I often get justly criticized for using designations like “the West” or “Anglos” because they are misnomers. Frankly, I have to plead guilty to this offense because yes, I do use them, and yes, they are misnomers. Even saying “the Ukrainians” or “the Russians” is an oversimplification. My only defense is to say that I have to assume that the readers of this blog are intelligent and educated enough to understand that when I say, for example, “the Americans” I do not mean every single citizen of the United State any more than when I say “the Germans” in the context of WWII I mean every single living German person of that time. Still, I regularly feel a little guilty about using such possibly ambiguous categories and I welcome the opportunity to set the record strait.
Just today an anonymous poster wrote in a comment that Israel did not support the USA in the Ukrainian crisis. I fully agreed and posted the following reply:
That is quite true and it is too bad that people often lump Israelis with AngloZionists because, as you correctly point out, the Israelis are generally backing Russia in this case. For example, Israel has offered to help Crimea get water (http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1793436.html) although in the end the Russian military will end up providing the water by building a pipeline under the water. There are just too many Russian Jews in Israel not to realize that the Ukie regime is neo-Nazi and racist. Besides, Bandera was never popular amongst Russian Jews for obvious reasons.
The topic of Russian-Israeli relations in a fascinating and very complex one which really would deserve a full analysis, and if/when things cool down in the Ukraine I will write one, but today I just wanted to illustrate that even my “AngloZionist” category, by which I still stand as being basically correct, can lead to misinterpretation and that even “Zionist” and “Israeli” can, in some instances, be two very different things.
One of my correspondents today sent me some beautiful pictures taken in Vienna with his cellphone which show that the category “the West” also should only be understood as “those who rule over the West” (just like all these other categories should really be understood as preceded by “those who rule over”).
While official Europe is de-facto backing neo-Nazis, while the western official historiography is increasingly trying erase the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler, while Russia is neither invited to, or even congratulated with, celebrations of Victory Day – there are some people in the West who, of course, remember the truth and do act on it.
Thanks to “D” for sending me these photos and giving me the opportunity to address the issue of the categories I use on this blog.
The Saker
PS: look at the amount of flowers people brought!
RE: the guy complaining about the use of America for the USA, and Americans for US citizens.
The USA was the first country to pull free of colonial rule on our side of the planet. Thus, we became known as Americans, because every other people living this hemisphere were Spaniards, French, etc. The usage didn’t change when Latin American countries broke away, they became Colombians, whatever, not “Americans.”
99% of the time the people complaining about the “America” limited to USA use the word only in that sense themselves. Do I need to quote endless Latin American rants about “Americans” to prove my point? They only pretend to be “Americans” when they are pretending to be offended, just another axe to grind against us.
Also, for practical reasons, it is just easier to say American, than it is to say, United States citizen and/or legal resident (green card holder). See how much longer and complicated it becomes? Thus, “American.”
Dear All,
I believe there is one commonality between those who rule “West” and the Zionists.
Both consider themselves as “exceptional” and a notch above the rest.
It is like these would set up rules which has to be followed by the rest of the World but at the first opportunity the “West” and the Zionists wold break these rules because they happen to be “exceptional”-s and above the rest.
I would love to know what are the motivating ideological , socio-economic and religious factors behind the continuance of this attitude on the part of those who rule the “West” and the Zionists ?
Take care
Debanjan
Dear All,
I believe there is one commonality between those who rule “West” and the Zionists.
Both consider themselves as “exceptional” and a notch above the rest.
It is like these would set up rules which has to be followed by the rest of the World but at the first opportunity the “West” and the Zionists wold break these rules because they happen to be “exceptional”-s and above the rest.
I would love to know what are the motivating ideological , socio-economic and religious factors behind the continuance of this attitude on the part of those who rule the “West” and the Zionists ?
Take care
Debanjan
@ crone
The student said he was Israeli American; the youtube description provides a transcript of the conversation not all of which is very clear
Yes Saker, back on topic. I have my own label for the current bunch who influence world events on our side of the fence. I call them Western Oligarchs. They mainly stem from the City of London and Wall Street but they are directed by world banking centered in Basil Switzerland with thir paws in major cities throughout their ponzy empire.
Ironically as published last year, Swiss mathematicians using fractal mathmatics found most of the worlds ineustry and bisiness controlled by less than 10 financial houses. This is no coincidence and under their steerage, these people want to introduce a global form of Neo-Feudalism.
Follow the money as in the case of most crap that occures today. These people worship at the alter of Mammon and are evil. I truely wish the people of East and South Ukraine true freedom and self determination. I have travelled there a bit and although taxi drivers can be opportunistic exept for Mykolaiv, the people are lovely, warm and rich in life. If the country was not in a state of tearing itself apart under the mechanations of oligarchs, I would move there or at least have it as a second home.
Justin.
The Truth about the Referendum in Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrtBCDDOUSE
Seems like some Germans aren’t too happy with Merkel. NSFW (not safe for work warning)!
https://twitter.com/LowMaintainLife/status/465921109226192897/photo/1
Comment part 1
Propaganda is usually most effective when it works subliminally.
The notion of binary logic is simultaneous exclusive and inclusive. Binary logic is linear.
Linear logic is a pre-requisite for the notion that everything remains qualitatively the same – the notion of the end of history attempting to re-inforce the supposed status quo.
Linear logic is based on the notion of a quantitative spectrum.
Lateral logic is based on the notion of qualitative change – understanding quantitative change as the perception of the qualitative change at a specific moment in process.
A small example – when is an avalanche an avalanche?
Asking a question is an
opportunity to examine dissonance.
Broadcast and response, within which is included silence, are an opportunity for data collection, the purpose of which is to analyse the data and respond if valid, thereby catalysing a process.
A word or notion without definition is an opportunity to invest it with prejudice.
Prejudice or pre-judgement tends to be based on pre-existing ideological notions; ideology being the notions required for a specific social arrangement to function, ingested and partly validated by a kind of osmosis through the process of existing within a specific social arrangement.
A close synonym of prejudice is intuition.
Recent scientific studies have measured the efficiency of intuition – very low.
To use a simple metaphor, propaganda is a fishing net wriggling in which leads generally to greater enmeshment.
The smart strategy is based on recognising the fishing net, avoiding the fishing net, and warning your friends of the existence of the fishing net and the probable consequences for them if they enter the fishing net, whilst allowing the fisherman to believe that the fish are swimming elsewhere this year, so either his net needs moving or he needs to be more patient.
From all of the above you will see the notion of the West is a master stroke, especially since the planet is approximately spherical – in usage by others as evidence of the acceptance of the irrational and demonstrable lie. To be continued
Comment part 2
The Achilles heel of the opponent is its self absorption, in its myriad forms, subsumed in which is the notion of difference.
The notion of difference is the basis of exchange, where as the lateral transcendence of this is sharing.
The present prevailing practice of difference is based on the notion that some are more equal than others.
The notion of difference is subsumed in the notion that great thinkers were sole authors of their “works”, whereas thought is a collective effort without sole authors, although the appearance ofsole scribes can exist to muddy the waters. Consider Lao Tzu and Tao Te Ching but interact with them – books are conversations transported over space and time.
Realise that they lived in a different time (moment in process) and that consequently it is possible to build on their notions.
The world and the phenomena within it, is a dynamic interactive lateral system.
At certain moments in process, some of the interacting sub-processes can be catalysed to metamorphise, which leads to change to some degree in what might be viewed as macro-process.
We are at such a moment of catalytic opportunity thanks to the hubris of the opponent.
Mistakes are the perception that the perceived results differ from the expected results.
Scientists generally see this as an opportunity to form a new hypothesis; lawyers typically looking for someone to blame.
Another interesting phenomena is that lawyers are trained to seek a modicum of certainty within relatively qualitatively static criteria – in effect always seeking to assuage doubt , whereas scientists are not trained to seek omniscience but to value doubt and co-operation. You may have noticed that many of the “politicians” have trained in law.
Embrace mistakes since through their analysis lies progress.
Don’t be angry or depressed – enjoy the non-linear ride – its a process not a “result” – remembering as well to help catalyse process.
You might have noticed – the opponent is angry, and anger is not a good basis for rational discovery.
Always seek to reinforce your opponents prejudices.
Make your opponent more angry, because even in the smallest case anger leads to to stress which leads to some measure of restriction of existence.
If we are wise the opponent is not only punching water often, but simultaneously trying to command the waves to recede.
To use a supposed greeting – have a nice day.
” Michael McDonnell on 13 May, 2014 04:28 said…
they are predestined to Hell because their blood is cursed because they descend from the Christ killers.”
In Judaism there is no Hell, only Garden. In Arabic/Hebrew the word, “Janna(t)” means Garden and not Heaven.
All non-Jew they will perish, their souls will perish. As far as Jews are concerned, they will all go to Jannat. If they are real, real bad in this life, after their death, their bodies will be separated from their souls for a maximum of 6 hours.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@ Saker
I hope that a last minute attempt to find the least wrong label will be allowed.
My suggestion is “Demonocratic Empire”.
Of course, it mainly apply to the ruling parasites, but people tend to resemble their masters, like pets.
http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/can-the-church-survive-in-the-usa/
The choice is never ever been more crystal clear!
http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/eurosodom-or-euro-vision/
@ Where-wolf
Well, it did take a little more than a few further consideration, but I hope that at least it’s clear what I want to say.
http://houseofmaedhros.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/vampires-zombies-werewolves-and-the-light-of-men/
P.S. – Hitler’s economic policies should be studied in every Economic University.
About Israeli relations, whoever even talk to the managers of the most gigantic anti-Semite concentration camp that has ever existed, is worthy of them!
Thanks very much for your suggestion.Facelift Surgery Delhi
Back onto the topic of this post, Saker, I don’t find the terms you use offensive – and in fact I often find myself saying “we” meaning not me myself and my family and friends, but we, my government which for good or ill we elected back when we were lied to in 2008.
I do have one question, though, about the term ‘Banderastan’ (if I have that right). Would not that sound rather offensive to those citizens of western Ukraine that don’t like the coup government? Much of what we address here is directed at the struggles in east Ukraine, but my thoughts keep turning to those good westerners – there must be some – who would like the united Ukraine Putin spoke about during the Crimea negotiations, and my heart would like such as there are not to feel discouraged.
I would remind them that Mexico also suffered an onslaught of corporate greed from ‘us’ here when through NAFTA the agribusinesses moved in. They are now fighting back, and they haven’t lost their identity as a nation. Also, some of the coup attempts in South America succeeded only for a very short while and were eventually replaced by governments very citizen oriented.
Again, though, our government deserves all the pejorative names anyone can think of – it’s just best to keep those within reasonable polite discourse so we can address the travesties being committed in ‘our’ name.
NATO/EU media will block this news
KIEV, May 13. /ITAR-TASS/. Berkut police commandoes did not shoot at protesters during tragic events in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, last February. The Ukrainian parliamentary interim investigative committee came to this conclusion after an expertise of cartridges and bullets used by snipers.
Head of the committee Gennady Moskal believes that representatives of public organizations getting out of control could have been shooting at demonstrators. Without elaborating, which organizations were meant, Moskal noted that then “the first shot was made at policemen.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/731428
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Criminals are advancing
like father like son
Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer, has expand edits Board of Directors by bringing on Mr. R Hunter Biden as a new director.
R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”
The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: “The company’s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we’re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.”
Oh dear, re: Biden’s son, from Wikipedia:
“Prior to his current roles, Biden was a member of the Jesuit Volunteer Corps Northwest,[2] where he met his wife.[1] He was a founding partner of Oldaker, Biden, and Belair, LLP,[1] and of the mergers and acquisitions firm Eudora Global.[8]Biden was chief executive officer, and later chairman, of hedge fund PARADIGM Global Advisors, which he co-founded with his uncle James Biden and disgraced financier Allen Stanford.[7]
At MBNA Corporation, Biden was employed as a senior vice president.[7] Following that, Biden was appointed by Bill Clinton to serve in the United States Department of Commerce[7] under Secretaries Norman Mineta and William M. Daley. He was director of ecommerce policy issues in the Department of Commerce.[7] On May 16, 2006, Biden was nominated by President George W. Bush to the board of directors of Amtrak.[1] He was confirmed unanimously on July 26, 2006 by the United States Senate for a term of five years, and was the vice-chair of the board until January 29, 2009.[9]
On May 12th, 2014, Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer, announced that it had expanded its Board of Directors by bringing on Mr. R Hunter Biden as a new director.[10]”
juliana,
YES! To everything you have said. There is something totally reaffirming in seeing all those people out there voting. It gives one hope, for all of us. Because we’re all facing the same thing, and that is being “ruled”, by whomever, rather than being able to have a real say in things. Sometimes the totalitarianism is overt — various strongmen come to mind — and sometimes it is hidden, cloaked in the now-subverted institutions of representative government. But those people out there using admittedly imperfect tools to have their say, yes, it really does do something to you, doesn’t it?
WhereWolf
Omg. I just realized that “makers vs. takers” argument is another — and absolutely perfect — example of Double-Speak. Who indeed is the maker — and who is taking it all?
WizOz 2:40
WOW. It’s like trying to untangle a mess of fishing line: it still stays crimped no matter what. And those crimps — our easily ginned-up hatred — are exactly what we need to straighten out before we can really solve any of the problems facing us. So much easier to blame somebody, anybody, than roll up our sleeves and get to work, together, despite our differences.
I’m also struck by someone’s comment, and I apologise bc I don’t remember whom, questioning the extent to which we really need an international currency. That kind of blew my mind — it’s really hard to challenge underlying assumptions when you don’t even realize you’re assuming anything! But yes, aside from exchange rates — and we’ve got computers now, that can’t be too difficult — it’s just another way to funnel more away from We The People.
Many Israeli Jews are excellent people and many see the Banderisti for what they are. But the ruling Zionist elite are as dangerous and treacherous a bunch of supremacist clerico-fascists as one can imagine. To trust them is sheer madness.
With all (very!) due respect, the term ´Anglozionist´ won´t fly in W Europe.
´Antisemitism´ has now become a separate crime from ´racism´, sometimes even penalized much harsher than racism.
It is like evoking a Godwin on oneself.
(While mainstream media are becoming apologists for Bandera nazi murderers!!!).
When quoting, I sometimes have to paraphrase, explain or alter the material.
I myself use the terminology: ´neocon/ neoliberal, the 0.01 %´.
I´m fully aware it is just a word game, and the meaning is 100 % similar.
But when lay people are turned off by just a single term, it is time to find another.
Respect…