “leverage” could be coerced.

As the saying goes – time and tide wait for no man or even women – and the conjuring of black into white in 1992/93 was extended to include various developing opportunities for “The Baltic States” which in conjunction with developments in Austria and Germany partly encouraged the ridiculously named “United Kingdom” to pursue “Brexit” “in the fulness of time” ]

However as is the wont of Emperors whose satisfaction is temporary, although better than that apparently that achieved by Messrs Jagger and Richards, when one problem appears “solved” another one appeared apparently “unexpected”, although it had been in gestation for longer than even nine months:

The “unexpected of the day” was the attempted encouraged colour revolution in Russia where some sought to intervene uninvited by taking Mr. Gorbachov prisoner thereby reprising the great man in history illusion and annoying the narod even further, causing disquiet with the “Emperor” sufficient to facilitate a reflex response in desperation – of trying to recruit Mr. Yeltsin and others without proper pre evaluation of hoped for “assets”, in contexts where everyone is for sale is a projected hope rather than the cultural norm of hoped for “assets”.

Others meanwhile quietly continued the ongoing lateral process of transcendence of the “Soviet Union” by initially the CIS and subsequently the Russian Federation.

MagdaTam on June 08, 2021 · at 7:09 am EST/EDT

Outlines thumbnails of the “Emperor demystification transgressions” of primarily Austria and Germany with lesser emphasis on the Dutch “Emperor demystification transgressions”.

Although not widely evangelised in public, developing the riverine systems from Rotterdam to Constanta and the hinterland in times of climate change facilitates redirecting logistics via the Black Sea and the Mediterrean Sea into a safer environment with the added advantage of defining where is “West” – this being one consideration in the breakup of Yugoslavia but not the only one.

Nationalism is a derivative of “exceptionalism” and exceptionalists tend to assign greater significances to themselves that others do not assign to them.

Consequently it is difficult for many to perceive that in coercive social relationships their roles are restricted to being food sources, human shields and sources of contempt for “Emperors”.

Hence the Russian Federation and its associates are not stupid enough to wish to be “Emperors” but wise enough to secure the complicity of think they are “Emperors” in their own transcendence.

“From 1989 onwards there were divisions in both the EU and NATO in respect of German re-unification which were in part deflected by notions ……. ”

In respect of many of these notions, they are no longer being deflected to the same extent, whilst divisions are increasing.

87 Comments

Жељко on June 05, 2021 · at 7:03 pm EST/EDT

Хвала Љубиша! (Thank you Ljubisa). Long overdue text on one of the most influential fake naratives of the 20th century. How many people died, around the world, for the western power elite actions based on this fake narative? Worse, how many well meaning people believed in it, withot question and despite the fact that it was concocted by the agressor. I hope now that ther will more questions and ultimately more answeres coming. Thank you again Ljubisa for a well written text and you courage for remaining in Sarajevo. Thank you Saker for giving a platform to such a brilliant man.
- Leo on June 06, 2021 · at 1:27 am EST/EDT
  
  Жељко
  I would like to draw readers attention to the following two Internet links, which pertain to articles written by the well known American analyst Stephen Lendman:
  
  https://stephenlendman.org/2016/03/radovan-karadzics-sham-trial-and/
  
  https://stephenlendman.org/2017/11/ratko-mladics-sham-trial-conviction/
  
  The articles describe the events in Srebrenica. In fact, there was no “genocide” in Srebrenica. The name of the town is in fact Serbian, and it means ‘Silver Town’. During the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the town held a Muslim garrison under the command of war criminal Naser Orić, whose forces went on a rampage, destroying 144 Serbian villages and killing 3.400 Serbian men, women and children. That is genocide. The Muslim and Serbian forces were, officially, separated by a Dutch contingent of the UN. However, the Dutch commander turned a blind eye, permitting Muslim forces to commit atrocities.
  
  When Serbian forces took the town in 1995, not a single Muslim woman or child was killed. They were in fact provided with food, water and transport. The given number of 8.000 executed Muslim men is both laughable and absurd. What the Muslim Government in Sarajevo did after the war was to have Muslim troops killed in combat, as well as Serbian troops killed in combat, exhumed and moved to Srebrenica, creating the impression that they were all Muslims and executed by the Serbian side. It is even suspected that Serbian women butchered by the Muslim garrison were also exhumed and moved to Srebrenica. The article is correct when it states that Muslim men executed” in Srebrenica found their names on voter lists. When that monument in Srebrenica was built, the Serbian side made a survey of all the names, discovering names of people who either never existed, or who were very much alive.
  
  Srebrenica is not only a gigantic piece of fraud, it is also a gigantic propaganda stunt. The aim was to vilify the Orthodox Serbs, traditional Russian allies.
  
  Finally, I personally think that the time has come for Russia and China to instigate the creation of an International Court of Sovereign States, which would act as a balance to the two courts we have in the Hague, and which are not only biased, but are nothing more than Western political instruments. Perhaps a new Judges Trial should be introduced, of the type we had in Nuremberg after the Second World War, when Nazi judges were tried. The judges from the Hague, as well as prosecutors, would then have to explain what exactly they did in the Hague.
  - Жељко on June 06, 2021 · at 4:00 am EST/EDT
    
    Thank you Leo. I was hoping that people like you would come out and provide more details about this horific lie.
    - Leo on June 06, 2021 · at 1:31 pm EST/EDT
      
      Жељко
      My pleasure. The mentioned two articles by Stephen Lendman should be disseminated to all the pertinent institutions. Поздрав.
  - White Whale on June 06, 2021 · at 7:36 am EST/EDT
    
    Nuremberg Trials
    Hmmm. That’s another deep rabbit hole to explore.
    Once you have, I doubt you’ll be advocating for a rerun.
  - Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 9:56 am EST/EDT
    
    Leo, thanks for the provided articles, I will have to read them the first chance I get.
- Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 9:54 am EST/EDT
  
  Нема на чему Жељко. I am glad you liked that text and found it interesting.
Samira on June 05, 2021 · at 7:42 pm EST/EDT

The so called “massacre” of Srebrenica has been proven a hoax. People who still propagate this lie should be convicted for hate speech.
Andreas on June 05, 2021 · at 8:00 pm EST/EDT

Having won in China, Stalin almost simultaneously lost in Yugoslavia. At the end of 1949, American aid began to flow there. In the spring of 1951, Belgrade had already formally signed an agreement with Washington for military assistance. Yugoslavia was becoming an anti-Soviet state and a “partner” of the United States in Europe. The symbol of all this strange and very instructive history was Josip Broz Tito’s visit to an American aircraft carrier. The fighter for independence, the hero of resistance to Hitler and Mussolini simply surrendered all his conquests to Washington, getting for it several decades of relatively quiet and well-fed life. Until the very same Anglo-Saxons decided to tear Yugoslavia apart in the 1990s.
But Tito did not see that coming. Neither did Stalin see any improvement in Soviet-Yugoslav relations. Their warming began under Khrushchev. While those communists who remained loyal to the USSR and Stalin in Yugoslavia were repressed beginning in 1948, and were called “informers”. A total of 12,000 people suffered, most of whom ended up in a special concentration camp on Goli Otok (Empty or Naked Island). A separate camp, Sveti Grgur, was set up for women.

N.V.Starikov Stalin. After war. Book 2 Years 1949-1953
observer on June 05, 2021 · at 8:28 pm EST/EDT

Fantastic article! I have told people for 25 years that the whole propaganda against Serbia since the 1990s and Russia throughout my lifetime is all a lie. I feel I am living in a strange warped culture where truth doesn’t get a chance to be heard much less believed. I have always insisted on the sheer evil of those such as that PR firm (Hill-Knowlton) that was paid large amounts of money to create and disseminate absolute lies against Serbia, such as 10,000 (100,000?) people supposedly being massacred at the soccer stadium or dumped into the Trepca mines, all proven false after the propaganda work was done..
Vigilius on June 05, 2021 · at 9:07 pm EST/EDT

Srebrenica is one of Modern Big Lies made by the West Powers – Deception so professionally
crafted that need years to fight , even it is pretty obvious that is not true .
Like 9/11 . So fight on !
White Whale on June 05, 2021 · at 10:56 pm EST/EDT

With the same analysis, one may courageously begin to unpick and question the number of 6 million ascribed to events alledged within a war a half century prior.
A reminder. The number claimed was originally 11 million, 6 of one tribe, 5 “others”.
But the claim for the 5 has long been erased.
Srebrenica is recycling a template well worn from history.
Mario Medjeral on June 06, 2021 · at 12:51 am EST/EDT

Dobar dan.
The war against Yugoslavia was the test ground for a row of fabricated wars, then came Irak, Libya, Syria and so on.
Genocide, weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons and whatelse was utilized to break international law and justify their alleged ‘humanitarian driven’ wars, which did not exclude massive historical bombing of civilians in Yugoslavia and the other countries they attacked.
Truth does not exist anymore, it gets fabricated by a media matrix to serve their wars only.
Dissenters are enemies and they will be targeted, with whatever crimes Washington/London fabricate, It started with Serbs, today we have Russians and Chinese.
Today is the ‘Chinese virus’, but hiding that the UK and the US own hundreds of bio weapon labs around the world, China been targeted for decades with bird flu, SARS, swine flu and God knows whatelse.
History writing is always subject to revision of real factual truths.
Dr. NG Maroudas on June 06, 2021 · at 1:05 am EST/EDT

What the author says about slave ownership and its respectability throughout history is interesting. The words of Bantu slave owners put a human face on that natural feeling of pride in being owners rather than slaves. Homer says that “Zeus takes away the better part of a man on that evil day when he is made a slave”.

But what he says about our disgusting propaganda onslaught against Serbia is what I have been saying for the past 30 years. When we began bombing Belgrade, dropping more bombs than Hitler had, I “flipped” psychologically because I felt obscurely that something was going deeply wrong with the very concept of our European Union. Every subsequent event which the author describes — and more — attest to moral decline, not only of Western Europe but of “the West” generally (which includes Israel in the Middle East, and Australia in the Far East).
- Leo on June 06, 2021 · at 2:04 am EST/EDT
  
  Dr. NG Maroudas
  The EU is nothing more than a civilian component of NATO, as EU countries are also NATO members. Who overthrew Yanukovich in Kiev in 2014 ? Answer: NATO and EU countries, backed by Israel.
- MagdaTam on June 06, 2021 · at 3:37 am EST/EDT
  
  RE : Dr. NG Maroudas on June 06, 2021 · at 1:05 am EST/EDT
  
  “But what he says about our disgusting propaganda onslaught against Serbia is what I have been saying for the past 30 years.
  
  When we began bombing Belgrade, dropping more bombs than Hitler had, I “flipped” psychologically because I felt obscurely that something was going deeply wrong with the very concept of our European Union.”
  
  From circa 1993 onwards, in emulation of the relationship between Mr. Bismarck and Mr. Bleichroder in the 1860’s to the 1880’s, Austrian and German “interests” sought opportunities derived from the “defeat of the Soviet bloc/End of History” to re-invigorate to some degree their previous “spheres of influence” throughout Danubia.
  
  A significant component of attempting to benefit from some opportunities was the largely Austrian/German projects of developing the Danube and its hinterland from Regensburg to the Danube Delta with the adjunct of the canal between Cerna Voda and the Black Sea/Constanta.
  
  However some opponents were of the view that benefits should always largely accrue to them and hence “NATO” bombed Serbia including the Danube, thereby delaying/frustrating opportunities of others to derive benefits.
  
  In modulated form, primarily through focusing investment to tourist developments including but not restricted to pathways in the Ruse region, the project has been continued with wider participation by “The European Union”.
  
  Serbia was not the only target of NATO bombing in 1999/2000, it was also “pour encourager les autres.”
  - MagdaTam on June 06, 2021 · at 4:32 am EST/EDT
    
    RE: MagdaTam on June 06, 2021 · at 3:37 am EST/EDT
    
    “Serbia was not the only target of NATO bombing in 1999/2000, it was also “pour encourager les autres.”
    
    A shorter version of addition for some.
    
    Although the encouragement of those of lesser complicity sitting on the Maas was rendered in different forms including but not limited to “the Srebrenica narrative” and paradoxes of airplanes not reaching their destinations in emulation of previous Korean “waverings”.
    
    Journeys can prove hazardous including in respect of blowbacks.
- MagdaTam on June 06, 2021 · at 4:24 am EST/EDT
  
  RE : Dr. NG Maroudas on June 06, 2021 · at 1:05 am EST/EDT
  
  “But what he says about our disgusting propaganda onslaught against Serbia is what I have been saying for the past 30 years.
  
  When we began bombing Belgrade, dropping more bombs than Hitler had, I “flipped” psychologically because I felt obscurely that something was going deeply wrong with the very concept of our European Union.”
  
  From circa 1993 onwards, in emulation of the relationship between Mr. Bismarck and Mr. Bleichroder in the 1860’s to the 1880’s, Austrian and German “interests” sought opportunities derived from the “defeat of the Soviet bloc/End of History” to re-invigorate to some degree their previous “spheres of influence” throughout Danubia.
  
  A significant component of attempting to benefit from some opportunities was the largely Austrian/German projects of developing the Danube and its hinterland from Regensburg to the Danube Delta with the adjunct of the canal between Cerna Voda and the Black Sea/Constanta.
  
  However some opponents were of the view that benefits should always largely accrue to them and hence “NATO” bombed Serbia including the Danube, thereby delaying/frustrating opportunities of others to derive benefits.
  
  In modulated form, primarily through focusing investment to tourist developments including but not restricted to pathways in the Ruse region, the project has been continued with wider participation by “The European Union”.
  
  Serbia was not the only target of NATO bombing in 1999/2000, it was also “pour encourager les autres.”
  
  Although the encouragement of those of lesser complicity sitting on the Maas was rendered in different form including but not limited to “the Srebrenica narrative” and paradoxes of airplanes not reaching their destinations, in emulation of previous Korean “waverings”.
Nussiminen on June 06, 2021 · at 4:43 am EST/EDT

Incredibly well-written article — kudos to the author. The Serbs were the first European people outside Russia who fell victim to the destruction of the USSR and Socialist Eastern Europe. It goes without saying that NATO’s onslaught in 1999 was planned long in advance — what stands out is the fact that, up to then, NATO hadn’t sanctioned any collective bombing campaigns anywhere. It took the break-up of the USSR and the dismantling of the Warsaw Pact to unleash the bloodlusts of Western imperialism also upon European peoples.

An outburst of genuine Schadenfreude on my part due to this passage in the article:

Two Islamists from Bosnia and Herzegovina later took part in the attack upon the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 closing a deadly circle where United States trained and equipped the same individuals who later killed around 3.000 American citizens.

Verdict: The Serbs were avenged by two Islamist compatriots putting 3000 of the Serbs’ US tormentors to death serving in the very hubs of Western imperial power. If Madeleine Albright had been among them, it would have been truly Divine Justice. And we would be spared her ”literature” warning against fascism which she very much personifies, not just with regard to Serbia.
- Parabellum on June 13, 2021 · at 12:19 pm EST/EDT
  
  I stopped reading the article when that sentence came up, about two bosnian muslims being involved in 9/11. With all due respect to the writer, going by his accomplishments given at the end of the article, he should have known the truth about who did 9/11 and that it was a false flag operation. As far as I know, and I might be wrong, even the saker doesn’t believe in the official narrative.
  
  It’s like trying to dig the truth of one even while ignoring about other, ironically something the author accuses the mainstream of, in the same article.
  
  Since the citations are strong, so I don’t contest with what the writer has written about the conflict and the subsequent spin given by the media to the war, but I feel that serving a lie with truth is deception.
  
  I apologise if i said anything wrong.
F. Tuijn on June 06, 2021 · at 5:07 am EST/EDT

The day after Sebrenica fell my Dutch liberal newspaper NRC (www.nrc.nl) published an article that said that while the enclave was protected by the Dutch military terrorists operating from there had murdered between 1200 and 1500 Serbs living in the neighborhood and that the leader of them had been evacuated a few days before the fall.
The paper never mentioned these murders before or since.
- Corto on June 06, 2021 · at 8:48 am EST/EDT
  
  Yes. “De Groene Amsterdamer ” published in 1996 an excellent article “Deconstructie van een trauma” about Srebrenica . The best I saw in all of the western press in my opinion. (It is still on the line). It was a work of Rene Grenaux and Abe de Vries. They traveled to Srebrenica and surrounding to see for themselves. They gave whole picture of the events.
- MagdaTam on June 08, 2021 · at 7:09 am EST/EDT
  
  RE: F. Tuijn on June 06, 2021 · at 5:07 am EST/EDT
  
  “The paper never mentioned these murders before or since.”
  
  On further consideration that was deemed over-reach to be held in “reserve” as were/are aspects of activities of ABN/AMRO, Royal Dutch Shell, and NEI in Rotterdam.
  
  Hence the narratives were changed to the Dutch forgetting to put their fingers in dikes as security and running away – perhaps the genesis of cheese eating as an inhibitor of “virility”?
  
  “Although the encouragement of those of lesser complicity sitting on the Maas was rendered in different form including but not limited to “the Srebrenica narrative” and paradoxes of airplanes not reaching their destinations, in emulation of previous Korean “waverings”.
  
  From at least March 1943 when the British Empire reluctantly acknowledged its acceptance of the “rules of engagement”, the opponents’ offer was/is, do you want to be in my gang with varying degrees of coercion as developments allow, including in the Dutch variant but not restricted to the House of Orange including husbands, Indonesia, the “European Union, and comfortable seats in Davos and other locations. ?
  
  From 1989 onwards there were divisions in both the EU and NATO in respect of German re-unification which were in part deflected by notions including:
  
  German re-unification would be a major project which would require most of the concentration of the German authorities for at least 10 years during which arrangements could be made in both the EU and NATO to “contain” re-unified Germany.
  
  The distribution of this information was not restricted to the membership of the 1990 version of the EU.
  
  In conjunction with documents from the “United Kingdom” and “The United States of America” in respect of future “independences” of the “Soviet bloc” predicated upon showing sensitivity in regard to Mr. Gorbachev and his associates’ activities, the information was sent diplomatically to the USSR including to the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, and to other members of the “Soviet bloc”- the usage of photo-copiers not being restricted to Mr. Mitrokhin.
  
  From circa 1993 onwards, in emulation of the relationship between Mr. Bismarck and Mr. Bleichroder in the 1860’s to the 1880’s, Austrian and German “interests” sought opportunities derived from the “defeat of the Soviet bloc/End of History” to re-invigorate to some degree their previous “spheres of influence” throughout Danubia.
  
  A significant component of attempting to benefit from some opportunities was the largely Austrian/German projects of developing the Danube and its hinterland from Regensburg to the Danube Delta with the adjunct of the canal between Cerna Voda and the Black Sea/Constanta.
  
  Parallel “strategies” included but were not resticted to Austrian/German “encouragement” of political developments in Slovenia and Croatia, with more economic emphases in Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary.
  
  In aggregate these attempted “strategies” undermined the notion that “German re-unification would be a major project which would require most of the concentration of the German authorities for at least 10 years, during which arrangements could be made in both the EU and NATO to “contain” re-unified Germany.”
  
  Consequently “arrangements” were made primarily in NATO to increase the membership and purview of NATO which “informed” the initially discreet and the ongoing less discreet, lateral process of the transcendence of the “Soviet Union” by the CIS and subsequently the Russian Federation, and the velocity and achievement of re-unification of the Federal Republic of Germany.
  
  However some opponents were of the view that benefits should always largely accrue to them and hence “NATO” bombed Serbia including the Danube, thereby delaying/frustrating opportunities of others to derive benefits.
  
  However as is often their wont, some opponents forgot to consider – What is for afters ? – which facilitated “mission creep” rendering the opponents and their constructs as lands of opportunities.
Taki on June 06, 2021 · at 8:07 am EST/EDT

Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. Vladimir Putin himself and other Russian official are talking about Srebrenica in the same context like any Western media. They are repeating the very same narrative. I wonder, Putin and Co. were not capable of finding another and better example in order to send a message? With friends like this…Serbia doesn’t need enemies…

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-putin-idUSKBN1YE240

https://russiadaily.news/russia/3144-kremlin-russia-will-not-allow-another-srebrenica-in-the-donbass
SSA on June 06, 2021 · at 9:37 am EST/EDT

I find the hypocrisy of christian readers comments remarkable, deep in their hearts there is prejudice and racism against muslims, this can easily be assessed by the comments here, Not one is intelligent enough to ask the question that for the last plus 300 years Christians have been invading muslims lands, murdering innocent civilians, women and children, infirm old men for no reason other than stealing resources, greed, plunder, they are still doing it in Iraq, Syria, Israel, Afghanistan, Iran Pakistan.

Its just recently; last 25 odd years that these western criminals nations are beginning to realise that muslims wont cow down, but will retaliate, from 9/11 to European attacks and the bitter defeat of western thieves in other lands, things are about to heat up more; with Iran on the brink of becoming nuclear power, Pakistan already a nuclear power, where sanctions not only did not work but Pakistan accelerated its nuclear status and from thr day they become one, the western forces have shown cowardise by withdrawing but demonising muslims on fake bought out media.

Large Muslim nations are all joining up with Russia and China to put a full stop to this murderous civilisation called the west, the way events are unfolding around the world, things are going to happen very swiftly, the west is on its death bed they have no hope and they are of the mindset who will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons, they have already used them…..but the problem is that others and muslims also have nukes so its not going to be a one sided show; and that has frightened these cowardly western nations who are all gung-ho to attack smaller weak countries but are always reluctant to attack the strong, but now the equation has changed and read my lips; Israel will be the first one to vanish from the map.
- Corto on June 06, 2021 · at 10:44 am EST/EDT
  
  ” … for the last plus 300 years Christians have been invading muslims lands, murdering innocent civilians, women and children, infirm old men for no reason other than stealing resources, greed, plunder, they are still doing it in Iraq, Syria, Israel, Afghanistan, Iran Pakistan… ”
  
  True, European colonial powers and US later on, invaded your lands. You are rightly angry at them.
  
  But smaller European nations didn’t invade you. Balkan nations were victims of Muslim invasion…
  - Bosnian Croat on June 06, 2021 · at 11:23 am EST/EDT
    
    What are you talking about
    
    Europe was victim of Islamic invasions for centuries.
    
    And we in Balkan were under Ottoman occupation for more than 400 years.
    - Gerry on June 06, 2021 · at 1:06 pm EST/EDT
      
      @ Bosnian Croat
      
      I’d imagine that Ottoman occupation would have taken in the entire Balkans extending right up to the Austrian border if it weren’t for such minor things as the topography of the area north of Serbia.
      
      I mean some simple reading tells us the German Army for example ‘would characterize its operations in the Balkans as a series of river operations in mountainous terrain.’
      
      “In Macedonia, the dispersed Turkish forces had no chance to maneuver themselves into a single large army capable of defeating the Balkan allies on Turkish terms. Distance, difficult terrain, and overall lack of infrastructure contributed to their inability to consolidate. Second, the members of the Balkan League considered themselves threats to one another. All desired territorial expansion at Turkish expense, especially with
      
      “The mountains, rivers,and streams remain as daunting as they were eighty years ago. The mountainous terrain contains large deposits of limestone,especially in the western regions, where underground rivers run beneath the karst. During the First Balkan War, cross-country traffic was limited by a combination of the steep grade and the karst topography. Such terrain tends to keep all but light or mountain-trained infantry near or confined to the roads. As the Serbs and Turks discovered at Kumanovo, a single road may have to support the lines of communication, operations, and supply. The roads and rail systems have been improved since the First Balkan War. The main passenger rail connection (the “Orient Express”) between Paris, Munich, Vienna, and Constantinople runs through Belgrade and Sofia. However, the commercial traffic, especially semi-trailer trucks, still follow the Vardar river valley north from Salonika into the interior of Europe. The man-made features have neither significantly altered the terrain nor increased cross-country mobility.
      https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a284241.pdf
  - Gerry on June 06, 2021 · at 12:28 pm EST/EDT
    
    @ Corto
    
    I was floored and confused as to why when I visited Ptuj, Slovenia that just east of there is a region known as Jeruzalem, Slovenia and was informed that the Crusaders used that place as a staging area for going and returning soldiers from the Middle East. They loved the region due to the wine and food. It is why it was named Jeruzalem in remembrance of the other one which cost them so dearly.
    
    I get the sense it didn’t matter to the Moslem East about smaller countries just that it was a Christian Europe that was invading their lands. So is it then guilt by association regardless of the passing of centuries?
- Bosnian Croat on June 06, 2021 · at 11:31 am EST/EDT
  
  Muslim countries are victims of Western imperialism
  Bit it has nothing to do with Christianity
  - SSA on June 10, 2021 · at 3:33 pm EST/EDT
    
    Wrong my friends, what do you think the crusades was all about; don’t forget JW Bush Junior declared a crusades against muslims after 911. The christians have never been able to accept islams clear appeal to large swathes of humanity, already 2 billion and counting fast, there is an inherent hatred the christians feel towards muslims. For reasons unbeknownst to me, As it is muslims have done many favours to backward medevial europe, all modern sciences were taken by europeans from Islamic Spain; and had not muslims ruled Spain for 800 years the renaissance would have never taken place to awaken Europe.
- Жељко on June 06, 2021 · at 6:50 pm EST/EDT
  
  SSA
  
  You display a distinct lack of understanding and knowledge of Christianity as well as history. Orthodox Christians suffered enormously form Western Christian hands. The true genocide of Serbian people by Croatian Catholic crazies under the watchful eyes of Pope and Hitler and spearheaded by Franciscans is just but one example. Why is it that you don’t know anything about this? Did you know that Himmler was quite fond of Islam? Would you like to know why? And who is it, which is saving Syrian people at present from a complete wipe out by islamic crazies with their western handlers? Russian Orthodox Christians! How is that for Christian charity?
  - Slavko on June 07, 2021 · at 5:19 pm EST/EDT
    
    Some will probably not like what is written here but it has to be said…
    
    Unfortunately, yes SSA but alas not so much as at the hands of Moslems. The loss of Hagia Sofia and so much more but what bothers me is why is there even a Moslem faith in the south of Yugoslavia or for that matter Albania to begin with. If one looks back at the beginnings of Christianity these places were evangelized for Christ long before Muhammand ever came along. Greece and Rome were all Christianized due to the blood, sweat and tears of our saints and martyrs. Then unfortunately along came the Crusades and then the Ottoman Empire. I find it very difficult to believe that anyone living in these Christian lands would ever have accepted the Moslem faith as a result of their own choice and will. More likely than not they were forced against their will conversation to the Moslem faith at the point of a spear or bullitt no less. Under the Turks Id say especially so! So doesn’t that then bring us to a very difficult issue about the faith of our forefathers.
    
    Lastly, if i didn’t get the shock of my life when I met here in Canada, an expat Serbian and we worked together for a short time. When I learned his name I couldn’t believe what I was hearing because a friend I have from work has the exact same name the only difference is the Serbians first name is my Croatians friend last name. Spelling and pronunciation is exactly the same.
    
    How pray tell does something like that happen and for me the answer is quite simple. One need only go here to read the comment by Robert Shule and the guy before him Gerry /peace-in-the-middle-east-is-a-prerequisite-for-global-peace/#comment-943437
    - Slavko on June 07, 2021 · at 6:11 pm EST/EDT
      
      @ SSA
      
      I might add to as for your Croatian Catholic crazies the alarm that must have been felt in places like the Vatican of a foreign faith entering in the European continent would not have been received easily. What we see today with diversity and such is dangerous irresponsible business and nonsense. I don’t and never will understand how anyone could possibly think that one can mix peoples of different faiths and cultures and think that will work. Impossible Id say.
      
      I could go on and on about all of this suffice to ask a very important question which again bothers me to no end and that is where are all the religious leaders. Everything I see and read about Bosnia and all its enclaves and not one from the very people who are its spiritual leaders. Who was Milosevicès pastor priest for example. These are the people who can shed light on all the goings on whether Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant or what have you really.
      
      Where are they!!!
      - Slavko on June 08, 2021 · at 6:25 pm EST/EDT
        
        After spending a considerable amount of time scouring sources and what does one find? The testimony of Karadzic_Interview_06142020_Public.pdf
        
        by none other than Andy Wilcoxson:
        
        http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg_ki061420.html:
        
        “There was nothing like that in the Yugoslav, nor Bosnian crisis. In addition to that, all of our opponents in this crisis didn’t differ racially from us a bit. As a matter of fact, almost entire Muslim community previously belonged to the Serbs, but converted to Islam, mainly unwillingly and forcefully, during the long Ottoman occupation. Many of Croats also had been Serbs of Catholic religion, but after the Austro-Hungarian occupation, after the Berlin Congress in 1878, had declared the Croatian affiliation. (A Russian Emperor’s diplomat Alexander Giljferding wrote a book about it in 19th century.”
        
        So I am right in my suspicions! They were forced to convert away from their savior for whom He died. This is a great sin against both the person, his people especially their forefathers and mothers and against God!
        
        Every Christian who reads this here will understand the grave seriousness and consequences of this! These people needed to return to the Church of Christ. They are our children not Muhammands!
        
        No forced conversion against ones will is a valid one.
        
        I can’t imagine what they suffered at the hands of the Ottoman’s and why i realize more and more the animosity between Greeks and Turks. The bitterness is long and hard.
        
        Slavko on June 09, 2021 · at 7:54 pm EST/EDT
        
        I can’t help wondering and here asking a serious question if the straw that broke the camels back for war was the arrival of foreign Mercenaries, al quaida, literally, into that conflagration?
        
        Further to this I remember hearing the testimony and reports of some that when outside Moslems came into those communities to help their “brothers sic?” they were confronted by a people who weren’t really living the Moslem life. Their religious life was so secular that they found these people eating pork which is a stable of the Balkan people all the way to the border of Austria in fact. Their clothing and religious life and practices were hardly what they should have been for one of Moslem faith. Then if that wasn’t enough these same outsiders then did what is occurring throughout all of the former Yugoslavia marriage into the indigenous population. These outsiders married these peoples daughters.
        
        I can see very well how these things would have only exacerbated already simmering fears and hatreds and would not have come or been easily accepted by many. Ultimately though the arrival of well armed foreign mercenaries would have lit the fuse. Now am I right to think and believe this way I’m not 100% sure and is for those of you who are the experts to answer really but I have my suspicions?
        
        Beyond any of this though the answer to what I wrote above about forced conversion lies in the one place few people would ever think it to be found. With the communists if you can believe it and their re-education camps.
        
        In a Christian re-education camp yes? If only our children knew the truth, the real truth what could have been prevented? What we really need as well is for sure some reconciliation —The Ministry of Reconciliation— but forgiveness and mercy doesn’t come easily now does it with some many warning about nuclear war?
        
        As usual if history teaches us anything it teaches us nothing we go on making the same mistakes. And I guess for those of us who read Romanoff can our history books even be trusted?
        
        Jesus please help us we need you more than any politician who due to their ignorance and stupidity are more dangerous than ever really!
  - SSA on June 08, 2021 · at 12:56 pm EST/EDT
    
    Not only am I fully aware of what you said in your comments; but I will go further to say that in the Quran there is a clear mention of real christians as good people, not the fake protestant bible editing hoards of western christian version.
    
    The Quran states:
    
    “Chapter 5. Verse 82.” You will most certainly find that, of the people (of unbelief), the most violent in enmity toward (the Muslims) are the Jews and those who associate partners with God. (Calling prophet Jesus son of god)
    
    And you will most certainly find that the nearest of them in affection to the believers (the Muslims) are those who say: “We are Christians. ” This is because there are among them (the Christians) hermits (who devote themselves to worshipping God, especially at night) and monks (who struggle with their carnal selves, ever fearful of God’s punishment), and because they are not arrogant. So a learned muslims feels a brotherhood with the real orthodox Russia church of eastern Christianity.
    
    Salam Aly Kum (Peace be with you)
    But that is not the issue: despite the fact that western christian fanatics slaughtered you the followers eastern orthodox christians; but when the chips are down your hatred of muslims overwhelm you and you still side with western murderers and plunderers and criminals. Be very careful when you talk to knowledgeable muslims. That as it may be; the end times sequence of battles and wars is at hand, and our blessed prophet Mohammad (PBUH) told us that in these battles to come the muslims and the eastern orthodox christians will be allies against the jews and their zionist loving thieves of the west.
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    Please get back on topic. Off-topic subject matter should be taken up in the Moveable Feast Cafe. Any further off-topic discussion will not pass moderation. –The Moderator.
- Parabellum on June 13, 2021 · at 11:29 am EST/EDT
  
  “Not one is intelligent enough to ask the question that for the last plus 300 years Christians have been invading muslims lands, murdering innocent civilians, women and children, infirm old men”
  
  You are clubbing the western liberal judeo-christian civilization with the eastern orthodox christian civilization, which is wrong. As wrong as clubbing takfiris and muslims together. It is true that the western civilization invaded and destroyed many muslim states, but painting them all as christians is a fallacy.The British empire was a secular one. The argument of religiously motivated hatred can also be made by the orthodox christians against the ottoman empire, which had Islam has it’s religion. The western civilization is to the core a militant liberal one now.
  
  “with Iran on the brink of becoming nuclear power, Pakistan already a nuclear power, where sanctions not only did not work but Pakistan accelerated its nuclear status”
  Pakistan’s situation isn’t good economically (although the recent economic growth is positive), socially and on various other parameters. Sure, Pakistan has grown militarywise and has deep collaboration with the Chinese to take on India (it’s biggest threat), but the situation isnt good for pakistan. Iran is already buckled under the sanctions.
  
  “Large Muslim nations are all joining up with Russia and China”
  The gulf sheikhdoms are still allies with the west, they are not in the Chinese or Russian side. If you dont know, they were propped up by the west and opposing the west means loosing power. The royals of the gulf (last time I checked, they were all still sheikhs and not rabbis) are busy making diplomatic ties with the Zionist state and inaugurating holocaust memorials. Didnt Saudi favour India recently over Pakistan? Why do rich muslim arab states invest in India, given it’s abysmal track record agaisnt kashmiri muslims, and not invest in Pakistan.
  
  “but the problem is that others and muslims also have nukes so its not going to be a one sided show; and that has frightened these cowardly western nations”
  As for the nukes, they have grown conventional in the rapidly changing war arena and the latest toys are cyber+electromagnetic+AI domain. No military superpower (USA, China and Russia) is going to fight the battlefield in the domain in which you specialize. Take the recent example of China and India border clashes, nukes couldnt help India against China. Chinese pushed Indians behind the 1959 Chinese claim line.
Bosnian Croat on June 06, 2021 · at 10:57 am EST/EDT

Srebrenica was not a genocide because children, women and very old people were not killed.
But it was terrible war crime.All boys and men from 16 years old to 60 were executed.
It is mystery what is behind that. General Ratko Mladic did not order that crime and none of local commanders wanted to take part in that.
Generals Beara and Krstic did that but who ordered them to do that is mystery. They took that secret with themselves into the grave
People who were under their command killing Muslims know almost nothing. They just did what they were told and nothing else.
Those two generals are not alive any more and never said anything to anyone about what happened in Srebrenica.
Srebrenica will forever be trauma and reconciliation between Serbs and Bosnian Muslims is almost impossible …unfortunately.
- Serbian girl on June 06, 2021 · at 12:47 pm EST/EDT
  
  It doesn’t matter if it’s just the men of an ethnic group and not the women or children etc.
  
  It becomes genocide once it reaches a certain number. It is a question if scale.
  
  This is why the 8000 number is so important to those who want to call it genocide.
- Marko Original on June 06, 2021 · at 1:44 pm EST/EDT
  
  “ All boys and men from 16 years old to 60 were executed.”
  
  Simply not true. There are thousands of them now living in St Louis, USA, Liverpool council in Sydney NSW or Brisbane QLD Australia. On the other hand CNN falsely reported Serb victims massacred by Naser Oric and his Wahhabi crazies as Muslim victims to fit the narrative. Bosnia was the first CIA playground where they released their Islamic Nazis of ISIL.
Jim Miles on June 06, 2021 · at 11:53 am EST/EDT

Of all the comments so far only one mentions the author’s diversion into George Floyd and his history. I gave up reading there as it is a poor tangential argument, essentially creating his own red-herring. As far as the history of Srebrenica is concerned, I have never believed the MSM storyline as there is too much alternate information available to keep it credible. Maybe I’ll go back and read sometime later and just avoid the George Floyd material.
- Elten on June 06, 2021 · at 3:04 pm EST/EDT
  
  I stopped there too. George Floyd was too much of a diversion of the author’s argument. Even while I agree that the hoax is evident.
- Жељко on June 06, 2021 · at 7:33 pm EST/EDT
  
  Jim
  
  Fair point. Although I don’t think Ljubisa is denying that there was a crime committed by the way of intentional or unintentional murder of George Floyd. I think he is saying, justifiably, that this crime has been exploited by some forces in the society to accuse the entire white population of America as being racist and genocidal and that the only way for them to repent is to self-destruct. The same modus operandi has been used against Serbian people. They are all guilty of genocide, even though the lesser crime in question is actually doubtful. This is all done intentionally to create divisions in the society and conditions for a control of a group, nation or an entire geographical area. Typical neo-liberal or/and colonial playbook. Brits are masters of it (Rhodes, Milner). It is of no consequence to them that it is the Serbs who stood shoulder to shoulder with them in both world wars. Churchill repaid Serbs with the support for communist Tito. (The reason: save Catholic church and European “values” at the expense of Serbian unity, deny Orthodox Christianity legitimacy and potential moral victory.) Tony Blair repaid Serbs with bombs and accusations of possessing a genociadal DNA, which can only be resolved by their shame and destruction. Will it? I hope not.
  - Jim Miles on June 07, 2021 · at 11:06 am EST/EDT
    
    Thanks, your explanation makes more sense; unfortunately it is not clearly lain out that way in the article.
    - Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 10:26 am EST/EDT
      
      @ Жељко thank you for stepping in. You said everything which I wanted to explain so there is not need to expand any further.
      
      @Jim Miles
      I used George Floyd case simply as an example of how MSM captured one moment and then built an entire narrative around it completely disregarding everything else.
      My intent seemed clear enough to me, but I understand if others might understood it differently. Жељко explained it in short but clear manner.
Serbian girl on June 06, 2021 · at 12:25 pm EST/EDT

A well-researched article. I personally would have avoided parallels with George Floyd/ BLM/ slavery / white guilt. There is no need, as Srebrenica can be examined and refuted on its own.

It’s a pity for the real victims there. They exist, they are now mixed up with the fakery, and are used by unscrupulous war criminals to peddle “humanitarian” war…hopefully one day they can be honoured, in truth and reconciliation… If not, the risk is that that they are repudiated along with the fiction that surrounds them.

While the empire has nominated an obscure Bosnian filmmaker (Jasmila Zbanic) at the Oscars & Baftas for a movie about the Srebrenica, a Bosnian Serbs association has hit back:

The “Eastern Alternative for Republika Srpska” are lobbying the municipality of Srebrenica to change the name of the main street from “Marshall Tito” to “Peter Handke” the Austrian Nobel laureate, who has been very outspoken about the Srebrenica myth.

https://www.rferl.org/a/bosnia-srebrenica-handke-street-name–serbia-controversial-initiative/31266375.html

Pavlovic, the leader of this citizens association has said that even if the initiative is rejected he will personally finance the signs with Peter Handke’s name.
- South African on June 06, 2021 · at 2:54 pm EST/EDT
  
  Hello Serbian Girl,
  
  I agree with you fully that political events can be evaluated and refuted factually and truthfully by uncovering and studying the facts of history – it takes time and effort and a search for the real truth in every situation, but it yields the necessary results.
  
  That said, I feel that there is great value in the comparisons made with white guilt and slavery (and I have to say this was one of the finest explanations of how that particular psychological mechanism works) in how certain events and subjects can be re-framed to absolve one party more or less completely and by making the other party fully guilty.
  
  Leaving that analogy aside, this was one of the most informative articles I have read about Srebrenica and I have to thank the writer for bringing this important missing context to our attention.
  - Serbian girl on June 06, 2021 · at 4:47 pm EST/EDT
    
    Hi South African,
    
    Of course you are right about how events have been reframed, especially regarding media stereotypes, but I felt that the discussion of all these topics at once diluted from the central topic about Srebrenica.
    
    In any case, the myth of Srebrenica is going to get the Silver Bullet. (Isn’t it strange: “srebro” means silver in Serbian, and Srebrenica means “Silver Town”…) Once the first domino falls the rest will follow…
    
    Here is a quote from JF Kennedy: “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie–deliberate, contrived and dishonest–but the myth–persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.”
  - Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 10:47 am EST/EDT
    
    Thank you for the compliments South African, I appreciate you reading the article.
- Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 10:43 am EST/EDT
  
  “It’s a pity for the real victims there. They exist, they are now mixed up with the fakery, and are used by unscrupulous war criminals to peddle “humanitarian” war…hopefully one day they can be honoured, in truth and reconciliation… If not, the risk is that that they are repudiated along with the fiction that surrounds them.”
  
  I agree with you Serbian girl, there is no doubt crimes happened in Srebrenica on both sides during the entire war. From my perspective Srebrenica seems to be purposefully designed to forever stand between Serbs and Bosnian Muslims (who are I believe Serbs that accepted Islam) as object of contention. If there was a real intent to heal the wounds of the war, memorial in Potocari would be a burial site for innocent victims of both sides who died in Srebrenica, with a monument clearly stating crimes were committed by people from both sides.
  
  Instead, we have an example where the director of the memorial center for “genocide” in Potocari, I kid you not, exhumed the body of his own father, who died in 1992, as a soldier, in another part of BiH, and reburied him in Srebrenica, apparently as a victim of “genocide”. Without any wish to appear cruel, but this is becoming hilariously ridiculous. Too bad there is no article of this in English, but here you have it in Serbian:
  
  https://vidovdan.org/slika-dana/direktor-memorijalnog-centra-srebrenice-svoga-oca-sahranio-kao-zrtvu-genocida-a-on-preminuo-92/
Marko Original on June 06, 2021 · at 1:46 pm EST/EDT

Thank you for this informative article which connects many dots
- Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 10:49 am EST/EDT
  
  Glad you liked it Marko. All the best.
miran on June 06, 2021 · at 1:46 pm EST/EDT

There are some people that relay think it was a crime and use it an example. Guess who?
https://stanjestvari.com/2019/12/11/vladimir-putin-u-donbasu-se-moze-desiti-druga-srebrenica/?unapproved=70614&moderation-hash=1b6112d0ae5f43dddcbea26a4b1cfaf6#comment-70614
GoverntheMente on June 06, 2021 · at 2:43 pm EST/EDT

“Two Islamists from Bosnia and Herzegovina later took part in the attack upon the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001”

Debunking one lie of the western empire while casually confirming one of their other lies….
- Elten on June 06, 2021 · at 3:14 pm EST/EDT
  
  I noticed that too. A most contradictory way of debunking one narrative and promoting another narrative which both come from the same source. The Floyd and 911 narrative are part of the same package, apparently one that is embraced by the author while he is debunking the other narrative on Srebrenica. It looks like a love-hate relationship with Uncle …whatever you call him.
AndyT on June 06, 2021 · at 3:42 pm EST/EDT

a great read, but with one fundamental flaw – the author has let his right wing ideology blind him to the incontrovertible fact that there are no “leftists” in america. the author appears to be confusing “conservative liberalism”, the ideology of capitalism, with the concept of social democracy. the whole concept of democratic socialism is so anathema to the american mind that their “leftist” politicians are, at best, centre right.
nietzsche1510 on June 06, 2021 · at 3:46 pm EST/EDT

Madeleine Albright: “I was not aware of my Jewish ancestry until I became Secretary”. Really? What we are aware of “is the place waiting for her in the eternal flames of the Divine hell”.
- Verami on June 06, 2021 · at 5:52 pm EST/EDT
  
  Yes, it’s true. She only found out about her Jewish ancestry while flicking through the Washington Post over a coffee one morning in 1997. Her father a Czech diplomat, and her mother were both born mute apparently and never discussed it ( or anything else for that matter ).
  - Serbian girl on June 06, 2021 · at 7:42 pm EST/EDT
    
    Lol!
    Her whole family story is murky…
    
    Her parents were Czech Jews who received asylum due to their Judaism in London during WWII. After a few years in London, they converted to Catholicism and moved back to Czechia as Catholics.
    
    Josef Korbel became a press attachee to the Czech embassy in Belgrade. Then in 1948 he received a teaching scholarship in the US from the Rockefeller Foundation for deposed jewish scholars (?) (Although it is unclear it he received this scholarship based on his Judaism or his anti- communism.).
    
    Here is an old photo of Josef Korbel and Josip Broz Tito:
    
    https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/details-photo/josef-korbel-with-josip-broz-tito-then-head-of-the-yugoslav-federal-people-s-republic-korbel-who-had-been-a-close-aide-to-czchoslovak-foreign-minister-jan/UIG-975-05-CTK-B-7176677
    - Marfa on June 07, 2021 · at 11:00 pm EST/EDT
      
      Wow! this is why TS rocks. The extent one will go get what they want, is just mind boggling…
Bostonian on June 06, 2021 · at 6:47 pm EST/EDT

Guys … each one of you commenting in this section is “smarter” than me on some level. (It’s the ones who chose not to comment but read your comments who may actually be really smarter (irony and joke).

I mentioned a very important question in a post of a Roger Walter’s song on Memorial Day. Apparently no one who commented (while managing to bring up interesting points) bothered to ponder / consider (unless your Larry Romanoff since I think he knows)

To repeat: for those who missed it: ” What is the nature of history” ( big hint #1 you can not find the answer on the internet or in any book : but the answer is steer-ing at you straight in the face) ( bigger hint #2 it is even More obvious if one looks at everyone’s response as a whole and tries to summarize it all, that is the entire response section in a concise statement).

Peace guys.
Thanks guys- I hope somebody gets this.
- Bostonian on June 06, 2021 · at 7:07 pm EST/EDT
  
  Sorry guys, I believe his name was Roger Waters ( hope he does not read this )
- Bostonian on June 06, 2021 · at 7:33 pm EST/EDT
  
  Amarynth, hurry up and post my first reply to myself before Roger Waters sees it.
  - amarynth on June 06, 2021 · at 7:50 pm EST/EDT
    
    I’m astounded on two levels. First, you do not give me marching orders. Where is your respect sir? Secondly, why on earth do you think I post or not post your stuff? You have a great misunderstanding.
    
    Your post should not have seen the light of day. I’m astounded that it was posted.
    - Bostonian on June 06, 2021 · at 11:13 pm EST/EDT
      
      Amerynth,
      I am very much sorry for the unfortunate misunderstanding if my post was disrespectful. Please excuse my petty post.
      - Bostonian on June 06, 2021 · at 11:36 pm EST/EDT
        
        My humor was mis-placed because the weight of my initial post will be too great a burden to fully comprehend unless one really, really, really tries hard too, but believe me it is based in fact, it is not hyperbole, it is not science- fiction -hypothesis – theory writing I was doing.
        
        It is intended to be mature writing, for a very mature audience, and not for the faint of heart.
        
        Sorry to take up your time with this reply, my last post on the topic, dear sir Amerynth.
        
        amarynth on June 07, 2021 · at 6:54 am EST/EDT
        
        OK, no hard feelings remaining. Sometimes humor just does not work on the screen.
Bosnian Croat on June 06, 2021 · at 11:11 pm EST/EDT

I see here what Serbs write and say
Serbs were a normal people until Milosevic came. He took over the media and the Serbian media then began an incredible propaganda of hatred
We watched the Serbs change into something completely different and we didn’t realize what was going on and we were stunned… and frightened of course
The hatred of Serbs towards other peoples of Yugoslavia grew. Hatred of Croats in particular, but nothing can compare to the hatred of Serbs towards Bosnian Muslims. The Serbs attacked the Muslims with such hatred and savagery that it was something not seen before.
Of course, the Muslims retaliated where they could but the Serbs were much stronger.
Srebrenica is just one of the crimes, there were many more such crimes.
What is worse is that there is no empathy among the people of the former Yugoslavia, there is no regret for the victims from other nations who were killed by their compatriots.
And this is especially true of the Serbs, because the Serbs started that war and committed the most crimes.
The Serbs contributed the most to the break-up of Yugoslavia, but to this day they believe they have done nothing wrong and are the only victims. That is why even today Serbs cannot have any normal relationship with other peoples of the former Yugoslavia
It is enough to see their reactions here when it comes to Srebrenica. Nobody will have anything to do with them because any conversation with Serbs on that topic is impossible
Everyone just thanks God for separating from them
Yes, Putin said that about Srebrenica because he knows very well what it is about
Croatian military Operation STORM is also allowed by America and the West because of Srebrenica.
The BIHAC enclave was surrounded by the Serb army, and Serbs from Croatia and Bosnia jointly attacked the enclave, which had many more civilians than Srebrenica. There was a danger of an even worse catastrophe if the Serbs occupied the enclave. That is why Croatia was allowed to unblock that enclave and to liquidate the creation of Serbs from Croatia, which they called the Republic of Serbian Krajina. This saved the people of the BIHAC enclave from another massacre that would be much worse than Srebrenica.
That is why Putin says he will not allow Srebrenica in Donbas.
And attempts by Serbs to deny and justify Srebrenica and other crimes are deplorable.
- Anonymous on June 07, 2021 · at 1:17 am EST/EDT
  
  Typical Croat comment. You beg Serbs on your knees to liberate you from Gemans and naive Serbs, not just liberated you, but gave you an Parliament. Serbs as winner of WWI gave up their country name and shared it with you. And how did you repay? With genocide on Serbs during WWII and in 90′.
  Please, you are not match to Serbs. Serbs were fighting not you during 90′, but NATO. Your country today is not “democratic” country, but nazi in core.
Spiral on June 06, 2021 · at 11:19 pm EST/EDT

This article is too long and does not even begin to cover the key geopolitical historical players and events, which would have given readers a more complete
picture.

1. Jasenovac concentration camp (1941-1945) and Vatican. Its impact on the Bosnian Serb people and leadership in the war 1992-1995 is obvious by anyone
who lives there. They knew exactly what would have happened if they didn’t pick up weapons to defend themselves.

2. Somewhat earlier are a: formal Annexation of Bosnia and Herzegovina 1908 by Vatican, using their tool , Austro-Hungarian Empire, is an event that rates as one of the key precursors to WWI, then b: First Balkan War in 1912 , c:) artificial creation of a new state Albania in 1913 and d: WWI , 1914-1918 in the Balkans.

This article is a fair attempt to describe demonization of Serbs and their leadership in this most recent war against Serbs, but as far as I can tell it would
have been more productive if it took a deeper historical view of centuries long massacres of Serbs (3 wars only in 20-th century), consistent denial, suppression and destruction of their ancient civilization, culture, archeology and history (dating back to the neolitic times, with their first alphabet and the calendar in the world, metalurgy, etc).

The persistently destructive role of Vatican and British empire interests in the Balkans, and not only there, needs a much better analysis.

Best regards, Spiral

P.S. Spiral is not a Serb, not even a Slav.
- Dr. NG Maroudas on June 07, 2021 · at 12:00 am EST/EDT
  
  Spiral, thanks very much for setting the broader historical drivers of these deliberately (and alas, so easily) inflamed ethnic animosities. As usual, “All Roads Lead to Rome” — or London!
  - Bostonian on June 07, 2021 · at 1:43 am EST/EDT
    
    Your a good person / and very intelligent/ and I enjoy reading your posts (you have even personally responded to one of my posts which let me know you were on the right track)
    
    but I believe the intelligence of the blog authors (especially Larry Romanoff) has evolved us to the point where I now feel confident enough to pose a serious question for you or anyone to kindly consider (take your time on this one – do not rush to respond – it may take some background digging and induction- it may take I life time of unconscience digging and stumbling on information one was never intended to figure out)
    
    Is it possible that historical data you, I , and everyone else was already pre-thought out many generations before it reached you. One may be able to piece together “the truth” but please consider who in their right mind would go through all the trouble to make sure the history you perceive to be true was designed that way for a purpose in mind.
    
    One can trace this pattern going all the back BEFORE the actual recording of history. So why would not this same pattern continue, it didn’t just stop because someone writes something.
    
    In your reply to one of my comments you mentioned 50% of the culprit. Now you just have to figure out the other 50%.
    
    Kindly do not respond to my post, I have done my homework.. and it takes a long time to piece it all together, but it will make your life all the more fruitful if one spends the effort to do so.
- Bosnian Croat on June 07, 2021 · at 12:05 am EST/EDT
  
  For Serbs Jasenovac it is excuse for everything for all crimes they commited in nineties.
  Whatever they do wrong or terrible…excuse is Jasenovac
  
  And Vatican … Jeez… my God …Vatican and Vatican…
  Vatican existence does not have any other purpose but for harrasing Serbs.
  Vatican exist only because of Serbs …to terorize poor Serbs
  I don’t know …but this is some sort of pathology
  To live together with Serbs today it mission impossible. Simply impossible.
  
  But honestly, it is not only Serbs, it is not much different with other peoples and ethnic groups of ex Yugoslavia.
  But Serbs ate the most obsessed
  
  I remember Serbs before all of this… before monster called Milosevic poisoned them
  They were completely different people. To live together with them was beautiful. Friendly, well natured, their hospitality was great.
  And then everything started to change.
  What a pity.
  
  First, Kosovo trauma started to change them, and then HE came… Mr. EVIL.
  Then Mr. EVIL created frightening propaganda machine …socialist propaganda about Brotherhood and Unity, turned into propaganda of monstrous hatred.
  And ordinary Serbs started to change before our eyes.
  It was hard to believe to what was happening.
  Then Mr. EVIL declared that Yugoslavia as it was, was not good for Serbs and that Yugoslavia has to be turned into some sort of unitary state under Serbian domination something like Yugoslavia before WWII.
  That caused nationalism in other parts of Ex Yugoslavia, first in Slovenia then in Croatia..then in other parts of ex YU.
  
  The rest is well known history
  - Marfa on June 07, 2021 · at 11:11 pm EST/EDT
    
    It is called withdrawal symptoms. As long as you’re benevolent dictator, you smile and laugh and dance, because you know end of day, you’re in control.
    The moment all changes, the colors come out. That’s my theory on Serbia and Serbs. Add to it a sacrificial mentality the equation changes and anger bubbles up.
  - Хау јес ноу on June 09, 2021 · at 4:17 pm EST/EDT
    
    I usually avoid commenting your posts because, as I said, I think you are one of the Croats that mostly have heart on the right side.
    But this time I have to. I’ll try to leave out personal details that would reveal my identity.
    First my parents are mixed Serb (mother) and Croat (father), and although there is no guaranty, I have good preposition for a balanced view of the relationship between Croats and Serbs. I was born and grow up in Bosnia.
    
    1. My mother was never fully accepted on my fathers side of the family just because of her nationality. We had lived in the area with Croat majority and close to my fathers’ family. In the beginning of the war my parents moved to Serbia where they stayed until today.
    2. One of my cousins on my father side got married to a Serb while leaving abroad and her father never accepted it and called his own grandchildren as “chetniks” (prerogative of the Serbs).
    3. In the beginning of the war I was studying and renting a room in an apartment own by widow Croat women though from partisan family. She warned me about atrocities against Serbs in Herzegovina, where she originated from.
    4. My mother best friend, also Croat women, warned her during the war in Croatian that she should escape. That was during before the war spread to Bosnia. Her family was from the nearby Croatian village where they were openly planning killing Serbs when war starts (they know or believed the war is inevitable).
    5. Except for once, none of the cousins, visited my parents since moving to Serbia (remember it is more then 2t years since the civil war ended). After that visit, my uncle said that it is his first and last time. My father was very close to his siblings (he was orphan), we were visiting them almost every weekend and due to my parents higher education and better economy they were helping many of them economically.
    My parents and even me, a few times while visiting them, were visiting my cousins when possible (they lost most of their wealth during the war).
    6. I would never take the risk to live in Croatia due to my origin. It would simply be unsafe and unnecessary risk.
    In Serbia, I never experienced any insecurity because of my father and my father, after moving to Serbia, continued to work in the military industry.
    
    Early in the beginning of the war in Bosnia there were massacres of the Serbian civilians in Sijekovci, village in the north with Croatian majority, in Herzegovina and in the middle of the Sarajevo Muslims killed brides father I believe during the Serbian wedding. This was prior to any true or alleged Serbian atrocity.
    Central Bosnia and west part of Herzegovina was full of s.k. black skirts, Croatian paramilitary formations locals and from Croatia.
    In Croatian cities, Serbian families had been hunted down and massacred with infamous case of Zec-family from Zagreb.
    
    You can believe whatever you will but after ww2 Serbs promised each other that they (we) will never again allow our butchers to slaughter us in thousands like ships as Croats and Muslims did during ww2 because of Serbian naivety and trust.
    
    And yes, Catholic Church at Croats (Katolicka crkva u Hrvata) had been main instigator of the slaughter of the Serbs where hundreds of Catholic priests were also perpetrators and hundreds of Orthodox priests were victims. That has been proven and documented for instance in the book Magnum Crimen written by the former Catholic priest Viktor Novak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_Crimen
Johan Meyer on June 06, 2021 · at 11:32 pm EST/EDT

I am glad to see Ed Herman cited. Another author who discusses the Yugoslav wars quite well is Diana Johnstone (Fool’s Crusade). The 8000 number is so much more interesting for the fact of the absence of a list of verifiable names, a matter Ed Herman raised several times—it cannot be tested, and thus is unscientific.

But Ed Herman also discusses Rwanda, which was orchestrated by the same set of personnel; see e.g. Herman and Peterson’s Enduring Lies. To wit: the Ugandan invasion two days after president Habyarimana promised at the UN General Assembly that all refugees from the antifeudal 1959 revolution could apply for Rwandan passports and legally return, descendents included (the Ugandan invasion was led by refugees, first Fred Rwigema then Paul Kagamé who was being trained for the role at Ft Leavenworth).

The interahamwe is blamed for every killing of Túutsis all over Rwanda, yet Romeo Dallaire (no innocent: see Robin Philpot’s Rwanda and the new scramble for Africa, or Christopher Black’s The Dallaire Genocide Fax) admitted in the Military II trial that the interahamwe only operated in Kigali. The interahamwe was also heavily RPF/Inkotanyi/Ugandan army (same organization de facto) infiltrated, to the extent that their (RPF) partner Dallaire had his peacekeepers give the interahamwe bullet proof vests.

The reason Kagamé was being trained was that the next planned step was to invade Congo Kinshasa, as Habyarimana had rejected the US’s request to serve as a base for that invasion. Mobutu had signed mineral contracts with China.

The 1991 census, to which the Ugandans did not object at the time, found a bit less than 600k baTúutsi. According to the western party line, between 800k and 1M2 were killed in 1994. According to the RPF aligned IBUKA (genocide remembrance organization), between 400k and 500k survived, which leads to interesting arithmetic. By contrast, former RPF, Erik Hakizimana, estimated that the RPF had killed between 1M and 2M baHutu in 1994.

The RPF had two very common methods of killing baHutu, namely throwing grenades into homes, and puncturing skulls with hoes. Note that even Judy Rever (In Praise of Blood), who subscribes to the 800k-1M2 of 600k baTúutsi killed story, acknowledges that the giant piles of bashed in skulls are baHutu victims of RPF, as are the beheaded corpses famously flowing down rivers in 1994.

The French sent peacekeepers over Dallaire and Kagamé’s objections (Operation Turquoise, flown in by Viktor Bout); they saved 130k lives. Hence the enmity against Bout.

The stunt that the DEA pulled against Bout in Thailand was so predictable that a parody of the yet to happen stunt was published a year and a half before the stunt in question: the Pulsar episode of the Jormungand manga (“Koko Hekmatyar” is based physically on Mika Brzezinski, hence Hekmatyar as in Gulbuddin, Mika’s father’s old myrmidon of battery acid in the face fame, but as Jormungand is a satire of “Lord of War,” the US propaganda film against Viktor Bout, Koko represents Viktor Bout). In the Pulsar episode, Koko famously says “we will pretend to take the order and leave,” and “Koko Hekmatyar does not take credit!” [As payment…] This is a very on-the-nose satire of the DEA’s stunt, and had it not been published before but after the DEA’s stunt, one could imagine Keitaro Takahashi being charged with contempt of court in the US.

The clown who ran the preparodied prosecution against Bout on the stunt is Preet Bharara.
- A.Deplorable, PhD on June 07, 2021 · at 8:08 am EST/EDT
  
  “Ed Herman also discusses Rwanda, which was orchestrated by the same set of personnel”.
  
  Thanks, Johan Meyer, for pointing to another footprint left by the Clintons. Their bloody track leads from Arkansas through Yugoslavia through Rwanda through Libya to Syria.
  
  Lord and Lady Macbeth of Arkansaw. Of course there were evil forces behind them, driving them on with promises of wealth and power.
Anonymous on June 06, 2021 · at 11:56 pm EST/EDT

America’s and Europe’s dismemberment and destruction of Yugoslavia is a crime that deserves much more scrutiny because it helped to set the template for similar Humanitarian Hybrid Wars in the post-Cold War era.

This includes Humanitarian Hybrid Wars against majority Muslim nations like Libya and Syria, which continue as we speak and are based on similar Western and American-peddled Big Lies about a “dictator killing his own people.”

Unfortunately, the self-proclaimed Western/American Free Press has predictably forgotten this crime against Yugoslavia down the Orwellian MemoryHole.

America and the West will always manipulate this or that ethnic/religious/racial group against a targeted nation.

This is Imperial Identity Politicsat its most Machiavellian.
- Bosnian Croat on June 07, 2021 · at 3:17 am EST/EDT
  
  You cannot accuse America of everything.
  Dismemberment of Yugoslavia and civil war…both are our own achievement.
  We did that. We, peoples of ex-Yugoslavia
  
  Yes, maybe there was some help from outside…but only maybe
  But we destroyed Yugoslavia, we were killing each others
  And we cannot blame anyone else for that
  - Anonymous on June 07, 2021 · at 5:19 am EST/EDT
    
    Keep believing what you want.
    
    But the American ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmermann, was openly calling for the dismemberment of Yugoslavia in 1992:
    
    “Nothing is Forever…”
    In 1992 the US ambassador called for dissolving Yugoslavia.
    http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/nothing.htm
    
    More on Yugoslavia and the Srebrenica narrative:
    http://tenc.net/yugo.htm#7
    - MagdaTam on June 10, 2021 · at 10:26 am EST/EDT
      
      RE: Anonymous on June 07, 2021 · at 5:19 am EST/EDT
      
      “But the American ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmermann, was openly calling for the dismemberment of Yugoslavia in 1992”
      
      Spectators often ponder what is, whilst practitioners ponder why is?
      
      “http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/nothing.htm”
      
      “Keep believing what you want.”
      
      The “Emperor” does not always keep believing that he/she is the “Emperor”.
      
      Mr. Rove thought a moderation of this should be broadcast to the “troops” – you can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are ones you should concentrate on; refers.
      
      However Mr. Rove attempted to use an assertion of positive thinking to finesse/obfuscate what others not being fooled were thinking/planning/doing – which returns focus to why is, whilst alluding to some of the components of why is within the following context:
      
      “From 1989 onwards there were divisions in both the EU and NATO in respect of German re-unification which were in part deflected by notions including:
      
      German re-unification would be a major project which would require most of the concentration of the German authorities for at least 10 years during which arrangements could be made in both the EU and NATO to “contain” re-unified Germany.
      
      The distribution of this information was not restricted to the membership of the 1990 version of the EU.
      
      In conjunction with documents from the “United Kingdom” and “The United States of America” in respect of future “independences” of the “Soviet bloc” predicated upon showing sensitivity in regard to Mr. Gorbachev and his associates’ activities, the information was sent diplomatically to the USSR including to the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, and to other members of the “Soviet bloc”- the usage of photo-copiers not being restricted to Mr. Mitrokhin.”
      
      [ Although many might not agree/believe, major factions within the “Lithuanian Freedom movement”s held notions of “All Russians are bastards” which had a factual basis from their own experience to interpret, hence the “elevation” of a piano player whose “strategic” rhetoric and practice tended to be predicated on “stubborness clothed as resolve” and largely revolved around mantra that the Russians will invade any moment and so the Parliament in Vilnius needed to be sandbagged and under armed protection at all times.
      
      Even with the best interpretation such attitudes could be held not to be in conformance with “documents from the “United Kingdom” and “The United States of America” in respect of future “independences” of the “Soviet bloc” predicated upon showing sensitivity in regard to Mr. Gorbachev and his associates’ activities”, on the contrary interpretations suggested that the Lithuanians were ill advisedly believing that their “freedom” was real, thereby facilitating challenges to the “Emperorness” of the “Emperor” – Emperorness being a fiat dependent on the beliefs of others; akin to reserve currency.
      
      Amongst advisors suggesting how Lithuanian “freedom” could become more real, were “financial experts” from Sweden whose entree was not wholly based on the proximity of Sweden and Lithuania, but also based on partly misguided notions of Swedish rigour, open-handedness and honesty, .
      
      This re-orientation toward “the economic” and the replacement of Mr. Landsbergis and some of his associates by Mr. Brazauskas and his associates in May 1993 calmed the “Emperor” in respect to challenge to her/his “Emperorness ” whilst presenting the “Emperor” with another sceptre by which “leverage” could be coerced.
      
      As the saying goes – time and tide wait for no man or even women – and the conjuring of black into white in 1992/93 was extended to include various developing opportunities for “The Baltic States” which in conjunction with developments in Austria and Germany partly encouraged the ridiculously named “United Kingdom” to pursue “Brexit” “in the fulness of time” ]
      
      However as is the wont of Emperors whose satisfaction is temporary, although better than that apparently that achieved by Messrs Jagger and Richards, when one problem appears “solved” another one appeared apparently “unexpected”, although it had been in gestation for longer than even nine months:
      
      The “unexpected of the day” was the attempted encouraged colour revolution in Russia where some sought to intervene uninvited by taking Mr. Gorbachov prisoner thereby reprising the great man in history illusion and annoying the narod even further, causing disquiet with the “Emperor” sufficient to facilitate a reflex response in desperation – of trying to recruit Mr. Yeltsin and others without proper pre evaluation of hoped for “assets”, in contexts where everyone is for sale is a projected hope rather than the cultural norm of hoped for “assets”.
      
      Others meanwhile quietly continued the ongoing lateral process of transcendence of the “Soviet Union” by initially the CIS and subsequently the Russian Federation.
      
      MagdaTam on June 08, 2021 · at 7:09 am EST/EDT
      
      Outlines thumbnails of the “Emperor demystification transgressions” of primarily Austria and Germany with lesser emphasis on the Dutch “Emperor demystification transgressions”.
      
      Although not widely evangelised in public, developing the riverine systems from Rotterdam to Constanta and the hinterland in times of climate change facilitates redirecting logistics via the Black Sea and the Mediterrean Sea into a safer environment with the added advantage of defining where is “West” – this being one consideration in the breakup of Yugoslavia but not the only one.
      
      Nationalism is a derivative of “exceptionalism” and exceptionalists tend to assign greater significances to themselves that others do not assign to them.
      
      Consequently it is difficult for many to perceive that in coercive social relationships their roles are restricted to being food sources, human shields and sources of contempt for “Emperors”.
      
      Hence the Russian Federation and its associates are not stupid enough to wish to be “Emperors” but wise enough to secure the complicity of think they are “Emperors” in their own transcendence.
      
      “From 1989 onwards there were divisions in both the EU and NATO in respect of German re-unification which were in part deflected by notions ……. ”
      
      In respect of many of these notions, they are no longer being deflected to the same extent, whilst divisions are increasing.
  - MagdaTam on June 12, 2021 · at 3:04 am EST/EDT
    
    RE: Bosnian Croat on June 07, 2021 · at 3:17 am EST/EDT
    
    “You cannot accuse America of everything.”
    
    Accepting complicity is rendered less likely by inherent reactions to coercive social relations of it-wasn’t-meism, thereby facilitating the sustainability of coercive social relation which faciltated the inherent reactions – ergo the fish caught in the net wriggles thereby constraining itself further in the net.
    
    Some have a vague discomfort with this and try to assuage their discomfort by resort to whataboutism continuing the dance of iterations by way of perceived different means.
    
    Making an accusation is also a function of belief that doing so would have significance partly because the would be accuser deems herself/himself to have significance, with a belief that the coercive social relations would change if only the Papa czar, or the narod, or some “decider” knew of these abberations – alternative steps in dances of iterations predicated on notions of representative democracy even when represented by Papa czars sometimes designated “populists”.
    
    All of the above preclude the agency of the accuser by immersion in coercive social relations adding to the albatross population of coercive social relations limiting their facilities whilst increasing the half-lives of their sustainability.
    
    This understanding informed an evaluation by Mr. Putin that “They are blaming the Jews again”.
    
    “Dismemberment of Yugoslavia and civil war…both are our own achievement.”
    
    You are mistaken – you were not wholly responsible but through the hubris of ethnic nationalism from the 19th century were pre-programmed to be objects of useful foolery to others, which varied accusers seek to deny.
    
    You are not exceptional it is a road well trodden; not only in the scatterlings of the Austro Hungarian Empire including Israel and “The United States of America”, but throughout many of imagined communities as “Bosnian Croat” indicates.
Ovaltine on June 07, 2021 · at 5:17 pm EST/EDT

This article is a Must Read.
I was very interested and in as close touch as I could get, to Serbia, for some time before the US (NATO) began it’s kill. I had made contact with a Belgrade radio station and the FRY in Ottawa. What led me to this was that I had spent some time in the Middle East and was aware of The USA’s apparent trend toward reviving the imperialist-European “Great Game” of the two earlier centuries. Central Asia’s vast & yet lightly exploited “natural resources”; and “Pipeline Corridors” were my keywords. The Republic of Yugoslavia was directly in the path of this long-time imperial dream and the Serbs were not cooperating. Camp Bondsteel (named after another “American hero”) is still there, in east Kosovo. Google it. If the US had finished this Balkan Project, Bondsteel would now be the Balkan equivalent to “The Green Zone” in Baghdad. Guardian of the Balkan Corridor.

In short, the ‘elite” of the world have realized that the sustenance of their wealth and power – their easy-access-by-force to the natural resources of the planet, including food – is not infinite; and that a crisis is around the corner. All the “west’s” interventions in the Middle East, from the “conversion” of Palestine, to Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, the Caucasus countries, the Ukraine and Syria have been part of this US desperation for power and (maybe) survival. And all of the evil means they have used – if you’ll notice – form a bloody path on a world globe that runs east from vassal-Europe, straight into Central Asia – where the last bulk of the planet’s resources lay. One of these access routes, (corridors), was to run through Albania, Yugoslavia, Romania and on to the vast oil/gas wealth of the Black and Caspian sea areas. And, of course, from there to the even greater jackpot of the smaller, undeveloped states of Central Asia.

You might remember – if you were interested – that the USA OCCUPIED Iran for twenty five years. (1953 – 1978). But, due to their misplaced hubris and greed, they did not move on since they were too busy sucking the fossil fuel energy out of the Gulf States. Another matter that slowed them down was a significant residue of anti-war feeling at home. In any case, their hubris probably told them that moving on to the resource-ridden Central Asian states would be no problem when the time came. That was their mistake. They would be messing with the ancient backyards of both Russia and China and this was a no-no….. As both Britain and France had learned from the Russians, earlier on.

The next play in the US Game was to come in through Syria. But by this time, Russia was under a new and competent leader who had lifted the country from its knees, and was ready to draw red lines. Mr. Putin could clearly see that this was to be yet another “Balkan Corridor”. So, when Bashar Assad asked for a hand in evicting the “west’s’ head-chopping proxies, in 2015, Putin could also see, that this was a mutual interest; and a good chance to deal appropriately with west-sponsored terrorism.

On the morning of 9/11, at 73 years of age, I awoke, rolled over and turned on my Grundig Satellit 800, got CBC News and heard “the report”. I then skipped upstairs and watched the rest of the farce on TV. There has never been an iota of doubt in my mind that this was a demolition, done “from the inside”, as yet another black flag for the dumbed-down American street. Justification for more of Washington’s insanity and vindication of my view of it’s extent.
- Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 11:20 am EST/EDT
  
  Ovaltine greetings.
  
  I agree with you. Geopolitics is always important in understanding the larger picture and resources are always focus points of interest and struggle.
  
  Balkan was always one of those geopolitical regions of very high interest to different powers, both eastern and western. When you take a look at the new Chinese One Belt One Road project, you see that a transportation through Balkan seems one of the logical ways to connect China with Central and Western Europe.
  
  Russian success in Syria not only strengthened Assad and Syria but after decades, Russian forces operate again in Eastern Mediterranean. That is not just a military success but a change in balance of power in the Middle East. It is not a dramatic change, but its a significant change nonetheless.
  
  Kind regards.
Sarcophilus on June 08, 2021 · at 4:07 am EST/EDT

Ljubisa

Thank you for the light and heat of your article. My best wishes to you and your people.
- Ljubiša Malenica on June 12, 2021 · at 11:01 am EST/EDT
  
  Sarcophilus, thank you for your kind words. All the best.