Comment by nice try
If by “the gods”, you mean “the Rothschilds/Soros”… the US/NATO/EU MIC axis has become too difficult for the 0.001% to control. Destruction in the name of profit is all well and good, but the political/corporate psychopath puppets the 0.001% put in charge of running the show in US/NATO/EU have come to believe their own mythology… that a New World Order can be achieved., and the MIC/Deep State will rule supreme.
The realization has dawned on the Rothschild/Bilderberg/Davos class that there are ample nukes to ensure they and theirs do not survive an atomic WW3. So Clinton “somehow” doesn’t win the election, and the potential of the 0.001% deliberately crashing the Bretton Woods/US$-reserve-currency system is being made increasingly clear. Clear to all except the blind psychopaths at the top political/military/corporate levels. To use the Stanford Prison Experiment analogy, the guards think they are in charge of the entire prison system, not merely hired, brainwashed thugs working for the 0.001%.
The fly in the ointment is that the Rothschild/Soros/Bilderberg/Davos class has not been able to gain full control over Russia, China and Iran. In the past, the 0.001% could use an emerging empire to topple the established ones. The Axis powers of WW2 finally weakened the old European empires to the point the US empire could easily be put in place with little public or political awareness. The Marshal Plan and the United Nations being billed as the road to inevitable peace… once China and the USSR were contained, infiltrated and subdued to meet the cheap resource/labour requirements of the 0.001% capitalists.
Add in the current infighting between the long-view generational “old money” Rothschilds/Rockefeller-class and the impatient “new money” Soros/Gates/Koch-class and you have a nuclear powder keg, with idiots like Soros throwing regime-change/refugee matches at any fuse he can find.
Wikileaks and Snowden represent a millennial sub-class in the spy-spook industry that also knows the nukes will be pointed at the sitting-duck facilities they work in. The leakers are smart enough to know the only way to get those nukes pointed elsewhere is to make the NSA/CIA spying establishment impotent. Think fragging, but instead of killing the brainwashed officers, they are killing the system by exposing its secrets to public scrutiny. Spying when everyone knows you’re doing it… is not spying… it’s being stupid
When patriots are no longer willing to be cannon fodder or simply follow psychopathic orders, the empire fails.
Nice comment!
My thoughts and observations go sometimes in simmilar directions.
Regarding your last sentance:
“When patriots are no longer willing to be cannon fodder or simply follow psychopathic orders, the empire fails.”
Well, in only few years, maybe less than 10, Robots can do the job.
And we can only hope that we have more than a few Vasili Arkhipov’s refusing to push the “go” button on the robots/drones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov
Good morning. I was on my way to the cafe when this new post by a fellow or sororal commenter caught my eye. From a first reading it merits more serious study. I’ll stop by later to do that. Right now I need the cafe to start my day. Cheers.
The Trump dream is over.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-15/trump-nominates-another-goldman-banker-key-treasury-position
Draining the swamp… by absorbing it into cabinet positions?
Sadly, yes… what little hope there was seems to have disappeared, one cabinet position and Executive Order at a time.
A fine analysis, especially this flourish at the end:
“Think fragging, but instead of killing the brainwashed officers, they are killing the system by exposing its secrets to public scrutiny. Spying when everyone knows you’re doing it… is not spying… it’s being stupid
When patriots are no longer willing to be cannon fodder or simply follow psychopathic orders, the empire fails.”
It has occurred to me that the US would be better off entirely shutting down its cancerous 16 or 19 headed Gestapo (no one seems to remember just how many heads it has) and staying home, safe and sound, behind its two ocean-sized moats.
In the end, no one has done more harm to the Empire than Gene Rodenberry, with his sophomoric paean to Fascism – ‘Star Dreck’. We morons (‘US’ – in both meanings of the word), were made even more stupid than was our genetic lot by that tedious, thousand-hour-long social-engineering experiment. Afterwards, the stupidest of us, were handed trillion dollar budgets to add a dash of Hugo Boss to the pyjamas sported by the early crews of the Starship(free)Enterprise and build ourselves larger than studio-size copies of the ‘Holo (caust?) Deck’.
Life imitates art? Hell, yeah! Then ‘Fraggle Rock’ may be the only answer to all this.
Not just the all the alphabet- CIA/etc. spy-agencies, but all of the Pentagon/MIC that is not required for actual defense. Then Trumpy would have his $trillions for infrastructure, pensions, healthcare, free schools from JK-to-Doctoral, etc. etc….
And the world could stop rebuilding from every every POTUS trying to prove how “tough” he is.
Interesting times indeed, but I don’t think the Empire has any inclination to close shop and call it a day just on a whim. Or because Empire’s henchmen scrolling through their Twitter feeds full of hate mails are scared to death and hand in their resignations by the millions tomorrow morning.
No, the Empire is here to stay for quite some time. But thanks to the internet we the people have all necessary intel available to navigate the mirror halls of delusions and deceptions that have kept our forefathers and us from realizing the full breadth and depth of Empire. It far surpasses anything any of us has been able to imagine.
Once we understand the not only magnitude of our problem but also its many labyrinthine intricacies, we even might start thinking about solutions…
Meanwhile, we have to relearn what all people of all times have done very successfully – living rich, creative, fulfilling lives as individuals and with our families, friends, gangs, interest groups, circles, sanghas in the midst of oppressive Empires.
There is no greater adventure.
Nice comment, nice try, thanks. I found something on which I disagree : “The realization has dawned on the Rothschild/Bilderberg/Davos class that there are ample nukes to ensure they and theirs do not survive an atomic WW3 ” – in this case, I have doubts on their mental and moreover on their spiritual capacities. 1) they don’t really care if they die, they have achieved the status of “gods” in their lifetime and if they perish, the whole world shall perish because they want so.
2) they may believe the idea that they can survive, decimating the much of the world and then be kings and gods forever. The depth of their spiritual darkness has no limits. One thing is sure, as long as they are still here on this planet, there is no chance for any change, just maybe, by war. (which is already going on, on very different levels) The root of the infection must be eradicated and that does not gonna be by peaceful means.
The aim of talmudo-satanism is oblivion. For obvious reasons.
@ _smr, ioan and Franz: Thank you (and to all who commented) for such well-considered responses, and yes, a little clarification is in order. But I never imagined HS would select a post of mine for such an honour, so please bear with me.
I don’t think the likes of the Rothschilds, Soros, Bushes, Kennedy’s, Saudi Royals et. al. actually believe the religions/ideologies they claim to. They believe in the wealth and power/influence that the manipulation of these sectarian/socio-economic tools can bring them, nothing more. They play geopolitics like chess (Zbigniew Brzezinski come to mind?), where certain of their “own” assets/positions (i.e. human beings/countries) may need to be sacrificed in the grand play for world domination.
How many Rothschilds stood up for their “beliefs” and died in the Nazi death camps? All blood relatives were safely in the US.
As much as Franz dislikes Star Trek, it does have some redeeming commentary, but I agree, often buried in too much US-style triumphalism, hubris and macho/militarist overtones. I think of the Rothschids and other religion/ideology manipulators like “Ardra” in “The Devil’s Due”. They will cynically attach themselves to whatever belief system serves their purposes.
But it would be good if the Star Trek utopian hope that poverty and ignorance be eliminated was realized. As Dickens intoned: “This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”― A Christmas Carol
The rank and file of those religions may actually believe the ancient scribblings (and their ever-evolving, self-serving interpretations) but the 0.001% are under no illusions, and know that banking on “the afterlife” is a tenuous reward. Besides, at least for the Christian Zionists, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24) And yes, know the machinations and gyration scholars have gone through to square this with the Old Testament/Torah meme that wealth is bestowed on the good by God. And yet the meek shall inherit the earth… only after the 0.001% and their minions have blown it up? So maybe we need to encourage those who believe such things to join their Jesus the socialist-pacifist, instead of the Zionist Old Testament/Revelation warmongers/doom-porn-wishers. The Zionists have no ideological power if the Christians are not fighting each other, as well as Muslims for them.
So no, the 0.001% are not “going out of business” anytime soon, but they are realizing that the ideologue psychopaths they manipulated into place, like Clintons, McCain, Bushes and Trump (plus a lot of generals), are writing nuclear-WW3 cheques that even the Rothschilds don’t want cashed. They must change their past modus operandi to stay alive, even if it means a temporary setback in the current Deep State grab at world domination via the US/NATO/MIC/Bretton Woods scam/crash. Controlling the world economy etc. will be much more complex in a strongly multi-polar/currency system.
The 0.001% are by definition calculatingly materialistic, self-centred and don’t want to die anymore than the rest of us. The dynasties must be preserved, as history easily shows. Before nuclear proliferation, the socio-economic damage they caused could be fairly easily directed and localized. Not now. Putin and Xi, who know exactly who is manipulating what/where/when/how/why are not under the 0.001%’s control and will not protect the Zionist 0.001% in particular… double jeopardy.
So a big THANK YOU to HS, and again to all who took the time to read and respond.
Talk of resignations is silly daydreaming. Outside the system there are few or no (depending on location) jobs one can support a family on — to say nothing of losing vested pension contributions (probably another joke, but one for another time & thread).
Wasn’t it Brecht who said, “First the belly — then the morals” ?
@ Talks-to-Cats: I’m confused. It was _smr’s statement “Or because Empire’s henchmen scrolling through their Twitter feeds full of hate mails are scared to death and hand in their resignations by the millions tomorrow morning.”
If you were replying to _smr and not referring to my original post, it would help if you prefaced your replies to a specific poster with “@ some-poster”
I agree few techno-spies will resign, but we have Snowden, Manning, whoever passed the original DNC leak, the revelation that a Dem-hired ex-UK spook was behind the Trump-hotel-room-scandal BS and now Vault 7 leak as testament that there are serious cracks forming in the Wall of Silence that preserves the whole Five Eyes spy system.
I clearly, only, stated that the key 0.001% and the techno-spies must realize they can no longer expect to be left out of the devastation they precipitate, as they have been able to in the past. As such, unchecked warmongers like Clinton and loose-cannons like Trump and his generals are a direct personal danger, as once the nukes fly, Putin and Xi will ensure the Rothschild/Soros-class-0.001% and the US/NATO spy infrastructure are top-of-list.
And a fuller take on Brecht would be Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs… self preservation is the most fundamental of all needs. So my premise stands.
Bertolt did not say: “First the Mercedes Benz, then the morals.”
As for the Hierarchy of Needs, as one slips into doing evil, the concept of self-preservation morphs into a Talmudo-Satanist hatred of the entire human race, who, hypothetically know ‘what you have been up to.”
@ Franz: I can’t say what Brecht meant, and no one should try to put words in his mouth. Even Freud had to admit, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Sorry, no, I don’t think the Rothschilds or any other 0.001%er truly believes in anything but saving their own skin and money/power. They simply can’t afford to have as warped as sense of reality as you suggest and continue to choose rational direction and retain influence/control over the 0.01% command structure. Like any cover story, they will encourage a deceptive narrative to obscure the facts. It’s about ZIONISM, right? And all those Kazar/Bolshevic plots… nope, just a bunch of uber-wealthy bullies demonstrating Milgram and Zimbardo’s theses while using Bernays methods to hide the reality from the masses.
Are they psychopathic? Absolutely. But then so are most major-corporation CEOs and top-level generals. Hanging unprovable labels like “Talmudo-Satanist” simply allows line of MSM to dismiss/ignore any claims made under that label as tin-foil-hat material. The MSM BS-coverage that the Rothschilds aren’t religious fanatics, just Jewish (even Zionist is acceptable) supporters of Israel is not affected one bit. Anyone who has seen “The Corporation” realizes that if the corporations are by definition psychopathic, then the people who make the decisions and run them are too. First and foremost the Rothschilds are businessmen. If they didn’t have a long-standing mega-corporate/financial empire, they would never have been handed the Balfour Declaration, Israel would not exist.
Countless human-concocted end-of-the-world religious scenarios have come and gone, and the universe just keeps chugging along as if those gods don’t exist.
Yesterday we have witnessed the “awakening” of the conscience in Holland, tomorrow we’ll witness maybe on the same way in France. The people are probably happy the winter has gone, the spring is coming and they already planning their summer holidays. The MSM is also doing her job and the internet has a lot of joyful sites for young people…sleep sheep, sleep, till the very deep.
We saw a similar “Sunny Ways awakening” in Canada in reaction to nearly a decade of Harperite Tea Party North dictatorship. Alas, our Prince of Selfies has feet of clay, the only possible exception to carrying on with wolfish Harperite policies in sheep’s clothes being the legalization of cannabis. No legal pot, no next election win… never mind True-dough is sending troops to support he Kiev junta and trying to sign trade deals even Trump won’t… the majority Canadians are also a sheepish, too polite for our own good lot.
The Dutch saw Wilders as a step too far down the Trumpish road. How the rest plays out remains to be seen. At least they reclaimed a fair number of tonnes of WW2 “safekeeping” gold for their complicity in the MH-17 “report” propaganda whitewash. No sense walking away empty handed, but the very fact the US allowed the transfer shows how weak the Deep State/Rothchild hand really is.
I try to get closer to the reality : the Dutch people enjoy a pretty good standard of living, they are peaceful people and conservative in their inner hearts. Beside that, the “original” Dutch peoples are falling back in numbers since the 80’s, the Dutch with migration roots are ascending in numbers, mostly the non-Europeans. The majority of these people have voted against Wilders – not for fear the he might be like Trump, but mainly for his approach toward immigration. The parallel with trump’s immigration an overall policies has not too much weight in their balance. The other reason is the conservationism ; they value too much their liberties and well-being, why to put it in any danger of change in something new the fear for ? One more note : the Dutch people are looking with one eye at Germany, so if there is no change in Germany, why should be in Holland – they say. If Germany shall change, then Holland will follow.
Like this guy he couldn’t do I anymore
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/5-things-an-elite-dutch-banking-whistleblower-tells-us/
I think the argument, or observation, would be stengthened by a more detailed list of who exactly the 0.001% is in reality. Does someone keep a list of these people somewhere?
It is not about old money and new money it is about Khazars and Zionists. The Khazar Talmudists want Ukraine and represent the Left, have you not seen this? it is quite clear. And the Zionist Talmudists want greater Israel, but both have one thing in common and play ball to get it and that is world hegemony, which eventually will give both groups what they want. They have infighting to see who’s individual agenda gets to be first after all everyone wants to reign supreme but that still does not divide them from their common talmudic goal.