Let Pax American die a quiet death, lest they try and annihilate the world along with their demise. Something to consider, did any of the other candidates serve in the military?
Yes, push it, it’s the non-ego half of the zodiac
we are sailing now till spring
Obama had pushed the focus
the Donald had appeared
with the invisible wings of spirit
consisting on true interests of
anyone/part of mankind
She’s fearless. That’s very important. Most people are silent with fear.”
Both statement are true.
She is fearless. And most people are silent with fear, including myself. I post here but I am very reluctant to bring up my opinions in social circles. The mainstream propaganda is so thorough and relentless that I won’t convince anyone about anything – except that they will end up believing that I am crazy.
I only talk politics in two situations.
One, I talk to those people whom I believe might be receptive to change.
Two, I talk to people who know my background and who know that I have had access to information that they don’t.
In both cases, rather than being ridiculed as a “conspiracy theorist,” I often find myself met with looks of astonishment.
Early in her campaign I tried to send money but the funds process picked up I was not a US citizen.
I got a personal email (responding directly to comments I added in the space provided on the fundraising form) politely refusing foreign donations and thanking me for my moral support.
No $25 million from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (as in Hilary’s campaign) or $AUD30 million (from Australian government to the Clinton Foundation) funds for Tulsi.
I think she at last deserves a reward for calling out Hillary.
I have donated.
I hope that Tulsi challenges Hillary to a debated — sponsored by the League of Women Voters, of course.
Let’s separate the champions from the bitches right now.
It’s a kind of apocalypse Tulsi refers to, currently
to me it’s the moral question on the
Inhabitants of US, the full blow of them, and not the ‘players’ only, I follow the
message, America has a historic President dodging the bullets, too tricky for their traps
made of pure American ( poker-nation) stuff, but with wings
he’s rocking hell currently for stabilities’ sake
compare the three
She is very articulate and convincing. However, she is still one person, and will remain one person even if she gets elected as President. What can one person do against the elite ? Trump made many promises during the last election and ended up surrounded by the neocons. Makes you wonder if he was sincere in the first place, and if he was, he obviously proved he could not go against the Deep State. Finally, even though Tulsi Gabbard is very attractive both as a woman and as a political candidate, I am still unhappy that her name was on the Roster of the Council on Foreign Relations, and we all know who created that.
Her name being on the CFR list, plus her decision to swallow the zionist kool-aid and voting in favor of criminalizing the BDS movement made me stop to contribute financially to her campaign and remove my name from her mailing list.
If you don’t vote you deserve the Clintons.What exact has TG said that is not true? Since WWII US has
been in constant wars, US has supported the most brutal dictatorial regimes on the planet. From Pinochet in Chile to PolPot in Cambodia to Sigmund Rhee in Korea to Samosa in Nicoragua and hundreds of others who were as bad as Charle Manson. The Clintons take money from Kosovo drug lords who sell human organThe Clintons need to be exposed and jailed. TG is a socialist and why not. The most prosperous , the best educated, the most liveable societies are socialist countries of Northern Europe and TG is smart enough to see this. What does US rank first in; crime ,guns, poverty, illiteracy, gun death, crumbling infrastructure, wars, child poverty, phornography, drugs. TG wants to eliminate this while people like the Clintons make money from it . Shameful bastards.
TG will talk a good game and then do the same as all the others. If it were different she could not be selected as a Democratic candidate. The only way out of this the long game of building a third party movement, i.e. Greens.
I fear she is just a replacement for Hillary Clinton. Are we to expect that a major in the US military and a member (or former member of the Council on Foreign Relations – depending on sources) will go against the US Military Industrial Complex and the banks ? I think not, even if she wanted to. The institutions she would be facing would prove to be too powerful. Look what happened to JFK.
Interesting point.
That would surely “kick the chessboard”, and then, WHAT..?
But to get it, I think you need A LOT of people with good info, and very critic thinking.
I suffer the same here in Argentina, just days before another fraudulent election.
Regards..!
(BTW, God bless Tulsi, anyway…)
There should be a constitutional amendment allowing people to vote for “None of the Above.”
If “None of the Above” got 40 per cent of the votes, the election would have to be done over and the candidates in the first election could not run again.
I use 40 per cent for the following reason. If 40 per cent of the electorate hates all the candidates, then something is seriously wrong and there should be “do over.”
Yes, finally we may start to have a discussion of actual core issues. I intend to stand on a street corner on Nov 11 holding a sign that says on one side, “Bring the troops home Now” And the other side saying “ No endless war”.
Will report back mid November on the experience.
Signing off from the Transhumanian Front of the War against Humanity
Everyone who runs is “against” war and corruption. Everyone who runs is going to “change” things. Eisenhower was president when I was young. Since then the only person that didn’t want to play ball was Kennedy and you see what that got him. I am beginning to agree with the Wobblies that capitalism can’t be reformed. From my view point there’s been a bullet with the name of a change maker on it since I’ve been alive. Think Malcolm, Martin, RFK, JFK…………Seth Rich. The rot is so endemic that changing a few corrupt players in office will just result in replacing those who wait in the wings. I wish I could churn up ANY enthusiasm for this miasma of bull shit but I have lived too long to delude myself anymore.
I am also beginning to think that capitalism cannot be reformed. Roosevelt reformed it somewhat in the 30’s and it is all being undone. Europe – after world war II – provided social welfare programs for their citizens and that is, also, being undone. It seems like it is capitalism’s nature to corrupt any system that seeks to limit its abuses.
Mike – You are right – Capitalism cannot be reformed. Only killed. It is in fact a false religion, taught to us by our British betters. Regards Roosevelt; those close to him assert that in the late 1930’s he concluded that the only way to save his economic program and his Presidency was to create World War Two. This was the way he chose to initiate the employment creating process of re-armament. Before Hitler Roosevelt was planning massive rearmament. For this he had to create war. A dirty secret well kept from all. So even the “saintly” FDR proves the absolute evil of capitalism. Not to be definitionally conflated with honest and fairly balanced free enterprise, as I believe Larch does. Regarding Tulsi Gabbard; the thing I like about her is that, according to my research, universal salvation is in the hands of the feminine principle. Tulsi is doing a good job of personifying that in my opinion.
How can any Democrat justify in their minds picking anyone but her as their candidate????!
This is watershed moment for Democrats. Do they truly believe in their positions or are they puppets following corrupt puppet masters?
I have many FB friends that are blindly repeating ignorant positions that are opposite of what they say they stand for. I do not let these people stay ignorant tools of corrupt elite. I try to educate them on these positions and why that position is against what they say they stand for. I notice a little bit of progress in that they go silent after a while. Silence is consent that their position was ignorant and wrong. But they are not willing to openly admit it yet.
You have to have patience and walk someone into a position where it is ok to admit they were wrong and you are not judging them for that but, instead, sincerely trying to help them because both of you want what is right even if it is the tougher path to follow.
The Democratic Party IS the corrupt elite. There will be NO ‘democracy’ of any real type, NO social justice, NO equality and comity in societies, and NO human race unless the cancer ethos of the global parasite species, capitalism, is ended, once and for all. It is getting very late in the day, too.
Representative democracy is an oxymoron. How can it be a democracy, if someone else (the elected) is choosing for me?! You just buy the elected, and…. Good morning oligarchy.
And direct democracy (something we won’t see in our life time) is a lesser way to run a country.
Just ask Plato.
These clips are a waste of time, in my most honest opinion. You are just giving people false hope. (Which is the main goal of representative democracy – false hope)
And you provide no alternative solution. SO people are just supposed to give up?
No, people try, they work at it. People face a losing battle and they forge forward despite the odds against them.
That is the human spirit, you can’t stop it. They game theory and AI things til they are blue in the face but the human spirit they cannot defeat. Syria shows that. Brexit to some extent. Sometimes wildcards come out of nowhere and change history. Putin being biggest example in modern times.
Human emotion is treated as a childish thing, but it has the power to change the world.
I was one of thousands who participated in a process where they tried to force a superhighway down our throats. Imminent domain, artificially low property valuations for buyouts, corrupt deal for 99 year lease to foreign company. We blocked it within the system and process they set up. We made national news on a local issue and because of that, the same attempt was blocked in another state as well.
There were no riots over it, we didn’t trash local businesses or run around like thugs. We learned the process and worked it hard, we exposed the corruption of the process while we participated in it. It’s the only way you really learn how it works and how to counter it.
Tip:
The cornerstone of Bureaucracy is the requirement for a signature on EVERYTHING. It is the signer who you focus on. Learn EVERYTHING about them and apply pressure points. That is how it is done. Once that obscure signer is brought out into the light and made a household name, they crumble like a stale oatmeal cookie. I met an official who was intimidating as heck to start, I was personally intimidated. 2 years later, he was a shell of the man he was. Fidgety, digging at an empty styrofoam coffee cup as we talked, dark circles under his eyes… I almost felt bad for him until I remembered all the hell he had put me through having to defend my home.
I can only say that the entire American political class combined with the mainstream media has really become an entertainment show. Its a form of amusement and ridicule.
She looks good & sounds good, but isn’t everyone who makes it this far part of the (corrupt) Elite?????
Telling us what we want to hear only to disappoint once elected?
Beautifully said. I can’t agree more. Furthermore, the truth is that when these dumb assess say they’ll fix the education and healthcare systems or stop nation building, wars, corruption, etc., the exact opposite happens. I hope people will start recognizing this. Otherwise why vote for these liars?
Democracy is sold as “Freedom” when it is Mob Rule.
And the only “choice” is between THEIR two choices.
Both being run by the same people/agenda behind the scenes.
The DNC is a ‘legal entity’. Legal entities do not have any Life, or inherent power, in and of themselves. Therefore, be mindful and do not stray from the path of Truth.
My wife and I support Gabbard. I don’t like her support for Israel (against BDS but not in favor of making it illegal) and her membership on the CFR but I’ve watched her since she resigned her vice chair of the DNC and supported and campaigned for Sanders. Since then she has been smeared, threatened, shunned and attacked: that’s been going on since late February, 2016! That’s a long time! Hillary’s lackys threatened to “primary” her and did. Clinton did not want Gabbard to introduce Sanders at the DNC convention in July, 2016. She has been up against a very powerful mafia– the Clinton controlled DNC– and she has not flinched. Listen to what she says and watch what she does, totally consistent. Eventually, I believe her antipathy toward the Saudi mafia and now openly challenging by name Trump and Clinton will bring Israel’s lobby out to fight her. She is a courageous, principled human being and worthy of our support.
ActBlue trolls, 77th whatever, 8200, they’re a lot of them getting paid to sh*t all over Gabbard.
Not argue with her, not debate many points she should be debated on. Just to spray sh(t mist over any enthusiasm.
Enthusiasm must be killed, they say. And as usual, the minute I post a damned thing, I expect them to come out like the cockroaches they are.
In fact, it’s an insult to cockroaches to compare them to the trolls. But let it be noted: On Zero Hedge, more of the ActBlue jerks came out to slam Gabbard within the last 24 hours than had ever been seen on a thread about, say, Biden. This is a fact. I suspect they are here, wearing fashionable bullsh*t talk but walking no walk at all, except to insult her and insult everyone who sees a ray of light here. Rays of light? No, we can’t have that.
I always listen to Vot when he’s got critiques on anything, or Bro or anyone else with a record here. Don’t always agree with them, but they are consistent, they have a style, they stand up for what they believe in. The trolls appear out of nowhere. I.e. “Tulsi is a groomed CIA agent…” etc.
I’m not saying I know who and what she is, but I honestly think that’s bullsh*t.
The anti-Tulsi, ActBlue troll brigade are really something to watch.
The paid trolls are, I suspect, already here. It will be very instructive to watch their antics.
dear ActivePatriot, you already know the solution!
ActivePatriot on October 20, 2019 · at 3:01 pm EST/EDT
“You should know it is an extremely difficult thing to change American policy when much of the lifestyle Americans enjoy are based on the exploitation of the rest of the world.”
but you won’t change. You won’t do the right thing.
WHY?
coz instinctively you know to change is to put USSA to death.
To do the right thing is to put USSA to death.
To change and to do the right thing is to put yourself to death.
That’s why you won’t change. You won’t do the right thing
But as a military person (I presume) you know there is death in shame and death in honour.
Most USSA don’t know and don’t care.
Which I feel, really feel for you all, the western ‘THE PPL”.
So is it up to the foreign forces, the new world, the Eurasia to do the right thing TO YOU?
To AP and all who’s interest are implicated —>
Is TG gonna be like Barry? Barry sold you all hopium and you like that too. Even after you found out barry may not have the right birthcert and all kinds of movie clip has been produce to ‘solidify’ the ‘evidence’, and the only “witness” strangely drown in a plane crash while everybody else was intact, without a scratch.
Solution? Its above your paygrade.
But here is it FREE for you —> The problem is not the candidate. Why? because that’s how they structure the regime and call it ‘democracy’ and by giving you the illusion of vote, that is illusion of personal power and personal choice, which you have neither.
The problem is the system, the law, and the money.
So the SOLUTION IS —> Storm the Bastille !
There is no other way. You don’t choose this candidate or that candidate. You don’t reject this candidate or that candidate.
You reject the system. You reject their FAKE “republic”.
As Saker, mentioned (if I understand correctly) and many other deep thinkers here,
you already lost the republic.
Or as I said here, you are on occupied land, and you are the aggressor and invader on this land, you need to mediated that and fix that – even if its to return the land to the natives.
But you won’t do that.
To do the right thing is to put USSA to death.
To change and to do the right thing is to put yourself to death.
That’s why I said, its above your paygrade. And its tough!
Either you continue the exploitation and the rest of the world suffers and being murdered,
Or…
Does TG has the magic solution WHILE IN THEIR SYSTEM?
If Orange man cannot do it, I doubt TG can even…
Again, its really really really sad to come to this…
Pls do be safe, you, and you family and your cultural group
Let this sink in, this is a MASSIVE shift in mindset. One of those difficult things that need to happen to change course in America and it is happening. The Pro war Right is war weary after nearly 2 decades of lousy results. The Democrats are exposing their ignorance by supporting war purely to be contrarian to Trump.
Fighters know that constant fighting makes you weaker. You need breaks in between to train and develop new tactics. They also know that these “low level” wars have taken our focus off being ready for a big one, the one that REALLY is a threat. They know our enemies have had the last 2 decades to watch our performance on the battlefield and learn how to counter. They also get frustrated when we hold back things that we don’t want our enemies to see in battle, so they feel we are fighting with one arm tied behind our back. Just as Russia does not field advanced version of S300, S400, S500 in low level conflict in Syria, US does not field most advanced weapons systems either.
The common problem I see here is highlighted by your views.
You put yourself outside the system, fight by rejecting it, waiting for revolution that will never come. There will be no violent revolution in the U.S. despite so many peoples hopes for it.
Have the color revolutions done by CIA taught you nothing? Revolutions from the start are seeded with traitors to the cause. Name a violent revolution in modern times that actually made peoples lives better afterward.
You think 1 person can’t come along and make a difference? Putin is proof otherwise.
“Storm the Bastille ” is no solution.
What do people storm in this highly complex empire? Congress? The Federal Reserve? The hundreds of military bases? The IRS? The local police department? Your solution is a vague call to arms with no set objective. A goal with no plan, a non-starter.
While you wait for your non-starter solution, you are a non-participant in viable solutions. You withhold support for good (maybe not perfect) people working to make a change who need that support. You wait for the perfect moment or perfect person to come along and it just doesn’t work like that. You go into battle with the soldiers you have, not the soldiers you dream of.
Yours and others distaste for Trump I understand, I’m not a huge fan of him either. But do you know what this world would be like if Hillary had won like she was supposed to? We would be neck deep in Syria right now, danger close to full scale war in ME. As it stands, the only thing our House of representatives agrees on is condemning Trump for not going to war with Turkey.
You think it is above my pay grade to try?
No, everyone who has a stake in this does their part. Taking losses in life is not failure. Failure is quitting, or worse, not trying.
I don’t know how much you follow American conversations but there is a tide turning. In a country of 350 million that takes a while though. Pandora’s box has been opened here though and despite the elite’s efforts to close it, it’s staying open.
Last,
America does not need to be a part of the empire to be successful in this world. I worked around the world and many like working with us because of how we do things. We have good quality controls, a flexible management style and strong work ethic. I could list the strengths and weaknesses of the different cultures around the world but that is a subject into itself. I know first hand what we are good at and we do have a competitive place in this world. We will be just fine when the empire ends.
Dear AP, first of all, Peace to you and I hope to see more of your kind in USSA :)
but having said that, yes,
I took it as hopeless and a lost cause to try.
Why? Because the regime is setup for THEPPL to fail and be murdered by food, air, vax, health care, money system… the lot. And that is just a start…
Thus I think the only option left now, is the ppl are still willing to fight, is to storm. and YES you are right, I am vague, and yes, deliberately.
But a few points if I may,
1) I have resisted to post anything re. your country but saw that TG could be a barry 2.0 and remember how dissolution ppl were after, so I took the risk. (Remark regarding moderators removed: The Mod.)
2) I actually like DJT I see much more than most here on his madness and methods
3) Putin is NOT one man. Putin has a team of Magicians behind and in front of him. One particular was invited (or rather strong usher) out of the deep woods for this time of change. Thats is the defining cause for his ‘success’ thus far. The war is in the unseen realms.
4) Its your turf, your destiny. May your god be kinder to you.
5) The world is not waiting for change or playing the game no more – I think you agree with me on this one maybe? So whatever comes after, comes.
Again, I may sound overly extreme pessimism (perhaps by design)
but may be your optimism can change something.
May your optimism change something. I sure hope so AP.
May your “extremely difficult to change” succeed.
In The END: I neither lose or win in anything. I am just an outsider. You are right about that too.
God speed AP.
Pls be safe you, and your family and your cultural group
p/s Storm the B does not necessary need to be physical, if you are a spiritual being (Hint Hint ;) but be careful I am neither suggesting this nor that and whatever else they load into you)
You seem to have some interesting views and I respect that.
This may seem like useless personal information but I think it is important because this is how you identify people to support and work with. I survived more than one deadly encounter, I see my time as a bonus but -that applies to everyone and they just don’t realize it. Also, I was lucky to be imparted a few words by my grandpa. “Live your life like you are a legend and future generations will tell stories about you”. I have used that in tough times to remember it is bigger than me, my pain or death.
You mention Barry and you are correct in many ways to do so. The difference between him and Tulsi is he was embraced and propped up all the way through.
Tulsi, I think she was a bit better than middle of the road. But then they kept shoving her down. They crossed a line and pissed her off. I think she is sincerely pissed off and I love when people get pissed off, it lights a fire in them that is hard to ever put out. You call a soldier a traitor, it goes to the heart of their identity.
I think they lit a fire in her they are not going to be able to put out.
Maybe she was a person that played along, played the game, whatever. But what are her kids, grand kids, family, fellow brothers/sisters in arms going to say about her? What legacy will she leave? Smeared as traitor then faded away? I don’t think so.
Like you said with Putin, it takes a team to achieve something…
You seemed to be a firm believer and i will leave it at that :)
I am indeed an outsider and don’t even feel right to comment on TG really…
About TG and barry comparison I am not refering to the prop-up but the aftereffects… ppl who believe so much so (like QUTE maybe) when they found out he is not THE REAL THING, when they feel like ‘THEY’ can and have make a mockery of the highest office on your turf the POT.US, what else can’t they do to you, they felt like they have been played and they were made to feel even smaller
—> and they took thier lives, physical or mental or political-right-to-vote… they surrender their soveriengty as a person…
I am more concern of that – THE PPL
I shall end here and wish you well AP :)
p/s I agree TG is the best option you have atm (until something else comes out of the dark and she is proven otherwise)
p/s if DJT cannot do it, with his billions and deep established connections and family dynasty, mad and bombastic as he is, and whatever else he can push or pull like Reality TV everyday, imagine what “they” can do to a woman?! Just a thought
Pls be safe there
I increasingly distrust Gabbard. Causing further discord among the Dems might be yet another strategy towards a hidden goal. After all, cui bono? What is the actual benefit from any of her attacks on Clinton or the other candidates? She must have known her chances were slim going in, considering the corruption in plain sight, and this discord only benefits Trump in the end. Her relentless pandering of her own military service images are also rather far from humility, earning her some scorn from others who have served and who would never brag about it.
But it is important to remember that politics is theater, the performance of propaganda, and ideological rhetoric. It does not benefit the audience. It’s mostly a moving surface that keeps your attention, even as it fools you…
I increasingly distrust Gabbard. Causing further discord among the Dems might be yet another strategy towards a hidden goal. After all, cui bono?
This country desperately needs for someone of national stature to say that our meaningless, perpetual wars are wrong, and that only the MIC benefits. Russia and China benefit from peace is the other side of the coin; they have invested in peace whereas the conglomerate over here is vested in wars. These ware neither protect our freedoms nor our borders, and by bankrupting the nation they ruin our future.
Trump, for all his faults, can see this. Gabbard, through her experiences overseas, may have less of the big picture, but I believe she is more motivated than Trump to achieve some of Trump’s stated goals, and for the right reasons.
Who benefits? I and all of my fellow deplorable Republicans benefit, along with all the woke and other rank and file of the Democratic Party. If her stance is harmful to the other Democratic candidates, then that is their fault for being on the wrong side of history, and on the wrong side of morals, not to mention international law.
Some people in history are complete wildcards. I’m not saying Tulsi is or isn’t one of them. That can only be realized through the passage of time.
Putin was a mid-level at best KGB officer at best, installed by a departing Yeltsin. Putin’s 1st decree was a protection for Yeltsin from being charged for corruption. Russian elite thought they had a guy that would play ball… What did Putin do? Consolidated power then bit the hands that fed him, bit them hard. Putin is the wildest “wild card” I’ve witnessed in my lifetime. There is no disputing that Russia has benefited greatly from his leadership. A person everyone wrote off at the start, a relative no-name who rose to the occasion and changed the course of world events.
So, Tulsi being CFR does not automatically mean to me that she is lost cause, controlled opposition. You have to be in and around these circles to start to understand how the world works. 99.9% are content with being in the club and never work to make a positive difference, they are just happy to be personally enriched by it.
I take chances on people I think may be that .01% that could change the world. Most often I’m disappointed but, that .01% is out there and worth taking the chance on.
Strong words of a fearless woman. In any nation this would make headlines, but the MSM are dead silent.
Which brings me to an advice, might someone of her staff reading here: beef up your security, Tulsi. You are dealing with a poisonous snake, that once giggled ‘we came, we saw, he died’.
The current strategy of the queen warmonger and her sycophant main stream media, her sycophant followers and minions is classic ad hominem.
For those not current on their Latin, a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
No one cannot defend a endless war state, so instead you attack the messenger.
Clinton and her sycophant followers are in their dying last breath, they have no argument left only an ad hominem attack on the messengers. Thank Saker for posting this and “questioning those who would use power to their own benefit and at the cost and lives of others.” – JFK
I am ambivalent about Tulsi Gabbard. She was a member of the CFR and she surrendered to the anti-BDS mafia, yet her challenging of the war machine is a HUGE plus for me. If she turns out to be “controlled opposition” …
I have already shared this video with friends, and I keep it ready on my cell phone for when I myself am accused of being a “Russian asset”.
Shortly after this post appeared I went to YouTube to see what the View count was, it was a less than 800. A day later (today, now) it stands at over 64,000. That is pretty darn good, but, yet, if this is a viable presidential candidate the View count should be over a million, don’t you think. What gives?
YouTube is owned by Google and Google is tight with Hillary Clinton.
Emergency Services Life Support! Quick, hurry to the Vineyard thread on Tulsi! Half the commenters are suicidal!
And another 25% are semi-suicidal!! LOL.
Guys, it’s a wonderful, years and decades long process, —-not a 10 second “push a button, pull a voting machine lever, send in a $25 check” ….then sit on your hands and wait for Your Particular Saviour…to do All The Heavy Lifting witha wand..or sceptre…or whatever.
I already said (in the Clinton-Gabbard thread) I don’t yet trust Tulsi.
But two followup questions:
!) So what???
Answer: Wrap your heads around this one boys and girls: I could still send her $100! In fact I could send ANYONE that weakens Hellary that….and more!
2) Compared to what??
I’m a registered Democrat that voted for Trump in 2016. Compared to Hitlery???? No brainer!! And look at all the Fun Fireworks that has caused…..multiplied by a few million other Americans!
Now, though, Tulsi, Tulsi, Tulsi……….Compared to Anyone ELSE in the Democratic Party……..what choice do I have short term??
So, my contribution to someone I don’t fully trust in the short term is to weaken 100% evil..Hellary and the rest of the transgender coven of male, female, Butt-end…No….just NO!…trannies and old grannies (Diane, Nancy) .in the hopes that Tulsi…or someone else that hasn’t emerged yet! …. will get better, stronger….and open the terrain and possibilities in the mid to log term up…………………. a whole lot more!
I like the mix of spirit in the comments of Larchmonter, Vuki, Active Patriot, miguel jose, 13th floor…and even LT.
Mike from NJ is getting there, thinking..as is BF when he responds to someone with half a pulse remaining.
The problem is the political zombies.
And I don’t mean The Foreign Question Mark (?).
With so many zombies stumbling around, politically and spiritually bankrupt……with zero ideas to offer besides congratulating each other on how clever they were to stop breathing and thinking…or even lifting a finger…………who can blame ? for Declaring America Dead???
What a ridiculous spectacle.A Mass Die-In Is!!
And it is sad to see Death of Ideas, Death of Will even wear down valorous Vuki ….in one short thread!
You’re better than that, Vuki!
Don’t be influenced by Whatever His Name Is Hemorrhoid!
Misery loves company, but the zombie ranks are already plenty full enough!
Not a chance I will respect that nonsense….let alone join in with it, when I no for a fact that things are opening up planet wide 100 times more than in any decade in which I have paid attention!
That would be 1980s, 1990’s, 2000s, 2010s.
The 2020s should be glorious!
Unless you’re already a Zombie…that is!
You will absolutely HATE….not being alive…not being able to participate in the fun!
A couple of links on the Tulsi topic that are related:
The Grey Zone with Aaron Mate (accent on the e) and Max Blumenthal have the best segment on this, that i have seen this far:
Max Blumenthal on why Hillary Clinton smeared Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein
Conclusion I get out of this: The Russiagate Narrative is a Complete Loser…as is Hillary…as is the Deep State…….unless people just weaken by the millions…as many here have…and give up on a Winning Hand ………….called The Truth. SO:
Time To Call Their Bluff!
Not fold or stagger around like a bunch of cynical zombies.
Their Cards Are Pure Bullshit…..and more and more of the world, including even Dumb Americans….know it!
So, am I above utilizing Tulsi to call Hellary’s Bluff…even though I have reservations about Tulsi?? Absolutely not! I can do that, all day, any day!
And then, besides all kinds of Americans and others in the west turning off their TVs in disgust and seeking their news online…….What Else Could break Things Loose In A Very, Very Big Way….and get people thinking …and fighting for their longer term survival and overall peace, prosperity and Chances for Living Meaningful Lives???
“Nothing!”, croak the zombies.
But wait! Ignore the Zombie Chorus!
Maybe the demise of the Whole Foundation of Bribery and Corruption The Enemy’s Teetering Structure of Rotten Empire rests upon, me thinks…since all of this BS is just Panic-mode Attempting to Hide From Reality …..A Little Longer. And I don’t just mean the human trafficking, pedophile networks under fire……and so forth.
No, there’s something even more bankrupt: The Banks! The City …and Wall Street…..and like a geyser that just blew off a ” little steam” a few times over the decades since 1971…….That Bad Boy Is About to Really Blow Up Decades of Corruption:
“…………….The new global financial report of the International Monetary Fund is full of very serious warnings of debt crisis and financial crash. The Federal Reserve has been pumping $50-$100 billion of liquidity loans into the Wall Street banks and funds EVERY DAY (my emphasis) since it discovered a liquidity crisis in the interbank loan market on Sept. 16. The central banks of the United States, Europe and Japan are coordinating their expanded bank-subsidy programs to try to print enough liquidity to keep stock and bond values from plunging.
But there is no mention of any of these erupting financial emergencies in the Congress and parliaments, nor reference to them in popular media. No hearings are held. Competent economists and bankers urge that these banks must be broken up on Glass-Steagall principles, and large-scale programs of public investment in high-technology economic infrastructure must be launched, and quickly. But these imperatives are not even discussed.
Why? All the American officials who have bought into this British intelligence coup, want Trump gone before “the economy” is discussed. They fear that in a crisis, in a financial crash, he may take charge of it by acting together with the other national leaders in space exploration, nuclear technology, infrastructure building — meaning China, Russia, India and others. Those are our potential partners in international development, but the war party insists they are our adversaries, our enemies.
That’s the Bigger Game, Tulsi is just one card in….of The Last Hand.Of This Decade…..if you will….. and Empire Will Be the Loser………..unless y’all weaken..FOLD ….and stumble away from the table………….while the Empire Minions Are Running Headlong into More Russia, Russia, Russia Absolute Dementia………..in the other direction.
I don’t know about you. …but …Enough’s Enough!!! I Call Their Bullshit Bluff...in terms of thinking and intention…and looking for means to put that intention into effect.
Tulsi is just one of many cards to play toward that end. But not a bad one, at all, IMHO.
Good article on the smear campaign from the “elites.” Not all that remarkable that they all are reading from the same script. I respect the author of the article as he tends to not regurgitate the BS but attacks it.
From the article:
Even if you posit the most elaborate theories of Russian interference (which I don’t, but of course I’m denialist scum), what happened in 2016 was still almost entirely a domestic story, with Trump benefiting from long-developing public rejection of the political establishment.
Rather than confront the devastating absurdity of defeat before an ad-libbing game show host who was seemingly trying to lose – a black comedy that is 100% in America’s rich stupidity tradition – Democrats have gone all-in on this theory of foreign infiltration. House speaker Nancy Pelosi even said as much in a White House meeting, pointing at Trump and proclaiming: “All roads lead to Putin.”
Let Pax American die a quiet death, lest they try and annihilate the world along with their demise. Something to consider, did any of the other candidates serve in the military?
She needs money to get her message out, to travel the country, to fight the good fight.
Back her now if you want messages like this to resonate and build into a political force.
Trump did it without spending his own money. Small donors.
She’s against wars and corruption. That’s a good start.
She’s fearless. That’s very important. Most people are silent with fear.
Send her some money to keep her going in the endless battle against greed, corruption and war.
https://tulsi.to/TakeBackTheParty
Yes, push it, it’s the non-ego half of the zodiac
we are sailing now till spring
Obama had pushed the focus
the Donald had appeared
with the invisible wings of spirit
consisting on true interests of
anyone/part of mankind
You wrote:
She’s fearless. That’s very important. Most people are silent with fear.”
Both statement are true.
She is fearless. And most people are silent with fear, including myself. I post here but I am very reluctant to bring up my opinions in social circles. The mainstream propaganda is so thorough and relentless that I won’t convince anyone about anything – except that they will end up believing that I am crazy.
I only talk politics in two situations.
One, I talk to those people whom I believe might be receptive to change.
Two, I talk to people who know my background and who know that I have had access to information that they don’t.
In both cases, rather than being ridiculed as a “conspiracy theorist,” I often find myself met with looks of astonishment.
Early in her campaign I tried to send money but the funds process picked up I was not a US citizen.
I got a personal email (responding directly to comments I added in the space provided on the fundraising form) politely refusing foreign donations and thanking me for my moral support.
No $25 million from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (as in Hilary’s campaign) or $AUD30 million (from Australian government to the Clinton Foundation) funds for Tulsi.
Thanks, just contributed, will continue to do so. And to think I swore I would never vote again.
I think she at last deserves a reward for calling out Hillary.
I have donated.
I hope that Tulsi challenges Hillary to a debated — sponsored by the League of Women Voters, of course.
Let’s separate the champions from the bitches right now.
Katherine
It’s a kind of apocalypse Tulsi refers to, currently
to me it’s the moral question on the
Inhabitants of US, the full blow of them, and not the ‘players’ only, I follow the
message, America has a historic President dodging the bullets, too tricky for their traps
made of pure American ( poker-nation) stuff, but with wings
he’s rocking hell currently for stabilities’ sake
compare the three
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2019/10/1092019-transits-on-three-players.html
two times wisdom =Jupiter, third time action= Sun
Big Time like u-slang likes it.
I go along, feeding my encircled heart with
sun-stuff
my old german teacher, becoming 99, wrote:
bleak feather
fact and sign
of ableness
to glide
through this world and
to keep oneself warm
” under your wing poor thing”
I just love her.
I just sent in a contribution even though I don’t think she’ll succeed.
She is very articulate and convincing. However, she is still one person, and will remain one person even if she gets elected as President. What can one person do against the elite ? Trump made many promises during the last election and ended up surrounded by the neocons. Makes you wonder if he was sincere in the first place, and if he was, he obviously proved he could not go against the Deep State. Finally, even though Tulsi Gabbard is very attractive both as a woman and as a political candidate, I am still unhappy that her name was on the Roster of the Council on Foreign Relations, and we all know who created that.
Her name being on the CFR list, plus her decision to swallow the zionist kool-aid and voting in favor of criminalizing the BDS movement made me stop to contribute financially to her campaign and remove my name from her mailing list.
Who are you going to support if not her? There is no other choice. “Two steps back one step forward.”
You could support nobody. TG is a phoney, member of CFR. Remember Obama? What about her makes her less evil than Trump?
Johny Conspiranoid
Yes, it would be very interesting if nobody, or very few people, came out to vote. Ho would the elite explain that ?
If you don’t vote you deserve the Clintons.What exact has TG said that is not true? Since WWII US has
been in constant wars, US has supported the most brutal dictatorial regimes on the planet. From Pinochet in Chile to PolPot in Cambodia to Sigmund Rhee in Korea to Samosa in Nicoragua and hundreds of others who were as bad as Charle Manson. The Clintons take money from Kosovo drug lords who sell human organThe Clintons need to be exposed and jailed. TG is a socialist and why not. The most prosperous , the best educated, the most liveable societies are socialist countries of Northern Europe and TG is smart enough to see this. What does US rank first in; crime ,guns, poverty, illiteracy, gun death, crumbling infrastructure, wars, child poverty, phornography, drugs. TG wants to eliminate this while people like the Clintons make money from it . Shameful bastards.
TG will talk a good game and then do the same as all the others. If it were different she could not be selected as a Democratic candidate. The only way out of this the long game of building a third party movement, i.e. Greens.
Its sad to see this on The Saker.
https://blackagendareport.com/how-democratic-party-strangled-black-politics-1
Vuki
I fear she is just a replacement for Hillary Clinton. Are we to expect that a major in the US military and a member (or former member of the Council on Foreign Relations – depending on sources) will go against the US Military Industrial Complex and the banks ? I think not, even if she wanted to. The institutions she would be facing would prove to be too powerful. Look what happened to JFK.
On one thing you are correct voting in US changes nothing if it did they would , as Emma Goldman said “outlaw it”.
Interesting point.
That would surely “kick the chessboard”, and then, WHAT..?
But to get it, I think you need A LOT of people with good info, and very critic thinking.
I suffer the same here in Argentina, just days before another fraudulent election.
Regards..!
(BTW, God bless Tulsi, anyway…)
There should be a constitutional amendment allowing people to vote for “None of the Above.”
If “None of the Above” got 40 per cent of the votes, the election would have to be done over and the candidates in the first election could not run again.
I use 40 per cent for the following reason. If 40 per cent of the electorate hates all the candidates, then something is seriously wrong and there should be “do over.”
Getting the junior membership in CFR was a requirement of being on the foreign relations committee.
Yes, finally we may start to have a discussion of actual core issues. I intend to stand on a street corner on Nov 11 holding a sign that says on one side, “Bring the troops home Now” And the other side saying “ No endless war”.
Will report back mid November on the experience.
Signing off from the Transhumanian Front of the War against Humanity
Everyone who runs is “against” war and corruption. Everyone who runs is going to “change” things. Eisenhower was president when I was young. Since then the only person that didn’t want to play ball was Kennedy and you see what that got him. I am beginning to agree with the Wobblies that capitalism can’t be reformed. From my view point there’s been a bullet with the name of a change maker on it since I’ve been alive. Think Malcolm, Martin, RFK, JFK…………Seth Rich. The rot is so endemic that changing a few corrupt players in office will just result in replacing those who wait in the wings. I wish I could churn up ANY enthusiasm for this miasma of bull shit but I have lived too long to delude myself anymore.
I am also beginning to think that capitalism cannot be reformed. Roosevelt reformed it somewhat in the 30’s and it is all being undone. Europe – after world war II – provided social welfare programs for their citizens and that is, also, being undone. It seems like it is capitalism’s nature to corrupt any system that seeks to limit its abuses.
Mike – You are right – Capitalism cannot be reformed. Only killed. It is in fact a false religion, taught to us by our British betters. Regards Roosevelt; those close to him assert that in the late 1930’s he concluded that the only way to save his economic program and his Presidency was to create World War Two. This was the way he chose to initiate the employment creating process of re-armament. Before Hitler Roosevelt was planning massive rearmament. For this he had to create war. A dirty secret well kept from all. So even the “saintly” FDR proves the absolute evil of capitalism. Not to be definitionally conflated with honest and fairly balanced free enterprise, as I believe Larch does. Regarding Tulsi Gabbard; the thing I like about her is that, according to my research, universal salvation is in the hands of the feminine principle. Tulsi is doing a good job of personifying that in my opinion.
Readers my refer to this citation I copied from Ron Unz at http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-understanding-world-war-ii/
Page 29:
How can any Democrat justify in their minds picking anyone but her as their candidate????!
This is watershed moment for Democrats. Do they truly believe in their positions or are they puppets following corrupt puppet masters?
I have many FB friends that are blindly repeating ignorant positions that are opposite of what they say they stand for. I do not let these people stay ignorant tools of corrupt elite. I try to educate them on these positions and why that position is against what they say they stand for. I notice a little bit of progress in that they go silent after a while. Silence is consent that their position was ignorant and wrong. But they are not willing to openly admit it yet.
You have to have patience and walk someone into a position where it is ok to admit they were wrong and you are not judging them for that but, instead, sincerely trying to help them because both of you want what is right even if it is the tougher path to follow.
The Democratic Party IS the corrupt elite. There will be NO ‘democracy’ of any real type, NO social justice, NO equality and comity in societies, and NO human race unless the cancer ethos of the global parasite species, capitalism, is ended, once and for all. It is getting very late in the day, too.
I hate to break the fairy tale bubble, but…
Representative democracy is an oxymoron. How can it be a democracy, if someone else (the elected) is choosing for me?! You just buy the elected, and…. Good morning oligarchy.
And direct democracy (something we won’t see in our life time) is a lesser way to run a country.
Just ask Plato.
These clips are a waste of time, in my most honest opinion. You are just giving people false hope. (Which is the main goal of representative democracy – false hope)
And you provide no alternative solution. SO people are just supposed to give up?
No, people try, they work at it. People face a losing battle and they forge forward despite the odds against them.
That is the human spirit, you can’t stop it. They game theory and AI things til they are blue in the face but the human spirit they cannot defeat. Syria shows that. Brexit to some extent. Sometimes wildcards come out of nowhere and change history. Putin being biggest example in modern times.
Human emotion is treated as a childish thing, but it has the power to change the world.
Playing along with the bullshit is giving up hope. Stockholm sundrome.
Participating is not playing along.
I was one of thousands who participated in a process where they tried to force a superhighway down our throats. Imminent domain, artificially low property valuations for buyouts, corrupt deal for 99 year lease to foreign company. We blocked it within the system and process they set up. We made national news on a local issue and because of that, the same attempt was blocked in another state as well.
There were no riots over it, we didn’t trash local businesses or run around like thugs. We learned the process and worked it hard, we exposed the corruption of the process while we participated in it. It’s the only way you really learn how it works and how to counter it.
Tip:
The cornerstone of Bureaucracy is the requirement for a signature on EVERYTHING. It is the signer who you focus on. Learn EVERYTHING about them and apply pressure points. That is how it is done. Once that obscure signer is brought out into the light and made a household name, they crumble like a stale oatmeal cookie. I met an official who was intimidating as heck to start, I was personally intimidated. 2 years later, he was a shell of the man he was. Fidgety, digging at an empty styrofoam coffee cup as we talked, dark circles under his eyes… I almost felt bad for him until I remembered all the hell he had put me through having to defend my home.
Sorry a bit off topic, or maybe not :-) :
https://www.rt.com/usa/471352-hillary-clinton-nasa-little-girl/
I can only say that the entire American political class combined with the mainstream media has really become an entertainment show. Its a form of amusement and ridicule.
She looks good & sounds good, but isn’t everyone who makes it this far part of the (corrupt) Elite?????
Telling us what we want to hear only to disappoint once elected?
Or, even worse, the naive dumb asses believe they will change something……….lol.
Beautifully said. I can’t agree more. Furthermore, the truth is that when these dumb assess say they’ll fix the education and healthcare systems or stop nation building, wars, corruption, etc., the exact opposite happens. I hope people will start recognizing this. Otherwise why vote for these liars?
Democracy is sold as “Freedom” when it is Mob Rule.
And the only “choice” is between THEIR two choices.
Both being run by the same people/agenda behind the scenes.
The DNC is a ‘legal entity’. Legal entities do not have any Life, or inherent power, in and of themselves. Therefore, be mindful and do not stray from the path of Truth.
In other news, Tulsi Gabbard vows to Take Back the Corrupt Democratic Party from Corrupt Elite!
This is truly Change that You Can Really, Really Believe In–honest to God!
My wife and I support Gabbard. I don’t like her support for Israel (against BDS but not in favor of making it illegal) and her membership on the CFR but I’ve watched her since she resigned her vice chair of the DNC and supported and campaigned for Sanders. Since then she has been smeared, threatened, shunned and attacked: that’s been going on since late February, 2016! That’s a long time! Hillary’s lackys threatened to “primary” her and did. Clinton did not want Gabbard to introduce Sanders at the DNC convention in July, 2016. She has been up against a very powerful mafia– the Clinton controlled DNC– and she has not flinched. Listen to what she says and watch what she does, totally consistent. Eventually, I believe her antipathy toward the Saudi mafia and now openly challenging by name Trump and Clinton will bring Israel’s lobby out to fight her. She is a courageous, principled human being and worthy of our support.
Always seems to be the anonymous ones….
No solution to anything, only effort is to weaken the message.
5th column
ActBlue trolls, 77th whatever, 8200, they’re a lot of them getting paid to sh*t all over Gabbard.
Not argue with her, not debate many points she should be debated on. Just to spray sh(t mist over any enthusiasm.
Enthusiasm must be killed, they say. And as usual, the minute I post a damned thing, I expect them to come out like the cockroaches they are.
In fact, it’s an insult to cockroaches to compare them to the trolls. But let it be noted: On Zero Hedge, more of the ActBlue jerks came out to slam Gabbard within the last 24 hours than had ever been seen on a thread about, say, Biden. This is a fact. I suspect they are here, wearing fashionable bullsh*t talk but walking no walk at all, except to insult her and insult everyone who sees a ray of light here. Rays of light? No, we can’t have that.
I always listen to Vot when he’s got critiques on anything, or Bro or anyone else with a record here. Don’t always agree with them, but they are consistent, they have a style, they stand up for what they believe in. The trolls appear out of nowhere. I.e. “Tulsi is a groomed CIA agent…” etc.
I’m not saying I know who and what she is, but I honestly think that’s bullsh*t.
The anti-Tulsi, ActBlue troll brigade are really something to watch.
The paid trolls are, I suspect, already here. It will be very instructive to watch their antics.
p/s Active Patriot, you inspired my response. Thank you. You are right.
Here is some humor for you:
Vovan et Lexus’ latest, the governor of Alaska. It’s a laugh riot. Hope you enjoy.
Skol, IEUSA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=489&v=JuzmOn7F488
dear ActivePatriot, you already know the solution!
ActivePatriot on October 20, 2019 · at 3:01 pm EST/EDT
“You should know it is an extremely difficult thing to change American policy when much of the lifestyle Americans enjoy are based on the exploitation of the rest of the world.”
but you won’t change. You won’t do the right thing.
WHY?
coz instinctively you know to change is to put USSA to death.
To do the right thing is to put USSA to death.
To change and to do the right thing is to put yourself to death.
That’s why you won’t change. You won’t do the right thing
But as a military person (I presume) you know there is death in shame and death in honour.
Most USSA don’t know and don’t care.
Which I feel, really feel for you all, the western ‘THE PPL”.
So is it up to the foreign forces, the new world, the Eurasia to do the right thing TO YOU?
To AP and all who’s interest are implicated —>
Is TG gonna be like Barry? Barry sold you all hopium and you like that too. Even after you found out barry may not have the right birthcert and all kinds of movie clip has been produce to ‘solidify’ the ‘evidence’, and the only “witness” strangely drown in a plane crash while everybody else was intact, without a scratch.
Solution? Its above your paygrade.
But here is it FREE for you —> The problem is not the candidate. Why? because that’s how they structure the regime and call it ‘democracy’ and by giving you the illusion of vote, that is illusion of personal power and personal choice, which you have neither.
The problem is the system, the law, and the money.
So the SOLUTION IS —> Storm the Bastille !
There is no other way. You don’t choose this candidate or that candidate. You don’t reject this candidate or that candidate.
You reject the system. You reject their FAKE “republic”.
As Saker, mentioned (if I understand correctly) and many other deep thinkers here,
you already lost the republic.
Or as I said here, you are on occupied land, and you are the aggressor and invader on this land, you need to mediated that and fix that – even if its to return the land to the natives.
But you won’t do that.
To do the right thing is to put USSA to death.
To change and to do the right thing is to put yourself to death.
That’s why I said, its above your paygrade. And its tough!
Either you continue the exploitation and the rest of the world suffers and being murdered,
Or…
Does TG has the magic solution WHILE IN THEIR SYSTEM?
If Orange man cannot do it, I doubt TG can even…
Again, its really really really sad to come to this…
Pls do be safe, you, and you family and your cultural group
I said it is extremely difficult to change, seems you took it as hopeless and a lost cause to try.
Let me point out a few interesting things:
The majority of republicans SUPPORT withdrawing troops from Syria.
The majority of democrats OPPOSE withdrawing troops from Syria.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-are-largely-backing-trumps-withdrawal-from-syria/
Let this sink in, this is a MASSIVE shift in mindset. One of those difficult things that need to happen to change course in America and it is happening. The Pro war Right is war weary after nearly 2 decades of lousy results. The Democrats are exposing their ignorance by supporting war purely to be contrarian to Trump.
The warrior class in America does not think the last 2 decades of war was worth it:
https://taskandpurpose.com/afghanistan-iraq-war-veterans-poll
Fighters know that constant fighting makes you weaker. You need breaks in between to train and develop new tactics. They also know that these “low level” wars have taken our focus off being ready for a big one, the one that REALLY is a threat. They know our enemies have had the last 2 decades to watch our performance on the battlefield and learn how to counter. They also get frustrated when we hold back things that we don’t want our enemies to see in battle, so they feel we are fighting with one arm tied behind our back. Just as Russia does not field advanced version of S300, S400, S500 in low level conflict in Syria, US does not field most advanced weapons systems either.
The common problem I see here is highlighted by your views.
You put yourself outside the system, fight by rejecting it, waiting for revolution that will never come. There will be no violent revolution in the U.S. despite so many peoples hopes for it.
Have the color revolutions done by CIA taught you nothing? Revolutions from the start are seeded with traitors to the cause. Name a violent revolution in modern times that actually made peoples lives better afterward.
You think 1 person can’t come along and make a difference? Putin is proof otherwise.
“Storm the Bastille ” is no solution.
What do people storm in this highly complex empire? Congress? The Federal Reserve? The hundreds of military bases? The IRS? The local police department? Your solution is a vague call to arms with no set objective. A goal with no plan, a non-starter.
While you wait for your non-starter solution, you are a non-participant in viable solutions. You withhold support for good (maybe not perfect) people working to make a change who need that support. You wait for the perfect moment or perfect person to come along and it just doesn’t work like that. You go into battle with the soldiers you have, not the soldiers you dream of.
Yours and others distaste for Trump I understand, I’m not a huge fan of him either. But do you know what this world would be like if Hillary had won like she was supposed to? We would be neck deep in Syria right now, danger close to full scale war in ME. As it stands, the only thing our House of representatives agrees on is condemning Trump for not going to war with Turkey.
You think it is above my pay grade to try?
No, everyone who has a stake in this does their part. Taking losses in life is not failure. Failure is quitting, or worse, not trying.
I don’t know how much you follow American conversations but there is a tide turning. In a country of 350 million that takes a while though. Pandora’s box has been opened here though and despite the elite’s efforts to close it, it’s staying open.
Last,
America does not need to be a part of the empire to be successful in this world. I worked around the world and many like working with us because of how we do things. We have good quality controls, a flexible management style and strong work ethic. I could list the strengths and weaknesses of the different cultures around the world but that is a subject into itself. I know first hand what we are good at and we do have a competitive place in this world. We will be just fine when the empire ends.
Dear AP, first of all, Peace to you and I hope to see more of your kind in USSA :)
but having said that, yes,
I took it as hopeless and a lost cause to try.
Why? Because the regime is setup for THEPPL to fail and be murdered by food, air, vax, health care, money system… the lot. And that is just a start…
Thus I think the only option left now, is the ppl are still willing to fight, is to storm. and YES you are right, I am vague, and yes, deliberately.
But a few points if I may,
1) I have resisted to post anything re. your country but saw that TG could be a barry 2.0 and remember how dissolution ppl were after, so I took the risk. (Remark regarding moderators removed: The Mod.)
2) I actually like DJT I see much more than most here on his madness and methods
3) Putin is NOT one man. Putin has a team of Magicians behind and in front of him. One particular was invited (or rather strong usher) out of the deep woods for this time of change. Thats is the defining cause for his ‘success’ thus far. The war is in the unseen realms.
4) Its your turf, your destiny. May your god be kinder to you.
5) The world is not waiting for change or playing the game no more – I think you agree with me on this one maybe? So whatever comes after, comes.
Again, I may sound overly extreme pessimism (perhaps by design)
but may be your optimism can change something.
May your optimism change something. I sure hope so AP.
May your “extremely difficult to change” succeed.
In The END: I neither lose or win in anything. I am just an outsider. You are right about that too.
God speed AP.
Pls be safe you, and your family and your cultural group
p/s Storm the B does not necessary need to be physical, if you are a spiritual being (Hint Hint ;) but be careful I am neither suggesting this nor that and whatever else they load into you)
You seem to have some interesting views and I respect that.
This may seem like useless personal information but I think it is important because this is how you identify people to support and work with. I survived more than one deadly encounter, I see my time as a bonus but -that applies to everyone and they just don’t realize it. Also, I was lucky to be imparted a few words by my grandpa. “Live your life like you are a legend and future generations will tell stories about you”. I have used that in tough times to remember it is bigger than me, my pain or death.
You mention Barry and you are correct in many ways to do so. The difference between him and Tulsi is he was embraced and propped up all the way through.
Tulsi, I think she was a bit better than middle of the road. But then they kept shoving her down. They crossed a line and pissed her off. I think she is sincerely pissed off and I love when people get pissed off, it lights a fire in them that is hard to ever put out. You call a soldier a traitor, it goes to the heart of their identity.
I think they lit a fire in her they are not going to be able to put out.
Maybe she was a person that played along, played the game, whatever. But what are her kids, grand kids, family, fellow brothers/sisters in arms going to say about her? What legacy will she leave? Smeared as traitor then faded away? I don’t think so.
Like you said with Putin, it takes a team to achieve something…
You seemed to be a firm believer and i will leave it at that :)
I am indeed an outsider and don’t even feel right to comment on TG really…
About TG and barry comparison I am not refering to the prop-up but the aftereffects… ppl who believe so much so (like QUTE maybe) when they found out he is not THE REAL THING, when they feel like ‘THEY’ can and have make a mockery of the highest office on your turf the POT.US, what else can’t they do to you, they felt like they have been played and they were made to feel even smaller
—> and they took thier lives, physical or mental or political-right-to-vote… they surrender their soveriengty as a person…
I am more concern of that – THE PPL
I shall end here and wish you well AP :)
p/s I agree TG is the best option you have atm (until something else comes out of the dark and she is proven otherwise)
p/s if DJT cannot do it, with his billions and deep established connections and family dynasty, mad and bombastic as he is, and whatever else he can push or pull like Reality TV everyday, imagine what “they” can do to a woman?! Just a thought
Pls be safe there
I increasingly distrust Gabbard. Causing further discord among the Dems might be yet another strategy towards a hidden goal. After all, cui bono? What is the actual benefit from any of her attacks on Clinton or the other candidates? She must have known her chances were slim going in, considering the corruption in plain sight, and this discord only benefits Trump in the end. Her relentless pandering of her own military service images are also rather far from humility, earning her some scorn from others who have served and who would never brag about it.
But it is important to remember that politics is theater, the performance of propaganda, and ideological rhetoric. It does not benefit the audience. It’s mostly a moving surface that keeps your attention, even as it fools you…
I increasingly distrust Gabbard. Causing further discord among the Dems might be yet another strategy towards a hidden goal. After all, cui bono?
This country desperately needs for someone of national stature to say that our meaningless, perpetual wars are wrong, and that only the MIC benefits. Russia and China benefit from peace is the other side of the coin; they have invested in peace whereas the conglomerate over here is vested in wars. These ware neither protect our freedoms nor our borders, and by bankrupting the nation they ruin our future.
Trump, for all his faults, can see this. Gabbard, through her experiences overseas, may have less of the big picture, but I believe she is more motivated than Trump to achieve some of Trump’s stated goals, and for the right reasons.
Who benefits? I and all of my fellow deplorable Republicans benefit, along with all the woke and other rank and file of the Democratic Party. If her stance is harmful to the other Democratic candidates, then that is their fault for being on the wrong side of history, and on the wrong side of morals, not to mention international law.
Some people in history are complete wildcards. I’m not saying Tulsi is or isn’t one of them. That can only be realized through the passage of time.
Putin was a mid-level at best KGB officer at best, installed by a departing Yeltsin. Putin’s 1st decree was a protection for Yeltsin from being charged for corruption. Russian elite thought they had a guy that would play ball… What did Putin do? Consolidated power then bit the hands that fed him, bit them hard. Putin is the wildest “wild card” I’ve witnessed in my lifetime. There is no disputing that Russia has benefited greatly from his leadership. A person everyone wrote off at the start, a relative no-name who rose to the occasion and changed the course of world events.
So, Tulsi being CFR does not automatically mean to me that she is lost cause, controlled opposition. You have to be in and around these circles to start to understand how the world works. 99.9% are content with being in the club and never work to make a positive difference, they are just happy to be personally enriched by it.
I take chances on people I think may be that .01% that could change the world. Most often I’m disappointed but, that .01% is out there and worth taking the chance on.
Strong words of a fearless woman. In any nation this would make headlines, but the MSM are dead silent.
Which brings me to an advice, might someone of her staff reading here: beef up your security, Tulsi. You are dealing with a poisonous snake, that once giggled ‘we came, we saw, he died’.
Cheers, Rob
The current strategy of the queen warmonger and her sycophant main stream media, her sycophant followers and minions is classic ad hominem.
For those not current on their Latin, a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
No one cannot defend a endless war state, so instead you attack the messenger.
Clinton and her sycophant followers are in their dying last breath, they have no argument left only an ad hominem attack on the messengers. Thank Saker for posting this and “questioning those who would use power to their own benefit and at the cost and lives of others.” – JFK
I am ambivalent about Tulsi Gabbard. She was a member of the CFR and she surrendered to the anti-BDS mafia, yet her challenging of the war machine is a HUGE plus for me. If she turns out to be “controlled opposition” …
I have already shared this video with friends, and I keep it ready on my cell phone for when I myself am accused of being a “Russian asset”.
Shortly after this post appeared I went to YouTube to see what the View count was, it was a less than 800. A day later (today, now) it stands at over 64,000. That is pretty darn good, but, yet, if this is a viable presidential candidate the View count should be over a million, don’t you think. What gives?
YouTube is owned by Google and Google is tight with Hillary Clinton.
Red Alert! Red October Alert!
Emergency Services Life Support! Quick, hurry to the Vineyard thread on Tulsi! Half the commenters are suicidal!
And another 25% are semi-suicidal!! LOL.
Guys, it’s a wonderful, years and decades long process, —-not a 10 second “push a button, pull a voting machine lever, send in a $25 check” ….then sit on your hands and wait for Your Particular Saviour…to do All The Heavy Lifting witha wand..or sceptre…or whatever.
I already said (in the Clinton-Gabbard thread) I don’t yet trust Tulsi.
But two followup questions:
!) So what???
Answer: Wrap your heads around this one boys and girls: I could still send her $100! In fact I could send ANYONE that weakens Hellary that….and more!
2) Compared to what??
I’m a registered Democrat that voted for Trump in 2016. Compared to Hitlery???? No brainer!! And look at all the Fun Fireworks that has caused…..multiplied by a few million other Americans!
Now, though, Tulsi, Tulsi, Tulsi……….Compared to Anyone ELSE in the Democratic Party……..what choice do I have short term??
So, my contribution to someone I don’t fully trust in the short term is to weaken 100% evil..Hellary and the rest of the transgender coven of male, female, Butt-end…No….just NO!…trannies and old grannies (Diane, Nancy) .in the hopes that Tulsi…or someone else that hasn’t emerged yet! …. will get better, stronger….and open the terrain and possibilities in the mid to log term up…………………. a whole lot more!
I like the mix of spirit in the comments of Larchmonter, Vuki, Active Patriot, miguel jose, 13th floor…and even LT.
Mike from NJ is getting there, thinking..as is BF when he responds to someone with half a pulse remaining.
The problem is the political zombies.
And I don’t mean The Foreign Question Mark (?).
With so many zombies stumbling around, politically and spiritually bankrupt……with zero ideas to offer besides congratulating each other on how clever they were to stop breathing and thinking…or even lifting a finger…………who can blame ? for Declaring America Dead???
What a ridiculous spectacle.A Mass Die-In Is!!
And it is sad to see Death of Ideas, Death of Will even wear down valorous Vuki ….in one short thread!
You’re better than that, Vuki!
Don’t be influenced by Whatever His Name Is Hemorrhoid!
Misery loves company, but the zombie ranks are already plenty full enough!
Not a chance I will respect that nonsense….let alone join in with it, when I no for a fact that things are opening up planet wide 100 times more than in any decade in which I have paid attention!
That would be 1980s, 1990’s, 2000s, 2010s.
The 2020s should be glorious!
Unless you’re already a Zombie…that is!
You will absolutely HATE….not being alive…not being able to participate in the fun!
A couple of links on the Tulsi topic that are related:
The Grey Zone with Aaron Mate (accent on the e) and Max Blumenthal have the best segment on this, that i have seen this far:
https://youtu.be/IRp7iEVZD6c
Max Blumenthal on why Hillary Clinton smeared Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein
Conclusion I get out of this: The Russiagate Narrative is a Complete Loser…as is Hillary…as is the Deep State…….unless people just weaken by the millions…as many here have…and give up on a Winning Hand ………….called The Truth. SO:
Time To Call Their Bluff!
Not fold or stagger around like a bunch of cynical zombies.
Their Cards Are Pure Bullshit…..and more and more of the world, including even Dumb Americans….know it!
So, am I above utilizing Tulsi to call Hellary’s Bluff…even though I have reservations about Tulsi?? Absolutely not! I can do that, all day, any day!
And then, besides all kinds of Americans and others in the west turning off their TVs in disgust and seeking their news online…….What Else Could break Things Loose In A Very, Very Big Way….and get people thinking …and fighting for their longer term survival and overall peace, prosperity and Chances for Living Meaningful Lives???
“Nothing!”, croak the zombies.
But wait! Ignore the Zombie Chorus!
Maybe the demise of the Whole Foundation of Bribery and Corruption The Enemy’s Teetering Structure of Rotten Empire rests upon, me thinks…since all of this BS is just Panic-mode Attempting to Hide From Reality …..A Little Longer. And I don’t just mean the human trafficking, pedophile networks under fire……and so forth.
No, there’s something even more bankrupt: The Banks! The City …and Wall Street…..and like a geyser that just blew off a ” little steam” a few times over the decades since 1971…….That Bad Boy Is About to Really Blow Up Decades of Corruption:
“…………….The new global financial report of the International Monetary Fund is full of very serious warnings of debt crisis and financial crash. The Federal Reserve has been pumping $50-$100 billion of liquidity loans into the Wall Street banks and funds EVERY DAY (my emphasis) since it discovered a liquidity crisis in the interbank loan market on Sept. 16. The central banks of the United States, Europe and Japan are coordinating their expanded bank-subsidy programs to try to print enough liquidity to keep stock and bond values from plunging.
But there is no mention of any of these erupting financial emergencies in the Congress and parliaments, nor reference to them in popular media. No hearings are held. Competent economists and bankers urge that these banks must be broken up on Glass-Steagall principles, and large-scale programs of public investment in high-technology economic infrastructure must be launched, and quickly. But these imperatives are not even discussed.
Why? All the American officials who have bought into this British intelligence coup, want Trump gone before “the economy” is discussed. They fear that in a crisis, in a financial crash, he may take charge of it by acting together with the other national leaders in space exploration, nuclear technology, infrastructure building — meaning China, Russia, India and others. Those are our potential partners in international development, but the war party insists they are our adversaries, our enemies.
from: https://larouchepac.com/20191021/congress-running-impeachment-and-war-running-away-wall-street-s-big-problem
That’s the Bigger Game, Tulsi is just one card in….of The Last Hand.Of This Decade…..if you will….. and Empire Will Be the Loser………..unless y’all weaken..FOLD ….and stumble away from the table………….while the Empire Minions Are Running Headlong into More Russia, Russia, Russia Absolute Dementia………..in the other direction.
I don’t know about you. …but …Enough’s Enough!!! I Call Their Bullshit Bluff...in terms of thinking and intention…and looking for means to put that intention into effect.
Tulsi is just one of many cards to play toward that end. But not a bad one, at all, IMHO.
“The Grey Zone with Aaron Mate (accent on the e) and Max Blumenthal have the best segment on this, that i have seen this far:
https://youtu.be/IRp7iEVZD6c ”
Excellent.
Thanks for the link.
Katherine
Good article on the smear campaign from the “elites.” Not all that remarkable that they all are reading from the same script. I respect the author of the article as he tends to not regurgitate the BS but attacks it.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/clinton-gabbard-russian-asset-jill-stein-901593/
From the article:
Even if you posit the most elaborate theories of Russian interference (which I don’t, but of course I’m denialist scum), what happened in 2016 was still almost entirely a domestic story, with Trump benefiting from long-developing public rejection of the political establishment.
Rather than confront the devastating absurdity of defeat before an ad-libbing game show host who was seemingly trying to lose – a black comedy that is 100% in America’s rich stupidity tradition – Democrats have gone all-in on this theory of foreign infiltration. House speaker Nancy Pelosi even said as much in a White House meeting, pointing at Trump and proclaiming: “All roads lead to Putin.”
All? Seriously? Is this ever going to end?
Taibbi also had a recent article that was apparently too much for Rolling Stone to publish,
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup