Vanessa Beesley, independent journalist who has visited East Aleppo numerous times, said on RT yesterday that there was no 3G phone or internet coverage there, so all those vids of citizen journalist pleading for help on Skype etc must be hoaxes as well.
“Radio Sputnik discussed the situation in East Aleppo with Vanessa Beeley, an investigative journalist and peace activist, who has just returned from the city and is currently in the Syrian capital, Damascus.
“One man in a wheel-chair said that he hadn’t received any medical help since the Aleppo doctors left in 2013. So this was a catalogue of horror stories but not to do with Syrian Arab Army, it was to do with these NATO and Gulf States funded terrorists who had been imprisoning these people and using them as human shields, raping their daughters, imprisoning eight-year old children.”
Beeley said that in East Aleppo when she asked the civilians of whether they faced any brutality at the hands of the Syrian Arab Army, “they looked at me as if I am insane. They told me that the army liberated them. They took us to safety in their own trucks back to Jibreen out of East Aleppo and provided them with food, warmth etc.”
“What really sickens me is that our Western media is still grandstanding, complaining about the liberation of Aleppo when in fact what they are doing is empowering those militants, radicals, terrorists and justifying the fact that they are holding those people hostage… And this is a problem today. When you see Western media continue to paint those so-called rebels as the good guys we have a really big problem. There is an issue here. It’s not even semantic at this stage. We have Western capitals enabling terrorism, and we are supposed to go along with it. Enough is enough…“
1st list of western & GCC army officers captured by Syrian Army in their East Aleppo underground HQs;
Moataz Augusto Lacan oglu – turc
David Scott weiner – américain
David Shlomo Aram – israélien
Mohamed Cheikh de l’islam al tamimi. – national
Mohamed Ahmed – saoudien
Abdel Moneim Fahd Al Ḩryj – Saoudien
Salem Al Islam zahran – saoudien
Ahmad Ibn Nawfal Aldridge-Saoudien
Mohamed Hassan Al-Sebaiei – Saoudien
Hamid Fahd Dosari – Saoudien
Amjad Kassem Tirawi – jordanien
Kassem Saad Al Shammari – Saoudien
Ayman Kassem Thâalbi – Saoudien
Mohamed Shafeiei El Idrissi – Marocain”
Rien d’étonnant! En voilà la raison pour laquelle les presstitutes ont commencé de faire toute sorte de bruit au sujet des “pauvres gens” qui n’ont pas réussi à foutre le camp d’Alep…
Anéantissez-les sans attendre.
“We are not all bilingual. As a courtesy, please provide translation in future, as I have done for you… this time. fk mod”
English! “Nothing suprising! This is why the presstitutes have begun to make all sorts of noise about the “poor people” who failed to fuck the Alep camp …
If this list is real and accurate, we now know why Kerry was so long in the face (sorry, couldn’t resist) about not being able to get his most recent ceasefire. And also why the US-backed “moderate terrorists” held out when defeat was inevitable, knowing that the civilians would get the worst of the no-alternative SAA/Russian offensive. Also explains why the US/Saudis sprung the Palmyra attack to try to draw Syrian/Russian forces from Aleppo. Occam’s Razor in action. No making the same mistake as allowed the US/NATO “advisers” to escape the Debaltsevo cauldron.
Using civilians as human shields is war crime of the worst sort, and these “officers” should be prosecuted and be given the harshest judgements available under Syrian law. Including the death penalty. Syria under no circumstances should hand these venal criminals back to their home countries. Unless Obama or Clinton want to serve the American’s sentence, and the Saudi Royals will take the place of their loyal subjects.
Funny, those Saudis seem to be in the middle of so much heinous crime, like 9/11…
Then the US/NATO/Saudi Royals/etc. would have claimed they were killed on purpose by the SAA/Russia. I’d bet these “officers” had hoped (had orders?) to escape or die, but the Russian advisers learned much when the US operatives managed to escape the Debaltsevo cauldron.
No, they make much better diplomatic displays/bargaining chips alive.
The back story behind the CIA’s leaked claim of Russia helping Donald Trump is an attempt to hobble Trump’s less-hawkish foreign policy before he even gets into the White House, says ex-British diplomat Alastair Crooke.
Its an absolute disgrace that RT allows pro-terrorist spokesmen to join in discussions. and to “filibuster” the conversation. As I’ve said many times ,RT “must” be cleansed of the pro-Western 5th column that infiltrates “far ” too much of its reporting.The Russian government “may” be under the “mistaken” thinking that by allowing these people to have a “voice”,even allowing RT presenters to call terrorists as “militants” they show themselves as “unbiased”.But instead it is a serious error.If we wanted to see Western propaganda we could view ,any and all Western MSM. I’m so tired of people like here on Saker,and on other blogs being more loyal to Russia’s position,than Russia’s “own” state media.That is actually shocking to me.In this latest case they have a Salafist supporter from the UK. A man that is almost beyond question not even of Syrian background.And from his accent,almost certainly a British born or raised (or both) Islamist activist spreading Salafist propaganda.Its just shocking,the stupidity there in allowing that.Just what success are we supposed to have when we must not only struggle against the West,but then must struggle against people supposedly on Russia’s own side.I can’t even voice how angry that makes me.
You are right Uncle Bob 1. However, I think RT “has” these individuals on to show they provide differing opinions and it leaves the viewer to make up thier mind and “think more”. It also shows up the guests like this for who they truly are and what the multi-polar world is up against. The question is who in RT got this obscure guy a platform?
I watched this live and in the news re runs and everytime the salafist non-Syrian spoke – I muted my tv; when Eva Bartlett spoke – I listened. So at least one can chose what one wants to hear too! ;).
“For years, the CIA has directly and indirectly been arming so-called ‘moderate’ rebels who are allied with al-Qaeda to overthrow [the] Syrian gov[ernment],” Gabbard tweeted on Friday night.
Although outgoing US President Barack Obama addressed the humanitarian needs of the people in the Syrian city of Aleppo during his press conference on Friday afternoon, he failed to address his administration’s “actions fueling the crisis,” Gabbard also said.
“This is why I introduced #StopArmingTerroristsAct — to end this madness which is causing great suffering, while strengthening al Qaeda,” Gabbard stated on Twitter.
On December 8, Gabbard introduced the Stop Arming Terrorits Act, which would prohibit the United States from using US taxpayer dollars to provide funding, weapons, training and intelligence support to terrorist groups such as the Islamic State.”
“Voltaire Network — The Security Council meets in secret, Friday 16 December 2016 at 17.00 universal time – NATO officers were arrested this morning by Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in East Aleppo.”
Very interesting short video from a French political talk show. An ex-French FM relates that 2 years “before” the Syrian war started he was told on a visit to England. That the revolt and war against Syria was being prepared by the British at that time. And he was asked if he wanted France to join with them in the plot. That would seem to me more than enough preliminary evidence for war crimes charges to be investigated.A court needs to be assembled inside Russia to start that investigation,and to bring charges.
Terrorist groups are fighting each others in Idlib area.
” “The differences have increased among the Jund al-Aqsa and Ahrar al-Sham terrorist groups in Ariha region in Idlib province in the Northwestern part of Syria,” the Arabic-language media quoted an informed source as saying.
“The differences intensified between the two terrorist groups after a Jund al-Aqsa terrorist attacked the brother of the commander of Ahrar al-Sham’s Ariha Battalion,” the sources said.
Infighting has increased among rival terrorist groups in Idlib province after they have come under the Syrian army siege and lost vast parts of lands across Syria, specially in neighboring Aleppo, to the government forces. ”
Professor Vitaly Naumkin, the president of the Moscow-based Institute of Oriental Studies:
“I hope Assad will not be reluctant but more responsive to pressure from his own constituency, from the people of Syria who are divided – there are a lot of loyalists and there are opponents – as well as more responsive to the pressures of his partners and accept a political process,”
“First of all, Assad is obliged to his partners, including Russia which has been supporting him in his victory.Number two: In my view he understands that without some reforms and without some change, he cannot succeed in establishing control over the whole country and hold it and neutralise the opposition. So he has to make concessions. Russia is telling him that there is no military solution.”
“Ba’athist policy is based on Arabism and one Arab nation in Syria, but the minorities want more guarantees.”
The rebels are burning the buses meant for the evacuation of civilians. They are killing the bus drivers – including by burning them alive inside the buses.
It is disgusting to me all these deals with the rebels/terrorists. They should be destroyed and not negotiated with (they never keep their word) and shuffled off to other parts of Syria.
The Syrian government forces need to be much, much tougher on them and stop dealing with them like they are reasonable humans.
A “very” confusing story is being reported on by RT. On one hand they say that a French UNSC resolution is called a good text by Russia’s UN Ambassador. And will be voted on Monday.With the US UN Ambassador, the infamous Powers, saying they expect it to be passed.And then in the same story, they say Russia thinks its a bad resolution and shouldn’t go through. After reading Russia’s objection to it. I would agree it shouldn’t go through. So why then are they implying that Russia will agree to a resolution they rightly object to.That makes little sense to me.If you disagree with a resolution,you veto it. Especially as the reasons you object to it are so valid.Is there another worthless backroom “deal” afoot here. Or is RT just not reporting accurately the story.We shall see tomorrow I suppose,which it is. One would think that after being constantly lied to by the West. That “someday” Russia will wake up to the fact you can’t expect a deal with them to work.Tomorrow will give us a clue as to whether that “someday” is this day,or not:
Aleppo Twitter Girl Bana Is the ‘Ultimate Propaganda Stunt’ – Syrian Activist
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612161048599179-aleppo-bana-twitter/
Fairly easily exposed as propaganda originating from the uk.
Vanessa Beesley, independent journalist who has visited East Aleppo numerous times, said on RT yesterday that there was no 3G phone or internet coverage there, so all those vids of citizen journalist pleading for help on Skype etc must be hoaxes as well.
Aleppo Liberation Exposed Mainstream Media and Their Lies About Syria
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612161048664425-aleppo-liberation-media-lies/
“Radio Sputnik discussed the situation in East Aleppo with Vanessa Beeley, an investigative journalist and peace activist, who has just returned from the city and is currently in the Syrian capital, Damascus.
“One man in a wheel-chair said that he hadn’t received any medical help since the Aleppo doctors left in 2013. So this was a catalogue of horror stories but not to do with Syrian Arab Army, it was to do with these NATO and Gulf States funded terrorists who had been imprisoning these people and using them as human shields, raping their daughters, imprisoning eight-year old children.”
Beeley said that in East Aleppo when she asked the civilians of whether they faced any brutality at the hands of the Syrian Arab Army, “they looked at me as if I am insane. They told me that the army liberated them. They took us to safety in their own trucks back to Jibreen out of East Aleppo and provided them with food, warmth etc.”
Western capitals, reeling over Syria, ‘consumed by mass hysteria & propaganda’
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/370551-syria-liberation-aleppo-russia/
“What really sickens me is that our Western media is still grandstanding, complaining about the liberation of Aleppo when in fact what they are doing is empowering those militants, radicals, terrorists and justifying the fact that they are holding those people hostage… And this is a problem today. When you see Western media continue to paint those so-called rebels as the good guys we have a really big problem. There is an issue here. It’s not even semantic at this stage. We have Western capitals enabling terrorism, and we are supposed to go along with it. Enough is enough…“
Via Nicolas De Genty, dec 16th
1st list of western & GCC army officers captured by Syrian Army in their East Aleppo underground HQs;
Moataz Augusto Lacan oglu – turc
David Scott weiner – américain
David Shlomo Aram – israélien
Mohamed Cheikh de l’islam al tamimi. – national
Mohamed Ahmed – saoudien
Abdel Moneim Fahd Al Ḩryj – Saoudien
Salem Al Islam zahran – saoudien
Ahmad Ibn Nawfal Aldridge-Saoudien
Mohamed Hassan Al-Sebaiei – Saoudien
Hamid Fahd Dosari – Saoudien
Amjad Kassem Tirawi – jordanien
Kassem Saad Al Shammari – Saoudien
Ayman Kassem Thâalbi – Saoudien
Mohamed Shafeiei El Idrissi – Marocain”
To be continued….
Ho ho… ho!
Rien d’étonnant! En voilà la raison pour laquelle les presstitutes ont commencé de faire toute sorte de bruit au sujet des “pauvres gens” qui n’ont pas réussi à foutre le camp d’Alep…
Anéantissez-les sans attendre.
“We are not all bilingual. As a courtesy, please provide translation in future, as I have done for you… this time. fk mod”
English! “Nothing suprising! This is why the presstitutes have begun to make all sorts of noise about the “poor people” who failed to fuck the Alep camp …
Annihilate them without waiting.”
Make that: “get the hell out of Aleppo”
Excellent news — thank you, Fabien.
If this list is real and accurate, we now know why Kerry was so long in the face (sorry, couldn’t resist) about not being able to get his most recent ceasefire. And also why the US-backed “moderate terrorists” held out when defeat was inevitable, knowing that the civilians would get the worst of the no-alternative SAA/Russian offensive. Also explains why the US/Saudis sprung the Palmyra attack to try to draw Syrian/Russian forces from Aleppo. Occam’s Razor in action. No making the same mistake as allowed the US/NATO “advisers” to escape the Debaltsevo cauldron.
Using civilians as human shields is war crime of the worst sort, and these “officers” should be prosecuted and be given the harshest judgements available under Syrian law. Including the death penalty. Syria under no circumstances should hand these venal criminals back to their home countries. Unless Obama or Clinton want to serve the American’s sentence, and the Saudi Royals will take the place of their loyal subjects.
Funny, those Saudis seem to be in the middle of so much heinous crime, like 9/11…
It’s too bad at least the Saudis among them weren’t killed during capture.
Then the US/NATO/Saudi Royals/etc. would have claimed they were killed on purpose by the SAA/Russia. I’d bet these “officers” had hoped (had orders?) to escape or die, but the Russian advisers learned much when the US operatives managed to escape the Debaltsevo cauldron.
No, they make much better diplomatic displays/bargaining chips alive.
Liberal spokesman talk about “russian scum”! The hatred for Russian campaign against ISIS and Hillary loosing is fcking disgusting.
Keith Olbermann’s Mental Breakdown Over Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XshMnvx6lw
WWIII back in the headlines
Politicized Intelligence Kneecapping Trump
The back story behind the CIA’s leaked claim of Russia helping Donald Trump is an attempt to hobble Trump’s less-hawkish foreign policy before he even gets into the White House, says ex-British diplomat Alastair Crooke.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/16/politicized-intelligence-kneecapping-trump/
US to ship 1,600 tanks to Dutch arms depot in ‘clear message’ to Russia
https://www.rt.com/news/370575-us-tanks-holland-nato-russia/
I would not be surprised by a big false flag,an attack on Assad or in the Donbass/Crimea just before 01/20 if ever Trump is elected or still…alive?
Its an absolute disgrace that RT allows pro-terrorist spokesmen to join in discussions. and to “filibuster” the conversation. As I’ve said many times ,RT “must” be cleansed of the pro-Western 5th column that infiltrates “far ” too much of its reporting.The Russian government “may” be under the “mistaken” thinking that by allowing these people to have a “voice”,even allowing RT presenters to call terrorists as “militants” they show themselves as “unbiased”.But instead it is a serious error.If we wanted to see Western propaganda we could view ,any and all Western MSM. I’m so tired of people like here on Saker,and on other blogs being more loyal to Russia’s position,than Russia’s “own” state media.That is actually shocking to me.In this latest case they have a Salafist supporter from the UK. A man that is almost beyond question not even of Syrian background.And from his accent,almost certainly a British born or raised (or both) Islamist activist spreading Salafist propaganda.Its just shocking,the stupidity there in allowing that.Just what success are we supposed to have when we must not only struggle against the West,but then must struggle against people supposedly on Russia’s own side.I can’t even voice how angry that makes me.
https://www.rt.com/news/370581-syria-news-sources-debate/
You are right Uncle Bob 1. However, I think RT “has” these individuals on to show they provide differing opinions and it leaves the viewer to make up thier mind and “think more”. It also shows up the guests like this for who they truly are and what the multi-polar world is up against. The question is who in RT got this obscure guy a platform?
I watched this live and in the news re runs and everytime the salafist non-Syrian spoke – I muted my tv; when Eva Bartlett spoke – I listened. So at least one can chose what one wants to hear too! ;).
US Arming Opposition Rebels in Syria Allied With Al-Qaeda – Congresswoman
https://sputniknews.com/us/201612171048679754-us-armed-syria-al-qaeda/
“For years, the CIA has directly and indirectly been arming so-called ‘moderate’ rebels who are allied with al-Qaeda to overthrow [the] Syrian gov[ernment],” Gabbard tweeted on Friday night.
Although outgoing US President Barack Obama addressed the humanitarian needs of the people in the Syrian city of Aleppo during his press conference on Friday afternoon, he failed to address his administration’s “actions fueling the crisis,” Gabbard also said.
“This is why I introduced #StopArmingTerroristsAct — to end this madness which is causing great suffering, while strengthening al Qaeda,” Gabbard stated on Twitter.
On December 8, Gabbard introduced the Stop Arming Terrorits Act, which would prohibit the United States from using US taxpayer dollars to provide funding, weapons, training and intelligence support to terrorist groups such as the Islamic State.”
Well, it seems that there were not only Saudis amongst the “advisers” in Aleppo, but several NATO officers were also arrested yesterday morning:
“The Security Council meets in secret after the arrest of NATO officers in Aleppo”
http://www.voltairenet.org/article194590.html
“Voltaire Network — The Security Council meets in secret, Friday 16 December 2016 at 17.00 universal time – NATO officers were arrested this morning by Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in East Aleppo.”
Very interesting short video from a French political talk show. An ex-French FM relates that 2 years “before” the Syrian war started he was told on a visit to England. That the revolt and war against Syria was being prepared by the British at that time. And he was asked if he wanted France to join with them in the plot. That would seem to me more than enough preliminary evidence for war crimes charges to be investigated.A court needs to be assembled inside Russia to start that investigation,and to bring charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY
Terrorist groups are fighting each others in Idlib area.
” “The differences have increased among the Jund al-Aqsa and Ahrar al-Sham terrorist groups in Ariha region in Idlib province in the Northwestern part of Syria,” the Arabic-language media quoted an informed source as saying.
“The differences intensified between the two terrorist groups after a Jund al-Aqsa terrorist attacked the brother of the commander of Ahrar al-Sham’s Ariha Battalion,” the sources said.
Infighting has increased among rival terrorist groups in Idlib province after they have come under the Syrian army siege and lost vast parts of lands across Syria, specially in neighboring Aleppo, to the government forces. ”
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950928000962
Professor Vitaly Naumkin, the president of the Moscow-based Institute of Oriental Studies:
“I hope Assad will not be reluctant but more responsive to pressure from his own constituency, from the people of Syria who are divided – there are a lot of loyalists and there are opponents – as well as more responsive to the pressures of his partners and accept a political process,”
“First of all, Assad is obliged to his partners, including Russia which has been supporting him in his victory.Number two: In my view he understands that without some reforms and without some change, he cannot succeed in establishing control over the whole country and hold it and neutralise the opposition. So he has to make concessions. Russia is telling him that there is no military solution.”
“Ba’athist policy is based on Arabism and one Arab nation in Syria, but the minorities want more guarantees.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/18/russia-tells-assad-there-is-no-military-solution-for-syria/
The rebels are burning the buses meant for the evacuation of civilians. They are killing the bus drivers – including by burning them alive inside the buses.
It is disgusting to me all these deals with the rebels/terrorists. They should be destroyed and not negotiated with (they never keep their word) and shuffled off to other parts of Syria.
The Syrian government forces need to be much, much tougher on them and stop dealing with them like they are reasonable humans.
A “very” confusing story is being reported on by RT. On one hand they say that a French UNSC resolution is called a good text by Russia’s UN Ambassador. And will be voted on Monday.With the US UN Ambassador, the infamous Powers, saying they expect it to be passed.And then in the same story, they say Russia thinks its a bad resolution and shouldn’t go through. After reading Russia’s objection to it. I would agree it shouldn’t go through. So why then are they implying that Russia will agree to a resolution they rightly object to.That makes little sense to me.If you disagree with a resolution,you veto it. Especially as the reasons you object to it are so valid.Is there another worthless backroom “deal” afoot here. Or is RT just not reporting accurately the story.We shall see tomorrow I suppose,which it is. One would think that after being constantly lied to by the West. That “someday” Russia will wake up to the fact you can’t expect a deal with them to work.Tomorrow will give us a clue as to whether that “someday” is this day,or not:
https://www.rt.com/news/370691-russia-aleppo-resolution-monitors/