Turkey Attacks Russia in Syria SITREP by Scott

The US has taken out entire nations for less insult than this. I would like to see Putin take out Turkey but he has way too much self control – and compassion for innocent civilians – to do such a thing. He appears to be the only leader on the entire world stage right now who is telling the truth and trying to do the right thing.

FWIW, here’s Fadel 24th he finally showed up after being away at a critical time:

http://syrianperspective.com/2015/11/aleppo-khan-toomaan-liberated-hundreds-of-nato-terrorists-killed-by-legitimate-allied-forces-as-syrian-army-continues-its-advance.html

ALEPPO: The situation has turned around completely in the north. It has become so dire for the terrorist rodents that Turkey has now begun opening up its guns at Russian warplanes flying in Syrian airspace. Moreover, that Turk-rat child molester, Khaalid Al-Khojaa, the so-called leader of the non-existent NACOSROF, based in Istanbul, has called on Nusra/Alqaeda to sever its ties to Al-Qaeda and join the “revolutionaries”. What a pathetic joke. Watch the developments carefully with talk now about a severing of relations between Turkey and Russia.

Thanks for getting this out so quickly Scott.

Regarding point 7, I am puzzled about how France fits into all this. They are fighting with the Russians, while Turkey is fighting against the Russians.

Is there a split in NATO?

To say “Turks” means to say double-crossing people, it is history. But the plane was shot under US orders: recently Turkey seems to have done a 360 rotation, annulling a previously agreed project with China, under the pretense of doing it domestically, and now the plane. Is Nato willing to start a war with Russia, yes they are since the Ukraine invasion, they are looking for a bigger escalation that Russia may not be able to contain. I hope president Putin keeps a cold head, and Syria announces they are going to shoot down any unwanted plane flying on their sky…it is international law for Syria too, isn’t it? And please, president Putin, do not trust France too much either!

Who was actually flying the Turkish jet? A Turkish national?

Who gave the order or did the pilot act independently?

And last – everyone boycott Turkish goods, especially Russians.

I am getting hot under the collar as I try to peer through this fog of war.

Diplomats scurry, war-rooms are abuzz, weapons merchants can hardly restrain their glee, bankers check their bunkers and Ziocons give each other high-fives.

In the meantime mothers weep and are wept over. I can only imagine the heart of a saker grieving over a mother when he learns of his comrades in arms gone down too.

And me, what do I do? Jump on the flag-waving, support our troops train before it leaves the planet earth space station?

Hell? No! I tell myself to calm down, get a grip, stick to my guns.

There is a cause of war and five agents of the main one. I train my sights on these rather than get caught in the headlights of white flashing guns, rockets and bombs with the really bright ones ready and waiting.

I can make a difference by doing what makes a difference. It’s clear by now that what we’re doing isn’t doing it. Mad Marx on the previous thread gives hope for a new balance of power but is that going to be any different in the long game? Power is unstable.

Love is the center that holds even if the wide world folds.

There are five causes that drive war under the iron fisted velvet glove of patriarchy. Few will care, particularly in the fever of war but they need to be stated anyway, even if in bumper sticker fashion:

1) Womam-hating (spelling intentional).

2) Meat-eating.

3) Pet-keeping.

4) Marriage-mongering.

5) Interest-taking.

It’s true so don’t expect it to make sense in a patriarchal brainwashed liar’s den.

It’s time for me to cut to the chase. I may fail to make the grade or spin out on the turn but I need to face my enemy and stop playing footsie with his fetishes. The vehicle with the five bumper stickers is The Love Government and here’s a quote from the same:

“Make no bones about it. Patriarchy is the terrorist master, the 9/11 mastermind and genocidal holocauster. Look no further for the cause of evil.” -thelovegovernment.com, step 49.

erdogan should be shitting in his pants for a food few years .. but he wont always be in power and when he isn’t, well, accidents happen.

PCR has a very succinct assessment of today’s latest outrage:

Turkey Has Destroyed Russia’s Hope Of Western Cooperation — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/

Not directly connected to today’s action,but let’s not forget that Brussels(Nato and EU headquarters city)is under state of emergency almost martial law(subway closed,schools,shops also closed,eventhouth they say they will reopen wednesday)BUT the Level 4 alert(imminent attack) stays valid until next monday at the very least.
Rumours are that a chemical(sarin?)attack is forseen….Even in Paris they did not close the subway,shops,schools for so long…

Connecting the dots:

Paris attack….(after Russian plane and Beyrouth attack).Too many links with Brussels(nato gladio patsies?)
Brussels in state of emergency,the city being like after a coup with military everywhere.

Then today we have Erdogan attack against Russia,with NATO full support.

Hollande visiting Obama with as always ”Assad must go and asap”,Russia must start to bomb DAESH and not ‘our’ moderate rebels…etc blablabla

Hollande met Cameron on monday and will meet Merkel tomorrow.

Final stage of ‘Hollande on tour’ being thursday in Moscow.

The Paris gladio psy op did well for the empire and Hollande is already back on tracks.No more attack will happen in Paris,be sure of that Hollande got the message from Washington…but in exchange don’t work with Putin,ever.

Expect more provocations in both Ukraine and Syria.

Thanks Scott.

The Russians are saying that the Turkish plane actually entered Syrian air space and shot the plane down. I trust the Russians on this.

https://www.rt.com/news/323329-russia-suspend-military-turkey/

Also Russia deploys missile cruiser off Syria coast, ordered to destroy any target posing danger so will have air defence over that area of Syria and if anyone enters it will be shot down/destroyed. So good luck Turkey and US entering Syrian airspace.

This whole thing stinks to the high heavens. 17 seconds is not sufficient to shoot down a plane which is not attacking you – how about all the times Turkey has violated Syrian air space and its allies? Due to this Syria has every right to shoot down any plane entering its air space too – now eat that Erdogan!

Turkey running to NATO – no apology etc. Well the Turkmen and FSA have just made themselves enemies of Russia – so good luck with calling them moderates………As usual the US not blaming their bitch Turkey and blaming Russia saying going after moderate opposition – so their fault. NATO of course standing with Turkey – telling everyone to stay calm and descalate. The US must have given the nod.

Rgds,

Veritas

It´s a strange coincidence that Qatari officials are involved in the downing of the russian tourist plane, and now Turkey shoots down a russian fighter jet.

They are the main parties of the Nabucco pipeline, that would send qatari gas to Europe, through Turkey, eliminating the european dependence on russian gas that goes through Ukraine.

It seems like the russians outsmarted the turkish, luring Erdogan into well planed trap. Putin is at least five steps ahead of its competition.

Hahaha, the west never learns that it should NEVER mess with the russians. Check!

This is between Turkey and Russia. Thank you, President Obama. You are a good president.

ERDOGAN 3 years ago

Earlier, Mr Erdogan spoke of Turkey’s “rage” at Syria’s decision to shoot down the F-4 Phantom last Friday and described Syria as a “clear and present threat”.

“A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack,” he said.

He said the Turkish jet had been on a training flight, testing Turkey’s radars in the eastern Mediterranean.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18598529

Everyone take a deep breath.

NATO is already at war with Russia, on multiple fronts. They are desperate to pull Turkey into a direct confrontation with Russia — because ISIS is disintegrating. They are using a ‘Turkmen’ militia to make life as difficult as possible for Erdogan but these forces are 100% NATO with almost no Syrian Turkmen within.

The Turks immediately contacted NATO, not because they wanted help but because they wanted to know what the HELL is going on.

I know it’s difficult to look past the media mirage but the Turkish military absolutely HATES Erdogan and has always been allied to Israel.

AKP Turkey does not want to help NATO create a Kurdish state on their southern border nor do they want war with Russia. The NATO controlled Turkish army does want war because this is their business and it is very profitable. Bilal Erdogan was a useful prop for them and he got very rich but notice the lack of response when his oil trucks began exploding.

Russia has cut the NATO ISIS artery and since NATO does not have an alternative source of funding they were desperate and needed to raise the stakes.

Finally and most importantly, ISIS and other NATO sponsered terrorist forces are bleeding to death and the crisis for the Stangelove-NATO-Gladio gang is getting worse by the second. When their Paris false flag failed to generate the necessary rallying behind NATO they moved to escalate further. Only NATO has an interest in provoking the bear but so far it is a complete and total failure.

Nothing has changed on the ground in northern Syria. Russia, Syria and Iran are still kicking terrorist butt so much so that Iran is withdrawing forces and redeploying them to Iraq.

Brace yourself. There will be further provocations from NATO because they have no other good options. Expect assasinations of politicians and possibly even attempted coup d’etats in the not too distant future.

And now for the worst part. I have absolutely no doubt that NATO has ‘loose’ nukes, say on container ships in NY harbour, which they will be willing to use, first to blackmail, then if all else fails, to enact long term plans for a complete takeover. This is no joke. They have been excercising the component parts of this strategy for decades, including so-called broken arrow operations, which are not attempts to prevent but to actually steal and make use of nuclear weapons against the wishes of political leaders.

Does anyone recall the mass arrests of US generals including sick f*ck David Patreus and the ousting of Hillary Clinton from State after Obama won re election? These things have been going on for a long time and we owe it to ourselves to be citizens of humanity and do everything we can to stop the NATO coup.

In Spain, some mayors of the new popular initiatives who took charge after the last municipal elections and other known characters from television, cinema, theater and culture promote the “Not In Our Name” initiative, signed a manifesto and call for demonstrations this Saturday in Madrid:

http://www.publico.es/politica/colau-gran-wyoming-kichi-y.html

http://www.publico.es/pages/manifiesto-noennuestronombre.html

No to the war!.
Not in my name!
All to Madrid!

Outrageous: US State Dept Response: Turkey and the rebels it backs northern Syria had the right to defend themselves against Russian airstrikes, State Department spokesman told reporters. The rebels reportedly killed one Russian pilot who ejected from the jet hit by a Turkish missile.
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During the regular press briefing, Mark Toner said the Syrian government did not have such a right, though.

When asked by RT’s Gayane Chichakyan if the State Department considered the rebels who reportedly killed the Russian pilots “moderates,” Toner replied:

“We’ve seen conflicting reports. One pilot may not have been killed. If these ‘Turkomen’ were actually being attacked by Russian strikes, they have every right to defend themselves.”

AP’s diplomatic correspondent Matt Lee asked a follow up question.

“Doesn’t that apply to everyone, not just rebels backed by West? Including the Assad regime?”

What the Assad regime was doing “is not self-defense,” Toner countered, arguing that the government in Damascus responded to “peaceful protests with four years of terror.”

When other reporters questioned his description of the Syrian conflict as a “peaceful protest,” Toner brushed them off by saying that “everyone in this room knows what happened.”

Toner repeated several times that Washington stood by Turkey as a NATO ally, and its “right to protect its sovereign airspace”, while refusing to comment on the specifics of this morning’s downing of a Russian jet because, by his admission, he had no details yet.

The State Department spokesman confirmed the US was supplying TOW missiles – seen in a video purportedly showing the rebels destroying a Russian search-and-rescue helicopter – to the “moderates” in northern Syria who were supposedly battling Islamic State forces.

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© الفرقة الاولى الساحليةFSA video claims Russian-made helicopter hit with US-made TOW missile near Su-24 crash site
Another revelation at the briefing on Tuesday was that the “de-confliction” mechanism established between the US and Russia last month to avoid clashes in the skies over Syria did not apply to any other members of the US-led coalition.

Asked by Chichakyan if the State Department would condemn the rebels’ use of US-supplied missiles against a Russian rescue helicopter, Toner replied that Syria was a “very complex environment.”

Repeating that Russia was supporting Assad and directing airstrikes against the “moderate Syrian opposition,” he said that this only increased the urgency to speed up the political transition, so that everyone could focus on fighting Islamic State https://www.rt.com/usa/323339-state-syria-russia-turkey/