by Dr Eric Voegelin for the Saker Blog
The Hague Tribunal announced a few days ago that the former President of the Bosnian Serb entity, the Republic of Srpska, Dr Radovan Karadzic is due to be transferred to a British prison to serve the rest of his life sentence. Dr Karadzic was charged and predictably found guilty of a number of serious violations of international law during the war in Bosnia in the 1990s, genocide being at the top of the list, of course.
Karadzic’s objection to the decision was brushed aside by the secretive Tribunal (or “Mechanism” as it has renamed itself) without any cogent reasons being offered. Nor has it even been disclosed to which British prison it was decided to transfer him.
The concerns expressed by Karadzic and those who are alarmed over his safety are well-founded. In 2010, another Serbian prisoner from Bosnia, General Radislav Krstic, serving his sentence in Wakefield prison in the UK, was assaulted by three prisoners of the Muslim faith who tried to slash his throat and nearly succeeded. He was, however, rescued in time by the guards who heard his cries for help.
The fear that a similar fate might befall Karadzic is, therefore, quite reasonable. British prisons are swarming with Muslim inmates, some of whom hold very extremist views, and for them words such as “Serb,” “Bosnia,” and especially “Srebrenica,” are red flags. Another high profile Serbian prisoner sentenced by the Hague Tribunal, Mrs. Biljana Plavsic, a member of the Bosnian Serb Presidency, who was serving her sentence in a women’s prison in Sweden, was similarly assaulted on the same religious grounds.
True, a British court, in a dazzling display of British fair-play, subsequently did award Gen. Krstic the sum of about £ 50,000 for the unpleasant experience, but the gesture, noble as it may appear, does not resolve the fundamental issue. The host country has an obligation to ensure the personal safety of prisoners, whoever they are and whatever they may have been accused of, and they are also entitled to a treatment as humane as possible. That, at least, is the theoretical rule that prevails in civilized countries. Where an individual must stay locked in his cell 24 hours a day in order to be “safe” from other inmates, there is a serious problem and the host country’s safety obligation clearly is not being met.
The gist of the underlying issues was expressed by a keen young scholarly observer of the Balkan political scene: “Can you explain what their main motivation is for this? If they wanted to harm him, surely they would have done it by now. When this news came out the one thing I was dreading was the media response….with headlines such as ‘The Bosnian Butcher’ and ‘Serb Genocide’ all over the internet. I feel like it is only being done for this purpose; as an excuse to be able to bring up the ‘Bosnian genocide’ again. But then it begs the question, why now? Is there something brewing?”
Great questions, but it is difficult at the moment to offer satisfactory answers to most of them. To the question, “if they wanted to put Karadzic’s life in danger why are they doing it now when they had him in their custody at the Hague during many years?” a tentative answer may be offered. In the Milosevic trial, the prosecution case was by the time of death in 2006 in a state of complete disarray and they simply had to urgently get rid of the defendant to avoid a larger embarrassment in the judgement stage. In Dr Karadzic’s case, even assuming they entertained similar thoughts, the situation is a bit different. Repeating the same scenario twice in the Tribunal Detention Unit with another high profile defendant would have aroused too much suspicion. If they wish Karadzic harm, it is far more convenient to put him in a situation where other hands would do the job, and with “plausible” reasons – religious animosity. But it is not even certain that they explicitly wished Karadzic violently dead when they decided to transfer him to Britain. That would make him a martyr in Serbian eyes and could spoil the subversive political game they are playing in the Republic of Srpska, which so far is not going too badly for them.
As Freud correctly observed, sometimes a pipe is just a pipe, and we should not strain to read too many other things into it. The decision to move Karadzic to a country where he would be extremely vulnerable may not be indicative of a conscious homicidal intent to see him dead, as much as it might have been motivated simply by an excess of arrogance. They hate Karadzic intensely, they can send him to any place they choose where his life would continually be in danger and where serving his sentence would be extremely unpleasant, and that is precisely what they have chosen to do. If he survives until the natural end of his life, so be it; if he is killed before that, tough luck.
The comment quoted above correctly surmises that a pretext for bringing up the “Bosnian genocide” might explain some of the motivation behind Dr Karadzic’s transfer to an unsafe British prison. Any occasion to bring up the “genocide” issue is good, as far as they are concerned. So there is always a propaganda benefit in that, and it is never to be lightly thrown away.
A key question is raised in the comment: Is there something brewing? It is unfortunately impossible to answer that question at the moment. The Hague Tribunal is an extended political arm of the Atlanticist NATO system. Much has been brewing lately where NATO is concerned. Some of its recent initiatives have turned out to be failures, bluffs and empty threats, of course. But it is difficult for us regular people to enter fully into the inner workings of such great strategic minds. We must observe the situation as it develops and connect the dots as we go along.
One thing is certain, however. The verdict in Dr Karadzic’s trial is a complete sham. His defense was not as spectacular as Milosevic’s (Karadzic is a psychiatrist, and unlike Milosevic not a lawyer) but as an extremely intelligent person he caught on fast and acquired impressive legal skills along the way. In the end, the Tribunal’s judgment was reduced to the sort of drivel that a second-year law student would find laughable. That makes the system hating the man’s guts fully understandable. The flimsy evidence presented by the prosecution compared to the witnesses and documents the outgunned Karadzic was still able to marshal and submit in the courtroom in his own defense must have greatly irritated and embittered the powers that be. The unflattering juxtaposition of the prosecution and defense cases will have been noted in legal history and analytical comparisons will inevitably be made in the defendant’s favor, once passions cool and the present iron grip over public discourse loosens.
This much can be said. There is no doubt that they would enjoy seeing Karadzic suffer a grisly death before his time. If deliberately putting him in harm’s way would accelerate the process without making them look overtly culpable, then so be it.
belmarsh, just across from assange.
The dismembering of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Serbia by the west are the real crimes. The US played all the religious and nationalistic cards and encouraged war.
Yugoslavia disappeared in the US’ drive east to the Russian border.
I agree. All of the evidence which has come out over the last 20 years or so and the development of international regime practices over that same period pretty much casts serious doubt on the legality of the convictions. These men should probably be released, particularly in light of the certainty of western war crimes, led by aggressive war. I am sure that all European countries’ jails have a surplus of islamic fanatics, so moving him to another country, unless he is released to Serbia and looking the other way when he is immediately released, a way perhaps to avoid problems from the controlled media, a possible solution, would lead to the same problem. The overarching problem is that the 21st century litany of war crimes committed by the empire described as the “west” has eliminated the legitimacy of western based courts.
John
There was no genocide in Srebrenica. I am enclosing two links for articles written by Stephen Lendman,
the well known American analyst:
https://stephenlendman.org/2016/03/radovan-karadzics-sham-trial-and/
https://stephenlendman.org/2017/11/ratko-mladics-sham-trial-conviction/
Who brought Al-Qaida, USA´s “foreign legions” to Bosnia? Ask yourself this question & the answers will emerge, illuminating the Clinton Administration´s criminal endeavors, especially those hatched by Allbright & Holbrook, two disguised Zionists dressed with Saxon names.
I wonder if they will put Karadzic in the jail cell next to Assange. By the way, what ever happened to Assange?
waiting to see if the appeal goes through
The Appeal of the US government – still wanting him to be shipped to USA
The Scottish legal system has just sentenced Assange’s collaborator Craig Murray to prison for what was entirely fair and reasonable reporting on the trial of the pro-independence politician Alex Salmond. The charge against Murray was very far-fetched (allegedly enabling witnesses in the Salmond trial to be identitifed, when Murray had gone out of his way to avoid doing precisely this, and the mainstream Scottish media had gone much further in doing so without even being charged).
Murray had earlier publicly declared that he had picked up the data that Wikipleaks later published, and so there had been no hack of the Democrat National Committee servers. It really was a leak, as is Wikileaks’ consistent practice. The FBI has never even attempted to interview Murray about the matter that Assange is charged with. So Assange is completely innocent and the authorities also want to see Murray prison.
It should also be recalled that the trial of Abdul Basset Al-Meghrahi over the Lockerbie bombing was conducted by Scottish judges and the ‘guilty’ verdict surprised Scottish legal observers. There were storng political reasons to maintain this fiction too, and so when al-Mehgrahi was close to launching a well-founded appeal, he was released on compassionate grounds. His appeal was later dismissed.
With regard to Karadzic, it should not be fogotten that Tommy Robinson was once hastily imprisoned where he was subject to serious theats by extremist Muslim inmates as well. The idea that Karadjic could be killed in an English prison is by no means unikely. English prisons are already notoriously out of control.
One of his biggest supporters, who sat beside Assanges mother through the trial, Craig Murray was jailed in Scotland last week on spurious charges, he’s appealing.
Many here and abroad including Chomsky & Pilger are concerned.
Twenty-five years ago, NATO nations violated international law and committed war crimes by bombing Yugoslavia. This may be difficult for people who believe in the American world view to understand. More than 2,000 civilians were killed and wounded by NATO deliberately attacking “dual use” facilities, factories, power plants, TV stations, roads, bridges, and railways. They killed over 6,000 Yugoslav soldiers and police officers, and in the process, deliberately caused massive damage to non-military civilian infrastructure, all prohibited under international conventions.
What the American media and their government told us about the bombing of Serbia was false, a lie that the recently published book by Andy Wilcoxon documents and verifies with evidence. Wilcoxon provides evidence, from documents, court records, and witnesses that the bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with “humanitarian intervention,” but was used as a deception by the USA and her NATO allies to justify future wars of aggression in the Middle East, North Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America.
Professor Emeritus of Finance at the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, Edward S. Herman writes in Global Research that: [“the successful demonization of the Serbs, making them largely responsible for the Yugoslav wars, and as unique and genocidal killers, was one of the great propaganda triumphs of our era. It was done so quickly, with such uniformity and uncritical zeal in the mainstream Western media, that disinformation had (and still has, after almost two decades) a field day.]
The Mass Media, in the advanced capitalist countries are highly concentrated, Wilcoxon notes in his well-documented book “Joint Criminal Enterprise-why everything you were told about Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs is wrong.” The Mainstream Media is controlled by a few owners. It is especially true in the case of the USA where the media can saturate the public with views that deviate significantly from reality. Along this same line in the January 2005 issue of Monthly Review, writer Robert W. McChesney has a disturbing article on the power of propaganda in the USA:
[“The United States has witnessed the emergence of what is undoubtedly the most sophisticated propaganda system ever developed, making it possible for control of the media to translate into the power to sway large parts of the society. An understanding of this problem is crucial if one is to grasp the changes occurring in U.S. society today: from war to privatization to the suppression of human rights”. }
The founding fathers of present America recognized “high crimes and misdemeanors’ for others, but they ignored them when they committed them in self-interest. They spoke of lofty goals for the new republic, the rule of law, due process, and an independent judiciary, but ignored them when America and NATO invaded country after country. In two hundred and fifty years, nothing has changed: self-interest dominates American institutions at home and abroad.
The Nuremberg trial and the UN Charter govern rules of warfare. In the international system, born out of WWII, war is illegal except in very restricted cases like domestic terrorism and defense from external attack. States have no right to attack other states, not even on human rights abuse claims. This position is based on the understanding that there are no war crimes without war and that war always makes things worse
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If the Serbian or Yugoslav military officers were guilty of war crimes for defending their homeland, then the leaders and military officers of NATO from the US, Canada, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, UK, Denmark, Belgium, Norway, Holland, and Turkey are equally, if not more, war criminals and should have been prosecuted by the Hague Tribunal. The NATO action against Yugoslavia was a joint criminal enterprise unlike any other since WWII. However, as Wilkinson writes, the Hague Tribunal was used to justify the NATO war and at the same time, punish the victim. The war criminals went on to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Rwanda and to destabilize Eastern Europe and countries in Latin America using humanitarian intervention to sell their war crimes.
The grievous economic error committed by the Yugoslav government was the decision to borrow development capital from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank, since both institutions were effectively under the control of the USA, and had been since 1946. The monetary policies of these two institutions were used to destabilize the Yugoslav economy. The crisis caused by the IMF and the World Bank were used by Western nations and their media to blame Belgrade and the Serbs. This diabolical strategy of the US to undermine the economies of countries that deal with the IMF and World Bank caused the collapse of the Yugoslav economy with serious consequences as Wilkinson so well explains.
Andy Wilcoxon, in chapter after chapter, outlines how Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo violated the Yugoslav constitution and unilaterally declared their independence from Belgrade telling their people to use all means to solve their economic crisis. He points out how the Slovenian home guard killed JNA surrendering soldiers who refused to shoot on their countrymen; he points out how years of Croatian and Albanian terrorism, at home and abroad, was ignored, including the massacre in Gospic where Croatian Nazis went from house- to- house and took Serbian doctors, lawyers, and teachers and executed them.
The allegations against Milosevic over Bosnia and Croatia were cooked up in 2001, two years after an earlier indictment had been issued against him by the separate international criminal tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) at the height of NATO’s attack on Yugoslavia in 1999. Notwithstanding, the atrocities by the KLA, NATO claims that Serbia was pursuing genocide turned out to be war propaganda, so the ICTY prosecutor decided to bolster a weak case by trying to “get” Milosevic for Bosnia as well. It took two years and 300 witnesses, but the prosecution never managed to produce conclusive evidence against its star defendant, and its central case has now been conclusively blown out of the water exonerating Milosevich. in the so called “the trial of the century” after they killed him.
However, it is Yugoslavia, not Iraq or Afghanistan, that war proponents continue pointing to as a model for future wars, unless as Wilcoxon writes, we stop them. Wilcoxon provides ample evidence in some 250 pages of professionally written analysis how NATO and American political, economic, and military actions are sold by the Western Media as a force for good.
This Media force for good ignores the fact that any rebellion against American order and ultimatums will be met with sanctions; they will smash you into The Stone Age, starve your children, and say like Madeline Albright, Clinton’s Foreign Secretary, the “price was right.” They will use their military to invade you and bathe your land in blood and depleted uranium. In the end, their injustice will prevail. They will put you on trial in one of their tribunals and convict you by using manipulated evidence, place you in jail. and poison you as they did with Milosevic.
Wilcoxon, with nothing to gain, is not the only one to expose NATO’s criminal war against a nation that fought in two wars on our side. If as NATO apologists write, Milosevic and Serbia wanted to create greater Serbia, they ignore the fact that Serbia could have had whatever they wanted after WWI and after WWII as it was offered to them by their allies. The question which many ignore, including the Hague Trial, does not escape Wilcoxon. Why would Milosevich go into Bosnia or Croatia to cleanse Muslims and Croats when he did not touch any of them in Serbia? The only crime of Milosevic was his attempt to save the unity of socialist Yugoslavia, and therefore, they killed him.
In effect, many like Wilcoxon write what Milosevic tried to do was, first, to prevent the disintegration of Yugoslavia, and second as that disintegration occurred, to protect the Serb minorities in the new states and allow them either to remain in Yugoslavia or obtain autonomy in the new rump states. This view is supported by none other than Charles Boyd, former deputy commander of the U.S. European command who commented on the issue in 1995:
The popular image of this war in Bosnia is one of unrelenting Serb expansionism. Much of what the Croatians call ‘occupied territories’ is land that has been held by Serbs for more than three centuries. The same is true of most Serb land in Bosnia . . .. In short, the Serbs were not trying to conquer new territory, but merely to hold onto what was already theirs.
While U.S. leaders claim they want peace, Boyd concludes, they have encouraged a deepening of the war. At first, Milosevic tried to reason with the fanatic separatist leaders of Slovenia and Croatia saying that the people of the Balkans would be better off in a unified federated Yugoslav state which could eventually join the European Union. As independent, squabbling rump states, they would lose total control of their economies and be subject to unrestrained IMF control which would reduce them to what they were prior to WWI, servants of the Germans and Austrians.
Except for Slovenia, this is exactly what happened, so Milosevic was correct in his prediction. If Germany, Austria, and the Vatican had not encouraged and supported the separatist factions, the country may have stayed together, especially since the USA initially opposed the breakup of Yugoslavia. With the Lewinsky scandal swirling around Clinton, he used the Yugoslav crisis to divert attention from his sexual activity in the White House.
Wilcoxon explains how under the leadership of the United States, NATO intervened in the civil war in Yugoslavia, a war that the West had created, aided, and abetted. As soon as the bombing started in Bosnia, there was no further talk about dismantling NATO. On the contrary, the air strikes had given new life to the organization. Now the talk was of expansion and for new missions to be undertaken. NATO had a new purpose: one billion to destabilize Serbia, a billion to destabilize Georgia, over five billion to destabilize Ukraine, and we know millions were killed and billions spent in the Middle East.
In the Serbian Province of Kosovo, rebellion was fomented as we now know by the intelligence services of at least three of the NATO countries: the USA, Britain and Germany who supplied the terrorist organization, the KLA, the organization created by Ben Laden, with weapons and logistics. This provided the United States with the opportunity of employing NATO to bring down the Serbian leader, Slobodan Milosevic, who refused to privatize collective property. The United States used a fabricated and staged Racak Massacre to justify the bombing.
Using as an excuse that Serbs refused to sign the infamous Rambouillet Agreement which would have resulted in the occupation of Serbia and Kosovo going to Albania, NATO began to bomb Yugoslavia in March 1999. The bombing continued for 78 days until a peace treaty was brokered by the Russians and the United Nations. The US and NATO have violated that treaty by ignoring Resolution 1244 which stated that Kosovo remains part of Serbia.
The bombing of Serbia violated NATO’s First Article, a violation of the United Nations Charter, violated international law, and ignored all agreement signed by Yugoslavia as a founding member of UN. Ironically and shamefully, none of the democratic leaders of NATO member countries [except for Greece] challenged the US led bombing. When Madeline Albright, the United States Secretary of State, shortly before the bombing was informed by the British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cooke, that lawyers in his Ministry believed the bombing to be illegal if done without UN approval, she abruptly dismissed his concern by telling him to“get new lawyers!” The niceties of international law and the formalities of obtaining UN approval before intervening in the domestic affairs of a sovereign state were to be set aside in favor of, “conflict prevention,” of “crisis management,” and “crisis response operations.”
These buzzwords and demonization of a people and its leaders sold well in the West as it turned the original treaties into scraps of paper; however, nobody seems to care. We now have a “treaty on wheels” that can be used for whatever purposes the United States wants to use it. It can be wheeled out whenever it is convenient and used whenever it is awkward to obtain legislative authority to wage war. It is a sad situation and a dreadful indictment of today’s political leaders when it’s possible to mold international instruments and treaties that serve the interests of the Empire, while at the same time, blaming the victim for the criminal acts of the aggressor.
NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia will be regarded by future historians as the act that completely dismantled the international security framework so carefully crafted by democratic statesmen in the aftermath of two world wars and the advent of nuclear weapons. It will be marked as the point in history when other so-called democratic leaders acted dishonorably to set the clock back to the days prior to the Second World War when military might was the only criterion that counted in the conduct of international relations.
Wilcoxon and many others who champion peace over war, ask why was Milosevic placed on trial in the first place only to be “exonerated after he was murdered?” Wilcoxon writes, Milosevic was charged with aiding and abetting the conflict in a “joint criminal enterprise” for the purpose of creating a Greater Serbia. There is little evidence, as Wilcoxon documents, to support this and yet initially he was found guilty. This, of course, was a way NATO could absolve itself of its criminal responsibility for the illegal war.
Some Canadians legislator. lawyers and military officers say that his trial was frontier justice followed by a lynching. Noted Canadian criminal lawyer Edward Greenspan has condemned the trial of Yugoslavia´s deposed President Slobodan Milosevic as a “kangaroo court” and a “lynching.”
Wilcoxon’s thesis is supported by a well-known Canadians provincial politician, Ed Schreyer former Premier of Manitoba. He writes, “I have been taken in hook line and sinker by the lies of Lloyd Axworthy, the Liberal Foreign Minister under Chretien, and I am going to do something about it?”
Maj-Gen. Lewis Mackenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian Civil War of 1992. In the National Post, June 2004, he writes, “we bombed the wrong side.” One of Mackenzie’s officers, Sergeant Rollie Keith from Chilliwack, British Columbia, testified at Milosevic’s trial about the breadline and Markale markets massacres as Muslim Croat war crimes to garner western sympathy. This crime was also exposed by French general Philippe Morillon, and Indian general Satish Nambiar who served with the UN in Bosnia.
Professor Muendel, and many top lawyers from Osgoode Hall Law School and across Canada, launched criminal proceedings against NATO leadership for their criminal actions against Yugoslavia. Joseph Bissett, former ambassador to Yugoslavia, was dismissed by Axworthy for opposing and exposing NATO’s illegal war on Serbia.
The whole concept of an international court for war criminals is rife with folly and shame. Essentially, it´s winners whitewashing their criminality at the expense of their victims. When Wesley Clark, the US general in charge of the bombing, testified against Milosevich he fabricated evidence. In truth, he was more of a war criminal than Milosevic. Similarly, US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was bent on war against Serbia over Kosovo suggested, on KLA hearsay evidence orchestrated by Albanian Kosovars and William Walker, a US envoy in the region, that Milosevic was guilty of genocide.
Arbour, former Canadian Justice of the Supreme Court of Ontario, on instructions from Clinton’s Foreign Secretary, laid charges against Milosevic on this fabricated and invented evidence for which she was rewarded with a position at UN. Arbour cites the massacre at Racak in Kosovo in her indictment of Milosevic. Later, Racak turned out to be a fake massacre used to frame the Serbs.
Kosovo was an unnecessary war, and a fabricated war condemned by James Bissett, former Canadian ambassador to Yugoslavia and now chairman of the Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies. Reviled by Ottawa and dismissed as ambassador for his outspoken dissent, Bissett and others are dismayed that NATO, formed as a defensive alliance to protect Europe from Soviet aggression, became an interventionist force in a civil war that was no threat to other European countries. Bissett finds this both ironic and shameful. as he noted that the “bedrock of morality and high principle” on which NATO was formed has been eroded: “NATO has become just another tool of American foreign policy.”
The trial of Milosevic was an attempt to justify NATO´s actions in what is known as “Madeleine Albright’s war.” The reality of Milosevic´s trial is that the verdict of guilty was in before the trial began: only the sentence remained to be imposed, but rather than do that they killed him.
Mod/ Saker.
This ^^[above] is more an article in its own right, more than a mere comment.
Can it / perhaps it could be extracted and placed where it can be referenced more easily?
Thanks BeliVuk.
Was not a geopolitical junkie till 2004 when I discovered a website explaining Building 7 post 9/11.
It’s been a hellava trip down the rabbit hole since.
I still have much to learn about NATOs war on Serbia.
WW. Same for me 9/11 buildings around 2004 and then you slowly wake up.
dual use facilities. dont forget NATO bombing the chinese embassy as well
Thank you Beli Vuk.
Also, highly recommended Manifest Destiny: Democracy as cognitive dissonance by William Engdahl tells volumes on the war against Serbia.
Here is a very relevant excerpt:
On June 11, 1999, the Russian military rejected the Kremlin’s capitulation to the NATO bombing of Serbia and ordered Russian troops to seize the airport in Pristina, Kosovo. Yeltsin had lost control over his own military. This was the beginning of what would become a silent coup.
With little choice, Yeltsin’s administration agreed to require the foreign ministry to coordinate its activities with the military and security apparatus that Primakov had headed.
An Unknown Named Putin Takes Over
On August 10, 1999, Yeltsin fired Prime Minister Sergei Sephashin and replaced him with Vladimir Putin, an unknown former KGB officer who had spent the Cold War in Dresden in communist East Germany. Putin briefly had been head of the FSB and otherwise seemed to be a man with little prior political experience other than a short time as deputy mayor of St. Petersburg. Berezovsky, Gusinsky, and the other Yeltsin oligarchs believed they could “do business” with the novice Putin. They made a major error.
According to informed reports, Putin gave Yeltsin the ultimatum to resign or face serious consequences, an offer he apparently could not refuse. Yeltsin resigned on December 31, 1999, naming Prime Minister Vladimir Putin as acting president until the March 2000 elections. By then, the CIA and their undesirable NGOs had wreaked untold damage on Russia and the Russian people.
Engdahl, F. William. Manifest Destiny: Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance (p. 66). Kindle Edition.
You and other Serbs on this blog ALWAYS and very conveniently keep forgetting in your misfortune the role of your so called Russian brother. As your countryman I can assure you that if you stick with Russians as you unfortunately have done so far than there is no way that the future of the Serbian people will be any better and brighter than their past. After everything that had transpired in the 30 years I’m totally at loss understanding why Russia is still such a blind spot for you.
https://www.danas.rs/politika/uklanjanje-milosevica-podrzao-i-vladimir-putin/
https://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/1454827-deset-godina-otkako-je-putin-odlikovao-hrvate-za-antifasizam-srbe-nije-nikada-foto
Nidžo,
Please examine our history.
We were allies with UK & USA in WWII. We were allies with the French in WWI. We protected our jewish communities from the Nazis. Look how they repaid us. (Holbrook, Albright, Clarke, Bernard Kouchner etc.)
So actually, track record shows they are the unreliable, false allies.
As for events in the 1990s, Russia could not help herself back then, let alone help us.
If you and others are happy by “believing” what you say and by the apparent self deception, then let it be. Many a Serb used to (wrongly) believe that some of the western countries are Serbian friends (like French), but also many wrongly believed that the Russians are brothers. Nowadays, after our newest Golgotha, for us the picture should be quite clear: we have no true friends neither do we have any brothers (only the Greek people should be considered as mentally very close to us). So, now the question for us is who should we like more: the tsar Murat or Vuk Branković. Or, should we forget about “friends” and “brothers” altogether and strictly and pragmatically take care only of our own interests. The first link pertains to 2006, i.e. six years after the war, the second to the last year, 2020.
https://vidovdan.org/info/rusi-finansirali-referendum-odvajanja-crne-gore-od-srbije/
https://stanjestvari.com/2020/10/30/anja-filimonova-ambasador-ruske-federacije-odao-postu-organizatorima-masovnih-ubistava/
@Nidžo
The Western rape of Serbia/Yugoslavia was conditioned upon the contemporary misfortune of Russia being a hapless US colony. Don’t take us for fools. Most of us on this forum can very ably connect the dots, thank you.
Nidžo,
Regarding your links:
1st link: Putin’s “participation” in the removal of Milosevic involved offering him asylum should he choose to resign.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/10/08/the-regime-changers
2nd link: News from 6 years ago (?) Looks like fake too… Anyways, the Order of Alexander Nevsky was given to a Serbian leader (Vucic).
Nidzo you see I am not ashamed to tell you that my roots are Russian just like the roots of all, the SLAVS are Russian. You on the other hand are ashamed that your roots are Serbian and before that Russian just like the roots of all the Croats south of Split and all the Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina are Serbian. You rather be a Turk just like many of my former cousins who became Muslims in order to get a parcel of land to feed their family. Ivo Andric (Bridge on the River Drina” had no problem to shed his Catholicism when he discovered his Serbian roots or Emir Kusturica or even Mehmet Pasha Sokolovic all knew who they were unlike you who denies
who you are.
When I listened to Milosevic’s trial a tale of a conversation between Karadzic and Milosevic was played where Milosevic tell Karadzic you must do everything to stop the people from rising. Karadzic responds . “I will, but it is hopeless as Iset (Izebegovic) will not listen.
As for Srebrenica, maybe this letter will shed some light on that tragic place.
A view of the Balkans
AS A BRITISH SOLDIER WHO HAS SERVED widely in Bosnia for seven months now, I feel I must take issue with the nature of the reporting from this region [May 17]. In the case of the Muslim town of Sre¬brenica, your articles have been scath¬ing in denouncing the Bosnian Serbs and their shelling of the town. However, you have failed to address the question of where the Serbian population of Sre¬brenica was. The Serbs made up 30% of its prewar population. Early on in the conflict, they were forced out of their homes with whatever belongings they could carry and ordered to leave. As the Bosnian Serbs fled, Muslims fired wildly on men, women and children on the road. This story was told to British sol¬diers in Srebrenica by Muslims them¬selves and later by Bosnian Serbs. Earli¬er this year, Bosnian Muslims launched their offensive in eastern Bosnia, bomb¬ing Bosnian Serb villages, raping wom¬en and destroying livestock.
1 realize that this makes me sound like an apologist for the Bosnian Serbs. I know that what they are doing is terrible. But the press has a moral duty to report objectively. The media are creating a “Let’s do something’, let’s bomb the Serbs; let’s arm the Muslims” rhetoric that is very dangerous. We in Europe un¬derstand the Balkan chicanery and cun¬ning far better than Americans do. We do not want to see ourselves further em-broiled in a morass when there is no one side that is uniquely culpable. A British soldier sees the bodies of three Croat children who have had their throats cut by Muslim soldiers. Does he want to see those Muslims with bigger and better weapons? Please be more objective.
JR.Thornton. Interpreter
Sergeant. British Army
Vitez. Bosnia
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”Bissett and others are dismayed that NATO, formed as a defensive alliance to protect Europe from Soviet aggression, became an interventionist force in a civil war that was no threat to other European countries. Bissett finds this both ironic and shameful. as he noted that the ’bedrock of morality and high principle’ on which NATO was formed has been eroded: ’NATO has become just another tool of American foreign policy.’”
NATO’s credibility as a ”defensive organization” against ”Soviet aggression” is the same as that of the German Nazis on that very subject. And their shared fabrications about evil Serbia are also equally honest, sincere, and convincing </sarc off/. ”Bedrock of morality and high principle” — sounds promising. Too bad it ’eroded’ instantly never to be discovered again. Or was that bedrock maybe reluctantly sacrificed due to NATO’s needs of truly professional, experienced people as personified by Nazi Germany’s erstwhile Officer Corps which was welcomed en masse in 1955 a mere 6 years after the creation of NATO? It would also be quite interesting to know when NATO was not first and foremost just another tool of American Foreign policy.
Same strategy as Julian.
When oh When Oh Lord wilt Thy servants be served Righteousness ??
Crazy sham kangaroo court they have there in the Hague. Wtf is this ‘Bosnian genocide” they keep peddling?? Nothing of the sort happened.
If it’s “genocide” they seek to correct, tell them to take a peek at what has been going on throughout Palestine at the hands of the Israelis for the past 75 years. Someone also might suggest to them that, though the majority of the killing in Syria has perhaps been done in the name of religion, there have been several distinct ethnic groups killing to promote the cause of their own kind and to exterminate the others. Again, Israel has dirtied its hands in that conflict with its widespread bombing and killing of Iranians invited in to help Syria protect its turf from sundry Turks, Kurds, Jews, Salafist mercenaries and now invading American troops and “contractors” poaching the country’s oil. In fact, the Syrian conflict almost seems structured on the Yugoslavian model of national vivisection by NATO. Washington has long been under the delusion that it only dispenses what it spins to the international forum as “justice” but can never itself be judged, not even by its own mercurial standards.
It was Tony BLiar and Bill Clingon who started me digging into 20th century history. I wanted to know why, having defeated Nazi Germany, the EU$A was dropping more bombs on Belgrade than the Nazis had. My tunnel led me from the rape of Yugoslavia 1990 backwards in time to the Rape of the Afrikaaner Republics 1899 and the Rape of the Middle East 1914. And forwards to the Rape of Iraq, Libya, Somalia, and the present attempted rapes of Syria and Yemen. In every case the British were implicated, via financial interests in The City of London. Plutocrats in that square mile of London are the real rulers of Britain, not that Westminster talk shop upriver.
Well when this happened many of the
countries who later became victims
of the west did not care or even supported
these actions.
Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia in a rare case
of sharing interest were all
active in Bosnia with US “permission”.
The Left the Right and the Greens all had the one
moment where they all
had a common enemy in the new “Hitler”.
Even today many people who critisise the US
Wars in Iraq will state this as the one war where
the west “did the right thing”.
Not understanding that – like the article states
– the war against Yugoslavia
was a Door Opener for future wars.
Not sure if this is so in other countries but in Germany
everytime someone critisises Nato, Yugoslavia and the
stopping of the genocide there is used as evidence
“why we need Nato”
and why “insert new Hitler” must be
stopped before another #srebrenica happens.
This was the moment where they won every future
media war the moment when they for the first time
unified the media under one banner which is now
repeated every single time they need it.
I’m sure Ghadaffi did not think much of what
happened to Milosevic and so did Assad perhaps
on the base of religion even supported it.
And i am sure even now russians will be sure
that this can not happen to them while the US
is trying to find a way to make it happen.
The (((City of London))) does not represent British interests. It represents the interests of international finance. The COL has a representative in the UK Parliament empowered to veto legislation adversely affecting the COL. Even the Queen has receive permission to enter.
Perhaps this transfer means that the British want to “suicide” Dr Radovan Karadzic–or simply slow-torture him to death like they are doing to Julian Assange?
The British will of course bleat about how this transfer is perfectly innocuous and upholds their vaunted legal system, which is based on the Rule of Lies… I mean.. Rule of Law….
In general, this case is important in that it is the legacy of broader war of aggression that the Anglo Americans and Europeans waged against Serbia in the 1990s.
This war–touted as an example of Humanitarian Interventionist War–ominously foreshadows similar Humanitarian Wars (or the Responsibility to Protect doctrine) that these NATO war criminal nations have today aggressively pushed around the world from Libya to Syria and elsewhere.
The Dismemberment Of Yugoslavia 20 Years On
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/05/31/the-dismemberment-of-yugoslavia-20-years-on/
The Dismantling of Yugoslavia (Part I)
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/04/17/from-our-archives-the-dismantling-of-yugoslavia-part-i/
Twenty-two Years Ago: NATO’s War of Aggression against Yugoslavia: Who are the War Criminals?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-s-war-of-aggression-in-yugoslavia-who-are-the-war-criminals/2144
Nato is still commiting Intl. violations is Syria, iraq, Yemen since Yuhoslavia.
” … russians … ”
Tragedy of Serbs waked up Russians.
Yugoslavia in the 90’s was a kind of training-polygon-ground, (among the other things), for the later attack on Russian Federation. All important aspect of that planed future war were tested there – misinformation, propaganda, manipulating different ethnical groups in various ways to fight each other. Infiltrating internal politics by bribing politicians, political parties, intellectuals, journalist. Eliminating those who stood in the way. Testing weapons and tactics …
SFR Yugoslavia was ideal for that exercise – in many ways, it was a kind of miniature Soviet Union.
@Corto
Yes, the rape of Serbia/Yugoslavia was a wake up call which appreciably facilitated Putin’s ascension first to Prime Minister and shortly thereafter to the presidency. Conversely, Yugoslavia was the first European country (outside Russia) which fell victim to the the break-up of the USSR. As soon as the NATO crime syndicate had defeated the USSR, it embarked on a course of all-out global warmongering. Of course it goes without saying that there is a stable continuity of mayhem and murder by the Western imperialists, but it’s quite interesting to note that up to 1991, NATO hadn’t sanctioned any bombings — it was ”only” its individual leading members who were busy meting out imperial punishment against the Third World: the British in Malaysia and Kenya; the US in Korea and Latin America; the French in Indochina, North Africa, and the Pacific. It took the downfall of the USSR and Socialist Eastern Europe to unleash NATO’s collective bloodlust on a European country. The same can be said regarding the imperialists’ resolve in bringing back the working poor right into their affluent heartlands. The situation in Eastern Europe is even worse: complete deindustrialization and ensuing depopulation.
People in Jugoslavija have lived well, even if they were from proletarian masses. Many of them used to wear nice shirts and ties..now 3 decades later my generation Y wears only gay jeans and training suits..slaves of global hrematic system, manipulated, souless stupid sheeps who are waiting in long lines for new cell phone…
Maybe Karadzic’s friends, who are still around, will be able to take an hostage important enough to exchange for his freedom…
Plan A for Yugoslavia was to conquer it economically. Since our good old “friend” Tito left billions of unpaid debt to the Western financial cabal, they had a good excuse for “do this…or else” attitude towards our naive leadership.
By the way, I have no more illusions towards Tito, ultimately he was a POS to Serbian people and he did everything he could to sabotage us in the long run.
Plan A failed since Milošević did not want to pay Tito’s debts, nor did he want to take West’s ransom money for all of our national assets. Now, plan B was to cause a major civil war in Yugoslavia. Breakaway the Republics and weaken the strongest ethnic nation, Serbia.
So they did. Remember that Tito is who started all this. Don’t glorify him, ever.
Oh, Yugoslavia was economically conquered long before Milosevic. Probably in the sixties. Serbs, including said Karadzic, were extremely and profoundly Anglofilic and loved the USA with all their heart. But the West could not have cared less. The Serb question was and still is linked with the Jewish question in the ME. Namely, by supporting Muslims in Bosnia and Serbia”s Kosovo the Jewish neocons in the US were planning to show the Muslims in the ME how loving and caring they are towards Muslims in Serbia. To do that they invented and choreographed many so-called “genocides” of Muslims by Serb hand. Further investigations revealed that many high ranking officers, even heads of secured police were directly employed by the CIA (see Jovica Stanisic). One of the protagonists of the so-called Srebrenica genocide Drazen Erdemovic is a double agent, a Croat involved with some Serb paramilitary units operating in the area during the events there. Very shady person. His testimony was key to the false narrative. Also, the British special forces were active in the area too. Iran and Turkey were heavily involved too. Turkey had the second biggest number of sorties against the Serbs in the 1999 second only to the “great Sheitan” with who they happily worked.
How all that worked for the Jewish state we are seeing these days. Also, many head hoppers of the proto-ISIS the West supported against the Serbs were from Palestine, Libya, Syria, Turkey or SA.
Worth noting is the fact that bloodthirsty Italians, Germans or other civilians from the West were able to come to the Croatian side of the frontline and snipe the Serbs on the other side. Something similar is happening now to the Russians of the Donbas.
Karadžić was doomed the minute he was arrested. The “trial” was one for the history books. Noone expected any justice from the Hague.
Timing of the transfer is interesting, however, as it coincides with West’ s attempts to dismantle the Dayton Peace treaty which is preventing Bosnia from joining NATO and EU.
Russia has thrown it’s weight behind the Dayton treaty and Dodik the leader of the Bosnian Serbs has said that if Dayton is dismantled, the Bosnian Serbs will secede from the Bosnian Croats & Muslims.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bosnia-russia-peacedeal-idUSKBN28O2SC
Where can we transfer Tony Blair to?
What we are looking for:
1. A place where people turn a blind eye to ‘extraordinary rendition’ (after all, the UK/US outsourced that to quiet parts of Eastern Europe, didn’t they?), since Blair has only been convicted in the court of popular opinion, not a court with either a judge or a jury in it.
2. A country that doesn’t give a toss what the USA and the UK think about most things.
3. A country with a ferociously strict prison regimen.
4. A place that believes passionately in an ‘eye for an eye’.
I don’t think that the UK government will be issuing an ‘invitation to tender’ any time soon, although if I were Prime Minister, I would issue one on April 1st 2022.
the cause is policy civil juris justinian,city of london vatican sovereign
un conversion into civil citizen with human rights contracted to the bar temple
pirates
billions is made from death trust funds raided 1666 uk acts of parliament
standard m o
demonocracy
united colours of benetton
a plastic bankrupt world run by satanick bankers
yugoslavia worked success as it was in libya,iraq
the unidroit of the vatican the bar of london private law for pirates of the world
a man and a woman living flesh and blood under god
have to be processed converted into compliance citizen of the state
subject to colour of law called legal policy under contract
let us not forget camp bondsteel kosovo and it’s role in helmund poppy farm processing of
afghanixtan
an old english phrase loose lips sink ships
radovan has much to hide and a lot to fear
for zion cannot tolerate non compliance a man that wants to tell his story
the euro poisons have not worked so blighty gets to test some novi chock of the porton down variety
Mean while 2 of the biggest war criminals on the planet in Tony Blair and his piece of sh*t mate Bill Clinton walk around Scott free.
Contrary to Western propaganda which has forgotten the 1990s Balkans War down the Orwellian MemoryHole, the American/Western destruction of Yugoslavia was a world historical crime, which is absolutely pertinent today.
This war established the template by which subsequent “human rights” wars have been fought such as Libya and Syria, among others.
It was in the Balkans and former Yugoslavia that the USA and West sponsored and supported the Islamicist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which harkens back to their support of Usama Bin Laden in Afghanistan during the Cold War and foreshadows their support of Al-Queda or ISIS-connected affiliates in Libya (the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) or Syria (Al-Nusra Front or Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham).
Indeed, during the 2011 NATO aggression Libya, NATO effectively functioned as Al-Queda’s air force no less: “According to the Ottawa Citizen’s David Pugliese, some Canadian military officers in private refer ‘to the NATO jets bombing Gadhafi’s troops as ‘al-Qaeda’s air force’.”
Al-Qaeda’s Air Force
https://gowans.blog/2012/02/20/al-qaedas-air-force/
With regards to Syria, a former US diplomat James Jeffrey has openly praised Al-Queda as a US asset.
Former hostage responds to top diplomat calling Al Qaeda a US ‘asset’ in Syria
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/11/former-hostage-responds-to-top-diplomat-calling-al-qaeda-a-us-asset-in-syria/
Moreover, this war is the template by which the Anglo-Americans and Europeans will seek to disremember and destroy Eurasian nations firstly through their War on Terrorism and now their current Hybrid World War (or New Cold War).
NATO Buildup in the Balkans: Part of a Deadly Game
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/farish.htm
Why Washington Wants Afghanistan
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/afghan.htm
Even Serbian films today cannot escape from the American and Western media hate machine.
Serbian WWII film smeared by war propagandists in Western media
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2021/05/19/serbian-wwii-film-smeared-by-war-propagandists-in-western-media/
Also, a quick quiz.
Who made the following statements during the NATO/USA war on Serbia: “We should go to Belgrade and have a Japanese-German style occupation of that country”, “Serbs are illiterate degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists” and “all Serbs should be placed in Nazi-style concentration camps”?
Answer: Joe Biden.
As the article above notes: “The highway in Kosovo which leads to Camp Bondsteel, the U.S. army base occupying the NATO protectorate, is even named after the American president’s late son, Beau. Anti-Serb racism is normalized from the top down.”
Appreciation to my father who shared with me on the topic of this blog,
this blog is in fact amazing.