The attacks on the US military bases in Iraq are just the beginning. The retaliatory operation will continue throughout the region. This was stated by the Iranian military command. The successor to the killed General Suleimani, the new commander of the Al-Quds Special Forces, said that they weren’t going to turn off the planned path.
Saker Message:
I think Trump got the message. However, this does not apply to the neocons in the US, who don’t care about the message, using the US as their own proxy fighting force in order to instigate a globalist imperial policy. This fact makes the situation both volatile and dangerous.
Finally, the US terrorists are having consequences for their criminal deeds and arrogance. Praise God! It is SO about time!
Firstly, I would like to say that I do not wish to appear rude or disrespectful to the Saker or to his readership with this comment – but have you all actually been analysing this situation?
So far it appears that all analysis has been based upon media reports and official statements.
In extreme Geopolitical situations such as the confrontation between Iran and the US inside Iraq, what is UNREPORTED is just as important as what we are we are being ‘told’ about / ‘shown’ by the media (from all sides).
I have previously explicitly warned about the risk us all falling for the Propaganda and Psychological distraction techniques (collectively known as ‘Psyops) during this current round of Geopolitical crises.
The reason I make this somewhat forthright and potentially ‘flaming’ comment today is that it appears to me that even people of the calibre who write for (and read) this blog have missed what is right in front of them – revealed by omission in the media.
Through concentrating on the apparent / presented ‘facts’ as presented by controlled media and official sources (or obtained from sources basing their interpretations from data originally obtained from controlled and official sources) we continue to miss the great big proverbial ‘Elephant in the room’.
The ‘Elephant in the Room’ is the lack of analysis / discussion / commentary regarding the involvement of certain key players in the murder of General Soleimani (may he rest in peace) and subsequent actions / inactions and rhetoric from the ‘Militaries’ of the x2 major players in this – the US and Iran.
And no, I am not referring collectively to ‘Israel’ or ‘the Deepstate’, I am referring to the CIVILLIAN offensive arms of the US, the UK, and Israel.
Have you all worked out who / what the Elephant in the room’ is yet?
Then I will continue,
This CIVILLIAN offensive arm of the 3 state axis of evil – The Us, UK, and Israel, collectively form the body of this elephant.
They are the real big player(s) in this region, a player(s) so big, well funded, and powerful they can set up and co-ordinate terror groups, provide extensive logistical support to armed groups at the level of a state player (inc advanced coms & intel), vanish people (especially traffic people) without trace, operate above normal military and civilian laws, manipulate western (and eastern) media, and produce propaganda of the very highest order. Indeed, the propaganda produced by this elephant is of a type (and sophistication) so effective that very few can even recognise it, much less discuss it.
Have you worked out as to whom I am referring to?
Then I will continue,
This elephant / player(s) is just as well funded, and just as well equipped, as many state militaries, so much so that they even have their own air force (civilian transports, surveillance, helicopters, and armed drones) which enable them to fly ‘civilian’ combat missisions from US airbases throughout the region.
The American ‘Civilian Military’ has a budget drawn / split from the US military. Dont take my word for this bold claim, listen carefully (very carefully please) to the words from the mouth of President Obama no less, who in 2009 disclosed that the worlds largest military budget would now be shared by this group:
https://youtu.be/Tt2yGzHfy7s
Do you now get it?
This ‘civilian’ force does what the US / UK / Israeli military cannot (or will not) do!
Targeted assassinations and very (very!) sophisticated Psychological Operations are bread and butter for these groups – they actually advise the Military.
Everyone is told about what they do, but not necessarily in ways that will ‘compute’ with them whilst under their psyop influence. Even the highly controlled ‘mainstream media’ regularly releases data on the combat capability of this ‘civilian’ air force but few ‘get’ that this is all part of the psyop:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/17/the-cia-is-back-in-the-drone-business-trump-is-unshackling-americas-drones-thanks-to-obamas-weakness
Even the most asleep and uninformed of people are aware of:
CIA = Al-Qaida
MOSSAD = ISIL
MI6 = Syrian Rebels & White Helmets
The Americans even told people in advance they were going to be Propagandised and Psyoped in the run up to the war with Syria and Iran:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
I could go on but I hope it is now clear what / who is the elephant in the room very few have even mentioned, much less began to discuss.
I therefore ask the Saker and his readership to look again at statements such as no ‘MILITARY’ casualties and look again at the section of the bases the Iranians hit (especially those images that are NOT being circulated on the MSM and propaganda sites).
I ask that the locations of CIA / MOSSAD / MI6 facilities are discussed, what they are doing, and how they act in the region. These operations / facilities / personnel are often revealed by shining a light on ‘Civilian’ support, such as the use of ‘Private’, that is ‘Civilian’ Contractors. Even more important are the spooks hiding as contractors under names such as ‘Technical Advisors’ and such like.
Every US base in the region is INFESTED with CIA / MOSSAD / MI6 under whatever cover (sometimes non!) suits the situation.
No analysis / news report is fully accurate (or even valid) if the CIA / MOSSAD / MI6 presence and involvement in the region is not considered and discussed.
Also,
Fine details regarding the Ukrainian airlines crash in Iran, and especially the CIA / MOSSAD links to Canada (and Canadian passports) have gone unreported and mostly undisguised, to the point that I would now suggest that such talk and discussions are being suppressed.
By suppression I do not mean crude deletion or erasure but sophisticated psychological techniques.
Remember, suppression is best done in the individuals mind (such as by linking CIA / MOSSAD and Ukraine with ‘Conspiracy Theory’ and ‘Disrespect to those killed’ which prevent s rational and reasonable consideration of alternatives views and evidence).
I therefore strongly recommend that analysis is shifted away from the direction in which the mainstream media and governments (on all sides) are trying to steer the narrative (through propaganda and psyops) and TOWARDS the involvement of Intel Agancies (aka the ‘alphabets’) in the Middle East – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Pakistan in particular (and of course on the Soleimani murder as it is very possible a CIA drone, not a Pentagon drone as reported, was used).
Finally, as I have pointed out previously on this blog – PSYOPS are now in play which means that we are ALL being misled, we are ALL being lied, and we are all having our ability to think outside the parameters prescribed to us by our masters, in very sophisticated ways.
As I said at the beginning of this comment, I mean do disrespect with this comment. Indeed, by taking the time to write this and politely (I hope) point this out i am am actually showing considering resect and that I value the analysis and opinions of all here.
BUT,
I would be greatly remiss if I did not stress again that the modern Psyops being used against the masses in this matter have confused even otherwise intelligent and well informed people.
I have found it is often better to look again at what is NOT being said, and which groups are NOT being mentioned.
Peace to all.
The people you are referring to I call the invisible menace, you can not see them and even worse, there is not much that can be done about them.
That’s why they are called ‘secret services’. Very, very important in any war.
I did wonder about this, as someone on MoonofAlabama mentioned something similar. If that is the case, that the casualties were non military, then wouldn’t that be even more significant damage?
If you can’t read faces speculation is for naught. There was no chest thumping ‘we screwed the Iranians’ things got blowed up, big time, that it wasn’t US military is obvious, no bluster from the bluster boy himself. The drone storage command and control was what got hit…….hense the look of dumbfoundment on the US top brass faces. Besides, no one died, the CIA are not in Iraq and none of thier personel got killed…………right? All’s well.
You have a very good point here brother. No doubt, too much weight is put on MSM trash, from which we try to extract the truth, and as a result, become slowly immersed into nonsense narrative which goes in circles to infinity. Official army in today’s warfare indeed looks like “above the fold” government representatives, well dressed, innocent, fair, saving lives… but as we all know, it is all for show. Thank you for steering this conversation Ito right direction.
May God have mercy on us all.
Hassan,
Your point is very important.
Somebody stated a few years after WW1 that the first casualty in war is the truth.
Your comment brings that from abstract to a level asking to check the own information and conclusions drawn from there.
Whoever rules, they leak out pieces of information here and there.
One example from history is the date and time of the ceasefire in WW1: 11/11, at 11 AM
For freemasons 11 is a master number.
A while back a historian found ot that the assasins of Sarajevo who killed the archduke were all freemasons.
Making a connection between those events is for sure a conspiracy theory / sarc off.
Back to today: There is an Entity called the “Exchange Stabilisation Fund” with plenty of money and no government oversight.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEFVwCNYfc
They may be behind a lot of covert operations that are too illegal for official government agencies.
Agreed. There is much unsaid.
Maybe what Trump said is true.
And maybe what Iran said is true.
But only halftruth and coded language.
For instance when Trump said that he has intelligence of direct massive attack. Maybe he is correct. But maybe that was Soleimani own direct thteat to Trump with a some kind of deadline given for end of 2019 for US to leave the region.
2nd of january Trump ordered the kill as an answer.
Iran answered and made the yhreat official. US go home.
Or maybe that was all staged from tje start between Iran and the US govt.
Obviously the official narrative does not provide the full story.
Hassan; Thank you for a valuable insight to this conversation. For many years I have thought we have been struggling against an “empire”. Then on this site a moderator contradicted this assumption by pointing out we were not subjugated by an “empire”. What we have been in the habit of calling an “empire” is actually a Mafia. The difference between empire and mafia is note worthy. As I read it if the designation “mafia” is more precise and descriptive than “empire” then it stands to reason that the point you make cuts to the heart of the matter. A mafia thrives by secret manipulation from the dark underworld. It’s strength is to manipulate the mind of all participants from a realm that cannot be seen. Hence everywhere confusion abounds, and analysis becomes next to impossible. Hence their power. The epitome of hidden darkness where evil does thrive. Thank you for your necessary addition Hassan.
» look again at the section of the bases the Iranians hit (especially those images that are NOT being circulated on the MSM and propaganda sites) «
Could you please provide links to the images you have in mind?
» Remember, suppression is best done in the individuals mind (such as by linking CIA / MOSSAD and Ukraine with ‘Conspiracy Theory’ and ‘Disrespect to those killed’ which prevent s rational and reasonable consideration of alternatives views and evidence). «
» the modern Psyops being used against the masses in this matter have confused even otherwise intelligent and well informed people. «
Pertinent observations. Case in point: Saker and most of the commenters failed to notice that Azi America dealt Iran another blow by destroying the aircraft, probably via a cybernetic attack, either pre-flight upload of lethal software or in-flight radio link.
https://www.flyuia.com/de/en/news/2020/flight-ps752-passenger-list
Among the victims, there are two Ukrainians (Kobiuk, Malakhova) and a Swedish family of four (Lindberg, mother of Iranian descent). These are the six only names of European descent. If we further discount 7 Afghans, that leaves us with 154 Iranian victims. This is important in assessing who had a motive to murder the passengers by destroying the aircraft.
Uncle Sam is a globally operating terrorist, and many Azi Americans eagerly serve him … if not for fun, then definitely for profit.
And what was flight PS752? It was a Boeing 737.
I keep referring to MH370, but nobody wants to listen.
Boeing’s ‘Anti-terrorist’ system
From a John Croft article in Flight Global: In 2006, Boeing announced the following,
“Boeing last week received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all controls from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a predetermined landing location.
The “uninterruptible” autopilot would be activated – either by pilots, by onboard sensors or even remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.
Boeing says: “We are constantly studying ways we can enhance the safety, security and efficiency of the world’s airline fleet.”
There may not be any real link between the two, but the possibility that the CIA can hijack ‘any or every’ Boeing aircraft cannot be ignored, and the CIA loves to hide is collateral damage.
Tehran has now *confessed* that its military hit the aircraft with a missile, stating it was human error.
General Staff of Iran Armed Forces releases statement on Ukrainian plane crash – 2020-01-11
https://en.irna.ir/news/83628876/General-Staff-of-Iran-Armed-Forces-releases-statement-on-Ukrainian
» … flight 752 of Ukraine Airlines which had taken off from Imam Khomeini International Airport, moved very close to a sensitive military spot belonging to the IRGC forces when completing a loop. The altitude and the direction of the flight’s movement were like an enemy target, so the aircraft was targeted unintentionally due to human error … «
However, this statement is odd on multiple accounts.
Please consult open source flight data for reference:
Ukrainian flight PS752 crashes shortly after take off from Tehran – Update 2020-01-11
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/ukrainian-flight-ps752-crashes-shortly-after-take-off-from-tehran/
(1) Contrary to the General Staff’s statement, the aircraft did not perform any loop. It took off towards WNW, then executed a ~20° bend towards NW. Note: There is nothing unusual about this flight path. It falls flat within the gamut of paths taken by other flights earlier that very same morning, or in fact, at any given time when aircraft start towwards WNW.
(2) The General Staff stated that altitude and direction of the flight’s movement were like an enemy target. This is unadorned rubbish. The aircraft was gaining altitude as any aircraft does after take-off. In addition, see note above. Why does the General Staff’s statement contain patently obvious rubbish?
(3) The General Staff mentions a “sensitive military spot belonging to the IRGC forces” yet does not clarify this any further. Six flights took similar paths earlier that morning, two of them almost identical paths, so must as well have moved close to the alleged “sensitive military spot”, whose location and nature remain unspecified.
History is full of bizarre confessions. A confession alone is not conclusive proof, especially if it does not make sense.
Unfortunately, Azi America can make a credible threat to enforce an air traffic embargo on Iran to cut it off from international communications. Spineless vassals such as Germany will not dare to oppose such a move, even more so as they do not wish to jeopardize safety of their own aviation.
This is a blackmail and protection racket.
Germanwings 9525, 3/24/15, Airbus A320-211, French Alpes, “co-pilot suicide”
Metrojet/Kogalymavia 9268, 10/31/15 (Halloween), Airbus A321, Sinai, “most likely onboard explosive device”
FlyDubai 981, 3/19/16, Boeing 737-800, Rostov/Don, “aircraft configuration and pilot error”
UIA PS752, 1/7/20, Boeing 737-800, Tehran, “military action, human error”
I wrote: » Tehran has now *confessed* that its military hit the aircraft with a missile, stating it was human error. «
Correction: The Iranian statements I’ve read do not make any mention of a missile. I have conflated Azi American claims of a missile and the Iranian General Staff’s statement that the aircraft was *targeted* and President Rouhani’s statement of an “erroneous/mistaken shooting”. As far as I have seen, this has not been made more precise by the Iranian side.
https://en.irna.ir/news/83628933/Rouhani-Persons-who-caused-Ukraine-plane-crash-will-be-sued
Lumi, I wish other analysts read your comment and continue this discussion. You say sensible things, which I can only guess are correct – but I have no further klnowledge on this issue… . Some with more experience in this matter could extend the discussion. Perhaps THE SAKER can ask some of his experts to go further… PLEASE, do not stop here. Thanks.
great insights. I fully agree with you:
“…I therefore strongly recommend that analysis is shifted away from the direction in which the mainstream media and governments (on all sides) are trying to steer the narrative (through propaganda and psyops) and TOWARDS the involvement of Intel Agencies (aka the ‘alphabets’)..”
what you say here reminds me of the civil war in Yugoslavia (I was reading about while I lived London). I read all the official news every day and still nothing made any sense – it was not religious war at all – because we were not even religious in Yugoslavia, and we are pretty much the same people. Years past and I still did not get it.
Then one day I read an interview with a former CIA employee – and he explained in a couple of sentences what happened (he was involved – he is a famous guy that character from SYRIANA move played by Clooney is him). He basically said what you describe – the elephent in the room (CIA) – this particular guy was going around Yugoslavia telling Serbs that Croats were about to attack (which was a lie) and he did the same vice – versa and with Bosnians too.
This was the only explanation which made any sense to me – it was CIA. Nothing they mentioned in the news was relevant at all – reading that crap over years was 100% useless.
Hassan, many thanks. I was curious if the airliner that crashed in Iran was a Boeing product (737 Max) — the production line for that model is getting shut down shortly………
****Just “googled” the incident, the airliner was apparently another variant of the 737.
Now the story being pounded into our brains is that Iran “did” shoot the plane down, a plane with Iranian people on it. Silly question, but seriously, why exactly would Iran do that? ? ?
I wonder if the sun fails to rise tomorrow if Iran will be blamed for that also. Get ready for this! ~~ From now on whenever anything bad happens in the US, it will all be blamed on Iran. They got to get the people all whipped up. the war drums are sounding louder! ~~this senseless war with Iran apparently has “got” to happen! “Armageddon” has to happen! People are insane.
I am still praying to create a conspiracy of good to counter the evil. I’m looking at my odds of success. they’re actually about 50/50–you can figure out why. Part of the answer lies in what I call the “Gideon’s army ” strategy., the 3 percenters that can change history kind of stuff. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? What if it works?
You pointed out that it is very possible a CIA drone, not a Pentagon drone was used, in the assassination.I lean towards this because supposedly the Pentagon guys were against murdering Soleimani (?) True or false? Seems like the generals would be a little worried about a bulls eye being painted on them now. especially if they fail to go along with the plan…….did you see that look of horror on General Milley’s face??? What the flip, dude! This bothers me greatly because now the precedent has been set that it is perfectly “okay” for the rogue unelected CIA to start World War 3. ~~by the way, the drone used to kill General S. cost how much, and the “hellfire” missiles cost how much, and the control and support functions for this awful mission cost how much?…. the United States has gone to hell in a pickup truck….economically, socially, morally, spiritually, but they have the money for all of this insane destructive stuff. Trump has succeeded in dividing the country, I could write a book called The Great Abyss (it is far worse than just a great divide), and the people who think he is such a great guy will follow him straight into hell–problem is, they want to drag the rest of us with them. I denounce the evil war makers, from a holy place, and bind them on earth so they will be bound in Heaven. I renounce the karma that is theirs. Please read Pslam 91.
All is definitely not well.
Makes more sense, and the CIA-MOSSAD are one in same
Trump just took credit cuz he’s an idiot
Long ago, the CIA is the one who used drones first, so they’re the most advanced and expert
I’m certain that on the ground it was Mossad or Mossad assets at the airport that ‘lased’ the vehicles so that the drones could hit the exact target.
Soleimani wanted to be a martyr, called himself living-martyr, stronger now than alive; There are many to replace him
Everybody wins by this execution, its almost like Israel-China-Russia are all working together on a common goal.
One of Trumps first actions when he became POTUS was to turn all decisions over to MIL, because he didn’t want to be bothered by MIL decision making, so its complete BS that Trump was even in the loop.
@Hassan Carrim
Thank you.
You’re right, many of us know about the very civilian entities you wrote about, yet it insidiously just drifted away into the background. It would explain why at Benghazi, the US military would not intervene when CIA contractors and ambassador Stevens were being sodomized and killed by Salafist elements. It might also explain why the US military did not intercept the Iranian ballistic missiles that followed a predictable trajectory.
You are right, that our very base paradigm for analyzing these events has been steadily eroded and by not clearly seeing the model of the intelligence mafia (and their masters) that has usurped many of the functions of the standard military, we have handicapped our ability to see these events outside of the box.
It would explain many of contradictions in current events, where you see state department and CIA actions that are so harmful to the US military or US society – the criminal mafia doesn’t care, they have different loyalties and drivers.
Military version of the Gig Economy:)
None of us can be responsible for not noticing things which are invisible to us. I do not speak any language other than English, and like most other people have few other resources than that “media”.
Dipping into “alternate” sources of information puts any of us at the risk of being snookered by very professional people shilling for whoever is paying their wages. I can quickly “prove” climate change” is not real. Gold will soon be $10,000/oz. Russia is the most evil nation on the planet. And so on.
Your point about the growth of Mercenary Forces is well taken. It’s easy to forget this, and reminders like yours are useful. Your suggestion that some Mercenaries were on the US bases during the missile strikes seems unlikely – they’re not growing because they are suicidal or stupid.
Finally, regarding the downed 737, I believe it’s far too early to speculate.
Hassan, you might find this article by Israel Shamir exploring precisely the subject you raise interesting
https://www.unz.com/ishamir/do-spies-run-the-world/
Cheers
Thanks for this analysis & it is a good wake up to be reminded to go further than what’s fed to us.
Dug up this 2yr old report which intimates that actual troop strength is nearly double the official quote. That probably doesn’t even count the contracters, but likely covers non-combatants.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/30/550726/How-many-military-bases-US-has-in-Middle-East
“According to the Pentagon’s quarterly reports on US military personnel, the US has more than 5,000 troops stationed in Iraq. But the US government’s own data has shown that there are about 9,000 American troops in Iraq, about 4,000 more than the military has officially acknowledged.”
Bullying, Bribery, Blackmail, Bullets/Bombs and Betrayal. Great recipe for blowback.
The recent chain of events began with one Civilian Contractor killed.
We are all aware of PMCs+CIA+Mi6+Mossad.
You are at the Vineyard. Probably one of the very few top echelon Blogs, and its owner and leader is a military analyst. Nothing escapes us. There are thousands of minds around the globe that gather here.
Welcome, newbie.
“Nothing escapes us”
Really??
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/physics911pentagon.jpg
“Welcome, newbie”
A tad disrespectful I would argue.
http://telemarksporten.no/Tegneserier/DON_QUIXOTE_Self_Righteous.jpg
Regards
Kent
Yes, Larch, you are right. We are MANY thinking together (although, in my case, I have very limited knowledge of military strategies). Have you seen the comment by Lumi (above) on the case of the fall of the Ukrainian airplane? IMO, that discussion should go further.
E J Magnier has tweeted some relevant information this morning. It has become evident that the US will remain in Iraq and has already begun framing the narrative to suggest remaining there is in the interest of cooperating with the Iraqi people (despite the fact their representatives voted us out). The US embassy houses thousands of people dedicated to committing bribes, threats, etc; whatever is necessary to influence/corrupt the political process. Civil war is likely to create chaos which allows more justification to stay.
On the other hand, there will be blow back against US personnel which eventually will further divide the US population. Anti-war/occupation protesters will emerge and compete with establishment propaganda for public opinion.
On the bright side, the US certainly won’t launch an attack directly against Iran because of the military strength shown earlier in the week. The plan may be to strengthen anti-Shia opposition within Iraq and eventually export that into Iran. What the US cannot accomplish militarily will be farmed our to the proxy jihadists to accomplish. Don’t know how it will play out, but it’s clear to me it will take body bags to rouse the citizens.
The US, of course, will remain in Iraq. It is central to its hegemony. Easy to move the thousands of 82nd Airborne and Marines into Iraq when things go full civil war.
With the double decapitation of Resistance leaders in Iraq the militias will be at a disadvantage.
Larchmonter445 dear friend, respectfully, I will have to borrow the wise (or dumb) words from Barry, “HOLD ON! Hold On! Hold On!” :)
If the news is correct China has deposited 10billion into Iraq, then that means the fund mechanism is setup (despite the, well, let say the other voices and their opposition). That’s means China has acted differently this time and we have a new player in town – that is the new player can legitimately put toys in the region to protect their assets! That’s the new rule from here on… and the ppl of Iraq can get their normal life back and they no longer need to ‘protest’ and get a daily acting fee from some unknown foreign sources. That leaves, if the other invader wish to, the hardcore firework show. You and Saker would be better than me to share here with the readers how that can go.
We must also consider Aramco and take the Saudi into the picture. Yes they are animals, okie, okie, I get it, you are civilised human in the western world, yes sir/madam, but let’s put this cultural differences aside – China was, if we recall, oppose the Aramco deal because they clearly saw it and said in in public, its a ponzi and china would just throw money into the black hole of various ‘corruption’ and GET NOTHING BACK. China does not care about the black hole but they care about the second half. But as we know, the WS boys were already salivating like mad dogs, they are not going to let this one pass. So it happen, after many breakup and come back, flip and flop, and it was listed, china put some money in it, now for other purpose than return on capital. Saudi understood the msg from China and become more ‘unfrozen’, just a bit more and open up to the china reconstruction of ME project. Then ‘they’ came in and do their usual thing and the Saudi had to go around, perhaps like through and with Iran. Aramco’s ‘value’ today is way under their opening price, I believe. Didn’t take that long…. that also hint how the oily business should project forward, thus imply its ‘reserved instrument’. Ahem!
And many unreported things lead up to the assassination of the Iran general – a very pivotal point in the rest of human history, I seriously contend. I personally think, if the Iran would allow, even one of the 13 scenario to be made public, or even drafts of of it, ‘they’ would piss in their pants. I personally contend Iran ALONE can finish the job, without and for Rus and Chi and the world, but there are other calculations. That’s why nobody acted FORCEFULLY, until now. I would also contend, the waiting is also for 20.20 which was some special star chart line.
The ‘yardsale’ is my worst nightmare because I fear another paperclips. Damn those paperclips.
Closely rank with that is, to have a ‘yardsale’, we then must first have ‘War is coming home!’ Home to the warmongers. Rus and Chi has, if we observe, made sure WW does not happen on their turf, so the wars got redirected to ME (since Africa is already torn and Europe has their abundant ‘history channel’ made). I think the Iran general masterfully planned and executed ‘Return to Sender’ and he made sure it is NOT reversible, sealed by his own blood. He must have some powerful friends in the high heavens it seems. Let his soul be at peace and rest.
P/s china state sponsored news channel made 3-5 clips on the Iran general, calling him a ‘hero’. Read: the CCP basically (symbolically) gave him a state funeral in China. This time is (visibly) different. Plus BRI really need to extend to ME by now. We shall see.
?, as I read your comment, I could construct in my mind what you suggest that is really going on (‘if the news is correct…’) — it is plausible, logical. What you have construed, based on what we ‘know’ about the conflict, seems to be the description of a well-drawn strategy, which seems to explain why so far the sequence of occurrences seems so easily fall in the right place as in a puzzle. I wonder if the extraordinarily competent strategists in Russia, China and Iran are conducting this conflict to our advantage, despite our vulnerabilities.
The US (and British for that matter) have zero intention of leaving the middle east, gulf states. The pretence that its all about freedom and democracy has to some extent been dropped and now we see naked aggression purely to protect western oil assets (stolen illegally held assets) The US economy depends on access to the free or cheap oil it gets in the middle east. The fact that in Syria Trump didnt even persist with the anti terror narrative and just said ‘its about the oil’ and sent troops to protect the oil fields they have is a sign of what is to come. Repositioning of troops to surround and support the oil centers. Any success for Iran can only come from creating unification with other countries, I understand that Seulimani was in this process with Saudi Arabia when he was assassinated. The US will not tolerate its biggest ally and oil spigot negotiating with its biggest enemy. Factionalism rules the roost for the western forces, using the head chopping wahabis to cause friction and death.
The US will not leave until they are forced to by a unification of arabs and persians that cannot be denied. Even then they will wreak bloody havoc on their way out of the door. Either the status quo of the last 6 years will continue or there will be all hell to pay. It can’t really be any other way, the middle east must make the price of the US/UK staying so costly in lives that they cannot justify staying. However the fact that the west is relying on proxies it doesnt care about to bleed for them could also make this process long and drawn out. What do they care about muslims killing each other to protect oil assets? They don’t. Any cohesive strategy has to target the oil assets for better or worse. drones, missiles and irregular army attacks on oil fields. If the fields cannot function the US/UK will leave.
Anonymouse, you make some really compelling suggestions. Let’s see what happens next, so we can have an idea about the direction the conflict goes. All I can say is that WE MUST WIN for humanity’s sake.
One sign of preparing the “civil army” is the ominous allegation that the Iraqi parliaments decision is “not binding”, “merely symbolic” (Zero Hedge) and that it requires signing from the corrupt president of the country. This is going to be quite messy. So Hassan Carim’s comment is worth considering. We don’t know how the resistance axis is going to execute the coming campaign. I don’t feel that lots of dirty tricks will suffice to save the Empire now.
Maybe, as suggested by sean the leprechaun’s remark on Hassan Carim’s comment (above), many CIA, MOSSAD and MI6 agents died as a result of the Iranian bombing of the monstrous US embassy (although this was obviously hidden from us and thus not published by the MSM). In this case, the US/UK/isahell may have lost their most precious minds in that location and, for this reason, will need a heck of a time to replace them. This will give time for Iran to prepare for the next round of the war.
President Trump’s approach to diplomacy is innovative – and unique. No other leader would place an $80m price on his own head as a result of a perfidious murder of another country’s national hero engaged in a diplomatic mission which he had claimed to support. He has greatly increased his chances of meeting a violent death. Even after he leaves politics in five years time he will always be looking over his shoulder, wondering if all his guards love him more than they love money. Whenever he plays golf he will have to wonder whether the green will explode under him. If he takes a stroll, surrounded by guards, he will have to consider whether this will be the time when death falls on him out of the sky. Even if he visits one of his own hotels he must consider the risk that it might collapse around his ears.
People have already pointed out that Trump and his generals looked scared at his recent media appearance. Those men are probably calculating their retirement pay and their chances of living to enjoy much of it. No low level troops were killed, but vengeance may be coming to the men at the top.
@cynic, you think that was a scared look………..looked like they had stepped in dog poo, bare footed. Here’s my take, the Five Eyes and the Zio Spy guys share everything down to thier underware. They will piggy back along hiding under the Military, they have thier own gear and places on the bases. Speculation was that Zio Guy had hand in Solimeni’s murder. First casulty word was planes flying to the Apartheid State for group medical enemas. US has high quality med facilities closer than Apartheid State, worst case US soldiers go to Germany. Iran says it hit drone command and control centres. Whose ???? US says no US personel hit. If Iran hit Five Eye Spy Guy, that’s why Trump looked trumpted, can’t claim casualties, Five Eye Spy Guy doesn’t exsist. Dual citizen FESG will be burried, (the bits they can collect) in unmarked graves somewhere in Occupied Palestine
Great comment Sean!
I think you are onto it. This is the new model for US neocolonial warfare. To try to help control Mainsteet’s opposition to these adventures they try to minimize the number of US personnel arriving home in body bags. The deaths of their contractors and proxies are hidden because they are anonymous losses.
Nevertheless, the feckless Drumpf and his goon squad have had a major scare.
The Orange Dotard who completely irresponsibly gambled with humanity’s very survival in ordering this cowardly murder has obviously had a major scare. However, the way his mind works it will take him quite some time to process the situation and the enormous ongoing repercussions that will follow. Trump and his war council along with their families will never ever be safe even when they have left office.
It is interesting to hear his comment in the accompanying link re threatening Iran’s cultural sites.
He has obviously been sternly reprimanded for making this completely irresponsible threat. Of course, it goes without saying that this is the sort of behaviour habitually used by the US’s proxy armies/foreign legions/contractors…[call them what you will]. So it is a complete farce to give this pathetic attempt to distance themselves from this type of action.
Obviously somehow this idiot thinks that the world hasn’t cottoned on to the fact the US spawned, trained, supplied and then proceeded to pretend to fight ISIS and other lunatic terrorist groups. This is obviously why he continues to parrot this sort of contradictory jibberish such as in this interview.
Here is a quote of some of the incoherrant hypocritical nonsense he put forward…
“…according to various laws we are supposed to be very careful with their cultural heritage and you know what if that’s what the law says…I like to obey the law…but think of it, they kill our people, they blow up our people but we have to be very gentle with their cultural institutions…but I’m OK with it…its OK with me…but I will say this, if Iran does anything they shouldn’t they are gunna suffer the consequences…”
YCHMTSU
Col
and the link…
https://www.reuters.com/article/italy-banks-popolare-di-bari/italy-in-talks-with-eu-over-popolare-di-bari-bank-rescue-minister-idUSR1N2810BG
When anyone from the SAS or SBS has been involved in some malevolent scheme of MI6…and gets killed somewhere…you can read the obituary notices in the local newspapers in Gloucestershire to find out how many and on what date…
The State doesnt care about them but their families do…
cynic
You said…”Even after he leaves politics in five years time”
After this latest debacle, he could well be leaving much sooner than that!
Cheers
Col
MUCH sooner. Trump won a squeaker of an election where Democrats cheated massively in California and Republicans about everywhere else. His opponent was the most hated politician in recent memory.
If the next election actually happens, and if it is no more crooked than in 2016, Trump has no chance at all. None. His pose as a “populist” has been destroyed, and his expressed desires to end the foreign wars have been exposed as lies.
Finally, all but the dimmest of his “base” have become ashamed of his behavior. This last claim is a “gut feeling” of mine, but I believe it’s accurate.
If the US ends up with Second-Term Trump, President Biden, or President Buttigieg, we truly do deserve it!
Just a question – so might not the appropriate discussion.
However, I am just wondering: if USA has a 1st class military machinery how could it happen that drones could damage anything at their base.
Don’t they have appropriate machineries for early detection?
Forgive my simple question, but I have no military education and don’t understand anything about.
I am just wondering how this could happen.
Or were they so sure that nobody would dare to attack ? So they didn’t care at all?
“drones” were not involved in the attack. Ballistic missiles with rather good guidance systems were what the Iranians used. As for your question about radar, that’s still something people are wondering about.
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/01/the-strike-ttg.html
What we “saw” was a bit of play-acting by all concerned. Trump’s utter stupidity left the Iranians no choice at all but to respond. The Orange P(pea-brain)OTUS quickly realized he had a problem, and was quite relieved when the Iranians let him off easy. The very small attack by Iran was coupled with the promise that they were ready for a real fight got everyone off the hook – for a while.
This isn’t over, I suspect the next few weeks and months are going to be more than a bit scary.
to Zachary Smith:
Thank you for clarifying my not knowing of the difference between the military used machines/equipments etc.
I will have to educate a little bit in order not to stand so extremely uneducated while following on these unfortunate events.
Exactly what I was thinking. And no one in this great blog seemed to be discussing it. Don’t the USA have early detection military hardware like the Russian S-400 to prevent attacks like this? I think the US call it the Patriot system or something. Did the US just allowed the Iraqi attack to happen or their military hardware is just a bluffwhich may not exist or they exist but not function? Afterall, the US allegedly was aware of the attack 2 hours before it took place. A bit confusing to me I tell you!😉
Re:
Yeah, no duh! But try explaining that to the thick headed hurrah patriots in Trump’s base (and the even more stupid and morally bankrupt cheerleaders of Western Liberalism Jihad in Democratic party base). These morons live in a Hollywood created paradigm where everything depends on a single personality or hero (or anti hero). They are just too stupid to understand that no one is irreplaceable in a well crafted organization and system.
Of course, just out of pure self preservation, one would expect that the Iranian state would make sure that Suleimani would have several competent protégés and deputies. Suleimani’s successes would not have been made solely on his personal individual efforts during any operation, but rather on the system and organization he led and architected.
I can only imagine how frustrated a true American Patriot must be, within the US military and intelligence services, at the dangerous level of stupidity and groupthink that has become dominant amongst their establishment and strategists. They can’t even honestly state the facts amongst each other that this operation of assassinating an official Iranian general was a massive strategic miscalculation and failure. We are told that Soleimani was assassinated because he was midwifing a new security architecture that would create a detente between the Saudis and Iran – if the aforementioned is true, then I think that’s the real reason they did it, revenge for killing American serfs in uniform was a secondary consideration. (To the Washington establishment and their oligarch elite the enlisted ranks are nothing but expendable uniformed serfs).
Any thinking person would understand such a detente between the Sunni wahabbists and Shi’a Iran would only be temporary given the treacherous individualistic nature of the wahabbists, but it looks like US admin security-state people panicked and made a desperate move by killing the general to stop the detente.
A thinking cool headed American President, would not have taken the bait of approving this operation – simply because killing Soleimani would not stop the IRGC to continue his strategy. Unfortunately, the Orange Entitled Manchild in chief is ignorant, emotionally immature, petty and a sore ungraceful loser (all of these traits make him prone to manipulation).
One hopes a true patriot comes to power in the United States instead of the current crop of fake patriot leading contenders.
The attack on al Assad airbase was the US’s Suez Moment.
What remains now is to decide how to dismantle the Empire.
She’s an interesting correspondent – she seems brave. I hope she’s right – she seems confident in what she says. I want the US out of the region and I want Iran to have its revenge…even though its not ‘peaceful’
The US decision to occupy Iraq and reboot the civil war (ISIS) was taken well before the assassination. Trump is not in charge or plans such things. Trump just executed the order. Tel Aviv decided it must have another round of US occupation in Iraq to push on with it’s anti-Syria, anti-Iraq, anti-Iran Greater Israel policies. Netanyahu brags that he wants to create “3 more Israels” and he cannot do that without US muscle. War it is.
But it’s pointless and stupid by Iran to go toe to toe with the US in a conventional war or missile war; it will be an IED war again in Iraq, maybe this time with anti-armor TOWs blowing up US vehicles. Iraq just bought S-300 from Russia to gain control of it’s air space. Something the US obviously cannot accept. So this will escalate. US must reckon they control enough people to cause serious unrest in Iraq and that they can create enough instability to exploit to make the occupation work out for them.
The footage of one of the funeral cortèges in the background – has their been any funeral/memorial in recent decades with so many millions attending.
Perhaps it would make some of our.Mockingbird media brainwashed friends think twice to tell them Soleimani’s funeral eclipsed Churchill, JFK, MLK, Princess Di etc. in sheer numbers.
The guy was Iran’s national hero beyond compare. He networked the fight against ISIS/alQaeda in Lebanon Syria Iraq Afghanistan Iran and Yemen. Such a loss.
Like Churchill he was an enemy to some, and maybe like Churchill he engaged in some nefarious projects – but I think he was more universalist in his morality. Even if he was just like Churchill- he was a national hero.
What Trump, Pence, Pompeo are spouting are Orwellian lies and will piss off Shia, Christians and moderate Sunnis, atheists- anyone in the region opposed to ISIS/al-Qaeda.
He might have been a good guy, he also might have been a coke user who barely slept at night and was hell bent on getting his way. People can reach a mythical standing and yet no one really knows of their true intentions on the ground, we have had those type of people here in the U.S. and some have met the same fate.
[Mailman here. At last a reliable report on the complicated but apparently favourably evolving situation in _Libya_ a country devastated by NATZO and its Muslim Brotherhood proxies but now, with a little help from its friends (including Russia, Serbia and Egypt) beginning to join the Axis of Resistance and repel EU$A and UN invaders. Cut&Paste from today’s SyrPer].
Primipilares Canthama #307166
Lets start with GNA…the so called recognized Gov of Libya by the UN, which was not elected by the Libyans or the tribal leaders.
GNA is a Muslin Brotherhood regime, hard core islamists, the foundation fo today’s Al Qaeda (Nusra/HTS/…) in Syria and some of ISIS subgroups.
GNA is widely supported by Turkey and Qatar, but also is was backed by NATO for a long time, US included, which is interesting since it draw a direct line between NATO-Qatar-al Qaeda-ISIS subgroups. Italy headed the EU support big time, lately it got into some interesting political fight with France, thus splitting a bit the gang.
And this split between NATO was very important for Russia to come in.
The LNA, the Libyan National Army, does in fact represent the supposed Legally elected Libyan Gov, with HQ in Tobruk. The LNA managed to gather as many tribes as possible, and lately, due to imminent victory over GNA (weeks maybe?), more tribes and groups are either joining the LNA by supporting the Gov in Tobruk, or shifting sides sensing the end game is near.
LNA is widely supported by Egypt & UAE and partially by KSA, it took its time to rebuild some sort of a fighting force, basically from scratch from what was utterly destroyed by NATO and al Qaeda. There is ample evidence that UAE supplied several hardware to LNA, as well as Russia, Bielorussia or Serbia or any other country with technical capabilities to revise, maintain and fix USSR fighter jets (Mig 21, 23, 25, Mi35, Mi8 etc…). As time goes by, the LNA managed to defeat ISIS in Benghazi, and in few other areas, as well as al Qaeda affiliated groups in many areas.
Russia came in strong late in the game, and clearly there are hundreds if not thousands from Russian Wagner groups, that tip the balance to the LNA, battles became a daily stuff as winning.
Turkey got really desperate lately since the long Israel-Egypt-Cyprus-Greece pipeline was approved, signed and ready to be built, Turkey wants a piece of it, so Turkey started to freak out near Cyprus economic zone, thus bringing most of NATO countries against Turkey as well as the Egyptian Navy, then Turkey moved to the GNA and signed that funny agreement that links Turkey to Libya (thru the Med Sea, over all Economic zones form Greece and Greek Cyrpus), creating a mess in world’s diplomacy, as if not enough for this childish move, Turkey started to send well paid al Qaeda/Muslin Brotherhood terrorists from Syria to Libya, some few thousands were send (6 actually got killed in the past 24 hrs alone), and Turkey tried its biggest gamble, trying to get a reliable beachhead in northern Africa that would have border with Libya, tried Tunisia and got a no, then tried Algeria, got another no, thus bringing Turkey back to the square 1, no beachhead, they would rely on air shipments of al Qaeda and equipments by boat, then it comes LNA pseudo navy (what is left of…patrol boats) and Egyptian Navy to protect the Libyan shores, while LNA stepped up the attacks to all airports still under GNA, thus cutting off supplies to GNA and reducing its fighting power.
There are crimes from both sides, blood has been shed big time in Libya, but I can guarantee the GNA means bad business, as bad as the freaks in northern Syria, al Qaeda/MB/ISIS hardcore islamists, there are islamists within the LNA as well, but the vast majority are not, so my support goes fully to the LNA, hopefully the LNA will defeat, utterly, the MB/al Qaeda in Libya, locals and mercenaries so they do not go back to Syria, and once this is over, Libya can return to mend and internal unity that Gaddafi managed to have somehow for so long, and fix the broken stuff…society, infra structure, economy. I believe if the future Libya maintain close ties to Egypt, Algeria, Russia and China, then Libya will have a chance to glow once more. A concern is the southern border…wild desert and full of bandits and isolated gangsters, that will be Libya’s weakest point after al Qaeda/GNA is defeated.
Russia’s recent “deal” with Turkey is clearly a face saving for Turkey, the time is against Turkey and the LNA is about to defeat GNA…so Russia is once more extending a hand to Turkey, not sure what is behind this once more, maybe another slap on NATO etc…maybe a cutting deal on Syria, we will soon find out.
Sheikh Naeem Qassem the head of the Lebanese Hezb has pledged that Hassan Nasrallah the general secretary will avenge General Soleimani:
https://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13981022000501