I am writing this this because a person who has been a big part of this blog has not been here for almost three months, and has not given us much explanation for her absence.
KK – a person completely dedicated to the cause of Novorussyia. And a strong and educated moderator at Saker’s Blog,
KK gave in-depth, passionate comments on this blog concerning Novorussyia and its fighters.. Everyone came to view KK as an authority of the Novorussyian cause. She was listened to, argued with, criticized, and also appreciated, night after night, day after day. There really wasn’t a time when KK wasn’t here.
KK was immediately recognized as a seasoned, well informed and experienced moderator now taking up the cause of Saker’s blog. Generous and ready to give a commenter a chance and to help in any way, especially with amazing computer skills!
Right from the start, I thought KK was so cool. I guessed this moderator was one of the ‘guys’ from South Front. Perhaps this might even be ‘the voice’, now helping at Saker’s. As time would prove, KK wasn’t a man, and wasn’t ‘the voice’, but she did refer to South Front as ‘we’, because the cause of Novorussyia is a problem that unites people and makes them into volunteers.
Here in Moderation, when comments come in that are hostile, its actually very easy to send them to trash. It takes an objective calm attitude to go over all the many, sometimes complicated comments and not judge rapidly.
The people that wanted to try moderating, after Saker sent out his plea, were mostly trained by KK. Of course there have been people helping Saker with his blog since long before the ‘moderation’ even started. Gevorg for instance. But KK trained a huge share of the current moderators, including those that hopefully will come back.
When Saker’s blog got onto Facebook, there were so many comments of a (seemingly) hostile nature that I was just fuming about letting through “comments that didn’t deserve it.”
KK, on the other hand was always wanting to ‘convert’ the trolls, and spent many evenings writing replies to people who the readers here at Saker’s deemed trolls. They were defended as ‘newbies’.. I once said to her, ‘But they’re probably from the CIA !!??” KK doubted it, she thought it much more likely they were from FB.
We haven’t seen KK here at Saker’s now, for almost three months, so I wanted to write a tribute to her, to her deep knowledge and commitment to Novorussyia and Saker’s. To her interest in learning new things, which was clearly demonstrated by her time here.
I would like to ask KK to carry us still, in her strong warm heart, as she carried everyone.
Moderator A
Co-signed: V, T,
Note by the Saker: I want to add a few words of my own to this short tribute. First, I want to say that I miss KK. Not that our relations where always that smooth and easy. A couple of times KK felt like I deserved a tongue-lashing, and on one occasion I felt like she had gone too far with it. We then had what diplomats call a “frank exchange of views”. But guess what? Her main concern was “friends?” (of course we were!) and her last words were “I love you” (and the feeling was very mutual). KK was not always easy, but she was always kind and principled and, because of that, she has my infinite respect. I don’t know what happened to KK, but I do know that she had serious health problems. But wherever she is now, she has my love and gratitude and I wish her the best.
The Saker
I love her too and also consider her a friend, I remember her a lot and I miss terribly. The truth is that she was the soul of the moderators chat. A person not only very knowledgeable on the subject of Novorossiya, but in many others as well, such as aircraft accidents, a great conversationalist and a tireless worker in spite of her delicate condition and very affectionate.
Wherever she is, I also wish her the best.
As she was attached in a special way to two places in the world, I would like to dedicate her these two songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoOa3PzPg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42xkHtUUIZs
fabulous songs what language was the first ?
Hi Ann,
although it is sung as if it was some far-east language, it is in fact Hungarian:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1rta_Sebesty%C3%A9n
http://lyricstranslate.com/de/szerelem-love.html
I love this song if sung by Marta Sebestyen’s sweet voice (although I otherwise don’t understand a single word of Hungarian on their Highway, completely outlandish Finno-Ugric language).
But they have nice folks music, like almost all Eastern-European countries, if slavic or not.
Here is another one:
Ne szeressél kettőt-hármat – Sebestyén Márta & Muzsikás
(Do not love two or three)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKYahD8ylW4
This is so strange – Kat Kan has been on my mind this past week.
Had this post not appeared, I planned to ask about her either tonight or tomorrow. True story.
I totally agree with everything said here – she really was a vital part of the blog. In fact, I always thought of her as the Saker’s ‘other half’ in the information war declared on Russia.
I really miss her too, especially learning from her. She was an absolute mine of info, and had a brilliant logical and analytic mind.
I did not know she was ill – I so hope Ann is right. When I queried her whereabouts a month ago, she said that KK would be back: it really has been too long.
KK – if you are reading this, could you please let us know you are still alive ( if not up to kicking?)
Your blog needs you.
Please get well soon if you are not well at the mo, my deepest regards and affection,
Eimar
I think KK passed away recently [somewhere last week].
I didn’t know whether s/he was a man or a woman, becasue, frankly, I don’t care.
S/he had my respect and s/he will always have that.
The story s/he shared about his/her mother and the smuggling of salt during the German occupation, will live on for ever in my mind, as will her legacy of being an exceptional human being.
That’s the biggest compliment I can give him/her.
“Your spirit, your energy will never die.”
Thank you and R.I.P.
Yes, I’d rather look like a perfect idiot and be completely wrong. I can deal with that.
Daniel, what makes you think she passed away ?
@ Ann,
Q; Daniel, what makes you think she passed away ?
R; Although I think of myself as a rational individual, occasionally my gut feeling pops up with… how can I explain this… a hunch? Something completely irrational, because I can’t explain where that thought, based upon an evenly inexplicable feeling, comes from.
On the other hand, from a rational pov, KK is not the kind of person to suddenly disappear, without as much as a word or a goodbye. I think she knew the end was neigh and she didn’t want to bother anybody with that [indeed, very sad] news or, because of it, become a ‘burden’ to anyone.
It looks like what cats do; they disappear, never to be seen again.
Having said that, I really hope my gut feeling has let me down this time. I’d rather be the village idiot on this one, than being right.
But Daniel, cats don’t disappear never to be seen again. Two weeks after my cat passed from a rare feline wasting disease, she appeared to me in a vision, what they call a ‘visitation.’ In this very lucid, colorful vision, which I am positive was no ordinary dream, she appeared very healthy and brilliantly shining and luminous. She looked straight at me with her bright shining eyes and said telepathically, “I’m okay. I’m fine. Don’t worry about me.” Then the vision ended. The best part was how she demonstrated her sense of humor by unexpectedly appearing from her favorite hole in the bottom of the fence that she loved to use to go back and forth on her territory. People get these visitations from recently departed relatives and pets all the time. So if KK is truly gone, she is still out there, and she knows we are all thinking of her. Ann is right – light a candle for her. She will know.
I do hope she’s well. It’s a good idea to post here about you missing here. Anyone forgetting it, there are people behind the site.
Yes, KatKan was pure gold as a commenter, one of the very best. Very grateful for her contributions, here and other places I read her comments. I figured out she was the KK mod, although I never actually knew her gender until now. I’m pleased to read this personal praise of her. I hope she is in good spirits, whatever her situation, and that her diamond-like mind is clear.
“KK, on the other hand was always wanting to ‘convert’ the trolls, and spent many evenings writing replies to people who the readers here at Saker’s deemed trolls. They were defended as ‘newbies’.. I once said to her, ‘But they’re probably from the CIA !!??” KK doubted it, she thought it much more likely they were from FB.”
At the guardian I am called a putinbot. Guardian even runs articles on Putins troll factories.
Bush – you are either for us or against us.
With KK not around, please don’t allow this comment section to drop to the level of Bush and the Guardian.
I would guess a large percentage of people would fall into the in-between category that do not particularly trust MSM but have never put in the time to research what is happening in the world.
All the best to KK.
I too have missed KK.
There are many people who comment on this blog – all add value – but there are some whom I especially appreciate for their knowledge and input. KK was on high on my list of special contributors.
Best wishes KK.
Well written, @Babushka in Oz
I also miss Kat Kan, I sincerely hope she is healthy and doing well!
I hope she is OK.No one it seems knew she was so ill.Its sad,she should have let us all know.I would have wanted her to know we care about her.I like to consider here as not like the MSM,but a community of people that care about the World and want it to be protected.
dear Uncle Bob, you still can let her know, in your heart. I believe that even if she has died, she’s not gone..she’s just in a different dimension, and our hearts are very open to the spirits. They can read our hearts, as long as we don’t believe ‘they’re gone forever’. That is an obstacle for them I think. Light a candle, and say to her what you feel. All spirits can hear the prayers of our hearts.
Even though a communist, I believe in this myself.
Well said, Ann.
If somebody has ever lived, she/he lives forever in the intervall of her/his time (that’s for sure!).
Plus: maybe also in another dimension. Nobody knows.
Don’t despair Saker and rest of you on this blog, we just have to hope she will be back and try to find somebody who will help us to get the answer what happened to her.
Maybe she is in the hospital we always have to hope till last minute and wish her only the best.
Yes, I really miss her…I loved her challenges to Saker…she was a spit fire.
We were her everything.
Salam Dearest Sister KK,
We love you and wherever you are, PEACE (SALAM) is with you.
Sweet regards,
Mohamed
@ Mohamed
I told you already last week: Salam and Shalom are basicly the same word (because in semite languages the vowels are not written and the rest is only guessed, rather than read from right to left). For that reason maybe you might like to think about finding a better word? Only a proposal …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom
“”””” The word is also found in many other expressions and names. Its equivalent cognate in Arabic is salaam, sliem in Maltese, Shlama in Syriac-Assyrian and sälam in Ethiopian Semitic languages from the Proto-Semitic root Š-L-M.”””””
***Martin, Mohamed is redeeming this word. – mod
Salam brother Martin from S.E.B.,
When Muslims meet each other, they meet with Salam. And when they part each other, they part with Salam.
Did you read my response to you? If you haven’t, you should go back to the thread and read it. Anyhow, you are teaching an Arab and a Muslim, his own language and religion.
Yes, Salam and Shalom are same but in Arabic it has a higher meaning than in Hebrew. During the times of Jesus, Hebrew was a dead language, and therefore Jesus spoke Aramaic. Hebrew was resurrected from Arabic in 19th century. One of my Jewish friend always corrects me that Hebrew was not dead during the time of Jesus, it was dormant.
Dead or Dormant means the same thing.
Yes, the Old, old Arabic and Modern Arabic along with Hebrew is written without SHORT vowels. There are three long and three short vowels in Arabic, where as in English we have five vowels. Therefore, the same name in Arabic such as Mohammad, is written in many, many ways in English. The Porto-Semitic root for Mohammad is H-M-D.
Therefore, the TaNaKh (Old Testament) was never written in Hebrew in times of Jesus, it was just memorized by the Rabbis. WHY?
As you rightly said above and to quote you, “because in Semite languages the vowels are not written and the rest is only guessed”.
So, with the Holy Quran the Prophet Mohammad (saws) not only brought the Quran, but complete grammatical Arabic with SHORT vowels. This Arabic is called, Quranic (classical) Arabic. This is the Quranic Arabic, which is taught in Universities to the Arabic linguistic students, whatever their religion.
Yes, in 12th to 15th centuries, the SHORT vowels were added to TaNaKh (Old Testaments) in Hebrew. The Jews never write God with short vowel, they always write as G-d.
So let us put SHORT vowels in YHWH Elohim. What we get is, Ya’HuWaH Elohim. Guess what it means?
O’ He Elohim!
YHWH is not God’s name!
Salam,
Mohamed
Hi brother Mohamed,
thanks for your response(s) and explanation.
In fact I never saw your other response in the old thread.
Meanwhile I’m losing track of what is where. So much is happening here.
Was nothing against you.
It is simply that the word “Shalom” has something in it that usually instantly causes me to vomit.
Regards,
%martin
Peace Brother Martin,
I can understand your nausea and let be assured that Hebrew never been a language. It always stayed as a dialect of Arabic Language.
Ask any linguists who specialize in the Semitic dialects, and he/she will tell you the above.
The Yiddish being in the Holy Land is a myth and will always be a myth. As much as, they try to change the facts on the ground, the Arab History and the Arabic Language will always prevail over the myth, and Hebrew will always remain a dialect and not a language.
Best regards,
Mohamed
Salam Dearest Martin from S.E.B.,
It is in the New Testaments, in Matthew 10:12 and 10:13 :
New International Version:
As you enter the home, give it your greeting. If the home is deserving, let your peace (salam) rest on it; if it is not, let your peace (salam) return to you.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English:
And when you enter a household, invoke the peace (salam) of the household. And if that household is worthy, your blessing of peace (salam) will come upon it, but if not, your blessing of peace (salam) will return unto you.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-12.htm
and
http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-13.htm
Saker’s blog is His House, therefore when I enter His Blog, I enter with Salam.
Best regards,
Mohamed
Salam brother Martin from S.E.B,
There was no Yiddish People in the Middle East, in the Cradle of Civilization. They were all Arabs with varying Arabic dialects and with varying sects but similar religion. Hebrew never been a language, and it was the Greek/Roman who took the memorized “TaNaKh” by the Rabbis, Had these Rabbis translate the TaNaKh and call it the “Old Testament”. The Greek/Romans made it a new and powerful religion to control the masses. Thus, in the process they made “Chosen People” and the “Gyomn”
In Hebrew a plural is made by adding “im” at the end of noun, such as Eloh and Elohim. In Arabic, it a plural is made in twenty or so different ways, the strength of language. Therefore, quoting Wikipedia is useless.
The chapter 2 of Holy Quran is called, “Cow” and there is also in the same chapter the story of “Golden Calf”. It took Moses and Cow Worshiping People forty years from Egypt to find Palestine. Go figure!
The TaNaKh (Old Testament) is nothing but woven tales by different authors over a 2500 years period. Woven tales by the Rabbis with no written record, as the language at that time was not yet evolved.
Best regards,
Mohamed
Salam Dearest Brother Martin from S.E.B,
When a Muslim writes Prophet Jesus (as) or Prophet Moses (as), what does the Muslim mean by (as)?
He/she means by (as), Alehu Salam. On Him Salam.
Or Bibi Mary (as), Aleha Salam. On Her Salam.
In the word, “Salam”, the second vowel “a” is a LONG vowel and therefore Salam in English can be written as Salaam due to LONG vowel “a”, but in Arabic it stays the same word, سلام .
See the LONG vowel in سلام , with no SHORT vowel, the first vowel “a”. Therefore in English it could be written as slam, with no SHORT vowel.
Best regards,
Mohamed
Hi Mohammed,
thanks for the interesting infos.
Didn’t know most of it.
In my life it was simpler (but nevertheless very good): First I became a young pioneer (3rd school class).
Then in 5th class or so a Thaelmann-Pioneer. And in then a member of FDL (Komsomol).
And we were taught to be friendly and respectful whenever we saw adults
We greeted them in a friendly manner by saying “Good day!” or “Hello!”.
Учат в школе….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt0EyZcPjtg
Excellent Brother,
Here is one from Sami Yusuf, son of Yusuf Islam (Cats Steven):
Sami Yusuf – Salaam | World Tour 2012 – 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ6y1wsAzzM
And, Harris J – Salam Alaikum | Official Music Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_-McEvEGvI
Mohamed
No offence gentlemen, but I hope KK – wherever she is – laughed as hard as I did when this argument suddenly erupted on an otherwise sombre thread.
When I stop laughing, I will study the content, which is admittedly, very interesting.
Peace comrades :)
Peace eimar,
Martin thinks that Salaam is from Shalom, rather than other way around. He has got the history wrong due to Greek/Romans adapting the verbal woven tales told by the Rabbis and then these same Rabbis translating these tales into written Old Testament in Greek/Roman to control the masses. A new and powerful religion sprang up which took control of the masses and each and every word of written Old Testament was considered the Word of God. The concept of “Chosen People” and “Gyomn” was created.
Now Martin is fully consumed by these so called, “Chosen People”.
He fails to understand that these people were slaves in Egypt. These Cow Worshiping People didn’t have or knew the concept of One God (Monotheism). It took them forty years to reach from Egypt to Palestine and in these forty years these Cow Worshiping People, made the life of Moses very miserable. When I brought this to the attention of my Jewish friend, he said what you expect from people being into slavery for generations. He dare not accuse me of antisemitism, as he knew that I have not a bone in me that even hates any mankind.
In Palestine, in Levant, in Arabia, there were Arabs with varying sects but similar religion who believed in the concept of One God (Monotheism). These Arabs spoke varying dialects of Arabic. Now these Cow Worshiping came across people who believed in Monotheism and laughed at them for Worshiping Cows. So, these people had to adapt as their leaders started a new dialect of Arabic and called it Hebrew. These leaders called themselves Rabbis, and told their people that the dialect of Hebrew is for Rabbis only, and that they have to converse with each other in different dialect such as Aramaic.
From Cow Worshiping People they become believers of Monotheism, and their Rabbis started to wove verbal tales in Hebrew dialects. Today, the Power is with Christians and in one stroke these Christians can disown the Old Testament, thus doing away from the concept of “Chosen People”. Then and then Martin will not be obsessed with these people.
Martin should get his history correct!
Peace brother Marin,
Mohamed
> Martin thinks that Salaam is from Shalom,
Wrong, you should learn to read more precisely.
Here a repitition of what I had written:
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*
* I told you already last week: Salam and Shalom are basicly the same word (because in semite
* languages the vowels are not written and the rest is only guessed, rather than read from right to * left). For that reason maybe you might like to think about finding a better word? Only a proposal * …
*
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom
*
* “”””” The word is also found in many other expressions and names. Its equivalent cognate in
*
* Arabic is salaam, sliem in Maltese, Shlama in Syriac-Assyrian and sälam in Ethiopian Semitic
* languages from the Proto-Semitic root Š-L-M.”””””
*
*/
Listen, I’m not interested in theological studies.
From neither side!
I grew up in a time when we all thought(!) that these archaic times are finally over.
Hint: I had not claimed which of these languages or (as you say) non-languages created this word first versus which other language adopted aka “stole” it later.
And – while it was interesting to read some of your history lessons – I honestly care a damn sh#$%^ who created and used this word first.
All I said was that it is closely related to “shalom” and that this fact alone causes me to vomit.
Also: You call me dearest brother, we never met before and this was our first conversation on the first day. I don’t want to know how you call a woman in a chat room after 5 minutes.
Your Islam is a wonderful theory, but I know from my own painful experience how quickly this “salaam, my dearest brother” can turn into “you son of a bitch” and suddenly I helplessly laid on the ground (because I did not expect this) and your brother has almost beaten me to blindness, he kicked me with his feet brutally into my face.
Also I cannot tolerate it that you freaks are beating your women.
Do me the favour: Talk to somebody else.
I’m not interested in religions and all your stories from 2000 years ago.
BTW: The only thing I heard about it was, that your religion came 700 years later.
But *please* discuss this with other readers.
Not only in the linguistic and historical background but also in practical use your wonderful Salaam” can be directly compared to “Shalom”. Because it is not important to say the word “peace” 500 times per day, but rather, to live peacefully.
I have nothing special against Islam, other than it is a religion.
Open your eyes what these religions create on this world.
I do believe in God, but not in religions.
The true God is NATURE.
Religions are little more than tools to control the masses and start wars.
Religions were the predecessors of modern mainstream TV.
I hope I’m not hurting anybody with my point of view.
And if my views are considered harmful by a majority of readers here, I will move on to a Soviet forum or simply stop to comment.
well checking out Kat Kan on facebook-assuming it is the same person with a pic of desert mountains, there seems to be many -probably automatic-several links shared eg yesterday
“gems are sparkling everywhere…” is what I am going to synchronistically and heartfeltedly accept and
ignore the bingo bit with it
but last personal posting back in April……….
I wouldn’t be up front myself to contact her friends to check things out………..
I don’t have a facebook account so I can’t log in. I can only see favorites, which are Russian republic Crimea, We Support Ukrainian Antifascists, AntiMaidan, Ukrainian Defense News Network, Support the Peoples Republic of Donetsk, Russia Insider, …
I think this is Kat Kan’s page. It doesn’t have a picture of desert mountains but a picture of documents found on abandoned Ukranian dead.
https://www.facebook.com/people/Kat-Kan/100004809737872
After logging in I can see that her last activity (her last public post to her timeline) was on May 6th :-(
It is frightening :-(
No offence gentlemen, but I hope KK – wherever she is – laughed as hard as I did when this argument suddenly erupted on an otherwise sombre thread.
When I stop laughing, I will study the content, which is admittedly, very interesting.
Peace comrades :)
Dear Kat-Kan,
I hope you are doing well!
Here are two videos of a song for you. Although sung in Ukrainian language it is the best song I know of for such sad times.
Also: Irina Bilik also used to sing in Russian from time to time, and was also excellent in singing Russian/Soviet songs, such as here: Irina Bilik – Katiousha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT-Kg3CY8Es
As far as I know she was never affiliated with Maidan activities and otherwise has helped small children with donations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iryna_Bilyk
This said I think I can dedicate her following song to you, despite being performed in West-Russian aka “Ukrainian” language:
Ирина Билык – Одинокая / Irina Bilik – Lonely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIeYJdcEW7I
Ірина Білик – Одинокая, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMrgiFKR8Go
I think you will like this song, too.
Where ever you are.
I miss KK’s presence here a lot.