By Thorsten J. Pattberg for the Saker Blog
This week there will be an Academic Forum in Beijing on ‘Civilizations Amid Profound Changes’. It is organized by the world‘s largest academy for the social sciences: The Chinese Academy of Social Science or CASS.
You have never heard of it. You can never find it on Google, in the Western media, or wherever you think information should be available to you – it is not.
The West, and I mean the terror states of America and Europe, are the most censorious and domineering parties on earth. They make sure you will never hear or read anything Russian, anything Indian, anything Chinese [with the exception of pro-Western dissidents, of course].
The Forum is just one of many thousands of such top-tier gatherings the West cannot ever report on because if the slave people in the West knew about how far China is ahead of them, we would see regime changes in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin and Brussels. Western people are now caged people. They are the last world people, denied reality. In fact, they are now outside of humanity.
Let me explain that last statement by answering three questions about China and the West that I think more people around the world ought to know about.
1) What are the differences between China and the West?
The differences between the Chinese civilization and Western civilization are threefold: biological, environmental, and epigenetic.
First, the biological ancestral Chinese stock lived in the Yellow River basin around 9000 years ago, and expanded from there. The “East-Asians” today are the most extreme outliers in cognitive abilities; in general they have lighter bodies and larger brains.
Second, the Chinese were able to build the most advanced civilization on the planet. This is not at all a good thing, because all Western powers envied China, starting in the 13th Century, at least. Even to this day, Chinese thought and Chinese technologies are alien and incomprehensible to Europeans.
Third, epigenetic differences refer to relations. Eastern and Western cultures will always find themselves at the two opposing—yet complementary—poles of humanity, like good and evil, male and female, inductive and deductive. So, at least since the last Western imperialism 500 years ago, China came to assume the role of the evil, feminine, and inductive part of humanity. This is the cosmic balance we humans have no say in, but must make the best of our situation.
The West is very violent in this century again. It wants to go on a new crusade and conquer Asia and China.
However, by doing so, it will weaken itself again, will be partly absorbed, and the equilibrium will be maintained.
The East-West dichotomy, as described above in all points, will probably amplify over the next 1000 years. The Western people are depleted; they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago.
In the East, a Xin-Civilization—or “New Civilization”—is being forged, more intelligent and more technological than anything we have seen before. Until it will be assaulted again.
So, East and West are the two extremes of our all-we-have humanity, and our leaders on both sides and in between have to take this into account.
2) What can the West learn from China and vice versa?
There can be no artificial learning between China and the West. We cannot teach Western people Chinese thought and Chinese technology. It is impossible. We tried that for 2000 years. It doesn’t work. What will work, however, is to choose the cosmic path [the Dao] of non-action or wu-wei. Accepting that we cannot change the West, we must set out on a path of mutual respect and tolerance. If we do that, a true Great Learning [the Daxue] will come about, unimposing and most natural.
3) How should we translate Chinese thought?
Translating Chinese concepts like shengren into “saints” and zhongyong into “the middle way” appeased the West quite a bit. The West cannot learn correct Chinese thought and Chinese technology. So, China has to lower its standards for weaker forms of intelligence. This is pretty normal elsewhere. The Semitic people for example have long realized that Hebrew thought cannot be taught to goys (non-Jews). Non-Jews are given English or German translations of Jewish marching orders, and so on.
We see this, by the way, with the adverse Chinese Confucius Institutes in the West. Western educators are very superstitious of Chinese words and names. They think li and de [rituals and ethics] are all magic, or alien, and that Mandarin could seduce their children and pollute their brains.
Therefore, as the author of Shengren [a book], I have argued since my departure from Peking University in 2012, that China cannot teach Chinese to Western people. What it can do, however, is to teach a small selection of its most important key concepts.
Nothing of what I just wrote will ever transpire to a bigger Western audience. 1.4 billion patriotic Chinese are definitely not featured in the West. 300.000 Chinese intellectuals, banned. Chinese search results are not shown. Google ‘on china’ and you will be shown Henry Kissinger. Only the West must represent China. That’s why you will never find the CASS Forum on Civilization. I can’t even find the fact that I studied in China.
Fortunately, we have thousands of years to do this. It is not like the Europeans will become Chinese next week.
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The author is a German writer and cultural critic.
Are you able to provide a succinct outline of how Chinese thought differs from Western thought?
That’s not an unreasonable question, but being from a Western background you would most likely find a succinct outline unacceptable or unhelpful.
It would perhaps be best to read a few works on Daoism and Confucianism.
I’ve bee a student of Eastern philosophy for over fifty years and I’m still learning.
– An independent, critical and open mind.
– An artistic side. Love of nature and poetry. Many love calligraphy.
– A social conscience. Friendship is important. Very warm.
– A preference for win-win outcomes.
– Enthusiam of the students.
– Hates boring repetitive jobs.
– Sometimes a bad character.
– Non-perfectionists.
– Very patient and persistent.
I lived in a college in Shandong Chengyang for four months travelling all by myself during the weekends and for an extra two weeks at the end of my stay. Very good and mind opening experience as all travel outside the tourist trails is.
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IMHO this is one defining trait. If the Japanese can be thought of as perfectionists, then the Chinese are extremely practical.
The oft quoted statement from Deng Xiaoping about not bothering what colour cats are, and that it is only important that they catch mice, is very very Chinese.
Besides Western media stereotypes (lies), I don’t know how you can say the Chinese are not perfectionists? Have you looked at their ancient art work, construction techniques or ceremonies/rituals to name a few? China is a very large country and within each region are different kinds of Chinese people. The reality is that every culture has a proportion of people who are NOT perfectionists. This is likely intentional. For the Rulers, it is far easier to control non-perfectionist slaves. All historical signs show the Chinese as an advanced perfectionist race. If you live in the West, the Chinese you encounter all came from poor stock. They left China because they could not “survive/win” amongst their own kind. They immigrated for an easier life. There are cases of people leaving due to persecution or to further their riches but these are outliers and not the majority.
I know it because I am Chinese.
There is a difference between being perfectionist and being focused on improving oneself.
Perfectionist is to seek perfection for its own sake. It is a kind of addictive obsession, and has a negative connotation. The Chinese however, understand that perfectionism is but a distraction from real progress.
The very first line of the Daodejing already gives this viewpoint away.
道可道, 非常道. 名可名, 非常名
One interesting thing here is that the Japanese, striving for harmony and unity among people who are really as diverse as elsewhere, have noticed subtle personality differences between people of different blood types. My husband swears by this as a tool for coordinating socially. People with type A blood tend toward perfectionism, while those with type O blood tend toward practicality and generalization. Japan (and Britain and Germany) is predominantly type A, while China (and Russia and America) are predominantly type O.
China is informed by legends of Daoism, a cultural artifact, and various other writers going back 2000+ years.
The critical difference is that face is more important than facts, due to family relationships and reputation being the core of a clan’s strength. That is shared across many Asian cultures strong on centralized families and clans.
The primary difference is that the West and Mao prioritized material gains while Chinese literature prioritized spiritual peace and internal transformation, as well as individual martial glory and skills. For example, Hong Kong star actors have to do their own martial art stunts otherwise they lose face, they lose skill, and they don’t get internal transformation/glory. It is all tied up together. Having “face” or reputation is good, but having reputation and skill is even better for transformation and glory. Strength, above all else, also matters, especially to a decadent Westernized China transformed into the next DS military, to replace USA.
There is a massive difference in the Daoism and ancient legends of China, vs the current modern reality. But at least they still have a memory of the memory.
The 5000 years old, 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, are perfect mirrors for the 64 codons of DNA, and the symbol for the I Ching, mirrors the two dimensional image of the DNA helix, when seen under an electron microscope.
The octet Ba Gua becomes the input formula for the cosmic fractal, creating octet patterns, such as the periodic table of the elements, the ‘eight-fold’ way of sub-particle chromodynamics, and transcendental Pi.
These are impressive thoughts, from 5000 years ago!
Nonsense! Read the original sources in the original language. You do not know what you are talking about.
Well said. Mumbo-jumbo obscures the truth.
The Majority Western Christians cannot even put on the mind of Christ(1 Cor 2:16) our own religion, let alone grasp the mind of the Chinese, Russians.
Well said. A heart for people is developed only when we move ourselves out of the way. Christ came for the world’s salvation.
“Christ came for the world’s salvation” sorry but that is not accurate. Sounds like those who will say God loves everyone when clearly the Word of God states otherwise.
For God so loved THE WORLD that He gave Hid only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him will have everlasting life.
the word WORLD in John 3:16 is the Greek kosmos, referencing the plan of God in the Biblical context. It is not anthropos meaning mankind nor is it oikoumene meaning the inhabited planet or aion which is sometimes translated as world rather than age. . For a clear statement read Mat. 15:24.
Love one another as I have loved YOU.
Christ paid the sin-debt of, and for, the whole world, but not everyone “believes” it.
Jesus: “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword.”
How will Africa send the West 1000 yrs back. You mean Africa is very backward. Please don’t forget that civilization started in Africa and will end in Africa. In the End the whole world will look to Africa.
Here is an excellent video evidencing your prediction, showing the difference between intelligent rational Africa and degenerate Europe trying passionately to send Africa 1000 yrs back.
https://youtu.be/LZ6nioMimCc “Best practices for maternal health in Africa Q& A Session (United Nations Side Event)”
As I commented myself, this is a very racist piece.
Loathsome I’d say.
Surprised to read it here.
Anti-Christian and anti-Semitic articles are not uncommon here, as is a surprising tendency to turn a blind eye to China’s totalitarianism and to laud it as some kind of desirable third-way that can save us all from the evil, capitalist west.
ditto!
Actually it’s a German Nazi imputing Chinese Nazism on Western Nazis with honorable mention to Jewish Nazis.
Actually I thought it was an excellent piece — well received by this white man.
Civilization started in Scythia and spread from there and it will end in Scythia and Scythia is just another word for Russia, the Greeks called the Scythians the Father of Nations and they trace their own origin back to them.
Your Scythian theory is probably correct for the West. It doesn’t apply to China and the East.
Most likely, the Scythians’ ancestors were the Indo-Europeans of linguistic fame.
I would disagree with that because the founders of many of the the Eastern Asian civilizations came originally from the Northern parts of the country and those peoples mostly trace their origins found in the many archeological cultures of Russia/Siberia, one such people, the Aryans (Founders and main contributors of Indian civilization) trace their origin back to the Sintasha culture which is a derivative of the Eastern European/Russian Corded ware culture located directly in Russia which is the core location of Scythia,
btw the Aryans spoke Sanskrit (Most IE Eastern languages such as Persian derive themselves from this language) which is a derivative of Russian and was proven by Indian researchers to be most close and cognate with it then any other language in the world, futher there are other mythical legends about the origins of many Asian civilizations that have a strong connection with Russia such as how Japan was ruled by Rusui (the Russians) and how the imperial Japanese family claims descent from the sun goddess Amataresu (which in Russian means mother of the Russians) :
Amaterasu is the great and glorious goddess of the sun. An embodiment of the rising sun and Japan itself, she is the queen of the kami and ruler of the universe. The Japanese Imperial Family claims to have descended from her, and this is what gives them the divine right to rule Japan.
China as a word was first attested in Sanskrit (so technically Russian) and was just another word to describe Scythia/Russia probably in the meaning of ”the land of the Khans”, Khans being a Russian word for the highest ruler derivative of either Knyaz meaning prince or Knez meaning elder.
Scythians and Parthians are all from the central Asian plain. First settlements in Parthia date from 5,000 years ago and was a civilisation on par with Babylonia and Egypt at the time. It stretched from Zabol in Sistan Baluchistan to Kandahar in Afghanistan and was central to the Silk Road cutting through Afghanistan.
Even today, Tajikistan and afghanistan speak Farsi/Dari and Shia Muslims can be found near the Chinese border north of the Afghan corridor.
Hence, Russians and Iranians are from one stock.
By the way, I now live a few kilometres from The Burnt City near Zehak, center of Sakestan…
Scythians are not fondly remembered in many countries.
There are not remembered because of their historical connection to Russia as their ancestors and the foundational role they had, the Western world always wanted to destroy, plunder and colonize Russia because they always were a destructive civilization that grows in wealth, power and influence by destroying something else in this case the hard work the Russians and their descandants did in building the world up in the first place, Russia has resisted them until this time which is why the West hates them and distorted every aspect of its culture, history and achievements often times stealing them and taking it for their own.
Spoiler Alert: Russia was the refuge of the 10 lost tribes of Isis Ra El. Israel.
Get off the crack.
You ask a good question of these self-hating buffoons: you won’t get an intelligent answer. Unfortunately for the, stupidity is its own reward.
@Benny
Civilization starting in Africa, “out of Africa” is a theory i.e Monogenism, rather than Polygenism, in which the Earth’s races originated in different regions with different characteristcs (& not necessarily simultaneously). There is evidence for both.
Christian scientists are quick to seize on Monogenism as a proof of “one god” (I’m not saying there’s many gods) I’m simply questioning whether their religious beliefs have clouded their ability for critical thinking.
Same bias as the “Big Bang Theory” which dovetailed with the creation myths (of all cultures, btw, not just Genesis 1) as opposed to the Steady State Theory.
Out of Africa theory is questionable because of new archeological, genetic and material evidence that puts into question that theory, genetically speaking alot of the haplorgroups of sub-saharan africa on the Y-DNA line do not indicate an exodus but rather a migration to it (R1b, E2, J, T, E1), further when analyzing the haplogroups of sub-saharan africans on the Y line it does not seem to show that the peoples out-of Africa derive themselves from the native sub saharans only that they both go back to a common ancestor of which we are not sure where he lived,
second point is that no fossils of homo sapiens were found in sub saharan africa and most of them were found outside of it usually in the middle-east, Eurasia and Eastern Europe which is completely inconceivable if humanity spent most of their existence there,
third point is that how could humanity manage an exodus out-of Africa around 75000 to 250000 years ago through the saharan desert which is mostly a barren wasteland or the seas next to the Eastern edge when during that time humanity was in a state of primitive backwardness?
Complete nonsense.
It is a scientific fact that all humans and Neanderthals originate from Africa leaving in two waves as the earth warmed and Europe was accessible and drought came to Africa.
Sub Sahara was NOT a desert when humans left Africa in two small waves of around 59-100,000! By the way nomadic tribes STILL live in the deserts.
Also visit the national museum of Kenya there lies the oldest homo sapient fossil, lots of them!
Your problem is you don’t like the idea of being part of an African species. Would it help you if I told you the gene for white skin (3) are present in 89% of Africans and the reason you are white is as 2 genes for color were deleted as humans evolved in Europe after a bottleneck event that reduced European population to 7000 ?
So black and brown people in Africa are white genes too, don’t worry. Some Africans Also have straight hair and when your ancestors left most Africans were brown not black as black skin came from west Africa which invaded most of Africa to become the dominant cookout, they also had blonde hair and straight hair. Just like Australian aboriginals. Who were the first wave human migrants out of Africa and went furthest.
The process of out-of-africa Africans (modern humans) repopulating the rest of the world started around 82 000 – 84 000 years ago and during the first 8 000 years the new population reached as far as east coast of China, South East Asia, Australia and even Japan, but not in Europe. That stage happened 30 000 years later (45 000 – 50 000 years ago) . This has been one of the painful facts for many pro eurocentric scientists. The idea of Africa as a womb of human population is better accepted but not that Europe was never the first place for modern humans to move seems to be fact they hate because then we have to abandon the idea as Europe and Europeans as the true power house of human population. The highway was Africa-Yemen-Gulf Coast – Indian coastline – South East Asia and China’s costline.
And now some 80 000 years later the Chinese are in their global integration process driving along same highway. Europe is just small peninsula in huge Eurasian Super Continent. Europeans have to rethink certain vital things just as are they mentally ready to accept minor role in global future. We are in situation where 5 times more children are born in Africa than is Europe. 25 years later we likely have 1 to 10 birth ratio until African birth rate follows the obvious declining to “mature” level (same as common in Europe/N. America/East Asia) . That 1 to 10 (at least) is how we have understand future center of gravities outside Americas.
@Historia
I don’t know what kind of archaeology you’re talking about but according to the archeology that I’ve learned for over a decade, the Out of Africa theory is still the prominent interpretation of the spread of modern humans in the world.
Also, you’re referring to the Scythians as the first nod of civilization, but emerging evidence points to an independent development of the Chinese civilization by communities which derived from the Paleolithic hunter-gatherers who live in the northern parts of China.
Also, Several Neolithic settlements have been identified in these areas and they prove that the Chinese civilization sprung up without an outside influence. You’re using the outdated diffusion theory about the spread of civilization.
I kind of find it funny that you dont find it questionable because historically speaking most of the known migrations that happened were to Africa and not from it and you want me to believe without question that humanity in its primitive sparsely populated backward state managed to cross an entire desert 75000 to 250000 years ago even though there is very little archeological evidence to support such an exodus?
Bad science. The Sahara was green and had lakes until about 7000 BC. Then, sudden desertification.
As for the idea that people migrated into Africa, I’ve never heard that one before. You have the outlier idea, so it’s up to you to provide a source. I’ll get the popcorn ready.
I guess you never heard of the arab expansion into it and all the haplogroups like R1b, E, J that dont originate in Africa but have an outside origin plus why was it only one wave 75000+ years ago and no migration happened recently 5000 to 10000 years ago? The Sahara desert alternated climate every 15000 years where it was mostly grasslands being present but it was never directly proven that the area was suited for human migration or that people crossed through it. Provide a source? For what exactly so that it could be rejected in the liberal West that censor anything that dosent agree with their agenda and throw accusations and put words in peoples mouth talking about eurocentrism or white/brown/black skin even though that was not the central point of my argument and to make the opponent look racist, irrational and crazy like your doing right now?
In everything that your saying you haven’t shown or proven anything with any data you just say “it’s a well accepted fact” and then make a whole lone of assumptions.
Inaccurate. African birthdates are declining, 2 to 3 kids is now the norm, huge decrease in growth rates. So Africa population has already started population growth rate decline. More so in cities but it is increasingly widespread.
Also Africa is massively underpopulated compared to Europe.
Informative article about culture differences concerning the thoughts and the way thought (thinking) is done by others outside the West. The article leaves out the God of creation of all mankind that does call us to honor and respect others. The article does expose the West or evil men who hide or conceal the world outside the West but does not speak of the fear of the CCP of Christianity and what is being done to suppress it. Yes it is difficult to understand Chinese culture but it is caused by the work of mankind on both sides of East and West. Simply they want everyone to get along as long as it is done THEIR way.
Old Timer. I think China has reason as many NGOs and Churches (Catholic, Falun Gung a.o.) also are cover for Intelligence gathering and interfering.
The Christian Churches I hear about are maybe banned but left in peace if they are clean.
I must say I had a couple of laughs reading this article. Whenever someone touts the superiority of one race, I smile. Thanks God there has been enough miscigenation among all races on Earth to more or less make us equal to each other.
I also ended reading the article expecting to have an idea of what Google is preventing us to know from CASS.
I hope Yandex or another non-western search engine can help.
FWIW: I don’t subscribe to ‘race theory’ myself.
The author is not “touting” the Chinese race. It is not about race at all, especially since Chinese culture encompasses hundreds if not thousands of ‘races’. A culture evolved over thousands of years. This results in modern China, which, by the way, is not exclusively Eastern, as the thought of Karl Marx is very strong in China today as are other aspects of Western technology, science, and mathematics. China incorporates all.
” the biological ancestral Chinese stock lived in the Yellow River basin around 9000 years ago, and expanded from there. The “East-Asians” today are the most extreme outliers in cognitive abilities; in general they have lighter bodies and larger brains.”
This is a race based theory. As is this; “The Western people are depleted; they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago”.
Civilisation is learnt behaviour and it is un-natural behaviour as people are really evolved to live as hunter-gatherers.
Johnny Conspiranoid: “This is a race based theory. As is . . . . . . . ”
Spot-on JC.
I don’t understand why Tedder couldn’t see/comprehend the on-screen text.
Instead of making an effort to understand the Chinese mind,
it has been far easier thus far for many Westerners to say:
— Chinese are inscrutable; or
— Chinese are bad at imagination; or
— Chinese steal Western hi-tech; or
— Chinese eat dog….
that last still being said today in New Zealand by — wait for it —
primary school boys.
Dog is served in central China. It’s actually pretty good, particularly when consumed with ‘3 snake wine.’ I guess at least the snakes died happy.
I spend a lot of time there, when in China and all that ….
I rest my case…again!
Guess they died happy? Do they beat the dogs while alive to tenderize the meat as is done in some other Asian countries? Disgusting practice, relayed to me by an Asian, as the best way to prepare dog meat. It’s also done to other animals especially chickens. If one wants to eat any animal meat, kill it humanely. Don’t bruise it to death.
Cheers M
Oh dear, the SNAKES died happy, drowned in a bottle of alcohol. Rather like an Irishman in a barrel of whiskey.
Get a grip people, nobody has any right to apply your cultural values to another far older culture.
Irish historical beginnings go back further than St Patrick, a 5th century non Irish person. His kind saved European culture while mainland Europe burned from Eastern invaders after the fall of Rome. Snakes just aren’t native to Ireland, humans can just about stick the rain and cold there. If there ever were snakes there, they would have been as slow as a Dodo, and fated as such.
Try Newgrange, over 5000 years old. The end of the last Ice Age caused the flooding of thousands of sq miles of Irish territory.
Get an education, Irish history goes back a lot further than your limited knowledge does.
And, pig is served in so-called West…and, the westerners don’t wash their anus after toilet…hmmm…
It would be hypocritical to condemn the eating of one kind of animal while accepting the eating of another.
FWIW: I’m vegan . . . . . less suffering that way.
Thorsten, you have taken your argument a step too far. I agree with much of your thesis but be VERY careful about denying humanity to a people. ANY people. That step places you a whisker away from the next genocide. The “unpeopled” people are the ones who suddenly have no “Human Rights” as they are declared no longer legally Human. This is precisely the attitude of Azov Nazis against all things Slav, or Israeli State Fascist (lawn-mowers) against Palestinians – please do not sink to their moronic and depraved mindset.
Our incarnate consciousness, manifest through the dance of DNA codons and their harmonics unites us all, however we also carry the commom imprint of our evolutionary biology and that includes the drive to Xenophobia via the tribalism that helped proto-humanity to survive, just as it allows hyenas to thrive today.
We need to evolve beyond this tendency or we will soon vanish from the biosphere. Nature is replete with such failed experiments. Humans need to embrace their Humanity, and rise above their destructive Animal imprints.
Western people are in fact fully capable of learning Chinese language and culture – including the genuine, original culture but even the people of China are divorced from the depths of their own cultural heritage, which they came to view as irrational and embarrassing pseudo-science. This attitude is softening and grandparents are still teaching their children some of the old traditions, so hopefully the amazing cultural richness that is China will live on.
Learning anything that takes 10 years of hard study and application but is not going to put food on the table is a difficult prospect for anyone without a passionate (almost irrational) drive to master it – be that some culturally “normal” activity like playing a musical instrument or delving into the abstractions of Mao Shan Daoism, or Classical Vietnamese… or Chinese Metaphysics as applied to the timely movement of battle formations.
There are no Exceptional or Superior Peoples – only people. When leaders stake claims to such exceptionality and superiority they declare themselves fundamentally enemies of ALL people, everywhere. They behave like a virus from outer space and suck the life out of eveything they touch. It is hard not to use terms like Evil in this regard. Nature is asking Humanity a question, and the penalty for the wrong answer is terminal.
We could remember what all Midwives know that each of us are born unique. Same with animals and plants, each single one have their own personality.
But, White Man’s burden is heavy and centuries old and not an easy one to get rid of. Rome was hanging on for 800 years and still today we suffer from their Empire and Venetian cultural evil.
“Western people are in fact fully capable of learning Chinese language and culture..”
Well, they cannot, because they have to be born again as Chinese…😏
What are the differences between the West and East ? In a number of instances not much they both have corruption, both have state censorship and an Elite who effectively dictate to the masses. Moreover, there is much more to the relationship between West and East of growing animosity, mostly instigated by the West.
James Corbett explores in depth.
https://www.corbettreport.com/china-and-the-new-world-order-transcript/
The West educated for an apocalyptic end lacks a sense of humanity because it believes that it is condemned by its gods.
The Chinese Academy of Social Science or CASS.
“You have never heard of it. You can never find it on Google, in the Western media, or wherever you think information should be available to you – it is not.”
Google must be censoring the Japanese internet users heavily for Thorsten to say that.
There’s dozens of references to CASS when I did a google search. Here’s two main sites.
https://www.ucass.edu.cn/en/About/UCASS_at_a_Glance.htm
http://casseng.cssn.cn/
Preposterous waffle. No explanations, examples, evidence. Intellectual masturbation. I live in the “East” , speak Chinese and Thai, and talk to all sorts daily. They would laugh at this nonsense.
I didn’t get the impression there was any “intellectual” weight to the text.
“The Western people are depleted; they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago.”
Firstly, what does he mean by “Western”? A certain country called the USA took it upon themselves to start “absorbing” Africans by force…which didn’t set their civilization back but rather provided a source of cheap labour. Then they started doling out rights in fits and starts, the vote didn’t come until as recently as 1964 for all the “absorbed” Africans so they have a lot of catching up to do. And with the abolition of slavery, it’s now far easier to throw people into the prison industrial complex for cheap labour. It’s one thing to come over as a voluntary immigrant and do well, but there’s a whole different sort of baggage if your ancestors were brought over as slaves.
If on the other hand, by “Western” one means Europe, then perhaps the corporations based in that continent may want to keep their hands off African resources…and stop sending military forces to guard the resource projects through which they are exploiting Africans. And of course if any African leader ever dares to stand up to said corporations, they will be quickly assassinated.
Maybe the author is trying to say that North America will genetically turn into South America. South America had 10x more African Slaves and harsher plantations. We will all turn into AOC self-loathing slave/slave-owner hybrids and destroy our civilization.
Interesting opinion. Though without some sort of evidence it falls down a bit.
IMO everyone on the planet is basically the same: biologically and intelligence wise. There are obvious differing physical characteristics such as skin colour and skeletal makeup. There are also cultural differences but these are imposed/learned from birth they are not in the DNA.
Mankind today is no different to mankind 10,000 years ago – evolutional differences generally take millions of years to emerge.
If ‘we’ were to move from an competitive, western, philosophy to a more, eastern, collaborative philosophy then maybe a lot of the cultural differences would merge and disappear ? China has a lot to teach the west but the west needs to want to learn.
Chinese government is too large for human dignity to emerge. I once had one dog that was a real companion. She had puppies, we kept two, adopted two more strays… 5 dogs are not companions. 5 dogs is a horde. China trying to govern 1.5 billion people is absurd, as is USA with 330 million. America’s population in 1776 was 2.5 million. Ancient Greece was 10 million. Sovereign governments should obey “Politics According to Group Size”.
Absurd and in parts, disgustingly blatantly racist. Is this satire?
If not, the ‘intellect’ behind this piece is very tiny.
To take just one example, countless Westerners speak and write Mandarin extremely well.
Many are quite aware of the wall of propaganda that exists between China and the West.
It is extremely pretentious for Pattberg (a superior Jew?) to think he talks for all Westerners.
The reason no ”goy” understand the Jew and his scriptures is because the Jew undermined and corrupted it.
I don’t believe that this author adds any positive contribution to the Saker site. This article is simply an opinion based diatribe against the collective west that is verging on racist.
I would encourage the staff to cease publishing this chap, I will avoid future articles. For the record, I have written articles on China (from 2011):
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/12/09/the-incarnations-of-china/
I’m always amazed when someone takes it upon themselves to presume to censor someone else’s site.
I’ve read quite a few of this author’s articles and often find them exceedingly odd, provocative and even shocking. But I also find them interesting; a distinctive signature.
Too many Americans like me have ever really had a chance to travel extensively at leisure outside of the bounds of their own continent or even within it.Things started to change in the 60s I think, but then shut down very fast. The iron rule of mind and body by group think and by sheer poverty in the waste of plenty can make one scream. So when I read articles from outside my box that verge on scream, or outrage, as I would call it, I don’t expect an objective rendition. The one thing that was never allowed in my privileged upbringing was expression of intense negative attitude. Call it Attitude. I allow for Attitude without censorship.
The author referenced hardly suffers from my limits as ‘American,’ but he certainly has Attitude.
Attempts to legislate such, only stoke the powder keg. American poverty in the waste of plenty is creating variations of outrage around the world. Mine is lifelong and still cooking.
I have an opinion, and freely expressed it. The Saker staff can choose to accept my recommendation or not, that is freedom. I will no longer read this authors works – as is my right.
What I do have is a foot in two worlds, being married to a Chinese national and myself of the western world. Both cultures have their collective strengths and weaknesses, I display a level of self sufficiency and autonomy that my wife envies, she displays a level of social cohesiveness within her friends and family network that I envy. We both choose to use the strength of each other to support those areas where we are weak.
This author merely attacks one culture without a balanced view – ergo – irrelevant, and worthless opinion to me. You of course are free to choose as you do – as are the blog hosts.
“Racism” is nothing less than the need to protect your cultural and genetic heritage by favoring it over others. The fact that people like you use it as a negative connotation shows how well the inversion and invasion of your society has worked.
How well has openness and liberal egalitarianism served the west so far? It’s a degraded mess on the verge of complete collapse. Bottom line “racism” must be the keystone of any society that wants to keep existing. China is very racist. This is why it has existed for thousands of years and can reconstitute itself even after collapse while Romans no longer exist. Racism is good. In fact it’s absolutely necessary for society.
Oh dear. So China has maintained culture by racism?
Not by population size, Han dominance, language laws, education, culture or borders. None of that.
Got it.
How do you think the Han maintained its population size, language laws, borders, and culture for thousands of years while others like the Romans were adulterated and destroyed over time? Hint it’s not Daoist magic.
It’s called racism, at the core of it the unshakable belief that your in group is preferable to the out group. Those that don’t practice it won’t have much of an in group left over time. Ask the native Americans.
The west is being overrun by migrants. You are now in the same place the Natives were when the colonists came. The correct action for the natives was to combine forces and drive them out but instead they fought amongst themselves until the colonists were too numerous to fight and then it was too late.
That sound familiar to you?
We know racism exists.
Do we have to encourage it?
I dont know about all the stuff in this article but I sure know I’ve stopped going into walmart. Those people on that fox news keep saying over and over China wants to destroy and murder us. So I’m thinking boy they, the Chinese, knkw we Americans shop at Wal-Mart buying products made in China so it would be perfect they, the Chinese, can then just get us as were going I or coming out of Wal-Mart.
I feel you stay away from Wal-Mart if you don’t want the Chinese to get you. Oh btw if you’re worried about getting take out from Chinese resturant thinking them Chinese will do the same us walking in or leaving dont worry about it tnat would be too obvious for them to get us doing that.
Don’t make fun I’m telling you. That large pompeo was on fox Sunday saying the Chinese are going to get us but the republicannos can stop them. So until those big talkers get in there take my advice and stay away from Wal-Mart.
Sorry to disappoint you, Pattberg. your 2nd paragraph is wrong. I googled “Chinese Academy of Social Sciences” and got 174 million hits.
Very interesting that the writer mentions the war criminal Henry Kissinger. Ironically enough, it was through a book of his On China, that I started to develop a huge interest, respect and admiration towards Chinese history and culture.
How is a German writer able to understand Chinese thought?
If Chinese have such vastly superior intelligence, I would think they would be better able to explain their thinking than a German.
Utter nonsense.
In relation to this individual’s writings, I wouldn’t understand why the Saker staff would posts such rants and diatribes. I find his academic credentials questionable. His articles about Japan didn’t inform anything new. It mostly berated the Japanese people.
I agree. At first, I thought some of his articles were interesting. However, his recent posts are simply cranky rants. I, too, hope the Saker team will reconsider this man’s suitability to post.
West wants to invade and conquer China, *checks notes* by having Russia invade towards the West? Insightful, thanks.
Santiago-ich meine die NATO ist Richtung Osten marschiert und nicht Russland Richtung Westen.Da liegt wohl ein Mißverständnis vor-meinen Sie nicht?
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Santiago-I Mine The NATO is marching towards the east and not Russia towards the west. Is it probably a misunderstanding.
Ja,ist doch so oder etwa nicht?Wer wollte keinen Zentimeter die Nato Richtung Osten gehen?Das war doch das Versprechen des Westens (NATO) und nun stehen sie an der russischen Grenze.Für mich eine klare Sicht !
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Google-translate from mod:
Yes, is it like that or not? Who did not want to go to the centimeter of NATO? That was the promise of the West (NATO) and now they stand on the Russian border. For me a clear view!
“Who intended for NATO to go no centimeter in the direction of the east?” I think is a more accurate translation of the second sentence.
Do not be deceived. The Christ you speak of was never a real person. He is a mind control device created by the Jews to subjugate the Europeans to the Jews , in the adsence of military power. It worked so well that even now, Westerners cannot admit the truth right before their eyes. The Sermon on the Mount, turn the other cheek, love your enemies, hate your own family, all of it is cognitive dissonance, a complete mind rape of Western man by the Jews. China cannot comprehend the West because the West is literally insane.
For Western peoples to be free of mind, yes they do need to scuttle Jewish mind control. To worship another group’s god is to be conquered. But, there are some nuances… Hypermaterialism is a false god. Atheism is a barrier to understanding metaphysics. Jesus of the Dead Sea Scrolls was an Essene and maybe not even Hebrew. Euro-Jews are not Hebrews, but have hijacked the minds of Hebrews and goy-cattle. If you are looking for answers, I recommend looking into reincarnation and metaphysics.
Wow, a real honest to goodness Nazi. If Christ is false, then I do not want to be true. But, He isn’t, and I pray that when you go before the Terrible Judge, you will not be held to account for what you wrote today.
As for the article, and the author of the article, he accurately reflects the thinking of his host country.
Actually, I am Christian. But my Christ pre-dates the Roman Catholic Church. To get there, one first has to dig past thousands of years of lies about Christianity. As for your church – Why are they silent about the CIA and Israel on 911? They have made you into a beautiful golden retriever. My Christianity has sovereign men.
I’m Orthodox Christian, and my comment was directed to ” Chuck” and to the writer of this essay, not to you.
I disagree Chuck.
Christ Jesus was a joint incarnation by Christ Michael Aton (the God of this universe) and Esu Immanuel Kumara, one of his highly evolved sons.
The ideas you cite are distortions of Christ Jesus’s divine revelations.
The West isn’t insane but the Khazarian Mafia probably are.
Religion is a very private and sensitive subject.
But it is important to understand no one alive today was alive in Christ’s time, that the Bible was not written by him but 70 years after his death and no one knows anything about his parents
Truth is Mary was not a virgin but one could not say that in those days as pregnancy before marriage had harsh consequences.
Jesus was clearly a very inspiring person. But we only have second hand information about him.
That he died for everyone’s sins is a very loose translation. That he died at the hands of sinners and in place of a sinner is accurate.
However religion like love is often emotional not logical
To me Christ is neither God nor Gods son nor a virgin born but a great historical figure who it is worth studying
God in the eastern sense as an all prevading force , in creation and outside, not a being but a one force, is more logical.
But my grandmother would not like me to say so.
To each their own.
Truth Seeker, precisely bc disciples/ followers in Jesus’ day would all go to their graves that Jesus’ teachings were committed to paper, subsequently compiled into what is the New Testament (NT) today. After Jesus’ final directive to his people before his ascension was for them to go and “make disciples of all nations/ people.” We are to teach them to obey all that he had taught them. It follows from the reality of Jesus’ life and death: he lived in humility in obedience to God, the Father! Jesus is the first born into God’s kingdom/ family. So what did he teach? They are found in his sayings and teachings in the NT – mostly utterances that go against the teachings and practices of the religious leaders of his day – yes, the contents or man’s interpretation in the Talmud. Some of Jesus’ teachings are in the form of parables, which were not understood even by his own disciples w/o his explanation. In essence Jesus implied there and then that the truth or things of God are elusive to those who are really not interested in the things of God.
So interestingly, the apostle Paul also affirmed that the things of God are spiritually discerned or accessed, ie, it is the revelation of God that truth is transmitted, received, and understood. It follows that even if/ when there are distortions and falsification of scriptures or from the pulpit – God’s truth cannot be subverted for the disciples. The things of God would remain elusive to those who are not genuine/ earnest truth seekers, which the bible is clear on this point.
Does Jesus’ death for all sinners imply universal salvation for all? It could if all were seeking truth, believe in the God of Jesus Christ wholeheartedly, and live a life in awe and fear of the Almighty! But that’s not the reality ever. It takes two hands to clap, we say. Jesus is the offer to all man for redemption and salvation, and man must be willing/ want to receive that pardon and new lease in life under the Lordship of Christ. Not all are willing or believe or are able/free to take that step towards God. It is a paradoxical reality. Jesus, born of the Spirit in the flesh was not believed, nor understood, nor accepted even by his own people. Unbelieving/unwilling man remains spiritually blind. Is it something to do w/man’s arrogance? Could it be that they want a different world order?
Jesus’ teachings and his life as recorded in the New Testament are profoundly enlightening, inspiring, and subversive. It went against the teachings of the religious establishment of his day, which is in essence man’s teachings in form but contrary to the spirit and truth/ revelation of God. To those who believe God’s truth has a distinct quality to it that cannot be missed or dismissed by his believers or truth seekers. The whole plank/ foundation of Christianity is established on the person, life, death, resurrection, ascension, and promised future return of Christ. To claim that “Jesus of not a real person” is to rubbish and nullify the reality, impact, and significance of the redemptive work of God that is evident to many who have persevered despite challenges, ridicule, rejection, and persecution for their belief in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. No one can remain indifferent or unaffected when God has shown himself through his truth and power. Your denial is your loss.
Admittedly the secular, European, or Talmudic Jews may distort or uphold a teaching or practice of scripture that does not comport w/God’s reality and truth that only undermines those Jews themselves. To them God’s truth remains beyond reach and comprehension. We see that in their actions not just in Palestine, but also in Lebanon, Syria et al. There is no understanding of God in their ruthless action, only arrogance, self- preservation and interests. We say that they do not know God bc if they do they would exhibit the fear of God, and/or a humility that is not even palpable. In the final analysis and judgement day, I fear that this is what they will hear from Jesus: “Get away from me you wicked servant. I know you not!”
So, deny not the Lord God Jesus, who is truth personified.
The writer is a dumbass. As simple search of Google Scholar shows over 3 million hits for “Chinese Academy of Social Science”. As for his first ‘difference’, well, what can you expect from Nazi racist ideology?
Why is the writer a dumbass? It may be yourself for not suspecting that the article is intended to make you think ! The Chinese were portrayed as being subhuman for a very long time by the West – never trusted & only used for cheap labour. All despite their incredible history. This article is a parody –but in a lot of respects true. What’s really interesting is teh howls from the peanut gallery about racism etc. Ha ha – good for a laugh but disappointing.
” So, at least since the last Western imperialism 500 years ago, China came to assume the role of the evil, feminine, and inductive part of humanity. This is the cosmic balance we humans have no say in, but must make the best of our situation.”
Surely if this cosmic balance is because of something humans did 500 years ago the humans have a say in it.
“they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago.”
The africans will bring their obvious talent and ingenuity to the west as long as the west offers higher wages but if the west collapses economically they will be better off in Africa which would be free to develop without the burden of western imperialism. They might have to absorb a lot of migrants from the west.
Absorbing non-Europeans does take more time to bring into our culture. I had a German-American girlfriend and her genius immigrant grandfather edited Webster’s English Dictionary. My wife is Vietnamese and her immigrant children… well the 4th or 5th generation in the USA would maybe be equivalent to a 2nd generation German.
I am a Chinese American that was raised in China who served in the US military.
I agree in some respects but I wholeheartedly disagree in many others. It is quite simple. Geography is destiny. In China my whole family grew up in a 600 sqft apartment. In America I currently live alone in a 2000 sqft house on 2 acres of land. I can do whatever I want. In China no such self-identity exist because you cannot do whatever you want, when you want. You are surrounded by others and you do not think as yourself as supreme over others. In China I wore a uniform since I was a child. In America they wear whatever they want in schools.
Neither is “better.” It is a folly to think the Chinese have some kind of mysterious ancient knowledge that Westerners cannot possess. Knowledge is free. Limits are illusions. No, a Chinese may not be able to teach Chinese to an American, and vice-versa. I am a fucking American. I am also Chinese. You will require people like me to bridge the gap, so it is not impossible. Many like me exist, although we are often unheard and seldom noticed.
Conflict is a natural pre-condition to co-existence. The Chinese side of me has no anxiety to the coming conflicts because co-existence and balance will come. Even when my Russian friends criticize the Chinese (why does Putin have to do most of the heavy-lifting, why does China continue to entertain the Western elites and power structures?) it does not bother me. China has and always will move at its own pace. Sometimes it will soar at lightning speed, other times it will seem to never move, or move little at all. Yes, Putin is taking the center stage now, that is fine. China has been dealing with the voracious west since before Russia has been a nation or a country. China watched the rest, like a petulant Child, grow from nothing more than tribes fighting over spits of land to the global superpower it is today. China was there before, China is there now, and China will be there after. It makes no difference who is the “main players” of today, for today is simply a temporary existence.
I have found the most effective way to “convert” Western people into accepting Chinese ways of thought is not ever to become intellectual or try to lecture or preach to them. The most effective way to surpass their mental barriers and defenses is to simply invite them into your home and cook them delicious Chinese food. Once you can do this a few times, any Western person I know (even currently serving military) will disregard their biases and enjoy my company as a person, therefore opening their mind and spirit to my ideas. This is true Sun Tzu. When you fight a Westerner, you must fight on their terms. Know thyself and know they enemy? They are, supposedly not intellectuals. They are voracious looters and plunders? Fine, then invite them to dinner, and prepare the alcohol.
«Geography is destiny. In China my whole family grew up in a 600 sqft apartment. In America I currently live alone in a 2000 sqft house on 2 acres of land.»
A 600sqft apartment is an unaffordable luxury for many people in many western european cities. In the UK in the south it would cost $400,000-$500,000 or a rent of $20,000 per year. Same in several USA successful cities. Conversely if one lives in an area with no jobs it is easy to live in a 2000sqft house.
« I can do whatever I want.»
Not so easily. More precisely most people won’t care what you do or about you, for good or bad.
«In China no such self-identity exist because you cannot do whatever you want, when you want. You are surrounded by others and you do not think as yourself as supreme over others.»
More than geography that’s because of history: in turbulent times it is easier to survive if one is part of a network of reciprocity, and being part of such a network requires accommodation to others. That applies also to many parts of Europe where upheavals and wars have happened regularly.
«In China I wore a uniform since I was a child. In America they wear whatever they want in schools.»
In many places in western Europe a school uniform is also mandatory, and in China it seems that often just means a jumpsuit with a given color scheme.
Russia isn’t the only one ‘doing the heavy lifting’. Russia is currently sorting out the Ukraine and is designated to demilitarise it and NATO/EU and to lead Europe into Eurasian unity.
China has sorted out over 1.4 billion Chinese and eliminated the Khazarian Mafia influence in China. China has also instigated Eurasian unification via the Belt and Road Initiative etc, and is supporting Russia in its integration of Europe into Eurasia.
The US under Trump did the heavy lifting by oversighting the removal of the head of the Khazarian Mafia snake in Venice, the Vatican and the UK.
All three plus their allies in many nations are finalising the freeing of this planet from demonic forces.
@ABC –excellent post -best I’ve read on this thread.
@ABC
Lovely thinking. Nice to hear.
Now this is a well written and informative piece.
The most bizarre thing about your admixture of laughably outdated eugenic theories and bargain barrel Jungianism is that you rationalize your support for China through it. Why not just become an actual Marxist and drop this left wing Jordan Peterson act?
I was born at the end of WW II. Circumstances resulted in a Chinese woman “taking care of me”, a person who was like a second mother. I could use chopsticks at age four and when I took up studying Chinese, I found the language easy. So, all this Western China-hating, China-bashing is foreign to me and I cannot abide it, viscerally. It feels like an attack on my mother.
I studied the Confucian Classics, Taoism, Buddhism, and so on, in Chinese. I know what the words mean.
In many ways, I feel like an ambassador for China in America, but sadly, this is not an easy task as American hate is so strong.
I don’t know about hate, but I do not appreciate spending scarce cash–being a working class person with limited resources–on crap that falls apart within months after I take it home, or even on the day of purchase. What finally convinced me to boycott all made in Chinese products whenever possible, was when a zipper I bought at Wally World for a grandchild’s costume I was making, broke when I took it out of the package. Grrr. Sorry, but I do not respect people who do not even try to do good work. Japanese manage to be some of the world’s best engineers and produce top quality products–I drove Japanese cars for years–with maybe a hundredth of the resources China can command.
Taiwan belongs to China and to nobody else…
Concisely put. I’m an American who’s lived in China for over16years now and I do speak the language but all of my cultural study has been in English language sources, which are many and growing. My wife of eleven years is Chinese and we speak Mandarin at home. I’m starting to understand Chinese in the threefold manner that you present but it’s not been at all intuitive for me. I compliment you for presenting the basis of differences well.
What do you mean that..’The Western people are depleted; they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago’…??
That has to be the most ignorant and patronising statement about Africans I’ve heard in recent times, being an African myself, and uttered by a German no less! Why would Africans have to be absorbed by the dying West at all? Does the author realise that educated Africans who have lived in the West working as professionals are actually migrating back to the continent in droves as we speak? Why? Because of the incredible economic opportunities available! These people are bringing back skills and professionalism required to develop the continent’s vast Agricultural potential (60% of the world’s arable land), huge mineral resources, Water, marine and forest resources, Health etc. Why would such people think of being ‘absorbed’ by the West at all? Ridiculous! Indeed, there is an inverse migration by Chinese and Indian investors to Africa with no intention of ever going back to their home countries. Hundreds of German pensioners from the authors home Country now live permanently in Kenya, my own Country. I doubt they intend to ever go back to cold Europe. The author should check his facts before uttering such demeaning and offensive comments.
My guess is that he is talking about forced migration via wars or other color revolutions.
Yes, at least I know about the migration back. It is good to see.
He claims that over 70% of Africa’s 1.4 billion people would need to be ‘absorbed’ by the West. That is very ignorant. Not every African Nation is ravaged by wars or poverty. Vast majority are ok.
I’m not sure how you can write anything about China these days without pointing out the fundamental difference between China and the West is that China has a Chartalist Monetary System and the West has a Fractional Reserve Monetary System. China has a Fractional Reserve System as well, China had to in order to join the WTO. China’s Treasury does still issue money directly into the economy without borrowing, that is how China has grown so much faster than the West.
«West has a Fractional Reserve Monetary System.»
That is a common hallucination: fractional reserve limits on lending were abolished decades ago, virtually all “western” banking systems have lending limits based on a (ever rising) multiple of (rather theoretical) capital, not reserves.
China glorifyng westerners …not sure if they are well paid or really believe in their propaganda “Chinese were able to build the most advanced civilization on the plane…”…give me a break!
If the West did evil things, that doesn’t automatically mean everybody who opposes them are angels. Or that the social credit system, greatly enhanced by the use of qrcodes is some morally superior invention of the Chinese social science
While it’s true that if you google “on China” you get lots of Kissinger, if you use a non-restrictive search engine (e.g. Yandex) and use the phrase “about China” (which is much less ambiguous) you will get much more interesting results.
What a weird and racist article, also Neolithic, Northern Africa has of Africa has been Bronze and Iron age for over 5000 years before the Europeans. The Sub-Saharan Africans didn’t even bother with the Bronze age stage, the skipped straight to the Iron age civilization nearly 2500 years ago, at-least get that right before spouting that kind on nonsense.
the article lacks on a important part regarding to comparability of different human nature and social cultures and it’s always the same, regardless who brings it up:
it is by far not the intelligence and science that defines the quality, wisdom, progressivity, efficiency and wealth of a culture.
in all my experiences i always found, that the most important thing that characterizes and in the end defines the success and wealth of a culture is: how it operats with evil:
– is it able to stop evil behaviour?
– what does it classify as evil, faults, weaknesses and incompliance or corruption, lies and robbery?
– does it support evil or not?
– is it even aware of evil or does it say, you have to be tolerant and respectful to all where the leaders say so?
– do their leaders try to reduce evil or support it?
– do they protect the victims of crimes or the criminals?
cultures that lack abilities, understanding, wisdom, sciences, intellect or instincts to recognize and avoid or stop evildoers, end sooner or later the same way as all others do, regardless of their IQ’s and Sciense-Scores.
My money is on nurture rather than nature. Hunting and gathering require more ‘intelligence’ than writing a book about evolution, or any other subject, especially if your hunting and gathering in somewhere like Tierra Del Fuego. So why would we take civilisation to be a sign of ‘intelligence’? The ‘uncontacted’ tribes you can read about on the internet could be people who’ve come into town, had a look around and decided it wasn’t for them, as some of the ‘Bushmen’ in Namibia are reported to be doing.
The rate this sanctions war is going people will be trying to go south into Mexico to find work, or crossing the Mediteranean into Libya in rubber boats.
I wonder if this kind of material is put up to associate anti-western opinions with racism.
Speaking as a lifelong Sinophile, this is a disgraceful, tendentious piece of execrable writing. Its sheer retarded nature cannot be properly plumbed in anything less than a dissertation. I will not waste my time any further. Shame on you!
When it comes to “understanding Chinese culture” I was very fortunate to have met a few foreign born Chines when I lived in NYC. They were recent arrivals. There command on the English language was very good. I treated them on an individual basis. I truly enjoyed hanging out with each one of them. It was a learning experience. They were very attentive, very polite and respectful. I did meet also a couple of ABC’s, not much of a difference, surprisingly enough. Only with the Taiwanese that I have met, it was different. They have this tendency of wanting to say something very negative about mainland China, even if I don’t ask about it. When I hear say something disparaging about the Chinese in mainland China, I would just look at them and say to myself, “What is wrong with this person berating his own culture”????
another goofy article pretending to be metaphysics but sounding a lot like a peterson rant about (or at least his misunderstanding of) jungian archetypes and “feminine vs masculine” and etc etc. throw in the typical biological determinism about “lighter bodies and bigger brains” for good measure. maybe measure some foreheads while you’re at it. the ignorant reference to “epigenetics” is also a red flag.
the true laugh riot is:
“The Semitic people for example have long realized that Hebrew thought cannot be taught to goys (non-Jews).”
it would take an entire article to parse every wrong word in that opinion but meh. i’ll just mention that plenty of judeophiles throughout history have converted to and/or dissected the “thought” of hebrews. “semitic” is an anachronism that belongs in the 19th century with the dumb euros who coined it. and if “hebrew thought” can’t be taught then it’s odd that they learned it from the babylonians and sumerians they poached most of their “thoughts” from several millennia ago.
the origins of christianity are as alien and incomprehensible to modern westerners (coming from the same small region of the world as judaism and likewise spread through oral tradition in now dead or obscure languages) yet no one is saying “non-christians will never understand the gospels”.
again: biological determinism. “jews are a homogeneous monolith with ‘chosen’ genes”. which, again, is the lynchpin of what i call “scum right” ideology.
What a load of racist rubbish.
Certainly Asia is different from the ‘;west’. But this is not a matter of ‘larger brains’ (laughable – intelligence is not linked to size of brain) or different ‘racial’ characteristics – if there is such a thing. It is not linked to ‘alien or ‘incomprehensible’ thinking. The main difference, for example between China and the west, is sociological. There is a greater emphasis (note: ’emphasis’ only) on group welfare in China as opposed to individual rights in the west. There are different attitudes to nature and society due to Buddhist, Confucian and Taoist philosophy which in many ways are grounded on ideas of respectfulness – as opposed to western (Jewish, Christian, and Moslem) monotheistic ‘god-fearing’ ideas which prioritise exploitative and selfish attitudes. But these Asian ideas or not ‘incomprehensible’ – this is an idea propagated by early 20th century sinologists who were shocked that anyone could have different ideas from their own. Asian ideas and philosophy can be understood by anyone with a reasonable education and the will to take some trouble.
That is all. To repeat there: is no such thing as ‘alien or ‘incomprehensible’ thinking – unless perhaps the inhabitants of another star eventually reach us.
So in short the chinese are another god’s choosen race to rule everybody.
Sorry the only advantage of the other group of choosen is that they are not that much.
This world cannot sustain so many greedy deitys….
Why cant these higher races just assed to goodhood and move on to a higher level of existence so that we normal people can just live our lives without them having fun to see the world burn….
How typically Chinese — and Ashkenazy Jewish — to write “In fact, [Western peoples] are now outside of humanity.”
Granted our soi-disant leaders are puerile and corrupt. Granted ⅔ of our fellow citizens are strung out on drugs, degenerate, obese, and/or thinking like children.
But “outside humanity?” Does the author really want to defend that remark? Ashkenazy Jews fronting US and Europe are in train of getting pummeled (Ukraine) for thinking like that. And, BTW, Martyanov has a few things to say about “social science.”
I neglected to invite the author’s attention to his countryman Lama Anagarika Govinda, with whom, in the early 1970s, I had a brief but improving correspondence regarding general ontological structure as expressed in human personality components and types.
Amazing writing. Thank you for posting this.
“they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans”… What is this guy smoking? if that’s a comment on the need for population growth to achieve some sort of economic growth, id direct him to some non Keynesian non samulsonian economics. only the tribe is pushing for more immigration.
“westerns cannot learn Chinese philosophy” … again, how do you arrive at this?
“the author is a German writer and cultural critic”, sure sounds like its writing from a Chinese persons perspective.
CASS is in the first 5 google search results.
the saker is a nice place to read different opinions but this article is pure nonsense.
This made it to the Saker?? It’s a decidedly racist screed claiming the genetic, epigenetic and cultural superiority of the Han Chinese in comparison to all others. It explicitly states that Africans are an inferior race that will cause the West to collapse.
What the hell are the editors up to here??
Is that with, or without, masks on?
I had no trouble finding information about the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences with an internet search – using Google and not using Google.
Geography, weather conditions, agriculture, cultural traditions all set a tone of “understanding” of other continents & their citizens values & priorities in day to day life. In other words: Without “living it”, there can be at best be an educated intellectual understanding. One could write this article in reverse, citing China as having no understanding or teaching regarding US culture and inheritance or it’s citizens today as easily. And equally, after 1000 years or more, China will not become Europeans. Regardless of how “Star Trekie” people may want a “global citizen” that possesses tolerance & understanding of all the continents & all the varying elements that make cultures unique to their regions, without stigmas & racism ( the US is hardly the only raciest nation state… guess what? A lot of Chinese are racist too), as a humanity, we seem to actually be getting farther and farther away from the Brotherhood theme. Frankly I find the brow beating of all nations, USA, China, Iran, Russia, North Korea etc. getting beyond the pale ridiculous & boring.
Another great provocative article from Thorsten. Thank you :)
The kind of thinking that leads to articles like this eventuate in https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEPoMNP0I
Very funny, and quite possibly, very true!
So, China has to lower its standards for weaker forms of intelligence.
The British thought that at the height of their Empire.
Even
I believe in the acceptance of personal responsibility, freedom of choice, and the British Empire, which took freedom and the rule of law to countries which would never have known it otherwise.
Margaret Thatcher.
The reason Russia and China have skin in the game is they now have leverage and many trials were made to get there. They will not get it using the old western conservative white man’s language
Greeting from CN!
Great article, though maybe there’re still some misunderstanding between us.
My friends, you can ask me any question about CN.
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If I stand on a Chinese hillside with my mouth open, will a roast duck fly in?
Huge Chinese cities with no pigeons; how did you accomplish this?
Huge Chinese cities with hardly any birds; where did they go?
How long has China been a cash-less society? I was the only one using paper money..
I find Thomas Cleary to be a good translator for Chinese philosophy.
«It is not like the Europeans will become Chinese next week.»
That is also deeply undesirable for the continuation of humanity: diversity of approaches around the world makes for greater resilience. There is for example a thesis that because Europe was fractured in (largish) nation states that pushed europeans to be competitive, while there was too much retrograde/conservative uniformity in the Qing empire (and in part in the Ming empire too).
«The Semitic people for example have long realized that Hebrew thought cannot be taught to goys (non-Jews).»
I guess our author may be thinking of this recent article:
https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/lost-in-hebrew-translation/
which plausibly claims that hebrew terms for theological and philosphical concepts are untranslatable from hebrew because those concepts don’t exist in european “christian” thinking so there are no equivalent terms, one must use periphrases.
That actually happened within christianity too: there have been many schisms and heresies and massacres and war because early christian theologians started to use greek philosophical terms for christian theology even if those terms were incompatible with it (e.g. the endless and vicious debates about christology, as to the person, nature, essence, substance of the christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoousion
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-metaphysics/
However with some effort it is possible to convey hebrew or chinese (or greek) conceptual categories into european languages, but it requires explaining where they are coming from and great skill.
Here is an interesting enlightening quote by a man who knows China quite well Stefan Verstappen:
Whereas other Chinese military texts such as Sun Zi’s The Art of War focus on military organization, leadership, and battlefield tactics, the Thirty-Six Strategies are more suitably applied in the fields of politics, diplomacy, and espionage. These proverbs describe not only battlefield strategies, but tactics used in psychological warfare to undermine both the enemy’s will to fight – and his sanity. Tactics such as the ‘double cross’, the ‘frame job’, and the ‘bait and switch’, can be traced back through thousands of years of Chinese history to such proverbs as ‘Hide the Dagger Behind a Smile’, ‘Kill With a Borrowed Sword’, and ‘Toss out a Brick to Attract Jade’ respectively. Though other Chinese military works of strategy have at least paid lip service to the Confucian notion of honour, the Thirty-Six Strategies make no pretense of being anything but ruthless.
For the western reader the Thirty-Six Strategies offers timeless insights into the workings of human nature under conditions of extreme stress. Many of the proverbs are based on events that occurred during China’s Warring States Era (403-221 BC). This was a time so infamous, that a later Emperor banned history books of that era on the grounds that they contained accounts of such a devious nature, they would morally corrupt all who read them. Many of those accounts are presented here along with the exploits of some of the orient’s greatest generals, kings, emperors, and shoguns. Over 118 anecdotes are included to both explain and offer examples of each strategy’s application. By learning from the old masters of the art of deception, one is better able
to spot the modern pretenders, for, though the players come and go, the game remains the same.
https://www.chinastrategies.com/the-thirty-six-strategies/
What can China learn from America? Muscles!
The Chinese have “lighter bodies and larger brains” but if you knock on the bowl they are filled with numbers and a sound like boiled rice.
US Henry Marshall of San Antonio, Texas performed 7,650 consecutive push-ups and was listed in the Guinness Book. The majority of push-up world champion holders are Americans.
US Arnold Schwarzenegger was selected as the worlds most handsome man with muscles.
The famous singers curvy Diana Ross and Marilyn Monroe wrote songs that they preferred US muscles.
The worlds most famous champions in heavy weight boxing are all Americans. Mike Tyson, Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier, m.m.
The famous US Marine Sylvester Stallone saved thousands of women and kids in the Afghan mountains and the Vietnamese jungle with his muscles and a machine gun alone!
Here in this area China could learn some real culture if they took a rest away from reading Confucius and picking their spoon in the rice bowl.
The irony, of course … I wonder how many Westerners are aware of this.
China’s ‘Erhardian Bargain’
“The English call it whacky economics, it is at odds with France’s economic philosophy of dirigisme and it has been accused of pushing the European Union into a monetary policy stalemate. Yet German ordo-liberalism may have much in common with contemporary economic policy in China.
The German Historical School of economic theory played a huge part in China’s choice of development trajectory and institutions during industrialization. The economic logic of China’s reform era model was part Friedrich List, part Alexander Hamilton and part Ludwig Erhard. In Germany, this economic logic would evolve to become ordo-liberalism.”
https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/05/16/chinas-erhardian-bargain/
[1] The wacky economics of Germany’s parallel universe
https://www.ft.com/content/e257ed96-6b2c-11e4-be68-00144feabdc0
[2] The EU as an evolving compromise between French dirigism and German ordoliberalism https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/02/04/the-eu-as-an-evolving-compromise-between-french-dirigism-and-german-ordoliberalism/
[3] The German Historical School :Toward the Integration of the Social Sciences
https://jshet.net/old/annals/het47-50/5001/ikeda5001.pdf
[4] Is China’s Reform Era Over? “Renewed state controls in politics and the economy may unravel the consensus that’s kept China stable for decades”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/28/china-reform-era-xi-jinping-new-normal/
[5] The Man Who Created the German Economic Miracle
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/man-who-created-german-economic-miracle
Recorded history (limited and distorted as it is) documents that Luciferian and other diabolical forces have always used the mantra “Let’s you and him (her) fight” as a means to divide and rule humanity on this planet. By doing that they hope to dominate and exploit humanity and the planet. Their efforts are finally failing.
To divide and conquer us they have lied about life, the universe and everything. In truth the differences we fight about are intrinsically superficial. Ensouled HUman beings are ALL children of the Creator, i.e. spirit beings endowed with individual personality, intellect (Mind) and free will, and hence we are ‘made in the image of God’ and destined to eventually become like God. That process is a very long one requiring myriad incarnations and progress depends upon how quickly we GROK the truth about life, the universe and everything.
Those wedded to the idea that this physical existence is all there is spend enormous effort and energy trying to deny the existence of spirit and hence the ONENESS of ALL that IS, including us.
In spiritual terms differences like skin colour, ethnic origins and ideological preferences are trivial. Spirits are fragments of the Creator destined to become ONE with each other and Creation.
Love is the fundamental energy that creates us and binds us together.
However, we are free will creatures (the result of the ultimate in creational acts) and hence we can choose to reject our spiritual heritage and some do.
Mr. Pattberg, please explain why sophisticated and advanced Chinese want to migrate to North America so badly that they are willing to manipulate, or ignore, our immigration laws?
“The Semitic people for example have long realized that Hebrew thought cannot be taught to goys (non-Jews). Non-Jews are given English or German translations of Jewish marching orders, and so on.”
Every new article by this author is more suspicious than the last. I was disturbed at first, but it’s getting to the point it’s almost comedic. Make no mistake, I’m the first to be resentful of the moral failure of western civilisation, but this degree of manicheism verge on the pathologic. And considering the direct involvment of zionism in the current decadent state of the western world, that specific passage was particularly ludicrous.
What’s harmonious about brutally tormenting an animal before killing it, so you can enjoy improved texture or whatever?
The British role in the creation of Maoism
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1992/eirv19n36-19920911/eirv19n36-19920911_048-the_british_role_in_the_creation.pdf
Some flavors of Chinese philosophy are thus seated in irrationalism.
In this sense, daoism is opposite confucianism as irrationalism is opposed to reason, though these two are frequently blended. But irrationalism is the difference that makes the difference.
The British are always behind irrational “mind virus” type belief systems, pushed through universities, like critical race theory and wokeness and cancel culture today. There are also ties to eugenics, and superiority through genes type arguments.
The Tavistock institute in London has been their planning and experimental psychological research center, where it gets blended with psychological strategy for maximum adherence power. It’s military-grade brainwashing applied to society, exemplified in recent history by gender bending and deviance programming.
Don’t use google! Duck duck go has a lot of entries: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Chinese+Academy+of+Social+Science&t=ipad&ia=about
So the question is: how to find info about things censored by google? Should we go back to libraries and hardcopy books? Are there other ways to bypass the censorship?
“We cannot teach Western people … Chinese technology. It is impossible.”
Do you have an example of Chinese technology, about which a Westerner cannot be taught?
This is a short and provocative piece which, at the very least, is written by someone with some first hand degree of knowledge (having received a degree from Beida). This is in contrast to the many responses from those who — from their reading or experience as midwives — expect Saker to an echo chamber of their own reactions.
It is to hardly to be expected that many Westerners have had the opportunity to live in another country/culture for any extended period of time, or to have engaged in commerce abroad, or to have any degree of mastery of a second language apart from that which they spoke as a child. For these individuals, commentary is necessarily about dietary habits, dress, smells — all of which they “know” only vicariously from pictures or reports of others.
This is as it is ought to be expected. As Schopenhauer wrote, the masses are really “blockheads” and posters at Saker are only a mild exception to his observation. Kudos to Saker for publishing these almost epigrammatic thoughts of Mr. Pattberg.
In order to understand this world, China and the rest included, it is important to begin with a true statement of Identity. There are 5 immutable identities in this world – the Asian identity , the European identity, the African identity and the New World identity. (N/S America) The 5th identity is the Islamic-Arab World identity. That is all a person needs to know.
There is no point in making a mysterious mountain out of a molehill in the case of Chinese people or any other people on this planet. Put bluntly, whoever you meet tomorrow will be black, white, Asian, Islamic-Arab or an American. Weird and exceptional identities are a small minority.
Danke für den Tipp, Thorsten. Meine Suchmaschine fands sofort, casseng.cssn.cn, weil naja die von dir erwähnte, bekannte Suchmaschine habe ich eh noch nie benutzt. Wozu auch? Was mich aber sehr erheitert hat, war daß ich zuletzt gleich in zwei oder drei Kommentaren Wu-wei als Ratschlag, was im Westen zu tun wäre, verwendet habe. Was ich aus meiner Laune heraus so schreibe. Mir taugts so, und der Westen und die Leute im Westen – eher kaum bis gar nicht. Also egal wie, ich find´s prima, die Agonie der Kolonialwarenhändler zu sehen, ein wahres Vergnügen! Hat ganz schön gedauert, die endlich auf die Schnauze fallen zu sehen, 500 Jahre + die 1000 verkorksten davor! Aber jetzt – ab nach China! Online halt…- en route.
Thank you for your insights on China! I find it difficult conveying knowledge of oriental culture, indeed even of understanding it myself! I think it has to be experienced first-hand, otherwise the entirety gets lost in the details, and appears as simple absurdity.
“ The Western people are depleted; they now have to absorb 1 billion Africans, which will set their civilization back to the neolithic age around 9000 years ago.”
What a complete load of racist ignorant nonsense in a fact free fairytale article that is the worst I have ever read on this blog. Joker.
You think Egypt, Mali, Ethiopia did not have great civilizations?
You think Morocco, Cape Town, Nairobi, Botswana, Namibia, Kigali, Mauritius are less developed than the West. I have lived in the West. Eastern Europe and dinky states like Malta, Gibraltar have nothing on African cities and innovation. Google images of the African cities above and educate your smaller than Chinese brain.
Mobile money transfer – invented in Kenya along with thousands of recent innovations.
Historically paper, glass, metals, open heart surgery all came from Africa. Who cultivated the coffee you drink and the chocolate you eat? Who created agricultural deltas?
Your ignorance is so pathetic it’s like a dead flower. Genetics eh?the entire human race is an African species. A giraffe in France does not become French. You are as African as anyone else so get off your high horse and bow to the motherland. Your ancestors are also buried here, no doubt dying again of shame.
There is a difference between “culture” and “civilisation”. While beating animals to pulp before slaughtering them may be part of a cultural tradition, it’s certainly anything but civilised. To my opinion, mankind expanded while adapting to different forms of nutrition. While the food source for hunters and gatherers (blood group 0) was limited, grain and cereals could be harvested and stored over a longer period, making it possible for farmers to thrive in larger numbers (provided they were able to digest it, like blood group A and B). Being able to get energy from more and different food sources was crucial for human expansion. When the digestive system adapted to the consumption of legumes, mankind became even able to perform hard labour like building the pyramids. Imho, culture is for large entities, like tribes or so-called nations; civilisation is only available for some happy few. 19th century Europe was a peak in human civilisation, with marvels in arts and crafts, science and literature abounding. That became possible not by a new food as source of energy, but by psycho-active drugs like tea, coffee and nicotine. They kept the labourer going and the intellectual on track.
That golden age was ended quite unnecessarily by the First World War, a conflict that had been brought about deliberately by Great Britain in order to destroy the emerging rival, Germany. I’m pretty sure that without a regular use of mind-altering drugs, this insane plot would not have been thought of by the people who held the destiny of the British Empire in their hands (not the royal family, obviously). The Western Civilisation is declining because of drug abuse. In the Victorian era it was the social élite who took to Opium (laudanum), like the fictional character of Sherlock Holmes. The twentieth century saw the rise of heroin and cocaine, while today we’re losing it on crack and crystal meth. The Western World is doomed because we have adapted to junk food that’s making us sick and to drugs that are turning us into zombies. Our culture has failed, and that’s a fact.