It is not all clear what the German position is. There are some voices in Germany who clearly acknowledges the fault of the west. But the vast majority seems to be of the view that we are right and Russia is wrong. This includes ordinary citizens as well. There is a clear trend of Germans totally ignoring the crimes of the Ukrainian junta and allowing them a free run. I am a bit suspicious about Merkel’s goal with the minsk-2. It is quite clear the ukrs have no intention to full fill the deal. Naming the east as occupied territories, not lifting the economic blockade etc are clear signs of violation of the deal. The declaration of the east as occupied territories was just 1 day after Poroshenkos visit to Germany where Germany wanted sanctions to be kept till the minsk deal is fulfilled. Recently, Dimitry yarosh was absorbed into the ministry of offence. At this point, the minsk deal seems a joke. So what did Germany or Merkel wanted in the first place. There is possibility that she just wanted to act like a peacemaker, while the true intention was just to make sure the sanctions continue for ever. May be they wanted it to take it slower than the Americans and wait till a more opportune moment to strike.
One thing is for sure: whatever Merkel and Hollande were trying to accomplish at Minsk was 100% coordinated with the U.S.
There is no way they were acting independently. No way! And I cannot believe the number of supposedly informed analyst that suggest otherwise.
One unmistakable proof France and Germany were not acting independently of Uncle Sam is the fact that neither their bonds nor their stock markets have been attacked in the last few weeks.
Anyway — still waiting for Russia to do something… anything…
So far the U.S. has won victory after victory (including turning Cuba for crying out loud) and they are about to check another one in Iran.
Why doesn’t Russia want Iran to have nuclear weapons, huh?
Can’t stand those pictures of Lavrov and Kerry laughing it out together…
Oh and Russia striking deals with visa and MasterCard, increasing its trade with the U.S. In 2014, making plans to build another space station with the U.S., Russia working closely with Exxon Mobile, and on and on…
I think we’ve all been taken for a ride. Putin is just like every other politician on this planet. Period.
In a recent thread I argued (based on larger wealth inequality in Russia cf west) that there is little to distinguish between the 2 “evil empires”.
I’m no longer sure that it isn’t just a single evil empire taking everyone else (99.99%) for a ride – I hadn’t realised Merkel was on the Gazprom board!
French political scientist (PhD) Pierre Hillard (his videos are often featured on Alain Soral’s website) has argued for over a decade now that Putin is part of the globalists.
I refused that argument all those years. These days I must say I wonder… the facts I listed above do not lie. They are not theories. They are FACTS.
So, what gives, huh?
The conclusion is that we are all under the same regime whenever we live and the people have no power, be they Americans (many of whom disagree with the system), Germans, French or Russians.
Charette (apologies for initial Charlette – embarassed),
I had pointed Ann at Cuba in that recent thread as a model of equality. I’m sad to hear your news, I was not aware of that.
Yes – the facts do seem to clear. To put hope in a man (Putin) in the the face of these does seem to be beyond futile. It does not seem logical why one set of oligarchs would be any less depraved than another.
In my opinion, by definition all Oligarch’s are evil – period.
“French political scientist (PhD) Pierre Hillard (his videos are often featured on Alain Soral’s website) has argued for over a decade now that Putin is part of the globalists.”
And there are others in the US as well, who believe that Putin is a globalist. One of them is an economist. This same economist also points out that the Chinese have been buying US real estate at a dizzying pace;
“China has recently purchased the JP Morgan building in Manhattan for $725 million. One could reason that they have in fact purchased all of JP Morgan. And I’m sure it will soon be announced that China has or is in the process of purchasing other Western banks and physical assets. These banks make up the majority owners of the Federal Reserve. ” ( http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2014/01/16/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve/ )
The author of that article goes on to say;
“The system of debt based money creation of the Western world is dead. It’s over. The shift East is in the final stages of completion.
Obama’s so called “pivot east” is less about positioning assets to counter the stirring of the eastern dragon, and more to do with making those military assets easy to confiscate when the terminal day arrives. ”
So, not only Russia is making deals with Visa and MasterCard and increasing trade with the US, but China is doing so as well. Nothing is as it seems on the surface and it makes one wonder if the whole “East/West conflict” business is simply a charade to hide something else. But what could be going on?
J.C. Collins (the author of the article that I quoted above) claims that China and “other countries” of the world are taking on US debt because the US defaulted on its debt back in October of 2013. Collins claims that “China, or the BRICS countries, and/or a consortium of international interests, most likely organized through the I.M.F., will manage the U.S. debt through exchange rate increases and trade tariffs.” And he goes on to say : “Why would China and other countries take on the risk of this debt? Simple, it’s economic reset or economic collapse. Its in the worlds interest to re-structure the U.S. debt to save the whole whale from beaching itself.”
How can you be so sure that “whatever Merkel and Hollande were trying to accomplish at Minsk was 100% coordinated with the U.S.”? Please share your insights, if any, into such coordination. I, for one, do not know whether it was coordinated or not. I do not think much of Merkel, but since Gauck is in office she’s not number one on my hate list any more. Yes, she’s been selected for office by the US, but she wouldn’t be the first puppet to eventually take on a life of her own. Consider that the US way is bad for Germany and the Russian way is promising … and, unlike you and me, German big business captains talk directly to Merkel.
One thing I’m certain of is Merkel won’t take Germany the way Sackarschwilli did with Georgia. :)
Also, the US doesn’t always “attack their bonds” or “their stock markets”. The US varies its game. Has it occurred to you that Franco-German Boeing competitor Airbus has been attacked last week? By a “pilot suicide”? Or, for the nitpickers, “copilot suicide”? Suicide my ass. The story is totally ridiculous.
Lastly, never lose faith in Vladimir Putin. Never, whatever happens, whatever the appearances. A true Führer, a great Führer. (For the politically correct: No offense intended.) I mean it! (Not putting a smilie here lest you doubt I really mean it.)
If Merkel and Hollande were being honest, why did they refuse to attend victory day in Russia? That would have been a great show of good faith.
Why hasn’t Hollande delivered the first Mistral ship? That would have been a nice show of good faith.
Finally, and I’ll repeat what I’ve said in my first post: every country that challenges the U.S. will find its bonds and stock markets under attack in short order. None of that has happened to France and Germany. It’s been quite the opposite actually.
“… every country that challenges the U.S. will find its bonds and stock markets under attack in short order …”
Regrettably, one might say, but in spite of all its present problems, the U.S. economy appears to be preponderant on our planet. George Friedman, for instance, claims at the beginning of his 2009 interview “The Next 100 Years: A forecast for the 21st century”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpAkT5YnpEA (part 1) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVSEAhvRD4 (part 2), that “the American economy is larger than the next four economies combined” and “constitutes between 25% and 30% of the world’s economic activity”; China’s economy, on the other hand, is one-fifth of the U.S. economy, etc. Then adds that “the United States Navy controls all the oceans of the world, something that no other state in the history of humanity has ever achieved”, and concludes that “it is very hard for another country to challenge the U.S. in all the dimensions in which it is powerful”. The interview also provides some of his global views on Russia, in particular at the beginning of its part 2.
[A natural thought while listening to all this appeared … “oh, so, that’s why Zionists presently consider the U.S. as their “safest bet””…]
China’s economy is most certainly not one fifth the size of the US economy. Depending how you measure, it may already be larger. Purchasing Power Parity, probably yes; GDP, no, not yet–but fairly soon if current growth trends for both continue.
However the two stack up overall, the US probably has more financial muscle and ability to deploy it. But on the other hand, China may have more actual productive capacity and almost certainly more ability to prod its economy into doing constructive things useful for nationbuilding projects.
Strong people never need to present that they are strong, because their actions will present the exact level who is stronger.
Only week people /nations / always has to stress “how strong they are” Listen to the last presentation of the Mr.Natanyaho in Chicago how many times he was stressing how strong and powerful they are……
So Charette what you’re saying is that this whole Western demonizing of Putin is a charade, that he’s essentially on the same team and that this another case of a good-cop/bad-cop act (take your pick as to who plays the good-cop and who the bad-cop).
If we follow your line of reasoning then either Putin is being played or is knowingly playing along: every move the US has executed has only served to bolster Putin’s popularity and standing in Russia, the sanctions and EU-sponsored aggression in Ukraine have provided Putin with the political cover to re-structure the Russia economy along the exact lines the West has been urging Russia to do for years (diversify the Russian economy away from a single product (oil&gas) to multiple industries and services) and, ironically, along the exact lines that Putin and his team have wanted to do as well.
So….. based on your contention then this whole Ukraine thing, the sanctions and Syria were just pantomime and the real intent of the US-deep-state (and the global deep-state) was to:
– kick-start Russian economic restructuring,
– break Germany’s and the EU’s steady undermining of Russian industries (thru dumping of under-priced industrial goods),
– to halt Russian de-industrialization (driven by German malfeasance, and artificially high domestic interest rates set by the internationally controlled Russian Central Bank – interests that kept the ruble uncompetitively over-valued and prevented domestic financing of industrialization projects)
-to create patriotic fervor around Putin (so he can carry out painful economic changes)
-to solidly cleave/undermine EU influence within Russia by forcing the Russian masses to see the true closet-nazi nature of Brussels – thereby permanently discrediting and undermining the Euro-phile 5th-columnists “Russian-Liberals” (aka “Atlantic-Integrationists”) within Russia.
-to halt European/Russian Integration whereby Russia would inevitably become a de-industrialized resource-based economy almost entirely dependent of Germany and the EU for industial and technical inputs.
-to force the Russian establishment to look-east and dump Europe.
-all this to allow Russia to firmly become independent/self-sufficient enough to check/bracket Europe; i.e. to permanently crimp any chance of the EU ever becoming a Eurasian Superpower.
Don’t you think that’s a little far-fetched? Or do you think that it’s a realistic scenario? I’m not judging you, I’m simply asking you to consider the implications of your suspicion.
Listen, I’m not going to go over all those points, but yes, it all seems plausible to me in the grand scheme of things. For more on all you’ve listed, watch Pierre Hillard’s videos.
Again, I refused to believe it for as long as I could. And to a certain extent I still do. But it all seems plausible to me now. After all, Putin was hand picked by Washington’s Eltsine puppet himself, right? Well, for a long time I wanted to believe that Putin had screwed all of them. These days I think that maybe he’s been screwing all of us.
One thing to conclude… tiny Lybia and little old Iraq were about to throw a major monkey wrench in the dollar-system machine… that’s why they were destroyed (without Russia lifting a finger)… tiny Lybia and small Iraq were about to do that… But somehow giant, massive, powerful Russia can’t do that? They can’t REQUEST their natural resources be paid in anything but the dollar?
To Charette
I am sick and tired of anti-Putin trolls, and this site has been better than others. But here we go. In case you are not a troll, I will give you a piece of my mind.
You simply do not understand what kind of person Putin is and what he is trying to accomplish. Perhaps it is difficult without speaking Russian, and regularly watching his meeting with various people on Russian TV. He loves Russia. Period. He is trying to do the best for Russia, without jerky movements that may ruin everything. He says often to people that we need time to get stronger. He is right.
And Russian people trust him. I do too. Do you have better candidates to trust – but those who do not just blah-blah but take responsibility for their actions?
Oh so you are able to get yourself into other people’s hearts and minds? Good for you!
But I note that you did not tackle the FACTS that some of us have listed. Why don’t you leave personalities aside and discuss those FACTS?
Please explain to me the following:
-Why were Visa and Master Card allowed (again) to do business in Russia?
-Why did trade between Russian and the U.S. surge in 2014?
-Why did Exxon Mobile’s investments go up more than 300% in Russia in the last 12 months?
-Why would Russia agree to build another space station with the U.S.? Why not with China? (just looking for a valid answer, that’s all)
-Why does Russia negotiate with countries such as the U.S., France and the U.K. to prevent Iran from developing its nuclear program? How come Russia doesn’t want Iran to develop its nuclear program?
-Why hasn’t Russia done anything to REQUEST any currency OTHER than the dollar in exchange for its natural resources? (tiny Lybia and small Iraq were about to do that… how come mighty Russia can’t do it?)
-Etc…
Again, I’m just looking for logical answers to all this.
I don’t think it is fair to scream shill whenever someone puts out a comment you don’t agree with.
I have been thinking along the same lines as Charette recently, aided by the writing on the blog redefininggod. Some very interesting writing on how we are all being played for mugs.
Interesting article here on Putin’s ‘philosophical’ background.
russialist.org/paul-grenier-a-conservative-russia-this-means-war-the-tragedy-of-american-ideology/
“given that his enemies are sprouting like mushrooms near his front door.”
In various places including Russia people pick wild mushrooms.
To pick sucessfully the mushrooms need to sprout, and the picker needs to establish location, establish which mushrooms are safe to pick, and implement relevant picking/storing methods..
Some mushrooms can be picked and other mushrooms are best left in the ground.
Perhaps your estimation of size and location of the mushroom crop is misguided.
Putin is a (powerful) man in the centre of an array of mind boggling oligarchical wealth. He looks after that wealth (demonstrated by Russian inequality) – or he wouldn’t be where he is…unless, of course, he has mystical powers?
Now, if that were true I could maybe enter the wonderland of a “just” opposition to the “western empire”
You are sadly uninformed, understand little of Russia’s economic position in the face of sanctions, lack an understanding of diplomatic protocols and feel resentful because the US and its vassals aren’t getting the kicking from Russia you’d like to see them get.
You are looking for a hero in a fantasy world. Grow up and learn from the master before you rush to naive conclusions.
Ha ha ha! Diplomatic protocols… ha ha ha… like the ones every other country violates all the time?
Please answer the questions above…
Even a pathetic buffoon like Hollande knows he can throw up all over an official contract bound by international law and there’s nothing Putin will do about it.
Good grief! A couple months ago Tass had that article about how difficult it would be for Russia to ban Hollywood crap. Man! They can’t even do that!!!
What now, is Hollywood crap a necessity in every day Russian life? Life would end without it?
For those seeking to add additional context to Mr. Escobars visit to Donentsk, perhaps for fuller understand it should be remembered that Mr. Ginsburg’s howl include roughly the following line –
Charette, I agree with your basic premise and have made comments to that effect on other posts, in both the context of international relations and U.S. domestic policy. I do believe that there’s an international privileged class, the global “one percent,” if you will, that has no national allegiance and that is carving up the pie among themselves.
However, you are making a couple of errors, which is why some of those responding to your comment are able to pick apart your argument.
First, when you say that Merkel and Hollande coordinated 100 percent with the U.S., you are making a false presumption that there is one “U.S.” In fact, there are competing factions, which is one of the reasons the Russians are so frustrated. They can make an agreement and think everything is settled, only to find out that it was overruled or changed somewhere in the chain of command. This confusion is partly due to holdovers in the State Department with ties to Bush and Cheney, Victoria Nuland being one of the most visible. You might recall a recent story in the German media about Nuland throwing a hissy fit about Merkel’s “Moscow thing.” Her views are not universally accepted within the Obama administration, whatever they might say in public. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/
While there is no essential difference between Republicans and Democrats anymore, there are competing factions for the 2016 presidential nomination. Hillary is a lightning rod within her own party. I read somewhere that Kerry does NOT want her to be president. Meanwhile, she and Bill have a lot of rich foreign friends who are contributing to her campaign fund, many of them in Ukraine. You can bet that backroom deals already are being made, especially since Ukraine is about to be sold off to foreign investors. Who’s promising what to whom, and how might that be messing with a negotiated settlement?
One thing the various U.S. factions can agree on is opening markets to Western corporations. USAID’s basic mission is to clear the way, even if it takes years of patiently nurturing “democracy” and “human rights.” That said, many of the world’s largest companies have operations in Russia, so it’s not quite correct to point to ExxonMobil as proof of U.S.-Russian cooperation. First, the large multinationals may be based in a particular country, but they owe no allegiance. I recently read a reference to them as “supranationals,” which is more accurate. Second, there is aggressive competition between the supranationals for big contracts in foreign countries. ExxonMobil competes with Chevron, BP, and many others that, again, are not there to represent their home countries but for the profits. Also don’t forget the financiers. JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and CitiBank operate in Russia, as do Barclay’s, HSBC, Deutsche Bank; the list goes on.
A quick Google search will show that the deal with Iran may be more about dropping sanctions so that Western companies will have another market to exploit. If I had to guess why Kerry and Lavrov are laughing, it’s probably because Russian businesses also will get a piece of the action, and the politicians will be rewarded for their “service.” Snark aside, they have spent a lot of time working together and apparently are on friendly terms. Is that so bad?
Still, I agree that the cozy business deals suggest there’s another world with different rules for the wealthy few, and we aren’t supposed to see it. Otherwise we wouldn’t foot the bill or agree to die for the “cause.” The elites are not politely negotiating the pie; they’re fighting each other for it, much like the colonial powers fought wars over control of wealth and resources. The thing is, a lot of their activity is public and there for anyone to see if they didn’t allow the magicians to redirect their attention. This is one of the reasons I tell people to ignore headlines screaming that so-and-so politician made an [outrageous, aggressive, fill in the blank] statement. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
As for Mr. Putin, it’s probably true that he has enriched himself as a result of his position and that his motives aren’t entirely selfless. But I don’t know why we should expect them to be. It seems that some folks have a psychotic need to believe that the side they’re on is “right and good” and that all the propaganda, lies, theft, war crimes, and dirty tricks are on the other, “evil” side. If one of their heroes gets caught, it must be a frame-up or a false flag.
I choose the side of Putin and Russia not because they are “good,” but because there needs to be a restoration of the global balance of power. Since 1989, there has been only one superpower, with disastrous consequences for the planet and the majority of its inhabitants. Eventually the BRICS or some variation might rise to provide the counterweight, but right now, Putin is it. Whatever he may be doing in private, he’s shown himself to be more mature, wiser, and more sane than any of his Western counterparts.
I agree with you.It’s foolish to trust the German elite at this point.While Russia and Germany should be natural allies and friends.The “current” German elite stops that from happening.If they are finally removed it could be accomplished.But until then it’s just plain foolish to trust Germany.
Germany is a pussy-state, like all modern western nations. The 24/7 talk of the blessings of democracy has softened everyone’s brains. Add to that the constant media claptrap, the Hollywoodism, the soul-crushing bolshevik education system – no surprise even Germanwings pilots are – or so we are told – suicidal.
Germans have to wake up from their post-WWII slumber. And the rest of Europe too. Now is the time. F*** the Troika!
It’s not even a state. It’s an American protectorate and anybody “elected” as the “head of state” in Germany is an American agent in charge of serving American interests in the midst of Europe.
it is so because it’s current leader chooses to do so. I dont know how much chance there is, but hopefully in the next election, they elect someone better that a US slave.
Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
Merkel appears totally subservient to the americans. Chancellor Schroeder refused to join the “coalition of the willing” in 2003, much to the anger of Rumsfeld, and Merkel, as leader of the opposition at the time, went crawling to washington to make a snivelling apology on the behalf of germany. She would have joined an invasion of Iraq, a fact her party, the CDU, have since attempted to forget and bury.
There are voices in Germany that support common sense on this matter but you currently don’t find them in the main stream press or in the ruling coalition. They have a manner that attempts to present absurdity as common sense but germans have long been experts at that.
“… It is not all clear what the German position is. …”
That is what Freeman talks about in the video segment from 9:37 to 12:10 – where he stresses that Germans themselves do not know it!
Freeman here also says (at 10:24) that it is joining of German capital and German technology with Russian natural resources and Russian manpower that has “for centuries scared the hell out of the United States”.
Looks like the guy is selling books with repacked Wolfowitz doctrine in it:
*US is an Empire *and the only and greatest one *and if there is a challenge emerging, it must be eliminated, preferably by having competitors fighting with each other. (Coalitions not needed, just some rulers installed).
Makes some predictions (of sort, Russia will disintegrate by 2020 due to oil prices, -presumably will be replaced by Poland and Turkey, -as the US wants it so)
Really, this guy can say whatever he wants, but (hopefully) he does not determine the actual US policy. (But who does?)
@But the vast majority seems to be of the view that we are right and Russia is wrong. This includes ordinary citizens as well.
Germans are disciplined people. I remember a story from the time of GDR. Tourists from a brotherly socialist country went on a visit to a family in Berlin, living close to the Wall. They knew that they would be able to view the West German TV. In all other socialist countries catching other televisions became sort of national sport, albeit nominally illegal (but authorities closed the eyes knowing that the people wouldn’t do anything silly – they were watching the silliest programs anyway). So, our tourists asked their Berliner friends to comment on West German emissions. The Berliner looked genuinely puzzled at the request. “We do not watch it”. “How come”, retorted the tourists, “you are in meters from the TV station on the other side”. “But it is western propaganda, we shouldn’t watch it”!
The countries of Eastern Europe have much more to fear from an alignment of German and Russian interests than America has. Historically, the peoples of these countries have lived under the control of either the Russians or the Germans. By stationing troops and equipment in the countries that lie between them, America has the best assurance that it can keep Russia and Germany from aligning their economic and political interests with each other.
The American intervention in Ukraine served the purpose of weakening Russia economically, and stirring up the fears among the Baltics, Poles, and Balkans of Russian resurgence. This has persuaded those peoples to let the American military establish itself within their territories. It seems that the conflict in Ukraine has worked in the favor of American interests.
Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic union with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat – if the new union was to be a success, Britain must be kept out because according to the German diplomat it was “the continent’s ancient enemy”.
Today several nations, especially Russia, would agree with that assessment. With 66,000 of its nationals on the run from justice, and a large number of them having found asylum in Britain, Russia is the most affected by Britain’s policies.
Russians are stupid to trust English in any way not realising that English parasites are their biggest and persistent enemy which must be sorted out.
“The countries of Eastern Europe have much more to fear from an alignment of German and Russian interests than America has.”
This is wrong. Totally wrong.
You probably didn’t understand what that arrogant Friedman said. The Anglo interest is to keep the peoples of Europe at each other’s throat. That is, at war with each other, periodically. War is precisely the thing to fear. Because of the havoc it wreaks. European integration up to the Ural mountains, or even better: Eurasian integration brings peace and prosperity on the continent. Which is precisely what the Anglo leaders want to prevent.
The Next Decade is a book written by George Friedman, and is primarily about the United States’ relationships with other countries. The book also discusses the paradox of “the empire and the republic”, and addresses some demographic, technological, and economic issues, primarily those that will affect the 2010s.
The main theme of the book is how the American administrations of the next ten years will need to create regional power balances, some of which have been disturbed. Friedman conceptualizes America’s successful management of world affairs not by directly enforcing countries, but by creating competing relationships, which offset one another, in the world’s different regions. For example, in the past, Iraq balanced Iran, and currently Japan balances China. Friedman asserts this is the decade where the US as a power must mature to manage its power and balance as an unintended empire and republic.[1][2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Decade_%28book%29
Historically the Germans have feared a strong Russia and have wanted to dominate Russia rather than work with her as a strategic partner. 1941 is still in living memory for Russians, and if they had any doubts about Germany’s agressive intent, then they only have to look at the leading role Germany played in the destruction of Yugoslavia to know what awaits Russia at the hands of the Germans.
There is already a de facto separation between Russia and the EU and it is more likely to strengthen than to disappear. We may have reached the high-point in Russian-EU trade, in which case Russia should look to China and the BRICS for its future prosperity.
If Russia protects the Russian population of the Ukraine and reinforces its position on the Black Sea by helping Novorossia caputure the entire Ukrainian coastline, then I think it will have done as much as it can in the Ukraine. The loss of the southern and eastern industrial regions of the Ukraine will leave the rump-Banderistan bankrupt and in turmoil.
An alliance with the Germans, even if they could be trusted, would still leave Poland, the Balts, Bulgaria and Baderistan under American control.
“Historically the Germans have feared a strong Russia and have wanted to dominate Russia rather than work with her as a strategic partner.”
You’ve obviously never heard of Bismarck, who did consider Russia the most important strategic partner, and by the way founded the German Reich. You also seem to oblivious to the fact that defeated Germany and Soviet Russia, much to the dislike of the Western victors, struck a partnership agreement in Rapallo in 1922. It must also have escaped you that Gerhard Schröder, whom you might at least remember, did consider Russia as – what? – a strategic partner! Then the US occupation media replaced him with Merkel, and the bitch rolled back into transatlantic party line.
You can’t reduce DE/RU history to 1941-45. That was precisely the war the Anglos wanted to fight.
Lumi is right. German-Russian relations were great until 1872 (near the birth of the German Empire) to 1907 when Russia formed the Triple Entente in 1907 with Britain and France. It was Nicholas II of Russia who decided to break the alliance with Germany to ally Britain and France. The burden rests purely on his shoulders IMO, and not on that of Germany or Russia. Nicholas Romanov II was terribly naiive.
re: George Friedman at the Chicago Club: Thank you Saker. Anyone who does not admit to the existence of evil at the highest levels of the anglo Zionist Empire ( by the way is this Friedman creature a dual citizen of US-Israel as many of the top advisors/leaders are?) has to see this performance. He is a cynical, arrogant con man acting like he is giving you the real scoop.
Satan is essentially a lying liar. His ultimate lie is ” we don’t want to kill you ( Russia) we just want to hurt you a bit” ( then he snorts and stifles a giggle==so much for Turks who giggle). It is clear that Jerkle Merkel is an asset of theirs but one who does not control the German game; however, she can delay things enough to give them time to, they think, erode the foundations under and around Russia.
Well as they say on the tough streets of life: “homie don’t play that game.” It isn’t just the Germans that are the known unknown but the Russians whom he so cavalierly discounts ( with his snorting giggle–a vile creature existing under the cover of urbanity)
“He is a cynical, arrogant con man acting like he is giving you the real scoop.”
I agree 100 % to this. A while ago, I listened to the entire talk (about one hour, also on Youtube), and he just paints a picture of Europe to suit his narrative, full of falsehoods. His only interest is how to play various nations against each other, so there will be war, which he loves, not peace, which he hates. A liar and manipulator. A deeply vicious creature.
Eimar: This is a shilling technique. It is meant to be a thought and time sink for readers, so they’ll eventually lose patience with the site and stop reading. Read up about shilling techniques here:
It is one shilling technique, but not the only one.
The key to evaluation is whether this particular technique is being used in this particular instance.
The key to whether this particular technique is being used in this instance is in the utility subset of purpose.
Evaluation of utility depends on an evaluation of means and where to implement them, including their potential for conditioning ends.
An evaluation of this blog over about 15 months shows a relatively consistent blindness to the hypotheses outlined above to Eimar.
This blog also shows a relatively consistent ideological immersion primarily contingent upon the notion of exceptionalism – of the US and others. This can lead to various outcomes including over-estimation of the agency, facilities and degrees of freedom of the opponents.
Consequently informed judgement would suggest that shilling is not necessary, and that those who shill are neither informed nor have the relevant level of expertise. Shilling is more likely an indicator of “desperation”.
Some previously were of the view that the opponents are/were masters in information,.
However as analysis of their information output and techniques used show an increasing oscillation which is sometimes a pre- indicator of collapse.
For those seeking to add additional context to Mr. Escobar’s report of a visit to Donentsk, perhaps it should be remembered that Mr. Ginsburg’s howl include roughly the following line –
a) the current situation is not an abstraction. It is real.
and
b) I am not a member of the RAND cult.
PS. Since you’re so keen on MANOVAs, you would do well to consider a) validity and b) reliability. You might make something approaching a ‘useful’ contribution then.
You might also consider that ‘utility’ is a function of perspective: what is useful to one, may be useless to another. Failure to understand this makes you as ‘ideologically immersed ‘ as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here.
@Lumi:
Thanks. Will check out the link later. I’ll spare you a ‘utility function’ assessment …;)
“You might also consider that ‘utility’ is a function of perspective: what is useful to one, may be useless to another. Failure to understand this makes you as ‘ideologically immersed ‘ as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here. ”
Why presume I don’t consider/understand that utility is a function of perspective which in part is a function of purpose?
You may also presume that I am operating in a binary linear paradigm.
To reprise :
“Since you appear to accept that they are generally true why not use that understanding to evaluate all contributions in this blog.”
Evaluation of purpose also contains an aspect of ability/opportunity to activate – a feedback opportunity if you prefer.
Some posit that the blindest are those who only see their own projections, as in holograms.
Some use this knowledge to encourage confirmation bias.
It would appear that you tend towards the opponents ideologies and practices by subsuming that knowledge is always a tool of bludgeoning, that knowledge is private property, that knowledge is always shared for reasons of ego including attribution, and hence you expose your weaknesses by statements such as “as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here. ” giving a useful advantage to any opponent.
Ideology seeks immersion and when you come out of the swimming pool you still carry water.
Some posit that if you don’t dry yourself you may be prone to diseases.
With such a “perception” you may understand that your most dangerous opponent is oftentimes yourself.
“the current situation is not an abstraction. It is real.”
You appear to fail to understand that the current situation is a lateral function of the past in its interactive complex, and within these degrees of freedom/opportunities many have been encouaging lateral strategies of challenge well before the “current”.
These challenges are/were not abstractions, and are/were implemented in the “real”.
Activism without knowledge often does not end well – consult Sun Tsu, hopefully understanding that Sun Tsu died a while back and hence in some regards his notions have been improved upon in the interim.
I note that you also appear to reflect notions of exceptionalism by restricting the perception of purpose afforded by using the opportunity to broadcast information contingent upon your remarks, to address you or even restricting this to readers of this blog.
I just finished reading that — very interesting.
It referred to http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/putins-philosophy/ and that’s decent too, with the following quote:
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Like Stolypin and the Vekhi contributors, Ilyin believed that the source of Russia’s problems was an insufficiently developed “legal consciousness” (pravosoznanie). Given this, democracy was not a suitable form of government. He wrote that “at the head of the state there must be a single will.” Russia needed a “united and strong state power, dictatorial in the scope of its powers.” At the same time, there must be clear limits to these powers. The ruler must have popular support; organs of the state must be responsible and accountable; the principle of legality must be preserved and all persons must be equal under the law. Freedom of conscience, speech, and assembly must be guaranteed. Private property should be sacrosanct. Ilyin believed that the state should be supreme in those areas in which it had competence, but should stay entirely out of those areas in which it did not, such as private life and religion. Totalitarianism, he said, was “godless.”
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I could pick some bones with it, such as defining ‘private property’ — does it include means of production and the commons? , and I don’t have access to what Ilyan wrote — but the bit about sufficiently developed to run a democracy is important.
Not sure about Russia now, but I suspect USA people have generally been dumbed down and brainwashed to the point (of perhaps no return) so they are far to ignorant, and incurious, to run a democratic nation themselves. I expect that when they have had enough and revolt the result will be chaos and tyranny. So far Donbas looks like its much better prepared for democracy.
As historian Carroll Quigley explained, in
1891, three British elites met with the intent to create a secret society. The three men were Cecil Rhodes, William T. Stead, a prominent journalist of the day, and Reginald Baliol Brett, a “friend and confidant of Queen Victoria, and later to be the most influential adviser of King Edward VII and King George V.” Within this secret society, “real power was to be exercised by the leader, and a ‘Junta of Three.’ The leader was to be Rhodes, and the Junta was to be Stead, Brett, and Alfred Milner.”[5]In 1901, Rhodes chose Milner as his successor within the society, of which the purpose was:The extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom and of colonization by British subjects of all lands wherein the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labor, and enterprise… [with] the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of a British Empire, the consolidation of the whole Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial Representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire, and finally the foundation of so great a power as to hereafter render wars impossible and promote the best interests of humanity.[6]Essentially, it outlined a British-led cosmopolitical world order, one global system of governance under British hegemony. Among key players within this group were the Rothschilds and other leading banking interests.[7]
“has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records.” By carrol Quigley .===================================================Americans and british are running Afghanistan opium trade and London is the centre of money laundering.
English duplicity in first world war against supposedly ally like Russia.
Before the battle of “Gallipoli”.
Quote “If Russia threw in the towel, Britain and France faced disaster. This was not part of the grand strategy envisaged by the Secret Elite. The possibility of a victorious German army switching from the Eastern to the Western Front sent shivers down the spine of Whitehall. London became preoccupied with the need to support an increasingly reluctant Russia to hold fast to the war.”
——-“Indeed, two centuries of relentless insistence that Russia had to be kept out of Constantinople underpinned the fact that in truth, ‘the Allies would try anything to stop Russia gaining Istanbul and the Bosphorus.’”
—- “The annual Guildhall Banquet which the City of London lavished on its political leaders on Monday 9 November reached truly iconic status in terms of British duplicity. Churchill promised that a blockade would bring Germany to her knees in six, nine or twelve months, and promptly failed to take the action required. Kitchener announced that ‘the men are responding splendidly…but I shall want more’, but Prime Minister Asquith told the greatest lie. He claimed that, despite all his government’s efforts to safeguard Turkish neutrality, ‘it is they and not we who have wrung the death-knell of Ottoman dominion, not only in Europe, but also in Asia. The Turkish Empire has committed suicide and dug its grave with its own hand.’ [4] No Russian Imperialist could have said it better. The Ottoman empire was scheduled for demolition. [5] It would be torn apart under the guise of suicide.
Count_BenckendorffIn November 1914 Russian Foreign Secretary Sazonov notified Count Benckendorff, his Ambassador in London, that Russian troops operating against Turkey would be compelled to violate Persian neutrality. Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey immediately issued a ‘hands off’ dictum stating that a Russian incursion into the neutral Moslem country would provoke anti-Entente ferment among the Mohammedans of the East. Just two days later Britain landed her own troops at the head of the Persian Gulf. They occupied the oilfields near Ahwaz, and advanced on the Turkish town of Basra, capturing it on 22 November. [6] Apparently a Russian invasion of Persia would excite religious tensions among Muslims, but a British attack was perfectly acceptable. The hypocrisy was stunning.”—from https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com
NATO website contains the text of a speech of then Secretary General of the bloc, Manfred Worner, in Brussels on May 17, 1990:
“In the closing days of WW II, Winston Churchill came up with a bizarre plan for a joint British-American attack on the USSR. When told the Russians would bombard the UK on a massive scale, the British PM quietly backed off.”
Wing-Commander Sir Arthur Harris (later Bomber Harris, head of wartime Bomber Command) was happy to emphasise that *The Arab and Kurd now know what real bombing means in casualties and damage. Within forty-five minutes a full-size village can be practically wiped out and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured.*
“I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.” — Winston Churchill 1920
So the cordon sanitaire can be seen to entomb Germany as well as to block Russia. All the countries within the boundaries rely on Russian energy. They will become impoverished in due course, and will become an unstable colonial zone while watching Eurasia develop nearby.
The only way that zone works is if it is at war with Russia. Old time war, not nuclear war. But of course, such wars will not be fought with Russia any longer. Moscow’s military doctrine has changed. Russia will use tactical nukes to stop such aggression. And Russia will not fight outside its own land mass. We see its tactics in Ukraine. The periphery can be supplied by voentorg and Russian-speaker/Slavs will fight to preserve Russia.
The military component of the US strategy will be thwarted by the reality of Russian doctrine.
The card, not a wild card, in all this is China.
China has investments, deals and aspirations with and in Europe. China will be decisive. Not directly, not militarily, but by force of nature (the natural evolution of its economic strength and willingness to cooperate with all of Europe.)
Nothing the US contrives can work, nor can it last. Forward positioning of steel (armor) or planes merely makes the zone target rich for Russian munitions.
Using Eastern Europe as a zone requires energy, food, infrastructure development and social control. In the short term, Ukraine cost $5 Billion to manipulate and ready it for war. Another $10-40 Billion has been pumped in or extracted into the war regime. It is now fragile, 100% dependent and could soon collapse.
Imagine the costs to accomplish this cordon sanitaire. Most empires fall in the colonial zones and then contagion of the bad economics infects the motherland of the empire.
The US would need another million boots on the ground to enforce this zone. The dislocation and costs are stupendous.
These hegemonic concepts are a great sign. They are the end signs of the Hegemon.
We see with China’s rise as the economic power and with its strategic partnership with Russia that the counter-balance to any more hegemonic movement of the US will be blunted by the avarice of its vassals. Look at Britain, imbedded with the RMB/yuan. Look at all the European nations who are flocking to the AIIB. Eurasia is a siren for corporations looking for developing markets. No market could be bigger than Eurasia. The vassals want a piece of the action.
And the military giant in the middle of Eurasia is Russia.
It is a defensive military, built, trained and ready by history and leadership to defend.
So, the US needs Ukraine inside its zone for it to work. This will never happen. Ukraine will remain unstable if not calm and neutral.
Thus, the Hegemon, as always, can only harm its vassals with this strategy. It cannot succeed.
A flawed strategy, a weakened Hegemon, and time and resources wasted.
They will try this all along the perimeter of Russia, the southern belly (Central Asia) and even in the Arctic with the Scandinavians, Canada and Japan. But they are already far too late to react. Russia has its military buildup in all these regions.
The Hegemon’s use of terrorists against Russia and China will be blunted with SCO, which is expanding this year with India, Pakistan and Iran coming on board.
If you look at the available forces the Hegemon has versus the armies of the New Free World (Russia and China) and its close partnerships, the forces are with the New Free World.
North Korea and Iran have five or six million men in uniforms. They would join any Hegemonic war as allies of the New Free World.
Anyone can see that containment and war are no longer viable options for hegemony. Most importantly, the nuclear doctrine of first use of tactical nukes by Russia is the game-changer.
What is left are many years of chaos-making, color revolution attempts, some flareup conflicts and events (false flags and otherwise). All manageable by the New Free World.
Meanwhile, the clash of civilizations will be the essence of the global struggle. Values versus Liberal degeneracy will crystalize. The New Free World, its Eurasia project, will stand in stark contrast to the fascism, greed and demonic behavior of the Hegemon.
Seemed rather pathetic to me. Friedman is a typical general who is fighting the last war. Seeing Russia and Germany as the main threat to the US – at a time that much bigger countries are rising up – is an anachronism. In contrast to what he said both the British empire and the Roman empire occupied huge territories. That was the basis of their empire, not divide-and-rule.
Crucial to those empires was also that people accepted them. Someone has to be the cop of the world – so why not the British (or whoever). That was also how the British conquered India. Initially they were for the Indians just another foreigner dominated empire – just like the Mughals. Only later – when the indians started to expect more from their government – did they start to question to British.
The US could stay relevant for quite some time if they resorted to being the world’s cop. It gives them not only military relevance but also domination of world finance. It is the manipulations that Friedman encourages that are robbing it of its relevance in those area’s. Maybe Friedman has forgotten that divide-and-conquer in the end sucked Britain into World War I – from which it never really recovered.
As for Russia, I think the best thing to do is lying low. Don’t make the error of the German emperor who at the eve of World War I suddenly found that he needed to have a navy.
british did nto conquer india-they inserted themselves first as small trader and then as small interfering nosey ba–strd in internal affairs of Indian rulers and then making one fight with another and only after 120 years of stay did they got whole of India.
Saudi’s kings are bandits of old ages they use to go on raids and british made them as kings.
Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels (terrorists) into Syria. They even asked me-dumas the ex FM of france.
august 2013.
“the source said the US and Britain are looking at the new Al-Qaeda force as an instrument to attain their goals and do not intend to support them to ascend to power, “because if Salafi elements in Syria ascend to power, they will create many problems for the US, the Western states and Turkey in future”.
“Thus, the US, Britain and Turkey are looking at the Al-Qaeda as a tactical instrument,” he said, and warned of the regional and global repercussions of the US and Turkish aid to the Al-Qaeda and Salafi groups.
“Unfortunately, these group of countries have just focused on the short-term benefits that the Salafis and the Al-Qaeda can provide for them and ignore the perils of this support in the long run,” he said.
“At present, the western countries, specially Britain which hosts and controls the Jihadi Salafi groups throughout the world are paving the ground for these extremists to leave their homes – mostly in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as well as those who live in Europe and the US – for Waziristan,” the source added.
Interviewer: Is there a way of circumventing that?
Snowden: As a general rule, so long as you have any choice at all, you should never route through or peer with the UK under any circumstances. Their fibers are radioactive, and even the Queen’s selfies to the pool boy get logged.
Do private companies help the NSA?
Snowden: Yes.
As a general rule, BRITISH AND US-based multinationals should not be trusted until they prove otherwise.
Snowden: In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners 4 go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK’s GCHQ.
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
Dumas went on give the audience a quick lesson on the real reason for the war that has now claimed the lives of tens of thousands of people.
‘’This operation goes way back. It was prepared, preconceived and planned in London.
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“More relevant to Russia was a 2002 covert operation in Azerbaijan, a classic exercise in deep politics. There former CIA operatives, employed by a dubious oil firm (MEGA Oil), “engaged in military training, passed ‘brown bags filled with cash’ to members of the government, and set up an airline…which soon was picking up hundreds of mujahideen mercenaries in Afghanistan.” [23] These mercenaries, eventually said to number 2000, were initially used to combat Russian-backed Armenian forces in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh; but they also backed Muslim fighters in Chechnya and Dagestan. They also contributed to the establishment of Baku as a transshipment point for Afghan heroin to both the Russian urban market and also the Chechen mafia. [24]
In 1993 they also contributed to the ouster of Azerbaijan’s elected first president, Abulfaz Elchibey, and his replacement by Heidar Aliyev, who then agreed to a major oil contract with BP, including what eventually became the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline to Turkey. Note that the U.S. background of the MEGA Oil operatives is unmistakable. However who financed MEGA is unclear; and may have been the oil majors, many of which have or have had their own covert services. [25] There are allegations that major oil corporations, including Exxon and Mobil as well as BP, were “behind the coup d’état” replacing Elchibey with Aliyev. [26]
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“As far as I can tell from my many media interviews with the Russian media, there is no Russian awareness of the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Russians think that there is some kind of misunderstanding about Russian intentions. The Russian media does not understand that Russia is unacceptable, because Russia is not a US vassal. Russians believe all the Western bullshit about “freedom and democracy” and believe that they are short on both but making progress. In other words, Russians have no idea that they are targeted for destruction. —If the Russians and Chinese do not expect a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Washington, they will be destroyed.” By Paul Craig Roberts in saker interview on 24th of march 2015.
Putin’s letter to the Arab League to use dialogue not war to solve problems received a rebuke from Saudi Arabia.
No surprise.
But the issue in the Middle East is clarifying. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the cancerous tumors on the Sunni world. They want dominion over the region and influence through Wahhabism (terror) in Russia, China, North Africa and South Asia (Pakistan, Bangladesh).
Will the US fight and die for them?
The Saudis have always purchased their fighting forces. They rent armies. They did it against Saddam. They bought the US and the Gulf War coalition.
Now, will they do it again?
However, this time there is Russia and China in the mix.
Iran has much at stake in Yemen. It may turn into another long Yemeni war. They have had them before.
What is interesting is that war itself has changed. Only air war is feasible for the US and its proxies. Or naval war/blockade of Iranian supplies to its Yemeni allies.
You can see photos today of China’s ship taking 450 Chinese citizens out of Yemen. China has warships in the Gulf of Aden and Red Sea for UN anti-piracy. But they could also wedge against US naval power. The US will not want to start a war with China over a proxy war in Yemen.
Putin also stated he was ready to help Palestine achieve statehood. This,again, is diplomatic work and not military help. But it forces a new dynamic.
Russia and China are challenging the old order everywhere.
The US isn’t interested in Ukraine itself, only what it can accomplish through Ukraine. Look at all the old worn out equipment that was sitting in Iraq and Pakistan that the US did not even want back. They sold all that to Latvia on credit. They will sell to Poland, Latvia and any number of banana republic. They will use that debt to manipulate these countries trade and political policies. In effect grabbing multiple votes within the EU and no real cost to them. This is old equipment, most of it worn out…
The gentleman’s name is Friedman not “Freeman.” (Freid could translate to “free”, but Fried would translate to “peace.”) He has an interesting biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman
After November -9 -1989 , the day the Berlin-Wall fell down , Alfred Herrhausen a few days later went to a trip to USA for a speech in Front of one of the big “Think-tanks”.
He spoke about the urge to produce a “Glasnost” also in the Capitalist -World for making international finance more transparent , including a condonation of third-world depts.
One of his visions was a reunificated Germany and her new role in the European Continent , and as a possible hinge for cooperation with Russia.
At November -30 -1989 , three weeks after the fall of the Wall. Alfred Herrhausen died from a terrorist bomb attack , presumably from the “Red-Army-Fraction”. The case is still open and without a suspect.
Mr.George Friedman for me is one of the possible instigators of Herrhausen´s assasination .
He was then chairman of Deutsche Bank and a top advisor of then chancellor Helmut Kohl. Most of the official RAF terrorist story is nonsense, just like the Brigate Rosse in Italy. Behind these “terrorists” there is the hand of the Anglo puppeteer.
What Herrhausen naively outlined to the US elite is exactly what they are hell-bent on preventing, i.e. Eurasion integration. So they assassinated him. And Detlev Carsten Rohwedder, too.
Engdahl deals with this in “A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order”, at least in the German edition.
Stationing US/NATO troops to create a “cordon sanitaire” has no practical military value, as a) Russia has no intention of invading or attacking those countries, and b) US/NATO has no intention of invading or attacking Russia, and c) even if a and b were false, Russia could apply overwhelming military force.
The intent of these moves (and statements) by the US/NATO military and political leaders is primarily political and psychological, to raise fear and tension without crossing the line to overt military action. This is an extremely dangerous game which Russia is also playing in reaction to US/NATO provocations.
But also economical, don’t you think? Pipelines, high-speed train links, energy safety, investment safety … People don’t invest in a potential conflict zone, where their investment may be wiped away, or stolen.
Viwetnam Vet, that makes sense, except that I don’t even think its that dangerous. Basically the States has decided to back off Ukraine. Good. Now they are going backwards bravely.
“Basically the States has decided to back off Ukraine” – I don’t agree. A “battalion-minus” of the 173rd Airborne Division is being dispatched to train Kiev “national guard” militias (including the neo-Nazis?) in early April, and weapons are being shipped directly from the US to Kiev (in addition to those already being “covertly” supplied).
and Lumi – yes economic pressure as well, in my mind politics and economics are the same thing.
lumi said -quote “quote “The Anglo interest is to keep the peoples of Europe at each other’s throat. That is, at war with each other,”
Exactly.
As early as in 1949 the first NATO Secretary General, british Lord Ismay, candidly admitted that NATO’s true goal was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”
USA does not need NATO it was created by one nation and for the benefit of one nation only to create havoc in Europe on strength of American arms but crookedness of someone else-
you hear that from the horse’s mouth of the people who created NATO and are still controlling it to wage wars on the nations it does not like -which is all of the world except evil 5.spies.
There is a confusion among many that USA uses
Nato exert her influence in Europe. In fact USA does not need nato . But that entity
is needed by a third rate country which after second world war found herself
without real power so nato was created by that country to keep Germans down and
Russians out using American arms and
money.. Since early 90s that same country maneuvered to keep Nato alive and
install her stooges in European commission like british spy barrasso and English witch catherine
ashton and many more inside European bureaucracy to make Europe follow one and only one policy
to be dictated by that same country.
Name of the evil country? Of course it is
england .
Mr Friedman is talking about “throwing out of balance”. How about them balance now: Crimea is now an unsinkable aircraft carrier and the remaining of the Nazi project Ukraine is in turmoil and the Empire is forced to fork out everything themselves as the second-best military in Europe, Ukraine’s, lays in agony and dying. How about them apples!
Mr. Friedman seems to have some concern, though, that the Russians, “the poorer they are…they fight better.” However, he remains optimistic about the chance that in a couple of years, “the Russians are toast.”
Valuable insight into the thinking of the smartest men of the Empire.
Great interview, shows how arrogant the US establishment is. Hopefully a lot of Germans who watched this will know what to do in next election: pick someone more sensible, and do what the Empire of Chaos fear most – partner closely with Russia!
US ruling the oceans? Great for subduing the natives in far flung parts of the empire.
China building an island in the South China sea – install a few hypersonic missiles and China will rule the seas in a 1500km radius.
Friedman is a TOTAL idiot and just makes s— up. But it sells, because of this self-perpetuating myth that he has some great insider connections with the CIA and knows what’s really going on.
I just watched the video now. Folks, this must be clearest example of psychopathy, feigned hubris and fakery all rolled up into one individual trying desperately to prove what a superior and all knowing being he is while inadvertently conveying just the opposite. (God-Complex perhaps? Or does he act that way because he thinks he belongs to a special chosen elite?)
This guy Friedman comes across as a fraud, he tries too hard to make himself look more important than he is, using big words incorrectly (“primordial” ? ROFL!) to make himself and his arguments sound more intelligent than they really are. And his responses are filled with BS cliches like: “German Technology” -oh really ? Like German technology is of any real consequence today (it isn’t anymore) – this (“German technology”) is a marketing cliche, even a US Congressional report, from the late 1990s, states that the US, Japan and Russia will hold a lead in “ultra-high” technology into the first quarter of the next century (which is now). No mention of the much overblown “German technology” in that Congressional report.
Secondly he mentions German Capital, again, a load of horseshit when we live in a world of Fiat Euros, the real wealth lies in Russia with its massive tangible assets (ie 15% of the world’s landmass and real natural resources coupled with the means to extract them). And if immediate fiat Capital is so important, then China’s $4-Trillion foreign reserves is far more significant than anything the sickly EU can field.
Thirdly he mentions the cliche Russian manpower (maybe he’s confusing Russia with the 350Million person Soviet Union). This guy Friedman seems to forget that the EU’s 550Million population has a labor- force that dwarfs Russia’s labor-force in terms of size and is equal in terms of education and skills (Russia’s total population is less than 200Million). The EU or Germany does not need Russia for Russia’s manpower, not when Germany has the rest of the EU states as it’s vassal labor force – another provable lie flogged by Friedman.
The only somewhat accurate thing this con-Man, Friedman, said is that it is a goal of the United States to put a wedge between Europe and Russia (a goal they have successfully met), as well as the general divide and ruin policy the British foisted on Europe – the rest of his presentation is puffery.
I think the US plotocrats have decided that Russia is too strong at the moment and could not be broken using their usual bag of tricks. So, they opted for the next best achievable goal…
Freadman said that USA have been prepositioning military hardware in the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and Bulgaria outside of the context of NATO. In a nutshell, this means these countries are now being quietly occupied by the US military, and quite possibly some of these countries are not even aware of it (well, the puppets there most likely know it very well).
The cordon the US are now forming has a sole purpose of dividing the European continent in half, with the added bonus of weakening Germany by preventing its access to the eastern markets. Remember what happened just before the end of WW2.
The discussion the westerna allies had was whether Germany should be forcibly deindustrialised and turned into an agricultural society. Now, with Germany undecided and a potential threat to US interests should it decide to turn toward east, the deindustrialisation plans are being dusted off. And if Germany is gone as an industrial power, the rest of the western Europe will follow. In essence, USA is turning the western Europe into a feudal colony.
During the last 25 years US think-tanks have become an echo-chamber for Khazarian-Mafia talking points of Empire and Hegemony. The bolshevik-trash that washed-up on American shores in the 20th century co-opted every podium. Problem is the hegemon they created is crumbling within. Friedman may talk-the-talk — but he knows more-and-more Americans will no longer walk-his-walk. Increasingly his views are seen by average decent citizens as a craven view of humanity. The worm has turned. And Americans are rubbing the sleep from their tired little eyes and see they are as expendable to Friedman as Russians, Germans, Ukrainians, Poles — all except his KM tribe.
The biggest problem facing the America hegemon is the rapid loss of participation in the nations economic and social community. Participation is critical to the wellbeing of a nation. It’s the basis of national identity. Beliefs are formed through participation. It’s the glue that holds us together. And it’s measured through voting and spending and taxes. They don’t need us to vote anymore. Elections are rigged. And they don’t need our money. Cause the 1% prints what it needs. Our taxes can’t possibly cover the wars and covert operations. Credibility and power is derived from conscious participation in the system. And they’re losing it. Faster than they believed possible. Perhaps they’ll create another BIG event to re-engage conscious participation. They haven’t yet accepted they’ve lost us. That we’re over them. But VV Putin knows it. And he’s acting like a man who isn’t afraid to wait.
Since a couple of years the US dollar is at risk of imploding basically on hour by hour basis. And it will. From that point on, events will unfold very quickly.
Not that the Netanyahus, Kolomoiskys, Soroses und Friedmans will stop their ludicrous, vile monologues, how could they? But there won’t be any cameras around anymore and the microphones will be turned off.
This man is a prime example of the psychopaths who run our world. The United States was never set up as an empire. The United States is only in name. In fact it has been slowly but surely taken over by the same group (their descendants) that took over Russia the Bolsheviks, today they are better known as the Kazarian Syndicate. They did 911 in order to start world war three. Israel is their home base nation but they have made such drastic inroads to the USA that now it is there center of operation. They have eradicated our constitutional freedoms and have turned America into a Soviet police state. They destroy every country they take over, and if these criminals are not stopped they will start WWIII potentially destroying life on planet Earth. Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are not!
In my opinion, this is the most sincere geopolitical analysis/confession of the U.S that i have ever heard or read in any book so far. It was absolutely brilliant!
Interesting talk, and enlightening about the neocon US justifications for US foreign policy and actions …..
.. and then he says ..(after saying that everything in Europe was going well..) “then Russia invaded Georgia … ” No mention of the US puppet, Sackarschwilli’s, attack on South Ossetia in the middle of the night with his US and Israeli trained forces, killing Russian peacekeepers.
.. which, of course, proves that he’s not interested in dealing with the truth regarding Russia, but wants to accuse Russia of acting outside acceptable norms of international behaviour ….
What EXTRAORDINARY HYPOCRISY from a US neocon, after the US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, etc .. all based on proven lies – invasions that were all, in fact, war crimes!
No he’s not dealing with facts, he’s spinning an anti-Russian narrative. He just sounds plausible, but he’s really an unrepentant neocon.
Dear Saker,
It is not all clear what the German position is. There are some voices in Germany who clearly acknowledges the fault of the west. But the vast majority seems to be of the view that we are right and Russia is wrong. This includes ordinary citizens as well. There is a clear trend of Germans totally ignoring the crimes of the Ukrainian junta and allowing them a free run. I am a bit suspicious about Merkel’s goal with the minsk-2. It is quite clear the ukrs have no intention to full fill the deal. Naming the east as occupied territories, not lifting the economic blockade etc are clear signs of violation of the deal. The declaration of the east as occupied territories was just 1 day after Poroshenkos visit to Germany where Germany wanted sanctions to be kept till the minsk deal is fulfilled. Recently, Dimitry yarosh was absorbed into the ministry of offence. At this point, the minsk deal seems a joke. So what did Germany or Merkel wanted in the first place. There is possibility that she just wanted to act like a peacemaker, while the true intention was just to make sure the sanctions continue for ever. May be they wanted it to take it slower than the Americans and wait till a more opportune moment to strike.
One thing is for sure: whatever Merkel and Hollande were trying to accomplish at Minsk was 100% coordinated with the U.S.
There is no way they were acting independently. No way! And I cannot believe the number of supposedly informed analyst that suggest otherwise.
One unmistakable proof France and Germany were not acting independently of Uncle Sam is the fact that neither their bonds nor their stock markets have been attacked in the last few weeks.
Anyway — still waiting for Russia to do something… anything…
So far the U.S. has won victory after victory (including turning Cuba for crying out loud) and they are about to check another one in Iran.
Why doesn’t Russia want Iran to have nuclear weapons, huh?
Can’t stand those pictures of Lavrov and Kerry laughing it out together…
Oh and Russia striking deals with visa and MasterCard, increasing its trade with the U.S. In 2014, making plans to build another space station with the U.S., Russia working closely with Exxon Mobile, and on and on…
I think we’ve all been taken for a ride. Putin is just like every other politician on this planet. Period.
Unfortunately agree Charlette.
In a recent thread I argued (based on larger wealth inequality in Russia cf west) that there is little to distinguish between the 2 “evil empires”.
I’m no longer sure that it isn’t just a single evil empire taking everyone else (99.99%) for a ride – I hadn’t realised Merkel was on the Gazprom board!
French political scientist (PhD) Pierre Hillard (his videos are often featured on Alain Soral’s website) has argued for over a decade now that Putin is part of the globalists.
I refused that argument all those years. These days I must say I wonder… the facts I listed above do not lie. They are not theories. They are FACTS.
So, what gives, huh?
The conclusion is that we are all under the same regime whenever we live and the people have no power, be they Americans (many of whom disagree with the system), Germans, French or Russians.
Charette (apologies for initial Charlette – embarassed),
I had pointed Ann at Cuba in that recent thread as a model of equality. I’m sad to hear your news, I was not aware of that.
Yes – the facts do seem to clear. To put hope in a man (Putin) in the the face of these does seem to be beyond futile. It does not seem logical why one set of oligarchs would be any less depraved than another.
In my opinion, by definition all Oligarch’s are evil – period.
Very despondent with this today.
No worries about the spelling.
And again, at this point I’m just asking questions. I do not know the answers for sure myself. I wish I did.
I just feel like something stinks in all this.
understood – same here.
PS:
I got it wrong Merkel => Schröder on Gazprom board.
@Charette;
“French political scientist (PhD) Pierre Hillard (his videos are often featured on Alain Soral’s website) has argued for over a decade now that Putin is part of the globalists.”
And there are others in the US as well, who believe that Putin is a globalist. One of them is an economist. This same economist also points out that the Chinese have been buying US real estate at a dizzying pace;
“China has recently purchased the JP Morgan building in Manhattan for $725 million. One could reason that they have in fact purchased all of JP Morgan. And I’m sure it will soon be announced that China has or is in the process of purchasing other Western banks and physical assets. These banks make up the majority owners of the Federal Reserve. ” ( http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2014/01/16/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve/ )
The author of that article goes on to say;
“The system of debt based money creation of the Western world is dead. It’s over. The shift East is in the final stages of completion.
Obama’s so called “pivot east” is less about positioning assets to counter the stirring of the eastern dragon, and more to do with making those military assets easy to confiscate when the terminal day arrives. ”
So, not only Russia is making deals with Visa and MasterCard and increasing trade with the US, but China is doing so as well. Nothing is as it seems on the surface and it makes one wonder if the whole “East/West conflict” business is simply a charade to hide something else. But what could be going on?
J.C. Collins (the author of the article that I quoted above) claims that China and “other countries” of the world are taking on US debt because the US defaulted on its debt back in October of 2013. Collins claims that “China, or the BRICS countries, and/or a consortium of international interests, most likely organized through the I.M.F., will manage the U.S. debt through exchange rate increases and trade tariffs.” And he goes on to say : “Why would China and other countries take on the risk of this debt? Simple, it’s economic reset or economic collapse. Its in the worlds interest to re-structure the U.S. debt to save the whole whale from beaching itself.”
How can you be so sure that “whatever Merkel and Hollande were trying to accomplish at Minsk was 100% coordinated with the U.S.”? Please share your insights, if any, into such coordination. I, for one, do not know whether it was coordinated or not. I do not think much of Merkel, but since Gauck is in office she’s not number one on my hate list any more. Yes, she’s been selected for office by the US, but she wouldn’t be the first puppet to eventually take on a life of her own. Consider that the US way is bad for Germany and the Russian way is promising … and, unlike you and me, German big business captains talk directly to Merkel.
One thing I’m certain of is Merkel won’t take Germany the way Sackarschwilli did with Georgia. :)
Also, the US doesn’t always “attack their bonds” or “their stock markets”. The US varies its game. Has it occurred to you that Franco-German Boeing competitor Airbus has been attacked last week? By a “pilot suicide”? Or, for the nitpickers, “copilot suicide”? Suicide my ass. The story is totally ridiculous.
Lastly, never lose faith in Vladimir Putin. Never, whatever happens, whatever the appearances. A true Führer, a great Führer. (For the politically correct: No offense intended.) I mean it! (Not putting a smilie here lest you doubt I really mean it.)
If Merkel and Hollande were being honest, why did they refuse to attend victory day in Russia? That would have been a great show of good faith.
Why hasn’t Hollande delivered the first Mistral ship? That would have been a nice show of good faith.
Finally, and I’ll repeat what I’ve said in my first post: every country that challenges the U.S. will find its bonds and stock markets under attack in short order. None of that has happened to France and Germany. It’s been quite the opposite actually.
“… every country that challenges the U.S. will find its bonds and stock markets under attack in short order …”
Regrettably, one might say, but in spite of all its present problems, the U.S. economy appears to be preponderant on our planet. George Friedman, for instance, claims at the beginning of his 2009 interview “The Next 100 Years: A forecast for the 21st century”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpAkT5YnpEA (part 1) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVSEAhvRD4 (part 2), that “the American economy is larger than the next four economies combined” and “constitutes between 25% and 30% of the world’s economic activity”; China’s economy, on the other hand, is one-fifth of the U.S. economy, etc. Then adds that “the United States Navy controls all the oceans of the world, something that no other state in the history of humanity has ever achieved”, and concludes that “it is very hard for another country to challenge the U.S. in all the dimensions in which it is powerful”. The interview also provides some of his global views on Russia, in particular at the beginning of its part 2.
[A natural thought while listening to all this appeared … “oh, so, that’s why Zionists presently consider the U.S. as their “safest bet””…]
China’s economy is most certainly not one fifth the size of the US economy. Depending how you measure, it may already be larger. Purchasing Power Parity, probably yes; GDP, no, not yet–but fairly soon if current growth trends for both continue.
However the two stack up overall, the US probably has more financial muscle and ability to deploy it. But on the other hand, China may have more actual productive capacity and almost certainly more ability to prod its economy into doing constructive things useful for nationbuilding projects.
Strong people never need to present that they are strong, because their actions will present the exact level who is stronger.
Only week people /nations / always has to stress “how strong they are” Listen to the last presentation of the Mr.Natanyaho in Chicago how many times he was stressing how strong and powerful they are……
I agree that the Airbus story is far fetched, but frankly I don’t think this would hurt the E.U.
So you don’t think “the Airbus story … would hurt the E.U.” But guess what, it killed 150 people.
And one more thing, Charette/Anonymous/Johan/George:
Your multi-personae pseudo-dialogue shill game is totally transparent.
Wrong again. And I’m Sure the webmaster could easily see the different IPs.
And i find it interesting that you had to latch onto the emotional aspect of the Airbus crash because you realized your argument was weak.
please all keep to the topic, no personal attacks
Trying hard in matters of shillery.
IP in Munich or are you using other techniques?
So Charette what you’re saying is that this whole Western demonizing of Putin is a charade, that he’s essentially on the same team and that this another case of a good-cop/bad-cop act (take your pick as to who plays the good-cop and who the bad-cop).
If we follow your line of reasoning then either Putin is being played or is knowingly playing along: every move the US has executed has only served to bolster Putin’s popularity and standing in Russia, the sanctions and EU-sponsored aggression in Ukraine have provided Putin with the political cover to re-structure the Russia economy along the exact lines the West has been urging Russia to do for years (diversify the Russian economy away from a single product (oil&gas) to multiple industries and services) and, ironically, along the exact lines that Putin and his team have wanted to do as well.
So….. based on your contention then this whole Ukraine thing, the sanctions and Syria were just pantomime and the real intent of the US-deep-state (and the global deep-state) was to:
– kick-start Russian economic restructuring,
– break Germany’s and the EU’s steady undermining of Russian industries (thru dumping of under-priced industrial goods),
– to halt Russian de-industrialization (driven by German malfeasance, and artificially high domestic interest rates set by the internationally controlled Russian Central Bank – interests that kept the ruble uncompetitively over-valued and prevented domestic financing of industrialization projects)
-to create patriotic fervor around Putin (so he can carry out painful economic changes)
-to solidly cleave/undermine EU influence within Russia by forcing the Russian masses to see the true closet-nazi nature of Brussels – thereby permanently discrediting and undermining the Euro-phile 5th-columnists “Russian-Liberals” (aka “Atlantic-Integrationists”) within Russia.
-to halt European/Russian Integration whereby Russia would inevitably become a de-industrialized resource-based economy almost entirely dependent of Germany and the EU for industial and technical inputs.
-to force the Russian establishment to look-east and dump Europe.
-all this to allow Russia to firmly become independent/self-sufficient enough to check/bracket Europe; i.e. to permanently crimp any chance of the EU ever becoming a Eurasian Superpower.
Don’t you think that’s a little far-fetched? Or do you think that it’s a realistic scenario? I’m not judging you, I’m simply asking you to consider the implications of your suspicion.
Listen, I’m not going to go over all those points, but yes, it all seems plausible to me in the grand scheme of things. For more on all you’ve listed, watch Pierre Hillard’s videos.
Again, I refused to believe it for as long as I could. And to a certain extent I still do. But it all seems plausible to me now. After all, Putin was hand picked by Washington’s Eltsine puppet himself, right? Well, for a long time I wanted to believe that Putin had screwed all of them. These days I think that maybe he’s been screwing all of us.
One thing to conclude… tiny Lybia and little old Iraq were about to throw a major monkey wrench in the dollar-system machine… that’s why they were destroyed (without Russia lifting a finger)… tiny Lybia and small Iraq were about to do that… But somehow giant, massive, powerful Russia can’t do that? They can’t REQUEST their natural resources be paid in anything but the dollar?
To Charette
I am sick and tired of anti-Putin trolls, and this site has been better than others. But here we go. In case you are not a troll, I will give you a piece of my mind.
You simply do not understand what kind of person Putin is and what he is trying to accomplish. Perhaps it is difficult without speaking Russian, and regularly watching his meeting with various people on Russian TV. He loves Russia. Period. He is trying to do the best for Russia, without jerky movements that may ruin everything. He says often to people that we need time to get stronger. He is right.
And Russian people trust him. I do too. Do you have better candidates to trust – but those who do not just blah-blah but take responsibility for their actions?
Oh so you are able to get yourself into other people’s hearts and minds? Good for you!
But I note that you did not tackle the FACTS that some of us have listed. Why don’t you leave personalities aside and discuss those FACTS?
Please explain to me the following:
-Why were Visa and Master Card allowed (again) to do business in Russia?
-Why did trade between Russian and the U.S. surge in 2014?
-Why did Exxon Mobile’s investments go up more than 300% in Russia in the last 12 months?
-Why would Russia agree to build another space station with the U.S.? Why not with China? (just looking for a valid answer, that’s all)
-Why does Russia negotiate with countries such as the U.S., France and the U.K. to prevent Iran from developing its nuclear program? How come Russia doesn’t want Iran to develop its nuclear program?
-Why hasn’t Russia done anything to REQUEST any currency OTHER than the dollar in exchange for its natural resources? (tiny Lybia and small Iraq were about to do that… how come mighty Russia can’t do it?)
-Etc…
Again, I’m just looking for logical answers to all this.
I don’t care about political celebrities.
Oh and what about this breaking news: Russia to offer gas discount to Ukraine.
And of course… the Kremlin “will not comment on the gas discount to Ukraine”.
That’s probably to thank them for the slaughter of all those ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
anon, there are people like Charette out there that think what she thinks…lots of them…but i agree with you anon…maybe its naive, but I’m hopin’….
Ann,
in a previous thread I asked you to look at Cuba as an example society – the last time I looked (a while ago now) you hadn’t replied.
I originally came to this site attracted to a knight in shining armour (Putin’s Russia).
Having looked at the evidence (especially the inequality in Russian society) my (current) conclusion is that:
I was naive
Russia does have one big benefit – it doesn’t invade other countries.
Other than that – it seems to be at best:
(i) as unfair a society as “the West”
at worst
(ii) ruled by an elite who are the other half of a bad cop / good cop routine.
He loves Rusia so much he presides over a wealth disparity of it’s people so wide it is greater than the great Satan- the West.
Exactly which part of Russia does he love?
I don’t think it is fair to scream shill whenever someone puts out a comment you don’t agree with.
I have been thinking along the same lines as Charette recently, aided by the writing on the blog redefininggod. Some very interesting writing on how we are all being played for mugs.
Excellent, these people are trying to equal the victim ( Russia ) and the aggressor USA & her vassals.
No. Not at all. Not equating Russia and the U.S. at all. I’m talking about POLITICIANS!
Interesting article here on Putin’s ‘philosophical’ background.
russialist.org/paul-grenier-a-conservative-russia-this-means-war-the-tragedy-of-american-ideology/
“given that his enemies are sprouting like mushrooms near his front door.”
In various places including Russia people pick wild mushrooms.
To pick sucessfully the mushrooms need to sprout, and the picker needs to establish location, establish which mushrooms are safe to pick, and implement relevant picking/storing methods..
Some mushrooms can be picked and other mushrooms are best left in the ground.
Perhaps your estimation of size and location of the mushroom crop is misguided.
Putin is a (powerful) man in the centre of an array of mind boggling oligarchical wealth. He looks after that wealth (demonstrated by Russian inequality) – or he wouldn’t be where he is…unless, of course, he has mystical powers?
Now, if that were true I could maybe enter the wonderland of a “just” opposition to the “western empire”
Is there any evidence that he has some?
You are sadly uninformed, understand little of Russia’s economic position in the face of sanctions, lack an understanding of diplomatic protocols and feel resentful because the US and its vassals aren’t getting the kicking from Russia you’d like to see them get.
You are looking for a hero in a fantasy world. Grow up and learn from the master before you rush to naive conclusions.
Ha ha ha! Diplomatic protocols… ha ha ha… like the ones every other country violates all the time?
Please answer the questions above…
Even a pathetic buffoon like Hollande knows he can throw up all over an official contract bound by international law and there’s nothing Putin will do about it.
Good grief! A couple months ago Tass had that article about how difficult it would be for Russia to ban Hollywood crap. Man! They can’t even do that!!!
What now, is Hollywood crap a necessity in every day Russian life? Life would end without it?
Charette what do you expect Putin to do, after Hollande throws up all over international law ? bring out the brigade ??? get real
anon, its alot easier to follow the discourse if you put the name of the person you’re talking to at the beginning of your rant. thanks.
Some posit that the blindest are those who only “see” their own projections, as in holograms.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-empire-of-chaos/5439725
For those seeking to add additional context to Mr. Escobars visit to Donentsk, perhaps for fuller understand it should be remembered that Mr. Ginsburg’s howl include roughly the following line –
America go f**k yourself with your atomic bomb.
Charette, I agree with your basic premise and have made comments to that effect on other posts, in both the context of international relations and U.S. domestic policy. I do believe that there’s an international privileged class, the global “one percent,” if you will, that has no national allegiance and that is carving up the pie among themselves.
However, you are making a couple of errors, which is why some of those responding to your comment are able to pick apart your argument.
First, when you say that Merkel and Hollande coordinated 100 percent with the U.S., you are making a false presumption that there is one “U.S.” In fact, there are competing factions, which is one of the reasons the Russians are so frustrated. They can make an agreement and think everything is settled, only to find out that it was overruled or changed somewhere in the chain of command. This confusion is partly due to holdovers in the State Department with ties to Bush and Cheney, Victoria Nuland being one of the most visible. You might recall a recent story in the German media about Nuland throwing a hissy fit about Merkel’s “Moscow thing.” Her views are not universally accepted within the Obama administration, whatever they might say in public. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/
While there is no essential difference between Republicans and Democrats anymore, there are competing factions for the 2016 presidential nomination. Hillary is a lightning rod within her own party. I read somewhere that Kerry does NOT want her to be president. Meanwhile, she and Bill have a lot of rich foreign friends who are contributing to her campaign fund, many of them in Ukraine. You can bet that backroom deals already are being made, especially since Ukraine is about to be sold off to foreign investors. Who’s promising what to whom, and how might that be messing with a negotiated settlement?
One thing the various U.S. factions can agree on is opening markets to Western corporations. USAID’s basic mission is to clear the way, even if it takes years of patiently nurturing “democracy” and “human rights.” That said, many of the world’s largest companies have operations in Russia, so it’s not quite correct to point to ExxonMobil as proof of U.S.-Russian cooperation. First, the large multinationals may be based in a particular country, but they owe no allegiance. I recently read a reference to them as “supranationals,” which is more accurate. Second, there is aggressive competition between the supranationals for big contracts in foreign countries. ExxonMobil competes with Chevron, BP, and many others that, again, are not there to represent their home countries but for the profits. Also don’t forget the financiers. JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and CitiBank operate in Russia, as do Barclay’s, HSBC, Deutsche Bank; the list goes on.
A quick Google search will show that the deal with Iran may be more about dropping sanctions so that Western companies will have another market to exploit. If I had to guess why Kerry and Lavrov are laughing, it’s probably because Russian businesses also will get a piece of the action, and the politicians will be rewarded for their “service.” Snark aside, they have spent a lot of time working together and apparently are on friendly terms. Is that so bad?
Still, I agree that the cozy business deals suggest there’s another world with different rules for the wealthy few, and we aren’t supposed to see it. Otherwise we wouldn’t foot the bill or agree to die for the “cause.” The elites are not politely negotiating the pie; they’re fighting each other for it, much like the colonial powers fought wars over control of wealth and resources. The thing is, a lot of their activity is public and there for anyone to see if they didn’t allow the magicians to redirect their attention. This is one of the reasons I tell people to ignore headlines screaming that so-and-so politician made an [outrageous, aggressive, fill in the blank] statement. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
As for Mr. Putin, it’s probably true that he has enriched himself as a result of his position and that his motives aren’t entirely selfless. But I don’t know why we should expect them to be. It seems that some folks have a psychotic need to believe that the side they’re on is “right and good” and that all the propaganda, lies, theft, war crimes, and dirty tricks are on the other, “evil” side. If one of their heroes gets caught, it must be a frame-up or a false flag.
I choose the side of Putin and Russia not because they are “good,” but because there needs to be a restoration of the global balance of power. Since 1989, there has been only one superpower, with disastrous consequences for the planet and the majority of its inhabitants. Eventually the BRICS or some variation might rise to provide the counterweight, but right now, Putin is it. Whatever he may be doing in private, he’s shown himself to be more mature, wiser, and more sane than any of his Western counterparts.
I agree with you.It’s foolish to trust the German elite at this point.While Russia and Germany should be natural allies and friends.The “current” German elite stops that from happening.If they are finally removed it could be accomplished.But until then it’s just plain foolish to trust Germany.
It’s unwise to trust any elite – Russia et al.
Why are we arguing about this?
Germany is a pussy-state, like all modern western nations. The 24/7 talk of the blessings of democracy has softened everyone’s brains. Add to that the constant media claptrap, the Hollywoodism, the soul-crushing bolshevik education system – no surprise even Germanwings pilots are – or so we are told – suicidal.
Germans have to wake up from their post-WWII slumber. And the rest of Europe too. Now is the time. F*** the Troika!
It’s not even a state. It’s an American protectorate and anybody “elected” as the “head of state” in Germany is an American agent in charge of serving American interests in the midst of Europe.
it is so because it’s current leader chooses to do so. I dont know how much chance there is, but hopefully in the next election, they elect someone better that a US slave.
Sovereignty is not something that can be given to you. Sovereignty has to be taken.
And the Germans will do exactly that – earlier or later…
Sheeple – i’m afraid.
This needs repeated (and repeated) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring :
Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)
The elite use us all.
Merkel appears totally subservient to the americans. Chancellor Schroeder refused to join the “coalition of the willing” in 2003, much to the anger of Rumsfeld, and Merkel, as leader of the opposition at the time, went crawling to washington to make a snivelling apology on the behalf of germany. She would have joined an invasion of Iraq, a fact her party, the CDU, have since attempted to forget and bury.
There are voices in Germany that support common sense on this matter but you currently don’t find them in the main stream press or in the ruling coalition. They have a manner that attempts to present absurdity as common sense but germans have long been experts at that.
I think George Friedman knows better that Germany is wavering…its clear enough….
“… It is not all clear what the German position is. …”
That is what Freeman talks about in the video segment from 9:37 to 12:10 – where he stresses that Germans themselves do not know it!
Freeman here also says (at 10:24) that it is joining of German capital and German technology with Russian natural resources and Russian manpower that has “for centuries scared the hell out of the United States”.
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The complete Freeman’s talk of 4 February 2015 (72 min) is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc
And another thing, his name is here misspelled: it is not “George Freeman” but George Friedman.
Looks like the guy is selling books with repacked Wolfowitz doctrine in it:
*US is an Empire *and the only and greatest one *and if there is a challenge emerging, it must be eliminated, preferably by having competitors fighting with each other. (Coalitions not needed, just some rulers installed).
Makes some predictions (of sort, Russia will disintegrate by 2020 due to oil prices, -presumably will be replaced by Poland and Turkey, -as the US wants it so)
Really, this guy can say whatever he wants, but (hopefully) he does not determine the actual US policy. (But who does?)
@But the vast majority seems to be of the view that we are right and Russia is wrong. This includes ordinary citizens as well.
Germans are disciplined people. I remember a story from the time of GDR. Tourists from a brotherly socialist country went on a visit to a family in Berlin, living close to the Wall. They knew that they would be able to view the West German TV. In all other socialist countries catching other televisions became sort of national sport, albeit nominally illegal (but authorities closed the eyes knowing that the people wouldn’t do anything silly – they were watching the silliest programs anyway). So, our tourists asked their Berliner friends to comment on West German emissions. The Berliner looked genuinely puzzled at the request. “We do not watch it”. “How come”, retorted the tourists, “you are in meters from the TV station on the other side”. “But it is western propaganda, we shouldn’t watch it”!
The countries of Eastern Europe have much more to fear from an alignment of German and Russian interests than America has. Historically, the peoples of these countries have lived under the control of either the Russians or the Germans. By stationing troops and equipment in the countries that lie between them, America has the best assurance that it can keep Russia and Germany from aligning their economic and political interests with each other.
The American intervention in Ukraine served the purpose of weakening Russia economically, and stirring up the fears among the Baltics, Poles, and Balkans of Russian resurgence. This has persuaded those peoples to let the American military establish itself within their territories. It seems that the conflict in Ukraine has worked in the favor of American interests.
Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic union with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat – if the new union was to be a success, Britain must be kept out because according to the German diplomat it was “the continent’s ancient enemy”.
Today several nations, especially Russia, would agree with that assessment. With 66,000 of its nationals on the run from justice, and a large number of them having found asylum in Britain, Russia is the most affected by Britain’s policies.
Russians are stupid to trust English in any way not realising that English parasites are their biggest and persistent enemy which must be sorted out.
“The countries of Eastern Europe have much more to fear from an alignment of German and Russian interests than America has.”
This is wrong. Totally wrong.
You probably didn’t understand what that arrogant Friedman said. The Anglo interest is to keep the peoples of Europe at each other’s throat. That is, at war with each other, periodically. War is precisely the thing to fear. Because of the havoc it wreaks. European integration up to the Ural mountains, or even better: Eurasian integration brings peace and prosperity on the continent. Which is precisely what the Anglo leaders want to prevent.
You are very right
The Next Decade is a book written by George Friedman, and is primarily about the United States’ relationships with other countries. The book also discusses the paradox of “the empire and the republic”, and addresses some demographic, technological, and economic issues, primarily those that will affect the 2010s.
The main theme of the book is how the American administrations of the next ten years will need to create regional power balances, some of which have been disturbed. Friedman conceptualizes America’s successful management of world affairs not by directly enforcing countries, but by creating competing relationships, which offset one another, in the world’s different regions. For example, in the past, Iraq balanced Iran, and currently Japan balances China. Friedman asserts this is the decade where the US as a power must mature to manage its power and balance as an unintended empire and republic.[1][2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Decade_%28book%29
he talks just like the politicians, especially Bush.
Historically the Germans have feared a strong Russia and have wanted to dominate Russia rather than work with her as a strategic partner. 1941 is still in living memory for Russians, and if they had any doubts about Germany’s agressive intent, then they only have to look at the leading role Germany played in the destruction of Yugoslavia to know what awaits Russia at the hands of the Germans.
There is already a de facto separation between Russia and the EU and it is more likely to strengthen than to disappear. We may have reached the high-point in Russian-EU trade, in which case Russia should look to China and the BRICS for its future prosperity.
If Russia protects the Russian population of the Ukraine and reinforces its position on the Black Sea by helping Novorossia caputure the entire Ukrainian coastline, then I think it will have done as much as it can in the Ukraine. The loss of the southern and eastern industrial regions of the Ukraine will leave the rump-Banderistan bankrupt and in turmoil.
An alliance with the Germans, even if they could be trusted, would still leave Poland, the Balts, Bulgaria and Baderistan under American control.
“Historically the Germans have feared a strong Russia and have wanted to dominate Russia rather than work with her as a strategic partner.”
You’ve obviously never heard of Bismarck, who did consider Russia the most important strategic partner, and by the way founded the German Reich. You also seem to oblivious to the fact that defeated Germany and Soviet Russia, much to the dislike of the Western victors, struck a partnership agreement in Rapallo in 1922. It must also have escaped you that Gerhard Schröder, whom you might at least remember, did consider Russia as – what? – a strategic partner! Then the US occupation media replaced him with Merkel, and the bitch rolled back into transatlantic party line.
You can’t reduce DE/RU history to 1941-45. That was precisely the war the Anglos wanted to fight.
Lumi is right. German-Russian relations were great until 1872 (near the birth of the German Empire) to 1907 when Russia formed the Triple Entente in 1907 with Britain and France. It was Nicholas II of Russia who decided to break the alliance with Germany to ally Britain and France. The burden rests purely on his shoulders IMO, and not on that of Germany or Russia. Nicholas Romanov II was terribly naiive.
from 1872 to 1907, I misspoke.
Nicholas was not in power…his ministers took over in a kind of coup…a quiet one. and then of course a few years later they exterminated him.
Excellent, Saker! Just one minor correction: his name is actually George Friedman, not Freeman.
pity I can get only and roughly some 40 pct of german language! Seemed very acute and blunt reasoning.
Turn up the volume (you may need to use a headset) the actual speaking in is in English.
re: George Friedman at the Chicago Club: Thank you Saker. Anyone who does not admit to the existence of evil at the highest levels of the anglo Zionist Empire ( by the way is this Friedman creature a dual citizen of US-Israel as many of the top advisors/leaders are?) has to see this performance. He is a cynical, arrogant con man acting like he is giving you the real scoop.
Satan is essentially a lying liar. His ultimate lie is ” we don’t want to kill you ( Russia) we just want to hurt you a bit” ( then he snorts and stifles a giggle==so much for Turks who giggle). It is clear that Jerkle Merkel is an asset of theirs but one who does not control the German game; however, she can delay things enough to give them time to, they think, erode the foundations under and around Russia.
Well as they say on the tough streets of life: “homie don’t play that game.” It isn’t just the Germans that are the known unknown but the Russians whom he so cavalierly discounts ( with his snorting giggle–a vile creature existing under the cover of urbanity)
“He is a cynical, arrogant con man acting like he is giving you the real scoop.”
I agree 100 % to this. A while ago, I listened to the entire talk (about one hour, also on Youtube), and he just paints a picture of Europe to suit his narrative, full of falsehoods. His only interest is how to play various nations against each other, so there will be war, which he loves, not peace, which he hates. A liar and manipulator. A deeply vicious creature.
Goals and achievements are spelt differently for a reason.
The “efforts” to achieve goals afford myriad opportunities to others.
In complex interactive systems changing one variable does not leave other variables as was/were.
In lateral interactive systems changing 1 variable changes all variables including degrees of freedom and trajectories for all.
Not all are nervous of testing the hypotheses.
So far, so generally true.
In what way is your statement relevant to topic?
Eimar: This is a shilling technique. It is meant to be a thought and time sink for readers, so they’ll eventually lose patience with the site and stop reading. Read up about shilling techniques here:
I Was a Paid Internet Shill – How Shadowy Groups Manipulate Internet Opinion and Debate
It is one shilling technique, but not the only one.
The key to evaluation is whether this particular technique is being used in this particular instance.
The key to whether this particular technique is being used in this instance is in the utility subset of purpose.
Evaluation of utility depends on an evaluation of means and where to implement them, including their potential for conditioning ends.
An evaluation of this blog over about 15 months shows a relatively consistent blindness to the hypotheses outlined above to Eimar.
This blog also shows a relatively consistent ideological immersion primarily contingent upon the notion of exceptionalism – of the US and others. This can lead to various outcomes including over-estimation of the agency, facilities and degrees of freedom of the opponents.
Consequently informed judgement would suggest that shilling is not necessary, and that those who shill are neither informed nor have the relevant level of expertise. Shilling is more likely an indicator of “desperation”.
Some previously were of the view that the opponents are/were masters in information,.
However as analysis of their information output and techniques used show an increasing oscillation which is sometimes a pre- indicator of collapse.
Some posit that the blindest are those who only “see” their own projections, as in holograms.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-empire-of-chaos/5439725
For those seeking to add additional context to Mr. Escobar’s report of a visit to Donentsk, perhaps it should be remembered that Mr. Ginsburg’s howl include roughly the following line –
America go fuck yourself with your atomic bomb.
Since you appear to accept that they are generally true why not use that understanding to evaluate all contributions in this blog.
Because
a) the current situation is not an abstraction. It is real.
and
b) I am not a member of the RAND cult.
PS. Since you’re so keen on MANOVAs, you would do well to consider a) validity and b) reliability. You might make something approaching a ‘useful’ contribution then.
You might also consider that ‘utility’ is a function of perspective: what is useful to one, may be useless to another. Failure to understand this makes you as ‘ideologically immersed ‘ as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here.
@Lumi:
Thanks. Will check out the link later. I’ll spare you a ‘utility function’ assessment …;)
“You might also consider that ‘utility’ is a function of perspective: what is useful to one, may be useless to another. Failure to understand this makes you as ‘ideologically immersed ‘ as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here. ”
Why presume I don’t consider/understand that utility is a function of perspective which in part is a function of purpose?
You may also presume that I am operating in a binary linear paradigm.
To reprise :
“Since you appear to accept that they are generally true why not use that understanding to evaluate all contributions in this blog.”
Evaluation of purpose also contains an aspect of ability/opportunity to activate – a feedback opportunity if you prefer.
Some posit that the blindest are those who only see their own projections, as in holograms.
Some use this knowledge to encourage confirmation bias.
It would appear that you tend towards the opponents ideologies and practices by subsuming that knowledge is always a tool of bludgeoning, that knowledge is private property, that knowledge is always shared for reasons of ego including attribution, and hence you expose your weaknesses by statements such as “as the rest of us ‘dummies’ who show up here. ” giving a useful advantage to any opponent.
Ideology seeks immersion and when you come out of the swimming pool you still carry water.
Some posit that if you don’t dry yourself you may be prone to diseases.
With such a “perception” you may understand that your most dangerous opponent is oftentimes yourself.
“the current situation is not an abstraction. It is real.”
You appear to fail to understand that the current situation is a lateral function of the past in its interactive complex, and within these degrees of freedom/opportunities many have been encouaging lateral strategies of challenge well before the “current”.
These challenges are/were not abstractions, and are/were implemented in the “real”.
Activism without knowledge often does not end well – consult Sun Tsu, hopefully understanding that Sun Tsu died a while back and hence in some regards his notions have been improved upon in the interim.
I note that you also appear to reflect notions of exceptionalism by restricting the perception of purpose afforded by using the opportunity to broadcast information contingent upon your remarks, to address you or even restricting this to readers of this blog.
Perhaps another hologram?
Whatever happened to James Jesus and his orchids?
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/04/security-service-sweeps-ministry-of.html
re: civilization clash that is essentially racist at core. Interesting article about the continuing attack on of all things Russian
http://russia-insider.com/en/distorting_putins_favourite_philosophers/5124
I just finished reading that — very interesting.
It referred to http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/putins-philosophy/ and that’s decent too, with the following quote:
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Like Stolypin and the Vekhi contributors, Ilyin believed that the source of Russia’s problems was an insufficiently developed “legal consciousness” (pravosoznanie). Given this, democracy was not a suitable form of government. He wrote that “at the head of the state there must be a single will.” Russia needed a “united and strong state power, dictatorial in the scope of its powers.” At the same time, there must be clear limits to these powers. The ruler must have popular support; organs of the state must be responsible and accountable; the principle of legality must be preserved and all persons must be equal under the law. Freedom of conscience, speech, and assembly must be guaranteed. Private property should be sacrosanct. Ilyin believed that the state should be supreme in those areas in which it had competence, but should stay entirely out of those areas in which it did not, such as private life and religion. Totalitarianism, he said, was “godless.”
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I could pick some bones with it, such as defining ‘private property’ — does it include means of production and the commons? , and I don’t have access to what Ilyan wrote — but the bit about sufficiently developed to run a democracy is important.
Not sure about Russia now, but I suspect USA people have generally been dumbed down and brainwashed to the point (of perhaps no return) so they are far to ignorant, and incurious, to run a democratic nation themselves. I expect that when they have had enough and revolt the result will be chaos and tyranny. So far Donbas looks like its much better prepared for democracy.
As historian Carroll Quigley explained, in
1891, three British elites met with the intent to create a secret society. The three men were Cecil Rhodes, William T. Stead, a prominent journalist of the day, and Reginald Baliol Brett, a “friend and confidant of Queen Victoria, and later to be the most influential adviser of King Edward VII and King George V.” Within this secret society, “real power was to be exercised by the leader, and a ‘Junta of Three.’ The leader was to be Rhodes, and the Junta was to be Stead, Brett, and Alfred Milner.”[5]In 1901, Rhodes chose Milner as his successor within the society, of which the purpose was:The extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom and of colonization by British subjects of all lands wherein the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labor, and enterprise… [with] the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of a British Empire, the consolidation of the whole Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial Representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire, and finally the foundation of so great a power as to hereafter render wars impossible and promote the best interests of humanity.[6]Essentially, it outlined a British-led cosmopolitical world order, one global system of governance under British hegemony. Among key players within this group were the Rothschilds and other leading banking interests.[7]
“has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records.” By carrol Quigley .===================================================Americans and british are running Afghanistan opium trade and London is the centre of money laundering.
Pontius Pilatus was a vassal king of the Roman Empire. A new history lesson today.
Take everything, I mean everything, from Stratfor with couple of slabs of sea salt!
Stratfor is a CIA disinformation outlet much like the Israeli’s ???? Someone fill in the line for that Israeli “news” site . . .
English duplicity in first world war against supposedly ally like Russia.
Before the battle of “Gallipoli”.
Quote “If Russia threw in the towel, Britain and France faced disaster. This was not part of the grand strategy envisaged by the Secret Elite. The possibility of a victorious German army switching from the Eastern to the Western Front sent shivers down the spine of Whitehall. London became preoccupied with the need to support an increasingly reluctant Russia to hold fast to the war.”
——-“Indeed, two centuries of relentless insistence that Russia had to be kept out of Constantinople underpinned the fact that in truth, ‘the Allies would try anything to stop Russia gaining Istanbul and the Bosphorus.’”
—- “The annual Guildhall Banquet which the City of London lavished on its political leaders on Monday 9 November reached truly iconic status in terms of British duplicity. Churchill promised that a blockade would bring Germany to her knees in six, nine or twelve months, and promptly failed to take the action required. Kitchener announced that ‘the men are responding splendidly…but I shall want more’, but Prime Minister Asquith told the greatest lie. He claimed that, despite all his government’s efforts to safeguard Turkish neutrality, ‘it is they and not we who have wrung the death-knell of Ottoman dominion, not only in Europe, but also in Asia. The Turkish Empire has committed suicide and dug its grave with its own hand.’ [4] No Russian Imperialist could have said it better. The Ottoman empire was scheduled for demolition. [5] It would be torn apart under the guise of suicide.
Count_BenckendorffIn November 1914 Russian Foreign Secretary Sazonov notified Count Benckendorff, his Ambassador in London, that Russian troops operating against Turkey would be compelled to violate Persian neutrality. Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey immediately issued a ‘hands off’ dictum stating that a Russian incursion into the neutral Moslem country would provoke anti-Entente ferment among the Mohammedans of the East. Just two days later Britain landed her own troops at the head of the Persian Gulf. They occupied the oilfields near Ahwaz, and advanced on the Turkish town of Basra, capturing it on 22 November. [6] Apparently a Russian invasion of Persia would excite religious tensions among Muslims, but a British attack was perfectly acceptable. The hypocrisy was stunning.”—from https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com
NATO website contains the text of a speech of then Secretary General of the bloc, Manfred Worner, in Brussels on May 17, 1990:
“NATO and European security in the 1990’s” http://nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm
He swears that after United Germany enters NATO there will be no further advance to the East.
http://i079.radikal.ru/1503/7b/b9d7383a8005.jpg
http://indrus.in/blogs/2013/06/13/operation_unthinkable_churchills_plan_to_start_world_war_iii_26091.html
“In the closing days of WW II, Winston Churchill came up with a bizarre plan for a joint British-American attack on the USSR. When told the Russians would bombard the UK on a massive scale, the British PM quietly backed off.”
Wing-Commander Sir Arthur Harris (later Bomber Harris, head of wartime Bomber Command) was happy to emphasise that *The Arab and Kurd now know what real bombing means in casualties and damage. Within forty-five minutes a full-size village can be practically wiped out and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured.*
“I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.” — Winston Churchill 1920
So the cordon sanitaire can be seen to entomb Germany as well as to block Russia. All the countries within the boundaries rely on Russian energy. They will become impoverished in due course, and will become an unstable colonial zone while watching Eurasia develop nearby.
The only way that zone works is if it is at war with Russia. Old time war, not nuclear war. But of course, such wars will not be fought with Russia any longer. Moscow’s military doctrine has changed. Russia will use tactical nukes to stop such aggression. And Russia will not fight outside its own land mass. We see its tactics in Ukraine. The periphery can be supplied by voentorg and Russian-speaker/Slavs will fight to preserve Russia.
The military component of the US strategy will be thwarted by the reality of Russian doctrine.
The card, not a wild card, in all this is China.
China has investments, deals and aspirations with and in Europe. China will be decisive. Not directly, not militarily, but by force of nature (the natural evolution of its economic strength and willingness to cooperate with all of Europe.)
Nothing the US contrives can work, nor can it last. Forward positioning of steel (armor) or planes merely makes the zone target rich for Russian munitions.
Using Eastern Europe as a zone requires energy, food, infrastructure development and social control. In the short term, Ukraine cost $5 Billion to manipulate and ready it for war. Another $10-40 Billion has been pumped in or extracted into the war regime. It is now fragile, 100% dependent and could soon collapse.
Imagine the costs to accomplish this cordon sanitaire. Most empires fall in the colonial zones and then contagion of the bad economics infects the motherland of the empire.
The US would need another million boots on the ground to enforce this zone. The dislocation and costs are stupendous.
These hegemonic concepts are a great sign. They are the end signs of the Hegemon.
We see with China’s rise as the economic power and with its strategic partnership with Russia that the counter-balance to any more hegemonic movement of the US will be blunted by the avarice of its vassals. Look at Britain, imbedded with the RMB/yuan. Look at all the European nations who are flocking to the AIIB. Eurasia is a siren for corporations looking for developing markets. No market could be bigger than Eurasia. The vassals want a piece of the action.
And the military giant in the middle of Eurasia is Russia.
It is a defensive military, built, trained and ready by history and leadership to defend.
So, the US needs Ukraine inside its zone for it to work. This will never happen. Ukraine will remain unstable if not calm and neutral.
Thus, the Hegemon, as always, can only harm its vassals with this strategy. It cannot succeed.
A flawed strategy, a weakened Hegemon, and time and resources wasted.
They will try this all along the perimeter of Russia, the southern belly (Central Asia) and even in the Arctic with the Scandinavians, Canada and Japan. But they are already far too late to react. Russia has its military buildup in all these regions.
The Hegemon’s use of terrorists against Russia and China will be blunted with SCO, which is expanding this year with India, Pakistan and Iran coming on board.
If you look at the available forces the Hegemon has versus the armies of the New Free World (Russia and China) and its close partnerships, the forces are with the New Free World.
North Korea and Iran have five or six million men in uniforms. They would join any Hegemonic war as allies of the New Free World.
Anyone can see that containment and war are no longer viable options for hegemony. Most importantly, the nuclear doctrine of first use of tactical nukes by Russia is the game-changer.
What is left are many years of chaos-making, color revolution attempts, some flareup conflicts and events (false flags and otherwise). All manageable by the New Free World.
Meanwhile, the clash of civilizations will be the essence of the global struggle. Values versus Liberal degeneracy will crystalize. The New Free World, its Eurasia project, will stand in stark contrast to the fascism, greed and demonic behavior of the Hegemon.
“The card, not a wild card, in all this is China.”
The metaphor being linear is problematic but within this paradigm:
“Why restrict to one card when there is more than one deck?
Seemed rather pathetic to me. Friedman is a typical general who is fighting the last war. Seeing Russia and Germany as the main threat to the US – at a time that much bigger countries are rising up – is an anachronism. In contrast to what he said both the British empire and the Roman empire occupied huge territories. That was the basis of their empire, not divide-and-rule.
Crucial to those empires was also that people accepted them. Someone has to be the cop of the world – so why not the British (or whoever). That was also how the British conquered India. Initially they were for the Indians just another foreigner dominated empire – just like the Mughals. Only later – when the indians started to expect more from their government – did they start to question to British.
The US could stay relevant for quite some time if they resorted to being the world’s cop. It gives them not only military relevance but also domination of world finance. It is the manipulations that Friedman encourages that are robbing it of its relevance in those area’s. Maybe Friedman has forgotten that divide-and-conquer in the end sucked Britain into World War I – from which it never really recovered.
As for Russia, I think the best thing to do is lying low. Don’t make the error of the German emperor who at the eve of World War I suddenly found that he needed to have a navy.
british did nto conquer india-they inserted themselves first as small trader and then as small interfering nosey ba–strd in internal affairs of Indian rulers and then making one fight with another and only after 120 years of stay did they got whole of India.
Saudi’s kings are bandits of old ages they use to go on raids and british made them as kings.
Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels (terrorists) into Syria. They even asked me-dumas the ex FM of france.
august 2013.
“the source said the US and Britain are looking at the new Al-Qaeda force as an instrument to attain their goals and do not intend to support them to ascend to power, “because if Salafi elements in Syria ascend to power, they will create many problems for the US, the Western states and Turkey in future”.
“Thus, the US, Britain and Turkey are looking at the Al-Qaeda as a tactical instrument,” he said, and warned of the regional and global repercussions of the US and Turkish aid to the Al-Qaeda and Salafi groups.
“Unfortunately, these group of countries have just focused on the short-term benefits that the Salafis and the Al-Qaeda can provide for them and ignore the perils of this support in the long run,” he said.
“At present, the western countries, specially Britain which hosts and controls the Jihadi Salafi groups throughout the world are paving the ground for these extremists to leave their homes – mostly in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as well as those who live in Europe and the US – for Waziristan,” the source added.
Interviewer: Is there a way of circumventing that?
Snowden: As a general rule, so long as you have any choice at all, you should never route through or peer with the UK under any circumstances. Their fibers are radioactive, and even the Queen’s selfies to the pool boy get logged.
Do private companies help the NSA?
Snowden: Yes.
As a general rule, BRITISH AND US-based multinationals should not be trusted until they prove otherwise.
Snowden: In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners 4 go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK’s GCHQ.
“dumas”
Syrian war of western terrorists was planned and executed by england 4 years ago.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Former_French_Foreign_Minister%3A_The_War_against_Syria_was_Planned_Two_years_before_%E2%80%9CThe_Arab_Spring%E2%80%9D/26680/0/38/38/Y/M.html
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
Dumas went on give the audience a quick lesson on the real reason for the war that has now claimed the lives of tens of thousands of people.
‘’This operation goes way back. It was prepared, preconceived and planned in London.
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“More relevant to Russia was a 2002 covert operation in Azerbaijan, a classic exercise in deep politics. There former CIA operatives, employed by a dubious oil firm (MEGA Oil), “engaged in military training, passed ‘brown bags filled with cash’ to members of the government, and set up an airline…which soon was picking up hundreds of mujahideen mercenaries in Afghanistan.” [23] These mercenaries, eventually said to number 2000, were initially used to combat Russian-backed Armenian forces in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh; but they also backed Muslim fighters in Chechnya and Dagestan. They also contributed to the establishment of Baku as a transshipment point for Afghan heroin to both the Russian urban market and also the Chechen mafia. [24]
In 1993 they also contributed to the ouster of Azerbaijan’s elected first president, Abulfaz Elchibey, and his replacement by Heidar Aliyev, who then agreed to a major oil contract with BP, including what eventually became the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline to Turkey. Note that the U.S. background of the MEGA Oil operatives is unmistakable. However who financed MEGA is unclear; and may have been the oil majors, many of which have or have had their own covert services. [25] There are allegations that major oil corporations, including Exxon and Mobil as well as BP, were “behind the coup d’état” replacing Elchibey with Aliyev. [26]
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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/top-3-current-global-targets-for-anglo.html
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In Syria, Libya the US//UK Arm Terrorists while in Turkey/Bahrain/Qatar /KSA they arm Dictators
“As far as I can tell from my many media interviews with the Russian media, there is no Russian awareness of the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Russians think that there is some kind of misunderstanding about Russian intentions. The Russian media does not understand that Russia is unacceptable, because Russia is not a US vassal. Russians believe all the Western bullshit about “freedom and democracy” and believe that they are short on both but making progress. In other words, Russians have no idea that they are targeted for destruction. —If the Russians and Chinese do not expect a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Washington, they will be destroyed.” By Paul Craig Roberts in saker interview on 24th of march 2015.
Ah the gentleman is usually good for a joke.
Like some other person of exceptionalism he professes to understand “Russia” and play clarion.
Perhaps he should visit an optician to correct his problem of long-sightedness.
Only a man who is on a personal vendetta against someone will always find ways to attack his victim.
Mr. Fasola, is everything OK with you ?
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Putin’s letter to the Arab League to use dialogue not war to solve problems received a rebuke from Saudi Arabia.
No surprise.
But the issue in the Middle East is clarifying. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the cancerous tumors on the Sunni world. They want dominion over the region and influence through Wahhabism (terror) in Russia, China, North Africa and South Asia (Pakistan, Bangladesh).
Will the US fight and die for them?
The Saudis have always purchased their fighting forces. They rent armies. They did it against Saddam. They bought the US and the Gulf War coalition.
Now, will they do it again?
However, this time there is Russia and China in the mix.
Iran has much at stake in Yemen. It may turn into another long Yemeni war. They have had them before.
What is interesting is that war itself has changed. Only air war is feasible for the US and its proxies. Or naval war/blockade of Iranian supplies to its Yemeni allies.
You can see photos today of China’s ship taking 450 Chinese citizens out of Yemen. China has warships in the Gulf of Aden and Red Sea for UN anti-piracy. But they could also wedge against US naval power. The US will not want to start a war with China over a proxy war in Yemen.
Putin also stated he was ready to help Palestine achieve statehood. This,again, is diplomatic work and not military help. But it forces a new dynamic.
Russia and China are challenging the old order everywhere.
The US isn’t interested in Ukraine itself, only what it can accomplish through Ukraine. Look at all the old worn out equipment that was sitting in Iraq and Pakistan that the US did not even want back. They sold all that to Latvia on credit. They will sell to Poland, Latvia and any number of banana republic. They will use that debt to manipulate these countries trade and political policies. In effect grabbing multiple votes within the EU and no real cost to them. This is old equipment, most of it worn out…
Here you have the full speech from this specimen of brotherhood of the mankind “American Way”.
-irony off-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc
General Steuben helped Mr.Washington to make his revolution against British Empire.
Carl von Clausewitz was sitting with Kutusow in his headquarter in 1812 helping him to beat Napoleon.
I stay with Carl von Clausewitz!
For those of you who want to read what Friedman said: I have written out almost the whole 13 minutes of the video: http://xevolutie.blogspot.nl/2015/03/467-stratfor-boss-georg-friedman-spills.html
The gentleman’s name is Friedman not “Freeman.” (Freid could translate to “free”, but Fried would translate to “peace.”) He has an interesting biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman
The German title of this video on YouTube says:
“Incredible !!! The main goal of the U.S. is war in Europe”
yes, I hope Germans wakeup!
In memoriam Alfred Herrhausen
Former Chairman of “Deutsche Bank”
After November -9 -1989 , the day the Berlin-Wall fell down , Alfred Herrhausen a few days later went to a trip to USA for a speech in Front of one of the big “Think-tanks”.
He spoke about the urge to produce a “Glasnost” also in the Capitalist -World for making international finance more transparent , including a condonation of third-world depts.
One of his visions was a reunificated Germany and her new role in the European Continent , and as a possible hinge for cooperation with Russia.
At November -30 -1989 , three weeks after the fall of the Wall. Alfred Herrhausen died from a terrorist bomb attack , presumably from the “Red-Army-Fraction”. The case is still open and without a suspect.
Mr.George Friedman for me is one of the possible instigators of Herrhausen´s assasination .
He was then chairman of Deutsche Bank and a top advisor of then chancellor Helmut Kohl. Most of the official RAF terrorist story is nonsense, just like the Brigate Rosse in Italy. Behind these “terrorists” there is the hand of the Anglo puppeteer.
What Herrhausen naively outlined to the US elite is exactly what they are hell-bent on preventing, i.e. Eurasion integration. So they assassinated him. And Detlev Carsten Rohwedder, too.
Engdahl deals with this in “A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order”, at least in the German edition.
Stationing US/NATO troops to create a “cordon sanitaire” has no practical military value, as a) Russia has no intention of invading or attacking those countries, and b) US/NATO has no intention of invading or attacking Russia, and c) even if a and b were false, Russia could apply overwhelming military force.
The intent of these moves (and statements) by the US/NATO military and political leaders is primarily political and psychological, to raise fear and tension without crossing the line to overt military action. This is an extremely dangerous game which Russia is also playing in reaction to US/NATO provocations.
“… primarily political and psychological …”
But also economical, don’t you think? Pipelines, high-speed train links, energy safety, investment safety … People don’t invest in a potential conflict zone, where their investment may be wiped away, or stolen.
Viwetnam Vet, that makes sense, except that I don’t even think its that dangerous. Basically the States has decided to back off Ukraine. Good. Now they are going backwards bravely.
“Basically the States has decided to back off Ukraine” – I don’t agree. A “battalion-minus” of the 173rd Airborne Division is being dispatched to train Kiev “national guard” militias (including the neo-Nazis?) in early April, and weapons are being shipped directly from the US to Kiev (in addition to those already being “covertly” supplied).
and Lumi – yes economic pressure as well, in my mind politics and economics are the same thing.
lumi said -quote “quote “The Anglo interest is to keep the peoples of Europe at each other’s throat. That is, at war with each other,”
Exactly.
As early as in 1949 the first NATO Secretary General, british Lord Ismay, candidly admitted that NATO’s true goal was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”
USA does not need NATO it was created by one nation and for the benefit of one nation only to create havoc in Europe on strength of American arms but crookedness of someone else-
you hear that from the horse’s mouth of the people who created NATO and are still controlling it to wage wars on the nations it does not like -which is all of the world except evil 5.spies.
There is a confusion among many that USA uses
Nato exert her influence in Europe. In fact USA does not need nato . But that entity
is needed by a third rate country which after second world war found herself
without real power so nato was created by that country to keep Germans down and
Russians out using American arms and
money.. Since early 90s that same country maneuvered to keep Nato alive and
install her stooges in European commission like british spy barrasso and English witch catherine
ashton and many more inside European bureaucracy to make Europe follow one and only one policy
to be dictated by that same country.
Name of the evil country? Of course it is
england .
Mr Friedman is talking about “throwing out of balance”. How about them balance now: Crimea is now an unsinkable aircraft carrier and the remaining of the Nazi project Ukraine is in turmoil and the Empire is forced to fork out everything themselves as the second-best military in Europe, Ukraine’s, lays in agony and dying. How about them apples!
Mr. Friedman, in his original talk, adds that he expected Russia to begin breaking up in 2020
Mr. Friedman seems to have some concern, though, that the Russians, “the poorer they are…they fight better.” However, he remains optimistic about the chance that in a couple of years, “the Russians are toast.”
Valuable insight into the thinking of the smartest men of the Empire.
Great interview, shows how arrogant the US establishment is. Hopefully a lot of Germans who watched this will know what to do in next election: pick someone more sensible, and do what the Empire of Chaos fear most – partner closely with Russia!
US ruling the oceans? Great for subduing the natives in far flung parts of the empire.
China building an island in the South China sea – install a few hypersonic missiles and China will rule the seas in a 1500km radius.
Friedman is a TOTAL idiot and just makes s— up. But it sells, because of this self-perpetuating myth that he has some great insider connections with the CIA and knows what’s really going on.
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=6879
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=8491
Doesn’t help that he sounds like he’s had one too many whiskey sours.
I just watched the video now. Folks, this must be clearest example of psychopathy, feigned hubris and fakery all rolled up into one individual trying desperately to prove what a superior and all knowing being he is while inadvertently conveying just the opposite. (God-Complex perhaps? Or does he act that way because he thinks he belongs to a special chosen elite?)
This guy Friedman comes across as a fraud, he tries too hard to make himself look more important than he is, using big words incorrectly (“primordial” ? ROFL!) to make himself and his arguments sound more intelligent than they really are. And his responses are filled with BS cliches like: “German Technology” -oh really ? Like German technology is of any real consequence today (it isn’t anymore) – this (“German technology”) is a marketing cliche, even a US Congressional report, from the late 1990s, states that the US, Japan and Russia will hold a lead in “ultra-high” technology into the first quarter of the next century (which is now). No mention of the much overblown “German technology” in that Congressional report.
Secondly he mentions German Capital, again, a load of horseshit when we live in a world of Fiat Euros, the real wealth lies in Russia with its massive tangible assets (ie 15% of the world’s landmass and real natural resources coupled with the means to extract them). And if immediate fiat Capital is so important, then China’s $4-Trillion foreign reserves is far more significant than anything the sickly EU can field.
Thirdly he mentions the cliche Russian manpower (maybe he’s confusing Russia with the 350Million person Soviet Union). This guy Friedman seems to forget that the EU’s 550Million population has a labor- force that dwarfs Russia’s labor-force in terms of size and is equal in terms of education and skills (Russia’s total population is less than 200Million). The EU or Germany does not need Russia for Russia’s manpower, not when Germany has the rest of the EU states as it’s vassal labor force – another provable lie flogged by Friedman.
The only somewhat accurate thing this con-Man, Friedman, said is that it is a goal of the United States to put a wedge between Europe and Russia (a goal they have successfully met), as well as the general divide and ruin policy the British foisted on Europe – the rest of his presentation is puffery.
This is more than just cordon sanitaire…
I think the US plotocrats have decided that Russia is too strong at the moment and could not be broken using their usual bag of tricks. So, they opted for the next best achievable goal…
Freadman said that USA have been prepositioning military hardware in the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and Bulgaria outside of the context of NATO. In a nutshell, this means these countries are now being quietly occupied by the US military, and quite possibly some of these countries are not even aware of it (well, the puppets there most likely know it very well).
The cordon the US are now forming has a sole purpose of dividing the European continent in half, with the added bonus of weakening Germany by preventing its access to the eastern markets. Remember what happened just before the end of WW2.
The discussion the westerna allies had was whether Germany should be forcibly deindustrialised and turned into an agricultural society. Now, with Germany undecided and a potential threat to US interests should it decide to turn toward east, the deindustrialisation plans are being dusted off. And if Germany is gone as an industrial power, the rest of the western Europe will follow. In essence, USA is turning the western Europe into a feudal colony.
Spot on! ..in addition, the US now controls the currencies of all EURO countries…..the fake competing currency… as an alternative to the dollar.
The damage quislings [a.k.a. puppets] can do!
“Let’s join the EEC = let’s join the EU = let’s join NATO == let us give up our sovreignty => let’s join the EUROzone”.
Job done!
During the last 25 years US think-tanks have become an echo-chamber for Khazarian-Mafia talking points of Empire and Hegemony. The bolshevik-trash that washed-up on American shores in the 20th century co-opted every podium. Problem is the hegemon they created is crumbling within. Friedman may talk-the-talk — but he knows more-and-more Americans will no longer walk-his-walk. Increasingly his views are seen by average decent citizens as a craven view of humanity. The worm has turned. And Americans are rubbing the sleep from their tired little eyes and see they are as expendable to Friedman as Russians, Germans, Ukrainians, Poles — all except his KM tribe.
The biggest problem facing the America hegemon is the rapid loss of participation in the nations economic and social community. Participation is critical to the wellbeing of a nation. It’s the basis of national identity. Beliefs are formed through participation. It’s the glue that holds us together. And it’s measured through voting and spending and taxes. They don’t need us to vote anymore. Elections are rigged. And they don’t need our money. Cause the 1% prints what it needs. Our taxes can’t possibly cover the wars and covert operations. Credibility and power is derived from conscious participation in the system. And they’re losing it. Faster than they believed possible. Perhaps they’ll create another BIG event to re-engage conscious participation. They haven’t yet accepted they’ve lost us. That we’re over them. But VV Putin knows it. And he’s acting like a man who isn’t afraid to wait.
Well said.
Since a couple of years the US dollar is at risk of imploding basically on hour by hour basis. And it will. From that point on, events will unfold very quickly.
Not that the Netanyahus, Kolomoiskys, Soroses und Friedmans will stop their ludicrous, vile monologues, how could they? But there won’t be any cameras around anymore and the microphones will be turned off.
I would imagine Freeman to be as forthcoming as I would the sod who runs debka. These things are all the same.
This man is a prime example of the psychopaths who run our world. The United States was never set up as an empire. The United States is only in name. In fact it has been slowly but surely taken over by the same group (their descendants) that took over Russia the Bolsheviks, today they are better known as the Kazarian Syndicate. They did 911 in order to start world war three. Israel is their home base nation but they have made such drastic inroads to the USA that now it is there center of operation. They have eradicated our constitutional freedoms and have turned America into a Soviet police state. They destroy every country they take over, and if these criminals are not stopped they will start WWIII potentially destroying life on planet Earth. Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are not!
In my opinion, this is the most sincere geopolitical analysis/confession of the U.S that i have ever heard or read in any book so far. It was absolutely brilliant!
Interesting talk, and enlightening about the neocon US justifications for US foreign policy and actions …..
.. and then he says ..(after saying that everything in Europe was going well..) “then Russia invaded Georgia … ” No mention of the US puppet, Sackarschwilli’s, attack on South Ossetia in the middle of the night with his US and Israeli trained forces, killing Russian peacekeepers.
.. which, of course, proves that he’s not interested in dealing with the truth regarding Russia, but wants to accuse Russia of acting outside acceptable norms of international behaviour ….
What EXTRAORDINARY HYPOCRISY from a US neocon, after the US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, etc .. all based on proven lies – invasions that were all, in fact, war crimes!
No he’s not dealing with facts, he’s spinning an anti-Russian narrative. He just sounds plausible, but he’s really an unrepentant neocon.