Attempts to distort the results of the defeat of Nazism and the decisive contribution our country made, which are continuing in Washington even during these days of universal celebration of the 75th anniversary of Victory, cause utter indignation.
In this context we cannot neglect the commentary posted on the White House pages in social networks where the victory over Nazi Germany is credited exclusively to “America and Great Britain.” On the eve of this sacred holiday US officials could not garner the courage and will to even in passing pay tribute to the indisputable role and incomparable colossal losses suffered back then by the Red Army and the Soviet people for the sake of the humankind. Remarks by US official representatives turned out to be extremely restrained.
Regretfully, such an attitude is in apparent contrast with the statement made Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump on April 25 on the occasion of the historic meeting of Soviet and US soldiers on the Elbe in 1945.
The document stresses the joint efforts of our nations in the fight against a common enemy.
We proceed from the assumption that real historical facts may not be ignored, regardless of feelings towards both the Soviet Union, which liberated the world from the brown plague, and our country of today. This is evidenced not only by the numerous grounded responses to the White House tweets from Russians and also from Americans who know their history and people from around the world. It is indicative that their reasonable and fact-based comments are being regularly deleted. And this is being done in the “most democratic country,” which tirelessly proclaims its “adherence to freedom of speech”!
The topic of the scared deeds of the older generation in that war must not turn into another problem in bilateral relations, which are going through hard times as it is. Russia and the US, despite disagreements, can counter ever-increasing present-day challenges on the basis of trust, mutual respect and while taking into account each other’s interests.
We intend to have a serious conversation on this issue with US officials.
For Russians, it was a Sacred War.
For Americans, it was a Walk in the Sun, except for D-Day, which was about Searching for Private Ryan.
For Brits, it was the end of their Empire, finally.
This has English lyrics, the *settings wheel gives you a choice of subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2N366xn6V4
@Larchmonter445
“… For Russians, it was a Sacred War…”
I agree.
But what were we see this 9. of May?
Totally defeat of the Russian nation, because of fake pandemic!
Russian brave ancestors did not fear the hail of bullets, but today Russians are afraid of fake (Kill Bills) – Covid?
Parallel – we have the possibility to see the great and magnificent parade in Minsk, Belarus!
Obviously no Belarus are afraid of Kill Bills – fake pandemic!
Who is the most responsible for this epic scam?
I will not mention his name, because, he is as “saint” on this portal, but everybody knows it.
PS
I know that you are in Russia. I think that your opinion and information about this epic scam indicted to Russian people will be appreciated.
The situation with the epidemic is being used to anger people and to trigger a coup to remove V.V Putin by the forces installed in positions of power by the American colonial overlords. You are trying to point a finger at Putin, who is actually the only one fighting for the interests of the Russian people, using the same old myth that the leader is omnipotent and therefore responsible for everything. It just plays in their hands – be it a honest mistake or on purpose. More or less this is the same old trick to deceive and reflect, blame the victim, create a crisis and channel the protest against your adversary.
“Totally defeat of the Russian nation” — you wish!!
”Totally defeat of the Russian nation, because of fake pandemic!”
Sounds interesting. That would amount to an unbelievably awesome stab-in-the-back by China:
a) Make noises about a stupid hoax
b) Let your most important ally get in trouble thanks to aforesaid hoax
So are we soon going to see China and the US partition ”totally defeated Russia” ? I suppose we are dealing with a poster who subscribes to the ”anti-authoritarian” Weltanschau.
@malleni
I think you misjudge me and the epidemic in Russia. The virus is killing people. It has enormous potential to do lasting damage to the body even if others survive it. These are scientific-medical facts.
I live in that part of Russia called SoCal. Though a part of my mind and heart is always in the Russian World.
I am a big believer in verifiable facts. I also have a very strong fondness of ‘conspiracies’. So, I am always attuned to look for clues that indicate an ‘epic scam’, a plot, a scheme, a false flag, or some covert action.
So, far, I see a virus that became epidemic and now is pandemic. Science seems to be able to prove it started in bats, as all coronaviruses do. Then it jumped to a second animal from which it spilled over into humans. This is the normal, natural course of bat viruses.
It has hit Russia very hard because they allowed transport into the country, though they had shut the border with China. They also allowed free movement within the country with no testing or quarantine protocols. So, the virus got going very slowly and then erupted. For two months everyone thought Russia had escaped the virus. Not so.
Now, because of massive testing, the reported numbers of infected are very high. But the impact is not equal to the infected. The death rate is low.
How they proceed is to be discovered. Today, the nation will be opening up some aspects of normal activity.
We pray the scourge will run its course and this epidemic will end soon.
@all three colleagues here…
Why everybody avoids talking about Belarus?
Bill Gates “pandemic” – should also kill Belarus? … or not…?
The numbers (facts) show that Belarus has 4 times less death than Carantined Russia – proportionally.
Please, make small research besides this site.
You will be very surprized.
Take a look at this : /moveable-feast-cafe-2020-05-10/#comment-802953
@malleni
Two other nations took the same path as Belarus, UK and Brazil. They ended up with a massive mess. The Belarus story is not over. Let’s see how it goes.
Russia is doing massive testing and thus has uncovered many cases.
So far, Belarus has been fortunate. Time will tell the story.
My two Belarusan friends tell me the situation is much worse than the numbers show. They did very few tests relatively speaking. One friend tells me the hospitals are full.
On the other hand, both are post USSR and both hate both Putin and Lukashenko.
I don’t see good choices for Belarus. They’ll be better off with Russia, but they still think the EU is better.
My friend from Belarus says that the number of infected people is limited by the small number of tests. She says the hospitals are full of patients.
Another guy in Belarus I know, says the same thing. Situation is much worse than what is reported.
FWIW
Don’t be so hard on Russia.
Although things seem to have taken a bad turn lately, according to the metric of “deaths per 1 million population”, Russia (15 per million) is doing far, far better than just about any other European country.
I believe Russia’s large number of confirmed Corona-Chan cases has more to do with the extensive testing in Russia, than with a comparably worse epidemic.
@ “For Americans, it was a Walk in the Sun, except for D-Day”
Since 1941, the Soviet Union had wanted a second front from the Western Allies to relieve them. Churchill / Roosevelt delayed this again and again, until in June 1944 they feared that the Soviet Union could reach the Atlantic. The D-Day was intended to prevent this.
2 days after the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, Truman said:
“If we see that Germany is winning, we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way we let them kill as many as possible.” (New York Times, 24 June 1941
SACRED WAR / священная война | with English and phonetic Russian subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdd4AEHfxCo
Note: “идёт”, phoneticly written “idyot” means in English (he/ she/ it) goes
All true. But the White House has its own problems. The myth is barely hanging together anymore. Maybe nothing personal, Russia; maybe just desperate plutocrat clowns and lackeys holding on for dear life.
Did any famous American, an academic, the MSM, soldiers or historians speak up to correct the historical record?
I saw none.
To add insult to injury, I didn’t saw any Brit doing that either.
One might wonder who is pulling the strings in DC. Maybe they don’t even know themselves. That’s a scary thought.
Cheers, Rob
Larchmonter445
The EU recently stated that both Germany and the Soviet Union (Russia) were to blame for the start of the Second World War, while the White House stated that the US and Britain defeated Nazi Germany. Why is Russia being both accused and ignored ?
Anybody who seriously studies the Second World War will notice some pretty illogical facts. For example, how did Hitler manage to finance his world war, fighting on the Western Front, the Eastern Front, the Italian Front, the North African front, in air and sea campaigns ? How did Germany industry manage to function throughout the war, bearing in mind the only raw material Germany had was coal ?
The point is that Hitler was a bankers puppet, placed into power by the bankers. Both he and Napoleon were proxy fighters, financed by the bankers. The largest armies both created were used against Russia. When the First world War was over, Wall Street started investing in German industry. Henry Ford, for example, built truck factories which provided transport for the German military. Wall Street in 1931 opened the Bank of International Settlement in Basel, close to the German border. It was this Bank which financed Hitler. And Sweden ? It stayed “neutral” in both world wars, providing German industry with iron ore, the chief raw material. And did the Western Allies prevent Sweden from selling iron ore to Germany ? The answer is no, because German industry needed to function, the chief aim being the occupation, break up and plundering of Russia, after which Germany would be invaded, the Western Allies then moving into an occupied and broken up Russia. Hitler failed, just like Napoleon. We now have NATO doing the same thing. And the EU and the White House ? What are they doing ? Doing their best to conceal what happened before and during the Second World Ear. They are also pointing their fingers at Russia and Germany so that fingers would not be pointed in the opposite direction. Simple Machiavellian tactics, a reversal of facts. These tactics are also known as Bismarckian tactics.
You forgot to mention Hjalmar Schacht.
The ONLY person to be acquited at Nurenberg, Hitler’s banker, a bagman for international finance.
And about the French Revolution?
Was it financed by the same group?
I sent this article by a Canadian Professor to many who grew up on Saving Private Ryan .It tells it as it was.
https://www.newcoldwar.org/victory-day-remembering-the-great-patriotic-war/
In the war, the Russian people rose up in truth and faithfully made the most noble of sacrifices to Life itself, so that Life would not be erased from our world.
This is not, and never will be forgotten.
I care not who may try to say otherwise, come what may.
Was trump even aware the USSR/Russia fought in WW2?
Seems a fair question to me. Surely, there are many other questions to ask of him as well.
The US is the embodiment of Nazism. It was the template which Nazi Germany emulated. Enslavement, land-grabbing, genocide, institutionalized racism, hysterical flag-waving and national megalomania — everything is there.
Hitler simply wasn’t up to the task. NATO saw nothing wrong with his generals as ”de-nazified” West Germany joined in to protect ”Western Democracy”.
Someone needs to teach Pindos and Euro-trash something; that’s how I see it.
Russian Foreign Ministry: — We intend to have a serious conversation on this issue with US officials.
Good luck with that. You might just as well have a ”conversation” with the Ukronazis.
Well, they are trying to rewrite the history. And they work hard for it. But, as our russian brothers would say – oни не могут украсть то, что не принадлежит им ;-)
Google translation,MOD:
They cannot steal that which does not belong to them ;-)
Точно. It’s still irritating and warps the minds of the unaware. I can’t blame anyone bristling in indignation.
Are you sure?
” It’s the American experience, we lie, we, cheat, we steal”. Mike Pompeo
”They cannot steal that which does not belong to them”
That sounds like some absolutely harmless, inept ”thieves” to me, LOL. Bob Marley had a better grasp of the problem:
A better verdict would be that spraying perfume on faeces does not make faeces attractive.
“They cannot steal that which does not belong to them” (???)
Yes they can – that’s the whole point of stealing.
Well, they say that the history is written by the victor. But US haven’t won. Not yet. And as long as Russia exists as independent country, they can’t win. Because there always be an alternative source of information to their “truth”.
Russo phobia (Racism against Russian People) is a crime that should have been placed at the same level with antisemitism (racism against Jews) a long time ago. Racism is a crime against Humanity. Racism is the root of all conflict, war,& and all kinds of human suffering. Ethnicity is the prerogative of God, any attempt to rank its composition is an evil deserving of utmost contempt.
The Western European powers of Britain, France, & Germany (US joined latter), have a history of treating Russians as an inferior people, deserving to be subjugated. A glaring display of this attitude is the fact that when referring WW2 Nazi crimes, they always mention the 6 million Jewish victims but they never mention the 27 Million Soviet victims, as if Jews are human but
Soviet people (e.g Russians) are not. Segregation always leads to war if left unchecked.
I call on us as individuals to combat Racism and all forms of segregation in our societies. Every child is a gift by God to the fortunate parents. The very love that each parent feel for their children is the very same love that we should extend to our fellow human beings. This is at the very core of the message brought by Jesus in the Gospels.
A special request is for of us as people to stop segregating against the ‘Ugly” looking individuals. This is a part of society that suffers a solitary pain without any form of collective representation.
Funny that you mention France in the WW2 perspective.
At the surrendering talks at the end, also a representative of France was present.
On which Admiral Dönitz pointed to him, turned to General Zhukov and asked in surprise: ‘Did they defeat us too?’
Cheers, Rob
”Attempts to distort the results of the defeat of Nazism and the decisive contribution our country made, which are continuing in Washington even during these days /…/ cause utter indignation.”
I don’t want to sound rude, but I can’t help perceiving the Russian Foreign Ministry as, shall I say, slow learners, at least in this particular instance. On what basis do Russian politicians assume that non-agreement-capable thieves and murderers should be open to reason, honesty, and empathy? Do they expect such qualities among the Ukronazis too?
Hell, Western imperialism has been vomiting this kind of garbage non-stop since at least the 1950s.
Maybe the Russians understand this quite well. It is difficult to imagine that they do not. Openly exercising and showing the self restraint and discipline that they are, even in the face of such behavior is admirable. The entire world, and everyone in it, is being shown the difference between right and wrong, in this way. Everyone sees it, too, with their own eyes. Tell them, then show them. Again, again, again. Repeat as necessary.
Nussiminen
“I don’t want to sound rude, but I can’t help perceiving the Russian Foreign Ministry as, shall I say, slow learners”
Until very recently, held a view almost similar to yours , but currently I think it is a question of rigidity born out of too much education both academically & culturally. The modern, diplomatic space is a ‘Jungle” / Street’ dominated by the USA & its lackeys . It requires a “Streetwise’ guy (mentally agile, holding no fixed positions, skilled at flowing with the tide (Blending) , but quick to identify and put opportunity to his advantage). If I were in charge of the Russian Foreign Ministry I would identify among patriotic citizens the relevant (young, tall, good looking & must speak fluent English) “Streetwise” guys and deploy them to strategic overseas diplomatic missions (UN & major western capitals). The aim is to identify & punch holes through the western propaganda machine by re-directing their hypocritical narratives to work against them .
Might be a little late for any of that at this point. The western propaganda machine owns the joint now and the western sheeple have been so completely bought off by the allure of the electronic social media simulacrum that they’re not paying attention to either side anyway. For most of the youngsters these days, politics and history are just so 20th century.
Not just the western sheeple but also the eastern and fairly, the whole world had been taken by by the social media simulacrum in the latest 25 years. Since 1990 an entire generation has grown up in an environment of ever growing brainwash which now has its effects. When leaders are talking rubbish about history, they have this generation in mind as the first target of audience because this generation has grown up learning the lies methodically introduced in school’s curriculum.
Three fourths (75%) of the German army was on the eastern front fighting Russia. So after D-day the US faced only one fourth (25%) of the German army. On D-day the greatest invasion force in history was opposed by only 500 Germans who were manning the defenses at the beachhead. As to the minuscule British effort, three fourths (75%) of the allied troops were Americans. America proved that it was just a British lackey when they put one third (33%) of their soldiers under British general Montgomery.
In fact, on D-day, Montgomery was overall Allied land commander for Overlord. So they were all under his command until Eisenhower arrived. As for “500 Germans”, Juno beach alone attacked by the Canadians was defended by 3 battalions of the 716th Infantry Division with a strength of 7,771 soldiers of all ranks. I mean, c’mon. Let’s not get silly about it. The USSR’s battles unquestionably involved larger numbers, but no need to belittle others to make the point.
Couldn’t Trumpeo at least have acknowledged the Canadians, the Free French and Polish Paratroopers who fought with the British 8th army? Man … :-)
They were simply not interested in history at all and I don’t think that history had ever been their most important procupation during their studies.
As embodied by Trump Regime officials like Mike Pompeo, America lies, cheats, and steals concerning *any* issue of political significance in general.
So it is not a surprise that America would also try to lie about the history of World War 2 and the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Nazi Germany, which incidentally was financed and aided by the United States and United Kingdom before World War 2.
The reason why the Anglo Americans colluded with Nazi Germany was they hoped to use it as a geopolitical battering ram against the Soviet Union.
This is the Anglo-American Empire’s divide-and-conquer strategy against Eurasia–a Machiavellian strategy that continues to this very day.
Just as interesting is how America worked with or aided German and Japanese war criminals AFTER World War 2 in terms of Operation Paperclip, the Gehlen Org Network, or Unit 731.
Was there an ideological contamination from the Nazis?
http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2018/11/was-there-ideological-contamination.html
U.S. paid Unit 731 members for data
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/08/15/national/u-s-paid-unit-731-members-for-data/#.XrrYQahKhPY
Our Nazis: the Gehlen Org
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/02/our-nazis-the-gehlen-org/
The CIA and Nazi War Criminals
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm
@ Regretfully, such an attitude is in apparent contrast with the statement made Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump on April 25 on the occasion of the historic meeting of Soviet and US soldiers on the Elbe in 1945.
As George Orwell writes in “1984”, it is crucial for the power of the “Big Brother” to erase thought, information, the past. No sooner had the last Russian soldier left Germany / GDR in 1994 than this bridge over the Elbe in Torgau was blown up. The picture on which the Red Army and US soldiers reached out their hands on April 25, 1945 for the imminent victory over the Nazis was to disappear from consciousness, just like other memorials and monuments commemorating heroic deeds of the Red Army. The Konew memorial in Prague also disappeared a few weeks before May 8/9, 2020. Without Corona, German soldiers would have operated at the Russian border again on that day with “Defender 2020”.
The “exceptionalist” hate being ignored. They will puff up their chest, stomp their feet, and turn red in the face. They are best ignored as are all psychopaths, but carry a big stick (sarmat or avangard) lest this attempt to strike you).
@Larchmonter445, Thank you for the youtube video of Sacred War. I have seen several versions but not the one with the extended lyrics about crushing the nazis.
Hitler and his inner circle were Jewish.
Hitler was financed in the main by Jewish international bankers from London and New York.
The international bankers actively developed, promoted, and implemented Communism after 1900. Their stated goal was to merge the USA with Russian communism.
Their
stated purpose for the merger was to create “one administrable unit” …. monopoly. New World Order.
Germany was never going to win WWII.
The main problem existing today is the stark reality that the “Brown Plague” wasn’t removed from the world by the USSR, but merely changed its location to what’s now the Outlaw US Empire. That’s also an undisputable historical fact that seems to be too sensitive to be openly discussed, which is most unfortunate. Financialized Fascism resides within the Outlaw US Empire and its methods are well researched, proven, and operating as I type. The Chinese and their Russian partners say they’re no ideological conflicts between them and the Outlaw US Empire, but that rhetoric is immediately disproven when looking at the utterances of Trump, Pompeo, and others within the regime. I’d like to think that the behavior exhibited by Russia and China on this critical point was for some good purpose, but I’ll admit to not seeing it if it exists.
If the Red army had not engagement approximately 300 German divisions, the US and Britain would not have been able to put a rubber ducky on the beaches of France.
The one thing that the enemy has never been able to understand, is that the essence of Life is immutable. Literally. It quite literally cannot die. Forms may be broken. There may be victories, there may be defeats, but Life continues to be. Even if the enemy abhors it, tries to seperate it, tries to extinguish it. Life will always be, as ever it has been, in whatever form it chooses to take, at whatever time, at whatever place.
Long story short, they never had a chance.
Adolph Hitler was quite the admirer of the British.
Thus, his invasion of the Soviet Union was an attempt to emulate the British Empire and turn the Soviet Union into Germany’s “India” and the Nazi educational system emulated the British public school system.
Written in 2011, the article below anticipates the West’s current attempts to rewrite the history of the Soviet Union and World War 2 by suggesting that the West seeks “to cast a shadow over the memory of Soviet soldiers who fought in it. Among other things, the efforts aimed at equating fascism – a monster nurtured by the West in the 1930ies-1940ies – and Russia’s XX century wartime past are supposed to divert attention from the continuity between the Anglo-Saxon imperialism and the German national socialism.”
This article specifically discusses Prof. Manuel Sarkisyanz’s work, _From Imperialism to Fascism: Why Hitlers’ India was to be Russia_, which clearly demonstrates the Anglo-Saxon roots of Nazism.
Anglo-Saxon Roots of German Nazism
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/07/05/anglo-saxon-roots-of-german-nazism/
Any attempt to delegitimize the events of WWII that led to victory over the Nazis, at the costs of 27 million Russians, would be laughable if it weren’t so painful. There is a photo of Russian and American troops smiling and shaking hands at the River Elbe in Torgau, Germany that says it all. Next year lets work to make sure that the task of writing a memorial for V-E Day be given to any 10th grader at New York Military Academy.
They have been rewriting the history of WW2 since before the blood was dry. Ever read any British history of the eastern front? Poorly written garbage at least the main stream stuff but there is a shred of historical ethics left some modern historians over there are doing a good job with little to no support from from the so called experts. American history of WW2 morphed into something any thinking person would reject out of hand. Don’t go there stay away it is pure fantasy. Belongs with Marvel Comics. So with that in mind is anyone surprised by the western historical scholars? I am not.
Berlin under the Allies (1945 – 1949) – Full movie in HD
The film first shows the emptiness and lack of prospects of the first days and weeks, but soon public life
is halfway organized again. The years 1946/47 are all about reconstruction. In 1948 the conflict broke
out openly and the division was consolidated. Nevertheless, Berlin is still a city, people can come
together, just like in East or West.
https://www. youtube. com/watch?v=KS_Vw5DMlEI | 1:30:18
You can change the video’s subtitles to English
Sorry, the correct link to the video above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS_Vw5DMlEI
Germany 1945 from above – ZDF-History – Germany 1945 from above
After the capitulation on May 8, 1945, Germany is like a wreckage of rubble. With the help of aerial photographs of Allied military personnel, the documentation looks at the destruction from above for the
first time.
In the last months of the war tens of thousands of bombs fell on German cities, including Dresden,
Würzburg and Mainz. Hundreds of thousands of people lose their homes, their families and often their
courage to live. In the summer of 1945, they looked into an uncertain future.
Because there is chaos in the cities. Hitler’s war had sparked a dynamic of violence that went far beyond surrender. Using the cities of Berlin, Dresden and Cologne as an example, the documentary looks at the
lives of the Germans among the rubble and compares the film footage of the Western Powers from the
summer of 1945 with those from the 1930s and the present, 70 years later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3H0qiotcpI | 44:09
Dimitris Michalakopoulos: Only fourteen years later, this amputated country (West Germany),
the third largest economy in the world.
Respect from Greece
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My 1945 – North Germans remember the end of the war (documentary)
A historical video diary from 1945. Contemporary witnesses report on the war, concentration camp ex-emptions, their return and a fresh start in post-war Germany.
A soldier as a guardian angel, the first radio interview of a Holocaust survivor, an escape over half-
collapsed bridges, the first day of school in destroyed Hamburg – “My 1945 – North Germans remember
the end of the war” tells in the form of a video diary how people look out Northern Germany experienced
the year 1945: between chaos, doom and relief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPiRDuTnLd4 | 30:26
Pokerface 1337: War is a terrible thing. All that is left is destruction, decimated people, poverty, hunger
and misery. Completely independent of who started the war. In the end, only the people suffer.
Sorry! I forgot to write that the subtitles of both videos can be changed to English.