The Russian government’s sincere and diligent effort to prevent chaos in Syria and additional massive refugee flow into Europe, all the while avoiding conflict with Washington and its vassals, has been brought to an end by Washington’s intentional attack on a known Syrian army position, thus wrecking the cease fire agreement that Russia sacrificed so much to achieve.
The response to this fact by the Obama regime’s ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, reveals that Washington will lie to the hilt in order to achieve its agenda of reducing Syria to the same chaos as Washington has reduced Iraq and Libya. Washington, and Washington alone, is responsible for the war in Syria. When the British Parliament and the Russian government blocked Obama’s intended US invasion of Syria, the Obama regime armed and financed jihadist mercenaries to invade Syria, pretending that the jihadists were Syrian rebels fighting for democracy in Syria. Samantha Power turned history upside down and blames the war on Russia’s intervention at the request of the Syrian government against the ISIL jihadists that Washington sent to destabilize Syria. What Samantha means is that if Russia had not come to the aid of Syria, Washington and ISIL would already have destroyed Syria, and there would be no war. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45501.htm
Ambassador Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, said that in his 40 years of diplomacy he had never seen such a high-handed and demagogic performance as Samantha’s. Churkin seemed to imply that such an unrealistic and twisted response to known facts as Samantha delivered leaves him without hope of any successful diplomatic outcome. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45502.htm
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Russia, Iran, Syria and Hezbollah (the the 3 + 1 grouping) must not allow themselves to be hoodwinked into another disastrous ceasefire deal with Washington.
Russia especially must not let this happen again!
Syria’s allies, Russia and Iran should ensure that the SAA is sufficiently equipped with the necessary tools to defend itself from Western impunity.
S-300s and S-400s from Russia and the Bavar 373 from Iran must be deployed and a No Fly Zone declared.
I know it easier said than done, but what is the alternative?
What happened to those brave Syrian soldiers was no mistake, it was a deliberate act of premeditated slaughter.
The indispensable nation refuses to acknowledge the legitimate government of Syria and have instead opted to do as it pleases.
Syrian lives are being lost and terrorists are being facilitated.
Its time for the 3 + 1Coalition to weigh the consequences and act decisively.
This is an extremely dangerous situation now. I hope Russia treads very carefully. Russia should have long since supplied Syria with state-of-the-art air defense capability. Russia directly engaging US aircraft would be very unwise. We don’t need World War III here.
At the moment, unless there are major changes in the US, WWIII is inevitable. I do not see Russia and China agreeing to unconditional surrender to the US and I do not see the US changing its plans for full spectrum dominance – total control of the world.
Any sane person should hope that you are mistaken. The next steps are decisions that the Russian leadership will have to make. In any case, if you are correct then the situation and outcome in Syria has become a mere sideshow is no longer important.
Its important to the millions of people that live (or die) there.Just like in Ukraine ,the millions suffering death or their lives ruined. Think far less about the needs of “diplomacy”. And think even less about the “possibilities” of at “some point” in the “future” that the West “just might” collapse economically.And stop killing them. And they think far more about ,will I and my children survive today and tomorrow.Will our heads be chopped off by US supported terrorists.Will my family and friends,be killed or our homes destroyed today or tomorrow by US supported terrorists ,or fascist death squads.Will my daughter,wife,mother,be raped by fiends in human form,supported by the West.Those are the thoughts those people have. Worrying about endless,senseless,talking with colleagues and pardners,while they die,is very far down on what they think about.And you want to know what is even further down that list, is listening in silence to trash like Obama praise himself and the US at the UN.And his condemning Russia and China for “breaking international law”.While those countries foreign ministers sit in silence instead of speaking and throwing those lie’s back in his face. For you see,the US’s victims in Syria,Ukraine,and other places,are mostly “simple folk” with simple ideas. There is right and there is wrong. And when you are attacked,you fight back against the attacker. Those are the ideas of simple folk.The niceties,of joking and laughing with your killers,is beyond their thinking or understanding (and mine as well)..
@Uncle Bob
I think you are absolutely right. The US (or it’s deep state) wants WAR but Putin has steadfastly and persistently try to avoid it. That’s where we are. I am truly at the point where I wonder if instead Putin decides to say “if you want war, let’s have it”!. May be that is the only way to avoid one.
I am sane and so it’s true that I “hope” Peter AU is “mistaken”, but I dont think so.
“The next steps are decisions that the Russian leadership will have to make” – really?
The Hegemon Exceptionalists have nothing to do with this ?
Alan, I also hope I am mistaken. If I am right, I hope to see changes that means war is not inevitable.
Until I see changes, I will now do what I can to see my children (adults now) have the best possible chance of surviving whatever is coming.
The US is hoping that Russia reacts in exactly this way.
Brave Syrian soldiers doing their duty in fighting terror are massacred, so that Liver Eaters can increase the territory under their command. In the meantime Russia who co-signed the deal equivocates and continue to talk about “our partners”.
No one is advocating that Russia be cavalier and sleep walk into WWIII, but there has to be limits to what you are prepared to tolerate.
International Law is on the side of Syria, Russia and Iran. The US and it’s allies are operating in Syria illegally. They were not invited by the Syrian government -like Russia and Iran – nor are they there under a UN mandate.
There is no legal justification for what they are doing.
Impunity will only be rewarded by further outrages.
I think its obvious now that the west feels this is their Rubicon moment with Russia. The west has no intent on peace and instead feel they need to force Russia to submit.. in the west mind easier now than tomorrow. Totally delusional may I add.
There won’t be any WW3, there won’t be any more “Lenin, Sverdlov, Trotzky”, no more indians slaughter. Peace will prevail upon the Empire. Mother Russia won’t let the Devil to rule the Globe.
Since the humanitarian convoy was not bombed by any air strike but it got fire from a land attack, my first thought went to people who has permission to be in the proximities of the humanitarian aid convoys, as well could be the infamous fake NGO “White Helmets”, and it seems that Major Gral. Konashenkov and the Ministry of Defense of the RF are of the same mind:
I am posting this purely because I need to send you a message. I find your choice of commentator name highly offensive. I have no idea why you are choosing to call yourself a brother of Putin. He had a brother who died as child. Seeing him talk – which he rarely does – of this, it is plain that it saddens him to this day. That a person who has no connection with President Putin should be so insensitive is very offensive to me. I wont post anything you submit that has this name-tag attached. mod-on-duty.
Russia has to bide her time until the US election.
The US needs war with Russian before the election of the new POTUS.
There will be more talking than you can shake a stick at.
The US forces are very vulnerable in the Middle East. Everyone hates America. Her aircraft carriers can be sunk and aircraft destroyed in a few hours.
Logistically American could not put an army capable of confronting Russia in place in less than three months…possibly six months.
And that is assuming Russia does not sink the naval transports first…or shoot down aircraft supporting such an exercise.
While the US action in Syria looks bad, if push came to shove America would have to turn tail and run if it wanted to survive an armed confrontation.
And that is before US desertions and officers refusing to obey orders. Attacking defenceless people is one thing, facing certain death for a Muslim homosexual POTUS is quite another.
I think a crucial point is what Churkin asked, echoed by Lavelle in Crosstak:
‘Who is charge, the Pentagon or the President?’
This is also likely tied to who i s expected to win the election, Clinton or Trump. With Trump no surging ahead the hawks will be thinking to start a war immediately instead of taking a a chance of Trump getting in and supporting a cease fire (which some have pointed out would expose the US’s duplicity [and also the internal fights among Washington’s factions).
This makes the next few months a very dangerous time, with loose cannons running amok.
Samantha Power’s ‘stunt’ really pissed off Churkin — which might have been a move designed to provoke Russia to military action even more — but the US had better be careful what it asks for or it may get it, to it’s great regret.
(I also read Power is just Kerry in drag with makeup — lipstick on a pig, so to speak :-} )
I think perhaps Syria (and Russia nodding yes) should insist that the US invading personnel leave the country, as it is in violation of international, as well as US law, and the UN Carter, as waging aggressive war, and that US forces will be subject to being militarily attacked and/or evicted (whether done or not that possibility should be noted), and action should also be taken in the US and various other international bodies to get the US out of there. It’s actually a US invasion of a sovereign nation. The US has no right to bomb anyone in Syria, or be there.
Helping to fuel the fights in the US among the different factions might also be good strategy, tending to paralyze them all. It’s also good to make clear that Clinton is a great risk of bringing WW3 down on the heads of the US, more so than Trump is.
As far as the authenticity of the video, who knows, but this article by Eric Zuesse is chilling. It shows the pig-headedness of the neocon deep state. They will never give up. This is the telling quote:
“This video provides a rare record of America’s proxy-war against Russia, in Syria. It’s a war to end the secular Syrian government that’s allied with Russia — Russia currently being the leading supplier of oil and gas to Europe. It’s a war to replace Russian oil-and-gas sales to Europe, by Sunni-Arabic, US-allied, oil-and-gas sales to Europe. That’s what all of these people are being slaughtered over. It’s a big gangland-operation. The Syrian population are in a situation like the residents are in any city that has a lengthy gang-war that slaughters lots of innocent bystanders and not only members of the rival gangs.
In this particular instance, the invading gang are the US and its allies. The defenders are the Syrian government and its Russian ally — plus Shiite Iran, and its Shiite allies including Hezbollah in Lebanon. This is not quite yet a world war, but it’s moving toward one. What it is now, is like a gangland drug-war, in which the «drug» is fossil-fuels, and the marketing-territory is Europe, and the United States and its Arabic royal allies have been trying to take over the production (in Arabia) of the «drug,» and the marketing (by the US aristocracy) of the «drug» in that territory. This is the «drug»-war that could end up in World War III. And that’s international relations today.”
44 But reports from the east(china) and from the north(Russia) shall trouble him(US). Therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He shall pitch the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, and no one shall help him.
I believe Russia should be doing exactly what it has been doing for a long time now: Negotiate, negotiate and negotiate…. and do whatever it can to avoid all out war with the empire.
Slowly many players in this bloody game of geopolitics are realizing that Zionists cannot be real partners in anything. Eventually they always betray. Always! With each broken agreement others cannot help but to face the reality of what will eventually happen to all of them regardless of their alignments. Nobody is safe and nobody is benefiting from these NWO but the Zionists. Whoever got corrupted and bribed by them will not be spared in the future.
As time is passing by, the empire is getting weaker and their own “friends” are only pretending to be friends. Meanwhile, Russia is building its strength and winning some friends but most importantly remaining independent and sovereign.
In 1830 Frances Trollope, mother of the later famous English novelist Anthony Trollope, travelled to the US, where she hoped to open a store of “European items” in the then frontier town of Cincinnati OH. Things did not go as planned and after two years she returned to Europe.
In the meantime, however, she wrote a very interesting book, titled “The Domestic Manners of the American”, a proverbial treasure trove of revealing, illuminating and often entertaining information.
Only 16 years before her trip, America tried to bring democracy to Canada by annexing it, without success. The president was Andrew Jackson, known in history for his genocide of the Cherokees and Seminoles and for saying that “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.”
The Cherokees made the mistake of attempting to fit their life and customs to the new ‘civilization.’ They even printed a bi-lingual newspaper, Cherokee and English.
In recent times, nations and people “liberated” by the ‘exceptional’ state committed the same error, through their leaders – namely to trust in the good faith of the devil. They ignored American history.
Trollope’s book triggered ire, rage and resentment among the local establishment – even though the tone is overall balanced, both in judgments and observations.
Here is a quote from the book.
“The assumption of equality, however empty, is sufficient to tincture the manners of the poor with brutal insolence, and subject the rich to the paltry expediency of sanctioning the falsehood, however deep their conviction that it is such. It cannot, I think, be denied that the great men of America attain to power and to fame, by eternally uttering what they know to be untrue. American citizens are anything but equal.”
Which explains, I think, an interesting current phenomenon. In areas and towns disenfranchised through historical causes, e.g. globalization, crisis, outsourcing etc., many homes are (euphemistically speaking) run-down, And yet, outside there is often a mast flying the American flag.
And in 1831 Dr. Von Phiseldeck, a doctor the philosophy wrote in “The American Quarterly Review:” “… The United States must and will govern the whole world, because they are so very big, and have so much uncultivated territory; a union will take place between North and South America, which will give a death blow to Europe, at no distance period.”
There you have it, return to the future, exceptionalism before exceptionalism was cool.
All in all, the openly peddled cabalistic doctrine of exceptionalism blends perfectly with the anglo-zionist, unspoken but extant notion of the chosen people. It’s a match made in heaven, or in hell, depending on the point of view.
For what is worth, I doubt that diplomacy can deal with a collective frame of mind, which equates conflict, violence, murder and death (of others) with personal fortune, success, survival and dominance. Coupled with deep contempt for the “lesser man”, and whose only restraint is fear.
Voltaire1964, you have perpetuated the myth that Andrew Jackson said, “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” The wording (and consequently the meaning) is utterly wrong, and the person who it is attributed to is not Jackson, but Union General Philip Sheridan of Civil War fame, or infamy, depending on your point of view. He is supposed to have said, “The only good Indians I ever saw were dead.” https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Philip_Sheridan
Stiv R. Thank you for the correction. You may agree that the quotation, in its original and its incorrect version, and whether uttered by Sheridan or Jackson, conveys accurately the spirit of the times
so today, UNSC meeting after Obama yesterday at UN publicly shamed and named Putin as personally responsible for Syria and attack on humanitarian convoy—some drone evidence yesterday from Rus, but if there is this, surely radar, tracking of airplanes can be produced as evidence but a bit like MH17, and Rus could provide evidence of Turkish airplane location, USA cannot provide evidence so Rus must be guilty due to its aggressive expansion and empirical ambitions……….
Lavrov rejects claims that aid convoy was hit by Syrian Air Force
Russian Politics & Diplomacy September 21, 8:56 UTC+3
The Russian top diplomat says the Syrian aviation could not have worked as the attack on the convoy occurred during the hours of darkness when Syrian warplanes do not fly
bbc2 newsnight interviewed Mark Toner -yuk-yesterday,all over UK news this am , Putin is guilty……..”someone” came forward as a witness to barrel bombs being dropped from a helicopter….
Russia points finger at Al-Nusra White Helmets over UN convoy “fire”
September 20, 2016 – Fort Russ News –
RIA Novosti – translated by J. Arnoldski –
Following the attack, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that it had studied video of the attack and said neither Russian nor Syrian government munitions had hit the aid convoy. The ministry has repeatedly stated that Russia launches its airstrikes with advance air surveillance and careful verification of data provided by the Syrian military.
Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said that analysis of the attack footage revealed no signs of bombs, suggesting that fire traces resulted from the offensive launched by Jabhat Fatah al Sham, formerly known as Nusra Front (outlawed in Russia).
The US believes that the two Russian Su-24 attack UN convoy, according to the CNN, “All the evidence we have,” – was quoted an unnamed US official.
“Ripening” accusations against the Russian FSI and Syrian Air Force allegedly strikes on humanitarian convoy of the UN in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo are not supported by the facts, said the Russian Foreign Ministry, noting that the information about it is false.
“With indignation and opposition to consider the attempts of some foreign curators and terrorist gangs in Syria blame for the incident on the Russian VKS and the Syrian Air Force, “bombed” supposedly humanitarian convoy. According to the testimony of “eyewitnesses”, of acting on the controlled fighters areas of organization “White Helmets”, in which like reference the western media, strikes from the air, and some activists allegedly even heard the noise of helicopter engines, “- said in a statement on the Russian MFA website.
“These are not supported by the facts hasty accusations, among other things, designed, it appears to be the fact, to divert attention from a strange” mistakes “admitted by the pilots of the US-led coalition antiigilovskoy 17 September, when its planes bombed positions of the Syrian government forces near the town of Deir ez- Zor “, – added in the department.
” The Russian military is checked, including with the use of objective control, in order to clarify all the details of what happened in the village Urum al-Kubra in the evening on 19 September. At the same time responsibly declare that no air strikes on the United Nations humanitarian convoy in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo, Russian or Syrian air force was not applied “, – reported in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Analysis of video from drones yesterday movement of humanitarian convoys for controlled by militants of the province of Aleppo has revealed new details.
The video clearly shows how with this convoy terrorists relocating pickup hitched mortar high caliber.
It is not clear, however, someone who “covers”: mortar – a convoy of volunteers, “White helmets”, or is it vice versa? And, most importantly, where the mortar disappeared near the end point of following convoys and who led a fire during its parking and unloading?
The humanitarian convoy, according to the Russian military, went through areas occupied by militants, and therefore accompanied by drones to the final destination. According to the Western press, killed 20 people.
“We have carefully studied the video so-called” activists “from the scene and found no signs of hitting the convoy any ammunition. There are no corresponding funnel, cars do not damage the hull and structural fractures from the blast of war aviaboepripasa all demonstrated on video frames -. a direct consequence of the fire load, which in a strange way began at the same time carrying out a large-scale attack militants in Aleppo “, – said Igor Konashenkov.
He also added that about who and what started the fire, could only reply, as always, it happened to be at the right time and in the right place with cameras representatives close to the “Dzhabhat en-Nusra” organization “White helmets”.
at the same time Konashenkov emphasized that around 13 hours and 40 minutes, all the humanitarian aid was safely delivered to the end point . After that, the Russian Center of reconciliation of the warring sides in Syria has stopped monitoring the convoy. Further movement of the convoy of the Russian side is not monitored.
“All the information about the whereabouts of the convoy was known only to controlling these areas the militants,” – added Konashenkov.
The UN said it will be called the incident “an attack”, because it can not determine whether an attack on a humanitarian convoy of the UN air strike in Syria. “We are not in a position to determine whether it was really strikes”, – quotes Reuters the UN statement.
The number of settlements that have joined the reconciliation process has increased to 642. The number of armed groups that have declared their commitment to the terms of a cessation of hostilities, remained unchanged – 69.
During the day, by the illegal armed groups recorded 45 violations of the cessation of hostilities in provinces of Aleppo (26), Damascus (11), Ham (4), Latakia (2) and Quneitra (2).
The Russian FSI and Syrian Air Force opposition armed groups, have declared a cessation of hostilities and to report to the Russian or American centers reconciliation information about their location, strikes are not applied.
Participants of the meeting of the International Support Group Syria (MTT) recognized the complexity of the moderate Syrian opposition separation from the terrorist group “Al-Nusra” in some parts of the country, the official representative of the US State Department, John Kirby.
As Russia’s envoy said the UN, Vitaly Churkin, the UN Security Council resolution on Syria will not be achieved in connection with Russia and the United States agreed. “There was no intrigue, the United States said they did not want to publish the agreement, we said that without publishing arrangements can not ask the Security Council to approve these agreements. On this we parted,” said the Russian permanent representative.
Another meeting of the International Support Group Syria will be held on 23 September. This was stated by the Foreign Minister of Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier said after a ministerial meeting of the MTT, which was held in New York on the sidelines 71 th session of the UN General Assembly.
Before the meeting of the international support of Syria group in New York, Foreign Minister of Russia and the United States held a bilateral meeting without the presence of the press.
US Secretary of State John Kerry after a meeting of the International Group of Syria’s support, said the cease-fire in the Syrian Arab Republic has not died.
Negotiations between the US and Russia on Syria reached their limits, said the head of the French Foreign Ministry Jean-Marc Eyraud after a meeting of the International Group of Syria support. “We must do everything so that the ceasefire was implemented. Without this, nothing is possible. Otherwise the war will continue to spiral. But now we must honestly say, the negotiations between the US and Russia have reached their limits. We see that there are difficulties, “- he said.
The French leader blamed for the breakdown of the truce in the country for ATS authorities and stated the need to respect the ceasefire. French President Francois Hollande accused the ATS authorities for the failure of the truce actions in the country and urged the international community to convene a United Nations Security Council on the Syrian crisis as soon as possible. The politician stressed that the international organization is necessary to achieve compliance with the ceasefire in accordance with the decisions taken, sending humanitarian aid to Aleppo and other Syrian cities, as well as the resumption of political negotiations. In addition, Francois Hollande, said the need to bring to justice those that use the chemical weapons.
In this case, the French president said that for the breakdown of the truce are responsible Syrian authorities. “The regime is responsible for its failure. I want to say to those who support it from abroad, they have to force the regime to be committed to peace. If they do not, they will also, together with the regime responsible for the division and chaos in Syria “, – concluded Francois Hollande.
British Foreign Boris Johnson said that Russia and the United States plan – “the only way to end the conflict in Syria.”
Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu said that the responsibility for violation of the truce in Syria bears the country’s government. “Unfortunately, the truce has always stopped regime and those who support it even prevented the UN humanitarian convoy At this time all the same regime bombing not only of Aleppo, but also many other cities of Syria His goal -…. IG and” Dzhebhat Al-Nusra “, a moderate opposition”, – he said.
he also said that without a ground operation to cope with the group “Islamic State” will not succeed. “We support” Free Syrian Army “(FSA) in the fight against terrorists. And we are at every meeting emphasize that without a ground operation that bloody terrorist group did not win, “- he said. Regarding Turkey’s military plans in the framework of the operation “Shield of the Euphrates,” Cavusoglu said that it is planned to achieve the creation of a security zone in northern Syria. “The plan is to cleanse the region, the so-called” pocket manbij “by the IG and turn it into a security zone. After that, the aim is to become the city of al-Bab, “- he said.
The minister recalled that the Syrian and Iraqi Raqqa to Mosul,” is considered the capital of the IG, “and the group” must be cleaned in these regions. ” “We have one enemy, and against it we should act together. After the operation in Dzharabluse all appeared confident that the IG could easily be defeated. I remind you that 65 anti-coalition acts 30 thousand militants IG “, – he said.
Syria’s future should not be based on the fate of one man, said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, noting that a military solution to the Syrian conflict does not exist and urging all those who have influence in the region and contribute to its resolution.
“I urge all those who have influence put an end to fighting and start negotiations. The political transition has long been delayed. After such violence and disorder in the management of the future of Syria should not rely on the fate of one person, “- said the UN secretary general, speaking at the UN General Assembly.
” In today’s world, the conflict in Syria takes the greatest number of lives and sow instability. Military solution to it is not. Many groups have killed many innocent – but no more than the government of Syria, which continues to drop bombs on the drum parts and systematically torturing thousands of detainees. Influential patrons who continue to feed the war machine, also have blood on their hands “- said the UN secretary general.
” In this hall today are representatives of governments who have ignored, facilitated, sponsored, participated or planned and carried out the atrocities that repaired all the Syrian conflict against the civilian population “, – said Ban Ki-moon.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon also said that the bombing outraged humanitarian convoy in Syria and expressed the hope that those responsible for the bombing, will be brought to justice.
After the air strike on the UN humanitarian convoy under the Aleppo organization decided to suspend the delivery of humanitarian aid to the country. The same decision was made and the International Committee of the Red Cross.”
Lavrov says Syrian airforces cannot fly at night re convoy attack claims
yet
“AlMasdarNews reports: The Russian and Syrian air forces resumed their aerial campaign over the Aleppo Governorate on Monday night, targeting several sites under the control of Jaysh Al-Fateh and Fatah Halab.
According to a military source, the Syrian and Russian air forces launched most of their airstrikes over the southern countryside of Aleppo, hitting several Jaysh Al-Fateh targets inside the villages of Khan Touman, Khalsah, Tal Al-‘Eis and Qarassi.
These airstrikes in southern Aleppo succored the Syrian Arab Army soldiers against Jaysh Al-Fateh, allowing them to drive the jihadist rebels back after a short battle.
In addition to the airstrikes over southern Aleppo, the Syrian and Russian air forces targeted the provincial capital’s northern districts, including Dahret ‘Abd Rabo, Al-Layramoun, and Bustan Al-Basha.
According to a field source in the provincial capital, the Syrian and Russian air forces conducted 100+ airstrikes over Aleppo tonight, marking the official end to the short-lived ceasefire.”
“The brother of a volunteer killed in an attack on Syrian aid trucks has revealed how the convoy was pounded for hours with at least 20 missiles – after Russia denied it had launched an aerial bombardment.
Lorries packed with medicine and food were ‘erased from the face of the earth’ while 20 were killed when the convoy turned into a giant fireball in Aleppo province.
Russia has suggested the trucks caught fire amid military activity by ‘militants’ in the area and both the Kremlin and Syrian government has denied being involved in an attack.
But Ali Barakat, who works for the Red Crescent, said 20 missiles hammered the area on Monday night, killing his brother in the process.
Barakat said he threw himself on the floor when the first missile hit a car carrying his brother, Omar Barakat, also an aid worker.
The ceasefire in Syria is lying in tatters today after 12 were killed in an airstrike on an aid convoy – an outrage UN warned could amount to a war crime
The ceasefire in Syria is lying in tatters today after 12 were killed in an airstrike on an aid convoy – an outrage UN warned could amount to a war crime
Aid is seen strewn across the floor in the town of Orum al-Kubra on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Aleppo
Aid is seen strewn across the floor in the town of Orum al-Kubra on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Aleppo
UN officials said at least 18 trucks in the 31-vehicle convoy were destroyed late on Monday as it was trying to deliver humanitarian assistance to tens of thousands of civilians in the town of Orum al-Kubra
UN officials said at least 18 trucks in the 31-vehicle convoy were destroyed late on Monday as it was trying to deliver humanitarian assistance to tens of thousands of civilians in the town of Orum al-Kubra
A rescue worker who witnessed the strikes said bombs pounded the area for hours, even hitting his team as they searched the debris for survivors.
Hussein Badawi, who leads the Syrian Civil Defense – also known as the White Helmets – in Uram al-Kubra, said the strikes came from helicopters and land missiles.
He accuses Syrian and Russian aircraft of taking part in an attack that lasted more than two hours, covering a 100 yard-radius. Badawi’s team arrived on the scene after the first land missiles hit.
note references to ‘land missiles’, western press call it bombing which of course implies airplanes, but article says “aerial attack’….says missiles…..well anything that could be launched from the ground ie mortars could be badly defined as missiles as they go through the air, but implication is still from aircraft?
I would not have thought Rus Syrian force would take two hours to destroy convoy, ergo must be rebels using their more limited means, also someone must have been on the ground reconnoitering the situation to direct the fire, as implicit is that the time took meant very accurate targeting?
Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said in a statement…
“No airstrikes were carried out against a humanitarian aid convoy in a southwestern suburb of Aleppo by Russian or Syrian aviation. Seeing as the convoy’s route lied through the territories controlled by militants, the Russian reconciliation center monitored its passage yesterday via drones.”
Konashenkov added that monitoring finished when all humanitarian aid was delivered at 10:40 GMT.
“Further movements of the convoy were not monitored by the Russian side. Only the militants controlling this area know details of the convoy’s location.”
Examination of video shows no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy.
“We have carefully studied videos by so-called activists from the site and found no signs of any ammunition striking the convoy. There are no shell holes, cars’ bodies are not damaged and there are no construction faults from the bust wave. All shown on the footage is a direct consequence of the cargo being set on fire. The fire strangely coincided with a major offensive by militants in Aleppo.”
Zerohedge provides this logic to the narrative…
The [Russian] ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the “White Helmets” organization that has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have “accidentally” been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.
While it is unclear why Russia would bomb a convoy it was filming and which it knew the entire world would be focused on, at least it has provided some footage to validate its statement. We now eagerly await the US “intelligence services” to present their own evidence which confirms that Russia is lying. We doubt that will be provided, and instead this will devolve into yet another instance of fingerpointing and accusatory diplomacy which will achieve nothing but escalate already deadly tensions in the region.
Zerohedge reports further on the newest Syrian war blame game…
The big geopolitical news in the aftermath of yesterday’s bombing of a UN humanitarian convoy in Syria, which according to unofficial, UK-funded “Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” was done by Russian or Syrian fighter jets, was this morning’s vocal denial by the Russia defense ministry that neither Russian nor Syrian planes were responsible for the bombing raid.
As we concluded this morning, there were two possibilities: either Russia is lying, or it is telling the truth. And since Russia should be able to back up its claims with video footage, the question emerges: did US-coalition forces or US-backed “moderate rebels” belonging to the al-Nusra, stage the attack a UN convoy in the latest “false flag” attempt to shift attention to “Russian aggression”, and seek justification to escalate the military campaign against Syria, and its proxy supporter, Russia?
To be sure, it won’t be the first time the US has “made a mistake” – just on Saturday, US-coalition forces apologized for killing dozens of Syrian troops in what Assad called “flagrant American aggression.” If confirmed, it will once again demonstrate that the western MIC will stop at nothing to escalate military conflicts, no matter the bodybount, if it means bigger military contracts courtesy of generous US taxpayers.
And since ignoring Russia’s response would mean the US was tacitly admitting was the responsible party (and lied), moments ago the WSJ reported that U.S. intelligence agencies said they believe that Russian aircraft conducted the strike that targeted a humanitarian aid convoy in northern Syria on Monday, essentially accusing the Kremlin of lying.
John Kerry initially had suggested that Syrian aircraft were responsible for the strikes on the U.N. convoy, which killed at least 12 people. However, the rhetoric escalated after U.S. officials said new intelligence indicates that Russian forces, rather than the Syrians, conducted the strike.
The WSJ also said that US officials said the Russian and Syrian governments had been notified in advance to the presence of the 31-truck convoy to ensure it wouldn’t be bombed by their forces in the area. “There was coordination ahead of time with the Russians,” a U.S. official said. Oddly, the US had not notified the Russian and Syrian governments on Saturday when a US strike killed over 60 Syrian troops in what the US later said was a “mistaken” strike.
The White House declined to comment on the new intelligence. http://theduran.com/russia-provides-definitive-video-proof-that-us-backed-isis-jihadists-attacked-un-convoy-syria/
I have a completely different take on the cease fires. Just like the rest of us, Russia certainly can see through Washington’s game. They’re not ‘hoodwinked’, they’re overpowered 10 to 1 (as Saker’s been saying) – they cannot refuse the premise of a ‘cease fire’. Russia’s recourse is to ‘accept’, then turn the AZ’s plan against them and they’ve been beyond brilliant in doing that. Especially, in Ukraine.
The stakes for Russia are far higher than the loss of Syria. Putin’s clearly a fox fighting an enraged elephant. I guarantee that for the sake of his people, he’s considering ‘surrender’ as Mr. Roberts suggests. But given the hubris of the AZ Empire, I doubt that any offer of theirs would be acceptable in any form.
Will Russia Surrender? — Paul Craig Roberts
The Russian government’s sincere and diligent effort to prevent chaos in Syria and additional massive refugee flow into Europe, all the while avoiding conflict with Washington and its vassals, has been brought to an end by Washington’s intentional attack on a known Syrian army position, thus wrecking the cease fire agreement that Russia sacrificed so much to achieve.
The response to this fact by the Obama regime’s ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, reveals that Washington will lie to the hilt in order to achieve its agenda of reducing Syria to the same chaos as Washington has reduced Iraq and Libya. Washington, and Washington alone, is responsible for the war in Syria. When the British Parliament and the Russian government blocked Obama’s intended US invasion of Syria, the Obama regime armed and financed jihadist mercenaries to invade Syria, pretending that the jihadists were Syrian rebels fighting for democracy in Syria. Samantha Power turned history upside down and blames the war on Russia’s intervention at the request of the Syrian government against the ISIL jihadists that Washington sent to destabilize Syria. What Samantha means is that if Russia had not come to the aid of Syria, Washington and ISIL would already have destroyed Syria, and there would be no war.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45501.htm
Ambassador Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, said that in his 40 years of diplomacy he had never seen such a high-handed and demagogic performance as Samantha’s. Churkin seemed to imply that such an unrealistic and twisted response to known facts as Samantha delivered leaves him without hope of any successful diplomatic outcome. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45502.htm
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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/19/will-russia-surrender-paul-craig-roberts/
Russia, Iran, Syria and Hezbollah (the the 3 + 1 grouping) must not allow themselves to be hoodwinked into another disastrous ceasefire deal with Washington.
Russia especially must not let this happen again!
Syria’s allies, Russia and Iran should ensure that the SAA is sufficiently equipped with the necessary tools to defend itself from Western impunity.
S-300s and S-400s from Russia and the Bavar 373 from Iran must be deployed and a No Fly Zone declared.
I know it easier said than done, but what is the alternative?
What happened to those brave Syrian soldiers was no mistake, it was a deliberate act of premeditated slaughter.
The indispensable nation refuses to acknowledge the legitimate government of Syria and have instead opted to do as it pleases.
Syrian lives are being lost and terrorists are being facilitated.
Its time for the 3 + 1Coalition to weigh the consequences and act decisively.
This is an extremely dangerous situation now. I hope Russia treads very carefully. Russia should have long since supplied Syria with state-of-the-art air defense capability. Russia directly engaging US aircraft would be very unwise. We don’t need World War III here.
why not. shoot them down. let americans die in great numbers.
Umm… Because American’s have nuclear weapons? And because the Russians could wind up getting shot down themselves?
At the moment, unless there are major changes in the US, WWIII is inevitable. I do not see Russia and China agreeing to unconditional surrender to the US and I do not see the US changing its plans for full spectrum dominance – total control of the world.
Any sane person should hope that you are mistaken. The next steps are decisions that the Russian leadership will have to make. In any case, if you are correct then the situation and outcome in Syria has become a mere sideshow is no longer important.
Its important to the millions of people that live (or die) there.Just like in Ukraine ,the millions suffering death or their lives ruined. Think far less about the needs of “diplomacy”. And think even less about the “possibilities” of at “some point” in the “future” that the West “just might” collapse economically.And stop killing them. And they think far more about ,will I and my children survive today and tomorrow.Will our heads be chopped off by US supported terrorists.Will my family and friends,be killed or our homes destroyed today or tomorrow by US supported terrorists ,or fascist death squads.Will my daughter,wife,mother,be raped by fiends in human form,supported by the West.Those are the thoughts those people have. Worrying about endless,senseless,talking with colleagues and pardners,while they die,is very far down on what they think about.And you want to know what is even further down that list, is listening in silence to trash like Obama praise himself and the US at the UN.And his condemning Russia and China for “breaking international law”.While those countries foreign ministers sit in silence instead of speaking and throwing those lie’s back in his face. For you see,the US’s victims in Syria,Ukraine,and other places,are mostly “simple folk” with simple ideas. There is right and there is wrong. And when you are attacked,you fight back against the attacker. Those are the ideas of simple folk.The niceties,of joking and laughing with your killers,is beyond their thinking or understanding (and mine as well)..
Uncle Bob, I think you have succinctly stated what millions of people looking on, but feeling helpless are thinking too, myself Included
@Uncle Bob
I think you are absolutely right. The US (or it’s deep state) wants WAR but Putin has steadfastly and persistently try to avoid it. That’s where we are. I am truly at the point where I wonder if instead Putin decides to say “if you want war, let’s have it”!. May be that is the only way to avoid one.
I am sane and so it’s true that I “hope” Peter AU is “mistaken”, but I dont think so.
“The next steps are decisions that the Russian leadership will have to make” – really?
The Hegemon Exceptionalists have nothing to do with this ?
Alan, I also hope I am mistaken. If I am right, I hope to see changes that means war is not inevitable.
Until I see changes, I will now do what I can to see my children (adults now) have the best possible chance of surviving whatever is coming.
The US is hoping that Russia reacts in exactly this way.
Brave Syrian soldiers doing their duty in fighting terror are massacred, so that Liver Eaters can increase the territory under their command. In the meantime Russia who co-signed the deal equivocates and continue to talk about “our partners”.
No one is advocating that Russia be cavalier and sleep walk into WWIII, but there has to be limits to what you are prepared to tolerate.
International Law is on the side of Syria, Russia and Iran. The US and it’s allies are operating in Syria illegally. They were not invited by the Syrian government -like Russia and Iran – nor are they there under a UN mandate.
There is no legal justification for what they are doing.
Impunity will only be rewarded by further outrages.
At this point, international law is totally irrelevant and meaningless. Who is the policeman to step in and enforce that law?
Russia,Iran,Hzbolla
So in New York today the foreign ministers of the. International Syria Support Group met…….anything useful one wonders………
I think its obvious now that the west feels this is their Rubicon moment with Russia. The west has no intent on peace and instead feel they need to force Russia to submit.. in the west mind easier now than tomorrow. Totally delusional may I add.
There won’t be any WW3, there won’t be any more “Lenin, Sverdlov, Trotzky”, no more indians slaughter. Peace will prevail upon the Empire. Mother Russia won’t let the Devil to rule the Globe.
Since the humanitarian convoy was not bombed by any air strike but it got fire from a land attack, my first thought went to people who has permission to be in the proximities of the humanitarian aid convoys, as well could be the infamous fake NGO “White Helmets”, and it seems that Major Gral. Konashenkov and the Ministry of Defense of the RF are of the same mind:
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/russia-points-finger-at-al-nusra-white.html
It´s enough of theater. The costume ball is over.
I am posting this purely because I need to send you a message. I find your choice of commentator name highly offensive. I have no idea why you are choosing to call yourself a brother of Putin. He had a brother who died as child. Seeing him talk – which he rarely does – of this, it is plain that it saddens him to this day. That a person who has no connection with President Putin should be so insensitive is very offensive to me. I wont post anything you submit that has this name-tag attached. mod-on-duty.
Russia has to bide her time until the US election.
The US needs war with Russian before the election of the new POTUS.
There will be more talking than you can shake a stick at.
The US forces are very vulnerable in the Middle East. Everyone hates America. Her aircraft carriers can be sunk and aircraft destroyed in a few hours.
Logistically American could not put an army capable of confronting Russia in place in less than three months…possibly six months.
And that is assuming Russia does not sink the naval transports first…or shoot down aircraft supporting such an exercise.
While the US action in Syria looks bad, if push came to shove America would have to turn tail and run if it wanted to survive an armed confrontation.
And that is before US desertions and officers refusing to obey orders. Attacking defenceless people is one thing, facing certain death for a Muslim homosexual POTUS is quite another.
let us hope so, Richard! US and its ‘allies’ need to be taken down big time before they can wreck the entire world!
I think a crucial point is what Churkin asked, echoed by Lavelle in Crosstak:
‘Who is charge, the Pentagon or the President?’
This is also likely tied to who i s expected to win the election, Clinton or Trump. With Trump no surging ahead the hawks will be thinking to start a war immediately instead of taking a a chance of Trump getting in and supporting a cease fire (which some have pointed out would expose the US’s duplicity [and also the internal fights among Washington’s factions).
This makes the next few months a very dangerous time, with loose cannons running amok.
Samantha Power’s ‘stunt’ really pissed off Churkin — which might have been a move designed to provoke Russia to military action even more — but the US had better be careful what it asks for or it may get it, to it’s great regret.
(I also read Power is just Kerry in drag with makeup — lipstick on a pig, so to speak :-} )
I think perhaps Syria (and Russia nodding yes) should insist that the US invading personnel leave the country, as it is in violation of international, as well as US law, and the UN Carter, as waging aggressive war, and that US forces will be subject to being militarily attacked and/or evicted (whether done or not that possibility should be noted), and action should also be taken in the US and various other international bodies to get the US out of there. It’s actually a US invasion of a sovereign nation. The US has no right to bomb anyone in Syria, or be there.
Helping to fuel the fights in the US among the different factions might also be good strategy, tending to paralyze them all. It’s also good to make clear that Clinton is a great risk of bringing WW3 down on the heads of the US, more so than Trump is.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/16/video-shows-us-training-syrian-jihadists.html
As far as the authenticity of the video, who knows, but this article by Eric Zuesse is chilling. It shows the pig-headedness of the neocon deep state. They will never give up. This is the telling quote:
“This video provides a rare record of America’s proxy-war against Russia, in Syria. It’s a war to end the secular Syrian government that’s allied with Russia — Russia currently being the leading supplier of oil and gas to Europe. It’s a war to replace Russian oil-and-gas sales to Europe, by Sunni-Arabic, US-allied, oil-and-gas sales to Europe. That’s what all of these people are being slaughtered over. It’s a big gangland-operation. The Syrian population are in a situation like the residents are in any city that has a lengthy gang-war that slaughters lots of innocent bystanders and not only members of the rival gangs.
In this particular instance, the invading gang are the US and its allies. The defenders are the Syrian government and its Russian ally — plus Shiite Iran, and its Shiite allies including Hezbollah in Lebanon. This is not quite yet a world war, but it’s moving toward one. What it is now, is like a gangland drug-war, in which the «drug» is fossil-fuels, and the marketing-territory is Europe, and the United States and its Arabic royal allies have been trying to take over the production (in Arabia) of the «drug,» and the marketing (by the US aristocracy) of the «drug» in that territory. This is the «drug»-war that could end up in World War III. And that’s international relations today.”
Daniel 11:44&45
44 But reports from the east(china) and from the north(Russia) shall trouble him(US). Therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He shall pitch the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, and no one shall help him.
I believe Russia should be doing exactly what it has been doing for a long time now: Negotiate, negotiate and negotiate…. and do whatever it can to avoid all out war with the empire.
Slowly many players in this bloody game of geopolitics are realizing that Zionists cannot be real partners in anything. Eventually they always betray. Always! With each broken agreement others cannot help but to face the reality of what will eventually happen to all of them regardless of their alignments. Nobody is safe and nobody is benefiting from these NWO but the Zionists. Whoever got corrupted and bribed by them will not be spared in the future.
As time is passing by, the empire is getting weaker and their own “friends” are only pretending to be friends. Meanwhile, Russia is building its strength and winning some friends but most importantly remaining independent and sovereign.
In 1830 Frances Trollope, mother of the later famous English novelist Anthony Trollope, travelled to the US, where she hoped to open a store of “European items” in the then frontier town of Cincinnati OH. Things did not go as planned and after two years she returned to Europe.
In the meantime, however, she wrote a very interesting book, titled “The Domestic Manners of the American”, a proverbial treasure trove of revealing, illuminating and often entertaining information.
Only 16 years before her trip, America tried to bring democracy to Canada by annexing it, without success. The president was Andrew Jackson, known in history for his genocide of the Cherokees and Seminoles and for saying that “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.”
The Cherokees made the mistake of attempting to fit their life and customs to the new ‘civilization.’ They even printed a bi-lingual newspaper, Cherokee and English.
In recent times, nations and people “liberated” by the ‘exceptional’ state committed the same error, through their leaders – namely to trust in the good faith of the devil. They ignored American history.
Trollope’s book triggered ire, rage and resentment among the local establishment – even though the tone is overall balanced, both in judgments and observations.
Here is a quote from the book.
“The assumption of equality, however empty, is sufficient to tincture the manners of the poor with brutal insolence, and subject the rich to the paltry expediency of sanctioning the falsehood, however deep their conviction that it is such. It cannot, I think, be denied that the great men of America attain to power and to fame, by eternally uttering what they know to be untrue. American citizens are anything but equal.”
Which explains, I think, an interesting current phenomenon. In areas and towns disenfranchised through historical causes, e.g. globalization, crisis, outsourcing etc., many homes are (euphemistically speaking) run-down, And yet, outside there is often a mast flying the American flag.
And in 1831 Dr. Von Phiseldeck, a doctor the philosophy wrote in “The American Quarterly Review:” “… The United States must and will govern the whole world, because they are so very big, and have so much uncultivated territory; a union will take place between North and South America, which will give a death blow to Europe, at no distance period.”
There you have it, return to the future, exceptionalism before exceptionalism was cool.
All in all, the openly peddled cabalistic doctrine of exceptionalism blends perfectly with the anglo-zionist, unspoken but extant notion of the chosen people. It’s a match made in heaven, or in hell, depending on the point of view.
For what is worth, I doubt that diplomacy can deal with a collective frame of mind, which equates conflict, violence, murder and death (of others) with personal fortune, success, survival and dominance. Coupled with deep contempt for the “lesser man”, and whose only restraint is fear.
Voltaire1964, you have perpetuated the myth that Andrew Jackson said, “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” The wording (and consequently the meaning) is utterly wrong, and the person who it is attributed to is not Jackson, but Union General Philip Sheridan of Civil War fame, or infamy, depending on your point of view. He is supposed to have said, “The only good Indians I ever saw were dead.”
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Philip_Sheridan
Stiv R. Thank you for the correction. You may agree that the quotation, in its original and its incorrect version, and whether uttered by Sheridan or Jackson, conveys accurately the spirit of the times
so today, UNSC meeting after Obama yesterday at UN publicly shamed and named Putin as personally responsible for Syria and attack on humanitarian convoy—some drone evidence yesterday from Rus, but if there is this, surely radar, tracking of airplanes can be produced as evidence but a bit like MH17, and Rus could provide evidence of Turkish airplane location, USA cannot provide evidence so Rus must be guilty due to its aggressive expansion and empirical ambitions……….
Lavrov rejects claims that aid convoy was hit by Syrian Air Force
Russian Politics & Diplomacy September 21, 8:56 UTC+3
The Russian top diplomat says the Syrian aviation could not have worked as the attack on the convoy occurred during the hours of darkness when Syrian warplanes do not fly
More:
http://tass.com/politics/901157?_ga=1.149977910.1015947298.1471597608
bbc2 newsnight interviewed Mark Toner -yuk-yesterday,all over UK news this am , Putin is guilty……..”someone” came forward as a witness to barrel bombs being dropped from a helicopter….
Russia points finger at Al-Nusra White Helmets over UN convoy “fire”
September 20, 2016 – Fort Russ News –
RIA Novosti – translated by J. Arnoldski –
Following the attack, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that it had studied video of the attack and said neither Russian nor Syrian government munitions had hit the aid convoy. The ministry has repeatedly stated that Russia launches its airstrikes with advance air surveillance and careful verification of data provided by the Syrian military.
Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said that analysis of the attack footage revealed no signs of bombs, suggesting that fire traces resulted from the offensive launched by Jabhat Fatah al Sham, formerly known as Nusra Front (outlawed in Russia).
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160921/1045538182/syria-russia-attack-convoy.html
The US believes that the two Russian Su-24 attack UN convoy, according to the CNN, “All the evidence we have,” – was quoted an unnamed US official.
“Ripening” accusations against the Russian FSI and Syrian Air Force allegedly strikes on humanitarian convoy of the UN in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo are not supported by the facts, said the Russian Foreign Ministry, noting that the information about it is false.
“With indignation and opposition to consider the attempts of some foreign curators and terrorist gangs in Syria blame for the incident on the Russian VKS and the Syrian Air Force, “bombed” supposedly humanitarian convoy. According to the testimony of “eyewitnesses”, of acting on the controlled fighters areas of organization “White Helmets”, in which like reference the western media, strikes from the air, and some activists allegedly even heard the noise of helicopter engines, “- said in a statement on the Russian MFA website.
“These are not supported by the facts hasty accusations, among other things, designed, it appears to be the fact, to divert attention from a strange” mistakes “admitted by the pilots of the US-led coalition antiigilovskoy 17 September, when its planes bombed positions of the Syrian government forces near the town of Deir ez- Zor “, – added in the department.
” The Russian military is checked, including with the use of objective control, in order to clarify all the details of what happened in the village Urum al-Kubra in the evening on 19 September. At the same time responsibly declare that no air strikes on the United Nations humanitarian convoy in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo, Russian or Syrian air force was not applied “, – reported in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Analysis of video from drones yesterday movement of humanitarian convoys for controlled by militants of the province of Aleppo has revealed new details.
The video clearly shows how with this convoy terrorists relocating pickup hitched mortar high caliber.
It is not clear, however, someone who “covers”: mortar – a convoy of volunteers, “White helmets”, or is it vice versa? And, most importantly, where the mortar disappeared near the end point of following convoys and who led a fire during its parking and unloading?
The humanitarian convoy, according to the Russian military, went through areas occupied by militants, and therefore accompanied by drones to the final destination. According to the Western press, killed 20 people.
“We have carefully studied the video so-called” activists “from the scene and found no signs of hitting the convoy any ammunition. There are no corresponding funnel, cars do not damage the hull and structural fractures from the blast of war aviaboepripasa all demonstrated on video frames -. a direct consequence of the fire load, which in a strange way began at the same time carrying out a large-scale attack militants in Aleppo “, – said Igor Konashenkov.
He also added that about who and what started the fire, could only reply, as always, it happened to be at the right time and in the right place with cameras representatives close to the “Dzhabhat en-Nusra” organization “White helmets”.
at the same time Konashenkov emphasized that around 13 hours and 40 minutes, all the humanitarian aid was safely delivered to the end point . After that, the Russian Center of reconciliation of the warring sides in Syria has stopped monitoring the convoy. Further movement of the convoy of the Russian side is not monitored.
“All the information about the whereabouts of the convoy was known only to controlling these areas the militants,” – added Konashenkov.
The UN said it will be called the incident “an attack”, because it can not determine whether an attack on a humanitarian convoy of the UN air strike in Syria. “We are not in a position to determine whether it was really strikes”, – quotes Reuters the UN statement.
The number of settlements that have joined the reconciliation process has increased to 642. The number of armed groups that have declared their commitment to the terms of a cessation of hostilities, remained unchanged – 69.
During the day, by the illegal armed groups recorded 45 violations of the cessation of hostilities in provinces of Aleppo (26), Damascus (11), Ham (4), Latakia (2) and Quneitra (2).
The Russian FSI and Syrian Air Force opposition armed groups, have declared a cessation of hostilities and to report to the Russian or American centers reconciliation information about their location, strikes are not applied.
Participants of the meeting of the International Support Group Syria (MTT) recognized the complexity of the moderate Syrian opposition separation from the terrorist group “Al-Nusra” in some parts of the country, the official representative of the US State Department, John Kirby.
As Russia’s envoy said the UN, Vitaly Churkin, the UN Security Council resolution on Syria will not be achieved in connection with Russia and the United States agreed. “There was no intrigue, the United States said they did not want to publish the agreement, we said that without publishing arrangements can not ask the Security Council to approve these agreements. On this we parted,” said the Russian permanent representative.
Another meeting of the International Support Group Syria will be held on 23 September. This was stated by the Foreign Minister of Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier said after a ministerial meeting of the MTT, which was held in New York on the sidelines 71 th session of the UN General Assembly.
Before the meeting of the international support of Syria group in New York, Foreign Minister of Russia and the United States held a bilateral meeting without the presence of the press.
US Secretary of State John Kerry after a meeting of the International Group of Syria’s support, said the cease-fire in the Syrian Arab Republic has not died.
Negotiations between the US and Russia on Syria reached their limits, said the head of the French Foreign Ministry Jean-Marc Eyraud after a meeting of the International Group of Syria support. “We must do everything so that the ceasefire was implemented. Without this, nothing is possible. Otherwise the war will continue to spiral. But now we must honestly say, the negotiations between the US and Russia have reached their limits. We see that there are difficulties, “- he said.
The French leader blamed for the breakdown of the truce in the country for ATS authorities and stated the need to respect the ceasefire. French President Francois Hollande accused the ATS authorities for the failure of the truce actions in the country and urged the international community to convene a United Nations Security Council on the Syrian crisis as soon as possible. The politician stressed that the international organization is necessary to achieve compliance with the ceasefire in accordance with the decisions taken, sending humanitarian aid to Aleppo and other Syrian cities, as well as the resumption of political negotiations. In addition, Francois Hollande, said the need to bring to justice those that use the chemical weapons.
In this case, the French president said that for the breakdown of the truce are responsible Syrian authorities. “The regime is responsible for its failure. I want to say to those who support it from abroad, they have to force the regime to be committed to peace. If they do not, they will also, together with the regime responsible for the division and chaos in Syria “, – concluded Francois Hollande.
British Foreign Boris Johnson said that Russia and the United States plan – “the only way to end the conflict in Syria.”
Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu said that the responsibility for violation of the truce in Syria bears the country’s government. “Unfortunately, the truce has always stopped regime and those who support it even prevented the UN humanitarian convoy At this time all the same regime bombing not only of Aleppo, but also many other cities of Syria His goal -…. IG and” Dzhebhat Al-Nusra “, a moderate opposition”, – he said.
he also said that without a ground operation to cope with the group “Islamic State” will not succeed. “We support” Free Syrian Army “(FSA) in the fight against terrorists. And we are at every meeting emphasize that without a ground operation that bloody terrorist group did not win, “- he said. Regarding Turkey’s military plans in the framework of the operation “Shield of the Euphrates,” Cavusoglu said that it is planned to achieve the creation of a security zone in northern Syria. “The plan is to cleanse the region, the so-called” pocket manbij “by the IG and turn it into a security zone. After that, the aim is to become the city of al-Bab, “- he said.
The minister recalled that the Syrian and Iraqi Raqqa to Mosul,” is considered the capital of the IG, “and the group” must be cleaned in these regions. ” “We have one enemy, and against it we should act together. After the operation in Dzharabluse all appeared confident that the IG could easily be defeated. I remind you that 65 anti-coalition acts 30 thousand militants IG “, – he said.
Syria’s future should not be based on the fate of one man, said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, noting that a military solution to the Syrian conflict does not exist and urging all those who have influence in the region and contribute to its resolution.
“I urge all those who have influence put an end to fighting and start negotiations. The political transition has long been delayed. After such violence and disorder in the management of the future of Syria should not rely on the fate of one person, “- said the UN secretary general, speaking at the UN General Assembly.
” In today’s world, the conflict in Syria takes the greatest number of lives and sow instability. Military solution to it is not. Many groups have killed many innocent – but no more than the government of Syria, which continues to drop bombs on the drum parts and systematically torturing thousands of detainees. Influential patrons who continue to feed the war machine, also have blood on their hands “- said the UN secretary general.
” In this hall today are representatives of governments who have ignored, facilitated, sponsored, participated or planned and carried out the atrocities that repaired all the Syrian conflict against the civilian population “, – said Ban Ki-moon.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon also said that the bombing outraged humanitarian convoy in Syria and expressed the hope that those responsible for the bombing, will be brought to justice.
After the air strike on the UN humanitarian convoy under the Aleppo organization decided to suspend the delivery of humanitarian aid to the country. The same decision was made and the International Committee of the Red Cross.”
http://anna-news.info/node/64841
google translate
Lavrov says Syrian airforces cannot fly at night re convoy attack claims
yet
“AlMasdarNews reports: The Russian and Syrian air forces resumed their aerial campaign over the Aleppo Governorate on Monday night, targeting several sites under the control of Jaysh Al-Fateh and Fatah Halab.
According to a military source, the Syrian and Russian air forces launched most of their airstrikes over the southern countryside of Aleppo, hitting several Jaysh Al-Fateh targets inside the villages of Khan Touman, Khalsah, Tal Al-‘Eis and Qarassi.
These airstrikes in southern Aleppo succored the Syrian Arab Army soldiers against Jaysh Al-Fateh, allowing them to drive the jihadist rebels back after a short battle.
In addition to the airstrikes over southern Aleppo, the Syrian and Russian air forces targeted the provincial capital’s northern districts, including Dahret ‘Abd Rabo, Al-Layramoun, and Bustan Al-Basha.
According to a field source in the provincial capital, the Syrian and Russian air forces conducted 100+ airstrikes over Aleppo tonight, marking the official end to the short-lived ceasefire.”
Clarification please?
more info?
“The brother of a volunteer killed in an attack on Syrian aid trucks has revealed how the convoy was pounded for hours with at least 20 missiles – after Russia denied it had launched an aerial bombardment.
Lorries packed with medicine and food were ‘erased from the face of the earth’ while 20 were killed when the convoy turned into a giant fireball in Aleppo province.
Russia has suggested the trucks caught fire amid military activity by ‘militants’ in the area and both the Kremlin and Syrian government has denied being involved in an attack.
But Ali Barakat, who works for the Red Crescent, said 20 missiles hammered the area on Monday night, killing his brother in the process.
Barakat said he threw himself on the floor when the first missile hit a car carrying his brother, Omar Barakat, also an aid worker.
The ceasefire in Syria is lying in tatters today after 12 were killed in an airstrike on an aid convoy – an outrage UN warned could amount to a war crime
The ceasefire in Syria is lying in tatters today after 12 were killed in an airstrike on an aid convoy – an outrage UN warned could amount to a war crime
Aid is seen strewn across the floor in the town of Orum al-Kubra on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Aleppo
Aid is seen strewn across the floor in the town of Orum al-Kubra on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Aleppo
UN officials said at least 18 trucks in the 31-vehicle convoy were destroyed late on Monday as it was trying to deliver humanitarian assistance to tens of thousands of civilians in the town of Orum al-Kubra
UN officials said at least 18 trucks in the 31-vehicle convoy were destroyed late on Monday as it was trying to deliver humanitarian assistance to tens of thousands of civilians in the town of Orum al-Kubra
A rescue worker who witnessed the strikes said bombs pounded the area for hours, even hitting his team as they searched the debris for survivors.
Hussein Badawi, who leads the Syrian Civil Defense – also known as the White Helmets – in Uram al-Kubra, said the strikes came from helicopters and land missiles.
He accuses Syrian and Russian aircraft of taking part in an attack that lasted more than two hours, covering a 100 yard-radius. Badawi’s team arrived on the scene after the first land missiles hit.
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note references to ‘land missiles’, western press call it bombing which of course implies airplanes, but article says “aerial attack’….says missiles…..well anything that could be launched from the ground ie mortars could be badly defined as missiles as they go through the air, but implication is still from aircraft?
I would not have thought Rus Syrian force would take two hours to destroy convoy, ergo must be rebels using their more limited means, also someone must have been on the ground reconnoitering the situation to direct the fire, as implicit is that the time took meant very accurate targeting?
“If the US and its “coalition” are, in fact, covering for ISIS, then the end for that is near. Russia issued new Rules of Engagement today, instructing its air forces and Surface-to-Air missile batteries that they are to shoot down any aircraft threatening Syrian Army forces. ”
http://www.mydailyinformer.com/warning-russia-issues-new-rules-of-engagement-in-syria-any-aircraft-threatening-the-syrian-army-will-be-shot-down-usturkeyisrael-in-the-cross-hairs/
Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said in a statement…
“No airstrikes were carried out against a humanitarian aid convoy in a southwestern suburb of Aleppo by Russian or Syrian aviation. Seeing as the convoy’s route lied through the territories controlled by militants, the Russian reconciliation center monitored its passage yesterday via drones.”
Konashenkov added that monitoring finished when all humanitarian aid was delivered at 10:40 GMT.
“Further movements of the convoy were not monitored by the Russian side. Only the militants controlling this area know details of the convoy’s location.”
Examination of video shows no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy.
“We have carefully studied videos by so-called activists from the site and found no signs of any ammunition striking the convoy. There are no shell holes, cars’ bodies are not damaged and there are no construction faults from the bust wave. All shown on the footage is a direct consequence of the cargo being set on fire. The fire strangely coincided with a major offensive by militants in Aleppo.”
Zerohedge provides this logic to the narrative…
The [Russian] ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the “White Helmets” organization that has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have “accidentally” been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.
While it is unclear why Russia would bomb a convoy it was filming and which it knew the entire world would be focused on, at least it has provided some footage to validate its statement. We now eagerly await the US “intelligence services” to present their own evidence which confirms that Russia is lying. We doubt that will be provided, and instead this will devolve into yet another instance of fingerpointing and accusatory diplomacy which will achieve nothing but escalate already deadly tensions in the region.
Zerohedge reports further on the newest Syrian war blame game…
The big geopolitical news in the aftermath of yesterday’s bombing of a UN humanitarian convoy in Syria, which according to unofficial, UK-funded “Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” was done by Russian or Syrian fighter jets, was this morning’s vocal denial by the Russia defense ministry that neither Russian nor Syrian planes were responsible for the bombing raid.
As we concluded this morning, there were two possibilities: either Russia is lying, or it is telling the truth. And since Russia should be able to back up its claims with video footage, the question emerges: did US-coalition forces or US-backed “moderate rebels” belonging to the al-Nusra, stage the attack a UN convoy in the latest “false flag” attempt to shift attention to “Russian aggression”, and seek justification to escalate the military campaign against Syria, and its proxy supporter, Russia?
To be sure, it won’t be the first time the US has “made a mistake” – just on Saturday, US-coalition forces apologized for killing dozens of Syrian troops in what Assad called “flagrant American aggression.” If confirmed, it will once again demonstrate that the western MIC will stop at nothing to escalate military conflicts, no matter the bodybount, if it means bigger military contracts courtesy of generous US taxpayers.
And since ignoring Russia’s response would mean the US was tacitly admitting was the responsible party (and lied), moments ago the WSJ reported that U.S. intelligence agencies said they believe that Russian aircraft conducted the strike that targeted a humanitarian aid convoy in northern Syria on Monday, essentially accusing the Kremlin of lying.
John Kerry initially had suggested that Syrian aircraft were responsible for the strikes on the U.N. convoy, which killed at least 12 people. However, the rhetoric escalated after U.S. officials said new intelligence indicates that Russian forces, rather than the Syrians, conducted the strike.
The WSJ also said that US officials said the Russian and Syrian governments had been notified in advance to the presence of the 31-truck convoy to ensure it wouldn’t be bombed by their forces in the area. “There was coordination ahead of time with the Russians,” a U.S. official said. Oddly, the US had not notified the Russian and Syrian governments on Saturday when a US strike killed over 60 Syrian troops in what the US later said was a “mistaken” strike.
The White House declined to comment on the new intelligence.
http://theduran.com/russia-provides-definitive-video-proof-that-us-backed-isis-jihadists-attacked-un-convoy-syria/
I just hope, that those S300s and Iglas are every bit as good as they are advertised to be.
I have a completely different take on the cease fires. Just like the rest of us, Russia certainly can see through Washington’s game. They’re not ‘hoodwinked’, they’re overpowered 10 to 1 (as Saker’s been saying) – they cannot refuse the premise of a ‘cease fire’. Russia’s recourse is to ‘accept’, then turn the AZ’s plan against them and they’ve been beyond brilliant in doing that. Especially, in Ukraine.
The stakes for Russia are far higher than the loss of Syria. Putin’s clearly a fox fighting an enraged elephant. I guarantee that for the sake of his people, he’s considering ‘surrender’ as Mr. Roberts suggests. But given the hubris of the AZ Empire, I doubt that any offer of theirs would be acceptable in any form.