It is perfectly clear that no amount of facts, figures, logic or reasonable argument will make the slightest impression on the determination of certain parties to have a war.
And the fact – brought out by Mr Watson in the video clip – that Mr Trump’s policy in Syria is identical to Mr Obama’s and what Mrs Clinton would have pursued, proves what Mr Putin has often said: the USA holds elections and appoints new presidents, but its policies never change. The whole “democracy” business is a masquerade – something that Russia understands very well.
Over the period from 2012 to 2018 there had been no evidence to prove the use of poisonous agents, Red Crescent doctor Mohammed Adnan Tbanga said
DAMASCUS, April 8. /TASS/. The Syrian Arab Red Crescent specialists have found no evidence of the use of chemical weapons by government troops in the town of Douma in Eastern Ghouta, Red Crescent representatives said on Sunday.
“I have worked in Douma’s cental hospital for seven years. There was an incident in January 2018 when we had six patients with breathing problems. After a medical examination we found no toxic agents. They underwent oxygen therapy and we had no evidence of the use of poisonous agents,” Seif Aldin Hobia, a doctor working with the Red Crescent, said.
Another Red Crescent doctor, Mohammed Adnan Tbanga, said that over the period he had been working with the organizations from 2012-2018 there had been no evidence to prove the use of poisonous agents.
Earlier in the day, the Russian Foreign Ministry rejected as fake news Saturday’s reports on an alleged chemical attack carried out by the Syrian government forces in Douma near Damascus. Allegations about the use of chemical agents by the Syrian government forces are aimed at justifying external military strikes, the ministry said.
The Russian defense ministry also refuted reports that the Syrian forces had used chemical weapons in Douma in Eastern Ghouta. According to Head of the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the Warring Sides in Syria Major General Yuri Yevtushenko, the allegations that a chlorine barrel bomb had been dropped in Douma by the Syrian armed forces came from the so-called independent non-governmental organizations, including the White Helmets, which is widely known for its fake news.
Meanwhile, the Russian defense ministry said on Sunday an agreement had been reached with the Jaysh al-Islam armed group (that reportedly resumed combat operations against government forces on Saturday) to evacuate its militants from Douma. The ministry stressed that allegations about chemical attacks are used by a number of Western countries to break down this operation.
This is typical of Russian/Syrian propaganda. I’ve read from a variety independent sources and experts that Sarin has been used by the Assad regime to kill civilians. Trump realized that Assad and his puppet master Putin will stop at nothing to get their own way . I hope the tide will turn and both thugs get strung up by the populace they claim to represent just like Mussolini was.
Erik Rivas
No, Assad never gassed his own people. Why should he ? So that he can incriminate himself and have the US and NATO can accuse him of doing something ISIS did ? The first time Assad was accused of using gas, the West was quick to condemn him, yet at the same time ISIS commanders openly admitted they were responsible, as they did not know how to use gas canisters. Just to remind you that Assad is fighting ISIS, and NOT his own people. What you have written is beyond any logic.
I didn’t say that Putin was behind the gassing of Syrian per se but Assad has used both chlorine gas and barrel-bombs on civilian populations. His father Hafez massacred thousands (rebels and civilians) in an uprising in Hama in 1982. He didn’t use chemical weapons, he used helicopter gunships and the like. Like the majority of Arab leaders who are thugs, why would you expect Bashar to use anything less than his father.? Assad is simply lying. He can propagandize about victory all he wants, but he hold on power is tenuous, this is why he will resort to chemical warfare if necessary to hold on to power. If it weren’t for Putin’s military support he would probably be gone by now. I think his days are numbered. The Kurds have holding their own very well, but Iran will continue through its proxy in Hezobollah in southern Syria will try to gain a bigger foothold there. If push comes to shove, you will DEFINITELY see Israel continue to cripple Hezbollah and Syria attempt to get nuclear weapons (Remember Israel destroying the Syrian reactor in 2008). Also, as evidenced by the latest attack by Israel on Syria, with regards to it’s own safety, Israel doesn’t give a flip about what Putin. If necessary, they will strike at the very heart of Iran’s nuclear facilities if it feels threatened.
ForeignPolicy.com is published by The FP Group, a division of Graham Holdings Company. Donald Edward Graham is Chairman of Graham Holdings Company. He was formerly the lead independent director of Facebook’s board of directors. Facebook is a well known CIA-controlled company. Graham is also an invitee of the Bilderberg Group. Therefore I do not personally take this source too serious, in this case.
And even if the person saying this through ForeignPolicy.com, this is no hard evidence against Assad.People lie in wars. The person could be lying through his teeth, or could have been exposed by gas from extreme sects.
Russia and Syria wanted an independent investigation, but did not get it. To me that says something.
Syria’s democracy, who strongly supports Assad, has no reason to use illegal gas in a war they are winning with conventional means, with support of Putin, who is also strongly democratically supported by Russians.
Using gas is a crime of war, and we all know which side in this war, and what kind of people in this war, are well known for illegal crimes against humanity. They must of course be prime suspects here. That is secteristic dictators and the regime in the USA since the end of WW2, these death cults, who are well known for such crimes against humanity. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Agent Orange, depleted uranium warheads, invasion with no evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq. You name it! That regime did it, without democratic support for such mass-killings from the US citizens.
These extreme death cults are loosing the war. A majority of Syrians hate them for this war, and therefore the extreme sects have all reasons to use gas and blame it on Syria’s democracy. Their sect allows lies if it benefits them.
The military industrial complex’s psychopaths have all reasons to use lies to convince the US citizens. War brings money into their pockets. The US citizens pay for it. Well, the richest 1% now pays much less for it, thanks to the republicans and Trump.
Who will pay this bill is still unknown, but probably the US citizens 99% will pay to the rich death cult sects, as usual, unless there is a big change, like Democratic Socialists, true Libertarians and The Green joining in a rainbow coalition to get rid of the corrupt warmongering s.c. “Democrats” and “Republicans” in the US congress.
Russia don not want an independent investigation. They want a cover up. This is why they allow the OPCW in to investigate well after the alleged attack and then veto any attempts to apportion blame. They ‘support’ the findings of the OPCW but will not allow any judgements on responsibility. There seems to be a belief that there is an anti-Russian campaign in the UK but you cannot ignore the flagrant disregard for human rights and personal freedoms that Russia practices. Another attempt by the left in this country to push pseudo-Bolshevism onto the UK.
what do you know. Do you have physical evidence who actually did the gas attack? I have not seen any evidence of anyone who is there on site who is unbiased?
You are ill informed if you think that the Syrian government and Russia is behind the attack. I mean just think about it logically. Why would Assad and Russia drop a chemical weapon in an area where it is about to declare victory and regain control. How would that be logical thing to do??? Open your eyes, the US and other western governments are behind this and looking for reason to intervene militarily to serve their own interest and plunge the country into further chaos. Look no further than Libya and Iraq as examples. Go read, educate yourself and gain knowledge about what’s really happening in this world of ours. They fear those with knowledge but control those without it.
The US is moving ships into the Mediterranean near Syria AS WE SPEAK to prepare for war with Syria and by that token, Russia. The basis is the allegation of the Syrian Government (inexplicably) gassing its own civilians. That is our motive. Ostensibly.
Now ask yourself; Do you really believe that the same government (USA) which is killing our own babies with vaccines – gives a shit about kids in Syria?
Paul Joseph Watson at his best
It is perfectly clear that no amount of facts, figures, logic or reasonable argument will make the slightest impression on the determination of certain parties to have a war.
And the fact – brought out by Mr Watson in the video clip – that Mr Trump’s policy in Syria is identical to Mr Obama’s and what Mrs Clinton would have pursued, proves what Mr Putin has often said: the USA holds elections and appoints new presidents, but its policies never change. The whole “democracy” business is a masquerade – something that Russia understands very well.
Over the period from 2012 to 2018 there had been no evidence to prove the use of poisonous agents, Red Crescent doctor Mohammed Adnan Tbanga said
DAMASCUS, April 8. /TASS/. The Syrian Arab Red Crescent specialists have found no evidence of the use of chemical weapons by government troops in the town of Douma in Eastern Ghouta, Red Crescent representatives said on Sunday.
“I have worked in Douma’s cental hospital for seven years. There was an incident in January 2018 when we had six patients with breathing problems. After a medical examination we found no toxic agents. They underwent oxygen therapy and we had no evidence of the use of poisonous agents,” Seif Aldin Hobia, a doctor working with the Red Crescent, said.
Another Red Crescent doctor, Mohammed Adnan Tbanga, said that over the period he had been working with the organizations from 2012-2018 there had been no evidence to prove the use of poisonous agents.
Earlier in the day, the Russian Foreign Ministry rejected as fake news Saturday’s reports on an alleged chemical attack carried out by the Syrian government forces in Douma near Damascus. Allegations about the use of chemical agents by the Syrian government forces are aimed at justifying external military strikes, the ministry said.
The Russian defense ministry also refuted reports that the Syrian forces had used chemical weapons in Douma in Eastern Ghouta. According to Head of the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the Warring Sides in Syria Major General Yuri Yevtushenko, the allegations that a chlorine barrel bomb had been dropped in Douma by the Syrian armed forces came from the so-called independent non-governmental organizations, including the White Helmets, which is widely known for its fake news.
Meanwhile, the Russian defense ministry said on Sunday an agreement had been reached with the Jaysh al-Islam armed group (that reportedly resumed combat operations against government forces on Saturday) to evacuate its militants from Douma. The ministry stressed that allegations about chemical attacks are used by a number of Western countries to break down this operation.
http://tass.com/world/998452
This is typical of Russian/Syrian propaganda. I’ve read from a variety independent sources and experts that Sarin has been used by the Assad regime to kill civilians. Trump realized that Assad and his puppet master Putin will stop at nothing to get their own way . I hope the tide will turn and both thugs get strung up by the populace they claim to represent just like Mussolini was.
Please Name or provide a link to one of your “sources”.
Erik Rivas
No, Assad never gassed his own people. Why should he ? So that he can incriminate himself and have the US and NATO can accuse him of doing something ISIS did ? The first time Assad was accused of using gas, the West was quick to condemn him, yet at the same time ISIS commanders openly admitted they were responsible, as they did not know how to use gas canisters. Just to remind you that Assad is fighting ISIS, and NOT his own people. What you have written is beyond any logic.
There are many firsthand testimonies of Syrian civilians gassed by Assad.:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/21/i-was-gassed-by-bashar-al-assad/
I didn’t say that Putin was behind the gassing of Syrian per se but Assad has used both chlorine gas and barrel-bombs on civilian populations. His father Hafez massacred thousands (rebels and civilians) in an uprising in Hama in 1982. He didn’t use chemical weapons, he used helicopter gunships and the like. Like the majority of Arab leaders who are thugs, why would you expect Bashar to use anything less than his father.? Assad is simply lying. He can propagandize about victory all he wants, but he hold on power is tenuous, this is why he will resort to chemical warfare if necessary to hold on to power. If it weren’t for Putin’s military support he would probably be gone by now. I think his days are numbered. The Kurds have holding their own very well, but Iran will continue through its proxy in Hezobollah in southern Syria will try to gain a bigger foothold there. If push comes to shove, you will DEFINITELY see Israel continue to cripple Hezbollah and Syria attempt to get nuclear weapons (Remember Israel destroying the Syrian reactor in 2008). Also, as evidenced by the latest attack by Israel on Syria, with regards to it’s own safety, Israel doesn’t give a flip about what Putin. If necessary, they will strike at the very heart of Iran’s nuclear facilities if it feels threatened.
ForeignPolicy.com is published by The FP Group, a division of Graham Holdings Company. Donald Edward Graham is Chairman of Graham Holdings Company. He was formerly the lead independent director of Facebook’s board of directors. Facebook is a well known CIA-controlled company. Graham is also an invitee of the Bilderberg Group. Therefore I do not personally take this source too serious, in this case.
And even if the person saying this through ForeignPolicy.com, this is no hard evidence against Assad.People lie in wars. The person could be lying through his teeth, or could have been exposed by gas from extreme sects.
Russia and Syria wanted an independent investigation, but did not get it. To me that says something.
Syria’s democracy, who strongly supports Assad, has no reason to use illegal gas in a war they are winning with conventional means, with support of Putin, who is also strongly democratically supported by Russians.
Using gas is a crime of war, and we all know which side in this war, and what kind of people in this war, are well known for illegal crimes against humanity. They must of course be prime suspects here. That is secteristic dictators and the regime in the USA since the end of WW2, these death cults, who are well known for such crimes against humanity. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Agent Orange, depleted uranium warheads, invasion with no evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq. You name it! That regime did it, without democratic support for such mass-killings from the US citizens.
These extreme death cults are loosing the war. A majority of Syrians hate them for this war, and therefore the extreme sects have all reasons to use gas and blame it on Syria’s democracy. Their sect allows lies if it benefits them.
The military industrial complex’s psychopaths have all reasons to use lies to convince the US citizens. War brings money into their pockets. The US citizens pay for it. Well, the richest 1% now pays much less for it, thanks to the republicans and Trump.
Who will pay this bill is still unknown, but probably the US citizens 99% will pay to the rich death cult sects, as usual, unless there is a big change, like Democratic Socialists, true Libertarians and The Green joining in a rainbow coalition to get rid of the corrupt warmongering s.c. “Democrats” and “Republicans” in the US congress.
Russia don not want an independent investigation. They want a cover up. This is why they allow the OPCW in to investigate well after the alleged attack and then veto any attempts to apportion blame. They ‘support’ the findings of the OPCW but will not allow any judgements on responsibility. There seems to be a belief that there is an anti-Russian campaign in the UK but you cannot ignore the flagrant disregard for human rights and personal freedoms that Russia practices. Another attempt by the left in this country to push pseudo-Bolshevism onto the UK.
Hi Eric. You’re one of the Americans I had in mind when writing this post over in the Moveable Feast Café:
/moveable-feast-cafe-2018-04-06/#comment-507842
It’s great to have your views here, to help some of us illustrate our point!
Cheers!
Nice parody of the brainwashed Exceptionalist dullard, Moshe. Bonus hasbara points for you!
what do you know. Do you have physical evidence who actually did the gas attack? I have not seen any evidence of anyone who is there on site who is unbiased?
You are ill informed if you think that the Syrian government and Russia is behind the attack. I mean just think about it logically. Why would Assad and Russia drop a chemical weapon in an area where it is about to declare victory and regain control. How would that be logical thing to do??? Open your eyes, the US and other western governments are behind this and looking for reason to intervene militarily to serve their own interest and plunge the country into further chaos. Look no further than Libya and Iraq as examples. Go read, educate yourself and gain knowledge about what’s really happening in this world of ours. They fear those with knowledge but control those without it.
The US is moving ships into the Mediterranean near Syria AS WE SPEAK to prepare for war with Syria and by that token, Russia. The basis is the allegation of the Syrian Government (inexplicably) gassing its own civilians. That is our motive. Ostensibly.
Now ask yourself; Do you really believe that the same government (USA) which is killing our own babies with vaccines – gives a shit about kids in Syria?